The Daily Zeitgeist - All-time Clutch Moments with Dan Favale

Episode Date: August 25, 2022

Miles and Jack were pleased to be joined by the host of the Hardwood Knocks pod and an NBA writer for Bleacher Report, Dan Favale on the latest episode of Mad Boosties. The trio broke down their favor...ite clutch moments and players, the latest on the KD/Brooklyn saga and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:34 and we'll be discussing some all-time clutch moments and performers. Obviously, the latest with KD and the Nets, among many, many other things, with the hosts of Hardwood, Knox, and Bleacher Reports, Dan Favalli pulling up in the clutch. I'm Miles Gray. And I'm Jack O'Brien. And this is Miles and Jack on Madboosties.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Boom. Whoa, I think we killed it on that one. I feel very in sync on that one. Nailed it. Nailed it. Oh, man. Let's welcome our guest. Tampa Valley, you are a lifelong Knicks fan. Not lifelong Knicks fan, but lifelong Knicks fan.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Welcome to the show, Dan. Lifelong Knicks fan who said we would never make it to episode 21 of this show. Well, who's laughing now, Dan? Yeah. Exceeding expectations in the face of adversity and my criticism. The utmost adversity dan where are you coming to us from you uh you're out in new york oh yeah i'm based on long island new york so please don't hold that against me if you'd be so kind uh but a strong island
Starting point is 00:02:34 yeah i i honestly i hate it here i just it's expensive it's not really nice um if i didn't have like family ties i wouldn't be here right now. Got you, got you, got you. So does your family ties have something to do with your lifelong Nick's fandom? Or is that just, were you like grew up in a Nick's house? Or are you kind of the first of your kind in your home? So I grew up in a household where no one likes sports. But I had some extended family members that brought me into Nick's fandom.
Starting point is 00:03:04 But I had some extended family members that brought me into Knicks fandom. So I clearly don't talk to them anymore for the havoc that they've wreaked upon my life. But that's how I got into it. But the other people in my household were smarter. You seem like a young man. So when did you start being a Knicks fan? What was your era? My era was those late 90s Knicks. some of my fondest memories are like that 98
Starting point is 00:03:27 99 team that was the eighth seed and uh managed to get out of the east um but i'm like i remember watching it so young where i didn't understand the game or like percentages or anything and getting so mad that michael jordan would never miss like it was that type of like that's the age i was at and like that was a fun time to watch though because it felt like it was so unfair and the deck was always stacked against your team because he would just never miss it was like that kind of experience yeah that was the i think the fun part as a kid watching having no concept of how good he was i'm like and when he shoots it he makes it kind of like my mindset watching him like yeah and that just happened because that's it was the last dance was great for that for me
Starting point is 00:04:06 because I didn't understand what was happening in those later years, like all the drama behind the scenes. And to be able to see that was super cool. It made me think, they had social media back then. That team would have been the most polarizing thing that we've ever seen in the NBA. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. A lot of
Starting point is 00:04:22 haters. Yeah, just looking at the way lebron was was treated uh i just learned some of my good friends were lebron haters uh in the early days yeah not pointing any fingers look i'm salty because i also graduated class of 2003 and he said a very high bar for me i was like man i thought i would be the coolest person in 03 and meanwhile it's the one of the greatest athletes of all time that's so funny it's such a juvenile way of thinking though too you know you're like well who's in my grade lebron so i'm not saying i was a fully formed adult with that opinion i was a tiny tiny child uh based on who i thought i was but yeah i. I mean, yeah, I graduated in 99.
Starting point is 00:05:06 I couldn't believe he was already better than me. I was like, come on, man. This guy. Like this eighth grader is killing it anyway. But let's talk about what's happening. You know, I think the big news, Kevin Durant, the Brooklyn Nets, they agreed to remain together. Make this thing work this is why I was distracted before we started recording because we started having the conversation wait a second so
Starting point is 00:05:33 KD Kyrie you put four shooters around Ben Simmons which was always my dream as a Sixers fan in the early stages of the Ben Simmons experiment I don don't know, man. I started getting excited about Ben Simmons. I started looking up some 2018 articles about Ben Simmons. When he was winning Rookie of the Year and the Sixers were winning 16 in a row while Embiid was hurt, I was... Flying high. I was flying high. Nothing could stop us.
