The Daily Zeitgeist - American Meat Culture, Occupation NOT A Good Strategy? 8.17.21

Episode Date: August 17, 2021

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and her writing has appeared in little places like the A.V. Club, The Guardian, Elle, Variety, Vice, Jezebel, Vulture, to name a few. Please welcome the brilliant, the hilarious, the talented Ashley Ray! Oh my god, hello! I'm so glad to be here. Wow. So glad to have you. I'm like, man, we gotta have Ashley on. Also, we gotta talk 90 Day at some point too, because that's one of our great overlapping interests. On top of Weed also.

Yeah, Weed, 90 Day. And I mean that tell-all last night, or on Sunday. Oh, yeah. I only caught the beginning parts. I got to watch the rest after, but I'm, oh, boy. Go, boy. Where are we in the world of, first of all, how many seasons in? Oh, I mean, of which spinoff?

I mean, currently we're finishing 90 Day Fiancé Happily Ever After season six and then 90 Day Fiancé The Other Way season three comes back next week. Yeah. And that's when Americans go abroad and- Yeah, and fall in love with people in other countries. And then there's what, Love in Paradise? I'm about to start watching that one which everyone just says sex

tourism so okay so 90 day love in paradise you know every season they have the clear like sex tourism couple like the old lady who's just going down to clearly get dick and i am impressed because love in the caribbean is not like that like it's legitimately people who are like i was in jamaica for two weeks and it was the most beautiful time of my life and so i was just having all the raw sex in the world and i got pregnant and now i'm trying to convince this man to move to america because i'm having a baby there you go oh i'm ready okay i actually think it's incredible and it reminds me of the early days of 90 day fiance. Like people who you wish they could get it together, but they can't get out of their own way.

Right. Versus now we just have like demented abusers and things like that. And you're just like, yeah, people who clearly hate each other. And you're just like, please stop like encouraging Angela to do this to this man. Yeah.

Or herself. Sorry. Are they, they're not bringing the couples together. to do this to this man. Yeah, or herself. Dr. O-Bang, sorry. They're not bringing the couples together. The couples are together in the first place. Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay, got it. These are people who'd be making these mistakes without a camera.

Right, right, right, exactly. It's the added benefit of it all being documented. Exactly. And we can feel better by comparison about our terrible life decisions. That's the whole point of this show. All right, Ashley, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we are going to tell the listeners just a few of the things we're talking about. The Texas Supreme Court has sided with Governor Abbott about whether or not you can mandate masks. I'll give you one guess as to which side they're on. Which way did the all GOP state Supreme Court go? I wonder. Yeah. But fortunately, some of the county officials are just ignoring the shit out of them. But we'll talk about that. We'll talk about how to embrace fake meat. We will talk about the new grift, which is musicals. James O'Keefe starring in a musical,

which we've all been waiting for his musical theater debut after the prince uh lip-syncing video we'll talk about just the horrifying scenes coming out of afghanistan and then we'll talk about taco bell if we have a little a little we're gonna have time we'll have time to talk we gotta get to taco bell because they're introducing like futuristic drive-thrus that look like Daft Punk designed a car wash. It's like four-lane drive-thrus that are all angular. They're fishing, bro. They're fishing.

You know what I mean? We're going vertical. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Ashley, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Oh, something from my search history. I was looking and literally my search history for the past three days is all just the names of bars from Bar Rescue. Because I've been obsessed with this Bar Rescue marathon.

And then I just spend the entire day just going, I wonder if that one still exists. And then I'm just googling like fifth and vine the roost like all these ridiculous names he comes up with for these like companies one was like the copper rocket he changed like a thriving bar into the copper rocket it didn't survive wow yeah what the i mean did you so i'm guessing you also are you watch Bar Rescue, too? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm myself. I mentioned this because did you see that clip of him on Laura Ingraham? I did where he's like workers are like dogs and you need to starve them. Hungry dogs obedient. Yeah. And it's like, oh, no. But I like if you watch Bar Rescue, it's like you could have said worse. Like if you watch

Bar Rescue, he will be like, say you're a dumb idiot sandwich in front of your grandmother. Like, tell your father you're a failure. Tell him now! So, like, honestly, for Jon Taffer, that was him trying to probably

make a compliment, like, for his tale of, like, what is okay to say. Have you seen any bars that you know on bar rescue because there's one in the valley that i grew up like never going to because it was like the old washed like elderly bar that we're just like we're not going in there that it was like then it was on and i was like that's what it looks like inside but it's always a startling thing when you see a local bar in there. Yeah, they did one in Chicago.

I mean, River North, which is literally just where tourists hang out. And they were like, we're going to turn this into the local and make it like a bar where local Chicago people want to go. And I lived in Chicago for seven years. No one goes to that place. It is just full of tourists who are like, oh my God, I want to go to the bar from the bar rescue episode right right yeah wait which one was it before it became the local what was the vibe in that place was it the one where they had all the like art the musicians and shit in there yeah like it was something like beats and notes or something like that like some

jazzy name and they had musicians and he was just like this is disgusting music doesn't make money like that like the owners were like had like this like artistic disposition like we wanted a place where people could do art they're like but you're broke yeah and he's like what's what's more important sending your daughter to college or putting art on your walls and it's like that's that's how john taver sees the world it's that's amazing yeah it's like that quincy jones quote that god leaves the room when like the question of commercialism enters the conversation it's like he is the opposite so just god leaves the room every time he walks into a room never known god it's amazing the things he'll do to just be like i don't give a shit about the culture of this bar what you want there was one it's like a pipe like he came into a pirate bar that was run

by literal like pirate hippies who were like we love dressing up as pirates in our free time like this was clearly their passion project and he came in and renamed the bar the corporate like just shitting in the faces just named it the corporate made a giant logo of a man in a suit and was like we want business people to know this place is about the business right like the pirate waiters just like couldn't get it together they're just like milady what would you like for dinner and he's just like you need to be normal and then they all like stormed out she closed it down three three days later. Wow. Yeah. That was in, uh, yeah. In Maryland, I believe. I remember that very vividly. Cause I knew people from silver spring and I'm like, I'll be like, yo, do you know this bar? Do you

know this bar? You heard of it? See like that episode came out nine years ago. I'm like, right, right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's like, like I said, I Google every bar and there's like dedicated websites to like bar rescue updates where they tell you everything that happens the corporate and copper rocket i think i feel like i i don't watch the show but it sounds like he's over two and it sounds like he also prides himself on like being sweet at naming oh yeah he's like I know exactly what this market needs. The Copper Rocket sounds like a steampunk sex toy. Yeah, I thought of something like a mechanical dog penis. Right, right.

