The Daily Zeitgeist - America Needs Page 1 Rewrite, Wall Street Mafia 9.24.20

Episode Date: September 24, 2020

In episode 722, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Worst Idea Of All Time Podcast co-host Guy Montgomery to discuss fascism in America, the 2020 election, the grand jury charging one officer with wanton endangerment in the Breonna Taylor case, Ron Johnson trying to bring up the Hunter Biden allegations again, capitalism being broken, and more!FOOTNOTES: Trump Applauds Fed Violence Against Journalists: ‘It’s Actually A Beautiful Sight’ Where Running Over Protesters Could Become Legal The Election That Could Break America The Deadline That Could Hand Trump the Election Wounded officer in Breonna Taylor case emails cops: 'I’m proof they do not care about you' Actions of officer who killed Breonna Taylor ruled ‘justified;’ Another charged with wanton endangerment Police Sexual Misconduct: A National Scale Study of Arrested Officers RonJohn Expends Remaining Dignity On Rehash Of Bogus, Tired Biden Allegations Leak reveals $2tn of possibly corrupt US financial activity FinCEN Files: HSBC moved Ponzi scheme millions despite warning Billions in dirty money rolled through Deutsche Bank. World's richest 1% cause double CO2 emissions of poorest 50%, says Oxfam WATCH: Dal - Those Days (Feat. Leah Yeger) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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every Monday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 152, episode four of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio.

This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck the Koch brothers, fuck Fox News, fuck Russ Limbaugh, fuck Ben Shapiro, fuck Fonda, and fuck Tucker Carlson. It's Thursday. And JK Rowling. Rowling, Rowling, Rowling. It's Thursday, September 24th, 2020. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.

I'll take a virgin. Do with a cherry and lime. I'll take a virgin. Hey, red lobster. This one's mine. That is courtesy of Steven Rodgett. And I am thrilled to be joined Once again by my co-host

Mr. Miles Grant Ooh la la la It's the daily zeitgeist We the show that you choose Ooh la la la Everyday Jack and Miles Bring you their hot views Ooh la la la

La la la la la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. For Fox News. And fuck you to the Koch brothers too. Aye. Okay. We used to be number 10. Now we're number 173 on the podcast news charts, but we'll call that number one. Podcast news charts, but we'll call that number one.

Anyway, shout out to Jason Christian at JasonC1975 for that wonderful Fuji's inspired AKA. That song, somebody did an AKA for me a couple weeks ago for that song, and I added it to my son's iTunes like playlist that we play, uh, in the car on road trips and he's real into it. So that is a jam. The, the, the Fuji's album, the score,

you know, it has a right to children. You know what I mean? Absolutely. That, that, that album has a right to have access to children so they can hear and know the true art.

Just got to find the clean version, the clean cut um the that is also one of those songs that uh once i started listening to it again i realized that they're just like lines from that song like we used to be number 10 uh that part that just like randomly flashed through my brain like probably once every couple months like is that and i'll like find myself saying it out loud uh anyways thank you to 90s hip-hop for giving me uh the vast majority of the the white noise in my brain uh better than just i guess regular white noise. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined. This is always a treat.

I know you and I both look forward to any time we have in our third seat the hilarious, the talented Guy Montgomery. Hey, good morning to one and all. I'd just like to give a huge shout out to 90s hip hop and also iTunes. All right. Yeah. La la. Yeah.

I don't have an AKA. I'm Guy. AKA. All right. I'm Guy. There you go. AKA I'm Guy. How'd your parents come up with that name, Guy?

There was never any doubt, really. I think they sort of, it was a judgment call. I came out and they looked at me and they said, well, we know we're going to call him. And, um, it's really worked for me. Yeah. People go crazy for it. They love it. Guy Montgomery?

You kidding me? What a name. You're serious? Was that a stage name, man? No, no. This is it. Guy Montgomery? You kidding me? What a name. You're serious? Was that a stage name, man? No, no. This is it. This is how I roll. Morning and night. Hey, man.

Mark, get over here. This fella is called Guy Montgomery. And Gal is the woman version, right? Gal? Yeah, Gal Godot. Her and I, we have an annual conference where we cover all sorts of ground, but largely what jokes we've come across at the expense of our first names. Yeah.

Oh, man. Did you have a lot of trouble in elementary school? Were there a lot? One time, actually, above our lockers, we had our names written. time actually we had um and above our lockers we had our names written and one of the one of the the more thuggish young children oh and this this anglican all boys uniformed school yeah they they bloody they put a hat on the u and they changed my name you know and this was not done in good spirits this was not done you know they weren't calling me gay montgomery because of my perpetually positive spirit they were trying to um put the boot in and so yeah i guess i have had my share of hardship yeah right yeah yeah in this respect

and yet you're still here i think it's a testament to your resolve that sort of buoyed me and i thought do you know what i'm gonna really own the name guy montgomery yeah miles did you ever get any sort of shit for your name like your your name is sort of uh inevitably a very cool name uh well when people tried to i don't know i didn't i was sort of i had a toxic mouth as a kid so So when people tried to fuck with me, I would just clap back with the most like asymmetric, disproportionate response. Asymmetric warfare.

Yeah, like it was like, oh, you want to tease my lunch? Like I'm going to say something awful about your family and then get in trouble because you're crying. And the teacher's like, you know those words in that sequence, Miles? And I'm like, I don't know. I'm just insecure and the only child in my mouth is all i have so uh yeah your lunch is honor oh yeah especially like you know having like you know japanese food and like you know kids have like

lunchables and shit like you know you gotta sometimes you know early on establish that you're the wrong one to fucking tease and i I think kids don't realize that they're the ones getting fucked with the Lunchables. Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, with hindsight, a lot of these fellas would have killed for a little Japanese, you know. A little onigiri, a bento box, you know, a sandwich that was made by hand

rather than, I get it, you know, when you're a parent, you're like, fuck it, here, just throw that box in the bag and eat that, now go. Yeah, when you cut those kids open, you know, when you're a parent, you're like, fuck it, here, just throw that box in the bag and eat that, now go. Yeah, when you cut those kids open, you can see rings of sodium just like inside their DNA from every time they had Lunchables. I'm always surprised by that when I cut American children open. Isn't that strange? Like, wow, I can see how many Lunchables you had.