Starting point is 00:06:02 So I don't know. That excites me. The Nets are probably the team I root for the most after the Sixers just because I want to see them succeed.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I want to see KD succeed for the same reason I wanted to see LeBron succeed because... Because you like him. I like him. I like watching him play basketball is the thing.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Now what is it about him? Is it because he's so smooth? Dan, how do you feel about them? You think this is just something on paper, what is it about him? Is it because he's so smooth with it? Dan, how do you feel about them? You think this is just something on paper? You think there's some potential there? What are your feelings on it? Yeah, if they're going to stay together, their highest end outcome is win the title.
Starting point is 00:06:36 That team is talented, and this is the best defensive team just because Ben Simmons is there. They've put around during the KD era. I'm a little bit more worried about the offensive fit than anything aside from health that's combustible and everything but ben simmons is we've never really seen him set a ton of screens or do anything like in the dunker spot and if you're taking the ball out of his hands how are you going to use them and if you're
Starting point is 00:06:58 putting the ball in his hands like you are taking out of kyrie and kd's hands and they they are super malleable but i'm not a big supporter of anything that begins with well if you take the taking out of Kyrie and KD's hands, and they are super malleable, but I'm not a big supporter of anything that begins with, well, if you take the ball out of Kevin Durant or Kyrie Irving's hands. So I actually feel like offense is more complicated, even though, like you said, they do have a ton of shooting around Ben Simmons, which is what we've been waiting for
Starting point is 00:07:16 for over a half decade at this point. It feels like, I guess the best way I could frame it is they're the team, I could see them winning the title, but this also feels like it could be a play-in team and so they think they have like the most bizarre range of outcomes of any team in the league right now right because it feels like it is a lot hinges on a lot of things coming together it's like well if every single player plays like this warren comes out of you know playing like he was in the bubble then you're like oh man yeah yeah you got something i'm so i want to i want to see the
Starting point is 00:07:45 health reports on him because how did he get signed at the minimum i was like i would have just thrown a one-year bunch of money at him because he was so good in the bubble he was just absolutely tearing it up um so like that was a great flyer i'm also just skeptical and you guys can tell me if i'm an idiot here but katie's asking for steve nash and sean marks to get fired that's very public and then all of a sudden it's just super cool. And everyone's just still together. I just, I remain a little bit skeptical that this pans out for the entire year.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Yeah. I mean, that makes sense. You were, you were just asking about like, we've never really seen it for Ben Simmons. Watch that 16 game winning streak, my friend from his rookie season dial dial into those dialed in my friend.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I think I, for one uh you know i was counting on this trade to create a lot of movement of other players and see what's happening things would be very exciting uh i'm also curious now like with all the teams that were geared up to make a play for kevin durant what kind of permutations are we looking at now like yeah what what other things can we see probably donovan mitchell's the biggest thing that's moving yeah i'm wondering if the knicks will have like actual competition aside from themselves for his services just like if you were involved in the kd sweepstakes and i don't know that there are a ton of teams that would want donovan mitchell after missing on kitty but like the raptors or uh the heat if they're like they've been tangentially mentioned to donovan Mitchell, so do any of these other teams
Starting point is 00:09:06 try and up their offers for that, or does this still leak into the regular season? But I am expecting, Pat Bev kind of alluded to this on Twitter, the free agents that are left, I'm assuming we'll see a resolution of what's going on with Colin Sexton, unless the Cavs are waiting on a Mitchell deal. Maybe we'll see
Starting point is 00:09:22 something with Dennis Schroeder at this point. I think the biggest team to watch, or maybe the two biggest teams, is do the Suns maybe finally add someone else? And then the Lakers have been kind of sitting on this Kyrie that offered with Russ and two picks forever. Do they explore other avenues of trade?
Starting point is 00:09:37 I saw that they were mentioned that they were interested in reuniting with Dennis Schroeder. And so I do think the movement picks up here, but there's also probably the element of some of these teams might still be waiting to see where donovan mitchell lands too right there's like a potential pacers lakers deal is that a thing that could happen yeah um i feel like lakers fans make a lot of noise about like well there's complaints there's like some there's
Starting point is 00:10:00 some interest in russ and the russ contract and the. It's become the Russ contract at this point. That's in the business paper. It would be two first-round picks and Buddy Heald and Miles Turner. I know last season, a lot of people were like, we need Buddy Heald. We don't need Russ. Hindsight is 20-20. How's AD's health looking? What are we seeing from him this offseason?
Starting point is 00:10:25 That's my big question for the Lakers. It's the offseason. He gained 10 pounds of muscles, single-digit body fat at this point and is ready to go. We're in August, so that's got to be the status. Would you guys give up two first-round picks for that trade if you're the Lakers?
