The Daily Zeitgeist - Alex Jones vs Rubio, Kanye vs Drake: FIGHT! 9.6.18

Episode Date: September 6, 2018

In episode 226, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Bechdel Cast co-host Caitlin Durante to discuss Kanye's apology to Drake, updates from Brett Kavanaugh's senate confirmation hearing, the Marco Rubio and Alex Jones spat, how the Republican Party is shrinking, some more take aways from Bob Woodward's book 'Fear,' incumbent Mike Capuano being beat by a progressive, the new Nike commercial with Colin Kaepernick, racist robocalls hitting Florida, how super-environmentalists don't vote, John Kyl replacing John McCain, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. Kanye apologizes to Drake, bringing peace to the earth2. Brett Kavanaugh remains vague on Roe v. Wade, says loyalty is to Constitution -- live updates3. Marco Rubio Clashes With Alex Jones In Capitol: 'I'll Take Care Of You Myself'4. Kasich: ‘Our party is shrinking’5. A lot of Americans spent 2017 bailing on the Republican Party6. Data: Republican Party ID drops after Trump election7. Bob Woodward’s new book reveals a ‘nervous breakdown’ of Trump’s presidency8. 5 Takeaways From Bob Woodward’s Book on the Trump White House9. Ayanna Pressley Upsets Capuano in Massachusetts House Race10. Progressives Keep Making Pollsters Look Extremely Dumb11. WATCH: Nike - Dream Crazy12. Inside Twitter’s Long, Slow Struggle to Police Bad Actors13. Racist Robocalls Target Andrew Gillum, Democratic Nominee for Florida Governor14. White nationalist in Idaho using Iowa phone number to spread racist message about Mollie Tibbetts' death15. A ‘jaw-dropping’ 15 million super-environmentalists don’t vote in the midterms16. Arizona governor appoints ex-senator Jon Kyl to fill McCain’s seat17. Chicago Podcast Festival18. WATCH: E-40 - Carlos Rossi Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That is Marcy Klaygrom. Oh. Courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi-Maine. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Buddy, I still have to remember. Buddy, I danced in September. Buddy, I never was a Miles Gray. Thank you to Soltis Hanna. Hanna Soltis.

At Soltis Hanna with that AK. I feel like you broke me off with a couple good ones, Hanna. So thank you. You know, now I'm just waiting for, you know, the AK goddess, Chapman Rice, to show back up to bless me with some new AKAs. But shout out to everyone who's been holding it down, especially with a good earth, wind, and fire jam. And we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious comedian and one of the hosts of the great podcast on this year's Network, the Bechdelaitlin durante aka latin dancer uti oh but you got more oh aka got another one got another anagram a cat turd in line oh wow yeah that

makes sense i'm picturing a cat taking a crap in like a perfect line oh as opposed to like i've imagined people queuing up for something and there's a cat shit. Right. You're just like in line at the DMV and then you look down and there's a cat. And you're like, Oh, I'm sorry. Are you,

are you next? Should I go around? Okay. This is weird. We got another one. Uh, yes. This is courtesy of at Jace of spades.

Jace. Uh, sick name, bruh. Yeah. tin cadet urinal. Oh, I saw that one and I liked it. Yeah. Well done Jace. Sick name, bruh. Yeah. Tin Cadet Urinal. Oh, Tin Cadet Urinal. I saw that one and I liked it.

Yeah. Well done, Jace. I mean, Latin Dance UTI is the greatest one I've had in a long time. It's just never... It's never. That was Zach Sherwin, you said? Yes. That's so good.

So is a cat turd in line. Uh-huh. He's one of the greats. What a wizard. And so are you, and we're thrilled to get to know you a little bit better. But first, we're going to tell our listeners what we're going to be talking about today. We're going to be talking about the sort of friendship, bromance between Kanye and Drake that is unfolding on Twitter.

Frenemies. We're going to check in on the Hill where the Kavanaugh hearing is ongoing. And also Marco Rubio and Alex Jones almost got into a fist fight. It was very, very weird. Very like middle to high school, but definitely not post those things. So we'll talk a little bit about that dynamic. We're going to talk about the fact that fewer and fewer people are self-identifying as Republicans. And on the other side of the spectrum, a weird thing where environmentalists don't vote, apparently.

Like super environmentalists don't vote. We're going to talk about a 10-term incumbent, Mike Capuano, who lost in a primary shock to Ayanna Pressley. Got him. And we're also going to talk about John McCain's replacement, John Kyle, who- He's a great guy. Yeah, just all around super dude. He's a real maverick. Yeah, real-

The Mel Gibson movie. Yes. And more Mel Gibson on the set of the movie Maverick. Mel's a real cut up. He's a real card. Yeah. Oh, and it works for Maverick because it's about cards. Thank you.

So that was Miles' joke is what he was getting at. But also Mel does pranks. It's worth Googling like on set pranks from Mel Gibson because they're all just, like, really weird and mean-spirited. Right. He's like, the Holocaust didn't happen. You've been pranked. You've been Gibsoned. We're going to talk about the new Colin Kaepernick Nike ad and the fact that Jack Dorsey, the man who runs Twitter, is out here overruling staff decisions to deplatform Alex Jones.

Alex Jones, twofer for you guys today. And finally, we'll talk about a racist rebel call in Florida that is just bonkers crazy, like 1930s racism. But first, Latin Dancer UTI, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Latin Dancer UTI, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? I googled Hindenburg movie because I was just curious if that was even a thing. About the Hindenburg disaster? Yes. Okay.

And it turns out it is. It's a film from 1975. I haven't seen it, hadn't heard of it. But I keep thinking that like a James Cameron type should make a Hindenburg movie a la Titanic. Stanique. But only five minutes long. Or however long it takes for the Hindenburg to completely blow up. What did it do?

It hit a power line and just blew up because the gas inside was flammable or something? Was it hydrogen gas or something? I believe so, yeah. Was there a thing like it was the ship of dreams? Like Titanic? Well, I don't really even know. But I think they should establish like a two-hour love story. Right. Was there a thing like it was like the ship of dreams? Like Titanic? Well, I don't really even know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think they should establish like a two-hour love story.

Right. And then that plays out on screen. And then, I guess, five minutes of disaster. Right. The first time it's on the ground. And then he's like, okay, well, I'll see you in the next town. I'll wave you goodbye. Ah!

Bang. Hindenburg. There's really like incredible footage of the actual Hindenburg going up in flames, isn't there? Oh, yeah. There's a lot of photographs. There's a lot of photos. I remember I thought that was what Led Zeppelin was, the Hindenburg photo. I didn't know that that was a historical event because they used that image a lot.

And I was like, damn. And then when I found out, I was fucked up as a 13-year-old like wait what that I thought it was a logo but it turns out yeah New Jersey Manchester Township New Jersey yeah super producer Nick Stumpf is uh speaking into our ears and telling us that uh there was a potentially a live news broadcast that was taking place while the Hindenburg was coming in for a landing because not a lot happened back then. They were like, hey, a landing of this big balloon thing that has a name. And that is where we first heard the phrase, oh, the humanity.

