The Daily Zeitgeist - American Eagle Pissed Genes, Men Bad At Dating Apps??? 07.29.25

Episode Date: July 29, 2025

In episode 1904, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, Blair Socci, to discuss… Dating Study Finds That Men Are…Holy Sh*t The Comment Section, Online PI’s Thriving, Sydney Sweeney Ad Campaign Is Taking Heat For Its Nazi Vibes and more! Dating Study Finds That Men Are…Holy Sh*t The Comment Section Online PI’s Thriving Sydney Sweeney poses in jeans, skips her top for new ad campaign Sydney Sweeney’s Spicy Jeans Campaign Sends American Eagle Stock Soaring Sydney Sweeney's American Eagle Ad Sparks Outrage, But Fans Praise Her For 'Killing Woke Advertising' Sydney Sweeney’s new campaign draws fire for racial undertones Know Your Meme: "Sydney Sweeney Has Great Jeans" American Eagle Ad Brooke Shields Says She Was "Naive" About Her Racy Calvin Klein Commercial SEE BLAIR SOCCI @ Dallas Comedy Club AUG. 2, 2025! LISTEN: Handle With Care by ConductaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You look like you time traveled in a good way. Really? Yeah, your skin looks amazing. If you compared this with your, I don't know, like senior year photo, I feel like you may have the same face. I don't know why. I'm like, what is this player? I don't know.

I mean, the most complimentary way I'm like, is this some looper shit? Right. That's my best motherfucking friend. Yes. Yes. You know that. So I'm objective. Skincare is my autistic special interest. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, it's show you have thrilled me. Yeah. Right now. Yeah. I only spend 19 hours a day on skincare.

I'm Mark. I'm Mark Blair. I don't I don't like for real. I'm like, you look like a child. Thank you. You know, I'm going to be thirty nine in October. You're not. That's crazy. Yeah, I know.

Not based on what I'm seeing. Wrong. Wrong. Incorrect. Incorrect. Not based on what I'm seeing. Wrong, wrong, incorrect. Incorrect, try again, asshole. Thank you. This fucker didn't even know about 9-Eleven. Yeah, what is that? Exactly. Did you know 9-Eleven was based on a true story?

That's what she said the other day. I didn't know that. You didn't know that? I didn't know that, that's so crazy. Yeah, I've heard a lot of rumors about it of whenever I go to know that. You didn't know that? I didn't know that. That's so crazy. Yeah, I've heard a lot of rumors about it whenever I go to the airport. You think the conspiracy and loose change is just that it happened at all? They say that thing happened from loose change. This is an iHeart Podcast.

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Miles, we're almost at season 400, the famed season 400 that we've all been waiting for and totally realized we were coming up on before I just read that number. We missed, we could have done something cool for the 300 when we did episode season 300. We totally didn't do a lionitis, Leonitis, like Spartan thing. We missed that one.

We didn't do it at all. No, we were just shirtless that week when we were recording. No one wanted to mention all. No, we were just shirtless that we couldn't record it No one wanted that chin in completely incidental We don't famously don't know how much we've been doing this show Justin the other day was like this is about to be the 2000th episode on my brother At the most yeah, I was like shut your mouth there's no such thing as 2,000 episodes of this fucking show Yeah, I was like, shut your mouth. There's no such thing as 2000 episodes of this fucking show. Oh, man.

It's all like once we start recording, it just all goes into a collective ocean of recording the Daily Zyp guys that I have no concept of how long we've been doing it for. Yeah. Except all here. Relative was listening to an older episode and they're like, I wanted to hear your podcast when I was like over and I was like, please don't do this. Oh, my God. They played it don't do this. Oh my God.

They played it in front of you? Oh yeah. Yeah. As if it were like music at a brunch was like putting this show on in the background where you know, like you don't need to hear me cursing all the time about like Obama boners, but they knew what they were doing with the content. Go ahead. Yeah.

Yeah. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into American shared consciousness and it is Tuesday, July 29th 2025. Mm-hmm. Hmm Amazing food day today. It's national chicken wing day national lasagna day. Okay, so if you like wings or your Garfield you're locked in Hell yeah wings and lasagna. Yeah, that's a fucking Yeah, wings and lasagna. Yeah, that's a fucking, that's a spread. They don't go perfectly together, but they're, they really, you have the whole, all the savory foods that you possibly need covered.

Hold on, but you wouldn't eat like a chicken wing appetizer and then your lasagna. And then be like, oh, what did I do? What did I do? Yeah, that's true. You'd be like, this is beautiful. That would be perfectly fun. Or a lasagna appetizer for your chicken wing dinner. I don't know.

Up to you. It's totally up to you. I guess chicken wings in lasagna chicken lasagna, but the bones are still Okay, now you're trying to make it fucked up now Just full bone Wingstop fucking I was trying something Although instead of marinara sauce, it's all buffalo sauce. Mike, you're going to get an ulcer.

I'm getting an ulcer thinking about it. I'm sorry. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka Potatoes O'Brien, a culinary themed nickname for our wonderful wings and lasagna day. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray!

Hey, did you hear Hulk Hogan died? A union busting racist that never sold a move. I hope she can Randy destroy his soul. I hope that he rots in hell. Okay, shout out to First Blood 522. I knew Hulk Hogan was racist. And then I saw all the people being like, let me tell you about another racist thing Hulk Hogan did. He was like, oh my God.

It was his defining feature. Oh, he was like, the racist guy? They're like, yeah, yeah, he was also a WWE guy, but we all know him. He's a freaking scab. The guy's a scab too. Oh my God. But then I saw that quote where his family is like, now is not the time

to be pointing out that he was racist. And I'm like, that's his dying day. Yeah, look, I don't I don't know him. But anyway, don't be racist. I don't know him, but I don't know him. No, he wasn't my favorite anyway. I liked the more race on its faced racist characters like to Tonka, the very problematic Native American guy.

Those ones I like, you know, or Mark. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Now, this right here, this is what I'm talking. I do like the nation of domination. That was cool. Who wrote the AKA? Oh, sorry. That was first blood 522.

