The Daily Zeitgeist - America Invented Election Meddling, Diddy To Buy An NFL Team? 12.19.17

Episode Date: December 20, 2017

In episode 51, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Maggie Maye to discuss TJ Miller, the Panthers owner, Diddy, plus super producer Anna comes on to discuss America's meddling in other countries g...overnments, tax bill, Tom Delonge & UFO's, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. woman had done before, tried to assassinate the President of the United States. One was the protege of Charles Manson. 26-year-old Lynette Fromm, nicknamed Squeaky. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer, this season on the new podcast, Rip Current. Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeart True Crime Plus, only on Apple Podcasts. I'm Dr. Laurie Santos, host of the Happiness Lab podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:15 As the U.S. elections approach, it can feel like we're angrier and more divided than ever. But in a new, hopeful season of my podcast, I'll share what the science really shows, that we're surprisingly more united than most people think. We all know something is wrong in our culture, in our politics, and that we need to do better and that we can do better. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey, I'm Bruce Bozzi.
Starting point is 00:01:45 On my podcast, Table for Two, we have unforgettable lunch after unforgettable lunch with the best guests you could possibly ask for. People like Matt Bomer, Emma Roberts, and Colin Jost. Did you say a Caesar salad with lobster? Yeah. Whoa. Our second season is airing right now, so you can catch up on our conversations
Starting point is 00:02:02 that are intimate and often hilarious. Listen to Table for Two with Bruce Bozzi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 11, Episode 2 of Das Daily Zeitgeist. Yeah. For December 19th, 2017, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Cuck Norris, and I am joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. That's right.
Starting point is 00:02:27 It's your boy, Miles. Don't lie to the FBI. And you know what? Shout out to the GOAT, Kobe Bryant. Got two jerseys retired. Yeah, Jack, we want to talk about it. This will all be edited out. We want to talk spicy.
Starting point is 00:02:36 But you know what? Even though I hate Kobe Bryant, as a Laker fan, I didn't like him as a person. But you can't deny, the man was talented and did great things. Anyway, let's move on. Yeah. It was like a poor man's version of Michaelael jordan so i mean that's still good but it's still like his game was entirely modeled off of jordan his speaking style was modeled off of jordan uh i'm glad this is coming out because before we get into before we were talking about this you were just like bawling your fists i don't care about ko. And now I know. He's boring to me.
Starting point is 00:03:05 He's very boring. Because I was a big Jordan fan, and so seeing somebody just trying to be Jordan his whole career was depressing. Well, he did a pretty good job. Yeah, no, he's very good. And we are thrilled to be joined by the hilarious stand-up comedian Maggie Mae.
Starting point is 00:03:20 What's going on? Hey, how are you? Good, how are you? We're great. We're thrilled to have you here. We just had to get our toxic masculinity out of the way before we talk to you. That's the name of our other podcast, Toxic Masculinity, where we talk sick masculinity all day. Maggie, what is something that you have searched in the not-too-distant past that is revealing about who you are as a human being?
Starting point is 00:03:41 Okay, so I looked up recently i remember from like first grade there was like a yogurt commercial and then like the whole point of the yogurt commercial was that there was nothing on the bottom and they made a little song about it and in the commercial they were like nothing on the bottom and then they showed like a bear butt. Oh, really? Yeah. Just a bear ass on a commercial. Was that Yoplait? I think so. It sounds like some shit Yoplait would do. Because Yoplait was like a European yogurt company that thought they were really cool.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I do remember that commercial too. They pre-mixed the fruit, which was a good idea, I think. I was always a Yoplait fan growing up. I loved Yoplait. I used to just eat the real simple vanilla one. I did not know they were so edgy in their commercials, though. It was the 80s, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Cold commercials are just the best thing to watch because it shows you how much our culture has changed. They're so weird. Just watching commercials from 10 years ago is so strange. Well, it's funny now because Kit Kat, have you seen their new commercials? They are straight up trying to do 80s-style commercials. Are they really? Yeah, and it's a now because Kit Kat, like, have you seen their new commercials? They are straight up trying to do 80s style commercials. Are they really? Yeah, and it's like a little frustrating to me as like someone, like, now I feel old. I'm like, they're not doing it right.