Oh, wow. So he had that one locked and loaded. Holy calamity. Scream insanity. What is something you think is overrated, Caitlin? This is dumb, but... Wow. I'm gonna chum the waters before that one.

Just our show in general. Oh, shit. Okay. I guess hit me with the dumb shit. I hate olives. They're disgusting. Oh, fuck off. Come on. I'm just licking. I wasn't expecting that this was dumb. And he's like, I hate olives.

Okay. They're whack. They're dumb. All olives. Not just black. All olives. Wow, all olives. All olives.

Really? What do you mean? What do you not like about olives? They're disgusting. Holy shit. You sound like eight-year-old me eating a pizza. I know. Me too.

Yeah, I hated olives, and now I love them. See, I thought that might happen for me because there's a lot of foods I hated as a kid that I now appreciate and I just could never... Texture, flavor, too salty? It's mostly the flavor. It just tastes like sour toilet water.

I don't know. Oh my god, you've drank sour toilet water? Do you have a basis for comparison? I don't. I mean, they just taste like olives and olives are bad. Well, black olives, I feel like that was

the only olive flavor that I first had encountered as a child. And then once I started eating like spiced, seasoned olives, I was like, wait,

this is the fucking wave. Those like purple ones from Greece are so good. Kalamata? Kalamata. And then I like manzanilla from España. Wow. Yo, because those ones have like anchovies inside and yeah I know everybody cringes

do they grow that way? that's crazy these really horny fish they just impregnate an olive but no it's I've really come around to olives and I love dirty martinis that's all olive brine no thank you

what is something that's all olive brine no thank you no thank you okay fine what is something that's underrated anchovies as you can tell i have exquisite taste uh so i love cheap boxed wine oh wow which one you're really coming out as a cultural aesthetic uh just refined i love franzia franzia as say, yes. At the supper clubs that we go to together. I think it's just very cost effective. Oh, hell yeah. And environmentally friendly. I think, right?

Is the space bag shitty, polluted? I feel like it's worse than glass, though, because it's not as recyclable, question mark. But it uses less glass, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's better, because it is a bladder or space bag, as we called it. Yeah, it does feel like astronaut-ish. Yeah, because it almost looks like mylar where it's reflective. I don't know. Any wine conservationist people, people who know about that, let me know.

Is it considered bad form to suck the remainder out like it's a Capri Sun? How else would you drink it? Personally, I don't think so. I think it's good form. How else would you drink it? Personally, I don't think so. I think it's good form. How else would you drink it? Otherwise, it's going to waste. I've never, when I would, in college when we would drink it, I never drank it in the,

I pulled the space bag straight out the thing. Oh, really? And just carried it with you like a marathoner? Yes. Did you play Slap the Bag? No, I was, I mean, I know about it, but by the time that the culture of Slap the Bag made it, I was the OG Camelback guy where I would duct tape a fucking space bag to my chest. Now, slap the bag the same game that we used to play in eighth grade gym locker rooms?

No. No. Definitely not. All right. Oh, boy. Wait, what else? Didn't you say y'all was like 7-Eleven wine? Cheap wine is kind of your thing, right?

Yeah. I mean, I would never spend more than $10 on a bottle of wine 7-Eleven wine? Cheap wine is kind of your thing, right? Yeah, I mean, I would never spend more than $10 on a bottle of wine. Why should you? Right. I only know two kinds of wine.

Screw top or cork. Right. That's it. I don't even know if there's red or whatever the colors are. I used to drink a lot of Carlo Rossi.

Sure. I love the jug. The sangria jug. Shout out to Carlo. And then what else do they have at 7-Eleven? Kenwood or Kendall Jackson do they have that?

No. I know yellow too. I think Oakwood Bridge or one they have that at? No. I know Yellowtail. Oakwood Bridge or one of those. Barefoot. Yeah, yeah. All good stuff. Welcome to

High Society with Miles and Caitlin. We don't like olives but we like 7-Eleven wine. Have you ever just tried pop-off vodka? That's also very efficient. It only costs like

$2 per bottle. Wait, what's that? It's basically rubbing alcohol that you can drink. Oh, good. Yeah. Very bad. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false?

Speaking of being frugal and saving money, you might think that... Oh, I like this setup. I like it. I feel like I'm watching that. You're already cracking up, which is a great sign. I feel like I'm watching a YouTube instructional video. Hey gang, you might

think that you need to spend money on weights if you want to do weightlifting. Uh-huh. Okay. Yes, it's one of my main expenses. But Uh-huh. Okay. Yes. It's one of my main expenses. But the truth is... Is this a joke you're workshopping?

Are you workshopping material right now? No, this is just something I do. Okay, I'm sorry. So you might think that you got to spend money to lift money. Right. The truth is... Sp spend money to lift money. Right. The truth is. Spend money to lift money. What I do, you can do what I do.

And I lift weights by using a jug of laundry detergent. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's a good hack. That is a good hack. And look how built I am. Yeah. I was going to say, you look fucking winged.

Yeah. I'm swole. You got wings on the side. Yeah. You know, I remember like when I was 14, I would just fill up a suitcase with a bunch of books, and I would just press the fucking suitcase on the floor. Yeah. Yeah. You have to come up with wings.

You got to improvise. Yeah. My entire musculature is unbalanced because I always carried, back in my day, it was cool to carry your backpack only on one shoulder. I remember. And I carried, because I have really bad ADD, I would carry all my books with me because otherwise I'd lose them. Yep.

And so I just looked in the mirror one day and I had a huge trap on one side and nothing on the other side. Oh, really? For like a baby's back? Yeah. So undeveloped. A baby's back. It was really weird.

I used to carry all my books too, but that was because I hated going to my locker and I wanted all that time during nutrition to just fuck around. Yeah. Why, Miles? What would happen to you at your locker? Oh, man. They would just, you know,

make fun of my ED and stuff. Neither here nor there. Yeah, look. You knew what ED was? You're honest at one high school rally and then your life changes suddenly. I thought it was a safe space. Right.

Anyway. Yeah, high school pep rallies usually are. Yeah, but maybe I took a risk talking about my ED at the homecoming rally, but, you know, had to make it about me. All right. Well, that's a good hack. Thank you, Caitlin. You're welcome.

Oh, I'm sorry. What brand of detergent do you use? I'm very curious. Oh, I try to do like seventh generation. Oh, you keep it real hippy-dippy, crunchy. Yeah, I'm one of those environmentalists who doesn't vote. Oh, yeah, I try to do like seventh generation. Oh, you keep it real hippy-dippy, crunchy. Yeah, I'm one of those environmentalists who doesn't vote. Oh, yeah, I know. Because I was like, you know about Hillary?