Bring out the Copper Rocket! And then sometimes he'll change the name of the bar, but he won't get them a new liquor license or the new name. And then they have to close down and they get screwed over like three of the bars they were like yeah he just like changed our name and got us a new sign and all of it was illegal right because we can't do business as this thing because you don't have a license for it wow okay so yeah little like oprah kind of thing where people got the car and then they didn't realize they had to pay the tax yeah they had to pay the taxes it's yeah so there was just a i wonder if he was on laura ingram to like raise awareness of the bar rescue marathon like if that's why he was there

honestly probably because that is all they show on paramount like right now like there's a whole tv channel that just plays bar rescue all day there you go yeah he went on laurie the ingram angle to drag wage workers and then also and also just give some press little bump to his tv yeah to just john taver's most embarrassing manager moments what is something you think is overrated actually overrated you know i i'm gonna have to go right now everybody's talking about it i'm gonna have to go with the white lotus wow i'm not gonna spoil anything but i just feel like three episodes in i'm gonna keep watching but yeah and here's the thing i think the tone of the internet seemed to be like that.

I think it's an incredible show, and it's a good show, but apparently people were watching this thing thinking it was going to give us the key to saving native lands in Hawaii and teach us how to end racism. Oh, no. That was apparently what people thought this show was going to... They had high expectations,

and in that regard, I think maybe it was a bit overrated. I watched it. I'm watching these first episodes. You're like, look at these fucked up people. Right. It's just supposed to be like, let's enjoy the pathology of these like crazy white people.

And like, just the crazy things that rich white people do. And instead people are like, wait a second. I thought Mike White, like save us. Like, what is this message okay yeah no it's it's crazy white people right give yourself yeah the right reasons to watch it um i think we will be recommending that for our streaming corner this week because yeah we've all been watching it and being like this shit is more than anything like this outside the show, I'm just

so... I love Jennifer Coolidge. I've loved her since Best in Show. That was one of the first things I was like, I'm Coolidge gang from Best in Show onward. And watching her in this, I'm mostly coming for the Jennifer Coolidge, if I'm going to be real. But I stay for the rest of the

mess. But she's been fucking unbelievably good. She's such a great performer. She's so good at it. Yeah. People always think she's like that, too. Yeah. When you're like, no, Jennifer Coolidge is a fucking artist, man. She's one of the best actresses.

She gets into these characters. People are like, no, she just kind of seems like a bimbo. And it's like, no. Watch an interview. Watch an interview really quick. Come on. And it's like, no, that's an interview. Watch an interview really quick. Come on. I feel like as somebody who curates opinions of TV shows that I haven't watched, it feels like the White Lotus has followed the same path as the undoing that Nicole Kidman, Hugh Grant thing where it was like everybody was really into it and talking about it. then everyone was disappointed by the last episode yeah it's it's kind of that thing where people are like oh my god is this some larger message about the privileges of like white men and blah blah blah and then it's like no it's just

like a really kind of basic story like right yeah just you know and it's entertaining and enjoyable but i think you just have to like lower your expectations and the thing with white lotus was that so many people were like i relate to these characters like how can they just like be bad people and i that's where it's like oh no maybe you should reflect on that yeah just telling on themselves that wasn't a joke okay sarcastic when you said it's like the whiny girl who hates her whole life just because her husband's rich like oh okay i've all been there you know yeah anyway i gotta make an open mic what uh what's something you think is underrated i like hate to go all tv but i mean that's that's what i do i just only know tv and I have to go underrated. There's this show on TLC called You, Me, and My Ex.

And it's crazy. And everyone has been like, this is bad. This is horrible TV. And I'm obsessed with it. It's actually the finale that I am looking forward to more than the white lotus i i am just so into this show that is just like people who are in relationships but have very unhealthy connections with their exes like their ex will come and like live with them or like they facetime with their ex-boyfriend every day even though they're now like engaged to a woman and i i feel like people need to give it more credit because it is probably the most interesting human study of the last like 10 years.

Whenever I see promos for it, it felt like it was so aggressively produced because I'm like, how the fuck could you find someone who is like, I'm in a relationship with this guy and we live with his ex. Yeah. And you're watching like just how toxic and unhealthy and unsustainable it is. And you're like, these people can't be fucking real. But you're saying you watch it and you're like, oh my God, they really are this fucking clueless about it. They do a good job of like finding couples where it's like they have a reason to still be in each other's lives.

Like they have kids or something. So it's a little's a little like oh okay like this isn't too forced like one guy is like oh i'm gonna be the sperm donor for my ex-wife who's now a lesbian and it's like okay they have like pretty good reasoning for why they want him to be the sperm donor and they're still like kind of involved and it's like mostly people who have healthy boundaries and then there are kind of the couples where it's like they like like two of the couples go on an rv trip together and there's no reason for them to like share an rv like it's just like you can tell a producer was like it would be a good idea if you all were just like in the together so we could shoot it and that's when it's a little like okay this is like overproduced drama like what that that part okay right yeah but like there's good stuff there's like also the part where there's this guy

who like he met this woman and they went on like two dates and then he got sick with covid and was in the hospital for like nine months oh my ex-wife like moved back in with him to take care of their like five kids he gets out of the hospital moves back home and the first thing he does he's like that girl i went on two dates with i want to move her into the house because i think i'm in love with her oh whoa and he's like he like he's like oh my daughter shares my bed sometimes so you can't sleep with me and he like puts an air mattress in a closet for her and that and he like he's legitimately like no this is like a good idea like why wouldn't you want to sleep in my closet like this is great and that's like oh this is excellent television yeah

okay i'm in now i'm in i mean the close i feel like i don't know in our dating lives like i've definitely gone out and then someone's like oh yeah, yeah, I still live with my ex, but it's all good. We're in the process. They're about to move out or whatever. And I'm like, okay, I can vibe with that. One time I had a friend who straight up went home with somebody on a date. And they're like, okay, when you go in, just be quiet because my ex is asleep in the other room. And he's like, wait, what?

