The Daily Zeitgeist - Alligator Auschwitz, LaBuBu = Pazuzu? 07.03.25

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

In episode 1890, Jack and Miles are joined by award winning educator, professor, author, freelance journalist, thought leader and media critic, Dr. Jon Paul Higgins, to discuss... the grand opening of... 'Alligator Alcatraz', Chuck Schumer DESTROYING the Big Beautiful Bill, 'Jurassic Park' suffering from a bad case of 'Jaws', LaBuBu dolls being pure evil from the 7th layer of Hell and much more! The Grand Opening of an American Concentration Camp | The New Republic Schumer strips 'big, beautiful bill' name from Trump's spending package | Fox News 'Jurassic World: Rebirth' Review: The Latest Jurassic Park Sequel Might Be The Worst Yet Labubu Craze: The 5 Wildest Scandals About the Hot New Toy LISTEN: Campeón - Single by ZULAN | Spotify BUY: Black Fat Femme Book — DoctorJonPaulSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Here we go. Post-mortem. Three, two, one. Perfect. Perfect. Yeah. What's that shirt? You got, what's that?
Starting point is 00:00:12 Michael? Yeah, it's Michael. Yeah. Moonwalker. I don't know which Michael. Oh, no, that's bad. Doesn't cover the bad. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:20 That was my peak Michael Jackson and also my kids peak Michael Jackson. Yeah, I have the three. So if you were ever to come to my office and you all are welcome, actually, I only let people in my house that actually like, and so I like you all. Have you ever had a guest on the show that you, they got to the door and you were like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:00:41 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no And like they'll never be on my show again. No, thank you. But I have a wall and it's one one side is Beyonce and the other side is Michael. And I have the bad of the Thriller album and then have the dangerous album. I think those are the three best albums that Mike Everett. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:57 So I feel like dangerous was very overlooked. In my opinion, I feel like my first CD, my nine year old. Yes. That's the one was me alone on it, right? Yes. Don't just leave me alone. Yeah. Well, that was on bad. Yeah, but that's not me alone. It's dangerous.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Is it? No, it's not on dangerous. It's on bad. Leave me alone. Oh, oh, oh, my God. It was like the last single off. It was. Uh huh. I think it's like a Mandela effect for a mic. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:01:32 The visuals of it feel like dangerous. Yeah. Yeah. The visuals in the video. I remember the video was like a roller coaster already. He was on a roller coaster like through his own face because the dangerous cover was like sort of theme park. Yeah, yeah, that's what fucked me up.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Wow. That's the dangerous one. Do you remember? Yeah, that's remember the time and all that. It up. Stop, stop, stop. Give it up. Me. It's me. On the floor.
Starting point is 00:02:04 On the floor. On the floor. Two, three. On the floor, Michael. Really? What about? What about? That's my favorite Michael Jackson line. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Fuck. Jam, too. Yeah. Jam. It's actually not too much for me to jam. Yeah. I know a lot of people think that that's going to, you're going to be imposing on me. It's actually not too much.
Starting point is 00:02:31 It's actually not so hard for me to jam. So hard for me to jam. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm in good company because. Does Michael Jackson have a lyrics book that I could purchase. Has anybody ever like dug in and been like show Mo means and just show Mo and show Mo
Starting point is 00:02:57 means. Yeah. And he was predicting like that would be cool to just go deep on his like utterances and be like, this actually was predicted, like go Nostradamus on it. Yeah. Michael Jackson predicted it. I'm gonna say Mamasama Matusa actually was predicting global warming, global warming in many ways. You're a vegetable and they hate you a vegetable.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Did you imagine? I always say that. That's not Barry Shivo. I was just going to say, and they hate you when they hate you. You're a vegetable. Oh, man. I have heard this.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I hate you and love you both so fucking much. I'm trying to see the matrix in Michael Jackson's lyrics. You're a vegetable. Oh, hey, could you imagine someone running up to you and just be like, you're a vegetable. Like coming in, writing those lyrics and being like, yeah, actually, yeah, actually, this fucking rules in this timeline. Maybe the best song of I think Pitchf rank that the best song of that decade and I
Starting point is 00:04:07 Am hard-pressed to disagree that song fucking rips. Yeah. Yeah You're a vegetable American history is full of wise people Well women said something like no 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is glory. Those founding fathers were gossipy AF and they loved to cut each other down. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer. Hamilton pauses and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar.
Starting point is 00:04:54 And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said, it would have been harder to fake it than to do it. Listen to American History Hotline on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. podcast. Join Lex Borrero every week as he sits down with some of the biggest names in entertainment to talk about the real stuff, the struggles, the doubts, and the breakthroughs that made them who they are. They go deep, covering childhood trauma, family, overcoming loss, and the moments that shape their journey. These honest conversations are meant to take the cape off our heroes with the hope that their humanity inspires you to become a better you and therefore set you free to live the
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Starting point is 00:07:09 Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the iHeartRadio app. Apple podcasts are wherever you get your podcasts. This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, Sophia Bush is here. Tell me how that feels to be a hot, considered a hot lesbian. Quite an honor. You know what's funny is you do this weird math. Like if you're a woman dating men, nobody wants to talk to you about your sexuality. They just want to either say like you're a prude or a slut, you know? If you date too much, they criticize you. If you don't date, you must be frigid, whatever. And then the thing that gets added when you're actually more fluid with your sexuality is
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Starting point is 00:08:14 Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 395, episode four of Dirty Aliens, hi guys. That's right, it's a podcast, it's a production of iHeartRadio, it's a podcast where It's a production of I Heart Radio. It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into American shared consciousness. And it is Thursday, July 3rd. Interesting fact, it is Thursday, July 3rd, 2025. Debatable, debatable. Anything's up for debate nowadays. Miles actually doesn't believe that.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I think it's actually May 67. Uh-huh. You asked me It's also national and if you got the math right on that if it is actually the 60 like if may kept going It was the sixes that would be fucking incredible. I just do that up there, but it might be It's a national but hey everything's up for debate even numbers national fried clam day national chocolate wafer day national eat your beans day and national beans National chocolate wafer day, national eat your beans day, and national compliment your mirror day. Who's the person who got a picture taken, she's like best 42nd birthday ever,
Starting point is 00:09:14 it was one of the mega ghouls, and she's like my husband took me to barbecue and she just had this massive bowl of beans, and someone was like that's a lot of beans you bitch, or something really rude and then people been Photoshopping her she's the one who like tried to make a thing by Say like with trans bathroom Yeah, Nancy Mace, I think that did one
Starting point is 00:09:41 Nancy Mace beans check it out Nancy Mace beans Nancy Mace beans. Check it out. Nancy Mase beans. Nancy Mase beans. Oh, wow. So much. But that's a lot of beans. You nasty ass bitch. I mean, it is a lot of beans, but I can't. Oh, that's not that much.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Hold on. As someone who, if you, if you get like a barbecue trade, that's a requisite side of beans. That's why I didn't bring it up on the show. That's why I didn't do a whole story about it on the show is because in the end I like beans and this is actually a unifying moment. Look, I'm not defending Nancy Mase.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I'm defending the legume. That's a normal size amount. And look, I'm glad she has color increase too. Find a new angle. That's a normal sized amount of beans. That is a normal, look at that. You got the nice paper tray, paper line tray. You got the pickles and the ribs and it's okay. Hot. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, I'm hungry.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Penny who? July 3rd, 2025, May 67th. No, who cares? This is the day before, 4th of July. And my name is Jack O'Brien, AKA Princess Thiana, AKA Lady thigh, AKA, uh, dirty thigh. AKA John caked up big old timer Schmidt. Um, that one courtesy of locker only on the discord reference back to, uh, my big, big old thighs. Um, and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.
