The Daily Zeitgeist - American Made Assassins, It’s Not A Tuna?! 6.24.21

Episode Date: June 24, 2021

In episode 937, Jack and Miles are joined by This Is Americans Live co-hosts Aristotle Athiras and Andy Harris to discuss US trained assassins, the real reason young people aren't buying homes, the Su...bway tuna sandwich, and more!FOOTNOTES: Saudi Operatives Who Killed Khashoggi Received Paramilitary Training in U.S. WHEN WALL STREET IS YOUR LANDLORD Investment Firms Aren’t Buying All the Houses. But They Are Buying the Most Important Ones. Boomers are the Real Reason Millenials Won’t Be Buying Homes Anytime Soon The Big Tuna Sandwich Mystery LISTEN: Dirty Art Club - Rerun Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:20 It's Thursday, June 24th, 2021. Cherit Consciousness. It's Thursday, June 24th, 2021. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. People try to throw us out. Talking about defenestration. We're gonna splat onto the ground.
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Starting point is 00:02:58 Bro, bro. Come on, bro. Get your body stuck with a needle stuck. Hey, hey, hey, come on, bro. Let antibodies into the blood for you. No, you can't do it. Please get your motherfucking vaccinations. So anyway, Christy Yamaguchi-Main.
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Starting point is 00:03:38 to be joined by the very funny and talented improvisers who are the creators and not hosts, but talent on the new Big Money Players Network podcast. Creative force behind the new show on the Big Money Players Network.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network. The show is called This is Americans Live. It is a fully improvised satire on another lesser podcast you've probably never heard of called this american life please welcome aristotle a theorist and andy harris thank you thank you that was nice do we need to sing our own intro like you guys did or if you
Starting point is 00:04:21 want i mean you got some you got me uh and mean, if you got some. Yeah. Andy? I'll play the instrumental and you sing. Ready? Okay. All right. Here we go. Here we go. The delay.
Starting point is 00:04:36 We're happy to be here. Let's talk about some stuff that you've decided we should talk about. Nice. Good job, right, guys? Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. You guys let me know when we're starting. That was thoroughly good, as we were saying. That was George thoroughly good, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:54 It was George thoroughly meh. Yeah. What's new with y'all? Where are you guys at? Where are you at in the world? Los Angeles for me. He's in Los Angeles, too. Where are you guys at where you out in the world los angeles for me okay he's in los angeles too where are you guys hey los angeles you know where else where else the podcasting capital of the
Starting point is 00:05:13 earth i'm in pittsburgh at my in-laws house so they hear me doing all the shit that you just heard me do uh oh right lucky lucky them they have no references to what you're doing they're just like they just hear you singing because i told to what you're doing. They're just like, they just hear you singing. Because I told them I'm a lawyer. So they're just like, why is he always... To impress them. Yeah, exactly. Your honor.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I mean, that seemed to work in 90s movies. That song was always the best way to introduce anything. I also, my mother-in-law cut me up some asian melon and i just realized that that is a crunchy food that i should not be eating while recording so apologies to anybody who's turned off by the sounds of my teeth crunching through uh a nice crunchy firm melon yeah yeah let me see it's good it. It's good. Prove it. He's eating rocks again, folks. It's like white. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:08 It's bright white melon. Yeah. Musk melon. That's sometimes called. Yeah. I don't even. Yeah. I just know that it's always at the Korean grocery store.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Maybe it's not even called Asian melon. And that was just me being racist. It's an apple. Come to these Asian melons. They taste just like a Granny Smith. I thought he was going to show us candied almonds. They call these melons. In the Korean culture, this is called melons.
Starting point is 00:06:41 That's popcorn, bro. I guess I'm being healthy today. That's popcorn bro I guess I'm being healthy today So you guys have been Homies for a long time Is this the first project that you've Worked on together or What was your back story
Starting point is 00:06:55 As a team Well we were in an improv group together A long time ago We was performing a show called Let's Do This at UCB And then also we did a lot of the cage matches There and what not And then We used to perform at a show called Let's Do This at UCB. And then also we did a lot of the cage matches there and whatnot. And then we used to do two-man.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Yeah, we had a two-man team for a while, a two-man group for a while. For a short while, yeah. And then, you know, things happen. People grow apart. Hugh started making money
Starting point is 00:07:18 doing his radio stuff. And then I started, you know, doing my thing. And we hadn't seen each other in a long time. But as far as like outside of that, yeah, this is the first thing that we had done together. And we've been toying with the idea for a minute.
Starting point is 00:07:31 You know, I'd come with I'd come to him with like podcast ideas. You'd be like, yeah, that works. That doesn't work. We try some stuff out. We record it. And, you know, he would add his little flavor to it. Yeah. After after a while, we reunited when had a uh he did a show with
Starting point is 00:07:46 the improv as um who who are you you were uh the drug lord uh pablo pablo pablo escobar yeah and he brought me in to play ronald reagan and uh it was it was pretty it was a pretty bad ronald reagan impression i thought it was pretty good. Yeah, it wasn't good. Well, the Ira Glass on This Is Americans Live, I think that's you, Aristotle, right? Yeah, that is me, yeah. It's so good, man. It is.
Starting point is 00:08:14 You like it? Yeah. I've heard a lot of Ira Glasses in my time, and this is the best one by far. And yeah, this show's really funny. You guys are amazing together. together and yeah people need to go check it out it drops this weekend right it did it did already
Starting point is 00:08:30 yeah it just dropped it dropped on the 20th I think the 20th and today is the 24th yeah so you're a little behind Jack yeah my bad that's alright I was too busy celebrating Father's Day Father's Day yeah showered with gifts he was celebrating the launch of This is Americans Live celebrating Father's Day. Father's Day, yeah. Showered with gifts.
Starting point is 00:08:48 He was celebrating the launch of This Is Americans Live. Yes. On all podcast platforms. Well, people can go check it out right now then, and they ought to. We are going to get to know you guys a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about the U.S. training of some of the assassins who killed Jamal Khashoggi.