Starting point is 00:04:51 That's not what the 80s looked like. Wait, how are they doing 80s commercials? Like showing, like, you know, it's shot, like, meant to look grainy and like the dratly aesthetic. Like, they want it. They almost want you to believe that this commercial was pulled from the archives. Like super throwback. Yeah, exactly. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Well, what is something that you think is overrated? Star Wars, first of all, is overrated. Two days in a row. Two days in a row. Just go ahead and say it. Yeah. Just say it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:21 So yesterday, Jaquese, our guest yesterday, he said it was overrated because of the hype. He just said the hype does not match to what, you know, like people are getting too excited for nothing. So why is it overrated to you? Is it because of the hype or is it because you're a Trekkie? Because I'm a Trekkie. That whole franchise is overrated. Y'all need to be more excited about Star Trek because Star Trek was the – are you kidding me? Star Trek ruled.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I'm not a Trekkie. I only like Guinan. Well, Guinan ruled too. Because, you know, the hat game was on point. Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, she was like Queen Latifah of space.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Shout out to Whoopi Goldberg. But yeah, Guinan was by far my favorite Star Trek character. I don't feel like you have to choose. Do you feel like you have to go Trek or you just like
Starting point is 00:06:03 when you're when you watched your you were saying before that you've watched a star war? One more. One more. Which war was that? It was episode three. Oh, so you saw fucking the return of the Sith.
Starting point is 00:06:16 And I didn't even see all of it. I came in late to the theater. Wow. So it was all right. I mean, sorry. I should say Revenge of the Sith before I get dragged. Oh, my God. And you were just so overwhelmed by how inferior it was to Star Trek that you couldn't watch anymore?
Starting point is 00:06:36 I feel like it's a coffee-tea situation. No one likes coffee and tea similarly. You like one better than the other. And the one you should like better than the other is Star Trek. Clearly better. And what's something that's underrated? Antenna television. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Terrestrial broadcast over the airwaves television. Yeah, like just regular-ass TV. I haven't had antenna television in a while. I recently moved here from texas um i've got an antenna television uh shout out to janine brito for giving it to me okay um but they've got some quality shows on there you mean like nbc and cbs yeah they have they have a channel called laugh and it has just sitcoms from like the 90s it's got like i watched a bunch of ellen yesterday they just they really have rosanne 90s. It's got like I watched a bunch of Ellen yesterday.
Starting point is 00:07:25 They just they really have Roseanne on there. So they've got a cable on the antenna television. It seems like they've got a channel with just vintage game shows. Wow. So do you have one of those like slap up like HDTV ones that you put on the window? Yeah. So that just shows you how far we've gone. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Because I don't even have cable. I have like digital like, DirecTV stuff. And to know that I'm so ignorant of what's on broadcast television, I found like, wait, so what's going on in that old planet we abandoned? And it's not even new. Game of show? I've heard tell of reruns of old sitcoms. Yeah, they're about to start doing Supermarket Sweep in January on Buzzer.
Starting point is 00:08:06 I always loved those shows because it made you feel like, what would it be like? Because as a kid, at a time, I would be like, hey, can I get this cereal? No. So if I was on Supermarket Sweeps, I could have whatever I want. Did you guys ever want to go on any reality show or game show in particular? You were like, I could be so good at this or like the real world are you ever like i want to be on real world guts guts on nickelodeon yeah i would have fucked guts up is guts the one where you're just on a bungee cord the whole time yeah kind of
Starting point is 00:08:36 basically it's like it was like really safe for kids basically it's like we don't want any mishaps yeah it's like american gladiators on bungee cords. Legend of the Hidden Temple would have been cool, too. Right. Just because, like, I always remember watching it as a kid, and, like, whenever there were, like, things where they had to, like, ask the kids questions, like, of their minds, like, trivia or things like that, I was always, like, it was like Kid Jeopardy mixed with a little bit of, you know, obstacle course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Mixed with, like, a terrifying obstacle course where, like, these giant heads come out of nowhere and, like, grab you. Wasn't that Legend of the Hidden Temple? Yeah. They were, like, yeah. That like a terrifying obstacle course where like these giant heads come out of nowhere and like grab you wasn't that legend of the hidden tunnel yeah they were like that shit was terrifying there were like yeah sections where it was a little bit weird like these old adults in costumes like hey don't try and get out of my grass yeah like boulders would fall on you and i knew like they're like probably not real boulder they're probably like big piles of no they were real like foam and stuff a lot of those kids died a lot of kids died a lot of kids never made it out of the hidden if you go on a live leak you can watch those episodes that never aired there are some great
Starting point is 00:09:35 uh just performances on uh what was the video game game show on oh shit uh it was a nickelodeon video game game nick arcade nick arcade and there are some there's this one girl's performance on that where she's just like so bad at the game that it's the most entertaining thing i've ever seen uh people can google it probably like the worst nick arcade player ever or something because she just can't get like the green screen thing you know how like they were on a green screen so she's just like looking at the green screen thing, how they were on a green screen. So she's just looking at the green screen, keeps going the wrong way. It's really amazing.
