The Daily Zeitgeist - And The Treason Is You, Messy Musk 7.16.18

Episode Date: July 16, 2018

In episode 190, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Josh Androsky to discuss the incident involving proud boys at the Los Angeles bar 'The Griffin,' Elon Musk's comments towards one of the rescue divers in Thailand and the money he donates to Republican PAC's, Trump and Putin's press conference in Helsinki, Michael Jackson being chemically castrated by his father Joe Jackson, Sacha Baron Cohen's new show, and more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I believe I can fly. I believe I can touch the sky. Jack O'Brien and Miles Gray. Talk like a gang every day. Woo! That is courtesy of Throbbing for Guest. Hey, watch out.

By the way, I am using that as my AKA, not because R. Kelly sang it, though I do like everything he stands for. I am using it because I thought it was written by Michael Jackson. I thought I remembered that from a correct article. And we are going to be talking about Michael Jackson later on. And so I thought it was a great tie-in. And I would wow you guys with that amazing fact. It turns out I was wrong, and You Are Not Alone,

which sounds a lot like I Believe I Can Fly, was written by R. Kelly for Michael Jackson. Oh, you got it mixed up, didn't you? My bad. And now I've shouted out and recommended two R. Kelly songs, so we're just going to move on to my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Sit right back and hear a tale of a hustler called Miles Gray. He used the clock around the block from where potatoes stayed.

Black BMW with rims to match, windows bulletproof. One night he jumped out the car and caught a gullet full of pomplamoose. He caught a gullet full of pomplamoose. He caught a gullet full of pomplamoose. He caught a gullet full of pomplamoose. He caught a gullet full of pomplamoose. You could be with a zike and getting loose and then you catch a gullet full of pomplamoose. Thank you for that Wyclef John inspired AKA from Carson

Ray Martin at Toil in Trouble. Bubble bubble my guy for that AKA. And that was a rhyme. And I'm on time. And you will be rhyming for the rest of the episode. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious

comedian and really of the moment right now in the zeitgeist, Mr. Josh Androsky! Hello! I'm trapped in the zeitgeist, baby. I'm a celebrity. Get me out of here.

So we're starting a little late because you were on the phone with the Washington Post. Yeah, no big deal. No big whoop. Just me. I was talking to Megan McArdle about our favorite Brookstone catalog items. Yeah. All right. I'm sure we'll get into why you were on the phone with the Washington Post.

But before we get to know our guest a little better, we like to tell our listeners what they are about to hear us talk about. We're going to talk about our man, Elon Musk, telling it like it is, calling that rescue diver a pedophile. Pedo. Wow. And he's also been outed as a huge Republican PAC donor, which, you know, surprised him because he's a socialist just like you, Josh.

We're also going to talk about the revelation from Michael Jackson's doctor who says that Joe Jackson had Michael Jackson chemically castrated at age 12. Crazy story. and chemically castrated at age 12. Crazy story. We're going to talk about Trump v. Putin, the winky in Helsinki is what we're calling it. Trump winked at Trump. Trump v. Putin, like Trump e-Putin.

Yeah, exactly. Or W slash Putin. We're going to talk about this dude who the Senate confirmed to head up the Department of Justice Criminal Division, who is... Sounds like he's probably great. Yeah.

I'm going to go right on. If the Senate confirmed him, I'm going to go ahead and say that he rules. Oh, yeah. With almost no opposition. What? From the opposition party? He has no experience as a prosecutor. So we'll find out...

That's actually probably good. ...what he does have experience with. Well, Russian banks. Yeah. We're going to look at the media bias chart that was put out by allgeneralizationsarefalse.com. Isn't that a generalization? It is. Yes.

They betrayed themselves. I think no one- Does their website explode now that I've proven them wrong with their own logic? 404. Yep. And we're also going to talk about Sacha Baron Cohen's new show. But first, we like to get to know Josh. And Josh, why don't you tell us, I don't know if it's going to come into playing, your search history, overrated, underrated.

Let's just get in it. What's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Something from my search history that's revealing about who I am is that last night after confronting Nazis, my girlfriend and I just sat in the house and searched animals who are friends. Unlikely pets. Not unlikely animal friends. We didn't care if they were likely, unlikely, whatever.

Just two dogs that are homies? I mean, whatever. As long as the animals are friends, then I'm down. I mean, my favorite was Baby Monkey Riding on a Pig. Oh, everybody loves that baby monkey riding on a pig, dude. Everybody loves that baby monkey. If Trump nominated that baby monkey to the Supreme Court, I think that would heal the nation. Yes, 100%.

What is something you think is overrated? Something I think is overrated is the Bar the Griffin. I would say the Los Angeles Bar the Griffin is very overrated. Okay. So I was there on Saturday for a friend's birthday party. Oh, yeah. And I was sitting in like the nook that's towards the entrance with my back to the bar. And then suddenly I hear, you know, that sound of like shit going down at a bar because you hear the chairs go.

Yeah. And just like all the furniture moving. Yeah. And I turn around and i just see people rush each other then i'm like wait hold up there's a lot of brawly dudes like american shit on wait there's some fred perry shirts wait there's some maga hats and i said in a split second i went from having my back to a bar and i go oh this shit became what looked like a proud boys meetup yep and then as we're leaving i see josh androsky over there, and I said, oh, you're going to be on the show Monday, huh? Well, this will be something to talk about.

So yeah, the Griffin. Always creating content. That's what I like about you. You were like, got to have a scoop for the zeitgeist. So tell us what happened. So I was texted by a friend who was like, yo, there's a giant Proud Boys meetup. And by giant Proud Boys, I mean by the number of Proud Boys and the girth of the Proud Boys.

There were some corn-fed hogs in that group. Real sweaty guys. The type of dudes that are never not moist, you know? And they met up at the Griffin. And so I got some folks from DSALA, which I'm a member of, Socialists of America, Los Angeles, and some folks from Nolympics Los Angeles and Defend Northeast Los Angeles. And we were like, let's go, because as like socialists and activists, one of our main jobs is to make sure that Nazis don't have fun in our city. is to make sure that Nazis don't have fun in our city. We're sort of like in that scene in Pulp Fiction where Marcellus Wallace is like,

you've lost your Los Angeles privileges. That's us. We're the ones who say to the Nazis, you've lost your Los Angeles privileges. Now, what about these guys? I mean, they just sound like they're proud to be boys. What are proud boys? So, okay.

So you know how Nazis suck? Now imagine if Nazis didn't just suck, but were also super fucking annoying. Right, okay. So you know how Nazis suck? Now imagine if Nazis didn't just suck, but were also super fucking annoying. Right. Okay. So you add a layer of frat culture onto people who are yearning for a white ethnostate and you've got yourself a proud boy. Right. They are run by Gavin McInnes, the former creator of Vice.