It almost makes me forget myself and the fact that i really gotta stop cutting these kids cut these damned kids open all right well guy we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about we're gonna do a quick fascism check see where we're uh where we're at where we're. We're going to talk about the charge that came down for the cops who murdered Breonna Taylor. One of the three cops was charged with not murder, and the other two were not charged. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about Ron Johnson's bombshell Hunter Biden report. We'll talk about that we'll talk about ron johnson's bombshell

hunter biden report we'll talk about the finsen leak if we have time all of that plenty more but first guy uh we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are uh most recently i was searching um words that rhyme with simon okay drop a diamond yeah you got it yeah i mean you wouldn't even needed to use hymen yeah um i actually spend quite a lot of time on uh the website rhymezone.com yeah i love rhyme. Shout out to all the high school rappers out there. Yeah. Huge shout out to RhymeZone.com. Because sometimes I just feel like if you got to prepare for something and you don't have anything and you need something on short notice, just bring a rhyme.

Yeah. And I was doing this panel show, this New Zealand comedy topical panel show last night, and there was a game called Yes Minister, where a minister from our parliament comes in and you have to try and trick them into saying yes or no answers. And I didn't want to use his real name at any point, so I googled words that rhyme with Simon and words that rhyme with bridges. Bridges? Oh, because his name was Simon Bridges. Well, and still is. So what did you call him? Payman Bridges? Yeah, well, I started off the first time. It's not time out, it's time in.

I called him Simon Bridges Jones's diary initially and then the next time I tried to get him with one of my very cleverly worded questions I called him Siren Bridges and then I called him Siphon

Bitches which I was probably over the line and then I actually wound up calling him Simeon brown which is the name of one of his uh his colleagues there you go siren britches kind of sounds like you're saying he has an amazing ass or something like that right yeah like you're oh well riches are a siren they i didn't think about that i haven't really really observed his derriere with any great detail, but, you know, the guy's a unit.

He's probably got a nice taut butt. That's cool. How did the overall panel go? Were you pleased? That was my weakest part of the panel. Were you pleased? That was my weakest part of the panel. It was difficult because I don't especially – he's on the other side of the aisle from my political allegiance.

And so it's difficult because it's a very sort of jovial show. And, you know, like when you meet people, traditionally there's a humanity to them that is removed when you're just watching them through news cycles and stuff. So I don't really want to be affiliated with this guy, but I've got to play along in this comedy game. Right. So I found that a little bit challenging to strike the right balance

of sort of trying to upend him or needle him without still respecting the overall comedy tone of the show. The price of being a nationally renowned wit. It would be like if Miles and I were first rate and were asked to be on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me or something. Oh, man. Could you imagine? Had to be fun and cute alongside.

It's because the mainstream media doesn't want to embrace us dude yeah no we're just too real like that's the only thing you guys are you guys are tremendously real among the realest yeah yeah yeah um but then after that i really hit my stride i was um i was cutting everyone up i had some great quips nice so what we've come to love you for i thought you loved me for my uh cutting insight it's the clips man i gotta be loving the clips i love the clips what is something you think is overrated um engaging with new media or watching new uh programs you know i've got i've got an arsenal of stuff I know works for me and I don't think I really, you know, like this might

be aging or just laziness or the state of affairs in the world but I'm just going back to my comfort food. Every night I've been like, I've got a real problem with social media. I go on it, like my muscle memory chakes me there

if I take out my phone without even, you know, the cognizance it's happening. And so every night I've been like, I should really watch this neatly packaged movie about social media that is staring at me every time I open my computer. And then I think, that's not what I want to do before I go to bed.

I want to catch up with The Simpsons back in 1995. Yeah. Let's not go past everything before season nine, basically. Yeah. Let's do that. And so nothing happens and nothing changes, but I feel good. Yeah. I like some of the teens, some of the episodes in the teens seasons.

Teens seasons. It's a smattering at that point. I think as a species, we could pull a Star Trek and just stop making new culture. Like in Star Trek, they're always like into Sherlock Holmes and stuff from the 20th century, even though there are many,

many centuries into the future. That's the work of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. That's how good his talent is. He gets his talents into humanity and people just can't put it down. They can't put it down. Yeah, yeah. I think we can do that and be okay. You got to watch.

I mean, for anyone who feels reluctant to watch a social dilemma, because I understand the idea of social media in and of itself is already overwhelming but there's something also slightly comforting to hear like it all or see it all laid out in a way that you can just go like yeah you know what i actually don't need to like i don't even need to feel bad about avoiding this i don't think i don't think that's um oh yeah avoiding it i thought you're gonna say like i don't feel bad about avoiding this i don't think i don't think that's um oh yeah avoiding it i thought you're gonna say like i don't feel bad about being addicted to this i mean these guys have made it so i'm addicted it's great all of your behaviors out of it's made to be addictive so i don't have a problem they do no but yeah in that sense are you like it is that cynical and you know like the

way that they've it's completely just like this runaway train now that you're almost like you have to take it into your own hands to sort of completely be like, they're telling me this thing is going somewhere. They don't even, they can't predict now without any kind of regulation. So maybe it's better to hop the fuck off or at least like massively throttle back in a way that you realize like you're not falling victim to these sort of psychological traps. Well, it's just like I was talking with a friend about it last night. And there used to be times in my life when I'd sit and just do nothing, not even read or watch anything, but just like sit with my own thoughts, you know. you know and that was such a great source of creativity like becoming bored and letting your brain actually you know make it as far through progressive thoughts or like you know as far down different ideas that you might spark into something of interest but now it's like you just fill that space with anything else you just yeah just with like listening to everyone talk

simultaneously which obviously cannot be good for you right and to their point they say they talk about just how the how the computing speeds have just you know exploded exponentially in the last 10 years and we're still dealing with millions of years old brains that are not made to take this much you know data and this much stimulation uh like you know through the social media thing so when you think of it when you look at it like that and all these problems it's causing you're like yeah that's right like we're we're meant to fucking just like barely fucking use aol at most it genuinely feels like i'm short-circuiting some of the time yeah for me absolutely as i become more and more conscious of my mental health because

obviously this year has taken its toll on everyone i realize like the the second like you know from putting my social media apps like the very last screen on my phone so i have to be like one two three four i'm like by the fifth one i'm like oh we're really doing this still we're really doing this still then i'm like yeah fuck that fuck that fuck that like let's just read or like let's listen to music or let's do something else yeah the point that somebody makes in the movie about how it for some reason this was really effective to me they were like what if when you looked up something on wikipedia the entry was rewritten based on what they thought you wanted to see. Right. That's basically what social media is. That really clarified to me.