Starting point is 00:11:09 This is Miles Gray, K. Chicken tikka masala casserole. Okay. How's he on salad with that one? Cause we were coming up with the most violent Americanized versions of Indian food with Paula V. Gnallin. What's in it? Just cream of mushroom soup and some turmeric. Oh my God. I thought chicken quesadilla, because this is how we made it in my household. It
Starting point is 00:11:40 was a cereal and it's very good, I will say but it's a like six layers of flour tortillas with cream of chicken soup and cheese like shredded cheese sprinkled in between and it is actually really good. But it is not what I think quesadillas are traditionally. No, no, no. It is definitely the Midwestern ass version of quesadillas. Oh. No, no, no. It is definitely the Midwestern-ass version of quesadillas. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that. Shout out to the Midwest for, like, I get that usually the diasporas of like people don't quite get to the Midwest
Starting point is 00:12:17 as quickly as it does to the coasts, but then it's like they heard tell of a thing from the city and they're like, oh yeah, we can do that. Exactly, it's like post-apocalyptic cooking. This is not what it is at all. It's like post heard tell of a thing from the city and they're like, Oh yeah, we can do that. Exactly. It's like post-apocalyptic cooking. Not what it is at all. It's like post-apocalyptic cooking, like post like it, all you have is canned goods. Anyways, shit hits. Anyways, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant writer, speaker
Starting point is 00:12:41 and social justice educator who's written for Ebony Complex out the route and appeared on NBC News Buzzfeed and Vox among many others. They're also the host of the amazing podcast, BFF Black Fat Femme. It's Dr. John Paul Higgins! Dr. Higgins! She is black, she is back.
Starting point is 00:13:00 It is exciting to be here. What a moment! How have you? It's been too long, Dr. Higgins. Great to be back. The good doctor has How have you? It's been too long, Dr. J. It's been a minute. The good doctor has joined us. That is, yes.
Starting point is 00:13:08 The doctor is in the building. Yes, that's right. The educational doctor is at the building. Yes. So yes. More of a doctor than Dr. Phil, I would say. TB, you know what, TBH, you are so, so correct in that. TBQH, if I might add.
Starting point is 00:13:21 To be quite honest, yes, yes, yes, yes. I'm welcome. You know, so I was sitting here, you know, as you were talking about beans, and I don't know, I may have to get this bleeped, but it reminds me of that meme when someone's like, these, no, I think it was a tweet, was it Twitter? I know what you're talking about, yes.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Yeah, somebody was like, they snuck beans into a movie theater and dropped them, and somebody screamed. They said the most embarrassing thing that ever happened to them was they snuck beans into a movie theater, was eating them, and the beans fell. And somebody screamed, this nigga eat beans.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Exactly. It's famous. That one is probably one of the most famous bean based, while watching Cars 2. Yes, thank you. Cars 2! Victor came through. Hey, Cars 2 will make you drop your beans, I will say.
Starting point is 00:14:09 It was on X, it said, I spilled baked beans all over myself watching Cars 2 in theaters, and a black teenager shouted, this nigga eating beans! And everyone laughed. Who was it? Just someone named at Maxi Domius.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Shout out to Maxi Domus. Yeah. But now I'm like... That tickles me. It tickles me. Yeah. I mean, that became canonical. That was always something they'd say on Bodega Boys, I remember. That was just like one of their favorite refrains that you would hear Deezus say all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Beans, I mean, come on now. As someone who loves eating beans, that's just... You don't want to bring a spoon.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Don't eat shit with a spoon in the theater. Beans, beans, the magical fruit. The more you eat, the more you enjoy cars too. As the old saying goes. Yes, indeed. All right. Well, Dr. John Paul, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. They had a ribbon cutting at America's first or 11th or 17th concentration camp, but first in modern times, first recent concentration camp on American soil. I shouldn't specify, sucks that we have to specify that.
Starting point is 00:15:23 So we're going to talk about that because there's just a lot of very surreal weird shit happening down there. On the other hand, ladies and gentlemen, we got them. Chuck Schumer got their ass by changing the name of the big beautiful bill at the last second. So we just wanna, you know, talk about that and how. So by changing it, it's now nullified? It can, does it no longer? No, no. It can no, no, changing the name miles, changing the name to, uh,
Starting point is 00:15:48 it's no longer called big, beautiful bill at all. Uh, and now it's called, just called like the act or like some shit. Uh, so like the thing that everybody was, I think he thought we were all taking it at face value and like that history would take it at face value that it that history would take it at face value, that it was a big, beautiful, but he changed the name. And thus, sometimes I just wonder, did this man travel back in time from the future to save us from our fate? You know, because he just makes these shrewd moves that all through the course of history,
Starting point is 00:16:20 clearly sees the matrix anyways, we'll make fun of him Jurassic Park slash world is coming out this weekend expected to make 260 million dollars globally the reviews are not great. I'm just wondering I had hoped I had some hopes for this We were rooting for you we were all rooting for you exactly Some of the reviews are very mean. I'm just wondering, like, is this, have we just been giving the Jurassic Park franchise too much credit and it really was jaws all along. It was just like, one good movie and then all the sequels were just like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:17:00 it's not as good as the first one that was directed by Steven Spielberg. Exactly. I'll give the second one some credit cause my homegirl Vanessa's in that one. So I don't want to, I don't want to talk shit on that one, but yeah, it's not as good as the first one that was directed by Steven Spielberg. Exactly. I'll give the second one some credit because my home girl Vanessa's in that one. So I don't want to, I don't want to talk shit on that one, but yeah, it's been diminishing. Dr. Ian Malcolm's daughter. Yes. Vanessa Chester. Are you serious? You don't remember when she was in the studio, uh, one time when I was like, I freaked out. Yeah, I did lose consciousness and that's why I don't remember. She was like, she was in a little princess. We'll check back in with little booboo dolls because
Starting point is 00:17:31 the zeitgeist is catching. I talked to him a few weeks ago about how I thought that this was all about like creepy, like our obsession with creepy dolls and that this was going to be a big, a big deal because Americans are actually secretly obsessed with creepy dolls. And now there's like a full on satanic panic happening. So we'll talk about that. We want our listeners to be saved. Don't play or don't mess around with Satan's playthings, please. Our Christian listeners better not be buying those. And we'll explain why at 11. But first, Dr. John Paul Higgins,
Starting point is 00:18:08 we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Funny enough, Labooboo. Oh. All of my search history for the last maybe two days, I am looking, well, I got it. There was a specific Labooboo I wanted.
Starting point is 00:18:24 There is a purple one with wings It has it's a little it's giving prints What's the name? Is there a name? Do they have no the name of it? It's called the purple winged one Yeah, it just has there's a name for it I don't know the name of it, but it's a purple one with wings and it gives me Prince vibes and I was like Oh, I want it and I found it. So I'm gonna pick it up tomorrow So this you're notaking in the blind box. So if you, you know, for, for listeners, you can't see it, but for those of you who can see me,
Starting point is 00:18:53 I have a couple of blind boxes behind me. Okay. Yeah. What does that mean? A blind box, but if, but you will also go Oh, well they're not, I already opened them. Oh, oh, oh, yeah. Yeah. But they were boxes. Oh, got you. Okay. I thought we could do something special on the show for our listeners and do some very visual like, oh, my box is not open. I would. Yeah. I would do that for you. I was, you know, I show this is no, he's going to waste a fucking little boo boo unboxing on this show. That's true. That's just too hype. Wait. So the way you talked about it, JP, it sounded like you're adopting a pet.
Starting point is 00:19:25 You're like, I gotta go pick it up tomorrow. I think I'm gonna go to gain custody tomorrow. That's pretty much what it is. This is like a third party off-market deal? No, it's Pop Mart. It's Pop Mart. I don't know why I'm having Pop Mart because of... So there's this thing in this world that we also need to be... We need to talk a lot about.
