The Daily Zeitgeist - Al PaTrendo 5/15: Pacino vs. DeNiro, LDS, Ja Morant, McDonald's, BuzzFeed

Episode Date: May 15, 2023

In this edition of Al PaTrendo, Jack and Miles discuss who's hotter: Young Pacino or Young DeNiro, the Mormon Church investment fund scam allegations, an update on the Ja Morant situation, McDonald's ...being found liable for dangerously hot nuggets, and BuzzFeed's list of traumatic scenes from kid friendly movies!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:47 Baby. Wow. Wow. Young De Niro vs. Young Petino. Petrino. Pacino. That's his name. Hey, I'm Jack.
Starting point is 00:02:00 That's Miles. We're the young versions of ourselves. And these are some of the things that are trending uh somebody just broke twitter who's hotter young al pacino or young robert de niro and i gotta say both answers have me uh salivating okay yeah i was gonna say it took you a second your your circuits were so fried by the heat and the pun is intended uh that was just coming off your screen yeah ashley reese at offbeat orbit asked a question that somehow got to this moment
Starting point is 00:02:39 a 50 50 split on a twitter poll with over 250,000 fucking votes cast. That's wild. She tweeted, at a wedding and having a big debate right now, please vote who was hotter, young Al or young Robert. Yes. And it's... I don't know what to say. Yeah. So she is like, yo, it's crazy to me that anybody would say De Niro, like young Al Pacino, was beautiful. Neither of these answers are crazy to me that anybody would say De Niro like young Al Pacino was beautiful um not neither of
Starting point is 00:03:07 these answers are crazy to me when you look at like that's what that's what I guess they're both mid to me yeah I mean I don't know I I feel like there's some photographs they both photograph extremely well I would say yeah I guess for me I'm not like i'm like oh between the time this to them they're kind of like it's like the pole i'm like yeah they're both about the same like i get that they were handsome young men like you know like most people in their youth they had their physical prime uh i think it's more just like how when super producer anna dropped this in our group thread i think what's more i think a better question is who's hotter now. That's more interesting.
Starting point is 00:03:49 There's more to go work with there. I mean, Al Pacino looks like at the various points you, you take the, you take the age, the young time period out when they're both hot. And then you kind of run through them as they age. And yeah, I mean, when they're both hot and then you kind of run through them as they age and yeah i mean i feel like de niro held on a little bit stronger pacino like went like for instance in heat right like
Starting point is 00:04:16 pacino kind of like he has that thing that like thing that happens to aging men where they kind of start looking like old women a little bit like they start looking a little bit like my grandma after she had her like hair done you know like oh like i came back sure okay yeah like that like you know puffy shirts with shoulder pads type like that's the vibe i'm getting from al pacino and heat yeah he definitely has like when like i remember like when my friend's mom who always had long hair did the thing as she got older and like chopped it off like you know like as i'm older i just want like to have a shorter do yeah the way pacino comes out with that like coiffed hair yeah he does feel like try and guess who's working this new short hairdo and it's me serving luke's sir um but they're both amazing in that i mean
Starting point is 00:05:09 pacino's performance in that is like prime screaming cajun man for for no apparent reason as super producer brian and i were talking about before it started like there's i think i learned this on the podcast action boys but like his whole idea for that character heading in and throughout production was that he was blitzed on cocaine the whole time i'm like yeah and he al pacino's character i don't even know that a major league coke problem and wow and that was like informing why he goes so big with every single speech. That's why I have no control over the cadence or intonation of how I speak. Cocaine. She got a great ass.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Okay, but Jack, latter day face off. Old Pacino or old De Niro? De Niro has aged into... This is like, for me, like deniro and my dad have aged very similarly so why like i see your dad yeah i i feel like deniro's aged well um and he he just looks too much like my dad to have for me to be impartial about how he looks. Pacino looks like, like he looks so out of sorts, like with his long hair and like way too many accessory, like wrist accessories and shit that he wears and scarves.