Starting point is 00:10:40 Because Lakers' Twitter is very much against it. They think Miles Turner's worth a good second-rounder at this point for some reason, which I don't understand. Yeah, it's just a lot of future to give up. It's hard to know. We're sticking with LeBron. What's our long-term plan? I'm really curious.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I know we're all about winning now, but the fallow years, I can definitely see those on the horizon. Truly fallow years. And I'm like, well, okay, that's our new reality. Yeah. I feel like something's got to change. I could talk myself into like, Miles Turner could be like a Wiggins-type reclamation project for the Lakers. And then suddenly the Lakers are looking good.
Starting point is 00:11:20 And AD, he comes back and he's healthy. This is why I love the off season as somebody who only looks at like the positive the only thing i root against in the nba is the haters which is part of the reason i root for like kd and kairi to like do so much like i'm rooting against the people who are like look at this clown like stuff like that. That's what I get most excited about, is seeing the haters disappointed when LeBron or KD or Kyrie actually succeeds. But that's what's great about this time of year, is everything's golden.
Starting point is 00:11:55 AD's in great shape. We don't need Miles Turner. We don't need to make a trade. We're just going to, as the Lakers, we can sit pat. I think we're sitting on some chips that people are undervaluing i mean it you know jabari you're bringing up a good point it's like if we really think ad and braun are going to be healthy then why not back that to its fullest extent yeah and
Starting point is 00:12:18 and just go pedal to the metal with it it's just everything can be a bit of a risk but i think at a certain point like yeah why put these pieces together not go for it i mean i definitely feel that there's part of me that does would be like all right fine yeah okay genie i see what you did there i know you said you absolutely didn't want to do that but i also see you saying like we need to win now i would trend towards that too and i mean like i guess that could be a callous distant way of looking at it but i'm just oh you have lebron and leBron is still like one of the five best players in basketball.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Like just do it. And you're going to have to worry about the fallout later. And I do think that like Turner, uh, I'm, I guess I'm like higher on him than consensus, but just his like rim protection and then floor spacing, pairing that with ad,
Starting point is 00:12:59 I think him alone would make the Lakers like if ad and LeBron are healthy, that inserts them into like a different tier in the West than they're in right now. Yeah. I think this imaginary deal is worth it for the Lakers to do. They should do it. Fantastic. All right,
Starting point is 00:13:15 let's take a quick break and we'll come right back to talk about some of the top clutch plays. Cause it is clutch week in the NBA. We'll be right back. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them.
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Starting point is 00:16:31 Back. And it's time to talk NBA Clutch Week. Great branding for LeBron's agency, but probably unintentional. Spelling is different. Yeah. It's stylish amongst the stat nerds to be like, there's no such thing as clutch players or momentum.
Starting point is 00:16:52 It actually equals out over time. That's my impression of a stat nerd. But I think that's simply not true. And let's give our top clutch players of all time. Guests first. Dan, how about you? This is such a cliche, but just what I was talking about to you guys at the top of this is Michael Jordan for me.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I don't remember from my youth when I was actually young at one time. I don't ever remember him missing. And I think one of the earliest memories I have of understanding basketball, what was happening, was his shot over Russell and like to have that type of moment and then to go back and look at and read about like all the other shots that he hit earlier in his career before I was understanding what was
Starting point is 00:17:34 actually going down there was just something about him where he just had that like it factor in those moments and I don't know that there's anyone else in NBA history I'd rather put the ball in the hands than just Michael Jordan. I don't care what rules we're talking about either. Today's rules, the rules back then, I think it would still be him for me. Yeah, I've heard of him. I need to go back and watch some tape. He's pretty good. Yeah, I'm going to watch this clip just to get familiar. You said this is over someone named Russell. What's his last name? Oh, Brian Russell. Oh, yes, this is coming up. Yes. Okay. Let me just check this okay so it looks like he stole it from someone named mal one now one oh malone okay number six michael against
Starting point is 00:18:12 russell 12 seconds 11 chance jordan oh my that is like that is one of just like the top plays yeah you know i mean and it's also putting together like one of the most clutch defensive plays of all time with one of the most clutch shots of all time from somebody who did it from the start of their career as a freshman in college to the end of their career that i acknowledge is the end of his run with the bulls. Jordan's a good one. I did not see that one coming. I'm not going to lie. Wow. I didn't want to go first. I wanted someone else to pick him
Starting point is 00:18:51 so I could get creative. I think a lot of people are going to expect me... I'm going to go second, by the way, Miles. A lot of people are going to expect me to say Robert Ori because I'm his best friend. Got our Robert Keith Ori.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I'm going to go LeBron James because have you guys heard of LeBron James? I've heard of him. Can I get a second to Google really quick? Yeah, one sec. Because coming into the league