Starting point is 00:19:42 There's La Boo Boo and then there's La Foo Foo. You have to be cautious of the la foo foos because the foo foos will get you caught up in the sense that many of them will, they'll charge you the 50, 60, $70 for one. You find out it's not real. And so I only, these days I only buy mine from pop Mart because I've had one or two la foo foos come through as I tried to purchase a Lebooboo. And they're deadly. The Lefoufou's can be deadly choking hazard, which I- Those are the demons.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yeah, those are the demon ones. Yeah, we'll get to that. Also could be made of lead. We don't know. Yeah, so. So I'm just doing the job of Lebooboo. Yeah, yes. They're like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:21 I've heard that those ones are bad luck and they'll get you killed. I'd buy the real thing. If I were you, I don't know. I've heard that those ones are bad luck and they'll get you killed by the real thing. If I were you, I'd like to sound like the diamond industry was simulated. Diamonds came out. They're like, I don't know if you want those. I mean, they're cheaper and stuff, but you know, turn your ears green. Basically. Yeah. What is what's something you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:20:40 Something that's underrated my book. So I had a book. Yeah. March. Hell yeah. The black fat femme book. If you if you just search it, it's you know, my book. So I had a book come out in March, the Black Fat Femme book. If you just search it, it's right behind me. But ultimately, yes, Black Fat Femme,
Starting point is 00:20:51 revealing the power of queer voices in media and how to love yourself came out in March of, it was March 25th. And I say it's underrated because yes, it has sold, but it needs to sell more. So if you want to go over to Amazon, you want to go over to Barnes and Noble, I know that I probably should be waiting to do this at the end, but I'm going to do it up front. Do it up top. We need a, we need a and New York Times bestselling author in the intro going forward. Thank you. So tell everybody and your mom. Or buy it from a local bookstore, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:26 That too, that too, please, yes. Especially a black or queer one. Yeah, yeah. But yes, definitely. Do they got an Octavia's book? Octavia's bookshelf? Octavia's bookstore is a great place to go. And also Reparations Club in LA.
Starting point is 00:21:36 I've worked with them in the past. How, I mean, in talking, because I know you are speaker on things like inclusivity and things like that. How, looking at the corporate retreat and diversity, especially this past Pride month, how do you see that as somebody who's seen the undulations of that over the many, many years? You know what a lot of it is. So this is the thing, and I've said this and I will continue to keep saying this, you know, doing the right thing is expensive. And I think a lot of the bottom lines for a lot of these companies have been, I want
Starting point is 00:22:08 to continue to keep doing terrible things because I don't, I can keep doing what I'm doing the way that I'm doing. It's been easy for folks to roll back on it because now they don't have to give it their attention. They don't have to put money towards it. They don't have to bring people like me in. They don't have to watch what they're saying. And so I think a lot of it has a lot to do with this idea of folks never really
Starting point is 00:22:27 wanted to do it in the first place. A lot of it was performative. And now we're just really truly seeing folks true colors, like, like Target, Target is a great example of seeing a company, you know, and again, I don't know if we're supposed to be saying that on the air, but I will say, you know, this is, you know, watching a lot of these companies move and operate the way they've been operating is definitely reminding me as someone who's doing this work of like, you've never been interested in doing the right thing in the first place.
Starting point is 00:22:52 And that's what capitalism is, right? This idea of folks getting over on a specific marginalized group. And then being able to just be like, yeah, but we have an obligation to our shareholders. Yeah, I was just reading an article about private equity and that came up again, that And then being able to just be like, yeah, but we've got, we have a obligation to our shareholders. Yeah, I was just reading an article about private equity and that came up again, that they're just like, yeah, but you know, so we want to keep doing what's right for the teachers funds that are invested in our private equity companies. What about them?
Starting point is 00:23:22 And it's just, yeah, that argument that, well, you, you have, you, your only obligation is to make more money for your shareholders. And that's fucking bullshit. That's a cop out. Um, when you like go back to the original theorists on like free market capitalism, even they were like, well, except for like, you know, schools and hospitals and, uh, you know, things that require that like need to be there so that people aren't fucking victimized. Uh, and the, the world doesn't turn into a post-apocalyptic landscape. And, uh, that stuff just got quick, just snipped out, edited out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:02 And so that's where we're at. I think we're at a place right now where we're, you know, and we've always known this, I think, especially if you're black or brown, you know, or queer or any type of marginalized individual, you've always kind of known that there's been no corporate interest in folks being on your side or helping you. I've even said, like, I saw a video the other day where someone stopped a Target worker and was like, how much do you get paid to work here? And she was like, 1725. And they were like, how much money do you make a day?
Starting point is 00:24:30 And she was like, $100. And I'm thinking to myself, like, that's insane. Like the fact that there's somebody who's living on $100 a day, and there's people at the top that have no interest in making that person's life better in any capacity. It just, it blows my mind. But I still have that to say, that's literally where we're at. And I just, I'm happy folks are starting to wake up to it. I'm seeing people both online and off wake up to this idea
Starting point is 00:24:52 that there's no interest in them making your life better. No, there's no interest in the humanity of the worker and their experience. That's the word I'm looking for. COVID brain, but yeah, there's no interest in your humanity and I'm happy that I'm seeing so many people wake up to that. So I think if it was equal,
Starting point is 00:25:08 if they could just be like, we'll make just as much money. They, they might be interested in doing the thing. But the thing ultimately, when we're like, how do you sleep at night? They're like very well, as long as I'm making money, as long as, you know, like that, as long as I'm making shrewd decisions that like are going to ensure that I have money for, you know, that I continue to be wealthy and have an advantageous position in this civilization. Um, but it's, uh, yeah, I think,
Starting point is 00:25:39 I think when it comes to whether, whether you're going to do the right thing or make money, they need so little of a push to be like, yeah, fuck them. Fuck everybody. We're going to let go up, right? Okay. We're going to let the line go up. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:59 All right. Well, everybody go get the book. What is something you think's overrated? Overrated. So I had to self-fund and push my book tour. And one of the things about doing the book tour was traveling. And I don't know how much I saw that you all, you all were just in a city I was just in. I literally missed you. I forget where you were. I was in Des Moines over the weekend. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think we literally, we were like two ships in the night. Oh, you were just in Des Moines? I was. Yeah. And so I think it was there for a layover and all that to be said, traveling, I think flying, I think packing, I think just all of it is,
Starting point is 00:26:36 it's awful. Like living out of like a suitcase. Like I literally, there have been two legs of my book tour where I literally went from like one city to another. And I was literally like from one hotel to another. And by the time I got home and had to turn around and repack to leave again, I was like, I don't want to do this ever again. And so like, I just think traveling is trash. And then now you add COVID and the babies crying and then you have the people who just it's just it's it's It's like traveling is a lot.
Starting point is 00:27:07 That was the planes fucking falling out of the sky and shit almost crashing. It's everything fucking sucks. It's played is actually like that actually happened to me. I was in San Luis Obispo and we literally were on the tarmac and we literally, you could, you know, that, that, that energy of when you feel the plane getting ready to start to go off. Yeah, it's getting itself psyched up. Yeah, getting itself psyched up. Come on, plane. Let's fucking go.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Come on, plane. And it started and we literally were like halfway down the tarmac and then I just heard, eww. And I was like, oh my God, what is happening? Yeah. Sorry guys, the plane's a little bummed out. Yeah. And the plane, basically, something electrical went wrong with the plane.
Starting point is 00:27:50 They had to turn the plane back around and take us back to the actual spot. And we were there waiting for three or four hours. And I eventually ended up having to rent a car and drive to San Francisco because I could not get another flight. It's that bad to travel these days. Am I going so I went to a wedding in Des Moines.