Starting point is 00:10:09 All right. We've got to get into format. We're trying to take a sample of the ideas that are out there, change in the world, take a temperature of the global shared consciousness of our species. Where are we at today, Miles? I think we're heading into fever territory with this tax bill coming through. We're very sick. It's getting hot. It's getting hot. It's not good. We are. Yeah. And the way we like to open up is by asking our guest, what is something that our national shared consciousness believes that is incorrect based on your experience? Like what's a myth that we all believe that you know not to be true? Maggie.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Okay, this is going to be pretty deep because it's kind of a myth I've been thinking about for a while. Okay. Because I got a theory behind it as well. That I guess simply said is that everybody, I guess it's – everybody is equal is simple, but I think that there is a conspiracy to create disposable people. Interesting. Absolutely. So can you give an example of where you see this myth manifested? So we look at the Republican Party as the one that's like trying to protect wealth, the more I guess wealthier party or the party of the wealthy I guess. They're the ones behind the whole like we can't have any more abortions but also we can't take care of any of these kids once they're out here.
Starting point is 00:11:44 They're like, yeah, we're not going to fund Chip. Yeah. So I feel like that sets people up, you know, to have, you know, kids that, you know, maybe they didn't want or kids that maybe they wouldn't have had otherwise, you know, and they don't have anything to take care of them. And they're not going to start off at equal footing as people who have you know you know parents that were like yeah we definitely want a kid right now you know right um so they are more likely to become vulnerable people that now these rich people that were trying to get
Starting point is 00:12:18 everyone born and everything like that can now lure off into, you know, wherever and hunt for sport. Oh, that's a take. Or take them off and, you know, start screwing them when they're young. Because, you know, like it's, there's a whole, if there's now a population of people that are like, you know, essentially disposable, you know, maybe no one's going to be looking for them or, you know, no one's really taking care of that. It leaves an entire population that there's no one looking for them or, you know, no one's really taking care of that. It leaves an entire population that there's no one looking for them. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:46 You know, maybe they're not as protected as other people and they're vulnerable to people who have a lot of money and a lot of resources and maybe not the best, you know, intentions. Yeah. And while we have yet to conduct the investigation that uncovers the Republican sport hunting humans island that we all know is out there. Like one thing we all do know is the prison industrial complex where they actually make money off of all of the people in prison. Every other country in the world thinks it's insane how many of our people are in prison in America. Because we just have people are making a lot of money off.
Starting point is 00:13:23 We have money making schemes for everything. People are like, wait, you guys lot of money off of that. We have money-making schemes for everything. People are like, wait, you guys make crazy profits off healthcare? Right. Like, oh, you guys make money off putting people in jail? Yes. Like, yeah, hi, welcome to America. We have commodified everything. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:13:37 We are definitely like – Doesn't that sound like it could happen? I mean, with this massive redistribution of wealth that's going to happen, it happen well i mean with this massive redistribution of wealth that's going to happen very i mean yes you we will begin to see people you know become made to be much more vulnerable for sure for sure yeah and i mean but let's stay tuned for the sport hunting part right although who knows i mean like it's already cartoonishly like unequal and there we are recording this as they are in the process of passing a bill that is going to redistribute things from the most absurdly like have-nots to the people who are already
Starting point is 00:14:14 absurdly wealthy so we'll get into that later yeah we will get into that later but that's a good one that is that is interesting food for thought right, let's get into some stories, you guys. Let's start up top with Mengazi. Mengazi. Which is what we call just the constant updating of famous men who are sex crims. And today's newest honoree is TJ Miller. Yeah, so a story came out, and the first thing you read about it is that it's from 15 years ago when he was in college in Washington, D.C. And it was a thing that got handled by the campus police.
Starting point is 00:14:57 But then when you get into the details, it's really fucked up stuff. And, you know, there are multiple people who are corroborating, uh, the victim story and, you know, it involved him punching her and, you know, violating her in different ways with different objects and just really fucked up stuff. Uh, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:16 somebody who was particularly vulnerable who like didn't, you know, had just moved there. And I don't know, it was all sorts of fucked up. Uh, so yeah, that there's that don't know, it was all sorts of fucked up. So yeah, there's that. He's denying that it ever happened.