Yeah. So they're built on a pile of cocaine and underage models. And they do this a lot where they'll go to a bar and try to harass and intimidate and provoke people into fighting. And then they because the American conservative, especially the white male American conservative, has it all. You know what I mean? They have it all. The one thing I mean? They have it all. The one thing they don't have is victimhood. So they want that because it's not enough

to have power in all three branches of government. It's not enough to have white supremacy systemically, like allow you to have more opportunities than people of color. What they also need is everybody to like them. And so the fact that people don't think they're cool drives them fucking nuts. Especially when you get jumped in,

when you go to the third degree. Yes. And you've got to recite your serials and get little tummy punches. Yeah. I mean... We were watching. So these are a couple of details about the Proud Boys

in addition to them. So they say they're anti-racist. So how could they be bad? They're also anti-racial guilt. So those two things do not coexist. But a couple of things about them. They think that they get like superpowers from not masturbating. So they just like brag about how little they've come in the last like month.

And when you think about a bunch of angry young boys, the main thing that you want to think about is just fucking jerk off, dude. Just jerk off once. Jerk off one fucking time. And then maybe, just maybe, all of that rage will come out of you in the form of life. Yes. And they also beat each other into the Proud Boy fraternity, much like the Bloods and Crips beat, you know, jump you in.

One big difference. Yeah. So they give you little tummy punches. Miles showed me a video of one of them, and the guy is literally giggling as he's being quote beat in. And this is a phrase I feel like I wouldn't say This is almost disrespectful

To gang members It is disrespectful To gang members Who actually like You know I mean like Getting jumped in is You get fucking stomped out Like the whole point is like

Can you endure this shit Because you're down for the set Or whatever And this was Anyway That Suffice to say This was not what I would call

Jumping in It was some sort of Physical contact It's more like Bounce housing in. Yeah. Anyway, so cut to the Griffin. You're there because your whole thing is,

you know, you want these people to know that society does not accept their presence, especially not in this city. Right. But mostly, so we didn't want there to be like a big giant confrontation. What we wanted to do was to alert the bar, you know, like, hey, these aren't just guys

that voted for Trump. The Proud Boys are identified by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a hate group, and rightfully so. Right. This is a neo-Nazi organization. Kessler, Jason Kessler, who did the Unite the Right movement, he was a Proud Boy member. But then I think that Gavin McGinnis tried to disavow him and distance himself and the group as much as possible from that, even though there were many of them. Right. And there still are a bunch.

You know, it is a hate group. It is a white supremacist group and i'm sorry if there are a couple latinos or a couple jews like i'm a jew and there were jewish nazis and there were black slave owners and the reason why is power safety and i think also you know these are some weak-willed people who who are not given any solutions by the liberal leadership, especially of Los Angeles, when our mayor is out campaigning in Las Vegas instead of watching over the city. And so when you're not given any, when liberalism fails you and you're not given any solution and liberalism takes all its time fighting socialism, which offers practical

solutions like free college, free healthcare, all that shit, then you're going to try to go for somebody that offers you a solution. And the solution is, oh, it's women. Oh, it's gay people. Oh, it's Jews. Oh, it's people of color. You know, it's trans people.

And so for weak-willed people, this scapegoat gives them a reason to keep going because there's no other solutions being offered to them. And so they – we went there in order to just sort of explain to the bar staff these guys are Nazis. They wear a fucking uniform. And let me just make a quick distinction because there's a shit ton of – the dumbest people in the world are tweeting at me right now um saying we're not nazis we're not from the the 1940s in germany and it's like yeah dude i get it you're not national socialists from germany from the fucking weimar republic baby like you're not okay babe you're not Himmler's fucking nephew, cha-cha. But here in America, we have a handy term to call right-wing hate groups that practice fucking discrimination and violence, and it's Nazi. Right.

The word works. And it's also super funny that these people are the ones that are like, what do I have to call a trans woman a woman? Why can't I call it him a him? Right. But don't call me a Nazi. Right. You know what I mean? It's like, yo, a trans woman was born a woman why can't i call it him a him right but don't call me a nazi you know what i mean it's like yo uh a trans woman was born a woman like a trans woman it biologically is a woman uh and you chose to be a nazi and you're more precious about your identification you know what i mean like it's

it's such fucking backward shit so we go to the bar we implore the bar staff multiple times like yo these guys are nazis these guys are racists literally one of the bouncers goes um the only color i see is green right oh cool yeah right yeah and so that's a donald trump jr line so you know it's smart so fucking like you know we're just trying super hard to make sure that the the bar kicks these people up before something goes down. And sure enough, they ignore us multiple times. Multiple bar staff members told us that they alerted the management to this. Nothing happened.

And I'm sitting with a group of maybe seven or eight people. There's about 20 Proud Boys. And I see them in circle and sort of like a semicircle, a couple regular bar patrons, just normal folks who were there for a different birthday party. And that's when I'm like, okay, it's my job now to go in. I have experience dealing with fascists everywhere from like shitty LAPD officers to, you know, just your garden variety Nazi fuck. And so what I do as a Jew who reads white, who like I in this moment, and I encourage anybody else who's listening to this to do this, use your privilege in this moment. I used my privilege to go over and distract them from the normal bar patrons who were getting, you know, very agitated, being harassed and encircled by the proud boys um i didn't catch it all but you can guess what they're saying

yeah getting around them yeah getting around them and basically i'm sure it had to do with the fact that they were flaunting their make america great again hats and yelling about fucking uh you know whatever the fuck proud boys yell about their white ethno state dreams or whatever um and that's when i was like well let me be a distraction i'm i'm i'm an idiot what what i do is i'm a dick right like i'm an asshole right but i'm a dick to people who deserve it and so i just go out and i be a dick to nazis uh and so i was a dick i was like hey take off that stupid fucking hat you know uh you know shit like oh hey when's the last time you come you know like maybe maybe if you came into the hat like it would grow an actual boy like now to be fair that was the first question you asked me when you walked in when's the last time you come morning when the last time yeah i mean it's kind

of like it's on my business card um josh andreski when's the last time you come yeah I mean it's kind of like it's on my business card um Josh Andruski when's the last time you come yeah uh so I was just kind of fucking with them and then before I know it they've all now circled me right right and my girlfriend Madison fucking charges in and gets in between um because what she sees is there's another proud boy coming around them to kind of like rush me and sucker punch me. And she then which, by the way, great move when you've outnumbered somebody 20 to one is to hide behind your bigger friends, go around them and sucker punch the person that you're up against. But they didn't know it. No one punched you, right? Well, so Madison puts her hand on one of the that guy that was like gonna, you know, rush me.