I was like, oh, that's very bad. Yeah, I think somebody needs to, like a first-rate institution should make a list of approved websites that you're like allowed to or that that don't like break your brain uh like rhyme zone and wikipedia and then everything else is just unapproved baby i used to use rhyme zone on like in the early 2000s like that's like one of those tools that it's just like yeah that's what the internet should be is just like anything that you do i mean i used it for my wedding vows

which i rapped uh yeah that's what it's for yeah it was cool he did it to on the thong song instrument yeah um but yeah i shout out to things like the rhyme zone and wikipedia that actually serve a purpose yeah there should be this a rhyme zone app that when you download it it's just one big button that takes over your whole home screen so it's the only option your phone doesn't become anything but just a massive rhyme zone vessel the new iphone is pre-loaded with rhyme zone rhyme zone and shazam and and a fucking somehow a u2 album also sneaks its way on there but you need that two albums and rhymes it's still that same youtube u2 i love the idea that you two have stopped making new music because you're like people I'm like, what the fuck is that? I almost want to throw my phone out the car. I love the idea that you two have stopped making new music

because you're like, people just didn't get that one. We're going to keep re-releasing it until they come around. Come on, guys. Come on, guys. You don't know. Everybody. Come on. They're like, what the?

Get off the stage. It's trash. Guy, what's something you think is underrated uh keeping fish keeping recently recently started yeah keeping a couple of little uh tropical guppies um and it's been very soothing i uh the reason i had to start, I, I sort of had to start, um, keeping fish against my, well, it was,

it was, it was thrust upon me. I, I play in a fantasy football league and, to, to try and keep things competitive. If someone's having a bad season, we introduced something called the fish,

which is like a, um, it's like a version of the wooden spoon, I suppose. You got the wooden spoon over there? You say the wooden spoon? I don't think. Is that a disciplinary device? We have wooden spoons.

Yeah, yeah. Well, I... Yeah, we got those, guy. Yeah, yeah. We also got Wi-Fi. We don't just use them for discipline. You can use them in the kitchen as well. Or, you know, if you're disciplining in the kitchen as well or you know if you want to do your disciplining in the kitchen uh well it's smacking a bottom yeah but uh the wooden spoon

in sports elsewhere in the world represents the people who have finished last so the it's like the race to the wooden spoon is like the opposite of winning the championship and uh people were sort of mailing in their seasons if they if things were going poorly they stopped being invested and it's frustrating because it still has an impact on what's happening at the top of course of course yeah so you introduce the fish and the fish is if you carry the fish so the first season it was just given to the new entrant into the league they said you're the fish and you can you got a chance to lose the fish every home game you play in the season the fish is up for grabs and if whoever loses the fish bowl they become the fish and if at the end of the season you are the fish,

you have to, before the next season starts, you have to actually go out and buy and maintain fish in a fish tank or you're kicked out of the league. Wow. I came last and I was like so sure this wouldn't be a problem because I thought the whole season would get cancelled, but that's just not how America works and so the show must go on and so I had to go down to the local pet store and I spent up to I spent like 400 New Zealand dollars getting

my fish tank you know set up and everything just so I could play in this stupid league but the the upshot is i'm loving the fish nice yeah yeah what better for mental health than presumably fantasy sports which are bad for mental health and i didn't realize you were doing fantasy i forgot you're an nfl fan i was like getting excited i'm like yeah mate playing a fantasy football as well yeah yeah but it's the nfl what do you are would you say you're a niners fan or something no i'm a broncos guy broncos that's what it was yeah yeah yeah i remember yeah rough start but yeah i actually i mean i don't really you know i don't really care it's mostly just a social lubricant it keeps me in touch with some old friends who otherwise we wouldn't have a

place to congregate as in in earnest that's the service it provides unless you're having a good season in which case it's actually quite important and it is all skill based becomes the most important thing in the world yeah yeah and finally what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false or vice versa the oxford dictionary defines myth as uh i'm just joshing you well do you do you now do you boys know what a gorgon is uh i've definitely heard that word before i remember the gorgonites from the movie small soldiers wow you'll be alarmed to know that they were not the original gorgons ah damn it i know before shakespeare was calling a woman shrews, Greek fellas were calling a woman Gorgon, specifically the Gorgon sisters.

I'm talking Stethno, Uriel, and of course Medusa. Oh, the famous. Yeah, these three dames, they all had venomous snakes for hair. Pretty freaky stuff. Yeah, yeah. And anyway, so there were these three sisters and this guy, Perseus, son of Zeus, and also a regular woman named Danae,

was like, God damn it, I do not like those Gorgon sisters. And I especially don't like Medusa. And Medusa was the only one that was mortal i think of the of the gorgon sisters anyway it sounds harsh but it's it was kind of fair because um not only did medusa have snakes for here but if you looked in her eyes well she'd bloody well turn you to stone what i know i can't deal with this it sounds like absolute utter bullshit wow but i know a lot of people like i i don't pay that much attention

to facebook but sometimes my aunts and uncles will forward a meme that's all about that assumes medusa will turn you to stone if you look around that's right i didn't i don't understand if you got snakes for here why are you got why are you bothering with this other you know surely you want people to be able to look at you to go whoa holy shit that's so unusual but medusa obviously she is embarrassed or something put on a hat. Right. Or put on a ponytail. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Could you imagine all the snake heads in the back, and it's just like this really awful thing at the back, and it's like, ah.

No one has ever really looked at this from the snake's perspective. Yeah. These snakes must have been furious. Tethered to a head? Yeah. Right. What do they eat? Her dandruff?

Presumably, yeah. Horrible. Which would be their own skin. And then she started shampooing with tea tree shampoo. So they didn't even, all of the bloody detritus of her scalp was gone. They didn't have any nutrients. Anyway. I mean, think about the molting and how much flaking there would be.