Starting point is 00:09:09 We're going to talk about why young people don't own homes because Wall Street does. Wall Street's buying all the houses across the country. Obviously, the big story for the day on this show and in our lives collectively, Miles especially, there's new news about the Subway Tuna mystery. What is in Subway Tuna? The New York Times. New York Times, I think, listens to the Daily Zeitgeist because yesterday they had a big feature that was like, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:38 in-depth reporting on the Britney Spears case. And now they just did a update on the subway tuna mystery uh and did not find any tuna present in the subway tuna sandwich geez wheeze uh all of that plenty more but first aristotle andy yes what is something from your search histories that's revealing about who you guys are. Well, I will say the most searched thing lately is this is Americans Live Andy Harris. Uh-huh. So I can check on the reviews because I'm obsessed with myself. Right. Of course.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Of course. Yeah. Very honest answer. Also, that's the number one thing trending on Google right now. Yes. Right. A lot of traffic coming out of L.A. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:28 On Parler. Yeah. My search history was I was Googling Andy Googling himself. Right. On Google. Should I be worried? Should I be worried? I was Googling, you know know like side effects and like you know
Starting point is 00:10:45 i've been obsessed with what's ahead of me in regards to like you know after the second i know after the second dose people get really kind of a little blue you know so for those who don't know i just i just got my second dose of the of the vaccine and so i was just kind of research i've been researching a lot of that yeah and how And how are you feeling? Feeling okay? I'm feeling okay. Yeah, a little lethargic. I got a little bit of a headache. Not really. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I've had hangovers that are worse than this. So it's not really anything. It's nothing like, oh, I'm really sick. If that part of my memory had been erased that I actually got the shot yesterday, I would just think, today I'm just having an off day. So that's good. Yeah. I would just think today I'm just having an off day.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Right. So that's good. Yeah. My wife, my wife is a pain physician and I was having this like weird phantom pain in my knee the other day. And she was like, okay, well like,
Starting point is 00:11:34 where is it on a scale of one to 10? Like think about the worst pain you've ever had. And I was like, I don't know what that is. I think it might be a hangover. I think my hangovers were that bad. The worst pain I've ever experienced? That might be the worst pain I've ever experienced.
Starting point is 00:11:46 In your knee? Well, no, no. Just like she was asking like the highest point of pain that I've ever experienced. Right. Like I would have 24 hours where like my head would be in just the most pain I can imagine. A headache causing. And then also nauseous on top of it. Wait, what's a phantom pain in your knee?
Starting point is 00:12:10 I didn't know where it came from. Oh, okay. Yeah. And I thought that sounded cooler than unimaginary pain. But you knew where in your knee it was hurting, right? Yes. Yeah. So it's not like a phantom limb where you felt like
Starting point is 00:12:25 you were drawing a second. Yeah, that is probably not the correct term. And you weren't referencing the Metal Gear Solid game either, right? No, I was referencing Phantom Thread, the Paul Thomas Anderson movie. That makes more sense. Yeah. Yeah, because I feel
Starting point is 00:12:41 like I have phantom pains all the time. I don't know where the fuck any of them come from. Right. Yeah and and then it just kind of went away i think it might have been actually a cramp from being dehydrated right is is my leading hypothesis right now okay yeah i was referencing phantom thread because i think it also was caused by my wife poisoning me with mushrooms ah phantom thread ref for thereread ref for all the heads out there. That happens in that film? You just ruined the movie. I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 00:13:12 It's not like. It's not the whole thing. It's interesting. I did just watch an episode of Law & Order SVU where that happens too. So is it possible that Phantom Thread lifted that from an old episode of Law & Order SVU? I think all of these things are... That's right. That's an accusation I'm happy to make.
Starting point is 00:13:30 That's something that I think happens more than we think. Like, people have pointed out that a lot of M. Night Shyamalan plots, or at least a couple of them, were pulled from Nickelodeon shows. Oh, really? Yeah. Are you afraid of the dark and shit?
Starting point is 00:13:45 Yeah, I think either Are You Afraid of the Dark or Goosebumps had an episode that was basically beat for beat, sixth sense, with the twists and everything. Oh, no shit. Yeah. It makes sense.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I mean, Anna Perna Pictures has been just mired in controversy for the amount of concepts that they lift from different like dick wolf shows is that true no phantom thread i mean zero dark 30 we all remember that episode of svu but if you if you are somebody who's a writer and like works in the realm of like plot like you're always looking for ideas, I'm sure. Whether you're watching,
Starting point is 00:14:27 reading a children's book or whatever. Yeah, sure. Sometimes an idea just pops in your head. You don't even know where it came from. And sometimes it originated from something like that. Yeah, of course. You know? I had this one idea
Starting point is 00:14:40 where Arnold Schwarzenegger would play a cyborg, right? And he'd come back. Right. I'm being serious. serious comes from the future it was specifically schwarzenegger and then he teaches kindergarten he teaches kindergarten class and yeah exactly and he's cleaning up the chalkboard with an eraser and he's like you've been erased yeah there you go you've been erased yeah and he's pregnant yeah his brother's danny devito we all we all had this idea we've all had this dream before i mean what writer's room hasn't
Starting point is 00:15:11 had that idea floating around what is something you guys think is overrated social interaction in what sense what do you mean like you're you're just over it you're not you're not doing it again doing things going and doing things because that was the that was the whole thing during the pandemic is like oh i can't wait to get out and go do stuff again it's like then you gotta then you gotta go do stuff wait what enjoy this while you can enjoy doing nothing right i could never understand like every oh I can't wait to go to a restaurant again. Like who wants to go to a sit in a room with all these people eating? I do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:53 That's very overrated. Infuriatingly overrated. You look furious, man. Yeah. I'm so mad about it. Pretty cheesed. Right. How's that manifesto coming along?
Starting point is 00:16:08 Cheesed is the best way to describe being overrated. You know someone's mad when they describe it as cheesed. I think he's got a gun on him. He said cheesed. Right. Aristotle, you come up with anything you think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:16:24 I think Law & Order SV is overrated. Whoa! Because my wife watches it all the fucking time. She's seen every episode, but she watches it over and over and over again. It's like that or The Voice. Her favorite shows run on this spectrum. On one side, it's like singing competition or murder The Voice. Her favorite shows run on this spectrum. It's like on one side, it's like singing competition. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Or murder and rape. Right. That's what she likes. All right. Why haven't we talked about this? I am, I'm not joking. I'm in the middle of binge watching all of the episodes of Law & Order SVU.