And then found out at the threshold what the situation is it's like he's fine we've been broken up for like a couple months now but just he gets really cranky so like let's just be really quiet when we walk through this he's just got a real temper so be quiet really angry guy you know yeah don't worry he's like five two though he's harmless yeah i feel like i hear about this more than I would expect. We just ambiently heard about it through Wayne Brady, the fact that

he lives with his wife and her new husband. And they had that whole TikTok dance to explain it to us, too. Yeah, I just hear about it all the time in people's daily lives. I think rent is hard. Finding a place is hard so like there's definitely a lot of overlap there yeah i get the survival based ones but like the

ones where it's someone who's just like i just can't quit you made a life decision and there's yeah there's like one couple where the ex-wives became like best friends and they're doing like nude photo shoots together and the guy is like why is my new wife like doing a nude bathroom photo shoot with my ex-wife like right you know but that that's how some people heal that's yeah right we all have our own ways of moving on well that sounds incredible so go check out you me and my ex y'all um let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life.

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haven't yeah are all republicans and despite what like present tense science is showing us they're just like nah i can't can't can't tell us what to do yeah the name of personal freedom and you know we talked about how there have been small little acts of rebellion in florida and texas where people are like i don't give a fuck what the governor is saying like this sounds like absolutely asinine and dangerous to be like dude you're not gonna can't can't force people to do what's safe for everyone that's absurd and now we're seeing a little bit of pushback so we talked about how two counties basically said we don't give a fuck we're gonna mandate masks in schools fucking come come see me then and apparently the supreme court did governor abbott was like hey supreme court they're trying to flaunt my like my anti-mandate mandate and they

essentially blocked the this initial mandate from bexar and dallas counties and like these are some of the biggest school districts in the state that they represent so you know it makes sense why they'd want to keep it safe so some commentary commentary from officials there, the city attorney in Bexar County, Andy Segovia, said that, quote, he said, first of all, the mandate remains in effect. And quote, the city of San Antonio and Bexar County's response to the Texas Supreme Court continues to emphasize that the governor cannot use his emergency powers to suspend laws that provide local entities the needed flexibility to act in an emergency okay i don't think that makes sense and then in dallas the superintendent of the independent dallas independent school district

said you know fuck it we're not we don't give a fuck what the court said like it's there's how can you say we're we can't do this this sense. Quote, we're going to have the mask mandate tomorrow. We're going to be benevolent. We're going to be nice, but we're going to be firm and we're going to enforce it. So, yeah. I mean, at a certain point, can they just be like, we're going to do it from home then? Like if you insist on not letting people wear masks while we're in, like, we'll go back to shitty. I feel like that's worse than the mask mandate.

Right. For those people. Because, because Texas is so like, we refuse to believe this. A lot of school districts aren't even offering at home options. Like you have to be in school. Right.

Cause it's all, you know, like if you think about all the dynamics, right. It's like they, they want the kids back in school to alleviate the pressure on the adults that are workers. So if they don't have to be at home with their kids, there's less of a crunch for the childcare because they're at school again. But then on top of that, if you do the mask, then you're reminding people that the COVID rates are going out of control,

which could create another lockdown, which obviously entities like the Chamber of Commerce absolutely hate because they've been like, do we have to keep the revenue flowing? So no matter what, everything's just sort of linked to this idea of like never wanting to acknowledge that it's bad enough, that something has to be done for the sake of just letting business rip or business as usual. I mean, I get why it's better for the anti-vaxxer parents to have their kids at school. I'm just wondering, if it's not a mandate, can they just be like, well, you're not allowed in our school? Just go from home then. The governor, along with all these other rules,

also put in place rules where the school districts can't tell parents if kids test positive for COVID. They can't share the number of students who have tested positive for COVID. So it's like you as a parent, even if you don't want to send your kid in, you don't really have the information needed to be like, oh, I keep my kid at home or like, oh, the numbers are going off the chart because they're just like, nope. Yeah. How'd you get those numbers yeah like the governor says it's a secret like we're not allowed to say and yeah he's got a cool demeanor though despite the numbers going up and also finding out that he's been asking for assistance from outside the state because the situation just becomes increasingly dire it's like so much

you know so much double double speak and just lack of acknowledgement happening that yeah, it's just, yeah, chaos still continue. Yeah, I'm a fifth generation Texan. Like my whole family is in Dallas. And I feel like I don't know, it's like the perfect example of just everything Texas is like on the one side, you have these people who are like, we're never gonna wear our masks. And then the other side, you have these people who are like, we will do whatever we have to do to wear these masks. Like, we don't care. We have to go to the Supreme Court and fight you. We don't, I know in Houston, they like,

some people, they did a restraining order against the governor. Yeah. So that they prevent him from like being able to like, you know, do anything about people wearing masks so i just feel like it's just like the two like staunchest like just the most stubborn sides like fighting against each other right in the stubbornest state in the most yeah the most stubborn state and everybody's just kind of like i don't know what to do right right all right let's talk. Let's talk some fake meat. We know that the copper rocket, the copper rocket, the copper rocket. That's right. We know that, you know, the factory farming in the meat sector is a huge contributor to climate change and that changing our diets can help slow down the rise of temperatures and just generally, I mean, it's mainly the oil companies that can slow it down and, you know, massively powerful corporations and governments that can slow it down. But definitely changes to our diets can help our step in the right direction. And yeah, so people are doing a study about just like what happens