And then that guy fucking shoves her like two hand shoves her and she's a very small woman you met her yes um yes she's not she's not a large american yeah no she is a small one so they shove her like to the ground and then i lose it yeah and then one of them fucking takes a swing at me and knocks off my glasses uh but you know he either tried to slap me or he was so drunk that he missed right and uh then finally after the woman had been shoved the security stepped in and pulled me aside right uh as though i was the one who started all of this uh when in reality we had been at the bar for about 45 minutes trying to get the bar to kick out the Nazis.

Right. Before something just like this happened. Right. And so at that point, you know, all hell broke loose. I may or may not have allegedly in the scrum grabbed one of the Proud Boys MAGA hats and chucked it out into the street. That's assault, brother. I mean, look, allegedly I may or may not have done that.

Right. After they shoved my girlfriend to the ground and knocked my glasses off my face. Oh, it's a guy with glasses. Right. You wouldn't hit a man with glasses. Well, glasses are, as we know from the Khmer Rouge, are a sign that you are a dissident who can't be trusted. Exactly. So at that point then, the bar staff is like yelling at me.

And I'm like. That's where I like. Clearly, I noticed it once Madison got pushed over. Right. That's when it really kicked off. Yeah. And yeah. And I could.

And it wasn't clear to me. It seemed like the bar staff was yelling. I don't know who they were yelling at. Like, it seemed like at times they were yelling at you or the other people seemed very so there were two dudes and one of them was like the manager i assume because everybody was like following his lead he was like a big tatted up dude who was like visibly drunk and like i don't drink i just go to bars to hang out with friends and make sure nazis don't have fun um and so this drunk fucking asshole is like yelling at me he's like how am i supposed to know they're Nazis?

And I was like, you could have Googled it when we told you 45 minutes ago before they shoved a woman. They're wearing a uniform. They're wearing their Nazi cosplay uniform. And then he's like, yeah, but man, I'm a liberal. I'm from San Francisco. Why am I defending them? And you see that in a video. And then I go, I don't know.

Why are you defending them right uh my other favorite moment uh from the video footage of the night was outside yes outside they're like the proud boys are still like yelling threatening things yeah somehow the irish were slaves yeah the irish were slaves so what what's's your point? And one of the more angry and tough acting gentlemen, his mom walks up behind him and is like, we are going. It is time, honey. It is time to get out of here. So I have no confirmation that it's his mom.

But that was mom energy. That was some real BME. That was an Uber drive. Big mother energy. Big mommy energy. Yeah, it was definitely not Uber. It's not like, fam, I'm going to just cancel your shit and go. That's like, we have to go.

I'm watching your kid. And you got drunk? We have to go. Yeah, exactly. It's like, I'm grandma, but I'm a real mom to your son. And that plays into the whole thing of mommy taking them home because they're all from fucking Orange County. They're all from Simi Valley, Orange County, like around then because there's just not enough of them here. Well, a lot of them outside were trying to puff their chests up like, oh, I'm from East LA or whatever.

I was doing all kinds of shit like that. And I was like, I don't feel it. The one Mexican dude that was in the Proud Boys is, I a pretty famous proud boy because he is mexican and gavin mckinnis likes to you know show him off as his little toy uh his name is levi romero and uh he um there's a lovely video that surfaced after the incident of him um i guess uh somebody from the orange county gazette or or some orange county paper wrote about the Proud Boys. And he recorded a video of himself threatening to murder that guy and rape his wife. Cool. And so, you know, like, these are the people, right?

Like, they say, oh, we're not Nazis. They say all this shit in order to try to engender some sort of sympathy. But in reality, that's who they really are. Well, yeah, and then even after, I know some people were trying to go to Bigfoot up the street and they got kicked out but they were also harassing other people that I know using

gay slurs and for whatever reason saying this is Nigeria or some shit it was like very they were not there to just like have a fun convivial evening with themselves they went out to fuck shit up and harass people that's what they do.

And I want to make a point. They try to hide behind the First Amendment a lot and say, look, we have the right to peaceably assemble. There's no such thing as a peaceable assembly of Nazis, like literally any action that's done to a Nazi. If I would have gone up and just sucker punch one of those Nazis, which I'd never do because i've got very jewish bones uh but if i would have gone up and sucker punched one of those nazis uh that would be self-defense because they're a nazi right which is why it's okay to always punch nazis there's a yeah i think there were the response from the bar was like well we were trying to you know kill them with kindness and just serve them so they would leave and that's how we've done things in the past or whatever

and you know i a part of me is like, you know, they obviously fucked up in not handling the situation properly. At all. Handling it at all. It was just a lot of chaos. And then, you know, it's a good reminder, though, too, especially because, like, living in cities like L.A., normally very insulated from that kind of overt,

sort of like in-your-face kind of provocation. But it's here and you know well and here's the problem with trying to kill nazis with kindness what you're doing is you are allowing people inside your establishment to harass and intimidate oppressed minorities right you are you are by being neutral you are in effect siding with the nazis right you're not resisting that. You need to either resist the Nazis or get the fuck out of my city. That's why I was like, I'm never going to the Griffin again because their policy

of trying to kill Nazis with kindness is the most backwards fucking bullshit thing in the world. That guy was from San Francisco. How could it be backwards? I don't get it. Later on, as you mentioned, the Bigfoot Lodge, like I'm friends with one of the bartenders there and she texted me.

Yeah, the Proud Boys tried to come in here and we said, no, it's that fucking easy. Right. You know, I have a friend who manages a bar in L.A. and you can be proactive about this. First of all, if you're a bar owner in Los Angeles, you should be in touch enough with your community to know who the Proud Boys are, to know who these groups of neo-Nazis are that are trying to hang out, especially because they've done it multiple times. And they also organize online because there's not enough of them in Los Angeles. They have to reach out to Orange County, Simi Valley, and places like this. So my friend got tipped that they were trying to come to his bar that he manages.

And he just sent them a message that was like, hey, if you come, you're not going to be let in. Like, we have the right to refuse service to anybody. You're not going to be let in. And what happened? They didn't come in. And that's what the Griffin needed to do is to be in touch or at the very least listen to the patrons who are pleading with them that these guys are Nazis. Right. And now their fucking response is like, oh, we're going to put up a sign that says no ableism. Like, fuck off. Right. And now their fucking response is like, oh, well, we're going to put up a sign that says

no ableism. Like, fuck off. Okay. Like, yeah, they've done, they fucked up. You're given a choice in life. And oftentimes you don't know when this moment will be. And oftentimes this moment happens more than once or it'll only happen once where you decide, do I want to be against the forces of evil or do I want to be complicit with the forces of evil?