Starting point is 00:15:30 But I think there's been rumors going around for a while that this is something he had in his past. So now that's out in the open. I mean, because he looked like such a clean-cut guy. Right. I mean, because he looked like such a clean-cut guy. Right. I mean, yeah. Part of his bit is that he has sex offender facial hair. Right. That is part of his whole thing.
Starting point is 00:15:55 All right. Well, peace out, TJ Miller. Yeah. We'll see. Why would you even say something like that if you knew in your past that you – you know, like if you know that you used to steal mad stuff why would you be like i look like a klepto why would you even like right bring light on that for people be like you know what he did look like that guy the campus police
Starting point is 00:16:15 right talking to a few years ago it's an aggressive defense like really trying to get out in front of it right and yeah because me that's a bit right he did joke about it right he used to like tell jokes about apparently yeah like i punched a woman in the face right like yo what the fuck he was like yeah you know i used to hit women or something like that there were like jokes that he made trying to like you know get ahead of it maybe i don't know but it's a lot of articles say it was like i guess an open secret yeah and for people who don't know who tj miller is because we're talking about him like he's a huge celebrity yeah he was the star of the emoji movie we're uh we're comedy fans so i he's a pretty successful stand-up who oh uh was that's not
Starting point is 00:16:59 where i know him from who was also also in Yogi Bear 3D. So that's where you probably know him from. He's also the dude with weird facial hair from Silicon Valley who just got written off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:16 And that was another thing too is like that was a contested story of like why he was, you know, whether he quit or HBO was like, you got to go. But anyway.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Talked a lot of shit about Thomas Middleditch in the aftermath of that. Thomas Middleditch is a super funny dude. So I'm Team Middleditch, but we'll see how this shakes out. And then also in the owner of the Carolina Panthers, one of the younger NFL teams with Cam Newton as a quarterback. They're having a great season. It came out that he was saying kind of creepy things to people he worked with in the front office, such as what was it, Miles? He was. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Like it was stuff like show me how you like. Apparently, like they had jeans day, which is like a weird fucking office if you have jeans. That was definitely something he came up with. It was like, all right, we're having jeans day. Like seeing them blue dungarees. You mean casual Fridays? No, no. Jeans day.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Jeans Tuesday. Yeah, exactly. That's not even alliterative. Anyway, so basically one of the comments that seems to be out there the most was where he was telling female employees, show me how you wiggle to get those jeans up. I bet you had to lay down on your bed to fit into those jeans. Did you step into those jeans or did you have to jump into them? Okay. Foghorn leghorns.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Who says wiggle in those what the fuck was that the only thing he was accused of or that's just like one of the things i think there are many other things uh but yeah so there are other allegations too but the ones that seem to be kind of like he's been saying inappropriate shit apparently another thing too is he also uh allegedly directed a racial slur at a former team scout too cool yeah so an african-american scout yeah so you know he um he sounds like he has now said okay i'm gonna sell the team because this obviously is not good for the people who i work with which stand-up guy it sounds like and uh diddy and steph curry have put their names out there as people who want to buy the Panthers, which is kind of dope, actually. It's like one of the cool things about Benghazi is we're having shitty people get pushed to the side and cooler people get opportunities who might not normally get opportunities.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Although if you believe Diddy had Tupac killed, that might also be a problem. But anyway, that's a whole other show that we don't have to talk about but no yeah I think it'll be great because yeah I guess Diddy put out a tweet he's like yo I'm trying to buy the Panthers and Steph Curry was like hey sign me up and then even Kaepernick
Starting point is 00:19:57 Colin Kaepernick was like hey I'd like to join too which would be like the ultimate clapback oh guess what now I'm one of the first black owners well hey I got five on it. Right. Yeah, right. Y'all are looking for investors. I got.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yeah, you could raise $2 billion probably. Well, like Green Bay is owned by the community of Green Bay. Is that through stock? I don't know. I don't know how it works. I mean, I'm sure someone in the Zeitgang will correct us. Tell us how that ownership scheme works out of Green Bay. But yeah, I think that's interesting news.
Starting point is 00:20:25 But also, too, I feel like, was it Mark Cuban? Someone was saying it's not a good bet because the NFL is kind of in decline. Right. So who knows? Because it is tough. When you see players still getting injured out there, who was it on the Texans who damn near had a seizure after getting a concussion two weeks ago? Oh, their quarterback Savage?