Yes, 522. First blood 522, my favorite of the Rambo movies. I like that they included a criticism of him, Yes, five to five to two my favorite of the Rambo movies. Mm-hmm. I like that they included a Criticism of him like never selling moves. Yeah, he's like also just bad at acting when it comes to you Oh, I don't know if you were watching that and then mid like there was the nation of domination Where they had like all these wrestlers of color and be like, oh look at these fucking, you know He's like Muslim like coded Black Panther-coded group. Did one of the characters have an X in there now?

No. It was like Farouk, Crush, that's how the Rock started when he was Rocky Maivia. Anyway, this is all wrestling shit that doesn't matter. I think I was out on it by then. I know I was out on it by then because I was out on it after basically Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant. After Sergeant Slaughter went bye-bye. That's right. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a TDZ Hall of Famer, one of the very faces on Mount Zeitmore, a brilliant stand-up comedian you know from, I don't know, MTV, Comedy Central, NBC, TruTV, E! If you watch it.

Way too many. Just name them all. So much TV. Everywhere. Also, Bob's Burgers, our special live from the Big Dog is hilarious and you can go watch it right now. Please welcome back to the show, it's Blair Saki! Blair! Oh, what's up, Psych Games?

Oh, shit. In the building, in the building. It's Blair, good to see you guys. Well, it is, miss you so much. And, you know, just our little pre-chat, I was like, God, I'm home again. You know, I'm home. You're home, though. You can smell the lasagna in the oven.

Big dogs home, baby. Big dogs. Is that what the rocks cooking? That's what he was cooking this whole time. I love lasagna. I love marinara. Oh, there you go. What's your favorite Italian food? What's my favorite Italian food? If I, if I had to go to like just my full truth, it would be pizza. But I feel like that's a trick.

No, that's fine. That's a rude answer. But yeah, I like, okay, if you, if an Italian person asked you over the, you would get self-conscious about saying that, well, we do some character work. Hey, a plan okay if you have an Italian person asked you over that you would get self-conscious about saying that well We do some character work Damn I lost it right away, and I never had it someone say yes, okay

Oh, if I can ask you one question There it is. What's your favorite Italian food? There it is. What's your favorite Italian food? Catch you all day. Oh Yeah, that's good one. Yeah, I tried making that recently I fucked up so bad It was so incredible. Oh, yeah, I fucked up. I'm look I'm I it was my first time at it requires a lot more finesse than I had to make. Miles, you have to give yourself a break. You can't just hit a home run to I'm one. It takes time to learn.

I know. It's like each year old just got into the Hall of Fame. It's about those little hits. Yeah, totally. I totally know that person you're talking about right now. I know that reference. I know you do. I know you do.

Miles gets up to the majors and is first at bat, doesn't hit a home run and is like, this sucks. This sucks. I'm done do. Yeah. I know you do. Miles gets up to the majors and his first at bat doesn't hit a home run and is like, this sucks. I suck. I'm done. I quit. You got on base though. You got on base.

I don't care. I want to home run. I'm done. Fucking look so stupid. You don't even know me. You don't even know me. Ripple. That's so stupid.

I feel like my Italian order completely is dependent on like where, like if I'm at an Italian restaurant, I'm going to get a pasta dish because I can't eat. Yeah, like Olive Garden, of course. You're going to get pasta at Olive Garden. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to fucking, like, because the bowl's never end. Yeah. But if I'm going to, like I said, it depends on like how high level I guess it is.

Yeah, yeah. Of course. You know what I mean? Because like pizza is just the staple. It's my favorite food. I'm going to get it anywhere, but at an Italian restaurant, even if the Italian restaurant offers pizza, I feel like it's not, it's not always the best thing they do. You know, I had, I went to a restaurant that had like a, just a tomato sauce pizza, no cheese on it. And I was with an Italian person and they ordered it. And I was like, I was

like laughing like this ain't no pizza. And they're like, this is what we eat in Italy. Actually. Like you'll just have like cheeseless kind of slices with this. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's not my thing though. I'm a cheese. I'm a fricking cheese. Have I said that cheese from my way, but you know what I also love?

I'll forget. I'll forget and snap that shit out like a little freaking canine. There you go. I like a, I love a soft ravioli that melts in your mouth. Like my dad makes it from scratch. It's crazy. Like if you get a well done ravioli. Yeah.

It will take you to the heavens. Oh, like you mean like not the pasta is not overcooked because it's like, it's like right in that perfect. If you get like a perfectly executed ravioli like it is Nirvana. Mm-hmm Like a fresh ravioli quality like the thinnest softest Pasta of a ravioli. I mean that is like that's art. It's life-changing It really is it's not coming in a bag loose with a bunch of other raviolis. No. Most of them are split open like the way that I always grew up with raviolis.

My Contadena raviolis. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. They're frozen. You just have to jam a wedge in there to break off a chunk of raviolis. I don't think I ever felt anything for ravioli until my dad started making them from scratch. That's beautiful. I'm going to have to come over to your house to eat that. Yeah, you should.

All right. Blair, we're thrilled to have you. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the things that we're talking about today. We're going to look at a dating study, mainly the comment section of a dating study. Yeah.

That is horrifying. The dating study found, this is going to surprise a lot of people that men bad at gauging where they should be like aiming, right? Right. And they're like, they're like, what, why doesn't she love me? About everyone. What league are we in?

You know, the study itself isn't perfect either, but again, this is the second when you, you put something out that was like, Hey, men on dating apps, maybe this thing is maybe slightly out of touch here. I saw the New York Post put this up and I was like, let's check the comments really quick to see if people are taking any of this information on board. Why doesn't she love me? I bothered showing up. Yeah. Oh, I saved her from that big turtle character with the spiky hair. God damn her. Princess Peach. Yeah. Oh, I saved her from that big turtle character with the spiky hair. God damn her.

Princess Peach. We're going to talk about online private investigators who are exposing cheaters. This is, this is, there's an article in Wired, I think that is a, you know, saying that this is part of the like CEO head of HR Coldplay thing. They're like, people are just, we want to watch people get found out, get caught. We want to drive, we're lonely and we want to dive into other people's suffering, other people's relationships, which I think is like partially true.

But I also don't, I don't know that everybody uniting to dunk on those people was necessarily all like just guilty pleasure. I think there's something about a tech CEO and, and his head of HR. Oh yeah. Yeah. I feel like we'll talk about that Sydney Sweeney ad campaign. That's taking heat for like, just like eugenics, eugenics undertones, just like E-ish, you know, eugenics. Eugenic undertones. Just like E-ish.