Perseus. Yeah. Her dandruff is just molted snake skins. Wow. That's kind of baller. Anyway, Perseus was like, look, I don't like this. I don't like this at all. And then he was telling, I don't know, probably his dad or something.

And Athena was nearby. And Athena was like, wow, if you've really got into a problem with Medusa and you want to kill her, you've got to make sure you don't look in your eyes in her eyes and so Perseus he approached her I actually don't know

what specific thing Medusa did to antagonize him to this point I think he just didn't like her energy but he instead of looking at her

in the eyes and everyone in Greece at the time thought this was so brilliant but it seems so obvious he used a shield with a mirror on it to find it,

so he wasn't looking directly at her. And he chopped off her head. And that's true. And then don't they use the head? That's not a myth. A lot of people think that's a myth, but that actually happened. That's true.

The head became a tool, didn't it? Well, yeah. I'm just thinking because now I'm like realistically being like, I played God of War. I remember you just pull a Gorgon head out of nowhere and turn people to stone. I'm like, just keep that head on your hip. Oh, really?

It retained its power even after it was chopped off? Yeah, it was weird. But you know what? I don't give a fuck. It's just me and Kratos doing our thing. It's weird that it would retain its power after it no longer retains any life, but it does not have its power if you look at it through a mirror. Yeah.

Also, if it retains its power, presumably the snakes are still charging. You got that on your belt. You're introducing all sorts of problems. Oh, yeah. People don't think these things through. A lot of people think that's not true. Turns out, actual historical fact i'd like to cordially invite everyone who thinks that's not true to to go fuck themselves yeah all right you heard it here first folks uh we're gonna take a quick break we'll be right back to

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catching us up on, uh, is just, uh, a, a human being, uh, here in,

in the States, uh, just to catch you up. Uh, we, we still have, uh, Donald Trump as president.

Um, and he is super excited that uh journalists are are getting um thrown thrown about yeah yeah the quotes are like he's giddy you know at a rally recently just saying they grabbed one guy and he's like i'm a reporter i'm a reporter they threw him aside like he was a little bag of popcorn i mean honestly when you watch the crap that we've all had to take so long when you see that it's actually you don't want to do that but when you see it it's actually a beautiful sight that's his quote it's a beautiful sight and he's to have somebody just ragdolled around because they're performing their duty as a journalist to inform the rest of the public of

what's happening in the country it's it's i have not been uh particularly with due respect to to my american brethren uh engaged with the the u.s news cycle while it seems like trump has made a dog's breakfast of the whole presidency for most of the time. But it seems like he's really in panic mode now. And so he's just, just trying to, um, spread his shit as far and wide as he can. Absolutely.

It's, uh, I, yeah, I don't think he's panicking. I, I think he thinks he's going to win and has good reason to think he's going to win.

Cause it's the panic will set in when whatever happens on election day and like, he has to figure out which way it's going to win. The panic will set in when whatever happens on election day. And he has to figure out which way it's going to go. Because right now this almost seems like instinctive just being like, all right, let's hit the accelerator. Well, he had a similar tone when he was talking about the possibility of people protesting on election night. I think he said something along the lines of, yeah, we'll just... on election night, I think he said something along the lines of, yeah, we'll just... So he was being interviewed on Fox News, and he said if there's rioting, which, as we know, they define as any protests that aren't for white supremacy...

That aren't pro-racism. Yeah. Then he and his side will, quote, put them down very quickly. We have the right to do that. We have the right to do that. We have the power to do that if we want. Look, it's called insurrection. We just send in, and we do it very easy. He didn't say who he's going to send in, but we do it very easy.

I mean, it's very easy. I'd rather not do that because there's no reason for it. But if we had to, we'd do that and put it down within minutes. reason for it but if we had to we'd do that and put it down within minutes this uh this is sort of an aside but it's just a curiosity about his um the way his synapses work do you think in his internal monologue he finishes sentences right uh no no no i don't yeah that's do you think he's ever thought a sentence through to its end right like it does seem like he starts a sentence finishes it in his brain but starts the next sentence before his mouth finishes it um oh yeah yeah but i also think there's like some skipping over that happens where he's like we just send in realizes oh i can't say the army because the army wouldn't do what i want so he just moves forward yeah he's

kind of like uh it's sort of like he sends a tire down a hill and then starts chasing after it right I feel like it's like sort of the thing it's like he gets a little momentum and he's like holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit like that's what it feels like yeah because like it's so disjointed and like at times he's almost getting a hold of the tire that he kicked down the hill and you hear something and then it completely he loses his grip on it and now we're talking about some other shit at the end he's down at the bottom of the hill next to the tire do you see what i did yeah that tire came down that hill together it's like no hell yeah yeah exactly leading the way uh you were chasing it like a little boy but that's that's fine and yeah i mean i think this is the kinds of actions

that again if people aren't convinced of about what fascism looks like yeah that's fine. And yeah, I mean, I think this is the kinds of actions that, again, if people aren't convinced about what fascism looks like, yeah, this is where it's at. And then you also have Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, proposing laws that are absolutely just draconian fuckery. All of these, just a set of laws he's proposing to essentially just discourage people from protesting. After the Unite the Right rally, there was a slew of legal proposals that were coming out of Republican-controlled states that were essentially trying to make it illegal to protest, or at least protest against racism, if you really look at how the language was all worked out. But these proposals from DeSantis talk about higher charges for participating in disorderly assemblies or damaging

statues, attaching fucking RICO liability, like racketeering charges to people who are found to be like organizers of these disorderly assemblies. So treating them like fucking mobsters if they're if they're basically trying to organize their community and then even make it legal to strike someone with your vehicle if you are fleeing to safety from a mob. So we're saying legal legalized weaponization of your car against people who are advocating for equality, which we've seen from white supremacist terrorism like that yeah absolutely form of and also incels and you know that sort of just yeah it's it's a thing we've seen like far too often so i mean it's you know we'll see where these proposals go but these are absolutely the kinds of things that the the right has to do to be able to maintain minority power, because the logic behind all of these laws isn't because it's not because Florida is out of control with their protests. They've been pretty subdued. But, you know, it's just this whole thing.