Starting point is 00:20:42 Yeah. It was scary to see and like when you look at that and you're like how long can this sport go really like yeah but anyway i don't hey diddy do your thing diddy bop all over that field do what you got to do all right take that take that we're gonna take a quick break we'll be right back Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate.
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Starting point is 00:24:49 Listen to Señora Sex Ed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back. So we wanted to talk about, you know, the premise of most of our articles about the 2016 election has been about how brilliant and diabolical Russia's influence campaign was and how it was like espionage judo where they were using our system's freedoms against us. But it turns out like this was not an original idea on Russia's behalf. And America has been doing this since World War Two pretty frequently. I think one of the experts said one out of every nine elections since World War Two, there were supposedly free elections uh have been fucked with by foreign countries and intervened on uh and america is basically the leading uh fuck with her yeah it was like one of those moments where we were like i can't believe they meddled with our elections and it's like yo hey y'all read history before right we started this we're the fucking meddlers on the roof. Yeah. Can't believe they took our bit. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Fucking joke thieves. Yeah. I mean, I've been alive for nine elections and this is a 9-11. I've been alive since 9-11. You guys. Just a little fact about me. But and one of them has been fucked with. So now I know how,
Starting point is 00:26:26 how the world feels. But we wanted to bring in super producer, Anna Hosnier, who is Iranian and you know, therefore has ties to a country that is one of the first, the beneficiary of one of these, one of America's greatest works of intervention meddling. Salaam.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Salaam. Welcome. Yeah, because people always wonder with Iran, they're like, how did it become like this? When did it get so crazy? It's like, well, it started when we overthrew one of their greatest leaders. Right. So can you tell the story about – So during World War I and II, the U.S. and the great of Britons, they really relied on Iran for like basically to take their oil and use it for war with their machines and all that.
Starting point is 00:27:12 And then Prime Minister Mohamed Mossadegh, if you will. Wow. And that is the American pronunciation. So you will. Yeah. So he was prime minister from 51 to 53. And then he really opposed foreign intervention when it came to like oil and all that. And he wanted to share the oil with England 50-50 or Great Britain, really.
Starting point is 00:27:38 But the British did not care for that. So they planned a coup that overthrew Mossadegh and said that he was, you know, all these like war crimes, there's all these things that they like accused him of. And they took the Shah, Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi, who was technically in exile at that time, and they put him in power and then proceeded to bribe him for years. So they could have complete control over Iran's oil. And that went on for a while until the Iranian people freaked out and held their own coup to overthrow the Shah. And then Ayatollah Rouha Homeini took power and became the supreme leader and then made basically married government and religion. And that's when the Islamic Republic was born.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Right. And we're still in that today yeah if you look back to if you just google iran women 1960s you'll find pictures of oh yeah you know iran in the 60s like looked like america in the 60s women were like wearing mini skirts and like you know just were dressed like everybody else all these photos of my mom wearing like the fly skier with like fat wedge heels, like having the time of her life. And then, yeah. And then she came to America. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:50 So and that's just one example. This is kind of America's jam. This is how they, you know, they spread democracy around the globe. But then they, you know, the whole idea of democracy is the people get to choose and they're like astroturf and create a fake opposition movement against Mossadegh. And like to create this idea or the visual idea that like, oh, people are out here protesting, like to really try and influence people when that wasn't the case. And it's again, it's now we're seeing that morph in more nuanced ways. Clearly now, like with Twitter and social media, that you can create these bots and like create this idea that, oh, there are people who don't like this. Oh, maybe is this bad or whatever? So yeah, it is,
Starting point is 00:29:49 it is a grand tradition that we initially started, I guess, really like realistically after World War II was like fight communism, right? Because that was the way to stop the spread. Right. And, you know, they, they went over to Italy and Italy had the democratic Christian Party that was pro-American and the Democratic Socialist Party that was pro-USSR. And the U.S. intervened with, you know, funneling money to the, you know, pro-U.S. side and that side won the election. They were like, whoa, that worked out great. We're going to do this from now on.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And they just kept doing it. And, you know, sometimes it was just, you know, helping them with bycases of cash from the CIA, like, pretty recently in order to, you know, pay off warlords in Afghanistan and, you know, to maintain remain in power. And I think they helped him come to power in the first place. You know, his family, his brother already had a relationship with the CIA. his family, his brother already had a relationship with the CIA. But then there's more problematic examples like the removal and assassination of the Congolese leader Patrice Lumumba in 1961. There was a really popular socialist Chilean president, Salvador Allende, whose government was swept aside by a military coup led by... Pinochet. Pinochet. You might have heard of him.