Eugenish. Please, let's just focus on the depravity of the Brooke Shields ad that they were trying to also mimic. Maybe that's what it is too. All of that, plenty more. But first, Blair, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

Oh, I think the last thing I Googled was scalp oil because I'm trying to go on a hair growing journey because my brother rudely left this earth and I think it's affecting my hair. That can definitely happen. Is that something cheerful to bring up? But sorry. No, it's definitely something happening in your life. And we were talking about it off of Mike and it's I can only imagine how stressful that is, honestly. Yeah, it's stressful. But at least, you know, the world is really peace and calm. Yeah, the world is a nice place that you can find refuge all around.

Yeah. How are the oils helping with? Nice just place that you can rest find refuge all around. Yeah How are the oils helping with I think they're going well, you know, it looks good You're not for people who are just listening. Yeah, blair is not coming to us with like, you know A few whips by jackie miles. I'm freaking bald now guys I look like freaking pit bull right now. Okay, motherfucker. How dare you tell us what bald is, right? Tell me what bald is. I know I've never seen your head though.

You're always wearing a hat. But I, oh, there we go. But I love pit bull. There we go. Oh, there we go. Oh, God. Oh, God. Do you know, I think that the most attractive

Man, I've ever seen his ball. Yeah, of course. Who is it? What's his name? His name is I always get shit for this Myles Gray. Oh Myles Gray. Thank you. There you go James Leisure Leisure James Leisure. He's been in a million things but most the one I remember him most from is Girlfriend's Guide to Divorce, the one scripted show from Bravo. Wait, how do you spell this? Oh, a researcher name. How do you spell his last name?

I need to see him. Um, L-E-S-U-R-E James Leasher. He's a bald man and I find him so attractive. Oh yeah. I know this guy. Yeah. Oh, that's my op. Is your op?

That's a mistake. Yeah, that's a mistake. I'm sexier to him. Oh, okay. All right. Sorry. Forget I even mentioned it. I really apologize.

No, he's beautiful shaped head. That's the thing. You got to have an amazing head shape. Well, I think about that all the time because when I had that tumor taken out of my head six months ago, they had told me I was gonna have to shave half my head and I was just like, no, I have a bulbous head. It looks like a basketball. I can't do that. Basketball is not bad.

Basketball? You don't want to have a perfectly round gigantic basketball head. That looks like a balloon from up, Jack. Yeah, that's probably true. A balloon from up Jack. Yeah, you don't want to be true. A balloon from up very specifically. You do not want that to be beautiful shaped heads that just like look incredible with balls. Yeah. People, I see people clowning people who have the basketball head and they

say they look like that children's cartoon. Kai you. Oh, I haven't seen that. Yeah. It's like, it's like a little kid who got the straight up basketball dome like this. Oh, shit. Oh, yeah. That's me. I am Caillou. Caillou, yeah. Whenever I saw him, I was like, who's Callie Lou? And then as a parent, and then you hear the name Caillou, I'm like, oh, fuck.

Okay, I've been so stupid in public. If the makers of Caillou are listening to this, please do catch me on your program. Thank you. Blair could not actually play that because Blair currently has hair. Although, probably do a bald cap. You do have the skin of a baby character on a TV show. You could play a baby if you decided to shave your head. I just need to tell the listeners that Jack and Miles have extended such kindness to me this morning

Because they know I'm in a lot of deep pain and they're giving me a lot of compliments Don't mitigate don't mitigate and accept these compliments because they're coming from the truth It's shooting me to a different dimension of happiness really and I need that so thanks to my guys I'm just saying I've Blair. I've known you for a while and I honestly I'm just saying I've Blair I've known you for a while and I honestly What you're you've DH I don't know why it's crazy Say this to you with me later, you know, we're talking on a recent episode about like our slash bald and like how it's a subreddit where people like

celebrate bald W's and I'm wondering, have they ever done a like Mount Rushmore of best bald heads? And you know, I feel like Michael Jordan, Jason Statham are two that like pop into my head right away. They have to be like, they've got great bald heads. You're not your boy, Bruce Willis? Bruce Willis in there. I'd also have to add, I'd be remiss not to add Andre Agassi who famously revealed the truth of his bald ass. This man was gluing on a wig.

And winning trophies. And winning Wimbledon. While we're on blow. I mean, can you imagine? And he had us all filled and he would have died with that secret had he not revealed it in his memoir. You know, we'd have no idea. And then when he took it off, I was like, this is a good looking man. He didn't need that wig.

I think we also have to include Kelly Slater as well. Surf's up. Oh yeah. Icon. Was he always bald? As long as I've been alive, which is only seven years. Flair, what's something you think is underrated? I'm going to have to go, uh, my dad's locks.

It's really incredible. Um, for a Gentile Italian family, my father has been smoking salmon for many years and he's a salesman in a real like pull yourself up by the bootstraps kind of man, a hard worker, scrappy guy. And about 30 years ago, he went on a fishing trip to Alaska and he had this like smoked salmon at the fishing house there that they caught. Then he, they said it was a secret family recipe and he somehow like got this guy to tell him and he makes the most incredible locks. And I was just thinking about it. Oh my god. When you first said that, I thought he was creating LOCKS locks. I was like, Oh, is he a locksmith? I also went on a journey

when you said my dad's locks. And I was like, okay, it's a locksmith? I also went on a journey when you said my dad's locks. And I was like, okay, it's either locks that like go on a door or dreadlocks. And then you said he's been smoking. I was like, oh no, smoking weed and he has dreadlocks, smoking salmon, but smoking salmon and he has locks. L O X. Yeah. You know, I, I am a little bit insane.

One thing grief does, my brain is operating at about 4% of its normal capacity. The synapse is not firing. So then I just like, oh yeah, locks. I'm thinking about locks, you know? Yeah. But that's, hey, somebody who loves smoked fish. Yeah.

Between now the ravioli, the lox, I'm coming over for dinner and I'm gonna spend the night so I can have lox in the morning. Yeah, you should, that would be great. Tell your dad I'm coming through. Bring the whole fam. So you just have- No, no, no, no, no, no, I can't.

Just me, just me. I need this. I need this. Do you just have like too much lox at this point? I feel like that would be- No, I never have too much lox. Yeah, just not enough lox. And you know, because I'm autistic, I never have too much locks at this point. I feel like that would be a- No, I never have too much locks. Yeah, just not enough locks.