when you offer you know the better fake meat impossible and beyond in a market because there's a lot of talk about saying like well when the fake meat reaches the same price as regular meat because right now like you know or impossible just like kind of reduced their prices to sort of encourage more consumption of Impossible meat. But a lot of people like, you know, speculating around like when is there going to be a tipping point where these like these alternative meats become, you know, more highly adopted. And again, it's always been about price. They said if it becomes just as cheap as beef, then we'll probably begin to see an uptake in it. And like right now, a lot of people project that alternative meats could be around up to between 11 and 22% of global meat eating right now. It's like not even, it's like not even a fraction of a percent. So, you

know, what is it going to be a flip of a light switch type change? Well, it's, you know, it's not so easy. So this student who was working on their PhD project at UCLA sort of used the dining hall at UCLA as her experimental lab because at the UCLA dining hall, impossible meat and like regular beef, those items are offered at the exact same price. So there's nothing more expensive to go for the like meat alternative. And so what she saw was when they sort of unrolled or began to premiere these impossible meat tacos and burritos and salads and things like that, students bought 9% fewer animal-based entrees. But on the other side of it was sales of vegetarian meals declined by 4%. And so this is something a lot of experts have feared was that essentially

that it's sort of reinforcing this idea that we have a meat centered diet, no matter what we're like, well, if it's not real meat, then needs to be fake meat, because you got to have meat in your diet at not not really people saying, Oh, we don't we can also embrace like staple vegetables as well. And there was like this, again, a food eating trend being seen from 1961 to 2013 they looked at when chicken and seafood became more available than other meats american didn't americans didn't eat less beef or pork per capita they just ate more meat overall and that's what's happening around the world we're like exporting this thing so it's it's tricky. Yeah, I feel like I fall in line with that where I get Impossible Burgers

when I want an Impossible Burger. Like I will just crave that. It's not that I'm like, oh, this is me making a more healthy choice. It's just like, sometimes I'm like, no, I want an Impossible Burger. So I'll do that. And I'm not helping the world.

Right, yeah. I'm the same way. I love Impossible. That's my favorite of the meat alternatives. But the way we all work as people and just how things are marketed to us, it's clear, especially for Americans, the idea of meat being a thing you eat

to have your complete diet has just been rammed into our skulls from birth. And a lot of the experts are like, it's not just so much as being able to offer cheap alternatives to beef it's like we have to de-emphasize it too like culturally in saying like cultural shift yeah like when you do you know your fake food pyramid for kids like not having to sort of reinforce ideas like you got to be eating that beef though you know what i mean if you want to grow kids because it's not exactly getting the same outcomes and also like we have a lot of subsidies the government there's a lot of government subsidies that sort of keep this industry operating in the same suboptimal way that it is so more than that

it's like we gotta kind of legislate this stuff to make it work properly. But yeah, you know, I mean, the food pyramid that we grew up on include two to three daily servings of meat. Yeah, probably. I'm pretty sure.

I feel like, I mean, yeah, it's like, you should have me at the bottom is just all bread stuff. It's like, like, it was like 12 servings of bread.

And then it like makes space at the top for and some sweets you know yeah you can have a little candy which i don't think is like a necessary part of any diet right you can't apparently yeah candy i mean yeah i mean it's part of like for like more of like a happiness diet you know give yourself a little candy but i mean who knows the way that how these sort sort of FDA charts are like created. I'm surprised it wasn't like, and you got to have three Hershey bars every week too to keep your bones strong.

But as a kid, that is how I saw it. I'd be like, mom, look at the top of the pyramid. It has like a piece of candy. You got to have dessert. That is like a mandatory. It's an impossible amount of food. Speaking of impossible, it's like impossible amount of food speaking of impossible it's like all right six to eleven servings of bread cereal rice and pasta that's so many

eleven servings i would be like i wouldn't be able to move if i ate 11 servings of and like the secret here the reason they're able to get away with this is because like a serving is actually really small. But that's right. But you won't know that. Yeah. You won't know. OK. A slice of bread is one serving.

So let me eat this half a loaf. Eat five pineapples, three heads of cabbage, fucking big turkey legs, a cheese wheel and a little drizzle of maple syrup on it. Yeah, that's your sweetness right there. It's like this idea that you can eat your way to healthiness by getting all these different things in. And it's just like, actually, the thing that needs to be emphasized is eating a little bit less. How we consume.

But yeah, that's the thing. It's all a great funnel to just get people like consume consume consume consume all right well we're big fans of uh live musical theater here at daily zeitgeist and we got a new one on it that just uh popped up on our radar it's a performance of oklahoma and it stars james o Yeah. One of, Miles, you were saying one of your favorite musical theater actors. One of my favorite conservative grifters, James O'Keefe. I mean, if you remember around the early part of my political career, we hit the scene at the same time around 2009 because he got famous for smearing that group Acorn.

I mean, basically killing it. Yeah. famous for smearing that group acorn i mean with like these really doctored killing it yeah yeah you know i mean he essentially got them to pull like their federal funding and collapsed it until afterwards people in investigation like this guy edited the fuck out of these videos and completely misrepresented what happened but he was still like got him yes that's what you get for helping obama was essentially the thrust of his motivation then if if you remember, then he went on to bigger things as project Veritas, which is like that same stupid investigative organization, quote unquote, just group of assholes with some fucking Sackler money or whatever,

whoever the fuck they're getting their money. One of the, one of the best like names of an evil org, like project Veritas. That's great. Yeah. You got to love it and then the one of the last ones was when roy moore was running for senator in alabama and everyone's

like this guy is a fucking sex criminal and yet the gop was like yep no no no he's our best shot though so don't worry just ignore all the other allegations about let's just go straight ahead o'keefe tried to set sting the washington post with a fake accuser to get them to run a story but because they're journalists like they just very quickly determined that this person was fake and then counter stung him and got him on video being like you tried it and you didn't do it so fuck off and he's also banned from twitter anyway all that to say is this is his one them a pulitzer by the way for that he like just made made a bunch of people's career by being like so bad at this thing yeah and so then he got banned from twitter because he's just a big misinformation spreader

and he he had this track come out i don't know if we covered it to the tune of Prince's Controversy, but it was oligarchy. And I just want to refresh everyone's memory just briefly because I want to remind people he is not talented and he shouldn't be doing anything. Oh, here we go. That are promoting misinformation. The Times reported that the footage of Project Veritas was part of the... According to Stanford Research, it was coordinated disinformation. So this video is him, James O'Keefe, like wearing the lamest outfit. Like he's got like black jeans, black belt, black t-shirt on. And there's a lot of choreo. Yeah, it looks, it's very.