Starting point is 00:06:32 He always looks like he got dressed by accident. Yeah. Or he's like this old guy who's trying to make it out here in a younger person's world. And it's just so overwhelmed by everything that he's just, he just looks like chaos. Like if he feels like that tweet about Del Curry, you don't want to be out here.
Starting point is 00:06:47 You don't want to be out here. He just got spun around 20 times and stepped out of a wind tunnel every time you see him. He just looks unsure of what's going on. But then brings it with
Starting point is 00:07:03 the performances. I don't think I want to look like... Yeah, I don't even know what I'm... I think they were both very attractive young men. Al Pacino more conventionally and De Niro had more of a kind of different look
Starting point is 00:07:18 to him, which is where I think the people are kind of confused. Right, because now everyone just kind of like every you know like hat dude in a major city looks like serpico now right right so in that sense i guess he gave people an inspiration but they were famously competitive with one another and like you know had to be very delicately handled on set when they were in the same film and heat uh and i'm just curious if they're aware of this poll how many times have they voted how many times have they asked their friends to vote
Starting point is 00:07:52 uh you know where are they at marty marty how did you get on twitter vote for me baby who is this he calls he calls martin scorsese, even though De Niro is. I know. Rob has probably called you already. All right. There's a man by the name of David Nielsen who left Wall Street to work for charity for a Church of Latter-day Saints charity. Yeah. And him, a Mormon himself, was like, yeah, let me go.
Starting point is 00:08:24 So he worked for this charity and found out that itormon himself was like yeah yeah let me go so he worked for this charity and found out that it was basically being run like a hedge fund yeah they told people you know they they accepted people's tithings yeah the main source of the money is church and people don't know this is the fucked up practice in a church where they're like if you want god to fuck with you, okay, you better give me your money right now. And if you don't, I don't know what to say. And if you, there was a clip that was going viral recently of a pastor, a preacher who was like,
Starting point is 00:08:52 if a family is forced to decide between offering a tithing or pay for a meal, I would say, make sure you give to the church first. Because without that, there's no way to guarantee that you could have food on the other side without god's grace that's right cool so they took every they took tithings and made that into a fucking hedge fund yes the church collects an estimated 7 billion in contribution from its 17 million members annually wow and and they just basically he's saying that once the money goes in it don't come out they're right building a giant uh fund i love that it's like a non-profit they're
Starting point is 00:09:34 like it's a non-profit okay it's like yeah oh so it's charitable uh yeah yeah to like other business people really they're like oh so you you're not building churches or helping people spread the word? Not really. Because I like how this guy looked in. He's like, the only money going out is to other fucking businesses owned by the church or people associated with the church. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:58 So, yeah. I think if you could create a hedge fund that was able to grow its money tax-free, people would be on board with that. But yeah. So they're taking advantage of that little loophole that people love to use in the United States. It just breaks my heart when people of the cloth, religious people. You never see it coming. You never fucking see it coming you know never fucking see it coming that's what's so
Starting point is 00:10:26 so hard about living in this modern era or since time immemorial since people have been duping their parishioners but holy shit it's like such a finesse too like this guy was just like yeah no money like when they asked like when he asked people like if y'all not like if the money's not going out what is it for? It's like, it's a rainy day fund, all right? Yeah. But then the rainy days were like, his bosses share this document at a meeting that showed $1.4 billion from the fund went to a mall being built on land owned by the church.
Starting point is 00:10:59 And then $600 million was used to prop up a for-profit church-owned insurance company. It's glory to God. Yeah. Hey, we're going to find God. Make more money so you can make more money. Like Kiyosaki says, it's about the debt that I have. Look at that, because you got to have debt to make money. I do wonder how many of the church members, how many of them thought that are going to be mad at this?