And clearly, this guy, because he wanted to be neutral, or he wanted to fucking make money, which I think is what it was, just let Nazis fucking cavort in his bar. Yeah. Well, I think it's hard, too. A lot of people, it's uncomfortable, too, because I think most people aren't used to being in a position where they have to confront something directly right and and a lot of people you could tell too

like there was a lot of from looking at the other patrons in the bar i saw a lot of shook people who were just sort of like whoa like is this happening like do i say something or whatever it's and yeah it's uh that's a lot of people i think and that's when the moment where a lot of people try and sort of logically argue away. Oh, I'm not being I'm not I'm not complicit because I'm doing this or that. But yeah, it's if you're in a position of power and you control a space and there are Nazis in your space, not kicking out hate groups is complicit. Yeah. And there's nothing else. And that's why the Griffin is overrated.

Yep. That's something that's underrated. I think we got an underrated and a why the Griffin is overrated. Yep. What's something that's underrated? I think we got an underrated and a myth all tied up in there. Yep. So we can go to a break feeling like we got to know Josh pretty well, I think. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered.

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and James Fritz. Sounds good. And the myth would be that it's possible to kill Nazis with kindness. Yep. All right. So guys, let's get into the stories of the day that don't involve our guests directly. By the way, if you want to read more about that story, it is trending. It's number two on the hill right now. Oh, really? The story of your weekend. Oh, I didn't even know that.

Yeah. That's so funny. So Elon Musk also had a weekend. He spent the weekend calling a rescue diver a pedophile, one of the heroes of the cave rescue. He called Sully Sullenberger a punk-ass bitch. Did you see that? No. But it's the same fucking thing.

So, Miles, what did this rescue diver do to— Well, I mean, he caught all this smoke because he had the audacity to describe the situation for what it was by saying that this whole submarine bullshit is a, quote, PR stunt. Right. And that's when he got, I guess, just called a pedophile by Elon Musk. I mean, this guy, God, what was his name? We have a clip of him talking where he's basically just sort of like, oh, Vern Unsworth is his name. He's basically just sort of describing like why this submarine is a bad idea right and it makes sense and you you this it's hard to understand why elon musk had to come for this guy what your thoughts on elon musk's idea was

in sticky submarine where it hurts just had absolutely no chance of working. I had no conception of what the cave passage was like. The submarine, I believe, was about five foot six long, rigid, so it wouldn't have gone round corners or round any obstacles. It wouldn't have made the first 50 meters into the cave from from the dive start point right just just a pr stunt but he went into the cave and was asked to leave very quickly and so he should have been yeah that was like the first

question i had is like you read these articles and they're like, yeah, you have to go through this thing. That's like the width of a basketball hoop or like more narrow than the width, like two thirds of a basketball hoop. And he's like testing out this submarine in a pool. It's like, how the fuck are you going to get through like around a corner? My God, this isn't, it's not like they're, you know, it's not the fucking submarine ride at Disneyland or some shit. That's exactly what it looks like. It's a harrowing rescue operation. Like when we looked at the, at the beginning, I remember we were like, well, why don't you get to fucking swim the kids out?

Right. And then as you see cross sections, you're like, oh, yeah, this is not just a hold my hand and we'll get through this. It looked like an NES platformer. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like a side scroller where it was just like, Oh shit. Like Mario's going to die here.

Yeah. Mario has died in that cave. Yeah. It was six hours in five hours back. Uh, the speed run for Mario. Yes. My record for how quickly I beat Mario.

And, uh, also how long it took the professional divers to make the, to get to the kids and get back. That's not carrying the kids. So it was like that treacherous, you're going around all these curves, all these rocks, crags. And he built a rigid submarine, which didn't really make sense. What was the exact tweet that he called him a pedophile? Because I know it's deleted.

He deleted it. But I wonder what the whole sentence was. He's like, oh, it's kind of sus that there's a British guy living in Thailand. Bet he him a pedophile because i know he's deleted it but like i wonder what the whole sentence he's like oh it's kind of sus that there's a british guy living in thailand bet he's a pedo oh really it was like that sorry pedo guy you really did ask for it that was the second one that was the second one the first one was like i don't know who this british guy this old british guy living in thailand is but it's kind of sus that he's an old british guy living in thailand what a pedo and it's like dude everybody that lives in an old British guy living in Thailand. What a pedo. And it's like, dude, everybody that lives in Thailand isn't Gary Glitter. Right. Wow.

Wow. Okay, cool, Elon. He also said, I'll bet you a signed dollar that it's true. As though your signature will make that dollar worth so much more than the dollar. What an asshole. Fuck off, apartheid fuck. His ego has fully left the planet. I love it.

I love it. i love it once he shot his own car into space with the fucking astronaut lessons like oh that's him actually going into space because he's left earth it's great because like this is the as a socialist like there's no such thing as a good billionaire all billionaires sit upon a fucking pile of stolen wealth you know what i mean and elon musk literally made his money off of government contracts so he's made his money off of our public tax dollars by hoarding tax dollars and everybody up until like two months ago thought he was the coolest fucking dude in the world and now he's finally revealed himself because more than a billion dollars dating a pop star being on whatever fucking stupid marvel movies he wants to be in the thing he cares

about most is posting right it's fucking being a cool guy that people like on twitter yeah so he's he has completely destroyed himself and i am absolutely here for every second of it yeah i i just can't believe yet another white south afric African hero turns out not to be all that cool. Nobody saw it coming. And you guys knew about like the whole emerald mine, right? No. What's the emerald mine thing? His parents owned an emerald mine.

Oh, really? That's like what his start was. Yeah. There's stories of Elon Musk. And that helps to have your parents own an emerald? You know, if you want to become a billionaire, it really helps if your parents own an emerald mine. There are stories of him, like, fucking, and his brothers, like, walking around,

like, having emerald fights. No. Like, I swear to God, like, in their pockets, look it up, look it up. I mean, I am reading, one headline says, we had so much money, we couldn't even close our safe. Elon Musk's dad tells Business Insider about the family's insanely casual attitude to wealth huh yeah okay uh well he does know enough about wealth

to uh want to contribute to the keep the house uh republican super PAC that is trying to keep the republicans in control of the house in this upcoming midterm in November. He donated $40,000, which doesn't seem like all that much, but it still- That's close to the max, right? Still makes him a top 50 donor to the PAC. And he donated a total of $2,000 to both of Hillary Clinton's campaigns and was like, see, I'm a socialist. So yeah,000 to both of Hillary Clinton's campaigns and was like, see, I'm a socialist.

So, yeah, he's probably a bad dude. Well, so here's the thing about that, right? Like his thing on Twitter, did you see his defense of it? His defense on Twitter was, I give them that money so that they'll listen to me. And that's not enough money. Like people pointed out on Twitter, right? Like you need to be like Koch brothers. That's what I'm saying.