Like everyone else is just in t-shirts and then he's like danny yeah it's sandra d and in the final part of greece when she comes back edgy yeah but if that was being performed by history's worst dancing with the stars contestant like 100 he looks so uncomfortable and is just like you can see that he's consciously placing his hand with every movement. As somebody who's very self-conscious about my hands, I see a fellow person who doesn't know what to do with their hands.

It's important to note he has a boombox on his shoulder. That's how you know this is something musical. And then there's like some, I just want to play a little bit of his dancing really quick. Oh. Oh. Okay okay it's not good it's great bad wait so are they saying because they are a organization that is funded by billionaires like what does he think an oligarchy is hey come on whoa whoa jack come on now i didn't come what am i young you or something no i'm just so confused what what does he think the oligarchy is

he's you know how it's always and with conservatives it's selective right so you only acknowledge the oligarchy that is diametrically opposed to your belief system rather than the one that you are sort of being funded by right he has upside down twitter logos so i i imagine they're the oligarchy yeah uh-huh because they banned him yeah because they banned him right right okay so that's why that's why he had to get mad yeah you might have missed that little bit of symbolism in the video yeah it was uh pretty subtle yeah because at first he was he was doing like a leg move that looked like what happens if I was sitting on the toilet for too long and my leg went to sleep

and I had to stand up to get it going again. But I guess that's dancing for him. But Robin Panacchia at Wonkette sort of pointed out this new thing that he's into because I hadn't seen it. This guy, Brian Clotis, posted a tweet that says, for a while, I thought I would never create again, but I kept going and refused to let the woke mob steal what I do best. We'll get to that in a second. Create art. Now I'm officially back in the rehearsal room giving fellow canceled artists jobs and with James O'Keefe as my leading man, nonetheless. It's thrilling. And he posted a little clip from their rehearsal from Oklahoma. And again, James O'Keefe is a gift.

He's putting it all on the line for this rehearsal. So here's a quick, quick taste of James O'Keefe in some, I don't know, version of some fucked up production of Oklahoma. This is, the choreography is awful. We don't know what's happening okay let me just spare everyone let me just spare everyone that was that was some sloppy community theater and they chose he put that out the guy who's putting the show on put that out that wasn't like a leaked video like it has the it has the vibe of like that mitt romney like somebody's somebody snuck into one of those fundraisers to hear what he really thinks about poor people

type shit but it is there this is the best they've looked i will they did have the vocals i will say yeah there's some ringers in there i mean the one guy who looked like the like proud boy who like you're not sure why he joined the proud boys, but he clearly cut his hair to be one. Like, he looked like he was probably, he knows how to perform a bit. Yeah. Along with, like, the retired, like, truck driver guy. This cast is truly an ensemble cast. Yes, of canceled artists.

Right. cast. Yes. Of canceled artists. Right. So to that point, right. Brian Clodis, like, who is this guy being like, oh, I'm, I thank God I get to, you know, give canceled artists a platform. This man is a, first of all, he's a political candidate for the Florida house and also a disgraced theater director, which I feel like they sound like prerequisites for each other. You can't run for Florida house unless you are a disgraced theater director. And you can't be a disgraced theater director unless you ran for the Florida state legislature at some point.

But this guy, he has basically been, he was ousted from a theater company that he started because he just has this like abusive and hyper demanding directing style that everyone's just like, this is counterintuitive to actually making art so i just want to point a couple things out first of all he did a sexy version of pocahontas which he said was much realer to like reality than like most people would believe and one of the people who was performing there i think who was playing pocahontas said quote uh reported that

during rehearsals she had several calls with clotas who told her that he wanted a, quote, happy version of Pocahontas's life, sent notes about making the title character, quote, sexier and insisted on adding upbeat songs for a more Disney-esque version. Also, there were several OSHA violations that they saw occurring during this production. But when she expressed concerns, she said a production manager threatened her with violence in a production meeting. Yeah. This dude was like getting a lot of positive press for like doing these like big stunts. Like I think he did a play where what's the what's the one that has the helicopter?

Is that Miss Saigonigon i think so yeah so he had a real helicopter land and like they did a performance of a titanic play where they actually like sunk a boat in a lake which we're about to talk about so like he was getting just like cheap stunts you know but like the sort of shit media likes to you're gonna say that about pt anderson when daniel day lewis fell down that fucking mine shaft and there will be blood and actually broke his leg or chris nolan who wants to do everything in camera this guy's a fucking visionary okay this is why in that titanic musical he demanded that people do a 40 foot jump into a 12 foot deep pit of stagnant water that he dug to have the

effect of people like falling to their deaths during the sinking of the titanic yes yeah and everybody remembers the dude pinging off of the uh propeller like that's the only person we remember right from that from that film that and the couple that was holding each other as the water was rising in their bed obviously a tragedy but in their reports about this titanic document or play they said quote clotas did not want to employ on-site emts so the tech staff had to get some of the cast certified as lifeguards but there was a snag here too estes said this is the person reporting on clotas refused to let some of the people estes suggested be certified as lifeguards because they did not fit the quote baywatch body type that clotas

demanded huh titanic like that's the first thing you need when hot bodies on the titanic it gets fucking worse so that fucking weird pool that people he was saying had to do 40 foot jumps in to injure themselves they go on to say quote the run of titanic led actor robert wayne to spend nine days in the hospital after spending some time in the bacteria filled pond that uh housed the production the actor's leg, already bitten by a mosquito, started to swell and eventually his quadricep tendon burst. He was unable to work for six months.