You're like, who? All right, let's talk something important. Kanye is apologizing to Drake on Twitter. So there is sort of a conspiracy theory going around that the first disc on Scorpion or the first side A of Scorpion is all about how Drake had sex with Kim Kardashian. A lot of people are reading that into that because their lyrics, especially even on Sicko Mode on the Travis Scott album, he's talking about made a right, went down the block and then something, something. But like when you look at where they live in relation to each other he would have to go up the street and make it right to go to Kim Kardashian's house or other things like you know they use that he's friendly with the Kardashian family in general

key but I think are you with yeah that's her nickname then there are just other shots he was taking about like you know that he could always be talking to a hypothetical woman that he's courting but a lot of people were like I think people just want to read into this I don't know how much substance there is to that. Although I think Kim Kardashian or publicist came out like, that never happened. But one of the things that did make sense was like, you know,

we talked about the Pusha T and Drake back and forth beef that went on where, you know, Drake was basically vaporized by Pusha T's track, the Adidon one where it showed Drake in blackface and then talked about his unborn child. And you're hiding a child. You're hiding a child, which is a line we did not expect in 2018.

No. But the theory is that, you know, Drake was keeping this very secret, but he had been going to Wyoming to like help Kanye on some music. And people speculated that at that time he had let Kanye know what his plans were he's like I got my album coming out in June I'm probably gonna launch this line and like introduce my child to the world and blah blah blah and that's why everyone there people were scratching their heads as to why you know Pusha T came at him like that and a lot of people just said oh it's Kanye West you know suddenly Kanye dropped like 900 albums every week, like leading up to Drake's thing.

Right. And they're just like, oh, you sort of manipulated this information that you got from Drake to just sort of propel your projects or whatever. And so they were saying, that's why Scorby, he's taking a lot of shots at Kanye or whatever, being like, what the fuck was that about? I was just helping you. And then you help your other artists record a diss track about me. Right. then you help your other artists record a diss track about me right so kanye is on twitter and the day before he posted a photo of like a image from the migos drake tour and he said sending good energy and love to drake and family and crew i haven't seen the show in person but the images

look incredible online i understand where the confusion started and they're like what and then he says let me start by apologizing for stepping on your release date in the first place we were building a bond and working on music together, including squashing the issues with Cuddy at our office. When I put the dates up, I was a bit ramped up doing 25 tweets a day. TMC happened shortly after. I have to hop on the plane now. We'll type more when I land. Plane taxing for takeoff.

He's like describing this. Because we spoke about doing Lift Yourself Together. I should have given you the opportunity for us to do this together before I released it, which is interesting. He wanted to be on the whoop-diddy-scoop beat, which that was probably a better beat than Most Things On Ye. And then he said, since we were building as friends and brothers, I should have spoken to Pusha about the Quentin Miller bar.

That's the line that Pusha T says in Infrared that basically says that Quentin Miller's been ghostwriting for Drake, which kicked off the whole thing. And he said, there should have been no songs with my involvement that had any negative energy towards you. But he really did say, I did not have any conversations about your childhood with Pusha. Just, okay, I don't play with the idea of people's children after I spoke with Wiz a few years earlier. So he's probably denying it.

Amber Rose and Wiz Khalifa's kids. Yes, exactly. But I don't know what is going on. I think, but Kanye's kind of been on an apology tour recently, so this kind of fits into what's going on. I think, but Kanye's kind of been on an apology tour recently, so this kind of fits into what's going on. He's modulating between being just aggressive and then zen. It continues to ramp up

the mystery around what Drake's diss track was going to be, because Pusha, like you said, vaporized Drake, but then Drake was apparently planning his own diss track that came back at kanye and pusher that jay prince the mob from mob ties on drake's album just basically deaded and was like you can't put this out it'll harm too many people it'll

harm families it'll harm people's careers so other people like who had been in conversations around that track there was a quote that was pulled out saying, if this came out, Kanye would have jumped off a building or something. So who knows how messy that would have got. Right. But I think this is just Kanye being sensitive and living his life out loud. But it does seem to fuel speculation that Drake has something on Kanye or whatever. Yeah, that he's like, hey, hey, I'm being nice.

I'm being nice. I'm being nice. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. We're friends. We're friends. Don't flame me. And then his last tweet after this whole thread, he's like, this is all Jedi level. I will be coming to your show within the next seven days to give love and be inspired by

the art you have created. All right. Well. Thank God it's Jedi level. Yeah. You know? Because if it was Padawan level, oh boy. That means they're going to the mattresses.

Good to see those guys getting along. Yeah, yeah. Two insanely rich people who don't live in reality. Speaking of messy drama, a lot of shit is going on on Capitol Hill today. The Kavanaugh hearings are ongoing, getting pretty contentious. Getting pretty contentious. There was Pat Leahy implying that Kavanaugh was given hacked Democrat emails to prep for past hearings. Yeah. Well, so basically when Kavanaugh was working at the White House for Bush, you know, part of his duties was preparing Bush appointees, nominees to guide them through the judicial confirmation process. And he was saying, like, you know, part of it is trying to figure out what senators are going to ask during the hearings to kind of make sure everyone's prepared. But Pat Leahy was basically saying like, you worked with a dude who stole emails from me and you gave him, he gave you

information on like very specific pointed things I wanted to talk about. And you use that to like your advantage to kind of figure out however you're going to spin it. And there was like this whole very tense back and forth where like Brett Kavanaavanaugh was trying to play dumb but pat lahey like had documents in front of him was like is this email not from him talking about like with my email and then he's like well let me see and he like just took the paper extremely yeah like yeah like you could tell he was doing that thing where he was like okay what the brett what the fuck you want to say here he's like oh i'm cc'd here okay and pat lay he is so i mean he's also someone who is slipping into senility before our eyes like

watching him and chuck grassley go back and forth was very painful uh but yeah that was like a very painful moment there's another one where he was saying like did you know about these warrantless surveillance programs that the bush white house was going to engage in, like post 9-11. Right, the Patriot Act. Right. And he was saying like, oh, well, there are a few, I don't know, like in 2004, he said he knew nothing of it. And then Leahy played him a tape from like 2004 or 2006 or something. And then he was like, so at that time, you're saying that's when you found out about it? And he's like, yeah. And he's like, well, when did you start talking about these kinds of programs?

Was it maybe after 9-11? And he's like, oh, I don't know. And he looks at Chuck Grassley and he's like, well, the chairman has made some documents, basically committee confidential, but I believe if this were made public, this would jar your memory in a way that you would be able to answer me very clearly. And then Chuck Grassley was like, it was like this whole,

it literally was the sound of that whole thing. It got a little hot in there, but then Lindsey Graham. On the Republican side, what kind of questions are they asking? Well, you know, Pat Leahy's like, where'd you get these hacked emails? Blah, blah, blah.

And then Lindsey Graham's like, did you hug your kids last night? And what did you say? Kavanaugh specifically said, and this is important information, guys, that he gave his daughter a special hug. Yeah, or she gave him one. She gave him a special hug.