You want them to listen? You need to put up Koch brothers. Right. And then that's how you get like an average everyday bad guy to then deny climate change and become an evil person. He's millions of dollars, right? And somebody pointed this out on Twitter. I think it might have been Sam Knight or someone pointed out that's enough money to be – it might have been Sam Knight or someone, you know, someone pointed out that's enough money to be. It might have been Chris Hooks, but he said that's enough money to be like, don't look at my companies.

Right. Like not don't listen to me. But even let's take his shitty argument at face value. Say that he was giving them that money so that they would listen to him. Say that he was giving them that money so that they would listen to him. They haven't. They don't. And so all you're doing is you're giving these people this money so they stay in power just so that they don't listen to you. Right. That's what the smartest man in the world, Elon Musk, wants you to think.

Yeah, if you mine that thread all the way through. Right. Right? Like, follow the logic of his thread. It's oh, I want these guys to be in power who deny climate change, even though I say that I'm the guy that wants to end fossil fuel consumption or whatever. 40,000 to that pack maybe gets a Tesla charging station in front of one

of their office buildings. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So, the big story of the moment is that Trump met with Putin in Helsinki, and then they made remarks to the media that were pretty remarkable. Treasonous? Some people are calling them treasonous. The front page of the Drudge Report, as everybody else was like, oh, he just committed treason, I think.

The front page of the Drudge Report was, go with a picture of Trump catching a soccer ball that Putin threw to him. So they were just like, nailed it. But not everybody is agreeing with them. And even Fox News is not psyched about that. I mean, one of the hot takes out of there was he was like, well, I believe Putin and not the intelligence apparatus in this United States in terms of describing if there was any meddling. What did he say? He was pretty strong with his defense of it, so I think I'm going to believe him on this one.

Yes. It's like the third time I think he said, well, I asked him and I believe him. And yes, he doesn't see why Russia would hack the election and that he wants to see the servers because he thinks the intelligence community is. Well, first of all, he thinks he's better at diagnostic like digital forensics than the intelligence community. Like I got to I got to see these for myself as a man who eats 40 hamburgers every day. I think we can agree that Donald Trump's pretty good at computers. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But yeah, he's just not buying it. And he's like, he denied it pretty strongly. And this

has always been his thing is that he trusts his gut. He trusts his personal relationships. It's why everybody who works for him are his kids and like family. And it's why he thinks that he can just, you know, be like, I looked into his eyes and we're cool. Meanwhile, Putin just big dicked him the whole way. He showed up late, was slouching during the meeting, made his legs wider. I've never seen a man spread like that. That was fucking aggressive. It was amazing.

He had to do groin stretches beforehand to get ready. Yeah, to get his man spread that wild uh and trump looked like he was about to see the principal yeah he was like right and just with his hands like this he i mean again i think we're past the point of being like what does he have on him and just be like yo dude he's not willing to hold rush accountable for a fucking thing but who cares like like my question about all of this is who cares like how does this materially affect your life well i guess it doesn't it will it will affect my life down the road i think as if if more and more elections are being meddled in and we get more of this right

wing kind of congress stepping in but the elections are being meddled by the right wing of the american political parties like Like they're like the main. So like the Russian hacking or whatever, it's arguable how many votes that changed. Right. Like if any, there's no proof yet that there was like legitimate. There's nobody's been like, look, 100000 voting machines. They were added to this. Right.

Like nobody's done that yet. The right wing is kicking people off of voter rolls. They're creating voter idea laws. They're dismantling the Voting Rights Act. Absolutely. And to me, it's just like, I understand that this is hilarious. I understand that this is interesting. But like the fact that this is on the front page of the news all the fucking time, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.

It just it's it's distracting us from what's actually going on in this country. And I just can't state how little I pay attention to it and how much it doesn't affect my life or anybody else's life. Trump will never get impeached as long as the Republicans are in power. Trump will never get impeached as long as the Republicans are in power. Right. The Republicans are going to be in power as long as the Democrats don't offer any solutions to poor Americans. And so we're just in this weird feedback loop where the Democrats are blaming Russia. The Republicans are blaming the Democrats and all the people are just not voting because it doesn't fucking matter. Yeah.

They're not being let they're not being allowed to vote or they just don't fucking care because their eyes glaze over when they hear fucking one of the Johns from Pod Save America go, oh yeah, well this guy struck is a household name now. And they're like, who the fuck is struck? Like, no, but you ask anybody who works for minimum wage who struck is, and they're like, uh, is that a verb? Like I struck out? Yeah. Right.

No, I understand. I, of course, 100% when you look at sort of what the direct threats are to american people they're not coming from russia no but what is what is important too is especially in this upcoming midterms if there is going to be any kind of fair shot at trying to vote some of these republicans out to try and get candidates in which there aren't that many that are fully i think on the same platform that i would be on right but i think that is that is that is the existential threat for me. But do you honestly think that Russians are meddling with voting like ballot boxes?

I know that they are based on what has been written, that they are trying to access as much of that infrastructure as possible. Right. And and trying to access. Right. Like, well, in certain cases did, because I know there are a lot of secretaries of states that for whatever reason, months after were like quietly alerted that like, hey, like hackers access your your system. Sure. And blah, blah, blah. it. Other countries do it. That's that's a given there. People try to fuck with our elections since day one. And I think a lot of it is in response to us fucking with their elections.

But that's neither here nor there. Like there's always going to be a threat of people trying to other countries trying to get what's best for them out of America, right? Like, so if we say that's a constant, which it is, you know, like Israel is getting America to do what Israel wants in so many more outrageous ways than Russia is. And yet nobody's talking about the fact that Israel is, you know, exterminating the Palestinians right now with our tax dollars. And like there, I would argue that Israel is a worse influence on America than Russia is as far as like getting what they want out of Americans. But we talk about Russia because it's what the Democrats use to shift the blame off of

their horrible strategy during the election. Yeah. And it just frustrates me. Well, yeah, I don't buy the whole thing that Russia is to blame for all of this. I'm more interested in, like, understanding and people being aware of the fact that there is this bizarre relationship with a country that is so anti-democratic.

And now this country is even like, is now just sort of out in the open showing that, oh, we're joining this wave too. And I know that the U.S. has been anti-democratic from Jump Street. Right. What I'm saying is to then be like, yo, winking at Putin and shit. Right. And like when you're like, oh, the homies are Xi Jinping and Putin and Duterte or whoever

else. Like that's when you're like, this is the direction that they're trying to move it into. Full kleptocracy. Yeah. And when also to know that this is a person who executes political opponents or journalists or whatever, that's where you're like, it's so unclear to the president how everything works that that's where I'm just, to me, it's the optics of it that are just disheartening. It's not to say, hey, Russia's the reason why wages have completely stagnated or whatever.

That's not the case. But it's part of understanding the history of this country. And like, oh, now we're seeing the pendulum swing the completely other way towards anti-democratic solutions. And now, and we're up there front page on like, we're part of that now. So I have a question. I just thought of something. Is there something to this?