That's the worst nightmare. You get a mosquito bite. That's what everyone fears. That's my fear. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. That's why I was afraid of lakes. Look at us. The water has to be moving even i remember the first time i went to like a camp where it was

like hey we're going to the lake i'm like it looks all green in there like is that safe and then i watched all these like white kids like cannonball into it i'm like i don't you just like flying over it likeagnant water is gross. Right. And it's like, yo, make sure you shower off immediately or else you're going to get swimmer's itch all over. Swimmer's itch? Yeah.

I'm like, what is this? I think you just made that up. That's what they called it up there in Michigan. No, I'm saying the camp counselors just made that up. Oh, yeah, maybe. But, I mean, yeah yeah it is my worst nightmare i've learned to get into natural bodies of water since but it is like the kind of thing where you you're in a fucking titanic play but your bug bite and the cesspit you were performing in leads your quadricep to burst like what that's uh quadricep to burst yeah not good i never even heard of that yeah i

didn't think that that was possible now i get to live in the scary world where i know it's possible right right and now you're gonna look like paul in 90 day fiance who wears like a rubber suit to go into like the river because you think just full mesh suits to go anywhere and i'll yeah i'll put a condom on because that stuff stuff can swim up there. I read it in the Amazon River. It happens. There's old fish. That's all it takes. That's all stuff that I'm

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rightly be horribly embarrassed and held accountable for everything that's happening. I do wonder if this is, like the degree to which this has failed and the fact that it was sort of the, like dubbed in the mainstream media as like the acceptable war on terror. And now it's like we're seeing how just absolutely fucked it's become like i i do wonder if this is going to actually like get into the zeitgeist and get into like

people's opinions of like american military intervention because this shit yeah just our pattern of these little wars that drain resources and just completely unproductive militarism and occupation policies i mean yeah like it's funny the already conservatives like have their own ideas when most people are like no it was a failure when we fucking started it that was the fucking problem yeah and no amount of whatever whatever you think could have solved it was going to do that because we're already going into a country and trying to force some like widespread ideological change to a place where people were like largely illiterate and had a system of like feudal warlords who are the ones like controlling certain reasons be like no no you

get a central government people are gonna vote they're gonna fucking love it don't worry we're america you guys taking that hold on here's uh here's money to for sorry if we blew up stuff and here you can use this to keep to bribe people because the thing is like every every step was completely fucked up and now we have to look at more like the most horrifying shit right of people who are running towards planes because they see it that as their last fucking opportunity to avoid a certainly completely fucked up life under the rule of the taliban if not death for in the instances of people that were assisting foreign nationals or whatever. That's apparently a thing that a lot of Taliban people are now asking,

well, who was helping foreigners? Yeah. Yeah, and it's hard to think that this was going to end well at any point. But to see it now at its full end point with just total collapse, it's heartbreaking. I think it's been interesting to also kind of see people have this revisionist history over who was fighting against this from the beginning like there's there's been all these articles saying like nobody was protesting against it like nobody did and it's like that's not true like all these people like what are you talking

about no we were not okay with this and like even as a kid i remember there were people on twitter who were sharing the like disney propaganda videos like after 9-11 remember they like had all the disney stars make videos that were like going to war is like my disney dream like they literally had like shia abub and hillary duff and all of these like Disney celebs, like trying to convince children like war is dope. And even I remember as a kid being like, this is weird. Like this is not okay.

Like why is Shia LaBeouf reading me a poem about how like it's good to send people to Afghanistan? Like, right. Yeah. Like it just, I don't, I think it's just like one of those really intense

examples of like when america came together in just every regard like propaganda machines for children teenagers everyone just like was like we have to push this idea and everyone was like and everyone was like no this is horrible this is a bad idea i remember the gulf war and they made ninja turtle toys that were like after the armed forces because i had like a air force donatello shit in like desert camo and stuff and i was like what the at the time i was like oh cool the ninja turtles come in armed forces yeah additions now but i was like cool this is another ninja turtle toy not realizing oh right that's me playing with figures that are going to be echoed back to me on a television screen. Where I'm getting a version where, like, my parents are like, man, that's fucking Bush doing all this shit.

I'm like, what's going on? Anyway, I'll keep playing with my toy. Here I was. I just thought I was enjoying the film Cadet Kelly and it's indoctrinated with a love of the military right yeah like wow now i have an irrational fear of anyone who's not a white christian american and it's wild too to see people like barbara lee who in congress she was i believe the only vote against the authorization for use of military force in afghanistan the only one to say no in 2001 and now she's out here like i fucking told you at the time and because she got fucking dragged

for the shit that she said because she was truly like i don't see a military solution for what happened with 9-11 i going to occupy afghanistan is not the solution to this larger picture we had and to think that 20 years ago it was one person this one black woman was the only person who said are you what the fuck that's right no but shit and here we are now like asking these questions like what went wrong rather than broadening out to we should this is this was so wrong from the beginning right and if you had taken every cent that was spent on military intervention and put that towards investing and infrastructure and just giving money to the people of afghanistan to spend it as they think would best benefit their society like i mean two trillion dollars we spent

yeah you know that's a ton and and and all because we didn't we didn't bother to understand the nuances of another culture and and then just essentially just gave uh hamid karzai just said yo man if you got to pay these people to figure it out, then do how much cash you need. Yeah, you got to get. And then you wonder why it completely collapses when the in the U.S. leaves, because they weren't. It was all bandaid fixes on top of like a deep sucking wound that needed like some something other than just sort of this idea of like neoliberalism and fucking democracy and this other shit you're not going to get like institutional like deep cultural changes when you're pointing guns at the people and like don't actually respect them as people which seems right the way that uh and now we have to live with the shame of you know it's because look i didn't vote for the iraq war any of that shit or whatever but i'm an i'm a conscious american person and to see the just fear and how dejected and just dead these people feel that they have no options is horrifying and it's it

just makes you i. I mean, again, most people who have some level of awareness about American foreign policy was never going to be like, I can't believe America did this. Right. Because most of history is like, yeah,

I can believe America did that. Yeah. America loves doing this shit. Right. And now I'm looking at it. I'm like, but then you see this version, people are clinging to planes that are taking off.