Starting point is 00:19:23 everybody was mad at him for not always taking the big shot and sometimes passing it to a obscenely wide-open teammate while being mobbed by three people. And everyone was like, that's not how you do it. Like, look at Kobe.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Yeah, you gotta be tough. You gotta be the hero. And throughout his career was just a basketball computer that was incapable of making the wrong decision with the ball. But then once he got dominant enough at scoring, like he had that run like when he was going to the finals every year with the Cavs. There was that one Toronto series when he was going to the finals every year with the Cavs there was that
Starting point is 00:20:05 one Toronto series where he was just like you knew he was going to hit a game winner every time against the Raptors and it just didn't matter like he just he hit like step backs he hit one where he was just running out of bounds the opposite way off one foot, like fading away, like, and just banked it off. And it was really like a run that I feel like people just, because of branding, because when he was first coming in to the league,
Starting point is 00:20:34 he was not associated as like a hero ball type. He doesn't get brought up as much in these conversations, but I'm going to give it to my, you know, I'm not his best friend, but we're pretty tight. So I'm going to give it to him. Best friend adjacent? his best friend but we're pretty tight so i'm gonna give that's friend adjacent yeah my very good friend lebron james ah yeah well i'm a good friend and a loyal laker fan so i would there's only one person for me and that's
Starting point is 00:20:56 robert keith ory but there is something when i look at these clutch shots there's also something that i have a of good feeling about ray allen as well because i think about that corner three in game six of the 2013 finals the forced overtime and the manner in which he has to score like to get that shot off is i feel like the definition of clutch like are you so locked in that you're like scrambling to get your feet right your everything right and then you still get the shot off and make it there's something to me about that too that i'm like damn that feels like a truly like one of these just like things where you're like oh you had to go out of body to coordinate everything to get that done so out of loyalty respect robert keith ori honorable mention ray allen james catches puts up a three long go Allen.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Also got to give it up to Joe Johnson, who's not necessarily somebody who is on the same level as these folks but like did have an absurd run there for a while where he was just like get him the ball get out of his way mr iso what about block what about the defensive side clutch defense i mean that's another argument for lebron super producer jabari put together a list of biggest clutch blocks, and he's on here twice. One for a block I had forgotten, but when he blocked Splitter coming down the lane,
Starting point is 00:22:32 he came off of Kawhi and blocked Splitter violently. But then, of course, he has the most famous clutch block of all time, has chased down a biggie. But yeah, the Splitter dunk is just pretty dope great pass from parker okay so this is one of the great blocks you will ever see. Oh, my God. My wrist broke watching that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Yeah. It's like it was almost as if like if LeBron wasn't there, if you're able to like Photoshop him out, you'd think he tried to dunk on an invisible wall. Like he just all forward progress stops at LeBron. He's like, here it goes. No. We've had some pretty great chase downs of late, but like that chase down, it is at another level for like a defensive highlight that chase down block.
Starting point is 00:23:33 The whole 2016 finals like puts him on another level. Where did he come from? where did he come from you can watch a three-hour highlight film of him doing that to people throughout his career just coming out of nowhere you see him change his feet a little bit where he goes oh wait nope i have to readjust because i'm gonna take off for a block now best chase down blocker of all time it's really a shame it happened in those jerseys that moment. I know that's just not even kind of on topic, but be nice if it happened in not those jerseys.
Starting point is 00:24:11 That's such a good point. Yeah, people don't talk enough about how bad those jerseys were. The Cavs had some dope jerseys throughout their career, like those blue and orange ones. Those are sick. Those are tight. You don't like the kind of t-shirt one those are like i just don't know what i don't know what people were thinking about that
Starting point is 00:24:32 those were just they couldn't even like make them at least make them like creative in the design if you're gonna have them wear t-shirts but they were just so plain and hideous like that was just the christmas day do you remember those those Christmas Day uniforms too that year? That was just atrocious. Yeah. Less is more. Less is more, folks. We had a rough run there for a little while where the almost t-shirt was like a trend someone was chasing. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:56 What about you, Dan? Do you have a favorite clutch defensive play? Favorite clutch play? Or clutch shot. We didn't really dig in on clutch shot. Defensive play, favorite clutch play. Or clutch shot. We didn't really dig in on clutch shot.
Starting point is 00:25:07 If I'm allowed to go full homer for this, I think my favorite clutch shot of all time is either between LJ's four-point play against the Pacers or that Allen Houston shot on the heat where it bounces off the back rim and then drops in with.8 seconds left. Out of bounds. New York will get it, but only four seconds to shoot. And 4.5 left in the game. seconds left. I remember watching it hit the back rim like that going up, and my heart probably had to stop.