What if Putin actually has nothing on Donald Trump, but Donald Trump just thinks Putin's really cool. That's entirely possible. That's also entirely possible. Right? Yeah, he's just jealous. I mean, he thinks all strongman leaders are cool. Duterte or Duterte. Yeah.

Well, and that's why. The thing that he wants most in the world is to be able to execute journalists and to have people up to rest yeah vanity fair that would make him so fucking happy so yeah carter and like solitary grading carter you wore shorts to to ruth's chris steakhouse in miami beach right and for that crime you will be executed yeah i will say uh for people who are interested in finding out more about how Israel is fucking with the Palestinians using U.S. tax dollars, somebody who is talking about that is super producer Anna Hosnier on her podcast, Ethnically Ambiguous, almost weekly. So you guys should check that show out. I think the two interesting things about what we're seeing now is basically that it started with them dropping the 12 indictments on Russian intelligence agents at the end of last week because they knew he was about to meet with Putin and wanted to force his hand.

And now there's just like an open antagonism between the president and the intelligence community. And I just think, I don't know, we've never seen that before. It'll be interesting to see what happens from here. And it's also forcing people on the right, I think, even to, and this is very early stages. i think they you know in the aftermath of the excess hollywood tape and shit like that they were like well i can't support this guy and then eventually like once people got over there yeah once they ripped families apart they're like i like this i mean do we have audio tax cuts yeah exactly this is like neil cavuto on fox who even i guess this is the thing too like you say jack there are optics to consider, but this is the first time you see more and more like

there's part of this old Russia hawk conservatism where people are like, I'm down with everything, but like, yo. We're trying to paint these guys as communists. Like, what's going on? So this is Cavuto on Trump's performance at the press conference. That's what made it disgusting. That's what made his performance disgusting.

I'm sorry, this is the only way I feel. It's not a right or left thing to me. This is wrong. A U.S. president on far and tall talking to our biggest enemy or adversary or competitor, I don't know how we define them these days, is essentially letting the guy get away with this and not even, you know, offering a mild, a mild criticism. That sets us back a lot. Why is Russia our biggest enemy? In terms of just trying to become... Like that guy just said, Neil Cavuto just was like, Russia's our biggest enemy.

He said it like it was just a fact. Because they're anti-democratic and... And they're trying to destabilize, like, you know, they want to break up the Western alliance and become the real power broker on that continent. I mean, do you think that they're... They invade other countries and, you know... But, like, more so than, like, what the Saudis are doing to the Yemeni, what, you know, like,

horrible countries in, you know, like, okay, so what the Saudis are doing, like, is, to me, I would say Saudi Arabia is America's biggest enemy based on the fact that they're they're going through like one of the biggest genocides right now and we're like kind of helping them and by kind of i mean a lot and by a lot i mean obama started it but like to me like russia just seems like you know how like in the in the spy movie there's the red herring who's like the really loud guy that's like yes you think that one's the villain but then it was the quiet one that was inside the whole time right you know like i i feel like like yes, you think that one's the villain, but then it was the quiet one that was inside the whole time. I feel like... The benefit is that the Saudis got in early enough that we're like,

okay, so we like doing business with you. I mean, obviously the U.S. has so many problematic relationships with other countries. The Saudis maybe did 9-11. You know what I mean? If we're talking about real enemies of America, it just seems so weird to just be like, well, obviously Russia, number one enemy.

I think just in this instance, because I think his quote is taken a little bit out of context. Because what they're saying is he had the opportunity to speak to Putin and say, yo, what the fuck is going on? All the intelligence people were saying the GRU is behind all this massive sort of attempt to completely undermine the election, whether that was through hacking the DNC and disseminating that information or trying to get into system secretary of state's sort of voting systems and things like that, that that was an opportunity as the leader of the country to say, yo, what's good about that? And it didn't happen. So like that, I think in this, I don't know if this guy generally views, I mean, it could be just for the sake of preserving,

you know, America's appearance of like, well, let's not talk about that because Russia is the real enemy because it serves us to distract people from that too. But I think the more, I think the thing was coming off of what he was talking about was the idea of like, you know, you're the president. You don't even have anything to say to this guy.

Like, and that's what's just sort of eerie is that you're, you know, as the leader, you're just president. You don't even have anything to say to this guy. And that's what's just sort of eerie, is that you're, you know, as the leader, you're just letting all this shit happen, and you're just kind of like, mm-hmm. What do you think he did say to Putin? They had a two-hour meeting. It was, I don't know. So is Natasha and Boris coming?

I want to meet the moose. I want to meet the moose. I love mooses. I have a fabulous moose at Mar-a-Lago. It's a chocolate moose. It's great. Natasha Badenoff. I don't know.

Natasha, take your bra off, if you know what I mean. It's just locker room talk. It could be like them, Putin being like, yo, now we know how to fuck with those voter systems or whatever. I mean, are you sure? He's like, do you know how to do cocaine on jet ski? Like, I feel like that's what he would say. Or it's like, he's like, I want to talk about Syria.

And then Trump's like, look, I don't care. I don't care. Show me that. Show my friend your watch. Syria, hereia, thereia, who cares? That's an $80,000 watch. Have you seen that? I mean, Putin does his research on people,

like to the extent- Well, he's a KGB spy. He knows what your upbringing was, what your psychological like weaknesses and strengths are going into a meeting. So like I'm sure I'm sure nothing caught him off guard. Like if if Trump wanted to talk about watches, I'm sure he knew that before Trump knew that. I don't know. Or they or Trump or Putin had set the agenda and Trump was just there to go. Uh huh. Uh huh. Or Trump was just like I could only imagine like like imagine like you know we've set up Putin to be this like mastermind even though he's also going through dementia like Trump is like there's like it's kind of proven that like

both of their brains are dying um and like but I'd love to imagine like the hypothetical mastermind who's like practiced everything on Trump and and then he's like okay I know he's going to talk like this I know he's going to say this I know he's going to talk like this. I know he's going to say this. I know he's going to say this. And then all he talks about is like Tracy Bingham from Baywatch. He's like, so ever since I've been in Russia, I've noticed there's a lot of sevens here. There's more sixes in D.C.

Let me tell you, there's only sevens and eights here. I haven't seen a single 10. That's like what he would fucking say. All right. Tracy Bingham. I think she might be colored, but she's hot, you know? Her nose doesn't look like a black nose to me. Yeah, that's what I know.

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I've never heard somebody celebrate someone's chemical castration like this. You gotta watch Game of Thrones more. Oh, yeah, well. Did somebody get castrated in there? So, yeah. Oh, yeah, a little. What show? Game of Thrones.