It all boils down to this mentality that the GOP has, which is sort of, well, if there's more of them or people on the left, then we need to make it illegal for them to exercise their power. That's just the only way they can get ahead of it. It's like, okay, well then just make it illegal for them to be organized. Right. There's an Atlantic article that is kind of the number one story on Drudge right now that is talking about how, basically they say the worst case we we've talked on this show uh joe biden uh who is a big fan of the show despite the fact that we disagree with him a lot uh has said that like he he always puts it out there as the worst case scenario is trump refuses to accept his loss and then is swiftly removed by the armed forces. But this article points out,

and interviews a number of intelligence experts who are really worried about this, that Trump rejects the election outcome and uses his power to prevent a decisive outcome against him, basically. It's not that it's a clear-cut thing, and Trump is like, nah, it's not a clear-cut thing. It's that because he's able to muddy the waters in so many different ways, there's not an accepted version of what happened in the election.

And then for three months, we have in the courts and in the streets just a complete clusterfuck because nobody agrees. The thing that has been happening for the past four years, which is we can all look at the same video and not see the same thing, happens with the presidential election and almost definitely will happen with the presidential election unless Trump wins a clear-cut victory. Because if Biden wins a clear-cut victory, Trump has already told us he is not going to accept it. He said the only way that we lose this election is if they take it from us with widespread election fraud. So he's going to imply that's happening no matter what. And then, yeah, it's just we're fully... The article compares it to the month right before 9-11 where there's these big red blinking warning signs within the

intelligence community but there's just like not really anything in place to do anything about it and in this case you know the the call is coming from inside the house the the president is uh specifically the one who's trying to take the towers down, I guess. He's just, he's really highlighting the element of, you know, because you've got your, I actually don't know all the different things, but you've got all of this infrastructure in place traditionally, your American political system to try and protect whatever institutions they are. political system to try and um protect whatever institutions they are and uh he's a real testament to how much of that was based on like just goodwill or like you know the idea that he really he's operating on a whole different plane of existence i mean it's it's it's the highest level of fuckery that you could reach for. Yeah. It's great.

And it's from here where it's like I don't even understand a lot of the machinations that are in place that sort of, you know, that govern your political system. And I don't think he does either. It's just like he's pushing all the buttons that his officer wants to see what the fuck happens. Yeah, it's all instinct with him. It's a baby flying a jetliner.

Yeah. His instincts. It's like, i don't know what does he's do and you're like what the fuck is that baby doing in there that's meant for fucking rational adults who understand the same whatever not there's no sanctity to anything anymore in this country but you know i always liken it to this thing of like when the vikings arrived in like continental europe at that time every like all the gold was stored a lot of gold was just stored in monasteries or churches where people respected the idea of god and you wouldn't dare go into a church to steal things cut to these godless people showing up and they're like this weak ass monk is the one guy protecting all this gold okay well fuck it it's ours now people like what are we gonna do right the thing that god used to keep people from doing this well guess what there's these people showed up and then they're not playing by the same rules so that you can't be

outraged anymore you have to very quickly accept that these people are not playing the same game and adjust your tactics accordingly otherwise you're just gonna sit back and watch everything be taken from right under you yeah it's all norm based. It's things that we have always taken for granted as just these like little formalities like the concession speech, the calling the other the opponent to congratulate them on winning, which is the official like, you know, line between, OK okay the election is over this person has won uh those are not those aren't official things um there's this history professor from princeton who's uh julian zellizer who is saying we're not prepared for this at all we talk about it some

worry about it and we imagine what it would. But few people have actual answers to what happens if the machinery of democracy is used to prevent a legitimate resolution to the election. It's going to be chaos for months. I personally don't... The only version that isn't that is if Trump wins a clear-cut victory because if biden wins a clear-cut victory i can't imagine trump just being like well you know i've been bested uh the better man won you know it's like what yeah it's just never going to happen it's um yeah it's it is crazy it's also to think if biden were to win, it's sort of how people are talking about, they did it in like 2016,

I think when we lost a lot of iconic celebrities and everyone said, ah, I'm done with 2016. Bring on 2017. It was like, it's not the year. A lot of the times it's cancer that's killing these celebrities. And it's what people are doing with 2020

where they're like, you know, like COVID-19 keeps a calendar and then waves everyone on the way out at New Year's saying, thanks for having me. And it's the same thing with like if Biden wins, it's not like the state that the country will be left in is not like immediately reputable. It's not like all of the disgruntled people

who are, you know, like, it's not like all of the disgruntled people who are you know like it's a it's it's it's tough it's a tough i gotta tell you traditionally i've quite enjoyed watching america from a safe distance but uh it's becoming a tough watch yeah i bet don't look too long or you'll turn to stone right yeah i'm gonna fly in with a mirror on my foot. A bunch of fucking corgans over here. Yeah. I know. All right, guys, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre.

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I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the Biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print. They lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team?

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who fired randomly at Breonna Taylor, an unarmed person, and murdered her, one of those three cops would be charged with not murder, and the other two would not be charged. It's what we thought it was going to be which is woefully inadequate the the cop who was charged is being charged with wanton endangerment i think uh or something along those lines no it's wanton endangerment yeah what a five-year maximum sentence uh this is a cop who uh was known to try to give very drunk women rides home from

bars and sexually assault them and not not try he actually was uh accused of that and was subsequently fired from the um force so the because he didn't have the blue wall of silence protecting him anymore, I think they felt like they could do a good faith gesture that people would accept at making this letter this email 2 a.m email from one of the other officers john mattingly who it just makes you he sent this email to his fellow louisville police officers it was just so again it just reminds you of all the police we've heard just be petulant in response to people asking them to you know be responsible for the you know violence that they uh are are enacting on on people and responsible for the fact that they go into situations with their guns drawn and are not taking that responsibility seriously they it's like kids being caught doing something and choosing to just like go full tilt,

like a temper tantrum. Yeah. We're just seeing, you know, like, uh, de facto white supremacy and shit like that just reassert itself. You know,

in the beginning of the uprisings, I was talking about how it's a living organism. And while there was a lot of momentum during a lot of the demonstrations, that there will always be a response because it's this, you know, phenomenon in the country that just has to sustain its existence. country that just has to sustain its existence and it's just reasserting itself by saying yes these people can completely botch a warrant and murder an innocent woman and two people will just fucking walk away and another guy will just get a really fancy charge of being which essentially just sounds like that that that was wanton endangerment rather than you straight up murdered an innocent person. And it's. I don't know. I don't know what to say.