And you know, because I'm autistic, what I do is I'll just eat one food over and over and over and over and over until I'm fully fixated. The last three weeks it's been Bon Me. Oh, I love Bon Me. And I did eat tacos for two straight months. Like literally, I just ate tacos.

What kind of Bon Me did you have? Pork belly is my favorite. Oh yeah. I always get pork belly. There's a spot that has like a brisket where you dip it in the pho broth. It's like a dip bun meat. And I'm like, oh boy. That sounds good for winter. It's good for even summer.

I'm sick with it. Whoa. Yeah. I'll tell you about it later. You're a monster. Yeah, I am. What is, Blair, something you think's overrated? What do I think is overrated? I am concerned. I've already done this one before but who can say

And it's impossible to know I'm gonna have to get I'm gonna get shit This is going to be polarizing but deep-dish pizza is really bad And and I just also want to say that I recognize pizza even though when it's really bad It's so good like french fries or Mexican food, but deep dish pizza you know it's just really a you get lost you get lost in a sea in an underworld of um bread that never ends and the best part is like the sauce and the cheese and I just like a thin crispy crust but I know my father did program that to me every time I go to Chicago. He lives some ominous voicemail on my phone about promising, making me promise not to eat the

deep dish pizza and remember where I came from and who I descend from with my ancestors. Yeah. In any other context, it could sound really racist, whatever the up talk is, but in this one it's like don't remember your people. But this one it's like, don't remember your people. But this one it's like, don't debase yourself eating that fake nonsense. My dad's wood burning oven and he makes it like the, it's so thin and crispy.

It's just incredible. That's a wood burning oven? Your dad is like a character from a Pixar movie or something. You're telling me, Jack. He sounds so magical. You're telling me, Jack. Just like, I just handmade these locks. You know how many guys I dated who just wanted

to hang out with my dad and talk about smoking fish and I need a lucky pasta? Yeah, the problem is my dad doesn't want to hang out with him. He's like a comedian. That's not a real job. Oh, wow. I love this rom-com.

It's like a comedian who breaks through to your dad, though. My dad's always like, please, can they like sports? Can they know how to cook? You know, just something. He's always like, give me something to work with these guys. They don't like sports. They don't know how to cook. He's like, God, how am I supposed to talk to this guy?

I don't even understand the guy like, Hey dad, this is the guy who's telling you about you like sports or cooking? I'm really bad at it. I'm not really into the whole sports ball thing, you know, and I tend to take, do take out a lot. Get the fuck out of there. You can imagine the, the, um, a few men I've brought through there where he's like, what is this, this guy's an artist?

What is this? Yeah. I can hear him saying, what is this? What is this? You're going to have a, you're going to procreate with this guy. Okay. What does he sell? Like his little paint brushes and they give them money for that.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. He shakes their hand and immediately starts examining them. Yeah. What's going on? He's like, what's wrong with your wrist? Oh my God. I can't squeeze harder.

A firm handshake is one of the most important. He's like, I didn't like that guy's handshake. It's like a dead fish. How's he going to get anywhere in the world? Oh yeah. Now does he wait until the person's gone before he says that? He's really nice. Hey, Blair, get a load of this guy as the handshake's happening. I say all this and yet I haven't brought a man home in several years.

So this is really from the far past. The archives. The archives. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and we'll talk about some of these guys. Some of these newfangled guys. The dang dating apps. We'll be right back. A foot washed up. A shoe with some bones in it. back. A foot washed up a shoe with some bones in it. They had no idea who it was.

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And we're back. We're back. And this is, this is a study in the loosest sense of the words. Yeah. I feel like. Yeah. I mean, look, we love a study. A science study. We love a study. A science study.

We love a study finds out something headline. And this was one that had basically been covered like over the weekend. It got a lot of coverage of saying that a study of dating app shows that men are always trying to date out of their league and women tend to date with within their own desirability, whatever that means. And I was like, okay, whatever the, what the fuck is this? Yeah is this? The study, it comes from a study that was an analysis of like a check dating app and like data from like 10,000 users, heterosexual users. Check CZECH. Yes. Sorry. Yes. We've got a lot of locks, check, checkia. Sorry, the country checkia.

And again, this is what they said, quote, researchers examining dating app behavior found that men engage in what scientists call quote, aspirational pursuit. This means they consistently have been targeting women who quote, are on average, considerably more desirable than themselves. Meanwhile, women flooded with options tend to quote, swipe down slightly toward less popular men. Most aspirational swiping fails to convert into matches, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like study aside, I was like, anytime there's something talking about the dynamics of like men and women dating, I'm like, there's

always going to be some wacky bullshit comment section. And when I saw that the New York Post had posted this study as a headline, I was like, what's the fucking comment section over here? Because I know it's going to be an absolute fucking crisis. And this thing has everything. It's got pickup artists, bullshit, straight up misogyny, anti-Semitism, all because the study pointed out that maybe men are a little out of touch in the era of online dating.

No, the cut the cover of this study, by the way, is a picture of the guy from Revenge of the guy from Revenge of the Nerds with his glasses fogging up and then like the there's a little windshield wipers that come onto his glasses to clear him out because he's a nerd and stuff. I, first of all, I, I'm not going to speak on the veracity of this analysis because I've never used a dating app in my life. I was out of the game before that real height of dating app use. But I'm also like, this study also was taken data comes from July of 2017. I'm like, that's, that's a different world.

I was trying to lob this one up for you, Blair. I will have to say that we don't have to worry about that study being back in 2017. I'm here to reassure you that that data is absolutely sound. Hard, hard data that is, cannot be refuted in 2025. Okay. And, but conversely, I do have to say I, I, I'm only on hinge. I was on Raya like on and off, I do have to say, I'm only on hinge. I was on Raya like on and off, but like, no one ever I get matches, but then no one would ever ask me on a date. And

you know, I already am in a masculine dominated field. I'm not going to be messaging first. At this point, what's the point of being a woman? But with hingeinge, I am still on Hinge, even though I forget to go on it for three months at a time. But I will say that all the Hinge dates I've ever been on have all been really nice guys like I. Every guy has been so kind. And I think my profile is extremely sincere.