Starting point is 00:11:25 thought that like are going to be mad at this like it's like when you find out that harvard has a endowment of like you know a small nation right you're like but isn't that is that what the people want who are giving the money they're like yeah now our endowment's bigger than yale's and so that's all that matters like is it just a dick measuring contest with other churches to be like, and we must be right because look at that. Look at that hedge fund. Cha Chingy. Call up Chingy because whatever. I forget.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Oh, because he's at the Holiday Inn. I was trying to remember a song by Chingy. Yeah. It's been too long. Yeah. Well, Miles, it's been way too long for us and Chingy. Yeah. Well, yeah. You know, he's banned from la radio fun fun radio fact you'll never you'll you will not hear chingy on la radio
Starting point is 00:12:11 just for behavioral problems not because he crossed radio stations with live shows and like all the programming directors like okay we're not gonna play your shit and then chingy disappeared from the radio in la wow yeah there you. There you go. On my new podcast. History of LA. History of Chingy. Battle for the airwaves. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Let's take a quick history of Chingy. History of Chingy. Deep dive history of all things Chingy. All things. Yep. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:15:00 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And I guess just update on the Ja Morant situation. You know, he... He has not learned a thing. Has not learned. He was on instagram live in the middle of the season with a gun like he was in a club on a team trip with a gun and they were
Starting point is 00:15:34 uh concerned and so he was suspended did a lot of like rehab in the public eye out of the public eye, out of the public eye. What are those rehab exercises like? Like he picks up a gun and like, now put it down. Ah, yes. Okay. You are not a gang member. You do not need a blammer on you, sir. Yes. Anyways, there was an Instagram live over the weekend where he was spotted with yet another blammer.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Yeah. The blammers don't quit no they don't and uh then it's funny because it wasn't on his live it was like his boys like ig because like i think at the time only 100 people were watching but there's a moment they're like rapping to this song and the guy's got the selfie video on he's like panning over to john moran sitting next to him and then like for one second john moran somehow he goes from not having a fucking gun in his hand to then the next time you see him he's like waving a pistol and it's a friend realized comedic sketch oh if like it felt like a simpsons bit about like a gun just appears in his hands we don't know how and the and his homeboy like tilts the camera down
Starting point is 00:16:42 real quick he's like oh shit that was in frame but then you can tell he's telling joe he's like yo i'm live or whatever put that shit away and then he slowly brings the camera up like from away from his chest so you can see the camera again and he's like bouncing his shoulders and like there's no gun anymore and you're like y'all it's they caught you in 4k already please stop with this please stop with the fucking gunplay in general like what the fuck like we don't have enough morbid shit going on with guns yeah like that i mean if he was smart he would tell people it was an airsoft gun right but that's why he doesn't hire me as his publicist right does seem like there's the opportunity here because the video quality was so low he could be
Starting point is 00:17:20 like it was a toy gun he's like he's like lying is probably not the but the the grizzlies have already suspended him yeah i guess like he could argue it's like it's like when people go from smoking cigarettes to vaping he's like i went from holding real guns to airsoft guns and eventually i'll hold a wooden just a thing that's like a wooden l that feels like a gun and then i won't have to hold one at all i'll be that's right yeah it's like a patch for poor memphis man they're fucking falling apart right now they went from being something really exciting to now just a whole lot of whole lot of problems yeah well mcdonald's lost that hot mcnugget lawsuit wait what so a child had nuggets spilled onto their lap. The nuggets were extremely hot. The four-year-old's leg was actually burned to the point that there's scarring.