Starting point is 00:28:09 So many people had horrible travel stories who got there like people got in like the next day or a day late. What one friend of ours who has like a kid they were they were leaving the airport. They got stuck on the tarmac for nine hours because they said they overfilled the plane with fuel, so they needed to burn some fuel. And in that process, they went over like the union time limit for the crew. So the crew had to get switched out before they could take off. That added another thing when they were going to take off. Then they said, whoops, we now burned too much fuel
Starting point is 00:28:40 and we have to return to the gate to refuel. And that flight ended up getting canceled. And they had to go sleep in the airport and then take off on a flight the next morning. It was like, this sounds like the worst dumb shit ever. It sounds like if you put me in charge of a plane like in my twenties, you know? I'm just like, ah, fuck.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Ah, put too much fuel in? All right, just, just have it. I guess we'll just like chill here and let it burn off. Ah, fuck, we just went over the time limit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Yeah. All right, let's drive over there.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Fuck, we're on almost empty now. What the fuck is going on? Wait, you got to go? Wait, where are you going? You got to go? Yeah. Oh, shit. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:18 It's very much giving that. Just like me as an overmatched waiter. Yeah. Just like not knowing, not being able to. The opportunity to oversee everything in the air. Exactly. That's what it is. Yeah. Just like not knowing, not being able to. We give an RFK the opportunity to oversee everything in the air. Exactly. That's what it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Just nothing. Everything that, it's just utter trash. And then the food is terrible. And then they got the audacity to turn around and be like, we'll give you a $15 voucher for the inconvenience that we have with you. And it's like a food voucher? That's the least you could do? Okay, girl.
Starting point is 00:29:44 I bought a bag of beef jerky at Burbank Airport. You know how much a bag of beef jerky was? $23. $15. I believe it. The way Burbank knows they have you trapped. Like Burbank is so for people not in LA, like there's LAX, the big airport that's like on the South Bay. It's like, you know, all the way over on the coast, which is very far from most things in Los Angeles. And then there's Burbank, which is actually like surprisingly close to a lot of places, much closer to where I live,
Starting point is 00:30:14 where Miles lives. The fares are much cheaper. You get there, you better have eaten. You better have had all the water that you need because they will sell you a bottle of water for $20 like I swear they were in there because you're a buffet it's more like a bus stop that's why I love Burbank like roll in if you have that pre-check, I will walk in there,
Starting point is 00:30:46 I'm not joking, 10 minutes before the boarding. And you can get through if you got, it's... Yeah, it's a breeze. I'm not complaining. I'll just eat like 3000 calories before I get there so there's no chance I'm buying a $17. You can actually be like, hey, hold the door while you're going through TSA. Hey, hold the door, hold the door.
Starting point is 00:31:03 I'm coming on that way. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. It's like Long Beach is the same way. Yeah, it's like a train. Yeah. It's a subway. Long Beach is the same way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Yeah, exactly. Shout out to the smaller little airports around the big ones. Yes. They're always nice. Nice little change of pace. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:31:22 All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. American history is full of wise people. Well, women said something like no, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is glory. Those founding fathers were gossipy AF and they love to cut each other down. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Hamilton pauses and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said, it would have been harder to fake it than to do it. Listen to American history hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Don't miss the You vs. You podcast. Join Lex Borrero every week as he sits down with some of the biggest names in entertainment
Starting point is 00:32:35 to talk about the real stuff, the struggles, the doubts, and the breakthroughs that made them who they are. They go deep, covering childhood trauma, family, overcoming loss, and the moments that shape their journey. These honest conversations are meant to take the cape off our heroes with the hope that their humanity inspires you to become a better you and therefore set you free to live the life of your dreams. Here's a sneak peek. I'm trained to go compete. I'm trained to be like harder. But sometimes that mentality stops you from stopping and smelling the flowers in your own garden. Is it wrong to want more?
Starting point is 00:33:11 We migrated. Our family migrated here. I'm like second generation. Listen to You Versus You as part of My Kultura podcast network. Available on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just like great shoes, great books take you places. Through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget. I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I'm Danielle Robay and this is Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, the new podcast from Hello Sunshine and iHeart Podcasts. Every week I sit down with your favorite book lovers, authors, celebrities, book talkers, and more to explore the stories that shape us, on the page and off. I've been reading every Reese's Book Club pick, deep-diving book talk theories, and obsessing over book-to-screen casts for years. And now, I get to talk to the people making the magic. So if you've ever fallen in love with a fictional character or cried at the last chapter or
Starting point is 00:34:12 passed a book to a friend saying, you have to read this, this podcast is for you. Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, Sophia Bush is here. Tell me how that feels to be considered a hot lesbian. Quite an honor. You know what's funny is you do this weird math. If you're a woman dating men, nobody wants to talk to you about your sexuality. They just want to either say you're a woman dating men, nobody wants to talk to you about your sexuality They just want to either say like you're a prude or a slut
Starting point is 00:34:47 You know if you date too much they criticize you if you don't date you must be frigid whatever and then the thing that gets added when you're actually more fluid with your sexuality is The swing goes to you better identify exactly who you are so we can figure out what name to call you and it's like Okay, and you know, I sort of looked around I was like has nobody been paying attention to like all the hot girls identify exactly who you are so we can figure out what name to call you." And it's like, okay. And I sort of looked around and was like, has nobody been paying attention to all the hot girls I've been kissing on camera? Maybe not in front of you off camera, but hi, I've always been here. Listen to Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
Starting point is 00:35:20 podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And Super Producer Bay is joining us from an airport and they can report that the drinks are $27 at the airport. That's for a pint of beer. Yeah, that's for probably. Having a pint and. It's wild that they get you to them like,
Starting point is 00:35:45 but for two bucks, it could be a double. And you're like, what? The Matt is not Matt thing. What the fuck is that then? Anyway, sorry. Alligator Alcatraz. Alligator Alcatraz. Like let's just combine concentration camps
Starting point is 00:35:59 with the energy of a Saturday morning cartoon. Yeah, exactly. Like it's a Hanna-Barbera character. Like, alligator Alcatraz. No, this is, there was a ribbon cutting, basically opening for the first concentration camp on American soil. I actually, maybe the 11th,
Starting point is 00:36:18 if you count the 10 that were used on Japanese people during World War II. No, we don't count those. Oh wait, maybe it's like, wait, actually, do we count the immigration depots around the time of the trail of tears? Because that would have been around 17 or 18. Those are clearly called immigration depots and not concentration camps.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Okay, but then there's Guantanamo. Okay, that's in Cuba. So maybe that's in Cuba. That's in Cuba. All right, well, regardless of- We're clean. Yeah, regardless of your grasp of history, this is another just dark day.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Trump walked around in a Gulf of America hat along with Oberstamführer Barbie, AKA Kristi Noem and Florida Governor Rob DeSantis. And they slapped this together in a little over a week. And again, will be the site of countless human rights violations against, for all, from statistically we can tell law-abiding people who were following the laws to have to properly go
Starting point is 00:37:08 through the immigration process in the United States. But again, Trump has now deemed pretty much anyone who, right now it's what he calls illegal, but it pretty soon is probably just gonna be brown people who don't agree with him. Yeah, caught being brown. At a certain point, that's just what it feels like the arc is of shit like this, sadly.
Starting point is 00:37:26 But they are now violent criminals. Chillingly, Trump said that like, this would just be the start, quote, "'I'd like to see them in many states,' Trump said at the press conference. And at some point, they might morph into a system where you're gonna keep it for a long time.'" Yikes.
Starting point is 00:37:42 So despite protests from local groups, residents, activists, and just the general horror from American people, like seeing this immigration policy, Trump got his own Alcatraz, and he seemed quite happy about it. Although some of the reporters that were there say, this shit doesn't, it's not, it's barely light rain worthy,
Starting point is 00:38:04 let alone as they say, it could survive a category two hurricane. Florida Portland Jason Dillon. They don't have those in Florida as far as, I checked with the new FEMA director and he's not aware of there ever being hurricanes in Florida. You can't be aware if you don't have the satellite imagery to back up that there's a tornado coming. Thank you, It's what they're doing. Galaxy brain.
