The Daily Zeitgeist - Ambien Debate Trendergy 7/22: Malcolm Jamal Warner, Ozzy Osbourne, Charlie XCX, 'Fantastic Four', ICE Raids, George Clooney
Episode Date: July 22, 2025In this edition of Ambien Debate Trendergy, Jack and Miles discuss the passing of Malcolm Jamal Warner and Ozzy Osbourne, the shortest day of the year, Charlie XCX marrying a bald guy, the release of ...the new 'Fantastic Four' movies, an ICE raid update, George Clooney breaking up Tenacious D? and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello the internet and welcome to this episode of Ambien Debate Trendergy.
That one courtesy of Grossfacekiller got that.
Gotta just pop my pre-debate ambi trend.
Dude, we shouldn't do that now.
We shouldn't do that now do an episode on ambient
yeah yeah i'm not you know what i'll do it you should do it i'm the chemical again no no no no
no you never it's a sober man i i shouldn't not even as a sober man as someone who has like actual
self-respect beyond that broadly uh who's not completely debased themselves on the internet like I have yeah, I just don't god just
just thinking about that and I do three mountain dews right as we're just like shotgun them right
as we're about to record that episode is so bad go from like fucking manic to just super depressive
oh yeah sleeping on mic they're like you got the Fenty bend you just off that fatty I
Said Fenty. Yeah. Nah. Well that will be an episode so bad. The listeners will get diarrhea from listening
That's guaranteed. I really do wish that
Film critics would have the courage to start to say movies movies give you diarrhea
I'm a st. Only her majesty. All right real quick
in a reality I've completely manufactured
and it still confuses her to this day,
why I think it's funny.
We got a couple RIPs to give out.
Damn, yeah.
Fucking Malcolm Jamal Warner really hit me hard.
You told me at the top of tomorrow's episode about that
and I am still recovering.
That fucked me up.
Beloved, beloved Malcolm Jamal Warner. Yeah.
He has to wait.
My guy, um,
the older brother I never had, like he was so like people are like,
Bill Cosby was like all of our dad, but not really. First of all,
pervert. Second of all, uh, we didn't know that at the time.
But much funnier than most people's dads.
But Theo was just really was, I don't know, man.
That's a really hard one to take.
Really loved Theo.
Yeah, he, it's wild.
I've been to this area where he passed away in Costa Rica.
It's in Limon, which is on the Caribbean side
of Costa Rica. And- Just riptide. Which is dope too Rica. It's in Limon, which is on the Caribbean side of Costa Rica.
And- Just rip ties.
Which is dope too, cause it's kind of like,
it's the black part of Costa Rica.
Like a majority of like the black people are descendant from,
like people who descended from African slaves and shit
from that area, they live on the Caribbean side.
So it has like this Caribbean flavor
that's very different to the Pacific side of the country.
Anyway, I remember the first time I went there a
Local who was surfing was like be careful a person died yesterday out there
They're like you don't swim out there because the riptide is so fucked up and people are now saying like that's pretty much what happened
Like they're like he got pulled out in a riptide and he couldn't swim anymore
Super fucked up. Sorry to hear it. It's really horrible. And then Ozzy Osbourne also earlier today passed away at the age of 76, just weeks after
the farewell. He was 76?
I know, man. Oh, I thought he was so much older.
Yeah, so much older. Wow. I mean, but again, that's what a life
of living, living, cranking the life up to 11 on the old amp will do to you.
I thought you were going to say, live in La Vida Loca.
I was like, wrong artist.
You know Ozzy?
Live in La Vida Loca.
Slightly different recording artist.
Yeah, maybe.
I always mix the two up, Ricky Martin and Ozzy.
The ambient debate thing, I don't know if people missed this morning's episode, Joe
Biden's son said that the reason he fucked up that debate was he took an ambient before. Oh, the ambient debate thing. I don't know if people missed this morning's episode. Joe Biden
son said that the reason he fucked up that debate was he took an ambient before.
And by that he meant like three days before a week before even. Yeah. Well, whatever.
I get it, man. You got to defend your dad, especially he's at your back. So you got to have his. That's true. But you're wrong, Hunter. You're wrong. But he's like adding substance use
to his dad's story. He's like, man, man dude I pulled that guy out of an ambient house. You should have seen him
bro he was fucking folded up like a fucking deck chair off the Fetty okay
and I had to bring him back to like Evanescence man I was like give me that
blow real quick. Save me. Save me from this. Nothing I've become.