Starting point is 00:17:02 That's why I was talking about it just now. You and Maura should have a conversation about it just now. I just got to... You and Maura should talk. I stopped it. I just stopped at season 12 when Stabler leaves the show because he shoots a girl. I don't know anything about what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Talk about spoiling things. I'm only on season 11. Oh, my God. She just watches it all the time. It's like, I always tell her, I was like, if there was like,
Starting point is 00:17:28 and then, and then she, and then she likes like murder mystery shows and a lot of like just stuff that just heinous crimes. And like the joke is the house is like, if there was a show where you would see like somebody who, uh, it's like a,
Starting point is 00:17:40 it starts off as like a singing competition show. And then the person's on stage and And then they're singing their heart out. And there's three chairs, right? With all the chairs turned back. Yeah, the voice. And the person on stage is going, Uh-uh, uh-uh. And then all of a sudden you see the buttons go,
Starting point is 00:17:57 And then the chairs turn. And then each one of the people have guns. And they're like, They mow down the person. And the person dies on stage. I'm like like that would be your favorite show of all time right right arnold schwarzenegger is one of the hosts right yeah you would yeah for sure i don't know the judges were you guys schwarzenegger or stallone guys i like both voice uh jack i think is more stallone because of Rocky. I was just because of like just by I think now I like Schwarzenegger movies better. But growing up, I was full Rocky Rambo.
Starting point is 00:18:33 My dad would go see the Rambo movies when they came out in theaters and then tell me about them the next morning over breakfast. Like it was the most detailed conversations we ever had. like it was the most detailed conversations we ever had and then he let me go see rambo 3 in the theater which was i was way too young to do that you kind of you kind of looked like the guy who'd be the actor who would be cast as stallone's son in a movie oh man that means so much to me like i've really built my life towards that compliment uh that means so much to me. You honor me, sir. Yeah, I'm more Schwarzenegger. Speaking of Sylvester Stallone, coincidentally,
Starting point is 00:19:13 that is my... Nothing gets me more cheesed than... He's cheesed again, folks. There's a scene, it's the most upsetting scene, upsetting line in all of cinema, is the Rocky movie where they're where they go to Los Angeles. They're going to fight Clubber Lang, whichever one that is.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Yeah. OK. OK. And Bert. Bert Young. Is that his name? Whoever the whoever that guy, that guy, the the the trainer, maybe the Paul, the drunk. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:44 OK. OK. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the drunk. Yeah. OK. OK. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pauly. OK. So so they they cut to they're in Los Angeles. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:51 And it's an exterior shot of the gym in Los Angeles. Yeah. And Pauly says, what the hell are we doing in Los Angeles, Rock? OK, so I'm supposed to believe that they got him on a plane. They got him on a plane. They got him on a plane. They took the four, five-hour flight from Philadelphia to Los Angeles. He never asked during that entire time
Starting point is 00:20:16 why they were going to Los Angeles. He was drunk the whole time, dude. Yeah. He waited until now. Yeah, he was passed out on the plane. He woke up with a cigar in his mouth. Yeah, of course. So they hop a flight, they get in a cab,
Starting point is 00:20:32 they drive to the venue. Never did it cross his mind to ask why. Anyway, so cheesed. Nothing cheeses me more than that. I feel like that is I think Stallone wrote that movie i think he definitely directed it and it's just it's peak stallone movie like logic where
Starting point is 00:20:56 it's the characters kind of know their movie characters like they're not doing anything that's remotely right approximating realistic behavior. They know they're in a fucking training montage. That's why they keep doing the same race over and over again, multiple days in the same outfits. Well, even then he should know. So he knows he's a character. He's read the script. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:22 He knows what happens in the third act. Yeah, but he had to exposition. That's like the great line in the Rocky Balboa film that we love on this show. The sporting board is telling him he can't box because he might die and he accepts the ruling and then comes back
Starting point is 00:21:38 and says, wait, hold on, don't I got any rights? And they're like, oh, let us know, sir, what are your rights? To die in the ring because you're like, oh. Let us know, sir. What are your rights? To die in the ring because you're so elderly? I don't know. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 How did they not see already? It's like, I mean, he sounds like he has brain damage. Have you listened to yourself, Rocky? What are you talking about? You know, it's about the suit of happiness. It's interesting, though, because it fades in and out. He seems very damaged in Rocky 1 and the beginning of
Starting point is 00:22:08 Rocky 2, and then it kind of goes away for Rocky 3 and Rocky 4, and then he's brain damaged again in Rocky 5. It's an interesting form of brain damage that just is convenient plot-wise. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:24 You don't have brain damage when you're... Yeah, the more money he has, the less brain damage he has. Yeah, you know my brain damage comes and goes, you know? Depends on if I'm using the HGH, you know? It makes my head bigger, so it makes my brain larger and less damage. All right, that's the best one. That's the best one of all the
Starting point is 00:22:48 Stallones that have been. There's a lot of truth in that. What's something you guys think is underrated? I guess that Pauly line was your thing. I've already given you my answer. That's an underrated line in film. It's underrated how upsetting that line is.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Andy, go. You always talk about things that are underrated how upsetting that line is Andy go you always talk about things that are underrated preparation preparation for for podcasts that's underrated yeah I definitely should have done that
Starting point is 00:23:20 what else I think that I think silence is underrated, especially on a podcast. Yeah. Well, yeah. Having a little bit of space, I think, between between words. Between words. I don't know how many more answers you need out of me before Ari thinks of something. Oh, I already know what's underrated.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Oh. Oh, damn. Well, please. Okay, go ahead. Oh, Jesus. I'm thinking, I'm thinking. Friendship is underrated. Friendship, guys. Friends friends what do i have what do i have without andy freedom what do i have without the ability to the ability to do whatever i want whenever i want whoa she's on someone off what what have i been doing to you emotionally everything oh well i guess i'm kidding
Starting point is 00:24:28 get the cheese off our chest in the in the break so cheesed i i yeah friendship i think i think people don't know how to be friends anymore these days i think it's true it's hard to make new ones after a certain age yeah it's true like i can't even ones after a certain age. Yeah, it's true. Like, I can't even get my, like, my wife when I've asked her. By the way, she's my fiance. I just don't, I hate the word fiance. So I just say wife. We're getting married in September.