Starting point is 00:38:25 As we talked about yesterday, they turned off. They stopped giving the Pentagon satellite information to the weather service. Yeah. So, so a lot of guessing at this point. What hurricanes? Oh, you, do you have pictures of those hurricanes? I didn't think so. Do they exist? This reporter, uh, Jason Delgado posted some videos on Twitter and it was stuff like just rainwater
Starting point is 00:38:48 on the floors of the cells because it was raining during this little walk and talk. They said, quote, "'While the soft roof of one tent rippled in the wind, water pooled at the base of the American and Florida state flags and around extension cords for lights.'" The state says the sites are rated
Starting point is 00:39:04 to withstand a category two hurricane. And again, I'm sure that's all part of the point. They're not gonna care if these people are harmed in a hurricane. As we know in Florida, they don't even do anything. They don't evacuate prisoners as it is. And Ron DeSantis is like, I don't even know if we need air conditioning
Starting point is 00:39:21 for people in prisons in this sweltering fucking place of hell. So yeah, and in the concentration prisons where people are being held, people are dying with fucking air conditioning. Like, you know, just by not giving them medical care like a human being needs. Exactly, and there's a ton of 911 calls
Starting point is 00:39:46 that come from even inside the facilities of people asking for help, because just, again, these things are just fucking venues for countless kinds of abuse and mistreatment. So there's a little bit of like MAGA ego beef that went on too, apparently. So last week, Meatball's Rob DeSantis actually gave the first tour of the concentration camp to Fox News, despite being told
Starting point is 00:40:13 by DHS that Kristi Noem wanted that terrible pleasure and honor to be the face of the person walking people through these cages where people will be held and detained. And he did it anyway. And apparently they were fucking pissed that he got the jump on being the, you know, the first tour guide of this fucked up place. And now when you look at Trump, like this man has just been out of his mind for a while now,
Starting point is 00:40:37 but I'm wondering like, like how we got to alligator Alcatraz, because we knew he wanted Alcatraz, right? Cause he saw a movie on TV and then posted, we need to open Alcatraz. And then I'd imagine people were like, yeah, sorry, like it's gonna cost a lot of fucking money. And it's just gonna be an absolute waste
Starting point is 00:40:56 to try and get Alcatraz running on top of the fact that it's like not built for anything. People can escape, it's not good. I don't know, I think you're just into the movie and maybe just convinced him that it was like, maybe they did like, well, we've got alligator Alcatraz at home in Florida. Do you want that?
Starting point is 00:41:14 And maybe he was like, yes, that's fine because he's a sick fucking Nazi obsessed senile old man. But again, he's still talking about Alcatraz in San Francisco. Like he's not letting up on that. He posted, quote, because of the violence and criminality I've seen due to the open border policy of Sleepy Joe, in particular, allowing millions of people into our country who shouldn't be here, I wanted something representative to show how we fight back.
Starting point is 00:41:36 And then it happened. I saw a picture of Alcatraz looking so foreboding. And I said, we're going to look into renovating and rebuilding the famous Alcatraz prison sitting high on the bay surrounded by sharks. What a symbol it is and will be. Conceptual work started six months ago and various prison developed. Okay, he in this, he's trying to act like
Starting point is 00:41:57 he didn't see the fucking movie like a couple weeks ago. And that gave him the idea. And he's like, actually this has been in the works for six months, it's not cause I saw a movie and people have me dead to rights on knowing that that's exactly how I got him the idea. And he's like, actually, this has been in the works for six months. It's not because I saw a movie and people have me dead to rights on knowing that that's exactly how I got to this idea. And again, the picture of Alcatraz that he saw in this scenario is a fucking coloring book picture of Alcatraz.
Starting point is 00:42:15 It is the island with shark fins, like four shark fins circling around it. I saw a picture of Alcatraz looking so foreboding, sitting in the bay surrounded by sharks. Like that's, so in the picture it was surrounded by sharks? Yes, it was. And we were, I was handed a child's menu, which also acts as a placemat at Carow's. We were eating at Carow's.
Starting point is 00:42:37 And I found all the words. And I found them all and it was great. And then I had my grilled cheese with ketchup. But yeah, also he didn't do much to impress the public with his mental acuity at this press conference either. Because again, he was asked a softball question from Fox. I just want to play the answer because when you understand what the question was, you're like, Oh, him brain not good.
Starting point is 00:43:01 I'm going to spread a lot. This is my home state. I love it. I love your government. I love all the people around. These are all friends of mine. They know very well. I mean, I'm not surprised that they do so well. They're great people. Ron has been a friend of mine for a long time.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I feel very comfortable in the state. I'll spend a lot of time here. I want to, you know, for four years, I've got to be in Washington and I'm okay with it because I love the White House I even fix up the little oval office. I make it. It's like a diamond dispute Okay, Rihanna shine bright like a diamond my oval office. Okay. This was the question though. However, hold on Can I guess can we guess sure? What does Florida mean to you mr. President?
Starting point is 00:43:44 Eric Adams sum up Florida one word. Well, what is Florida? All right, Mr. President? Eric Adams, sum up Florida in one word. What is Florida? All right, I'm just going to say, try and sum up the state of Florida, what it means to you. Okay, that's what you then that's what it felt like. That's what it felt like. Okay, what about you JP? I'm with you when you're right.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Okay, so we think because the president there was talking about a lot of how much time he's going to spend there. This is the question that was clarified twice to him. Dana Marie McNicol Fox News Channel. Mr. President, is there an expected timeframe that detainees will spend here days, weeks, months? And does that have anything to do with the immigration judges you just spoke about being trained and staffed here? When you say, what was the first part of your question? Is there a time frame you expect the detainees to spend here? Days, weeks, months? In Florida? Yes. I'm going to spend a lot. Look, this is my home state. All the people around, these are all friends of mine.
Starting point is 00:44:38 You can't even have a straight, like just a A to B conversation with those motherfuckers. You're here for the opening of a fucking concentration camp that where people are going to be detained who are mostly following the laws here to become American citizens. Yeah, I'd be here. I like it here. I'd be here days. I like it. I'm here. I live in a diamond in Washington DC. Shut the fuck up. What the fuck is this shit? That's wild. Yeah, yeah. Holy shit. I mean, again, that's the state of it.
Starting point is 00:45:10 And I think that's what's really, what really makes me nervous about this presidency is like this dude is just a senile old man with racist fantasies. And he's just like, I want to alligator out the tent. I want to blah, blah, blah. And they're like, yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir. Maybe we'll, and like now people like Nancy Mase are like,
Starting point is 00:45:27 I think South Carolina should have their own. And again, this shit with the alligator Alcatraz stuff, it's so fucked up because it's so euphemistic in the sense that it's meant to soften how absolutely vile this place is. To make you feel like, oh yeah, just a bunch of alligators wearing MAGA hats. No. Yeah, yeah. Just like a talking alligator comes in after that, like in the middle of that answer,
Starting point is 00:45:50 comes in over the TV screen and goes, and after these messages, we'll be right back. That's what I'm playing in his brain. Please go switch out the president's Adderall drip. Yeah. So very, very, very grim things on the horizon here. And I mean, this is just the beginning. Because now, as we know, this big, beautiful bill that's working its way through the House right now, or sorry, the act.
Starting point is 00:46:19 The act. Thank you, Miles. They are asking for anywhere from from 150 to $200 billion for the ice budget. Imagine how bad it is now, what they're gonna do when they're just absolutely wasting money on brutalizing people. So yeah, yeah, a lot going on.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Just firehose of money. Yeah, I do just wanna like come in and give a little bit of good news because Chuck Schumer did get their ass while they were down there celebrating. He was up in Washington putting it down, making changes, changing the course of history by changing the name of the big, beautiful bill. He said, this is not a big, beautiful bill at all. That's why I moved down the floor to strike the title. It is now called the act. That's what it's called, but it is not a big, beautiful bill at all. That's why I moved down the floor to strike the title.