Like I have nothing jokey on there. Like if any comedy people see my profile, I'd honestly be humiliated. It's like looking for the love of my life, a man who will be my soulmate husband and be the father of dreams to my children. And so like I, it's just since- Yeah, since serious fuck.

But I think because of that, I have only gone on dates with the nicest people. I've truly never had a horror story. Well, a lot of the comments here are from clearly lonely people or angry boomers who are like, no, he said it was the internet. Yeah. Internet comments. What are they like?

I'm just like, it's so wild. Again, the thing was like very, at the end of like, the conclusion is like, you know, people tend to be happier if they're a little more realistic about like, their desirability or where it like rather than going for maybe their like, sort of sexual desires that are just they're acting out and who they're picking as a mate. But some of these comments, this is so like all of them, it's some version of like, the's some version of

like the New York Post is trying to fucking destroy white men is sort of like the energy a lot of these posts. Rupert Murdoch. Yeah. Quote, you'll never hear anyone telling women to lower their standards. This is again, like the first thing that they're talking about. Yeah. Famously progressive New York Post.

Right. Always so, so kind and fair to women. So women forward. Yeah. They said, they're always encouraged to aim for the high, I'm gonna do it in a New York Post accent. I'm sorry, this is how I'm reading this thing. They're always encouraged to aim for the highest fruit

on the tree of life, no matter how unrealistic. Meanwhile, men are constantly told to, quote, settle, lower their expectations, and accept whatever comes their way. Society treats male standards like a threat, and if you dare to have them you're labeled toxic or entitled. Okay? Just just a man by the name of Jay Yeah, no, I think look I don't like to think too deeply about this stuff because I think that

Ultimately, we're trying to open our hearts and find the soulmate, you know It's not about looks and all this stuff. And so that is a downside of the apps but What any of these dudes be actually approaching a 12 in a bar? No, they wouldn't. So, I mean, if they want to shoot their shot online behind the safety of their screen, who knows? That's what the researchers are kind of like sort of getting to. They're like, it's much easier for a person to do this when there, it's

completely disconnected from like a physical interaction and it's more like, I like much easier for a person to do this when there it's completely disconnected from like a physical interaction. And it's more like, I like this, I don't like this. I like this. Whereas yeah, like in public, it's a much, you know, our, I think, at least for me, I was very, very like, reluctant to approach people because I just didn't like the awkwardness of it. And I had to get over that. It's 100% and I will also say that men have infinitely way more confidence than women. Like, you know, if a woman, no matter how hot she is, sees a really hot guy, like they're

intimidated because there aren't that many hot guys. Women are just more attractive in general, you know? So I don't know. No, I mean, you looked right at me when you said that. And I didn't hurt that many guys. Uh, a lot of hot guys. You lied. I mean, there's a, okay, go ahead.

Is it, it does, it does just feel like this is generally like a worst way to organize a people, like just people in general, like aren't like, they're not in as many relationships as they used to be. People aren't having sex as much as they used to be. Like it feels like there's just a lot of ways in which people are just, I don't know. Yeah. Like this like puts you at a remove and then you're just like, I don't know, fucking gaming people.

It's also funny to like read the comments of the people who are sexually frustrated on dating apps and like see how they communicate themselves. Yeah. It's like, Oh wait, this isn't working. This, this thing where you're saying DEI comes to dating. How about you stop being a gold diggin' emotional train wreck, wannabe men, ladies. Yeah, thanks, Matt.

Wait, that guy's not nailing it? No drama, I don't want any, and I don't want any woman coming after me looking for a free dinner, you know, like all this stuff. I'm like, honey, I love that you're worried about gold diggers when you make 15 grand a year, you know, You never know. You never. Well, again, because that's like a lot of people just ingesting all of that content. And again, not being not in practice experiencing that in the real world.

Like a lot of people just hear this kind of shit, but that's how the world is like for you even though. I don't really get out. I don't really talk to anybody. I can imagine, though. There's another one. This is just real quick The guy that I just read the DEI comes dating. How about you stop being gold diggin emotional trait that that guy put his first and last name There's one that's a guy named Nelson and he leaves a terrible one He's like now men need to seek Sherman prosecutions against monopolistic practices from dating companies, hegemons that run on certain group politics and essentially defame men who don't align with politics promoted by the hegemony

and often their unlawful collaborations with defamatory and unconstitutional operations by the FBI and local authorities. Before questioning this, realize first who is telling you, signed Nelson. The guy who signed the comment. Nelson, you need to go outside, babe. You need to go outside, see grass. There's, nah, there's dangerous brown people outside. I read it here in the New York Post.

I'm fine. Also first and last name on that one. Yeah, first and last again, it's because it's boomer comments. They're like links to their fucking Facebooks. Yeah, that guy hasn't had sex in like 15 years. It also depends on what you're looking for with dating. Like, I definitely give a lot of chances. Not a lot. I'm pretty busy.

But to people where I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm not looking at that, guys. But I think that's the difference between men and women. Like women are able to see like the totality of a person like I go On dates with guys all the time where I'm not like wowed by they're like, oh my god That's the hottest guy they're seeing but I'm like, oh, maybe they're a great person Maybe they would end up being the love of my life Well, I think the other part is to like I used to be so be so superficial when I did, I only wanted to date people that were like me, where it's like, do you like the same shows? Do you like the same music? And I was not really, I was not experiencing

like the fullest breadth of life, because I was kind of like really interested in people, the exact same things. And by expanding just my horizons to be like, okay, maybe this person doesn't like the exact same shit. I like that there's something more to that. And then you kind of begin to understand what companionship means to you. It wasn't like they got to like breaking bad or my life's going to suck. It's like, Oh, they deeply care about me.

I'm, I feel comfortable enough around this person to be vulnerable. Like those are like the things that I realized over time. I'm like, Oh, that's, that's actually when you, you feel like you're like, I want to die with this person. That's what I want rather than do they like belly? It takes a long time to learn that stuff. You know, do they like belly is like, what, how my seven year old, not even my nine year, how my seven year old like takes his friends. He's just like, do they like

the specific type of Lego that I like? Then we're good takes his friend. He's just like, do they like the specific type of Lego? Yeah, I like then we're good But if they don't like we have some work to do like honestly were like it can still work out But like we we need to work at this relationship. Yeah, find a companion find a companion You know like Ninjago. Oh, he doesn't like Ninjago? Dad, kick him out. He just said he didn't like him. Kick him out. His parents aren't picking him up for another two hours. I don't care. Get him out. Get him the fuck out of here.