Starting point is 00:24:53 There you go. Congrats. Thank you so much. I asked her, I feel like there's certain things that are just kind of a given. Like, when you're with somebody. And I think one of those things is is uh airport rides right am i right you should always be able to get right am i crazy yeah yeah i i was just roped into doing a pickup pickup drop off for uh my partner her majesty so yeah and sometimes when i ask her
Starting point is 00:25:19 sometimes like let me see if i can fit that in yeah yeah but i always i'm like fucking airport shuttle for you like i know but i have plans and i'm like fuck that is the most specific to la like it is the la love language the ride to the airport because the airport sucks to get to and get out of and then i have a car ride back it's just what do you do at that point and then she's then she's like what the hell are we doing at the airport yeah she is Polly I just park at the airport
Starting point is 00:25:53 Wow but it's not just so much money yeah I was gonna say it's like almost the flight you cost your flight well it's not just the significant other it's the family members it's the oh my mother's in town you got to go pick her up my you know it's yeah it's everybody everybody the significant other. It's the family members. It's the, oh, my mother's in town. You got to go pick her up. My, you know, it's everybody. Everybody that she knows you have to.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Because we have the most cursed airport in the country with like no options for people to leave except by car. And if, and God forbid you need a taxi or Uber, it's like, well, then you can walk a little bit to this other part that we've sort of hastily planned. Maybe trying to escape from there but they just like broke ground on like the connection from the metro to the airport in la so it looks like they're building the fucking city of the future in there man it's like it looks like the jetsons yeah well when i look at the incomplete like track from the metro to the airport all i think of is speed. Because you see these two concrete things I haven't met yet. And I'm like, oh, hell yeah, dude. Somebody jump that.
Starting point is 00:26:50 When are they planning on finishing that? I think it's like 2023 or 4 or something like that. Jeez Louise. That's never going to get here. Yeah, no kidding. Remember the anticipation for the purple line? And then, you know, you don't really hear much about that anymore. Well, dying off a little bit. Remember the anticipation for the purple line? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And then, you know, you don't really hear much about that anymore. Dying off a little bit. Completed in 2024. The purple line, the one that went to the Santa Monica Pier. Yeah, but it's only one line and it takes a long ass time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Anyway, more of this, please. LA Talk. Alright, we will be right please. L.A. Talk. All right. We will be right back after a brief message. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close
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Starting point is 00:31:23 if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And let's talk about the U.S. We love to spread information, share information with our our friends especially paramilitary tips and tricks with the saudis in particular yeah love it yeah well it turns out four of the people that were on the hashoggi hit squad uh received paramilitary training in the u.s yeah and not just that it was approved by the State Department. All right.
Starting point is 00:32:06 But, you know, this is, they say, this is from a New York Times article saying, quote, the training was provided by the Arkansas-based security company Tier 1 Group,
Starting point is 00:32:14 which is owned by Cerberus Capital Management. The company says the training, including safe marksmanship and countering an attack, was defensive in nature and devised to better
Starting point is 00:32:24 protect Saudi leaders. One person familiar with the training said it also included work in surveillance and close quarters battle CQB. But they say nothing. They didn't do anything that would have been like, this is how you take a dissident journalist and disappear them from an embassy. It was just this other stuff that we taught them, which I'm sure is fair. was just this other stuff that we taught them, which I'm sure is fair. But, you know, this is I think just goes to, you know, underline how sort of twisted and fucked up America's foreign policy is when it comes to relationships with these autocratic governments. And before you say, I can't believe Trump did this. Quick note, this began under Barack Obama in 2014 is when these guys first took their trip over here. So this is know this isn't anything new this is what we do over here but you need that you need that special ops u.s military training to uh
Starting point is 00:33:11 take on a middle-aged journalist when you're like nine armed military operatives just springing on him in a surprise attack so well you never know i mean like in under siege they didn't know that the chef had all this training right yeah you know it was so good with knives so you never just a chef just a chef which i'm sure he's probably sharing his tips with like in russia with the kgb or something right uh we saw what he's capable of. But I mean, yeah, this is again, this is a long pattern of informational exchanges that the U.S. does. I mean, just look at the School of the Americas
Starting point is 00:33:53 where, you know, we trained cadets from all kinds of governments in Latin America, like in things like counterinsurgency and torture, interrogation, assassination. And oh, wouldn't you know it, these people went on to fight the communist revolutionaries and in the civil wars that destroyed the countries that are now becoming the source countries for many migrants. I don't think there's a connection there at all. No, I don't. But just an unfortunate, unfortunate coincidence.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Right. Yeah. Capitalism's invisible army. The CIA. Yeah. But they've now, like, they've had to do a lot of, like, rebranding with it. Because I think it was in the, like, in 2001 where they finally changed the name. Because people, like, everyone was like, isn't this, like, the assassin school? Like, for foreign governments that they sent? But now it's the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Your new future starts today. Yeah. So what are you waiting for? Get off the couch. You're probably asking yourself, you have some communist revolutionaries in your country that are trying to get fair benefits and wages for the agriculture that's being exploited by a foreign government and getting people hopped up on this thing called equality?
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Starting point is 00:35:29 I like that Now Pauly is being played by Humphrey Bogart In this version of Rocky Yeah It's not good Yeah I think this just goes i think for people who are still maybe have blinders on not understand how the u.s government works with other
Starting point is 00:35:54 countries it's like yeah it's to always uphold these sort of systems of oppression that will always benefit u.s foreign policy or business interests that's kind of the whole thing here but yeah not good news for the owner of cerberus Capital Management, who I think wanted to get an appointment at the Pentagon. And then this came up and he's like, you know what? Never mind. We're going to go. You know what? I want to I want to add.
Starting point is 00:36:17 So I want to make an amendment to my underrated what I think is underrated. And that is having the blinders on. Right. Because what better way to preserve your own mental health than to not really kind of pay attention to the atrocities that are happening around you. Ignorance is bliss.