I'm not surprised. The second the they were saying that the Louisville Police Department and the city was going into a state of emergency before this announcement. I think everybody knew what was going to happen. The same thing, which is in the pursuit for justice, we're not really getting it, but we get other little tokens here and there. Somebody might be on a magazine cover or some company hires two more people of color or something like that. But it's never the hard work to really have a reckoning with how awful this system is set up and how people seeking justice, there's an entire segment of the country that seeks justice and just can never get it. And that's also a really unsustainable path we're going down as well, because it completely erodes the trust that people have

in each other, in their communities, in leaders and just and will begin to create suspicion among people like you don't know who you're interacting with and what the outcome is going to be because you also know you're operating in a world where the legal system will not protect you in fact it will prey upon you so yeah it's just total total bullshit uh but it's the same thing over and over. And I think that's why people really need to see that incremental changes are not going to resolve any of this. This incrementalism still allows, you know, organisms, organizations like the Louisville Police Department and other police departments across the country to operate in the same way, because we're not actually putting our foot down and saying, these are the things we can no longer do.

This is the way we need to ferret out the bad apples, if you want to go with that theory. But no one is taking the problem seriously. It's just, yeah, it's shitty. The Hankinson sexual assault stuff just made me go down a rabbit hole of how big a problem this is with police and there's a 2014 report that explains

you know driving while female as a it's basically you know cops will pull women over for alleged traffic violations as a pretext to sexually harass or abuse them and it's just so fucking dark yeah alleged traffic violations as a pretext to sexually harass or abuse them. And,

uh, it's just so fucking dark. Yeah. I mean, I think people just need to realize that a lot has to happen and it has to happen urgently. Like, you know,

shout out to people who can kind of just forget that this is an ongoing problem because there aren't people in the streets, uh, tearing shit down, but it's, it it hasn't stopped and it's not going to stop. So please don't use the people in the streets as an indication of how engaged you need to be about this issue. It's ongoing, it's nonstop. And the less attention that is paid to it, the longer it's going to exist and be able to essentially thrive. I just like to say I found that tremendously articulate, Miles. I don't really have anything to add, but it's, yeah, it's. Well, Guy, what do you have to say for yourself down there in New Zealand?

I would say watching it from here, it looks like a page one rewrite to me boys yeah right starting yeah we're tossing it out uh delete the celtex file if that's what you use to write your scripts uh but yeah it's yeah i mean it really is it's just it's it's you know one of the many consistent illnesses in this country uh societal ills that we just fail to address because we haven't reached a tipping point where the victims look enough like the people in power to do something. All right. Let's talk about the 2020 election really briefly. Oh, man. It's an election year?

Yeah. Yeah. We use air quotes for that, I think, at the moment. Jesus Christ. Yeah. um i yeah you we use air quotes for that i think at the moment jesus christ there yeah there's like a certain uh list of things that uh trump allies have been claiming are going to turn the election in his favor uh like these october surprises and one of them was this hunter biden report that was going to uh make good on all the things that Trump was kind of implying when he was committing crimes that got him impeached that we just like kind of forgot

about that thing. But yeah, the whole idea that Hunter Biden was, you know, involved in illegal activity, used his father's position as the vice president to enrich himself yeah it's cool man because ron johnson from wisconsin who's by far the fucking most the least intelligent one of the least intelligent senators that this country has been talking all day wait till you see this report wait till you see me a u.s sitting u.s senator essentially just reformat russian propaganda into a senate legitimate senate research document or seemingly legitimate and try and drop a bomb and it's like you're saying it's all old debunked bullshit from like a year ago that we've already talked about that we've already

said is bullshit that everyone knows is has carries no weight um of this idea that hunter biden worked on he was on the board of burisma the ukrainian gas company and essentially making the case that his position interfered with u.s foreign policy which is like first of all just shut the fuck up if you're that you're really that concerned with that please take a look at what's happening right now let's catch up to now uh and tell me if you still have that same outrage energy which they don't um the whole thing just think aside from this being completely just total horseshit they further just go on to fully cell phone in their little report because in their assessment this line is in the report quote the extent to which hunter biden's role on burisma's board uh affected u.s policy toward ukraine is not clear yet this is

what they're going around waving like their own report is like i don't know it's kind of all sort of tenuous shit but i don't know here it is from if you want to read it. Really pulling a page from the U2 playbook there, where it's just taking an old thing and reformatting it and saying, what about now? Do you like it now? What about Barbarisma? Barbarisma.

It's like, no, bro, we heard that last year and it's bullshit. How did this get in my consciousness again oh man it's just yeah it's it's bad faith it's and it's really low energy because at the end of the day like it's really not savvy older guys it's just also the every single political move that's being pulled is um there's no there's no roadmap there's no vision for what the country is meant to be there's no forward progress it's literally all right just attack politics like the entire basis of republican thinking appears to be like fuck everyone like just fuck everyone else and it's yeah that's the the you know the governing principle i mean it's it's like it's it's literally unfathomable or i mean not literally anymore but it seems so unfathomable

that it's like that can that's enough to not only for them i just i can't even articulate it it's just what's the what's the end game the end game is like privatize everything and then like enrich the like oligarchical. That's really the end game. You know, when you look at how cities go bankrupt and then, you know, utilities are privatized and things like that, that's just the pattern that, you know, will eventually fully play out.

And a lot of people are profiting off of things while many others suffer. Because it's the only way. We're watching it hollow itself out. And they don't even realize what the long-term effects are. In the sense that even if you are depressing the wages of your workers, that in turn creates less fucking consumers for the goods that you have. And then being like, what the fuck's going on? I thought we can just keep people at these depressed wages, but they can't consume. And it's like, I don't know.

Well, fuck it. Let's just be, let's just focus our attention somewhere else so we can just continue to enrich ourselves. It's, I think that's all it's headed towards. But at the end of the day, it's just that we've arrived at that point where the whole lie of America that most people who didn't look like your cookie cutter American have always believed this is what the country has been. And now it's just so disgustingly transparent. There's just no way to hide from it anymore. Before, there were a million ways to convince yourself maybe it's okay.