Starting point is 00:31:27 One of history's great monsters. They were just like, yo, this guy, he looks like he might give power to the people and possibly invite the USSR or Cuba in. And yeah. So again, Pinochet, who is also a graduate of the School of the Americas, which is our training ground for... Dictators. Dictators. Be like, this is how you interrogate people. This is covert operations this is how you disappear people like he went in with a skill set we gave him basically and uh it's yeah look it's a it's a grand tradition and it's interesting though how little though we actually how many
Starting point is 00:32:00 very little articles come out about this in the midst of this whole scandal with russia because it's i guess allowed us to finally like turn like look the other way or maybe ignore that this isn't you know our hands are very dirty too oh yeah and like a lot of the articles we're using as sources were from during the election right but when people were like ah but it won't matter but you know america has a history of doing this, too. So we shouldn't be freaking out too much. But it doesn't matter because Trump is going to lose. Ha ha. Like we as we all know. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:32 And that didn't turn out to be the case. The Russia thing ended up helping more than I think the mainstream the MSM thought it would. Well, yeah, it was I was reading this article that was talking about how a lot of putin's foes like his enemies in russia are like sick of how the media is covering it in the united states because we're painting putin as this like super suave like hyper intelligent mastermind that and like it paints the the russian government as this like very well organized like singularly focused body that can just execute things like on command when that isn't the case. So it's like creating – even in Russia, they're like, yo, yo, yo. Like you're giving people here the impression that like Putin like has his shit together when he doesn't because it's very – like we've just found – we've just needed this like boogeyman to sort of embody like the whole operation when it seems like there are many more moving parts than just that.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Yeah, I think that's generally how we like to treat people who are adversaries to the United States. Like Hitler, for instance, is seen as this brilliant Machiavellian bad guy who knew exactly what he was doing. And he was actually kind of a dumb guy. you know, bad guy who knew exactly what he was doing. And he was actually kind of a dumb guy. You don't hear that very often, but he was just a dumb guy who was very lucky to come into power and was able to do like just horrible shit. Reminds me of someone else.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Oh, thanks, Anna. Trump. Oh, I thought you were looking at me. What's going on, Jack? You're just like giving me a look. When's the beer hall push? It're just like giving me a look. When's the beer hall push? It's just a terrifying thought, though. Like, people don't want to think about, like, oh, this idiot came into power.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Because we want to think, oh, well, shoot, if we're letting someone into power, they've got to be way smarter than us. And that's sadly not the case. Not always the case, yeah. That's real sad. Sadly, not the case. Not always the case. That's real sad. It's interesting that it's something that started off as like, you know, obviously there were darker motivations in certain instances. But for the most part, it was used to like just stop the spread of communism by just by having the Western influence in countries that seem vulnerable.
Starting point is 00:34:40 And like rather than like marching our tanks up into their countries and be like okay this is part of the u.s territory now it's like it was more nuanced like well let's just get our people in there and they can run the government or let's you know have them get sidled with debt uh with infrastructure projects they can't pay and then you know we can lean on them when they have to pay their bills and that's how we can exert our influence um there's an interesting book miles and i were both talking about when we were preparing for this called Confessions of an Economic Hitman that talks about another way that the U.S. has tried to exert control. It's basically a guy who worked for – was it one of the central banks? No, he worked for one of those massive engineering firms. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Okay. That would build the projects. Right. Right. Okay. idea is that america controls the world bank and you know they would get those countries in you know the the way a mobster is like yo you owe me yeah you okay what do we do okay you see that a little socialist uprising little group over there take them down fucking kill them yeah yeah and you know it's a controversial book it's uh but it is an interesting read yeah there are yeah there are some things that are contested in there. But I think at the very least, it lays out the strategy pretty clearly for you to understand, even if the details may be debatable at times. All right.
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Starting point is 00:40:51 middle class like those tax cuts are temporary and this newest version it ends up benefiting the rich even way more than uh before the bill went into conference so it's wild as fuck and people are just like this is straight garbage uh i think the wells fargo ceo was like yeah this money isn't going to go into like you know investing in like expanding our business it's just going to go back to shareholders and things like that and many other people said oh this will really help uh the banking sector too so we know who benefits from this right and the long-term effects are going to be insane, especially when you think about how this $1.5 trillion debt is going to be paid for. On one side, people are very worried that clearly this is all going to fall on the middle class and millennials too, basically over time.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Or if it's like Paul Ryan's wet dream, he's going to get rid of all these sort of programs like Social Security and Medicaid, and then that's how he'll pay for it. So we'll just screw over elderly and vulnerable children and like the poor so get rid of one one of those uh cdc barred words entitlements yeah exactly yeah like things that people uh get right now that they are entitled to like health care being able to live right and people realize this also uh repeals the Obamacare mandate. So that makes people very vulnerable in terms of their health insurance. Although Susan Collins, you know, Mitch McConnell told her that he would promise her that he would vote to put in bills that would help stave off some of the negative effects from that. But I don't know how the fuck you're going to trust Mitch McConnell.