Like that's not even the sky. Yeah. That's not even the sky yeah that's not someone who has options because that there's no way in your mind you go okay i can hold on to this plane up into the sky to wherever it goes down but in that moment that's your only option it's it's just horrific but yeah i hope jack that this may be people see it but i don't know how much of that footage you're going to see on mainstream news that I mean, there and again. It leaves a trail of bodies behind. Yeah. There's a 27-year-old, the youngest and first female mayor in Afghanistan, Zarifa Ghaffari, who as recently as three weeks ago was like, you know, there are progressive people in Afghanistan

and in Kabul. I feel like we might be able to pull something off. And now she's like, oh, I'm just sitting here waiting for them to come. There's no one to help me or my family. I'm just sitting with them and my husband. They will come for people like me and kill me. I can't leave my family anyway. Where would I go? That's the direct quote. And then she couldn't talk anymore. And her dad was killed by the Taliban last year. The Taliban has made three attempts on her life. It's just like the U.S. military goes over there and it's almost like they're working with the Taliban to like reveal who, who's like not on board with the Taliban.

And then they leave like, all right, there's your, there's your rat. Here's your targets. Like here's all the people that you're going to want to talk to after we leave. Yeah.

Just, yeah. And I, you'd hope that, I mean, the, Just yeah. And you'd hope that, I mean, the the U.S. would have a real concentrated effort to evacuate people, especially those that, you know, put themselves in harm's way to help this completely misinformed and fucked up military campaign. But no, just abandoning them. It's just, I don't know.

I mean, if you don't have enough reasons to feel ashamed of this place, then my God, watching people with no option left because the U.S. abandoned them is a good place to start. All right. And finally, what is obviously not the most important news story in the world right now, but perhaps is the most important Taco Bell-based story. Taco Bell is...

How do we pivot? I don't know, man. That's not what I'm going to do. Here's a new American shame. Taco Bell. Right. Micro-militarism. And if you're still not ashamed enough, Taco Bell.

So there's been an overall shift in our fast food consuming habits toward drive-thrus during the pandemic. And, you know, this is after in 2019, there was an overall movement towards like trying to get rid of drive-thrus because they're ecologically bad. They're bad for the health, not only of the people consuming the fast food, but the people who live around there and work around there because it's just a lot of idling cars. But now that consumer habits have temporarily changed, the fast food industry is just doubling down and Taco Bell is at the forefront with this, what's being called Taco Bell Defy for some reason but yeah like i said it looks like a car wash that's run by daft punk yeah it looks like the the old banks like i like i like when my mom would take me to do her errands and the old yeah with the tube and they send it it looks just like that

right yeah it feels like yeah what you know the future of just hyper consumption would be it's like and drive through your calorie dispensing booth and they'll just shoot a bunch of gorditas into your window yeah i who needs taco bell this quickly i just i can't imagine any situation where i'm like i need it so so fast. They're like, damn, I wish they had three more drive through lanes. Just like shoot it directly into my car in like this, this like proprietary vertical lift system they're using to like lower your food to you. Are they trying to patent the dumb waiter?

Like that? That seems like they're trying. Yeah, it does. I'm just kind of like, I don't feel like you've discovered anything new here taco bell right i mean just to get more people i mean they're already facing a ton of shortages with supply things but hey defy all the expectations i guess with this yeah format why is it called like is there even logic to around the word defy

i mean that's like the cliched thing that everybody in the world of capitalism like they want to defy and disrupt and like defying your ability to eat taco bell slowly like what right disrupt the relative peace people had before five lane drive-thrus like defying your ability to see the people who make your food as humans and just making you think at all yeah oh my god did you see did you know humans work at that taco yeah it's like you scan a qr code you don't even order through a human now right yeah you go you order on the app you drive up scan a qr code and and like i heard like really nice music plays so you don't hear the screams yeah it's a very pleasant experience you just get your stuff keep

your eyes ahead and keep moving and just keep on the one hand though as someone who's like worked in a quick service restaurant that is kind of the drill like you never have to deal with an actual customer i like on that side i'm like okay i guess that like oh you like i would just be messing around with my friends in the robot taco bell kitchen right exactly and someone who's upset about a missing item like would just have to talk to a faceless window that just like it's like cannot compute your order now fuck off yeah somebody's saying that on the other a lot on the other end of that. With a voice changer.

Right. Just so it sounds like a robot. Fuck out of here, man. I ain't get paid enough to fuck with this bullshit. Get your tired ass busted car the fuck out of here before I come out there and smack the shit out you. It's like, oh. It's pretty wild. So McDonald's drive-thru visits grew by 26% in the spring of 2020, and drive-thru orders accounted for 90% of their sales in the second quarter.

Yikes. Yeah. I mean, I can believe it. I don't know. I mean, I live in LA, so I have a car. I drive everywhere, and I definitely wish every place had drive-thru. Like, I was never a drive-thru person. Yeah.