Did you watch you watch the rehearsal, right?
Yeah.
You got to do that.
That episode.
Incredible.
That is really like one of those moments in pop culture where they
like replay an old song that I had just like written off as like
that's some shit that would like come on the radio every day in high
school and I would just be like this shit again and then like hearing it again in the radio every day in high school. And I would just be like, oh, this shit again.
And then like hearing it again in the context of the Sully story,
I'm like, this shit fucking goes.
This is so funny.
On the way back to the terribly Jurassic Park induced diarrhea
showing that Hermes and I went to, that song came up on the radio
and she looks over and she's like, this is how Sully landed the plane.
She said so earnestly to me.
Like.
That's like you driving me home and trying to get me there
in time for my massive diarrhea.
For my Jurassic Park induced bowel issues.
Well, we are gonna talk about the Fantastic Four movie
because the reviews are in and and they're kind of good.
They're clearing a very low bar.
I'm very confused by this Fantastic Four movie
for a couple reasons that we will talk about.
Up first, real fun little piece of conversation
that you can use if you hear this on July 22nd.
Did you know today is actually,
it's the second shortest day of the year.
Well,
not just not because of like where we're at in the solar calendar,
but because apparently our days are not a uniform length.
Like I thought the earth rotated like clockwork.
This shit is just like messy with it. I want to refund.
It doesn't rotate like clockwork. It does not rotate.
I don't want to live on this fucking shit hole.
The difference today will be 1.34 milliseconds
fewer than the standard 24 hours, which is good for the second shortest day of this year.
The shortest is actually coming up in August. We'll be sure to alert you when that's going to happen.
Oh, that's just the shortest one rotation of the planet.
Because I'm thinking, aren't the days longer in the summer?
And I'm just thinking of daylight
rather than the actual day itself.
But they're speeding up.
I'm stupid.
Wait, are we going faster?
The day, the Earth is rotating so much faster that they're going to need to subtract a
second from the atomic clock around 2029. Oh, fuck. This kind of blew my mind that
Earth's day like used to be 19 hours long, like a long, long time ago, like pre-humans, but due to balance between solar atmospheric tides
and lunar ocean tides have slowed it down and sped it up.
But it's not uniform.
That kind of fucked me up.
I was not ready for that information.
19 hours, yeah.
Today's news cycle came through like a fucking tornado.
Just ripped me up. Came through like a fucking tornado. Just ripped me up.
Came through like a Jurassic Park screening.
Just tore my digestive tract up.
Yeah.
All right.
Big news in the bald community.
Oh, you speak on behalf of our community?
I'm just saying what I'm seeing.
And you're just lurking.
You're like one of those white people who goes on Black People
Comedy or Black People Twitter on Reddit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, oh, this shit kind of funny. This is funny.
I report I'm the scribe for the middle-aged white guy meeting that I go to. Yeah. Yeah. Oh,
what's going on in our bald Jack? Can you give us an update? So big news. Mass massive W for bald community, colon. Charlie XCX marries bald guy.
That's the headline.
It's a picture of Charlie XCX with her bald husband.
He's not a short king, just a bald king.
He appears to be pretty tall.
So the description under the image says,
I mean, sure, the groom, Greg Daniel, which I think
it's George Daniel, plays in a famous band and whatever.
But that doesn't change the fact that Charlie XCX married a bald guy.
Just a little inspiration post.
Being bald does not stop you from marrying a baddie like Charlie XCX.
Her husband is the drummer for the band, the 1975,
which on the one hand you might be like, well,
so clearly it's not just like some bald guy.
On the other, when you look at the band, the 1975,
I'm only seeing one person with a receding hairline
or who's bald, everybody else has nice big, thick
heads of hair.
So she did marry the one bald guy from that band
Yeah, I thought Matt Healy was the real catch in that group
That's right. I remember that whole thing. That was the guy that Taylor Swift
So the lead singer of the 1975 was the guy that Taylor Swift dated who was like racist. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Oh, well, it's funny.
I was reading through the posts, like the comments on that post and it's a
mixture of people being like, yeah, of course.
Like some people were like, I love my husband's bald.
I think it's the sexiest thing ever.
And there are some people like, doesn't even matter.
Even if you're like bald, there's be some guy with a better hairline and then
people are going to like them better.
And I'm like, no, I don't see when she leaves him for somebody with an amazing hairline and then people are going to like them better. And I'm like, no, don't worry baby. We'll see when she leaves him for somebody with an amazing hairline.