All right. I think this is like a somewhat related story. So in the context of the CEO and the head of HR getting caught in an embrace at the Coldplay show, immediately like diving through a window to try and deny the reality of what we all witnessed. People, Wired wrote an article where they're like, this is actually part of a growing trend, a boom in online private investigators, who people hire to be like, I think my spouse is cheating, can you look into this?

And then they like post the results like on they'll, they'll blur the person's face, but they will show like the person getting caught. Yeah. Yeah. It's and like on the one hand, it's usually women PI doing it for a woman who thinks their spouse is cheating in at least the people that's covered in this article, which I think is crucial and makes it much more harmless than otherwise, uh, than like just basically the social media equivalent of that TV show cheaters.

Mm. Mm. Which was fake. It also, they're like, yeah, all of the people we interviewed for this article have their private investigator licensing and seem to be doing it from a perspective of, we want to give women a place that feels safe where they can look into things and not have to like hire a guy in a trench coat who's like also trying to sleep with them or whatever.

Oh, this guy's a scumbag. Anyway, you like lasagna? Big Tracy. Yeah, exactly. Like the men who get into being private investigators. It's like, I can't imagine what that. They're like all former criminals. That feels like a New York Post comment too.

It's like, fellas, ever since I became a PI, I've been doing great with dating. Just the tips. You know, you're like, oh God. But I do feel like it's a, it's another thing where we're, you know, at a remove, everybody's kind of lonely. Everybody's experiencing the world at a remove and through digital interfaces. And so we're consuming this shit just to feel schadenfreude. And I guess it's the same thing that people used to experience through gossiping at work

in person. But it does feel like if it becomes less and less regulated and more and more just like fucking, I watch Andrew tape videos and I'm also going to be a PI. Like that. I feel like that could go in a very dark direction. Oh, like the perspective in which you try to uncover, quote, the truth for people to help them. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. I have a few thoughts on this. I think this is a really a lot of this is about the past, you know, five years of people deciding the growing unrest against billionaires.

We saw it with the submarine explosion, all that. And it started to go the fact that this guy is a billion. The submarine explosion is a great example. I've been using just Luigi Mangione and this CEO guy, but yeah, the submarine example. No, because here's the thing. Women get so angry about cheating, but you're not going to see men across the country, like going nuts about a dude cheating. They're like, okay, that's like, yeah, yeah, that guy's baller. Yeah, yeah, that guy's baller.

And, but that in combination, yeah, like I think people were like, oh, and it was just so public and brazen. Like, you know, this wasn't like someone getting caught cheating, like when photos, when they're like getting paparazzi found them, like getting out of a car somewhere. Like this isn't the most public forum. So it just felt more brazen, like a, like a thing. You know, I think like that shot in Freud. I think a lot of it, like, to your point, like Blair is that just generally we feel so powerless in terms of what like the wealthy do that any kind of comeuppance is going to be embraced immediately because you feel like, I just want to see some accountability somewhere. Right.

Because I feel like a lot of that is simmering underneath a lot of, especially in our society, is where's the accountability for people that are actually affecting our lives negatively, truly in a tangible way. And I think so when the CEO sort of category of person kind of intersects with that. And then when you see that you're like, yeah, exactly. Yeah, fuck you. I got no sympathy for this motherfucker. And now you get so hungry for it that will like allow it to be a submarine implosion that like killed a bunch of other people will still be like, ah, fucking CEO piece of shit. Not me. I can't. I still, my friends are like, I can't celebrate people dying like that. But I do not think this country cares about extramarital cheating in the way that the reaction to this, it's much more about him being a billionaire. No, it's much more about him being a

billionaire. No, it's the humiliation. Yes. And the Trump culture where it feels like, oh, there's just no laws for these guys. They are truly running over society. The Elon, all the whole Elon mess for the last year or two. And yeah, I just think it brought a lot of people feeling like they could take power back by witnessing that. Also the way they freaking dove out of the way. This was exactly, I will be

vulnerable with you for one moment. I was pulling, I'm not proud of this, but I was pulling into my parents' neighborhood. You know, we got a lot of like family emergencies happening. And I text my mom pulling up and a cop drove by me. And instead of putting my phone down sly, slyly, I threw it. Like I was that goddamn CEO and like was at the least like cool you could be in that situation and immediately got pulled over and got a ticket. And I was like, oh, rightfully so, absolutely. And I was like crying because I was upset about my brother and I was like, he was so nice to me and I was like,

you have a really nice bedside manner for being an evil demon. I didn't say the demon part, but I meant to be like for being a fucking pig. You fear you break out of your car. You're a fucking pig. Motherfucker. Give me my fucking ticket. Also, is it okay if I get out of my car to pick up my phone? I know I threw it out the window while we were.

And look, I have been wrong before because of my autism, um, about I've been wrong maybe 1 million times, but, um, I do believe this was the one nice cop. In existence. Sure. Sure. Sure. Yeah. You found, you found that cop.

It's just a few bad ones out there. It is what I'm told. That's what I'm saying. Or are spooling on the whole bunch. Except for Mariska Hargitay. Yeah. That's right. Right.

Right. I remember growing up, there was a cop that came to our neighborhood for a block party and did the Macarena. And he was all right. He was all right. Hey, that guy. Or those cops, those stories where it's like an old person commits a crime. Cause they're like whatever. And they come back like, and old person commits a crime. Cause they're like, whatever.

And they come back like, and make them dinner or something. Cause they were hungry and you're like, Oh, that's good. That's a good cop. Good job. The thing was that cop, it was just this stripper who lived in the neighborhood who had a coffee in a farm. Cause he was, he had way too much honey in those hips when he was in the mockery.

Oh my God, Miles. Body roll. Honey in the hips. Yeah. doing the mockery. Oh my God, Miles. Yeah, I'm not saying they have a body roll to the mockery. Body in the hips. Yeah, I didn't know until later on, my mom was like, you know, that was a stripper, right? That wasn't an actual cop. No, for real?