But now it's just like, oh, yeah, yeah oh it is a ghoulish fucking country from new zealand the impression is very much like because we grow up with so much of your um your meat you know we constantly your pr machines being an overdrive my entire living and breathing life and it sort of broadcasts american exceptionalism like you know it's a prestige tv show america we're the best at everything and then it does it's starting to feel like what we're seeing is the behind the scenes making of documentary yeah it's like what this is the show right right right how do you put none of this stuff in this is i mean it's a i'll say it again it's a tough watch but it does feel like it's all being laid bare and like because you've taught

yourselves you've so you've you've self-trained to point high definition cameras at your at your country for so long it's like you can't figure out how to stop broadcasting when the the show starts going off the rails yeah because like you know we get i mean new zealand is not it's not a perfect it's not a perfect place i'm sure that all of our uh our problems seem very you know backwater and trivial from what's happening over there but it's like um i would say instead of backwater i would say aspirational we wish those were our problems but um it's you know know, like it's still, you know, you guys dominate the international airwaves so frequently.

It's just, you know. I think there's a bit of global schadenfreude too. Certainly. Look at those assholes. They're number one. The worst part of me me until like i'm actually engaged in conversation with you guys or like you know if i if i properly delve into what's happening there is a certain element of like it's the worst part of the new zealander in me this we

have this thing called tall poppy syndrome where if anyone gets too big for their boots you want to see them cut down right but um there is a little bit of like well you know you're trying cameras on yourself yeah we don't just watch the good bits. Right. Absolutely. At the same time, can you call it schadenfreude when the people that you're watching get at least brought to some form of justice or at least exposed, have been killing people from other countries wantonly without like consequence and then just ignoring that in their self-image it's too complex we're just it's like a beautiful like plutonium rod that you don't realize is killing you by being near it a lot of the what

is being broadcasted like it genuinely looks like america is in a in a state where traditionally um a country like america would come in as a foreign imperial power and take care of business i mean if only like instagram likes and influencers were as valuable as let's say fossil fuels or oil uh then maybe people would come to harvest that in the name of democracy but i it's not clear yet i, speaking of the end game, there were these papers leaked to BuzzFeed News earlier, I think, or end of last week. It's being called the FinCEN leak. But it's just, you know, more evidence that capitalism is broken without way more regulation, but it's all about $2 trillion worth of crime being legitimized by the financial institutions that are supposed to lock down. HSBC, it's JP Morgan, it's the financial institutions that are supposedly so big that you had to bail them out because they're the whole linchpin that the whole thing is based on.

But yeah, $2 trillion of transactions, and this is just a very small tip of the iceberg situation, tip of the iceberg situation uh where you know they were knowingly uh letting these transactions go through that were uh basically part of blatant money laundering and blatant financial scams that uh were funding terrorism and funding uh you know there were ponzi schemes they were uh terrorism russian crime uh russian organized crime um and they were what was happening is you know small businesses would work with somebody who would get access to their money and like their payroll taxes were just like half years worth of payroll taxes would disappear uh and it would be uh funneled to these accounts and because a deutsche banker you know these supposedly trustworthy institutions would vouch for these schemes that money would just disappear instead of being like a thing where you're like

oh this is fraud like can you help me get this back or you know say bygones be bygones like when somebody is clearly like stolen your credit card or something instead of that these small businesses either went out of business or had to lay people off because uh you know some financial institution it was like better for the bottom line of some financial institution um so yeah that's that's something that was just released yeah i mean there's the panama papers there's this there's every fucking leak on earth you need to say come on y'all like it's it's all happening in the top you know two percent or half a percent are completely just siphoning all of the wealth and stability out of this country um yet we still many people still cannot go arrive at that point intellectually where you say this is, this is completely unsustainable

and unable to connect the dots to how that affects them. Where yes, to your point, a business who's been fucked over by this massive money laundering scheme involving these large banks has to lay off people. People have no jobs. People can't pay rent or take care of themselves. And that creates, like, it's not just the financial aspects. It causes trauma all across the board. And I think a lot of people can't connect those two either of like, it's like, wow, those guys made a lot of money. It's like, no, man, you know what $2 trillion worth of trauma, human trauma looks like because you pulled $2 trillion out of the economy, that's also another measure that people need to understand how to also see how we measure these things. Because

it's not purely that... It's hard to conceptualize $2 trillion and what that does. But if you think about how many people could use... What $2 trillion does for people who have been laid off or lost their health insurance or are seeking housing, things like that. That's where you begin to see what is happening here. And when people are just sitting on that money and people are like, also need the support, it should really be disgusting to people. And it should be a very quick idea or quick conclusion to make the same. We have to rebalance this for the good of everyone. But again, i think through our media and things like that we've really done a good job with inoculating people against this

and making it such a like asper like this idea of you know we protect millionaires because we still treat it as this like aspirational thing uh because we have all these like in you know visions of like successful people that we think we can also be that, you know, we have this like weird fake class solidarity with with the wealthy. Yeah, there's that documentary, The Act of Killing from 2012 that I always talk about. But it's basically about this genocide that happened in Indonesia where a democratically elected leader was replaced by a dictator with not necessarily the help, but at least the complicity of the United States. And we prefer dictators and fascism to socialism. And the people who commit the genocide are who do the the actual killing it's called the act of killing because

the stars of this documentary are the actual people who are on the street directing or actually physically doing the killing of like thousands of people and they like associate american capitalism with gangsters they're like those are one in the same and they think gangsters are cool and like they're the aspirational thing and it just like that ever since i saw that american capitalism made like more sense to me that um like the way they think of it is like socialism and things like that are for uh you know nerd nerds and then american capitalism and capitalist success are for like the gangsters and like that's what's cool like those are the two sides the two poles do you think there's also an element of uh self delusion where it's like you know people would rather associate themselves with

the strata yes or traditionally above and so it's like they don't actually see that the the money or whatever the the trauma is coming out from them totally because they're mentally associating with the where it's happening from yeah it truly is this it's easier to think i'm going to be rich than i am poor right now right and i think not enough people are coming to grips with that and i think also too like you like even like the stories we tell on tv like they're not not a lot are very realistic in terms of like you know most houses that we see the characters live in those aren't houses anyone like you know that's like you have to be if you'd have to have a pretty significant income for your home to look like the people on TV. But we're, we're shown that as being normal. So that also creates like a sense of shame around