Damn it. Beautiful hair. No, man. Doesn't matter. We're out here. We're thriving.
The thing I like here is just a community of people celebrating. Post-NWs.
Yeah. Post-NWs being like, hell yeah. Yeah. Congratulations, King. You got to.
You got to.
You got to.
You know, especially in a society that treats anything other than what they dictate as the
norm as being bad.
Yeah, baby.
We're out here.
We're out here and we're with Charlie XCX and we're with Her Majesty despite the Jurassic
Park-induced diarrhea.
Did you post your dub?
When you, your wedding picture?
Were you like, fellas?
Because that is another thing that you see in the subreddit
is a lot of people being like,
hey guys, it's okay to be bald again.
And like pictures, it's like date night
and it's like a bald guy with like an attractive woman.
Nah, there's another one.
I do a bald circle jerk, that subreddit where it's,
Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So the fantastic four movie came out.
A lot of people thought this franchise was cursed. Um, we're just fantastic.
Is it not movies have not done particularly well, like they were bad in the era when
superhero movies were traditionally bad. Um. And then they were also bad.
Like they made one with Josh Trank, the guy who made that movie.
Chronicle. Chronicle. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So like he was all hot shit because that movie was like a massive hit.
And he was like one of the youngest people to have like a multi
hundred million dollar blockbuster as a director under the age.
It was like him, Spielberg and like one other like all time
great director.
And so people were like, this guy's the next big thing.
So they gave him his next movie was the Fantastic Four movie and
did not go well.
And it had like Michael B.
Jordan and like a bunch of good actors.
And it just was not-
Miles Teller was in it.
And I was like, oh, this is, sorry y'all.
Miles Teller is not a superhero, but go ahead.
Go ahead. You try that.
Anyways, this one-
Oh, it has a nine on Rodden.
It has a 9% on Rodden.
The Trank one?
Yeah.
This is what they do though in Hollywood
is they take a young director
who does something really good with a smaller budget.
And then they immediately make them a sacrificial lamb to do a huge blockbuster that when it becomes
a failure, they can be like, I don't know, dude, we thought that was a guy.
I mean, like, it can't be us.
I mean, it's just some people can do like Steven Spielberg started in like making a
low budget made for TV movie about a truck that like chases people around.
And then they gave them a bigger budget
movie like two movies later and it was jaws, you know, so it's just some people are up
to it.
Different era.
But anyways, this one is so I'm a little how you say suspicious of the reviews here because
this is one of the widest gaps we've seen between the Rotten Tomato Meter and Metacritic. So
on the Tomato Meter, it's like 88%. The Tomometer? The Tomometer. Yeah, Tomometer. 88%, which
would seem to be like the fucking line up the Oscars. Yeah. On Metacritic, it's at 66%.
Wait, but so who's on Rotten Tomatoes at this point?
Because it's not view, it's just critics, right?
It's the same critics.
It's how you interpret their review.
Right.
Oh, right, because one of the studios owns Rotten Tomatoes,
like owns it.
I believe so.
I remember us talking about that, yeah.
And also, I'm pretty sure that they can you know, they advertise all over rotten tomatoes
so right pretty sure there it wouldn't be shocking to me if
They were asking them to like put their thumb a little bit on the scale to be like this one seems
Like a positive review two stars is good. It's not one star
and
So they're getting a strong Toma Toma to my daughter. Thank you. Score.
I don't know. We've heard from people who've seen it that it's pretty boring. The movie has
always felt to me like it was meant to be. I don't know. So the one, like one of the best
superhero movies yet made is a fantastic four movie in everything except name, which is The Incredibles, you
know, and The Incredibles 2. That's basically the Fantastic Four. And this felt like when
they started releasing the trailers for this, it felt like they were doing it as like, and
we've given an auteur filmmaker. Like I was like, this must be Brad Bird, like making
the movie. Like the whole thing like felt very, I don't know, like it was a Wes Anderson superhero movie or something.
It had a very specific look.
It took place in the 50s in an alternate universe.
But it's just some guy.
The filmmaker is not a great filmmaker who's like, you know, been nominated for Oscars or something
is just like kind of a workaday filmmaker. So I do wonder if like the original idea was
to I think Brad Bird was like, rumored to be connected to a Fantastic Four movie. So
I wonder if like that was the original pitch. And then they're just like, well, you know,
we got Todd Phillips to direct like a Martin Scorsese
Joker movie.