Starting point is 00:47:05 It is now called the Act. That's what it's called, but it is really the big ugly betrayal, and the American people know it, now they remember it that way. Yeah, I think we're gonna be remembering this bill a little bit differently now that it's been stripped of its previously awesome nickname that we were all taking at the title's word.
Starting point is 00:47:26 I think I was just assuming it was a big, beautiful bill. So thank you, Chuck Schumer, for your hard work. What a great metaphor for the Democratic Party. I mean, look, we've been clamoring for them to fight back and I'm glad they chose that venue to do it. I mean, I will say though, a lot of the stuff that got stripped out of it was because enough Democratic senators were like raising the issues. So in that sense, yes, some thing was done in terms of this specific piece
Starting point is 00:47:56 and it's still probably gonna get a lot altered in the House version, but my God, like to really pat yourself on the back for being like, and I got him to change the name. Yeah. Yeah. Come on, man. It just feels like, I don't know, just spend whatever time you spent doing this and spend
Starting point is 00:48:16 it on actually like fighting the bill or like changing. Oh my God. Yeah, I actually had that. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Instead of just, uh, you know, broadcasting you like the, the, your, there's like work of futility done from the cuck chair on the like floor of Congress, you know, just being like, yeah, we got them. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, we got that. Yeah, exactly. I was thinking to myself when I saw this, so I want to jump in and say, like, I know for those of you who do or don't know,
Starting point is 00:48:49 I work for a LGBTQ nonprofit. And, um, when the news came through, you know, folks were saying, Oh, the Medicaid of it all is not going to impact those who are looking for gender. I, you know, gender confirmation surgery or anything of that nature, but I'm still too in my mind, I'm going, this is still terrible. Like, like, like, yes, yay, I guess you could say yay for that. But it's still awful. And it just, it blows my mind that we're, we're in a, we're in a place where people are looking at this very bottom line thing and being like, yay, we did it. And I'm like, it's still terrible. It's really bad. Because I think a lot, people usually don't understand
Starting point is 00:49:26 the wealth redistribution when, like, when a tax cut hits like that for wealthy people, because it sort of, it becomes obscure and not sort of directly tangible. Why shouldn't they have access to their money? They should get the money, they earned it. I mean, they're doing a good job for our country. But the stuff around the healthcare and like SNAP benefits,
Starting point is 00:49:47 that's absolutely gonna be felt by people. And I think that's the part where you're like, if they don't give a fuck, they're really acting like they don't fear elections, which you're like. Right, yeah. Well, this is the other thing I've been thinking about too. And this is something I've been like thinking all week
Starting point is 00:50:04 with all of this. I'm going so many poor people voted in mind with this notion of like, this man's going to come in here and take it. And I'm going, he, these wealthy people don't care about you. They don't care. They don't care about your livelihood. They don't care if you eat, they don't care if you're well. And it just, it blows my mind that there are still so many people who are waking up every
Starting point is 00:50:26 day being like, yay, we're taking out the Dems. And I'm going, babe, they're literally coming for you too. Do you not get it? I just, it blows my mind. Well, I mean, that's the American way is we don't learn until we've put our hand on the stove, had a seventh degree burn, look at our charred hand down to the bone and go, was that hot? Hot, yeah, yeah, that's real.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Let me try one more time. Okay, yeah, okay, okay, hot, hot, hot, hot. But we haven't gone this far. And another hand? All right, now let's get your foot up there. All right, now let me cut open my head and put my brain on it. Yes, I just can't feel it. I hear it's delicious, little brain, according to Hannibal Lecter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:07 With a nice Chianti. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about the boo boo. American history is full of wise people. Well, women said something like, no, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is glory. Those founding fathers were gossipy AF and they love to cut each other down. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Hamilton pauses and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said, it would have been harder to fake it than to do it. Listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Don't miss the You vs. You podcast. Join Lex Borrero every week as he sits down with some of the biggest names in entertainment to talk about the real stuff, the struggles, the doubts, and the breakthroughs that made them who they are. They go deep, covering childhood
Starting point is 00:52:34 trauma, family, overcoming loss, and the moments that shape their journey. These honest conversations are meant to take the cape off our heroes with the hope that their humanity inspires you to become a better you and therefore set you free to live the life of your dreams. Here's a sneak peek. I'm trained to go compete. I'm trained to be like harder but sometimes that mentality stops you from stopping and smelling the flowers in your own garden. Is it wrong to want more? We migrated, our family migrated here. I'm like second generation. Listen to You Versus You as part of My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Just like great shoes, great books take you places. Through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget. I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies. I'm Danielle Robay, and this is Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, the new podcasts from Hello Sunshine and iHeart Podcasts. Every week I sit down with your favorite book lovers, authors, celebrities, book talkers, and more to explore the stories that shape us, on the
Starting point is 00:53:45 page and off. I've been reading every Reese's Book Club pick, deep-diving book talk theories, and obsessing over book-to-screen casts for years. And now, I get to talk to the people making the magic. So if you've ever fallen in love with a fictional character, or cried at the last chapter, or passed a book to a friend saying, you have to read this. This podcast is for you. Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club
Starting point is 00:54:10 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, Sophia Bush is here. Tell me how that feels to be a hot, considered a hot lesbian. Quite an honor. You know what's funny is you do this weird math.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Like if you're a woman dating men, nobody wants to talk to you about your sexuality. They just want to either say like you're a prude or a slut. If you date too much, they criticize you. If you don't date, you must be frigid, whatever. And then the thing that gets added when you're actually more fluid with your sexuality is the swing goes to, you better identify exactly who you are so we can figure out what name to call you. And it's like, okay.
Starting point is 00:54:55 And you know, I sort of looked around and was like, has nobody been paying attention to like all the hot girls I've been kissing on camera? You know, maybe not in front of you off camera, but hi, I've always been here. Listen to Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Two quick pop culture things. One, the new Jurassic Park movie's coming out. We had talked about this and how we had... I'll just say I had some hopes for it because the director directed some... First came on the scene for directing a low budget monster movie somehow, just using effects and creative camera placement to make a low budget movie about giant monsters and had since made some good films. And I was always like, this director seems destined to make a Jurassic Park movie. The movie's out, the reviews are tepid, and it's starting to make me wonder if just this franchise is just Jaws, but because at a time when studios were smarter,
Starting point is 00:56:12 and so like back then they were like, okay, Jaws 2, same shark come to same island, and like just eat people, basically run it back. At least they went to Sea World, you know? Yeah, they did go to Sea World and that was a good idea. And I would compare that to the only Jurassic Park sequel that I think really needed to exist, which was Jurassic World where like they were like,
Starting point is 00:56:37 okay, but what if the park was open? And it's like, that's actually a fucking fun idea. And everybody found out. The movie itself was like, but's actually a fucking fun idea. And everybody found out. The movie itself was like, eh, but that's a good premise and that made sense why people would go see that. This one, they're like, what if we just went to the island with some different people and there was some stuff there?
Starting point is 00:57:00 And the other thing they're getting away from, the whole point of these movies is like these iconic Characters from childhood when everybody like went through a phase with dinosaurs you were getting to see them So it's like the t-rex the Raptor the fucking like all all the ones that like people were obsessed with those kids and these Maybe keep just like inventing new fake dinosaurs and at that point it's like What the fuck are we even doing? Like that's not the point. The point is that it's in the t-rex over Just give me the t-rex like why do we need to yeah, we're tell me about some obscure one But this was like well the Raptors are in a gang with Chris Pratt and you're right
Starting point is 00:57:43 Modified Raptors, you know, I just want like real deal Raptors. Like I want to know more about them. Look at the sex it's throwing up. Like, no. These have been made hyper intelligent and they don't actually look like real Raptors would because we've like hyper charged. And it's like, well, then you're just like making
Starting point is 00:58:01 a fucking monster movie, which is less fun. That's where they miss out. Yeah, I think that's where everyone gets further and further from like what the Michael Crichton kind of version of it is. Like also a critique on like, I don't know, it sounds bad trying to play God too. Or maybe it's, hey, don't invite your nephews
Starting point is 00:58:20 to a theme park on opening weekend because it can go left really quickly. I don't know. But so the Metacritic, so this is all based on critics who have seen the film. And it's in the dumps. Yeah, 46 critics who've seen it so far on Metacritic are giving it a 52.