Starting point is 00:42:20 So, again, suffice it to say, people think it's unpopular and the effects are scaring the shit out of people which is why there are a lot of demonstrations so cut to today um and when you say there are a lot of demonstrations protesters are getting arrested right yeah they're they're they're people like getting dragged out again there was oh my god you see the video of the guy with als begging jeff flake to not vote for this the tax bill it's wild viewed uh the guy who was on his flight with him. Yeah, yeah. And like looked at him and he's like, please don't like my life depends on this.
Starting point is 00:42:50 And like Jeff Flake was like, I don't know if I forget what the answer was. It's like ridiculous. We'll put a link to it. But anyway, so it's massively unpopular and it could do a lot of damage. So this morning, Representative Peter Roskam from Illinois is a Republican. He was on the House Senate Conference Committee on the taxes. He was trying to tell people, hey, look, maybe polling bad. It's not that bad. So here, listen, listen to this clip.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Those who oppose the GOP tax plan have actually gone up. In other words, the opposition has risen from just last month. It was 45 percent to now 55 percent. Does it worry you that the majority of americans don't seem to like this no in fact it creates low expectations and i think that this is going to be far more pleasant for people that's that's what the fuck did he just really say that that's that's creates lower expectations right i don't know man. You want low expectations? Put a fucked up picture of yourself on Tinder.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Right. And then if you show up on the date, then you benefit from that. This is like crazy. I don't understand the logic that it's going to be a lot more pleasant. That's like how you describe a wisdom tooth removal procedure. Right. It's going to be a lot more pleasant than you think. A lot more pleasant than the lowered expectations we have led you to have.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Right. That's wild so that's kind of the state of things which is why the temperature i think is rising in the country it's bad times but again an american who's not incredibly incredibly healthy and people say like especially because you know i think we were going to touch on this but bob corker right he was all about yo the deficit i can't the deficit. I can't support this bill if we don't control the deficit. And then magically last week, he was like, okay, I'm for it. And then we come to find out that language was added that would basically directly benefit him as a big real estate owner and business person. He made like $7 million off real estate last year, and he would save like another $1.5 million because of this new thing that was added. And then suddenly he's like, oh, yeah, I'm for it.
Starting point is 00:44:50 So it's – again, I think a lot of people think that this is probably the last sort of gamble the Republicans have going into midterms. It's like let's get this passed. The economy on paper will look like it's doing really well. I mean the stock market is already looking cooler than it is. But they're going to use that going into the midterms to be like, do you see what we did? But I don't know if that's – if people are really going to care at that point, especially if they start losing like – I mean down the road their healthcare coverage and things like that. So so keep an eye on that was monitoring UFOs, essentially. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:52 And, you know, there were all sorts of great details in that story. Hopefully you went to our site and clicked on the footnote and went to the thing because there were details we didn't get to, like, that they claimed to have materials, like, metals and stuff from these ufos like in you know government warehouses like it's fucking indiana jones uh but anyways the guy who headed that up and just resigned we miles you were pointing out went to work for a company that is devoted to you know monitoring and looking for intelligent life. It's called the To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science, founded by Blink-182 member Tom DeLonge. That is so crazy. So old Tom DeLonge. Because he left Blink-182 to get serious about this UFO shit, didn't he?
Starting point is 00:46:37 And I was like, lunatic. Like, that guy's crazy. And then we can just write him off as a crazy Hollywood weirdo. Did you just take the biggest L saying that about Tom DeLonge and then cut to that weird video of that spaceship like that from the Navy pilot? Now I feel like an idiot. Well, that's what you get. Don't talk spice about Tom DeLonge. He knew it was out there.