I mean, the thing about me is that I never want bad food from drive-thru like i and i was never a place first yeah i mean the thing about me is that i never want bad food from drive-thru i'm like can can like good restaurants have drive-thru right well funny you ask because uh some of our finest dining institutions applebee's and chipotle are opening their own uh drive-thru options that one one sounds dangerous, but I feel like anytime I go to Applebee's it's because I want to drink a fishbowl of alcohol. Which is weird because you kind of go to

Applebee's for the experience. I hate to say it, but you want the ambiance at Applebee's. You get to eat good in the neighborhood. Literally, you're driving around in the neighborhood eating and drinking a big gulp of booze chipotle though i feel like you go really slow like yeah i've seen how slow people are to build a burrito bowl sometimes like is that another qr code situation they better qr code that shit because yeah that's like

as to just be like, you set it all up ahead of time because people, I don't understand how it's one of my fears and Chipotle open. People are still like that baffled by their situation

and process. It's weird. One of my weaknesses is being behind somebody who's taking too long to order fast food. Like I'll fucking turn into the hulk like i don't understand when people are there with like their hands on their hips looking at a menu board like

oh huh yeah now what do you do you like this uh the the chicken fries are they good what's your favorite god fucking they don't give a fuck i'm here because i want a self-hatred meal quickly sir please i would the last time i went to chipotle i was behind someone who was like detailed asking them to explain the difference between the burrito bowl and the salad which if you know anything about chipotle they are the exact same thing the bowl and the salad are the same except more lettuce yeah the salad comes with dressing that is the only difference and she was literally like no no break this down one more time what does the salad have in it it's like look make it yourself

what are you doing you're seeing what i'm just putting shit in this bowl and then if i give you this other little dressing cup that just recontextualizes it yeah that's what it is so then it's a salad suddenly but if you take that it's justextualizes it yeah that's what it is so then it's a salad suddenly but if you take that right it's just the goddamn bowl it's just the bowl they are trying to like so burger king has this like big brother like ai system called deep flame that pushes foods that are popular in the area that day or might be popular because of the weather um they like basically are just using algorithms to put all this data in and then tell you what it thinks you want i don't know why i would care what burger king thinks i want i would just go there you get all self-conscious

because it predicts your ordering like you're like like i would never get that first of all i don't think that fish sandwich is good at burger king i don't know why i did that mcdonald's is acquiring an israeli artificial intelligence firm called dynamic yield tim hortons and popeyes are also rolling out predictive personalized systems so they're like going in a real minority report like direction yes look if if raytheon if raytheon has to collab with popeyes so it'll speed up the people figuring out that they just want red beans and rice the family size and can keep it moving so be it i'll embrace the true you know yeah the defense contractors inevitably get part of it yeah like if that's what we need to get people to realize like yeah i want an ice coffee and i'm

gonna keep the burger king line moving like okay when someone goes to a place that's known for one thing and then you get something that has nothing to do with the place that's another really frustrating experience right again this is me raging out in my mazda and a fast food drive-thru line so right well ashley it's been such a pleasure having you as always. Where can people find you and follow you? Twitter at TheAshleyRay, the with two E's, Instagram at TheAshleyRay,

or just listen to TV I Say with Ashley Ray, my podcast. The second season is coming back next week. Nice. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying i think a lot of people know i like post my weed spreads on twitter like my joint spreads in my case and there was like one time i did it and all these people thought they were tampons for some reason which i didn't like people were like are those and i was like no they're joints you idiots

and then there was like some girl who posted this like really beautiful picture of like decorative candles like long thin can and ever like i've gotten tagged 80 times people just being like i thought these were your joints i thought these were just tons of your joints and so i love that i'm just so known as a stoner on twitter that people just see like anything that looks like weed and they're like oh those must be like, Oh, those must be Ashley's joints. That must be Ashley's like daily weed joint stash. And I'm just like, no, those are candles.

Thank you. Decorative chop. Just a lineup of bowling pins. They're like, are those your joints? Yeah. They're joints. Dude,

smoking 10 today. Okay. Wow. Well, I think, yeah, it's probably because the joint papers, those cones that you use are so colorful and not the standard,

like raw, you know, organic paper with the filter shit so everyone's they they're the most whimsical joints i've seen yes listeners if you've never seen one of my joint spray it's it's a piece of art yeah it is using natural veggie dyes to get beautiful papers it's oh that's what it is yeah yeah so because people are always like isn't this bad for your lungs? And it's like, no, look, I'm already incinerating. I'm already like matter and inhale. We're already smoking like 10 joints a day. OK, I think, you know, whatever damage is happening, it's happening.

Miles, where can people find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also, the other pod for 2020dayfiance, Weed and 90day, Sophie Alexander and I. And you can catch that on twitch.tv slash 420dayfiance to get those wonderful faded takes on reality. Some tweets that I like. First one is from the New York Times pitch bot. It's at Doug J. Balloon, but that's the name that they did.

Just to take a little jab at the New York Times. And it said, we wanted to understand what's happening Doug J. Balloon, but that's the name that they did, just to take a little jab at the New York Times. And it said, we wanted to understand what's happening in Afghanistan. So we talked to three unvaccinated Trump supporters at an Arby's in Harrisburg. Uh-huh. That sounds about right. And then another one from Olive McGowan tweeted,

if you have mommy and daddy issues, then it actually cancels out your good. It's true. Scientific. Yeah. A tweet I've been enjoying is from Liz Hines at Anti-Capitalism, who tweeted, trying to conceal my not COVID cough like it's a zombie bite. I feel like that's how we all feel a little bit.

I do that with weed sometimes. Yeah. I always have to be like, that's my, it's weed. It's my weed's weed it's my yeah i'm like i smoked a blunt and i had a bunch of wax in it that's why i'm coughing this hard yeah please just let me buy this red onion and yeah i was like in this apartment and you know like you do the nice thing you don't get in an elevator with people because you're like oh don't want to cry and they insisted they're like no it's fine get in the elevator with me

and the second i step on i like got weed cough and like was just it was just like these people have to think i'm crazy and i said be like no it's weed i promise right i feel like everyone has to say that yeah and they're like tell girl we can smell it we can you smell like a walking ounce like yeah we get it uh well you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes.

Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song are we going to send people to check out today? Just a collaboration between some great Canadian musicians and a Japanese artist, Jonah Yano and Bad Bad Not Good together on this track called Goodbye Blue. Jonah's vocals are like really dope, kind of, you know,

James Blake-y, sort of, you know, falsetto but haunting, but it's got a lot of emotion to it. And Bad Bad Not Good, I mean, as producers, as musicians, they're fucking undefeated. So just a great collaboration between the two. So check this one out. It's called Goodbye Blue. All right. Go check that out. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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