But they also keep asking him about 9-11. Like one Republican senator was like, what were you doing on 9-11? And then another was like, there was that fateful day when two planes struck the Twin Towers and one struck the Pentagon down here. Like it was like, yeah, no, we remember 9-11. You don't have to jog his memory. Well, they got to give him. It wasn't the Hindenburg race.

Which I also saw. But yeah, I think they had to give him that breathing space because after the Democrats grill him, although Dianne Feinstein could have gone a little bit harder, then they level it off by being like, and when you read To Kill a Mockingbird, you actually didn't say the N-word even in your head as you read it,

correct? Because that's how not racist you are. For some reason, he kept talking about to kill a mockingbird and how like woke he is. It was a strange thing. But again, this is all, it's all a, it's all theater. Right. And just to kind of make the stakes clear, because his background, he is very anti,

like Trump probably won't have to testify or, you know, be indicted if he is nominated. Right. Well, yeah, I think that's the other thing is he has a very generous view of executive power. Right. Basically like, yeah, when you're president, you're king of everything. So or but hiding under the idea of like, well, you can't be distracted. But this man can't even color the American flag correctly. And then apparently there was this case Roe v. Wade that people keep talking about.

You should have heard him basically give the Wikipedia answer to it. Because like Lindsey Graham was like, you know, Roe v. Wade. And he was just like, Roe v. Wade was a case of like, it was so odd. We're like, okay, we get it. You guys worked on this before. But yeah, there's a lot of issues that he would probably be a tie-breaking vote in the wrong direction, especially when you look at things like labor and reproductive rights and the like.

So meanwhile, across town or across the hallway, Marco Rubio and Alex Jones were on break from, was it the social media? Yeah, they were grilling Jack Dorsey and Google was supposed to be there, but they fucking ghosted. Google just didn't show up. That's how fucking powerful Google is. They're just like, eh, sorry. What do you want us to say? You're going to march us up there so you can be like,

your algorithm is shadow-banning the concert? Like, come on. You don't even know what shadow-banning is. Yes, so during this time, Marco Rubio was in the halls just talking to the press pool about what had gone on, and they were just talking about involvement. Alex Jones just pulls up into the frame and being like, hey, what do you think about this? China's doing the same thing.

And it's funny because the actual journalists from CNBC and the other outlets are literally their mouths are fucking wide open being like, what the fuck is who is this weird bearded dude? I mean, they probably knew it was him. There's been a lot of great background faces going on and on. Yeah, there was that woman yesterday during the Kavanaugh's statement where like it was clear she was like barely staying awake. Oh, it was painful. It looked like she was auditioning to be Stanley from The Office.

It was like the same kind of, like, sleep is imminent. But yeah, this thing, when Alex Jones kind of kept pressing, he was basically just trying to be Alex Jones and be really loud and talk over people. At one point, he put his hand on Marco Rubio's shoulder. Now, hey, bro, let me tell you something, brother. Touch a guy on the shoulder like that, even if it isn't a nice way. Marco Rubio, like, it took him a second. The thing is like, okay, do I have to G up this guy?

And then looks over and goes, please don't touch me again. I'm asking you nicely. And he's like, oh, what are you going to do? You're going to have me arrested? And he's like, I don't need the police. I will take care of it myself. And then he goes, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. He's going to beat me up.

You guys saw it? And then he just kept trying to bait him, being like, this guy's a little thug. And it was very, it was just odd. He kind of said it like, ooh, you're a little thug, aren't you? Yeah, he did say it a, this guy's a little thug. And it was very, it was just odd. He kind of said it like, ooh, you're a little thug, aren't you? Yeah, he did say it a little, yeah, a little sassy. Like he found it exciting or something. Yeah, but he really tried Marco Rubio, and then it was just him and other alt-right people

who had been deplatformed or had their precious blue check taken away on Twitter, like following Jack Dorsey around and screaming at him. And yeah, you know, 2018. You know, 2018 shit. Yeah, it was super cute, actually. It definitely felt very childish. Like, I don't know, Marco Rubio is like this guy

who's always just doing whatever other people want him to do or what he thinks other people want him to do. and it was like he finally was like ready to break i know it was don't touch me he did it in that like calm way like when someone else's parents scolds you yeah when they're like i would like you to stop that you know like because you know you can't you can't really yell at someone else's kid but you can be an adult and be like, you should knock that off. That's how Marco came off. Rubio also was claiming he didn't know who Alex Jones was. He was like, I don't know you, bro. Which is like

an insane claim to be like, I don't know who Alex Jones is. I don't know her. What's InfoWars? It's like he's the dude who was smearing you years ago, saying that he was getting with sex workers in the 90s miami or something it was a very odd exchange yeah but two uh you know two frightened men

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Really? They're not into the Republican Party? Yeah. Something happened over the last year where women have decided not to identify openly as Republicans. And white women in particular, seven points less likely to identify. Oh, than they had before? Yeah. Well, you know, they'd helped Trump out a lot.

Yeah, they really fucked up. I mean, we. Sorry. Us. Nah, it's cool. They. You a Latin dancer. Don't worry about that.

Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, you know, the fucking brand. You a Latin dancer. Don't worry about that. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, you know, the fucking brand is toxic as a brand. You know, there's nothing. You have to really do some mental gymnastics contortion to be able to look at what the state of the GOP is and say, yes, I am proud to be aligned with this. I think every policy I've seen speaks to me. And I think there clearly are those people because they have like a very tortured worldview. But I think for people who are like rational conservatives who had registered as Republicans, they're like, oh, man, like in the first couple months, it was easy to go to dinner parties. And now I'm like, oh, guys, I don't even I don't even know what I am anymore after this.

Yeah. How can you justify that? Like identity? Yeah. These days. Well, it's tough. Even like, you know, there are people in my orbit who I've had to release to the wild when I press them about who they voted for. And like, they get very defensive and it's never like, oh, let me tell you why I think

separating families is a good idea. It's like, well, it's not that bad or whatever. And you're like, oh, okay. So you're just on some denial shit. So, yeah. And this also ties into, you know, when you hear things like that, Trump has an approval rating of 89% among Republicans. It's not 89% across the board for, or I guess it is across the board for all Republicans, but it's worth noting that that is people left over in the Republican Party who haven't decided to just disengage from the party.

Jump ship. Yeah. Jump Hindenburg. Yeah. Well, there's a lot. There you go. I want this movie. OK.

You're bringing this remake. You are. Yeah. You're bringing blimp travel back. And I really appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah. I don't. It makes sense. I mean, I think John Kasich was saying something too about he

can tell the party's shrinking. And that's definitely clear when you look at how a lot of these elections have gone. Like the real established Republican power in a lot of places is dwindling very quickly. And I don't know if there's people that are choosing not to vote for the Republican or if they're voting the other way. But yeah, I mean, they're having a full-blown identity crisis on that side. So, Caitlin, you stopped identifying as a Republican in the last year, right? Oh, yeah. I would never. But before that, for sure.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. All right. So Fear by Woodward is... Just get that in there. Just wanted to get that. Yeah. I want to talk about Fear by Bob Woodward, the new book that's coming out next week.