Starting point is 00:46:58 He knew the whole time. He was just like, where are you? Yeah. are you yeah and he was saying in this article there's like a they're talking to him that the what you saw yesterday from that new york times article is just the beginning right it's just the beginning and like he was acting like as if he's like he flies around in a spaceship and just can't tell anybody but he was like tom de la but then in the article he also said like there like there's another guy claiming to be working on like a form of time travel or like light speed travel so again i guess who knows how maybe that's true maybe it isn't but at the very least this very reputable reputable guy from the dod
Starting point is 00:47:34 is now working for that group so shout out to blink 182 as is the aviation billionaire who is convinced that uh earth has been visited by intelligent life. Yeah. And they make the point we talked about whether there were UFOs, like the alien sightings from other countries. Right. And there are. It's just taken more seriously by the government and other countries.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Oh, really? It's it doesn't have the stigma that it has in America and America talking about UFOs. Like, that's why I was kind of ballsy of the New York Times to actually report on this, because talking about UFOs, people are just like, oh, you're crazy. You're a Tom DeLonge. Yeah. And paying attention to all the small things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:14 It turns it turns out that other countries, they just take it more seriously. They have like actual government branches that look into this. We live in the shittiest country. Like we're gaslighting people who like legit science like was like nah you fucking idiot you crazy fuck no there's nothing nothing like that right so uh we just don't that story only gets more interesting uh for blink i do too i know dude i hope like tom delong just like laughs at travis barker and mark from like his hover jet or whatever it It's like, take that assholes. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Is he still wearing like skate shorts when he's out here telling people about, I haven't seen a picture of him recently, but almost definitely, but he, he must be, if he's not wearing DVS sneakers, I'm going to be really mad or airwalks.
Starting point is 00:49:01 And then a really positive update. So ours, Technica, Or airwalks. And then a really positive update. So Ars Technica, an outlet known for being way smarter than us, or at least me, came out with an article fairly recently calling bullshit on the article we reported on last week about phones causing cancer. Oh, thank God. Yeah. So they're basically saying that the reporting is based on really like partial information and that just all of the studies that have been done, they like really dig into the details. They're like, first of all, it was it only caused tumors in male rats and they were exposing their entire bodies to like massive radiation for months, uh, for nine months, like nine hours a day. Uh, I don't know why all those nines are in there. Uh, I'm probably getting that wrong, but, uh, and it was like barely statistically relevant that the,
Starting point is 00:50:00 uh, cancer that was caused. And they also pointed out that, you know, radio waves is what we're talking about when we talk about the radiation. And, you know, we've been having radio waves pass through us for a long time now. You know, there have been radio waves flying all over the place our whole lives. So it's, you know. So we don't have to put the phone on arm's length away when we're charging it at night. It's still I mean, I'm still doing that because I don't know. I like the like they said, the science is not definitive one way or another, but there's not really rock solid science that we need to be worried about at this point. So also for everybody who's laughing at me for my cell phone holder, that was a jockstrap.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Now y'all are looking stupid again so also go to my twitter page i have an etsy page where i'm selling my jock strap cell phone holder maggie it's been a blast having you here thank you for having me where can people follow you i'm on twitter at maggie may haha and may is m-a-y-e i was trying to find you on twitter yesterday and like I was searching your name and it wouldn't come up, but then I found it through your website. But what's your display name on Twitter? Oh, Trilly Wonka. Okay. Trilly Wonka.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Because I was like, I think this is her, but I was like, yeah, Trilly Wonka sounds right. Yeah. That's awesome. Miles, where can people follow you? You can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. You can follow me at Jack underscore O- ien you can follow us at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we are at just daily zeitgeist on twitter we have a facebook fan page uh just search daily zeitgeist uh and we have a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we
Starting point is 00:51:43 also link off to the articles that we use as sources. Miles is really sleeping on that one. Oh, and I almost forgot. Thanks to SHXXLXN or SH underscore underscore L underscore N, as it's written in the handle, for the Cuck Norris thing up top. I forgot to thank you up top, probably because your name is completely unpronounceable. But thank you.
Starting point is 00:52:10 That was a good, good AKA, man. Or woman. And hey, Miles, what are we going to write out on for that? Dude, you know, we got to give it up to the God MC, Tom DeLonge, the UFO master, the man who knew the truth was out there the whole time uh y'all laughed at him but i guess now there's no better time to play a link 182 song so what better song to go out on than all the small things uh because who knows maybe this song was about aliens if we were close all the small little men who i have seen true care truth brings i'll take
Starting point is 00:52:42 one lift your ride best trip always i know you'll be at my show, watching, waiting, commiserating. He's talking to aliens, for sure. For sure. That is going to do it for today's show. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys then. Bye. All the small things True care, truth brings I'll take one lift Your ride, best trip
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