Starting point is 00:36:38 You know, truer words. But I think at the same time, you know, like I think it'll be harder to be surprised if you inform yourself. So it's a double edged sword. I have a quick I have a quick question. I'm just I'm just curious.
Starting point is 00:36:50 OK, so when you hear the term ignorance is bliss. And I think this might speak to our generation. What is the image that pops into your head? One at a time. You already know. I already know what you're asking. And it's Joe Pant, Joey Pants in the Matrix. It's fucking Cypher from The Matrix eating a steak.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Eating a steak. Yes, exactly. Yes. I already knew where you were going with this. And I'm eating it too. Just going, what ignorance. He takes that bite. And I remember, I think I was like 14, 15.
Starting point is 00:37:20 And puberty just makes you like an insatiable eater of food. You're like, dude dude I want that meat yeah, yeah because ignorance is bliss and then the harp yeah, exactly that's funny that's not what pops into my head at all, but I also don't have a real like
Starting point is 00:37:37 cinematic image I guess Forrest Gump maybe and I'm like about 5 years older than you guys, I think. So that might make sense, because I think that movie came out five years before The Matrix. Oh, but in your mind, you're like, that's the ignorance that was blissed, to be Forrest Gump. Yeah. Oh, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Even though he seemed like he was smart enough to realize that. No, no. We're talking about that one line in a movie where there's like all that martial arts and the guns and like, yeah, no, yours is much cooler. Mine. Mine.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Yours is, I have to go pee. Have you read, have you read the Forrest Gump book?
Starting point is 00:38:16 No, I've read about Forrest Gump book. Yeah. Dark. It is. Have you, have you read the sequel? The Forrest Gump sequel?
Starting point is 00:38:23 Yeah. That was in development until 9-11. The day after 9-11. They were like, hmm, maybe we shouldn't make a sequel to Forrest Gump where he's in the back of OJ's Bronco and just taking a tour of the 90s
Starting point is 00:38:38 and having hilarious mishaps with the mainstream news. Maybe that doesn't work so well in a post yeah forrest gump and the cia crack epidemic nice to meet you freeway ricky ross dude that would be that would be a great parody movie. Like a Forrest Gump type character who happens to be in the background of all these major... Dude, that's funny.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I like that a lot. That's hilarious. Just like, yeah, the most awful government-backed atrocity. He's on Earth. He's just there somehow all the time. Dude, that's hilarious. All right, let's talk about why these youngs don't own homes. So top five reasons.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Avocado toast. Spend too much on avocado toast to not eating enough canned tuna, as we'll get to. These are both Wall Street Journal articles. No. So I just want to say out front, people were complaining in the comments or at least one person. up front people were complaining in the comments or at least one person i think it's a valid criticism on some level that like they're like you complain about capitalism but then you cut to ads for products like what's what's going on and you can tell i think it's a valid criticism because i gave them that stupid voice uh when i was uh impersonating their comment but i also
Starting point is 00:40:00 want to say that like the i think assuming that the modern state of what is defined as capitalism is just the only possibility for capitalism is very, like, narrow minded and short sighted and is like the result of just a number of like historically terrible decisions over the past 40 years by the people in power in America. And so I want to talk about real estate in that context. So in this week's John Oliver segment about the Pace government loan program being kind of predatory on homeowners and just utterly mismanaged, they open the segment being like, oh, by the way the way if you're 35 you don't need to watch this because you don't own a home it's like you can go back to tiktok or whatever you guys do but you don't own a home and it's worth noting like why that is so over the past week there was a story about how black rock or a subsidiary of Blackstone just invested $6 billion in buying up single-family homes across America.
Starting point is 00:41:11 And then there was the backlash to that story that was like, guys, that's still a small portion of the home ownership. They're not the reason that home prices are rocketing up. So just work harder, basically. Stop buying avocado toast. But just broadly, it's pretty simple that there was, after the 2008 economic crisis, a decision to bail out financial institutions and the richest people on Wall Street. about financial institutions and like the richest people on Wall Street. And that left Wall Street financial institutions with the money to like buy up homes of single families
Starting point is 00:41:53 who were being forced out of their homes by the crisis that the Wall Street banks created in the first place. And like you can like the statistics are pretty clear cut on that. That's what happened. The 2008 financial crisis was a huge redistribution of wealth from private individuals to big financial institutions. And that's the reason that people don't own homes anymore. reason that people don't own homes anymore like that's corporate investors snapped up 15 of u.s homes for sale in the first quarter of this year like that's yeah well i mean it's it's how they that's how they are now like all this privatization of things like you know there used to be publicly publicly subsidized homes and things where the government directly did it, but that's getting more blended now. And you have a lot of banks now owning the resources to even rent homes.