Because we talked about some of the crazier revelations, but just overall, it seems like this is a portrait that kind of is completely in line with the Fire and Fury portrait of Trump as mentally incompetent, like not mentally all there and not smart enough to handle the job. He is unqualified in every imaginable, measurable way. Right. So there's a point where General Mattis was talking to him about why we need to be in South Korea, because if you remember during the North Korea talks he was just ready to fucking pull the whole yeah armed forces

apparatus out of there yeah and after like what one of the things is that we are able to find out about a North Korean missile attack seven seconds after it is launched instead of if we weren't there it would be 15 minutes and so after leaving that meeting where he was trying to explain this to Trump, James Mattis told associates that Trump acted like and had the understanding of a fifth or sixth grader. There's a detail we mentioned yesterday that Gary Cohn stole important documents about like trade deals. important documents about like trade deals and i think one of them was doing away with nafta like huge important initiatives that trump had like thrown out there during trump jazz sessions but cone stole the documents off his desk and trump just forgot about them um right which suggests like lacking object permanence oh whoa you're going there, huh? Yeah. Like a baby.

Like a baby. Like he would be entertained by peekaboo. Oh, maybe that's why he feels like stealth planes exist in the way he does. He's like, I don't know, have you seen this? John Kelly, show him how you disappear. And he just puts his hands on his face. Like, see, where'd he go? And now he's back.

He's one of America's greatest warriors. There's the detail that I think we mentioned yesterday that Dowd was basically saying, telling Trump, like, he should not go into an interview with Mueller because he would have a orange jumpsuit in his future. But there was also the appeal that Dowd made to Mueller. So apparently Jay Sekulow went to Mueller's office and reenacted the mock interview between where Trump's people played

Mueller. And then, you know, they tried to show him how it would go if he sat down with the interview with Mueller. And Sekulow was like doing an impression. And the goal was to argue that Trump couldn't possibly testify because he was incapable of standing up. He would just be so dumb and confused by the thing. And also the point they made to Mueller was that if the transcript of his interview leaked, and there's a good chance it would, that it would get out and foreign leaders would see how dumb our president was.

Yeah, we laughed about it yesterday when he was like from the quotes. But when you realize the argument was like, hey, please don't do it, because if people find out how dumb he is, it's going to be a problem for the country. And then there's the McCain thing, which I really like how New York Magazine described this. They said Trump also demeaned the wartime service of John McCain, stating, quote, that the former Navy pilot had been a coward for taking early release from a prisoner of war camp in Vietnam because of his father's military rank and leaving the others behind. This is, in fact, the opposite of the

truth. The whole point of what makes McCain's imprisonment so heroic is that North Vietnam offered to give him early release on account of his father's rank, believing it would demoralize other members of the military. And McCain refused, even withstanding torture, rather than give in to accept freedom. This is the most important and well-known fact about McCain, and Trump got it backwards. It's like attacking Harriet Tubman for her refusal to help escaped slaves. People do say that the only people he respects or will take direction from are generals because he like went to a military academy when he was a kid. So it's like the only form of authority that he knows and understands.

But it still seems based on all of these anecdotes that he's not that impressed with the ones that work for him, at least, or he's not that effective to have them work for him. Nah. He doesn't respect them. And he's on his own thing, you know? Yeah.

Based on all this information, I think I'm going to go back to identifying as a Republican. Yeah, welcome back. You really sold me on this. All right. Thank you. I figured as much.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So 10-term incumbent Mike Capuano of Massachusetts lost in the primary yesterday. Yeah. Was a huge upset. Again, this was Ayanna Pressley. Yeah. Who is in line to be the first African-American congressperson from Massachusetts. Yeah.

Which is incredible. Yeah. And she, you know, it's a little bit kind of different than the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez upset in that like Ayanna Pressley had a lot of establishment support too, like the state attorney general backed her and she was already on the city council, I think in Boston. But yeah, this is like another example of how bad the polling is, because she was always like at least 10 points back coming into this. And he conceded very early, like as the returns came in. And it's kind of amazing, too, because Mike Capuano isn't like Joe Crowley, who's like pure establishment, like dead center kind of dude. I mean, he would vote like that at times, but he was you could describe him as a kind of mostly progressive in terms of his voting record.

Yeah. And he even had John Lewis come down from the Congressional Black Caucus and address like a black congregation, like with him being like, hey, he's our guy. Like he gets it. He's always voted with us. He understands the struggle. There's no need to primary him because he's, you know, he's doing a good job. So please reconsider.

And that, I think some people were a little put off by that. Cause I think like people in the area probably viewed that as the establishment coming into at least block access for a woman of color to begin entering Congress when, you know, they even acknowledge that there is a representation issue in Congress, but they were like, you know, but maybe she can go to another district, but leave Mike Capuano here. But you know, you know, it shows you that there is this growing progressive caucus. There's just movement on the left that is getting bigger and people are having a hard time tracking it. It's just like the Trump shit, but the more progressive version.

Yeah. I wonder why it is that sort of populist movements don't show up in polls. Well, because usually they're tapping into new people, you know what I mean, who were usually not participating. And I think a lot of the polls that they were getting, it just seemed like, oh, he's comfortable. He's always won. And they weren't really taking into account that there are young people who maybe they didn't reach in their polling or that there are newly registered voters. Are they still using landlines? Is that where a lot of the polling comes from?

I think it all depends. I mean, yeah, it could be like that. It could be that they have focus groups. There are many ways to do it. But I think a lot of the polls that you see now are typically happening on the phone. happening on the phone. Right. Yeah.

And super producer Nick Stumpf was pointing out that a lot of these polls are informed by likely voter, like they're put through equations based on historically who participated, who voted. Yeah. And that's typically older white voters. Right. And if you're basing everything on historical precedent, then you're going to underestimate people who are now more likely to vote than they were in the past. Because yeah, like you said,

she was 10 points back in the polls and she won by 18 points. Right. Which is fucking crazy. Yeah, he had a 13 point lead in August. And then like some other polls, they saw that she had a lead with like younger people and minorities.

But they were still figuring into it. It's like, well, based on everything, like, yeah, a lot of people aren't going to vote. Or they might not come out in the same numbers. But I think of the same thing with Crowley too. Like, it could have been a lot of their supporters just felt that they had it in the bag. And they're like, oh, he's up by 13 points. Like, I'm not going to vote in this primary.

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I thought it was going to be like, because they have also like people with disabilities in the ad. And so I thought it was going to be like, don't just be the fastest thing or school or your country be the fastest. You can be like, you know, like a normal message, but instead it was like, be the fastest person ever.

Well, yeah, I mean, I get it. It's about the magic of believing. Right. Of course. So I say that flippantly and be like,

well, I don't like this, but yeah, I think it was pretty cool. I mean, there was a lot of moments where like, yeah, when you hear Colin Kaepernick's voice and all the footage that they have, you're always like, yeah, man, these are people trying to do something. Just do it.