Starting point is 00:58:36 And also Rotten Tomatoes is at a 52. So big fail by the studio not paying Rotten Tomatoes because usually Rotten Tomatoes will be a lot higher than Metacritic because they've paid the Rotten Tomatoes meter to be like, that feels fresh-ish for like a two-star review. Yeah, you know? It's like trying to wear like underwear for the third day and they're like, you might, you might. Fresh, fresh-ish, fresh adjacent,-ish. Fresh adjacent. Fresh-ish. Fresh adjacent. Do they say anything about beloved Asian American actress Scarlett Johansson's performance?
Starting point is 00:59:09 That is one thing that I know, it's one of the reasons I'm excited about it is because getting some diversity in there and getting an Asian American actress in the legal. I mean, look, when she was in Ghost in the Shell, I was like like there she is Finally some representation for my Japanese people on this. Yeah, man. You know, they did give her like straight to dark black hair Represents black people too. I love everyone. Yeah, that's what I'm those people who ever made that decision to cast her there They need to be banished from Hollywood. She's the world, she's the children.
Starting point is 00:59:45 She's the one to make the part of Blake. I believe that ScarJo is the future. You see the new black and white video, it's Scarlett Johansson, but she's doing new hairstyles and shit and skin complexion. She's black, she's white. Whoa, she got dreadlocks. She's love, dude, say yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, we have an esteemed expert on to talk Labooboo. Yeah. It's the biggest fad in the world right now. It has all the hallmarks of, you know, the two big hallmarks would be fights in stores or at least alleged fights in stores and just a whole lot of mistrust from the Christian community. But this Labooboo dolls kind of look like our writer,
Starting point is 01:00:28 Jam described them as looking like if Maurice Sendak got drunk and tried to draw Willem Dafoe. Like they really are like a combination Willem Dafoe and like the wild things from where the wild thing. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, the blind box of it all, a lot of TikTok endorsements from Lisa, Rihanna, Cher, all the one named people. And Labooboo's, there's a giant Labooboo protesting ICE in LA.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Oh, please don't make that the Pikachu of these protests. They're like, is Labooboo at the event? How do we know? Let's rally around Labooboo. The black market is booming. Another sign that we have a general cultural phenomenon on our hands. Lafoofoo's as previously mentioned.
Starting point is 01:01:21 And yeah, they, like, I don't like, like I said, some reports of public fights in stores, which is, you know, you know, the local news gets excited about that. Oh yeah. But the biggest controversy involves the accusations that they're pure evil, which as I said, when I first found out about them, like a couple of weeks ago, I think they, I think that is their appeal. I think they are the first genuine Cabbage Patch kid style craze that is openly courting the creepy doll side of things.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Creepy dolls are an underrated phenomenon. They are secretly the engine behind the Annabelle or the Conjuring franchise. Like that is a creepy doll franchise. A lot of people don't realize that. But I don't know. When my seven-year-old first told me about it, by the way, he was like, yeah, I saw like one of the kids has one. And when I looked at it, it turned to me, turned its head to me and it looked up at me and it gave me a creepy smile. I was like, okay. Is that because other kids are trying to me, turned its head to me, and it looked up at me and it gave me a creepy smile. I was like, mm-hmm. Okay. Is that because other kids are trying to like, that's the thing is like, did you see the
Starting point is 01:02:30 little doll acting up? Yeah, I just think he is sensing the evil that the Christians are saying. He's a very Christian child. And, you know, he, he recognizes evil when he sees it. No, I think he's probably reacting to the fact that I am crying every time I see one and saying that they're evil. He might be teasing me and being like, yeah, dad, I saw one. It looked at me and gave me a creepy smile. But there's an exorcist who came out and told people that these are demonic toys that should not be purchased by Christians.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Well, I'm not a Christian, so send them all to me! There you go. We will take and de-Satanify your Labooboos. You know what? Surviving in this world, everything is Satanic. So I'm OK. I feel like I will be fine with a little boo boo in my house. Yeah. I will also say this. So what a lot of people don't know is that they come from there's a world they're called the monsters. So they're little monsters and they're meant to do good stuff. They just sometimes don't always do the right thing, right?
Starting point is 01:03:40 They're just they're cute. And so they're sour patch kids. Huh? They're sour patch kids. They basically are sour patch kids. Yeah. Yeah I, I don't know. So they're Sour Patch Kids. Huh? They're Sour Patch Kids. They basically are Sour Patch Kids, yeah. Yeah. That's fine. That's what they are. That's fine. That's fine. I don't see what the problem is. Where's this evidence that it's evil? Is it just made of, where is it in the
Starting point is 01:03:54 scripture about Labooboo and how Christ fought Labooboo? I'm sorry. Did you not see the exorcist? I'm just checking if you've not seen the film The Exorcist. So that is Pazuzu. You switch a couple letters around though. Okay. There is no P in Labooboo. It's ridiculous. No, very close to P. B, not really close to Z, but like, unless the alphabet is on a circle. Yeah. Yeah. yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:25 So Pazuzu, Labubu, I don't need to connect the dots for you. You can do that yourself. I'm just saying do your own research. Right. The demon that possessed Linda Blair in the Exorcist was named Pazuzu. Also a ridiculous name. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:41 How did they get away with that? Yeah. How did they get away with being like Pazuzu? like what if I was that character I'd be like damn Pazuzu that's like the weakest name for a demon why is that truly Pazuzu I guess there is like in Pazuzu sounds like it sounds like you're a regular at BJ's brewery and you're like you know how we're ending this one chocolate chip Pazuzu for us. Right. You mean the Pazuki?
Starting point is 01:05:06 The Pazuki. We call them Pazuzus around here. Alright. In this household. Your mother sucks cock in hell. We call them Pazuzus around here. Stupid. But yeah, so one thing that's been going viral is a Labouboo side by side with an illustration of Pazuzu that is imp
Starting point is 01:05:27 implying like this is what Pazuzu has always looked like. This is the, this is actually the illustration that's in the Bible. And it's actually just picture book, the Bible, the Bible. Oh, Pazuzu in the Bible is in the Bible for sure. And by that it's not. Not. Yeah. Yeah. So the drawing that they've made to like, look like an ancient etching is actually just AI generated. And the smiling Pazuzu was clearly specifically designed to look like one of the dolls. So, yeah. And when you look at what the Pazuzu like ancient art that depicts Pazuzu, it just, it looks like the face from the exorcist, which is
Starting point is 01:06:06 scary but does not look like a libubu. People are saying that the artist who originally created the libubu was drawing on Norse mythology. So if you're a Christian who believes that anything that's not Christianity is evil and pagan, who calls everything that's not Christian pagan, then there you might have an argument. But in that case, literally everything, including most of the traditions around Christmas, are pagan. And the Santa is also the devil too.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Yes. But I mean, those kinds of Christians typically do keep it a buck in that way. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like, no Santa here, but then, you know, there's love. That's who you're getting in with. Them and my seven-year-old. Those are your peers. What's the resell market like for a Labooboo, JP?
Starting point is 01:07:03 So, okay, so let's talk about it. It depends on what you're going for. Right now, what I know is that the ID, there's one called Big Into Energy, it is the ID version, it is a black one. The big what? Big Into Energy, it's a black one. It's only one in 72 people get it when you do a blind box.