Starting point is 00:42:51 And you even see them do deals with the government being like, well, I got this, I got these homes. I can put people in what you want to give me a little cut of a government grant money and I'll put people in these homes or just to make, you know, just to squeeze people as much as possible and keep them out of owning. So then they can just get into this loop of taking rents every month. Yeah. This Slade article about, you know, this whole storyline just makes the point that I'll just read from it. Rich people are doing so outstandingly well that they're running out of easy places to park their cash, which is why they're buying 2,000 square foot houses in the Phoenix suburbs via their ownership stakes in these funds. And then as inequality in the United States increases,
Starting point is 00:43:32 the financial elite invest less in the types of things that could create jobs like research and development or new factories and more into directly extracting wealth from the working class. Yeah. One way to do that, become their landlords. And I just think like this is a very clear cut story. It is like one of the main stories the last 20 years that like gets obfuscated and like gets hidden under layers of like stories, browbeating millennials for buying too much avocado toast and just bullshit like that. And then like backlash to stories that blame these massive financial institutions for like
Starting point is 00:44:11 changing the playing field so that it's harder to buy single family homes for single families. And yeah, it's this came as the result of policy from what was supposed to be a progressive, like the progressive hope and change president. And like he put this massive change into place. So it's like, I don't know where the the version of capitalism that people think of as American capitalism and is just like capitalism in general is not like it's a oligarchy and a kleptocracy and like we've lost the thread so badly that we don't realize like what what those things mean even more we have like multiple channels designed to like tracking the stock market and like paying attention to like what the like what these immensely wealthy people's like stock portfolios are doing and like nothing dedicated to like the actual financial realities of americans or like and the federal government's like job should be to protect the people but instead they just kind of got in on the whole financial institution logic
Starting point is 00:45:26 of like, well, we're going to treat it like an investment. And it's just like that. This is what you end up with. Well, back when everybody was actually able to afford a home generations before us, that's because there weren't
Starting point is 00:45:44 a million other things that you could spend your money on besides a home you know like now now there's just so many options that it's like you know i feel like our generation has made peace with the fact that like we're not we're either not going to be able to buy our own home. And even if we were like the there's, there's iPhones and stuff like, I want to spend my money on this other stuff and just rent, you know, because,
Starting point is 00:46:11 because you never really, I mean, I just feel like you never really own your own home anyway. I mean, you're just renting it from the bank anyway. I mean, yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:46:22 you're paying off the mortgage and eventually like it is it has been traditionally in american like in america the way that most people gain wealth and like the tax breaks and you know financial breaks that go to american homeowners and that were denied to black americans and americans of color for so long was like one of the primary like vaporized because of the fact that rate like wages don't go up uh the fact that people don't have any sort of social safety nets that you know like that were more robust in the past yeah it makes it infinitely harder and i think now that these banks and these like private equity groups have just turned that main mode of wealth accumulation to this like thing it's like well no, not really a lot of people are going to have access to this anymore.
Starting point is 00:47:28 So we'll now just turn this into a way to turn up our own wealth accumulation for the top X percent by saying, now we just make it passively through, you know, rents being paid to us. And who wants to take 30 years to build your wealth? Right. It takes so long. When you can buy a scratcher in five minutes at the liquor store. Right, exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:47:51 You can invest in Bitcoin and then you're rich immediately. I mean, and even then you're 70, 80 years old and then, you know, it gets tied up in probate court and you can't. It's like you never had it. You got Tom Selleck selling you a reverse mortgage and all that wealth is gone. Somebody's getting a little personal, I think. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm just, I've had a long 30 years.
Starting point is 00:48:14 I'll say this because this is a conversation I've had in private. I think, and I don't know about the rest of the country, but as far as like America is concerned, I feel like there's this movement towards acclimating people to a subscription based lifestyle. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:48:30 absolutely. Where everything that you have is, is, is all in payments or it's not, you're, you're never fully owned. Like I don't own any of the music I listen to anymore. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:48:42 There, there was a time where you actually owned a thing a cd right i mean granted yeah i mean there's a it's a lot more environmentally sound i would say to own something that's an mp3 rather than something that's you know a piece of plastic that's being made and eventually is going to get thrown away or if you if you hold on for whatever i mean people people are still holding on to you know vinyl that's like you know they're not making a bunch of it now, but the stuff that's out there that's been out there is worth more money than it was when you first bought it.
Starting point is 00:49:10 But the point I'm trying to make is that that's just something that... I don't know anybody who buys their cars anymore. I don't know anybody who even buys their phones anymore. I think at some point in time, we're going to... Even food now is kind of on a subscription base. Yeah, food subscription services. Yeah, so I just food now it's kind of on a subscription based subscription services yeah yeah so i i just think that it's it's slowly but surely kind of systematically training
Starting point is 00:49:31 you know young minds to not really wrap their head around the concept of owning anything it's just something that you have for a temporary amount of time and then you let go when you once you're like i don't want to pay for that anymore. Yeah. Even if you, and if you do, if you do go buy a car, when you sit down with the sales agent, he,
Starting point is 00:49:51 he, the first question he asks you is how much do you want to pay per month for this car? Right. Right. It doesn't matter how, what the total is. Oh,
Starting point is 00:50:01 go on like realtor.com. And there's the little slide thing that you use to, to show you what your monthly payments will be, regardless of what the total is. Oh, go on like realtor.com. And there's the little slide thing that you use to, to show you what your monthly payments will be, regardless of what the, uh, what the total price of the home is. Whenever you look at this though, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:14 it's, it's meant to make everything easier to say like, well, this could be too daunting, but I can afford 1299 a month or whatever a month to really, like you're saying Aristotle, like to dissolve this idea of ownership. Because if people still did have a very strong sense of how this all works or that homeownership is vital to your American wealth accumulation and things like that, people would be probably a lot more interested in how this all works but to your point i think when all of that becomes obscured and just being like well i get x credits per month that i then distribute for my life style
Starting point is 00:50:51 then i'm okay um that like way of living i think it's like very it will be very much black mirror ish in a few generations i'm sure where it's just about purely like oh how many credits is this good sir great here you go is this money anymore i don't know get on your bike and create some electricity okay bye and they talk about like people are worried about socialism like redistributing wealth but like think about what's gonna happen when you know the baby boomers who have like accumulated all all the wealth they're the only ones who like still believe in ownership so they own everything uh when they finally die off and all their wealth is just arbitrarily redistributed based on like you know their whims and like who you know their
Starting point is 00:51:38 their kids uh their conservative think tanks like that is that a more fair way to redistribute wealth than like whatever social programs we could put in place to like actually invest in like the communities? Well, I mean, I don't know. It's just it's just antithetical to somebody who's thinking purely in terms of like keeping your wealth and augmenting it as much as possible, because everything is built on a system of exploit exploiting people whether you're a landlord and you're exploiting the person who is looking for fucking shelter and like yeah this is what it's going to cost because i think other stuff in the neighborhoods this i don't know i'm not really sure what i'm adding to this equation but do that
Starting point is 00:52:18 yeah it it's there's no way i don't think that a person could then think well what's my role in like writing this ship at all i don't think that a person could then think, well, what's my role in like writing this ship at all? I don't think that's going to occur to someone. I mean, it'll be interesting to see what happens when you have like people who are very politically minded who begin inheriting these things because they don't they themselves don't have access to them. What if they will do something with like a vacation home that they inherited? like a vacation home that they inherited? Will they say, you know what, I can, I'll try and figure out a way to, you know, ethically like rent this or maybe eventually help somebody live here where I don't need to make money, but I can, someone can live there. I don't know. We'll see if there will be any radical thinking around that, but I can only imagine as inequality grows,
Starting point is 00:52:58 people will just be thinking more about how scarce things are and just operate out of a mentality of scarcity if you've ever known people like who inherited so much wealth that they never had to work a day in their life like they are absolutely ruined by that like just as oh yeah it is the it's it doesn't create the best that's from your perspective broke boy i'm about to fucking take a cool underwater scooter to a reef right you can drink beer down there no you invite me on your show and you then you insult me all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk subway tuna This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close
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Starting point is 00:57:43 And we're back. And, Miles, I wrote up this new york times story because i knew you didn't want to you didn't want to read this you didn't want to hear about this shit but a new york times reporter ordered 60 inches worth of tuna subs from los angeles from los angeles area subway so it can't be like oh this is just a regional problem. It is the subways that you have been frequenting. Is it my one on Moorpark? It was five different ones. I mean, a vast sampling.