So if we can do it with the guy who made the hangover,
maybe we can do like an auteur movie with somebody
who's not an auteur director.
They're just not in the era of the kinds of superheroes
that people want to see.
They're just so old school.
They're like, and this motherfucker made of rocks.
Give a shit. Oh yeah. Man.
And like, as I remember, I went to see the 2005 one only because I was in love with Jessica
Alba. Yeah, absolutely. That's what got me in there. I'm like, I want to see Jessica
Alba. And then I was like, all right, well, you know what? This movie gave me diarrhea.
So I'm gonna leave and I'll never watch a Fantastic Four movie again. It's just, it's that simple. One thing on the 4th of July over my house,
they were skywriting fours for,
but like they kept fucking it up.
I saw that shit too, yeah.
For the first like three times.
And so like it looked like they were trying
to do a Nazi symbol or something.
Like it was like.
It was the circle with like one line going through.
You're like, where are you going with this?
Yeah, they do like a circle with one line
and then didn't like finish it.
And I was like, what the fuck is happening?
And then eventually, like they got good at it.
But it was like, we're I've never seen it.
Usually those things are like, I don't know, they seem like they're done
with computers or something because they're so precise.
And this one, it really felt like they just like hired a guy who was like,
yeah, I can make a four in a circle.
Yeah. You want to form a circle?
I'll knock that shit out.
This is ground control. Those look like swastikas, man. What are you doing? Wait, what are you? Sorry. What was what's the gig? Exactly. Sorry. I think I should have asked.
They were fours. All right. Okay. I don't know. I don't know how to draw that.
I should have been upfront about that. I'm going to need you to be like left down.
Just tell me when to turn. All right. Now? Now? All right. I'm just going to do a swastika.
That's what I normally do.
That's kind of my thing. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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And we're back. And the horrifying news about ICE kidnappings and concentration camps keeps rolling in.
There's one particularly awful story where, again, just completely disorganized, they kidnap people
and then have no idea what happened to the people.
Yeah.
And also don't give a fuck about the fact
that they have no idea.
They're not like trying to solve that problem.
No, it's almost that they like relish
in how fucking chaotic the whole thing is
because it just makes people more,
like just traumatizes multiple people.
With this one neat trick,
you can traumatize generations of families
by being like, what happened?
I don't know, I don't think we arrested that guy.
And then be like, hold on, let me check.
Oh, he died.
Right.
Like what in the fuck?
This is specifically about an 82 year old
who was kidnapped on his way to the immigration office
to replace his green card he lost.
Yeah.
Again, because they're like, oh, there's papers on the card.
It's like going to the DMV to renew your license.
Yeah.
Or not even renew, just replace it.
Yeah, you already got it.
You're just like, hey, man, can you cook me up another one?
Yeah, Luis Leon, who was granted political asylum from escaping Pinochet ended up somehow in Guatemala, which
a country he has nothing to do with because again, we're disappearing people to third countries,
like fucking like their concentration camps. Yeah. So left Chile in 1987. Yeah. No criminal
record going to replace his lost green card and is taken to Guatemala and is in a hospital now.
Right. But it's only because his relatives in Chile were able to figure out where he was.
Because when their family here was calling, someone fucking was like,
I'm an immigration lawyer. Let me look at my files. That person is died.
Yes.
And they were like, what the fuck? And then they had to just do their own fucking investigation
essentially to figure out where this person went.
And stories like this are just constantly,
there were just getting more and more,
there's stuff about alligator Alcatraz,
how it's just becoming like a mosquito swamp den,
and all the conditions are terrible.
The people who have been like forced to eat like animals in like a Miami ice detention
facility.
Yeah.
The migrant detention facilities in Miami are like hot hands tied behind their back
and their food is just put on a styrofoam plate on a chair in front of them.
That's how they're making them live. People are being thrown into overcrowded rooms.
One group of people was just kept on a bus in blistering heat for 24 hours with one toilet
and their hands tied the whole time, like men and women together, and one clogged toilet. So the whole thing just like reeked for 24 hours. And again,
for committing the crime of existing seeming foreign to the race police is essentially
where we're at. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, like the more and more and more lawmakers
in Florida are definitely like calling out how absolutely fucked up
alligator Alcatraz is and like these other facilities but yeah I think also
like to just so much of the discourse I think I don't know and maybe as a
benefit to Trump is like on the Epstein stuff too that like all this other stuff
is just continuing despite him trying to get everyone's attention on the other
things yeah he wants he's, but remember I'm racist.