I'll go buy this shit. Yeah. I mean, it's the culture wars. Nike put their foot in it and they made the right move. Yeah. But I mean, as we said yesterday, clearly a business decision, but a good business decision too. Yeah.

And I mean, the stock market went down, their stock price tumbled according to ABC News that I was listening to last night. Sometimes I just turn on this ABC News like streaming service channel just to like hear the most mainstream down the middle take. They were like, Nike, their stock price tumbles as they announced their Colin Kaepernick thing. But it only went down two points. And also, I don't think they're too worried

about what the white supremacists on Wall Street think about their company. I think they're more interested in what young progressive people who actually determine what trends are think of their company. I think they're more interested in like what young progressive people who actually determine what trends are think of their company. So I think they'll be alright. I think there was another thing I read that they're like young people who are buying

a lot of the Nike stock now. Yeah. So you know I guess I didn't realize the millennials are out here on the stock market. So that's our message. Millennials go buy Nike stock. Yeah go get involved in the casino economic. I was going to buy a pair of Nike shoes, but God, I guess I have to buy stock. No, you have to buy stock.

Oh, jeez. I don't know how the stock market works. Yeah, me either. Can I buy it? Is there a vending machine? Is it like Bitcoin? I don't know about this stuff. So I just buy the shoes. like Bitcoin? I don't know about this stuff. That's why I just buy the shoes.

But yeah, I don't know. It was funny to see the backlash grow on the internet too of more people burning their shit. And then I think Levi's just today was saying something how they're being like, oh, we're getting involved in the gun debate. Oh, really? Yeah, so

RIP those jeans. We think guns should be made of jeans. Yeah, exactly. Oh, really? Yeah, so RIP those jeans. We think guns should be made of jeans. Yeah, exactly. Ooh, nice. They're like, that's what that loop for. It isn't for a hammer. Or their jeans will be made of guns. Oh, shit. Okay, I like this. You never know what side they're gonna take. Yeah. Button fly.

The button fly is actually just flattened bullets. So, Jack Dorsey, like we said earlier, was onitol hill testifying and an interesting piece of information came out over the past couple days that twitter employees were basically pointing out the fact that uh alex jones should be at least suspended or there he is there's a drop there's our boy that he should basically be kicked off twitter and according to people familiar with the discussion jack dorsey overruled yeah overruled a lot of what you hear about this dude makes you suspicious that he's uh

that's that's his team yeah that he could have easily been carrying a tiki torch downtown Charlottesville. I think Twitter, right after they had their legal counsel put out a thing, they're like, that never happened, so forget that story. They really had to turn on the spin machine for that. Right. But it is a little odd because there are so many people on there where you're like, this person is only doing nonsense and just spreading hatred. I don't know why they need to be on there. Yeah. I don't even know why I'm on there where you're like this person is only doing nonsense and just spreading hatred I don't know why they need to be on there yeah I don't even know I'm on there because I'm a problematic racist it's just too much

effort speaking of problematic racists robocalls in Florida have gone out I we can't find the audio for them but the description of them is just bonkers so it's basically talking about Andrew Gillum and it basically it plays like jungle music and uses like horrifying stereotypes of black people and is from a white supremacist group that also was doing robocalls in Brooklyn, Iowa about the murder of Molly Tibbetts. So it's it's just a guy out there just being like, you know, I don't need all the credit. I just want to do God's work here

by sending out the worst, most hateful messages into the ether. Well, literally it says, well, hello there. It begins, I is Andrew Gillum. Like, what, really? We're going there with that dumb shit? Yeah. It's a new, I guess it's a new low

it really is it's it really it's the year of the low it reminds you of uh like if you ever read about 1920s like clan meetings and shit like it really sounds like that sort of dumb shit like rhetoric yeah yeah yeah well you know uh i mean andrew gill I think, is actually leading DeSantis in the polls, too. Yeah. And he raised like a million dollars the next day after the primary. So hopefully, you know, that'll hold a little bit because that would be a wonderful, wonderful victory, too. Yeah, that'd be huge. And I mean, this might be just going along with what we've been talking about earlier, that there are fewer people identifying as Republicans. So while Trump and the right might seem like they're very popular with the Republicans, it's a shrinking group of people. And then you have more progressive people who don't necessarily warrant your traditional voters in the past kind of

rising up and deciding to get involved yeah well this is the kind of shit too when you're like oh this is how the side that's opposed to andrew gillum is behaving and if you even are like registered to republican you're gonna look at that and be like jesus fucking christ like what is with this shit and even like the monkeying around comment that Ron DeSantis said too, it was just a bad, just bad looks all around. And credit to Andrew Gillum. He's just like, whatever, dude. We're going to win off the fucking, just off the merits of this campaign,

not pointing out this person's ignorance. When I was, I think this was probably like 2010 or so, I was living in Boston and I was playing on an intramural soccer team. And there was a guy on my team who was probably like 20 years older than me. And he's like, oh, you're one of those liberals. He's like, the older you get, you're going to get more conservative. You're going to be a Republican when you're older and you start making more money. And it was maybe the most offensive thing anyone's ever said to me.

Or that I felt most offended by. Because I've been called homophobic slurs and like all kinds of right right i was like that is for whatever reason you're like oh motherfucker i was like that is the worst thing anyone he's like no really he's like because i was like no i'm not i was like i would not do that i'm not going to change everything about my right ethos just because i and i and i haven't made any more money normally probably ever wait till you do and suddenly you got that maga hat fucking surgically attached to your head just because I, and I haven't made any more money, nor will I probably ever. Wait till you do, and suddenly you got that MAGA hat fucking surgically attached to your head.

Right, and I was just like, what? Oh, I just hate whoever that guy was. I don't remember his name, but he's wrong. Are you one of those liberals? All right, yeah, I guess so. It's like, you live in Massachusetts, bro. Like, what are you, like, Boston? I know, it's so funny.

Boston is such a funny town like that. I'd always heard that as a idea attributed to Winston Churchill. I think that anybody who is conservative when they're in their 20s is crazy, and anybody who's a liberal when they're in their 40s is also crazy, that everybody should make make that move and we wrote about that on cracked that that he never said that like that's insane he was always i love fake fucking quotes there's so many fake quotes that like i was just raised on that i was like oh well smart people think this and it's like no that's just made up bullshit yeah it's all snapple

right they were putting that under the caps. Yes. It's all fucking all mixed up. The Snapple conspiracy. One place that people on the left are focusing some of their energy is getting environmentalists to vote. Apparently this is harder than you would expect. It's this stat fucked me up. There's this group called the Environmental Voter Project, and they've basically identified that there's anywhere between around 15 million what they call super environmentalists who just don't fucking vote. So in 2014, in the midterms, there were 15.8 million super environmentalists who were registered but didn't vote. And then in the presidential election, some 10 million didn't vote. So midterms, we don't necessarily expect that many people to vote, but 10 million not voting.