Starting point is 00:58:16 It very well could have been. Frozen sent them to a lab that specializes in fish testing. The lab looks for DNA that can be identified as tuna and amplified and they were unable to find any not a single sample. What's the problem? So they don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:36 This story is kind of mayonnaise. Yeah. Right. So that's I think like they open it up to being that like at one point they're like it could just be that it's like so degraded from all of the processing that like it's no longer recognizable from a DNA perspective, which is like, yeah, well, then we don't have a problem here. But exactly. There is no just move along. Exactly. There is no just move along. This shit is so processed.
Starting point is 00:59:10 There's like in the look, a super producer, Anna Jose, sent the article out because she wanted to take a shot across my bow. Although at the same time, she came up with a brilliant defense for me that if anything, if I commit crimes or something, I'm going to use the subway tuna defense that that's what happened. She's like, just blame everything you do on eating subway tuna sandwiches for as long as you did. And someone may be sympathetic. Right, right. But yeah, like when one of the other like sort of experts that was talking about it just said, I mean, like when you boil this shit down and cook it down, it it like ceases to have any sort of organic. Like it'll be hard to find the DNA at that point because of all the processing. Do I think that it's just a bunch of shredded up haviana sandals and shit i don't know but if it is they did something great this
Starting point is 00:59:52 will probably end up just being like a big advertising hoax by subway and they're like yeah there's no traces of uh of tuna it's all caviar subway right welcome yeah but then they find out that one of the same like one of the ingredients in their bread was the same thing that they used to make yoga mats yoga mats yeah yeah right right yeah everything at like a certain like you can break everything down far enough into a chemical compound that it's like yeah i mean like we all contain carbon and i bet there's some carbon in there so you could be like subways like eating people it's i don't know i think these articles also this article just from its methodology perspective he bought five subway subs in los angeles froze them
Starting point is 01:00:39 and sent them to a lab which the testing you later find out is affected by like how much it's been frozen and like broken down and all these different things. So like, why were there no subways near the lab? Like, what was the New York Times budget that they were like, sorry, bro, you got to just like hack this investigation together using whatever subway you can walk to. Yeah. This smacks of something that was all orchestrated by Jimmy Johns or something.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Right. Yeah. Yeah. Where they're like, look at us. Like it's like, you can watch a video of the tuna being processed from the sea all the way to your mouth.
Starting point is 01:01:21 So, you know, you can trust our tuna, but I think it would be interesting if you just did this across all american food like just really to help people understand how fucking processed the food is that you eat like there's a version of getting a canned tuna from your store and then making your own like tuna salad or whatever and whatever it takes for these companies again because it's all about creating the widest margins for their profits as possible that it's you process this shit and do it cheap and things like that yeah that's how it ends up being a fucking five dollar foot long
Starting point is 01:01:55 yeah all that to say is i feel great my magnetism has died down ever since i started eating subway tuna sandwiches to offset the magnetism from the vaccines. Occasionally, like, I mean, my toenails grow at a, such a rate that I find it to be very impressive. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Yeah. You can actually see it visibly from space, like happening in front of you. But yeah, there's this quote that says, because if we all want everything at rock bottom prices, that means something somewhere is going to be exploited, whether that's people or the ocean, probably both in the case of tuna they also say like they have
Starting point is 01:02:30 behind the scenes testimony from sandwich artists who who work at subway who say who say that this the tuna comes as two separate ingredients mayonnaise and a flaky, like brined fish looking substance that they then mix together with their hands and gloves. But it that that was the best I've ever felt about Subway Tuna was like reading that. Yeah. Spoke. Yeah. Spoke under under the condition of anonymity. Yes, it is made out of them.
Starting point is 01:03:06 They both did, actually, for fear of reprisal from Subway. Both sandwich artists that they had on. At the beginning of the pandemic lockdown, I remember when so many restaurants and things sort of pivoted to being like, hey, you can just buy shit. You need an egg or some lettuce or whatever. Come and you could buy you could buy the tuna at subway they were selling five pound bags of this shit that was pre-mayonnaise and it was just pretty much labeled i mean i maybe bought it and was yeah so that was the that was the good part of like what i learned
Starting point is 01:03:42 the the bad part is that they will leave it out on the counter for 72 hours they they consider the like post mayonnaise tuna to be among their most like shelf or uh sandwich bar stable ingredients the way they describe it is like the fish is like caught with a net that is like i don't know it's just it's exactly the thing that happens at the end of uh finding nemo i think where like all the fish in like the dirty part of the ocean get like trapped in this net and then like they just freeze them immediately once they get them on the boat and then like bake them with all their organs and shit in them and then like at that point remove the bones like it's some factory.
Starting point is 01:04:28 So that's like kind of gross. And it's also only the worst quality tuna. Like there's the they're like the pink tuna. We send to sushi bars. The like pinkish that has like some fucked up stuff on it. We sear the outside of that, leave the inside pink and like send that off to restaurants. And then there's the stuff that's just all, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:49 cat food has a whole, yeah. Cat food. Exactly. And that, that we send to the, uh, canneries,
Starting point is 01:04:56 which is where your canned tuna comes from. The tuna that doesn't know how to swim. Right. Exactly. Yeah. I shout out to all the listeners who incessantly tagged me in every single version that had a link and I could be added in
Starting point is 01:05:12 for bringing this to my attention. Again, I wouldn't be who I am without this mystery fish. Yeah. So in that way, thank you. But I'm still unwavering in my support of Subway, whatever this sandwich is and so as a follow up to this New York Times article the New York Times is going to
Starting point is 01:05:31 DNA test miles to see if they can detect any subway tuna in miles' DNA not human there's too much mayonnaise in miles almost all mayonnaise his blood type is Hellman's that's funny too much mayonnaise in my room. Almost all mayonnaise. His blood type is Hellman's.