That show's lousy with castration. Lousy with castration. It's not done chemically, I don't think. Nah, they lacked the technology. This is a horrifying conspiracy theory that we wrote about in an article by Christy Harrison and Adam Todd Brown on Cracked back in 2011, but it made too much sense. I don't know. I felt like it was probably true at the time, and now we're getting confirmation from his doctor.

The idea is basically that when Michael Jackson, as a 12-year-old, started showing signs of puberty, he started getting acne, and his voice started changing. We didn't know at the time who was making this happen, but apparently his dad encouraged him to take this thing called ciproterone that is basically an anti-male hormone. It knocks the man right out of you, as was written in the article. Wait, what? A doctor said that? No, no. That's from the article. It basically blocks puberty.

So you just never go through puberty. You just never go through puberty. And it makes sense given that it affects your bone growth and that looking at what Michael Jackson ended up looking like and also just the fact that this isn't invented by this conspiracy theory. This is a thing that they did throughout history to men who sang soprano. What? Until 1870, this was a common practice. The people were called castrati,

and they were just literally castrated in order to maintain their singing voices. Damn. Yeah. Anyway, so the theory was, based off the article it cracked, is that the theory was he was being chemically castrated. Yes.

Interesting. And was that based off of just like, how's is that the theory was he was being chemically castrated. Yes. Interesting. And was that based off of just like, how's this man's voice like this forever? Or there was like a moment that they saw- I think there was a doctor who had put the theory forward based on appearance and based on all the problems he was having. And Christie, I think, dug that up in a book about Michael Jackson. And it just seems like, I don't know, it made too much sense.

And also, mentally, if you never go through puberty... You want to hang out with a bunch of kids? Right. It would stand to reason that you would turn your house into an amusement park and just still be interested in things. And even on top of that, never got to experience a childhood even when you were, even before puberty. God, imagine that.

What a horrible prison to be a child forever but never experience childhood right that sounds like the worst thing you could do to somebody who was this who the michael jackson's doctor so michael jackson's doctor vladimir putin who is currently serving time for uh manslaughter because he was the guy who gave him the drugs uh but he was in the position to give him the drugs because he was like his most trusted medical advocate. And basically his entire job was being Michael Jackson's doctor and he traveled with him and gave him the drugs that ended up killing him.

He said that among the people I think were asking him about it, it's coming out now, I think, because Joe Jackson passed away. The reference, he was like, yeah, the abuse that Michael underwent when he was a kid is just terrible. And he was like, I mean, and the chemical castration thing is just incredible. Oh, so Michael confided in him or something. Yeah.

Yeah. It seems like that's what he's saying. And also just as his doctor, I guess you would know that sort of thing. Right. I know my doctor asks me that every time I go in. Have you been chemically castrated? Yeah.

Check. No. Not yet. There's a not yet box that I like to push. Hey, speaking of people confiding in other people uh sasha baron cohen killer pivot uh sasha baron cohen's latest show premiered yesterday and it was okay um really just okay i started watching well i saw the first 15 minutes and i was like it wasn't that great like there was the character that i think that sarahin was like, he looks like he's showing himself to be a vet.

It's like, dude, this guy is just a dude in a hover around who's just like got like a weird look on. I wasn't that impressed with the first bits, but apparently it's the end of the show that everyone's talking about now, which I still haven't gotten to. But from what I've seen, yeah, like that. So this is the segment that is available on YouTube that you can watch. There's a 10-minute segment that is apparently the end of the show. And it's Sacha Baron Cohen as this Israeli former Mossad agent who- That's pretty great. His gait is probably the funniest thing on the show. The way he walks, like he walks like he's trying to fill up the space of like five people.

Like his arms are out to the side. So great. He's a really good physical comedian. I think that's like really underrated. Yes. His ability overrated is his ability to have a good ideology and politics. Right. Because he just kind of is like,

aren't people stupid? Let's go further. Yeah. Well, let stupid? Hold on, let's go further. Yeah, well, let's suss out why. So this last segment, this Israeli Mossad agent comes in and gets a bunch of gun advocates and conservative politicians to support a plan wherein little children from ages, uh, ages 12 to three, uh,

are taught how to handle firearms so that they can take out a mass shooter. And he, he like draws the very specific distinction. He's like, obviously two year olds, we're not going to give guns because, you know, they call it the terrible twos for a reason.

Yeah. Yeah. Of course. He's like, but three-year-olds, and we're not talking about all three-year-olds. You find a couple of very talented three-year-olds in each class and teach them how to handle weapons. And then they go through this training video

where all the guns have little stuffed animals on them that make them fun for the kids to play with. Guns for tots. My little pistol. There you go. And then he goes around pitching this program. He makes the video with the gun rights advocate and the stuffed animals and stuff. And then he goes around pitching that video to various conservative politicians.

And the first guy he talks to is like, well, you know, obviously we don't just get on board and say on camera that we're for a bill without doing a bunch of reading and research on it. And then they immediately cut to like five other very famous conservative politicians being like, this is a great plan. This is the kindergartians. Yeah. Kindergartians is what it's called. Great, great branding. Also the presentation of saying ages 12 to three is so subtle that you're like, oh, 12. Yeah, yeah, is saying ages 12 to 3. It's so subtle that your friend's like, oh, 12? Yeah, yeah, that works. Wait, to 3?

Oh, you're going down. Yes, that's really funny. But they're very aware of it, and the talking points that everybody is parroting are, you know, they make it very clear. They're talking about 3-year-olds. They're talking about kids in preschool and pre-preschool. And the craziest thing to me is that this suggests that literally nobody caught on to the fact that he was doing a show because he interviewed dozens and dozens of people.

I mean, we don't have the full list yet, but it's a lot of different people. And he has on so many prosthetics. He looks like a Dick Tracy villain. And he is if one of them had caught on and been like yo this is sasha barrett cohen they would have told another one word would have gotten out and nobody but you know what i feel like the sort of psychological profile a lot of these people has never admit that you've been had so they might have even known they're like yo that fucking was weird but i can't tell anybody because i'm not gonna take an l in front of these other people.

Right. And just be like, we're just going to fuck up. I think it's one of those things, too, because his genius in these interviews is buttering these people up because he knows their egos. Once you stroke them, they will do whatever. And I think that's how you get Dick Cheney to sign a waterboard kit because you come at him like that was your greatest contribution in the world probably. And he's like, oh, OK, I fuck with this guy. Yeah. And he's like, oh, I've never signed a waterboard before.