Because you think of environmentalists as being politically involved. Yeah, well, I think there are some people, too, who just are more focused on how they're interacting with the environment and less looking at it from a policy standpoint where they're like, well, I have a hybrid. I don't use plastic. I'm a vegan. I'm doing my part. Yeah. And I think sometimes for whatever reason, they're less politically active, but they've been using like some straight up like sociology, psychology type tactics on these people, basically being like shaming them into voting because they're not trying to change their mind about

the issues because they're like, we're not going to win that battle at all, like trying to rhetorically get them to like vote or whatever, or be like, oh, this, you need to vote against this person or vote for this thing. They're more in the, in the idea of like, if we can just get people to start going to the polls, they'll probably in that act, begin to identify the candidates who actually are more in line with their beliefs as environmentalists and just do the right thing anyway. So what they do is like, they'll call and be like, did you know that on your block, 87% of your neighbors voted and we have on record that you didn't.

And they're just kind of being like, hey, we're shaming you into voting. Or just giving them that FOMO thing because we are social animals about being like, hey, everyone else is doing it and you're not. Care to explain? Yeah. I wonder how much of it is just them feeling like, ah, we already lost this one. You know? Yeah. I don't know. It could be a totally defeatist thing where, I mean, I wonder how much of it is just them feeling like, ah, we already lost this one. Yeah, I don't know. It could be a totally defeatist thing where, I mean, I don't know.

A lot of the environmentalists that I would meet, I guess it was different because it was always in a political context. But they were always very much on top of like policy and things like that. But when they describe this other kind of person who's just more sort of figuring out like, well, this is my piece to the puzzle of like pollution or carbon emissions and things like that. I have a few theories. Okay, go on. Sorry to interrupt. No, no, no.

One is that they're so hardcore environmentalists that they are so off the grid. They like live in yurts in the mountains or something and they just don't even know what's going on in the outside world. And they're just like living off the land. Or they're such hardcore environmentalists that they and they live too far away from their polling places and they're like

i'm not going to use any modes of transportation that use any sorts of fossil fuels so that they can't and then it's just too far away so they can't get there right on their recumbent bicycles because it's hard to tow your yurt around on your recumbent bicycle. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, but at the very least, these people are registered to vote and typically live in areas that are populated. So it's like, I think that's why it's hard for us to figure out because like, man, it must be people that just fucking live off the grid and they don't even know what year it is or whatever. Yeah. It's people who I think are probably just the apathy is a little bit too much to overcome.

It's people who I think are probably just the apathy is a little bit too much to overcome. So they began kind of doing a bit of an experiment and had like a control group where they weren't kind of trying to bombard with like the messaging of like, hey, you should get out and vote, get out and vote. And they measured a 12 percent rise in voting in their test group compared to a control group. So if like if you extrapolate that, that could mean like nearly two million more environmentalists voting. Yeah. I have a theory that they're too busy focused on my use of straws and my use of plastic bags at the grocery store and the fact that I drink bottled water and only take a sip out of each bottle and then throw it out my car window. Yeah. Well, the first sip's the best.

We all know that. Yeah, exactly. Like after that, it's like a lot of spit. Yeah, it's the best. We all know that. Yeah, exactly. Like, after that, it's, like, a lot of spit. Yeah, it's all spit. Yeah, so get off my back, guys, and focus on voting. Yeah. But also, though, to do all that stuff, you have to be pretty civically engaged because you have to get ordinances and, like, laws passed to begin banning those things. Yeah.

So maybe there's just, like, this group who just are, like, the hyper-engaged environmentalists who know how to do these things from like a legislative standpoint. And then like the people who just kind of rot, rot on and like, no, they got this. I don't know. If you're a super environmentalist who doesn't vote, please tell us why you are fucking up. Well, as a as both a long, lifelong Republican and a super environmentalist, I am one of these people. So I'll tell you what it is. Oh, fantastic.

No, I don't. I live off the grid. Are they like Green Party? Is that how they're registered? I don't know. Oh, yeah. No, I mean, it was outside of registration. They just knew that based on, I think, probably membership to other groups and just looking at that they are registered.

They're just not going to vote. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. So, yeah, work on it. Republican environmentalists. And finally, we do have a replacement for John McCain on the books. And it's bad. Yeah, it's bad. It's more of the same. Yeah, well, it had to be a Republican. Doug Ducey couldn't put a Democrat in there just to keep the party mat the same. I guess I'm not surprised that it's bad. party math the same. I guess I'm not surprised that it's bad. It's former Senator John Kyle. I'm not surprised that he's just like the worst,

but I am surprised how close they came to actually, you know, having a good candidate in there. Right. Right. Well, I think they just had to do right by the party and just be like, let's just get a Trump rubber stamp in there. Because I mean, John Kyle is not a fucking Maverick by any stretch of the imagination. And some of his greatest hits are one time on the floor of the Senate. He was like 99% of Planned Parenthood's businesses from abortion. And then people were like, no, it's 3% Mr.

Kyle. And then he was like, well, I wasn't saying that to be serious. Like he's had some really fucking whack response. It was something that fucking offensive that it was just like, well, I wasn't saying that to be serious. Like he's had some really fucking whack response. It was something that fucking offensive that it was just like, well, I didn't mean it. And I think he was kind of the first of, you know, he liked that little slippery brand of conservatism. And then he even called when Obama let the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy expired.

He described that as fucking class warfare. And he hated I mean, he fucking hate. He was a huge Obama critic. Class warfare against the upper class. Against the upper class, because how dare you, there would be no lower class without the upper class. That's true. Because we siphon all the wealth, making you lower class.

But yeah, he always was a huge Obama critic, hated the fucking Affordable Care Act. So, you know, if another repeal bill hits the Senate floor, I'm pretty sure we know how this man is going to vote. He's not going to be thumbs downing it. And yeah. Oh, and he's also pretty much a sealed Kavanaugh vote too, because he's been helping him, sherpa-ing him through the process. So there you have it. All right. Well, that's good news. So this appointment from Governor Ducey means that he'll be in the seat until 2020. And then

at that point, there will be a special election to actually fully let the voters decide who should replace him. And that I think that brings us kind of back to this other the story we were talking about before was that how Republicans are even toying with just even just straight up switching parties to win. And Grant Woods, who was the former chief of staff to john mccain like democrats have been kind of courting him to be like yo you should run as a democrat and he had thought of it so they've even mccain had thought about it didn't he yeah at a certain point yeah uh because he was so pissed

off after the 2000 election run up that he's just been disrespected by the party right he was like fuck this and at one point he was even talking about running with John Kerry, like on a truly mixed ticket. But yeah, it shows that there's all kinds of energy swirling around. Yeah. And wasn't his original pick for vice president Kerry's vice president pick? Lieberman? Lieberman, yeah. The one that he wanted for the 2008 election to run as his vice president was Lieberman.