Starting point is 00:25:54 So it was two moments. Being the deadingly disenchanted Knicks fan that I am, those two stand out. Yeah. You were clinically dead for that little space. When I was young enough to still have hope. Right. That's what made it so exhilarating.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Is that the biggest four-point play, like, in terms of clutch? I feel like there's got to be another one. I feel like Jamal Crawford has to have one of them, right? Yeah, yeah. He was an artist of it. But, like, that was at a time when I feel like four-point plays were, it was like a triple play in baseball. It was like it never happened, you know?
Starting point is 00:26:23 And now, like now people feel like there are the four-point play artists who figured out how to draw the foul and get it to go pretty regularly. But that truly felt like an anomaly. That was like one of those NBA plays that feel like stopped everything when it happened.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I lost my mind when he hit that shot. And then years later, and even now I think about it, I remember I interviewed him about it once. And lost my mind when he hit that shot. And then years later, and even now I think about, I remember I interviewed him about it once and I don't remember his response because it was when I first started in the industry. But I was like, how do you go and then just hit a free throw after that?
Starting point is 00:26:54 Like I'm watching and I lost my mind. And so I just couldn't believe that he went and then was able to hit that free throw still. I guess that's why he's the professional basketball player. Right. Yeah. There's some Dame shots that felt like there were a couple years there that similar to what i was talking about with lebron when it was just like he couldn't
Starting point is 00:27:13 be stopped by anyone that was coming out of the eastern conference in the in the playoffs and he was going to hit a game winner dame has had like some some games in particular in the playoffs, but it truly felt like out-of-body, uncanny valley type stuff that I don't have any queued up, but true. Pretty wild stuff. Yeah, I mean, Dame ended OKC, and he kind of ended that Dwight Howard Houston era too. He just ended entire windows with his shots. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Hitting that sidestep three from the logo, like, which, again, like the LJ thing, feels a little bit more common now, but at the time was like, how's he shooting from out there like that? Like, yeah. So in modern times, active players, who are you picking now to take your last shot?
Starting point is 00:28:03 I think this might actually be an unpopular pick. I would go with Steph. I think in part because he has one of the most brazen game winners in memory. Like that mid-February game at OKC. It was on a Saturday night. He just pulls up from basically half court in overtime. And just like the audacity that he has,
Starting point is 00:28:21 I would go with him. Steph's got a demon game. That was my favorite tweet from that live. Someone was like, Steph's got a demon. That's it. I've never seen that, and that's has. I would go with him. The Steph's got a demon game. That was my favorite tweet from that live. Someone was like, Steph's got a demon. That's it. I've never seen that, and that's spectacular. Yeah, that was so cool. They do have a timeout.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Decide not to use it. Curry, way downtown. Bang! Bang! Oh, what a shot from Curry! With six tenths of a second remaining! The brilliant shooting of stephan curry continues and he ties the nba record with his 12th three-pointer of the game i think that is a yeah
Starting point is 00:28:55 that's a great point because it's like part audacity part skill part self-belief but yeah you almost you need to say no i'm going to take this shot because i see it going in yeah and yeah okay i'm going uh vinnie johnson today i think i think vinnie johnson still got it um now you know vinnie johnson we we gotta shout him out for yeah back in the day but um yeah today i mean we we haven't talked a lot about KD, but you know, dark horse pick, the greatest offensive player to ever play the game
Starting point is 00:29:31 might be my pick in Kevin Durant. You think he's the greatest offensive player? Like not even just score, just flat out offensive player? Yeah, maybe greatest score. Yeah, okay. That's a better way of putting it. I saw Dan show.
Starting point is 00:29:43 He was about to be like, wait, hold on, what? My God, he threw his chair across the room. Through the Zoom screen. Yeah, I think I've been such a fan of Damian Lillard. The thing that I love is to see players that will devastate the fans too. And there is something about some of those shots he's hit
Starting point is 00:30:01 where I'm like, oh, that must have been terrible to be in that arena. And to be on the opposite side of that. um so i think that one game against houston i think it was the first round but it was a deciding game against houston where he was playing out of his mind and then got that open look and i just remember it was like dead silent in houston and you just heard him do that and they threw it right to him and it was like you knew i turned around like before before he even took the shot because he just like hardened and given him a little bit too much room speaking of the pacific northwest as you were
Starting point is 00:30:37 just talking about portland seattle had a bit of a treat the crossover uh was going down over there and they got to see the likes of LeBron James, Isaiah Thomas, Jason Tatum light up the court. And there are a few highlights that were interesting. But the one thing that really blew my mind was seeing the line of fans trying to get into the gym when they heard LeBron James and Tatum were going to be playing. Have you seen this, Dan? Yes, I did see it.