what you're able to afford, because if that's the baseline, then you're kind of like, okay, I'll get there. I'll get there. I'll get there. I'll get there. That's just, I just got to keep working and I'll get there. I'll get there. Rather than saying like, hold the fuck up. Why aren't I there right now? Why isn't't this normal why do i have three jobs to barely afford my apartment yeah um because i think we still have this idea like we can get there rather than saying like we need to actually flip over the fucking table right uh rather than still still sit at it and wait for our hand that hand to get dealt to us it's like fuck that it's not gonna happen not not at this rate uh or else you probably wait have to wait four fucking lifetimes for something like that to happen or at least work four fucking lifetimes to earn that amount of money

yeah it's always interesting when an american tv show or movie decides to show class in any way like that's considered revolutionary as opposed to just like the status quo um whereas the status quo is just a like fairy tale where people where a blogger in new york city can live in like an amazing apartment in sex in the city or like uh or like friends the these are people who like never seem to work who like live in amazing apartments in manhattan when like that became impossible like in the late 80s it's all those shows also always become like you know it's this brave tv show acknowledges that income inequality exists right it's not people living their lives ordinarily it's the fact that they're hard up against it is the

concentration of the show it has to be about that you're not seeing a life just being lived you're watching someone aspire to level up well Guy it's been

great having you on pleasure damn pleasure uh despite a our country disintegrating around us uh it's great to get your perspective uh on on what that disintegration looks like uh it's like a little uh solar system going supernova in the sky from where you're standing. Yeah. It's all different down here. You guys are transitioning into the fall. Yeah. Get a load of this.

Get a load of this. We're in spring, baby. What? And I hear coronavirus is at a low there too, huh? What's it like in spring? Hopefully that's what our spring will look like. Yeah, well, in spring you can look forward to being allowed out of the house again. Do you know what I'm going to do today?

I'm going to fly on an airplane to visit my folks in a different city. That's right. How long is a flight across New Zealand? I'm flying more or less the entire length of the country, and I believe it is two hours and ten minutes. Nice. I like that. It's not long.

What's the car ride then? Like seven hours? It would be across islands. So it would take seven hours to get to Wellington, and then a ferry, which is about three and a half, four hours. And then it would be another sort of seven or eight hour drive, I guess. All right. Yeah.

Take the plane. Take the plane. Yeah. Planes go fast, man. See, it turns out. Yeah. Just doing some cocktail napkin math here. Yeah.

I would take the plane. I would take the plane. For sure. Well, I'll stick to the plan I had in place. Thanks, Bob. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We would take the plane for sure. Well, I'll stick to the plan I had in place. Thanks, Bob. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We approve.

Always want to check. Always want to check in on you, man. Guy, where can people find you and follow you? You can find me across my Twitter and Instagram at Guy underscore Mont. And my podcast, The Worst Idea of All Time, is currently embarking on a new misguided season. So if you want to check that out, it's me and another comedian and friend, Tim Batt. Previously, we've watched and reviewed the same movie every week for a year. And this year, we've done something different where there's a softcore pornography franchise

that in New Zealand you would grow up with Called Emmanuel Oh yeah There are 50 plus of these films And various different spin-offs And we are slowly mowing our way Through the back catalogue So please join us Honestly

It's a different kind of beast From what I'm used to It is Less mentally arduous, I would say, to experience a different piece of media. Who knew? I think we're sort of hitting our straps. We've watched eight of them now, and the movies have gone from this genuinely quiteful uh attempt to create some sort of cinematic experience to just like

it's transitioning to mid-90s kind of bizarro world softcore porn um it's not long until we land in america with the emmanuel lost in space series yeah emmanuel on space yep i'm very excited for oh yeah what i that was on skinamax as we so lovingly called it was it showtime i forget in new zealand they'd play on there's this like a very sort of rudimentary uh cable access was called sky and there's like this channel called sky one and on a fr at midnight, these movies would start playing, and so you'd hope everyone was in bed, and you'd have the TV on the lowest volume, and you'd catch a glimpse of your first beer midriff,

and you'd say, oh, I can't wait to be old enough one day to understand why. Something like that. What is going on with me? Do they show nudity on regular TV in New Zealand? I thought you were talking about Emmanuel. I'm like, oh, yeah. After certain hours.

After certain hours, yeah. Very cool. Pretty similar broadcast guideline. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Did you answer that? Yeah, there was a tweet, actually. I dug up specifically for this moment, work of social media you've been enjoying did you answer yeah there was a tweet actually um i i dug

up specifically for this moment which is by an account date at david eight hughes david hughes uh it's quite an old one but i sort of was doing the rounds again recently which was um son hands me a picture he painted me what's that son it our house. Me walks outside with son. Do you see how it absolutely isn't? Oh, man. Kids are such shitty artists, man. I'll tell you what. Tell him.

I will tell you what. Get him. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? uh miles where can people find you what's tweet you've been enjoying uh find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray and also my other podcast for 20 day fiance uh with sophie alexandra on right here my heart uh tweet i'm liking uh one which just made me laugh felt like a very la tweet it's from past guest yedoyaoya Travis, at YedoyaOT. Tweeted,

I just remembered the last time I was in LA, my friend took me to a party and halfway through the party was like, this is Susan Sarandon's house? Feels like a very thing you realize.

You're like, what the fuck? Why is all these pictures? Okay, I'm fine. That's okay. And then this other tweet blew up earlier this week, but I just love it

as someone who went to, you know to Catholic and Lutheran schools growing up. This is from at MrSilkySmooth24, tweeted, It's not premarital sex if y'all never get married. Follow me for more biblical loopholes. That was mine for the day, but I can find another. Oh, shit. That's so good. Phil Jameson tweeted every hat is a top hat a bottom hat is shoes

um he's not wrong he's not you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on, Miles. What are we riding out on today? This is a track from DAL, Dah yeager uh i'm not familiar with either these artists but i'm familiar with the vibe the track is called those days and it's just very laid back it's like so laid back like you feel like the drummer might be falling asleep because they're

just so behind the beat and the bassist might you know have been woken up from a nap because it's just so laid back. This is just a great track to listen to, given the state of things. So just go back with some relaxed vibes and think about those days, whatever those days mean to you. Yeah. Classic songs always talking about these days.

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