And then his brain trust overruled him and was like, nah, we gotta bring this Palin stuff. Hey, look. Thank goodness. Hey, it's a black guy running, so we gotta... What's our minority card? Okay, this woman. Alaska. Hey, we're a fucking walk over here too,

y'all. Right. Caitlin, it's been a pleasure having you as always. Thank you so much for having me. Where can people find you, listen to you, see you, read you? You can follow me on Twitter at Caitlin Durante. Someone did create a Latin dancer UTI handle, so you can follow that as well if you want, but it was not me.

So you can listen to the Bechtelcast. And we have a live show coming up here in Los Angeles. If you live in the L.A. area, come check it out on September 15th at 9 p.m. We're going to be talking about Edward Scissorhands with Maggie Mae Fish. And it's going to be a hoot and a holler. Well, color me pink or tickle me, whatever that old phrase is. So, yeah, check us out on Twitter at Bechtelcast. And, yeah, listen to us and stuff.

Awesome. And is there a tweet that you've been enjoying? Oh, yeah. Let me pull it up here. I don't know if you folks know Comedian Faith Choice, but they tweeted, personal trainer, colon, what's your fitness goal? Me, plays video of cat jumping from the floor to the top of the refrigerator. That's some wild death jumping right there.

Flat footed. Cats can, I think, jump up to six times their length. So this has been Cat Facts with Caitlin. For any fans of Cat Facts with Caitlin, just so you know. You got another one? My main cat fact with Caitlin is that cats have eight nipples. They do? Yeah.

You can count all of them? Yeah, I mean, yeah. Eight nipples, nine lives. I felt like I had a male cat as a child, and I was like, I don't think this dude got nipples. We talked about this on the episode that you did of the Bechtel cast. Did we talk about this? Yeah. My nipples were so high. I was really, yo, I don't think this dude got nipples. We talked about this on the episode that you did of the Bechtel cast. Did we talk about this? Yeah.

Miles was so hot. I was really hot. Yeah. You were like, even boy cats? Yeah, because I was thinking of my cat. I was like, yo, where the fuck? I remember as a four-year-old, my mom was like,

what the fuck are you doing? I'm like, yo, I can't find the nipples, B. There's no nipples on here. Fantastic. Miles, where can people find you? Oh, you can find me just probably Googling male cat nipples. Uh, but if you're looking on Twitter and Instagram, I am at miles of gray, a tweet.

I'm like, I like a couple of tweets. One is because I brought up the Levi Strauss thing because there's a tweet from Amber Ruffin where she's quote tweeting a Hill article that says Levi Strauss teams up with gun control group. Quote, we cannot stand by silently. And Amber Ruffuffins quote is trump supporters finna be butt naked uh because yeah don't you need clothes guys and then the onion too because i just love dry fucking headlines two-faced house guest who didn't

need anything suddenly wants a glass of water and the photo is essentially like a very polite person like kind of has the face comes like it's like, actually, yeah, can I get a glass of water? Oh. Okay. Wow. Okay, before your low maintenance, I thought. Really? I just need a bed.

All right. I have a bunch of tweets that I've been enjoying. From one Caitlin Durante, I like, what if spelling bee stands for spelling bitch? I like, oh, so I tweeted over the weekend, holy shit,

Punch Up the Jam is so fucking good. You guys, have you guys heard that podcast? It's incredible. I'm familiar, yeah. I said we've had both. Demi and Miel.

Demi and Miel on Daily Zeitgeist and I feel retroactively weird. I didn't make a bigger deal about how amazing their show is because I hadn't heard it and now that I've heard it, it's amazing. Miel just responded, congrats, you played yourself.

Oh, wow. There you go. Strong response. Was it with DJ Khaled Giff, too? Or just the words? No, just the words, which I appreciated. And Your Mom Sucks, though, tweeted, I bet the guy who named the sperm whale wasn't allowed to name things anymore after that

and Swaim Corp Michael Swaim tweeted at least half of my panic attacks are triggered by not being able to find the thing I just fucking sat down five fucking seconds ago which is just that is my life and I identify did I say you can follow me on twitter

at Jack underscore O'Brien you did now I did now and you can follow us at Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien? You did now. I did now. And you can follow us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about today. We also post those in the information about the episode.

And another very special thing that you can find in the footnotes. Today is a link off to where you can buy tickets for our appearance at the Chicago Podfest December 1st. We are going to be just going

off, you guys. It's going to be a good time. December 1st, the night of, I'm assuming. Yeah, 7 p.m. I don't know what day it is. Chicago, a city in the Midwest, I'm told. It is a city in the state of Illinois. Is that how you say that?

Yeah. But at the Chicago Theater Works, 7 p.m. And tickets go on sale now, Friday. So we'll link off to that. Check it out. We'd love to meet you, Chicago. Please pull up. Please pull up.

I want to meet you. Yeah. I would love to meet you guys. Oh, we're going to bring the energy. It's going to be a lot of fun, you guys. Oh, this is just too great. We're already choreographing the dances. Miles.

Yes. What song are we riding out on? Well, I had a great song. But then Superdiger Nick Stumpf brought a song to my attention because we were talking a lot about Carlo Rossi. Yum. And to make this just a little more of an appropriate outro rather than a vibey ting, you know, we are going to go out on the E-40 Classic, Carlos Rossi. Because, you know, we have to respect Carlo. And the jug.

Yeah. So put your shoelace through that jug, put it over your shoulder, and go for a ride into the night. All right. We're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. We'll see you tomorrow. Bye. Bye. Top of the line

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If I get one with DUI then it's curving I can't call it, I guess I'm an alcoholic Sometimes I hit the chronic It's just like gin and tonic when it's time to get her riding $5.99 for a big ass bottle of Rossi Rhinus Right on time, once you become a member of my drinking club You will find, you will find The key to set you free, so give it a try

But don't mistake it for your bleep Unless you're already high Spread the work and strung and drink it with your damn cronies That's another word for some hot pot Just focus homies, feel motherfucking yeah We do this shit every other fucking day If not every day But anyway, I'm working

Focus, motherfuckers PULLS To the shoulders Everywhere I go People wants to know What's the name of that shit You and the clique You like to fuck with I can't sit on my hutch Cause brother I be purred Fuck it with some shit That will send you to the curb And if you with a bitch

Then nigga you nice The Russia goes good With some bank over ice Take us to the telly Let the rhyme fill our belly Fire up some smelly Then you jam it like jelly Bust a couple of nuts

Hit the button, then the grill Did it hard like I did time Up in Vacaville But still, I be bossy Fuck with some of that top-of-the-line wine Yeah, nigga, Carlos Rossi I'm a motherfuckin' crew Ray, you bring the chicken Cavio, you bring the links Mugsy, you bring the hamburger meat And I'll supply the drinks

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We're weighin' up Through the door comes Cavio Mugsy and Tappin' that ass Keep up weighin' up Through the door comes Kathy, yeah Bussy and tap that ass Keep up inhalin' my big ass niggas Like B-Legit and E-Beast The Ferrazzo and Matt Sean Matt D. shot his little shot The man behind the counter at the liquor store

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