Starting point is 00:31:04 People were calling for him to move the venue now. And he was like no i loved i love jamal crawford i love that dude the line of people for people haven't seen it someone took a clip on twitter uh just going down all the people waiting to get in and i'm not joking it's like a minute and 20 second clip that's like sped up from like maybe one and a half times yeah and people got chairs people got tents sleeping bags sleeping pads blankets like there's some good tents out there too some really good tents some really good chairs too but all this to say i'm like man this is all this sort of for me just underlines the fact that i'm like man seattle really they deserve a team like they're they need to have a team i was
Starting point is 00:31:45 so broken up even as like you know like i part of my idea of what the west is is playing the sonics yeah and to not have that is like a huge hole that i forget is there in my fan soul but to see like the people pack that gym out to know the gym was so crowded that like the floor was getting condensation on it. You're like, yep, this is a man. I'm like, let's,
Starting point is 00:32:08 let's get them a team. I miss those Sonics jerseys too. Me too. I was just going to say the colorway is missing from the NBA. That green and yellow. Yeah. Green and yellow. Green.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Are you mean? Or the green and like maroon sort of late latter day Sonics. I think they both worked really well. Yeah. They didn't have bad jerseys. And one of the best names. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Just a lot of fun. They need a team. They need to be named the Sonics. But yeah, there's the fan base for them, for sure. Yeah, the fans in the Pacific Northwest are just so loyal and dedicated. I mean, the second any team goes up in that area like the games are sold out like no matter what the sport is portland's fan base like around there too like they're really into it like they have one of the best like home court advantages in the league i
Starting point is 00:32:52 think yeah for sure we had a show up there and you could just like ask a cab driver about like most towns like you ask a cab driver something about the local nba team and like you're like maybe 20 gonna get like somebody who who knows anything in portland you ask a you ask a cab driver and they like know everything they're like well dame's hurt but i think when he comes back like we'll give you an in-depth answer and we'll like know history about the team and it's it's dope like that it is an actual culture i remember that you're just kind of like how you feeling about the blazers and then suddenly like we were on this dude's podcast and i was like man he's he is verse the same thing happened when we did a show in minnesota too i remember when we were driving
Starting point is 00:33:41 to the venue to the uh the cab driver we were talking to was just going off about the war. He was like, I'm actually a Bucks fan. But that's so much to say. And I was like, got to love it. Got to love it. Yeah. So one detail, because my first question after was like, well, did he put on a show? Did LeBron put on a show for the people of Seattle?
Starting point is 00:34:00 And unfortunately, it was a skating rink in there because the venue was not ready for that many people in a closed environment. It looked like when I would play sock basketball with my friends in socks using a sock to dug it in the thing. That honestly
Starting point is 00:34:20 looked like they were sliding around out there. I think they cut it short. He still had a couple dunks. And Tatum to LeBron Alley-oop, which was fun to see. But the best moment is him just walking through the crowd. Yeah. Man of the people. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:36 I love it. It's like the closest. It feels like a superhero film. Yeah. Because he's already big. So already he's towering over all the adoring people. But just the way he was moving through and just watching the magnetic energy of wherever he was, just watching the crowd slowly drift towards him was a very nice moment for sure.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I think we need more pro-am coverage. I think this needs to be the offseason of any professional sport but like even more the nba because it's so fun to watch them against people who aren't nba players and just like how good that it's a good level setting you really see how big lebron james is and how fast he is or even when him playing at half speed yeah yeah yeah to not injure himself as wild but yeah i think that's i really love watching that too because other sports don't really give you something like this or like it sort of distills these people back down to their essence as just like hoopers and they're like where's we're like where's the next game at and like oh right over there and suddenly it's lebron
Starting point is 00:35:40 james jason tatum like in this gym then it's so sweaty in there the floor gets slick like you're not going to get that same kind of interaction like with other athletes or fans like that in another sport but i think it's it's so fun to watch because it kind of helps me realize how much you love the game and how much they love the game too i like the abruptness of it too like all of a sudden jason tatum is going to play in the cross like that wasn't that thing 12 hours before it happened like it's cool finding out about stuff like that so close to tip off. And then it's like, oh, let's get our tent
Starting point is 00:36:09 because we're going to have to sleep outside to see them play. And then bring that level of connection and commitment out from the fans too. It's just like, oh, beautiful, beautiful. And then sometimes you get a little spicy hometown rivalry where it's like, oh, you were the best player of the last five years from this hometown. And now you were the best player of the last five years
Starting point is 00:36:25 from this hometown and now this is the best player of the next five years dejante murray and paulo you know that was that was interesting yeah i don't know it's fun let's do it up more proams and do goofy stuff in the proams like uh you know four point shots and stuff like that exactly 50 points with it thank you all right let's take another quick break we're gonna be right back like, you know, four point shots and stuff like that. Exactly. 50 point baskets. 50 point baskets. Thank you. All right. Let's take another quick break. We're going to be right back for the famous rapid fire round of questions.