Remember that part.
No one gives me credit for that.
Right.
We've got another piece of information that came out,
possibly unreliable, but from that Hunter Biden interview
with the Andrew Callahan guy.
So in that interview, the interviewer Andrew Callahan suggests that George Clooney was
secretly behind Tenacious D's breakup.
So it's not Hunter Biden breaking the news, but he said that his only famous friend is
Jack Black, who once told him that after Kyle Gass joked about Trump's assassination at
a concert in Australia, he got a text from Clooney saying that if he didn't break up with gas and
denounce the joke, he'd be quote out, which I don't know if that's like out of
the movie industry, out of the shadowy cabal of Hollywood elites, but
yeah,
out of the celebrities who stream on Twitch. Yeah.
Uh, okay. That just such a weird one.
I know.
It is very weird.
What is that even, like why would, I don't know.
Part of me is like, huh?
The fuck does George Clooney have to do with this?
I mean, I know that they're like,
well, George Clooney was the one
that helped get Biden out the box.
Yeah, I think that's how they got on the subject.
And then Andrew Callahan was like, I kind kind of know Jack Black and like he told me
kind of that like this thing happened where he like when he made that joke.
So I don't know if it's the most reliable piece of information.
The way he said it is, he tells us anecdote about Jack Black and then he said, quote,
George Clooney is blowing his phone up being like, if you don't kick your band member out
of the band and like publicly denounce this guy, like, I don't know what the consequences were, but it was kind of like, you're out.
Out of what? We don't know. And so his hand was basically forced to be like, oh, sorry, my band member is serious mental health problems. We're breaking up the band for now. The tour is canceled.
That's okay.
Okay
It's such a weird Odd detail that I'm like, I don't even it's so it seems so inconsequential and also my cool
So what are you saying? George Clooney controls the Hollywood like the flow of money in Hollywood?
I mean, that's a man. You said it not me, you know
Hold on and getting a knock at my door, but someone's covering the peephole on my door. Let me let me get closer
Can you move your hand?
Also just hunter yeah, so hunter Biden just went on a rant about Clooney first
He said I don't have to be fucking nice number one. I agree with Quentin Tarantino fucking George Clooney is not a fucking actor
He is a fucking like I don't know what he is. He's a brand. And by the
way, and God bless him, you know what? He supposedly treats his family really well.
He buys them things and he's got a really great place in Lake Como and he's great friends
with Barack Obama. Fuck you. What do you have to do with fucking anything? Why do I have
to fucking listen to you? So it's like he's got two wolves inside of him.
And one of them like says that for a lot and is mad at George Clooney.
And the other one is Joe Biden.
Yeah. You know, really,
well, cocaine is a hell of a drug.
Joe Biden. Wait, this let me.
Yeah, that's the other thing that is going viral out of that interview
where Andrew Callahan's like, so like, what's the difference between cocaine
and crack and like how they hit different and Hunter Biden's like, ah, I don't want to, it's like he's
like a werewolf trying not to turn into a werewolf. I don't know why you buying. No, this is, this is
like a quick sound bite. Oh wait, no, this isn't the Andrew Callahan. This is another one that he's
talking about. I love George Clooney's movies, but i don't really give a shit what he thinks about who should be
the nominee for the democratic party okay yeah that's from a different
interview that's a little more that's a little more measured
a little more hunter biden he wasn't with the bros on that one
all right well those are some of the things that are trending
on this shortest second shortest day of 2025, July 22nd.
We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves,
get your vaccines where you still can, get your flu shots.
Don't do nothing about white supremacy
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So what happened at Chappaquiddick?
Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
There are many versions of what happened in 1969
when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond.
And left a woman behind to drown.
Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death
and how the Kennedy machine took control.
Every week, we go behind the headlines
and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
Listen to United States of Kennedy
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, a different type of podcast. You the listener, ask the
questions.
Did George Washington really cut down a cherry tree?
Were JFK and Marilyn Monroe having an affair?
And I find the answers. I'm so glad you asked me this
question.
This is such a ridiculous story. You can listen to American history hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2020, a group of young women found themselves in
an AI fueled nightmare. Someone was posting photos. It was just me naked.
Well, not me, but me with someone else's body parts.
This is Levittown, a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts,
Bloomberg, and Kaleidoscope,
about the rise of deepfake pornography
and the battle to stop it.
Listen to Levittown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast.
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