Starting point is 00:18:11 So McDonald's was sued. A chicken McNugget? Yeah. So McDonald's is franchised out. So there's lots of opportunities for an you know an individual franchisee to have like a different you know policy or not some safety protocol in place so the nuggets come right out of the grease like into uh they just take the car no they take the basket and they just whip it at the customer fresh out of the fryer there's like not even a box it comes in wow that's so like wild to even
Starting point is 00:18:45 picture a mcnugget that fucking hot that it would burn yeah like the hottest thing i ever had was probably like when they used to fry the apple pies i remember as a kid like one time that shit fucked me up yeah i lost all of my taste on my tongue for my entire 13th year from one of those i remember that book you wrote things we lost in the fire. Yes. Uh, but I don't know. This is being raised as like, once again,
Starting point is 00:19:10 like McDonald's getting sued for stupid. Like you remember the coffee thing was like a big story. Yeah. And I remember at the time in the nineties, it was like, Oh, you're just trying to get one over. And then when you like actually read,
Starting point is 00:19:22 you're like, Holy shit. What? How? So just when in doubt you're probably the corporation the version that you're getting of like what happened with the corporation is not as bad as what actually happened right right right so just generally when the knee jerk is like let's make fun of this stupid four-year-old for letting himself disfigure their legs. Uh,
Starting point is 00:19:47 it's supposed to go in your mouth, not on your legs. Uh, like when that's your initial instinct, maybe take a beat. Maybe, maybe don't publish that podcast episode. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:19:58 exactly. Uh, that is actually why we had no episode on Friday. We did a whole episode just making a of... Shout out to Becca, Bay, Victor, Brian, Justin, Anna. Every one of the producers was like, you do not want to spend 45 minutes laughing at
Starting point is 00:20:13 this four-year-old's legs. McDonald's has never steered me wrong. Even though I lost all this taste on the side of my mouth. BuzzFeed closed the news division, but apparently they put all that brainpower into making their lists absolutely hit.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Yeah. Because there's a new one that is 19 non-horror movie scenes that scared and traumatized Gen Xers and millennials as kids. This is just like straight up down the middle. I'm sure I've read a version of this article five times before on buzzfeed but hey they weren't just repeating it lazily they were getting better because they um they nailed it with this or they i mean there are a handful on here that well i think they nailed it in that they basically trawled a subreddit for someone asking the question and then brought the answers here.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Which is all BuzzFeed is. Reddit is the front page of the internet and BuzzFeed is like, no, it's like actually we're the front page. Oh, yeah. I mean, Reddit, so much of the viral shit you see on Twitter starts on Reddit. And it's always funny when you see there's always people being like, you're just trawling like you're just trawling reddit and putting it on another platform anyway so that's what buzzfeed did anyway the people have read it they know what the fuck they're talking about because the very first one of scenes that
Starting point is 00:21:32 horrified the you know the first thing i thought of was the large marge sequence in peewee's big adventure that's number one on the list that is the first scene i can remember like being like thinking about weeks years after it happened and being facing have to do all that yeah it didn't i remember why you had to do that didn't
Starting point is 00:21:52 have to do that didn't have to do that you didn't have to do that my god why'd he go so hard yeah and i remember watching it last year uh like on my birthday because i was like you know what i'm gonna watch peewees. Like, let me just get back into it. That scene still, I was a little bit like I could feel my like heart rate. Cause I like in anticipation for that part.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Yeah. I was a big Superman head when I was a kid. And I think I brought this up. Like it just popped into my brain. I think one day while we were recording, but in Superman three, there's a part where a lady gets forcibly turned into a robot where just the weirdest.
Starting point is 00:22:30 And again, it is like stop motion. Like it feels like it's being done with practical effects in a, like I can still picture it. I don't think I've watched it in 35 years, but it has always been in the back of my mind. Like since I saw it as a child like it really fucked me up so that that's on their never-ending story when the horse drowns
Starting point is 00:22:52 in quicksand yeah that's that's sad you know actually fuck me a bambi when the mom gets got oh yeah that fucked me up bad and that's not even like really horror or anything i was just like the thought of like being abandoned by my mother i remember it was so potent as a child i was like oh my god i don't fucking hate bambi other good ones the et decontamination tent sequence that one was really sad i remember that it was sad but it didn't like like the the images from it didn't live in my brain no not like large march that shit is large yeah i could i could write that with my eyes closed and give you like a photo realistic sketch yeah and then a lot of people said that the uh temple of doom was really scary not because of its terrible racism but from the scene where they
Starting point is 00:23:35 ripped the guy's heart out yeah yeah i was i was always like yo this particle is fucking hard yeah that part was just cool to me. Yeah. And in like Pancop Palace, even like the monkey brain, I was never like even put off by that either. Yeah. Well, shout out to BuzzFeed again, just doing the best work out there
Starting point is 00:23:57 by stealing shit from Reddit. All right. Those are some of the things that are trending. Oh, yeah. This afternoon. Oh, yeah. We are back tomorrow with a last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. In California during the summer of 1975, within the span of 17 days and less than 90 miles, two women did something no other woman had done before,
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