I don't tell tales, is that it? No, I'm lying. Oh, okay. Oh my God, Jack, even I knew that one. Wait, for real? Wait, Blair, was the person who pulled you over with a stripper. Was that a stripper? I believe more strippers should be men is my personal belief. Anytime I see a dude properly hit a body roll. Oh my god, they were

stripper. Too many people are too fucking stiff with the body roll. At the very least many to be body rolling harder, sexier. And I like a man being objectified in a workplace setting. Hey, yeah. Speaking of object objectified in a workplace setting, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about that Sydney Sweeney campaign. We'll be right back. A foot washed up a shoe with some bones in it. They had no idea who it was.

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podcasts. And we're back. We're back. We're back. And we're back. Mm-hmm. And Sydney Sweeney is back with a, so there was the bath water infused soap thing that happened where she was selling soap that

had bath water in it to people and it immediately sold out. And now, yeah. Her bath water? Her bath water. Was it Dr. Squatch or whatever? Dr. Squatch. Oh, it's like a weird sex thing? Like men who wanted a piece of her.

Oh, okay. That's like men sometimes DM me asking for my socks or underwear. Yeah. Like the vibe. I think a humble brag. Well, Sydney Sweeney is why her team has a lot of interesting choices for her. She watches like such. It's I guess she's now the face of American Eagle, which would be the doctor

Squatch of like clothe ears. It's like not is that brand like pop is it like coming back? Oh, yeah, that's what all the girls who wouldn't talk to me in high school wore. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was like that was like the American. Imagine you being cool in high school. I was. But that was like I mean the problem was I was dating somebody. That's why I didn't talk to me. Yeah.

What's their problem? Yeah. So she is, uh, dropping some branded, uh, the, the branded Sydney Jean on all of our asses and it is to raise proceeds for a nonprofit that provides mental health support. So that is good. gene on all of our asses and it is to raise proceeds for a nonprofit that provides mental health support. So that is good. Okay.

The campaign is being praised by people on the right for quote, ending woke ads because finally there's an advertisement using sex to sell a product. I'm actually surprised it took this long. That's, that you'd think they would have tried that before. I forgot how to, I forgot that sex was a thing until I saw this commercial. That's right. Just crazy. Cause it's such a de-sexualized environment ambiently.

It is weird. Like the way the mainstream media is writing about this, they're like, some critics claim it over sexualsexualizes a serious cause that like the, the objection should be that it's like too sexy and she's doing it to raise funds for mental health stuff, but like you can't be sexy while raising funds for supporting people's mental health. However, some people have pointed out that the actual text of the ad says that Sydney Sweeney has good genes as in genes. Like it's a very, it's a double entendre the whole time.

And that's a minor blue, which it's so it's like a, it's a genetics double entendre, which some people are pointing out, feels very eugenics-y. What's wrong with eugenics? Who are the people that believed in that? They're just trying to make the best people, right? Yeah, and it's culturally apropos right now. Right. It does feel like that has to have happened, that conversation, right?

I don't know. We've been watching a billion-dollar thing to be like, is this going to be weird that we're saying like blonde eye, blue eyed, blonde white woman like should be the face of good genes. Yeah. And this is why I actually serves these people's bottom. These dumbasses. Right. So one person be like, I don't know. Do y'all know about eugenics or? Yeah.

Should I bring this up in this meeting or? Yeah, that's why I actually serves these capitalist motives. You know, well, on some level, right. But unfortunately, the most most of the time companies interacting with are just like, I don't know. So we got to like hire some more like brown people or like women. Oh, fuck. What happens if we don't? Our stock price goes down? All right, then we'll do it.

They did DEI and then discontinued it on because they no longer had to because people weren't telling them they had to. Also, they were like that. The stuff they said was annoying to me. I always say these people, I'm always shocked when people, when they don't do the right thing, not because I expect them to do it, the right thing, but because it doesn't serve their own interests.

I'm like, it's like when a guy says something in this day and age, like post me to where you're like, well, you could lose everything for saying, enjoying that. Like, like, I know you don't care about women, like even in the slightest, but aren't you worried about like losing your entire company and fortune? Sorry, I have no concept of the stakes like that because of what my male privilege has done for me this entire time. That's always my first thought though. I'm like, yeah, like just this is a dumb business decision Yeah, right like like if I were you

Look the 15 white people that I talked to that are worth over five million dollars each they thought it was they didn't find this Offensive at all. They didn't they they actually so what you have to understand is this is so this is So what you have to understand is this is, so this is weird. Some people are saying that this is merely a callback to the nothing comes between me and my Calvin's Calvin Klein commercial, which like that's something I've referenced before. It is one of the wildest like cultural fucking pieces of like evidence of like how just like fucking creepy everything was at the end of the 70s and early 80s, when it was just like white guys were just given full, all gas, no break control of everything. And they were just like, well, a little bit of being thinking 15-year-olds is okay.

Thinking 15-year-olds are attractive is okay. Because they had a Calvin Klein ad with Brooke Shields at 15 where they like pan up her body and in the same way. Like I do think this is a visual reference to this. And then she says, nothing comes between me and my Calvins. And people were like, you know, that's fucking weird. She's 15. But not enough people were like that at the time to the point that now they're like, that would actually be a fun thing to make a reference, to make reference to.

So it's like the defense of this seems to be, no, it's just a reference to this old pedophile ad. Right. Yeah, but it would add nothing. The defense could potentially be valid had there not been that last word in the slogan. Right. Yeah.

You know? Like. Sydney Sweeney has good genes. It's again, I go to the Fox News story post about it because I got to see the comments. Oh man. And. I'm assuming it has something to do with woke.

Oh, my God. Dude, it's a bunch. Look, this is the most benign one. Never thought of whiteness when I hear that phrase. I think of beauty, health, and longevity when I say someone has great genes. Holly Berry, great genes. That's like Denzel.

I like a black actor. I'm not racist. Guys, look, Denzel is my favorite actor. I'm just saying, give the police a chance. Oh, Jesus. Let's hear them out. It's nice to see a woman without an excessive backside tattoos and a nose ring. Oh my God. Again.

An excessive backside? Oh my God. Oh God. Yeah, but a lot of people are exhausting. So maybe we're just like, it's not racist. Like one person's like, it's not racist. She has good genes. She should thank her ancestors.

There's nothing Nazi about that. And you're like, oh God. But you know, again, these are people from different perspectives. They've never thought of themselves as oppressed. So they're not sensitive to anything surrounding that topic. What are you talking about? Slavery is reverse racism.