Starting point is 01:05:49 That's funny. Well, Andy, Aristotle, it's been such a pleasure having you guys on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you and follow you and hear you and all that good stuff? I mean, on Instagram at ThisIsAmericansLive. And everywhere else,
Starting point is 01:06:06 me, at theandiharris. Mine is air, A-I-R, like Air Jordans, but air underscore Stottle, S-T-O-T-L-E, if you want to find me there. And that's the same for all the social stuff. But that's mostly just like
Starting point is 01:06:21 highlights from your NBA career, right? Mm-hmm. No, just highlights of my sneaker collection, really. Oh, is that? Nice. By the way, it's very important if you're looking for me to do the Andy Harris because there is another Andy Harris who's a
Starting point is 01:06:37 GOP congressman from Maryland who... That's not you. They look exactly the same. We do. We get mistaken for each other quite Right. That's not you. And they look exactly the same. We do. We do. We get mistaken for each other quite often. That's fucked up, man.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Some people think it was me that tried to bring a gun into the Congress floor six months ago. But no, it wasn't. I really wish, I hope next time you guys, if you guys decide to talk about uaps or ufos i would love to be a part of that that's something i've been doing a lot of research and reading on i don't know if you guys are into that stuff recently oh we're huge into it yeah we we just talk about it like you know whenever there's a new development but i'd love to let's get a your two minute take two minutes i give it to you in 10 seconds. There's aliens out there, guys. Wow. There it is.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Love it. Case closed. I don't know. I mean, I mean, I do feel like the evidence is so compelling. It's like, how could you how could you honestly I don't know. How can you explain that away? I just heard the I just heard the most the first kind of good skeptical take on all the tic-tac videos that was like broke it down in a way that i could understand i still don't have a good explanation for the air force
Starting point is 01:07:54 pilots who were like yeah we were like eye to eye with this tic-tac that was like circling us uh after like hovering over that's the one that i still like unless you're like these air force pilots both of them decided to come up with this story and like jeopardize their career to uh do this to like tell this jeopardize their career as ufo influencers on the internet right now but like the the so like yeah there's the one guy who's been telling this story but then he got like his co-pilot to come out, and she just looks like a high school principal. She's just like, yeah, okay, I guess I'll do it.
Starting point is 01:08:33 I have nothing to... She's just like... It's kind of weird, but yeah, I saw a UFO. It was just very much... She did not seem like the person who's trying to cash in on this in any way whatsoever. Yeah. But but took her a while too to come out yeah yeah because she was kind of under the radar but there was there's some
Starting point is 01:08:50 other pilots too that kind of uh i think his name is fravor right as the pilot you're what you're talking about yeah yeah he uh you know i mean even he didn't really want to be involved in that whole community he was just being very honest about what he saw. Yeah. You know, we actually, we actually have audio from that, uh,
Starting point is 01:09:10 from that UFO. Uh, hold on. Yeah. What are we doing on earth? Rock? What are we doing in LA? Yeah. Okay. This is Americans live, everybody. in LA. Anyhow.
Starting point is 01:09:27 This is Americans Live, everybody. Check it out. It's on your rented iPhones. There you go. Oh, and is there a tweet or some other work of social media you guys have been enjoying? I have an aunt in Iran
Starting point is 01:09:42 and she posts funny stuff. I don't think she knows what she's posting but I love it sometimes she'll send me text messages you know like through Instagram and I know what she wants she's trying to be like an aunt and cute and send me kissy photos
Starting point is 01:10:00 or like the little emoji but she always sends me the sensual lips that are like like that i don't think she knows what she's sending me and it just straight up looks like i'm sexting with my with my hand which i'm 100 not anyways good i know i saw an onion article it said uh de blasio says uh it's not so easy to find a mayor that doesn't suck shit isn't it it's so wild that the new york mayor's uh race is we which we haven't talked about for some reason we were too busy talking about uh tuna sandwiches from subway but yeah just what a what a wild collection of uh weirdos miles what's a tweet you've been enjoying uh man well first you can find me on twitter and instagram at miles
Starting point is 01:10:54 of gray and also the other show 420 day fiance yeah i didn't know that shit man come on yeah well you know i get it and some tweets that i like. First one, Jessica Roy at Jessica underscore Roy. A bunch of people who said they, quote, don't want to be the test subject for an experimental vaccine. Seem remarkably chill about being a potential test subject for the COVID Delta variant. The next one is from at official bro. Haas B.R.O. H.O.S.S. Thank L.A.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Girls Skateboard and Green smoothie. NYC girls. Roller skate and rap. Chicago girls. 70 pound steel frame swim bike from 1974. Let me get one beef dip and can I get hot peppers on that too? Oh, I love that shit.
Starting point is 01:11:40 I'm feeling that. Love a beef dip. That was going to be mine, but I didn't know how to pronounce Pret-a-Manger, so I didn't read it. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A couple tweets I've been enjoying, full of words I can't pronounce. Melside Ponytail tweeted, you should be able to get on your roommate's insurance which I agree with and then Adam at Burger Crang tweeted starting a new bit where I say roll tide every time someone
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Starting point is 01:12:28 episode, as well as a song we think you might enjoy. Miles, what's a song we think people might enjoy? From another one from Dirty Art Club, fan of the show and we're fans of their work. This one's called Rerun and this track is great.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Every time I want to give a description this one feels like if you did mushrooms and you were at a parent's house and you found an old yearbook from your junior high and you were looking through it this is the music that would be playing in your head as you looked at it so this is rerun by dirty art club is it just a single icy piano key over and over? Because that's what that experience would feel like to me. All right. Well, go check that out. The Daily
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