Starting point is 00:36:54 I'm so sorry. I'm Kerry Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
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Starting point is 00:39:50 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And guess what, Dan Favalli? You are in the hot seat because it's time for the rapid fire round of questions holy cow man in this case we are asking you a question whatever your first response is your instinct tells you just give us that don't think it has to be quick quick quick that's the whole point question question answer question answer okay do not slow it up with anything okay we would like to be really clear about that with the guests up top.
Starting point is 00:40:26 So, take my time, think it through, explain it, got it. Exactly. Alright. First of all, well, here we go. Start the clock! Okay, now, Jack, do you want to go first? I would let you. I was just gonna table, put a notion on the table that you
Starting point is 00:40:44 started asking that in a little bit of a nicer way because Super Producer Jabari and Super Producer Brian, I feel like, deserve just a little more respect. They are starting the clock. They heard you. You don't need to scream at them and be so rude. Please begin the countdown sequence.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Thank you. You can go. Okay, so far we're so good. We're staying on track to be one of our fastest segments So I'm sorry, did you want to go first? We still didn't work that out I said you could go first, man Do you want me to go first?
Starting point is 00:41:13 I don't know, you're humiliating me in front of the camera Okay, here we go I'm so sorry about that, Dan Rapid fire, start the clock Keep the clock going Keep it going Dan, Karl-Anthony Towns or Larry Bird in a three-point competition? Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Carl Anthony Towns. Wow. Wow. Okay. I mean, controversial take in Boston. I feel like people in Boston might not appreciate that. I'm curious. But in any other town, I'd say that's the right question.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Uh, we do make a little time for wordplay like that. It's fun. We do like that. It's fun. Uh, all right, get ready.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Boom. Uh, three points to us. Uh, which team wins a postseason series first, uh, the Nets or the Knicks? The Nets.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Okay. And so you've totally given up on the Knicks? Have you given up on the Thibodeau era? Where are we at with your Knicks? Yeah. I think everything they've done is fine to just be in the middle and not win any playoff series at this point. And the Nets, at least,
Starting point is 00:42:17 we just talked about them before, there's an outcome where they're terrible, but there's an outcome where they win the title. I'll take that. Yeah. Okay. an outcome where they're terrible, but there's an outcome where they win the title. I'll take that. I'm sorry. Rapid. Here we go. Dan, pizza style. Who's on top?
Starting point is 00:42:34 New York, Detroit, or Chi-Town? It'd be New York for me. There's a bias there, but Chi-Town pizza is like a cake. I don't know how it would be them, but I've never had it. I've heard very good things about Detroit pizza. Oh, yeah. Okay, their pan pizza.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Oh, and also, follow-up question. Where's the best slice in New York City? There's this place called Joe's, I think, in Rockefeller Center that's technically underground, and it's really the best pizza I've ever had in my entire life. I haven't been there in years since the pandemic started but it was just so good but you can't
Starting point is 00:43:08 i don't know if you can get a bad slice anywhere in like the heart of new york city joe's is also my favorite and i've never heard anybody else go with joe's wait really shout out yeah joe's on uh i used to live in the west village right by the West 4th Street stop. That's my favorite plain slice. I have a favorite Sicilian slice, Leaker Street Pizza. But my favorite plain slice in New York City is the Joe's Plain Slice, West 4th Street. Okay. Well, Jack, the question was for Dan, but let's keep it rapid. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I'm happy that I'm not totally incorrect. No, you were. And Dan, I'm sorry that this is not living up to the rapid description. I'm cool with whatever. Okay, thank you. My bad. You did choose the wrong Joe's, I just had to say.