Yeah, I didn't think I didn't think of that. If you think of that, you're racist. I don't think about race because my race doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't affect me. My race doesn't affect me ever. So it's not this is racist to think about it. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. You're bringing up racism and that's racist. Yeah. Yeah. That is really that is legitimately how they think, though. Yeah. Yep. Anyways, people are like, it's so many people are doing the like,

it'd be fine if it was Salma High like you were putting women of color as like to swap it out to try and defend it. They're like, even Zendaya, I believe has good genes. You're like, oh, wow. And these, these people are trying to pretend they're not full blown Nazis, but with their sorted logic where they're like, I would have been fine if it was this other woman of color, perhaps, perhaps not. I don't know.

That's not the reality. So I can't really say. Yeah. Perhaps not. I don't know. That's not the reality, so I can't really say. Yeah. I did like the tweet from Desus who said, she's living out her initials, Sydney Sweeney. Blair Saki, man. As always, such a pleasure having you on the podcast.

Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff. God, this is just incredible for me um my all my socials are at blairsaki b-l-a-i-r-s-o-c-c-i come say hi on there it makes me so happy and when you guys uh say hi to me at shows and say zeit gang it truly makes me so happy so So thanks for that. I have my last tour date of the summer this Saturday at Dallas comedy club two shows I Have not sold very many tickets So if you're in the area or could tell someone you know that would very help me so it doesn't get cancelled Dallas Austin, I know you're only a few hours away

Dallas Austin, I know you're only a few hours away. San Antonio, Houston, baby. Baby. Uh, do it. Go, go support Blair. Let her know. And don't be like, don't, don't be shouting zeitgang during the show. Yeah. Yeah.

Don't heckle it. Do it at the end. Zeitgang! What? Huh? I love zeitgang. Coming to the stage, Blair, sock you. Zeitgang!

I love Zeit Gang. Coming to the stage, Blair, sog you. Zeit Gang! I love Zeit Gang! Blair, is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Yeah, I have two off the top of my head. The first one is one of my best friends, Amy Silverberg's new novel that came out this week called First Time Long Time. She's a very hilarious stand-up comedian and also a PhD. Just brilliant and I'm so proud of her. So pick up that book because it's incredible. And then also, like my favorite pieces of media I saw this week besides the South Park episode that I watched five times is all the Scottish people's signs when Trump came.

These people are hilarious, medieval, witchy. I saw this one tweet of this woman picture. It says, Trump, may your arse break out in boils, you scunner. I was like, oh my God. These people, the Scottish people are hysterical, medieval witches, like unbelievable funny. I saw so many other funny ones too. Pictures of the Scottish protests.

You got to go on Scottish tick-tock. That's really. You're on Scottish tick-tock. I didn't even know there was a tick-tock that I'm not a part of. Just the Scottish slang, just all of it. I'm just so enamored with the accent. Yeah. They're so funny.

Oh, yes. Go, no, yes. Gunner about your arse break out in boils. Yes. Gunner. Like I haven't heard. I haven't heard boil since I was in Bedlam in the 1600s. You are fucking high.

Wonder. I knew it. I love it. Skin. We knew it. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Yeah, go everywhere at miles of gray,

where they have ad symbols. You can find me talking about 90 Day Fiance on 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra. A work of media I like, just all the Ghislaine Maxwell stuff. It's very varied. The Onion posted one last week when she was doing that meeting with the Department of Justice.

It said at the Onion, that on Blue Sky posted quote, ''Wow, you've got the whole room tarped up. You guys doing some painting later?'' That's what Ghislaine Maxwell said. I love that. The Onion is just incredible. That's great. You guys doing some painting later? You guys, I'm sure, already talked about the South Park episode extensively. We did.

We talked about it for sure. No, I know you did. But oh my God. I'm dying for Thursday to come so I can see the next one. Didn't that episode feel like when a kid says, fuck you to a teacher? And you go, ooh, I'm dying for Thursday to come so I can see the next one. Didn't that episode feel like when a kid says, fuck you to a teacher and you go, ooh. No, I was like the first episode, the first time I watched it, I watched five times,

I was like, oh, I was just like, oh shit. Oh, I was like, bitches, as gnarly as this was scorched. They go hard. I was like, but I don't know if they've ever gone this hard, ever. This is the hardest episode of the million episodes. It's like, go ahead and try and destroy the show after this. We will only become more powerful. Unbelievable.

I overheard, it went viral in the old-fashioned way where I overheard, like it went viral in the old fashioned way where like I overheard like I heard like a 30 something guy telling his grandfather or like a very old guy about it and being like, yeah, so he's like, South Park is a show. He's like, yeah, it has him like having sex with the devil. And then like it shows his little penis at the end. And then he was like, where can I watch it? Then some started showing it to him.

On his phone? Yeah, on his phone in a restaurant. I told so many people in person about it. I was just floored. I heard multiple people telling other people about it. This was one of the few times I've told her majesty, check out this YouTube video I'm about to to play you and she watched the whole thing. Yeah.

Most of the time she's like, what the fuck is this? But I was like, and I kept going to show his dick and they're going to watch to show my fucking dick at the end. And the fact that they made it is real head like they didn't animate him. It was just unbelievable. The whole thing was amazing. Well, well done. This is a trade Parker and Matt Stone.

Yeah, we love you. You're gonna, you're pushing, you're pushing. Let's see what happens. Keep it up guys. The last bastion. You made everyone in the class go, ooh. Holy shit. Oh, fuck you teacher.

World star, world star. World star, they should have had the episode end with somebody shouting World Star. What's this World Star they're talking about at the end? What was my penis saying? Keep it up. See what happens. This is also what I imagine Trump's saying.

Cool Texas Timothy tweeted, a guy that was just on Epstein's Island for the zipline. Yeah, I saw that. That was so funny. That was hysterical. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien on Blue Sky at Jack OB the number one. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

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I want to feel like it's summer and I'm out there moving my body This track is called handle with care by the DJ producer conducta Just making really great dance music from Bristol in it. Um, so yeah, check this one out. It's handle with care conducta This is like a sweaty Mm-hmm. Oh, right again. Oh Select us aren't we? Selecta. The Daily Zyte Guys is a production of iHeartRadio for more podcasts from iHeartRadio. Visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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