But at the same time, man, when you hear his accents, he still needs to work on that southern accent. Because that sounds like me doing an Australian accent. No. Yeah, it's like, I'm Billy Wayne Davis, and I'm... It's like, I thought someone was fucking with the tape. By the way, shout out to Billy Wayne Davis, who is a great comedian. Yeah, not Billy Wayne, but his name was Billy Wayne something. Right. Which, honestly, I think... But straight up shouts to Billy Wayne Davis. Oh, yeah. Zyke Gangrate. And his accent, Billy Wayne Davis is Australian

or Southern? I can never tell with those two. Anyways, the right is still very shook over the Sacha Baron Cohen show. Drudge has collected different reviews that say it's a boring con job. has collected different reviews that say it's a boring con job. There's this one part where he talks about how it's not rape if it's your wife. And this guy who he's interviewing laughs. But the point is that the guy laughs along and is like, ah. Right, right. No, yeah. And they have, quote, jokes about women being raped.

And Sacha Baron Cohen criticized for stolen valor on hijacked billboard because they keep claiming that he is pretending to be a wounded veteran that's so funny that like in their minds stolen valor is like lock them up yes throw them in jail not actual decent veteran care right yeah yeah when they you know keep them on hold for hours when they're looking exactly it's interesting because it don't find usually be conservatives who do the whole veteran care. Right. Yeah. Yeah. When they, you know, keep them on hold for hours when they're looking. Exactly. It's interesting because it don't find them usually be conservatives who do the whole stolen. Have you fallen through a stolen valor YouTube poll?

Oh, I have. No, it's incredible. So there's these dudes that will like, so like, you know, if you're a,

a troop, uh, you get like, uh, 10% off coffee instead of like, you know, medicine, uh,

because we live in a horrible capitalist hellscape um so like there's like these discounts at places it's like show your your troop badge or whatever like show your id your military id card um and so there are guys like really sad guys one of them has my last name one of them is named androsky and forever when like when i was younger and i would google my own last name just to be like where are the other other ones? You're like, shameful thief. This dude would pop up, and there were just all these videos of people accosting him at a Subway sandwich shop going like,

Sir, who was your commanding officer, sir? And it's the funniest fucking thing in the world, but it's the perfect crime to commit against a conservative is purposeful stolen valor in order to make them look bad. Right.

It's incredible. Great choice. Yeah. There is a billboard in Los Angeles that accuses them of stolen valor. So they know their target audience. Those videos, they get, man, like when those people get pressed, because a lot of times these guys don't know how to properly do like the formal dress for whatever branch they're in.

So other veterans see them real quick. They're like, yo, yo, why is that chevron like this blah blah blah and the one that always gets these guys hooked up is when they all go what's your mos which is like your military occupation code like you know your mos code is like what you did in the army or the military and that's when those guys stolen valor guys go uh it's like bro you know if you're really gonna do this just figure out an mos to shout out and then yeah run the fuck off exactly just google it and then get your fucking 10 off quiznos bitch so many times it's people at graduations too really like yeah like i've seen a few where it's people at graduations in their formal military dress and they're just there to like support a niece or something and they're not you know and

then like people are like hold up hold on a second but the most absurd case of stolen valor is police chief David Clark, who wears like these little, they're basically airline pins, but he wears them like their military insignia. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Sheriff Clark. Yeah. I just can't look past his top of his head before I get thoroughly disgusted. I mean, he's the one that famously let people die of thirst in his prisons in Milwaukee.

Right. But yeah, he looks like if The Simpsons was doing a character of like a corrupt dictator. Like that's what his fucking jacket looks like. Right. That'd be like a fucking spoon he's hanging off his chest. Yeah, exactly. This is Operation Spoon them all. Yeah, I use this spoon to spoon out Osama bin Laden's brain from his skull.

This Operation Knife Racky Freedom. Josh, it's been a pleasure having you, man. Thank you. I know you have other media hits you probably have to get to right now. In demand. Where can people find you and follow you? You can find me on Twitter at ShutUpAndrosky. And that's my name is Josh Androsky.

Also, hey, you know, if you're listening to this and you want to do something to help the country, join your local Antifa group, join your local socialist group, join the DSA, join any community organization. I also want to make a quick shout out right now. If you do live in Los Angeles, I'm doing organizing with Public Bank LA. We got public banking on the ballot in Los Angeles. So follow that, like search for Public Bank LA, go to publicbankla.org and check us out on Twitter. Essentially, as I've spoken about on an episode before, we would save Los Angeles billions of dollars a year and put it towards

ending the homelessness crisis and going fully green. I think we talked about this last time you were here. Was that 420? I think it was 420. And now since then, we've worked and the city council has voted unanimously to put it on the ballot. There's a long road ahead. But if we vote yes on this, that will begin the journey to shift finance out of the control because right

now finance is being controlled by a bunch of dead-eyed wall street bros who like use any of their free time spent not working to like dm thoughts on instagram like do you like bone broth you know what i mean like these are the dudes that are in charge of fucking finance and it should be us that are in charge of finance uh and is there a tweet that you've been enjoying on twitter that's something new that we've started doing. Oh, okay. So in the fucking thread of like the proud boys shit,

like on my page, um, this guy, Andreas Tolf, I think is his name telling you about this one, right? So, um,

the proud boys came in and the proud boys were like, Oh, you want to fucking come step to us? And here's our clubhouse and they give the address of like the cop station or whatever is that what that was yeah it was fucking bullshit but then andreas is like oh okay cool so when should i get there when does your mom drop off the brownies for you guys and the proud boys go when she's done sucking us off and andreas is like your mom sucks you off and they're probably like oh we thought we were talking about your mom.

Yeah. It was amazing. His response is, so your mom sucks all you guys off? And then, what is it? Like, we're a fraternity. Oh, yeah. We don't have a mom. Yeah, he goes, we don't have a mom.

We were talking about your mom. We're a fraternity. It was so great. Oh, boy. Yeah. Check that out in the frame. You've been owned, Andreas. out and Andreas self-owned self-ownage Miles how about you actually that would have been my tweet too because I was telling you about it this morning but uh no it's all good uh that also keeps me from having to think of one right now um you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at

miles of gray and yeah that would have been my tweet but I already said that so God bless you uh you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien a tweet I've been enjoying, there's been all these tweets of pictures of young, hot Harrison Ford with people saying funny things about them and Tracy

Clayton at Brokey McPoverty tweeted tweeted this picture of him in a kitchen with like a frying pan and she wrote Harrison how would you like your eggs? Me. Fertilized. Which I thought was well done. That's well done. And

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You know, I was thinking of the band. The band. The band. The band. The band. Hell yeah. Love the band. The band.

The band. The band. You know, Rick Danko on bass, who has a great bass tutorial video on YouTube, by the way, where he's smacked out of his mind. I don't know where he is. Hey, Chester, can you tell me? But this is King Harvest by the band. Oh, yeah.

And, you know, we just get this old broover in you on Monday. I'm like, let's just ease into this week because it's been, it's going to be a hot week. Yep, it's been. All right. Yeah, that's good. Well, we're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you then.

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