Starting point is 00:43:51 But that's all right. You make a three to win an NBA Finals game. What does your celebration look like? Oh, man. I'm like a spinning leap. And I don't have a vertical vertical so it might just be a spin right like a pirouette like you go up what are you doing like a 180 can you do a full 360 thing i would do i try to go for the full 360 and i'm definitely like injuring a hamstring or a calf
Starting point is 00:44:16 like on the way down when i'm landing but that's absolutely what i'm not flexing because that'd be embarrassing i'd be very cognizant of that with cameras in front of me. Oh, you wouldn't flex. Okay. No. No one needs to see that. Yeah. What would you do, Jack? I would be flexing because I would not be seen in public not flexing. I think you know that about me, Miles.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Probably, like, I would just burst into tears like I just won the title, even if it was inappropriate. Like we didn't say to win the NBA finals. It's in an NBA finals game. I think it's funny to start weeping. You try a knee slide on the park. Yeah, because we accept when a player starts crying when they win a title.
Starting point is 00:45:03 But nobody has tested the starts crying when they win a regular season game. Right. I would probably drink a fan's beer. Yeah. I would grab in a waif, like whoever the opposition is. I'd grab their beer after I hit it, and I would just pound the whole thing. I'd be like, ah! Nice.
Starting point is 00:45:22 I'd drink your beer. I would hope I'd have an iconic stare like how Dame has his or even the Tyler Hero stare. I want a meme made out of my stare or look after I make that shot. I don't know what face I'm making but I'm hoping it gets me. It'd be funny if it's the most awkward
Starting point is 00:45:37 face where it's like, whoo? It would be for me. It'd probably just be my big ass forehead just taking up the entire meme of the screen. Killer. You know what's an underrated facial expression after a game-winning shot is Vladi when he hit the layup in game one
Starting point is 00:45:52 against the Bulls and he ran down the court with his hands on his face like Kevin in Home Alone was like, Oh no! What did I do? It's a lot of fun. I think something like that that's a little bit silly would be what i would aspire to yeah or tears or did you see that one little boy who was trying
Starting point is 00:46:12 to be like steph and he literally laid down on the court and went good night threw it up and he laid on the court like this yeah disrespect i love it okay moving on rapid um uh is it me or is it no it's me patrick ewing or david robinson all time oh david robinson that hurts me i love pat but it's david robinson i don't even know if it's that close wow wow man wanted to give wanted to give pat some love i mean i love pat but just go back and watch Prime David Robinson highlights. That dude was mesmerizing on so many levels. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:49 The sad moral. I'll take Patrick Ewing's knee pads, though. Those things were ginormous. Yeah, I love those knee pads. It's wild, though, too. I think maybe I was saying this off mic, how my appreciation for... Were we saying this on mic? For big men completely changed because when I was
Starting point is 00:47:06 a kid, I had no concept for people who wore knee pads. I was like, you can't be good if you wear knee pads out there. And I'm like, these are some of the best players we've seen. Anyway, moving on. Jack? Is Donovan Mitchell in a Knicks jersey when the season starts?
Starting point is 00:47:21 I'm going to say no. I think the Jazz are going to try and squeeze every asset out of the Knicks. They're going to say no. I think the Knicks are going to, like the Jazz are going to try and squeeze every asset out of the Knicks. They're going to maintain their ground, start the season like four and seven and then overpay to get them. I think that's just how this probably ends. And finally, Dan, Miles or Jack?
Starting point is 00:47:37 Oh, I can't. You both are equally super high on my ladder. You're not tricking me on that one. Wow! This is huge for me. Everybody else has immediately and instinctively gone miles. This is really... Wow. That means so much to Ty
Starting point is 00:47:53 on this. That means a lot to us. You're fair. You're a kind god, Dan. I've made a career out of copping out, so happy to be here. And I am putting my own idea into motion. I am weeping openly. This is my celebration. Wiping tears off with my jersey.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Oh, Dan Favalli. Thank you so much for stopping by on Miles and Jack got mad boosties, man. Where can people find you and follow you check you out listen to you and all that yeah they can find me and all my nonsense just on twitter at dan favalli f-a-v-a-l-e uh and follow your own risk but follow perfect perfect uh and you know where to find us i think right yeah yeah you know i think i know where to find you're at miles of right yeah you're at jack underscore o'Brien. I knew that. We knew that. On Twitter.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Twitter. Exactly. And Instagram for me. But thank you all for listening. Guess what? Episode 22 in the books. Coming back with that MJ on our back like we never left. Until next time, remember, Miles and Jack got mad boosties.
Starting point is 00:48:59 And that's a fact. Don't forget it. The NBA has endorsed that fact. I can get net or could get net the last time I try. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil.
Starting point is 00:49:23 I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.
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