Starting point is 01:07:26 That one's going for at least, at least $400 to $500 on the resale market. You can't possibly pay that much for just some fabric and oh yeah, I've done that for shoes before. Yeah, I've done it for other. I have a brandy. You get a pair of LeBubu's you can wear. Right. Are they red bottoms like my real LeBubu's? Louboutins? Right, real Louvazouzou's. Louboutins. Yeah. But yeah, so that one, there's also another brown one
Starting point is 01:07:54 from the Macaroon series that's also a blind box item. And that one can probably run you somewhere between 100 to $200. Okay. Do you go outside with your little boo-boos? Are you using them as, I see them as bag charms. I see some people just have them stacked on a rack and they're like, look at my children.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Yeah, well, I mean, yes and no. So I have four behind me that just kind of sit there. Five actually, that sit behind me. And then I have another six or seven that are upstairs on my different bags that I have. I have a whole bunch of different Louis bags that I, and I color coordinate. I knew we came to the right place.
Starting point is 01:08:27 I knew we came to the right place. Break it down. I have some, they're all color coordinated. So whatever color my bag is, is the color of the Louis that I have on my bag. And do they match your nails? Cause your nail game is. They do not match, well yes,
Starting point is 01:08:39 I have two that match my nails. Those are from the big, those are from the big into energy series. Next question, JP, how long have you been possessed by Satan as a result of surrounding yourself by so many demonic nodes of energy? Baby, it was when I came out. Because I'm of the game. So I've been possessed since I was a child. Connection? Yeah, the connection is being at the gaze.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Candace Cameron, get in here. If we can get Candace Cameron on to just like pull this clip and put it on her podcast. That would actually be tremendous for us. The reason, yeah, that, that gayness is the reason why the boo boo is, is, is, have you seen these LeBoo boo's that they're trying to sell our kids or our children?
Starting point is 01:09:20 Obviously the accusations of Satanism, much like heavy metal in the late eighties, accusations of Satanism, much like heavy metal in the late 80s, accusations of Satanism are making the sales absolutely fucking skyrocket. Because America, in this case, has always been obsessed with things that are a little bit evil and demonic. But also, we love a fucking cursed doll. I don't know how many times I have to say it. Huge booming eBay market for haunted dolls. People have like bid over a thousand dollars for haunted dolls. Right now Annabelle, the real life doll that inspired the Conjuring
Starting point is 01:09:55 movies, which is a Raggedy Annie doll, I believe. Yeah, Raggedy Ann. Is touring America and rumors that she went missing and possibly burned down a mansion turned out to be false. But look, I need leaders in this time who are about class consciousness. So I agree. What I learned on the curb is that she also is the reason why those men in Louisiana escaped from New Orleans.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Those 10 inmates, they said that. I absolutely believe that 100%. She was there, I don't know why she was there, but the day that she got there is the same day that those men escaped. So it sounds like she's a anti-capitalist, prison abolitionist. Prison abolitionist. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:10:42 We stan, we stan Annabelle. I'm getting it tatted. we stan Annabelle. I'm getting it tatted. The real Annabelle. We stan a queen who knows her rights. I was going to get a Marcus Garvey tattoo, but now I'm going to get an Annabelle tattoo. Annabelle. Yeah. Annabelle is our queen.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Mothers out here freeing the people. That's right. Annabelle sounds like Harriet Tubman if you ask me. I'm sure I could rearrange some letters here to get it to work like I did with Pazuzu. In Harriet Tubman and the Boo Boo, yes. That's a movie. Somebody needs to write that script.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Mm-hmm. You better watch out. Someone will probably make that shameless. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. Well, Dr. John Paul Higgins, as always, such a pleasure having you. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?
Starting point is 01:11:26 Well, these days you can find me ducking and dodging donut places because I gotta keep my sugar under watch. But other than that, you can find me at Dr. John Paul on all socials except X. I'm there, so I will say this, because people are like, you say you're not on there, but you're on there.
Starting point is 01:11:43 I am on X because I don't want anyone taking my at, but I don't use it. So I just want to make sure that I make that very clear that I only have it so that way folks won't take it from me. But other than that, I'm active on Blue Sky, I'm active on threads, and I'm very active on Spill, which is my preferred social media place these days. There you go. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Yes. So there is a thread that someone posted a couple of days ago. Their name is Dani Crotura. I think that's how you say it.
Starting point is 01:12:16 It's K-R-I-A-Tura. T-U-R-A. And she basically says she probably went and got the bears deported afterwards too. And it is a picture of Goldilocks drinking all the porridge. The first example of white privilege you learn about. And it's Goldilocks drinking all the porridge. Gets away with that shit. Gets away with it. You know what? I wish you were you right. I didn't even think about this shit, right?
Starting point is 01:12:47 This idea that this girl breaking and entering ate all they fucking porridge, slept in their bed. Went to sleep in their fucking bed. And then turn around and said, ah, just right. The personification of gentrification. This bitch ran up in these bears' home and gentrified their homes. In their homes.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Mm, mm, mm. Spread love, it's the bear way. Yeah, the bear way. So that sent me to the moon. So yeah, that's where I'm at. Miles, where can people find you? Is there work immediate you've been enjoying? And also, those bears woulda mauled the fuck outta her.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Oh yeah. But she's protected, okay, cause she's mauled the fuck out of her. Oh, yeah. But she's protected. OK, because she's pretty little gold. OK. Yeah, I'm starting to see. And same shit with Snow White. Snow White went in, broke into their house, cleaned up a little bit instead of stealing their food, but then just passed out in their bed.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Literally. And the dwarves came in like, bitch. They were about to. They had a fucking pickaxe original like an inch from her head And then she happened to roll over in her sleep and be cute and they were like well she could say all right Okay, we like her. Yeah, you can find me everywhere at miles of gray you can find I mean look miles and jack on madies. The last episode was last week. You can check that out. And then there will be no more Mad Boosties.
Starting point is 01:14:08 In fact, there is no more Mad Boosties after that. And then there was none. If you like 90 Day Fiance, catch me talking about that on 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra. A post I like, friend of the show Alex Steed at alexsteed.beastguy.social posted, Instagram is like,
Starting point is 01:14:22 I see you're liking some emotional content. Can I interest you in a succession of deeply unqualified influencers speaking authoritatively about attachment styles with performed expertise? Yeah, yeah, you can, you can. I do like that. Yes, please. I will have that. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Could I just, could I have just that? I don't want the emotionally resonant content anymore. I just want that. And then another one from the at to love a Mariner dot B Sky dot social, the to love a Mariner podcast posted, among other things, I'm just so pissed that a country that once made winning World War two, its whole personality is now building concentration camps. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Yeah, it's giving them fun names. Yeah. It's like, it's like, it's like, we didn't actually win World War two. Yeah, we didn't. But we certainly did make it our personality. Yeah. It's like, it's like, it's like we didn't actually win the World Cup. Yeah, we didn't. But we certainly did make it our personality. Yeah. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien on blue sky at Jack OB the number one. I've been enjoying Las Culturistas, the podcast, and specifically they just announced the nominees for their culture awards for 2025 and they're super fun. Go check it out either on their YouTube channel, which just dropped or on their podcast, which is a medium where you can just
Starting point is 01:15:33 listen to the audio of a video for some reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyways, a lot of fun. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode, wherever you're listening to it, and there you will find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode.
Starting point is 01:15:57 There in the footnotes, we also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, is there a song that you think the people might enjoy? Yes, this algorithm suggested this track to me is from a DJ producer named Zulan, Z-U-L-A-N. I was like, oh, this is interesting. I'm like, I want to look up this artist. And then all I found on the internet, they're like, Zulan is an industry plant. Her mom was like the president of the recording academy. And I'm like, okay, Jesus Christ What's the deal? This track is called campaign. She's Argentinian and this is I kind of got a bit of like sampling some Argentinian music
Starting point is 01:16:35 But then kind of houseifying it in a way that I thought it was danceable Nepo baby industry plant or not. So this is campaign by Zulan amazing We will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeart Radio for more podcasts from iHeart Radio. Visit the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you listen to your favorite shows that is going to do it for us this morning. And we'll be back this afternoon to tell you what is trending and we will talk to you all then. Bye. Bye.
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