The Daily Zeitgeist - Anti-5G Merch Gift Guide, Amazon’s Bad Charity 12.21.21

Episode Date: December 21, 2021

In episode 1054, Jack and guest co-host Joelle Monique are joined by writer, comedian, and podcaster Caitlin Durante to discuss An Omicron Check In, Even Before Funneling Money to Anti-Vaxxers, Amazon...’s Charity Was Garbage, The Anti-5G Merchandise Trend is Terrible and Possibly Radioactive and more! Omicron Check In Omicron is now the dominant strain of coronavirus in the US, according to the CDC Health officials say omicron variant likely to cause record-high coronavirus cases, hospitalizations in U.S. Even Before Funneling Money to Anti-Vaxxers, Amazon’s Charity Was Garbage Amazon has donated $215M through its charity program Amazon Is Helping to Fund a Militia That Stormed the Capitol Dozens of anti-LGBT groups fundraising on Amazon despite equality pledges Revealed: AmazonSmile helps fund anti-vaccine groups The Anti-5G Merchandise Trend is Terrible and Possibly Radioactive How the 5G coronavirus conspiracy theory went from fringe to mainstream The 5G Health Hazard That Isn’t Follow Caitlin Durante: @caitlinduranteListen: The Bechdel CastLISTEN: Stonefruit by Armand Hammer & The Alchemist Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:19 This is actually the second time we've done the intro. I couldn't come up with a national or international day because Miles isn't here, but that's a big one. I feel like even years ago, we'd be doing something for that holiday. But anyways, happy winter solstice to everyone. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a Cranberry and your proteins grow Your proteins grow Let's just end it there Shout out to Chauncey Yonders I don't know I don't know if I can have fun
Starting point is 00:02:59 Doing Omicron AKA's anymore You're not ready for round three Jack? Come on Now we know what we're doing We're like in third grade of the pandemic pronged AKs anymore. You're not ready for round three, Jack? Come on! Now we know what we're doing. We're like in third grade of the pandemic. We know what we're doing. We know what supplies we need. I've already got my pod.
Starting point is 00:03:13 It's pre-approved, ready to go. It's like habit forming now. I know exactly how to shrink my life. I know where the abundance is going to be. I'm going to enjoy nature again. That's what happens every time we go back in.'m like damn i love trees i gotta get back out i appreciate that uh third lockdown pep talk from today's special guest co-host we're thrilled blessed fortunate to be joined by a producer here in iHeart's LA podcast studio helping to create shows like fake
Starting point is 00:03:43 doctors real friends she's a podcast host you've heard on Pop Culture Happy Hour, a fabulous writer. You can read at Vulture, The A.V. Club, Teen Vogue, Pace, The Advocate, many more. She is the brilliant and talented Joelle Monique. Hey, hey, hey. That's the longest night of the year, Vampires. I'm really excited for us. I love nighttime. I get much more done when people don't expect anything from me.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Don't look at me and I'll be productive is my getting through life. Yeah. We're here. We're doing it. I'm sorry to seasonal depressed people. It was a hard time for you guys. It's hard. I feel like I have like podcast season old depression where I just like this year, this
Starting point is 00:04:24 time of year, every year, I just like this year this time of year every year I'm like limping through the finish line I'm just like that Q4 depression and the like long stretch to vacation
Starting point is 00:04:31 where you're like it's coming a break is coming naps galore we like do the extra episodes for the year end stuff and it's just you know
Starting point is 00:04:38 all the ad people come out of the woodwork it's just oh my god in just a flat panic just like ah we got it anyways happy winter solstice longest night of the year like this is the uh the holiday of indoor people i like to think of it as like this is when we just like bring a tree indoors we watch movies indoors. We just hang out with loved ones indoors.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Fewer loved ones than usual, maybe, this year. But anyways, Joelle, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very talented and hilarious writer, stand-up comedian, podcast host of the Bechdelcast, which takes down the patriarchy one movie at a time. She also happens to have a master's degree in film, no big deal. And also the most anagrammable name in the English language. So depending on whether you've been given her name in an assortment of Scrabble tiles, you might know her as Nine Tit Dracula or Latin Dancer UTI, but in our hearts, she will always be Caitlin Durante.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Wow. What an intro. What a setup for me to share a new anagram of my name, except I don't have a new one. Yo, the work has been done. We've been given the greatest anagrams of all time. Thank you. For your name. No need. You are officially the most anagrammable. Thanks. The legacy has been set. It's been established. Yeah. And now I can just coast. Absolutely. And, Kaylin, what is your favorite? Just to kind of, what's your favorite anagram of your name?
Starting point is 00:06:28 I really like Lauren D. Titanic. Yeah. Yeah, of course. Of course. Of course. Speaking of, I did buy the Lego Titanic thing. I saw! Did you build it?
Starting point is 00:06:44 I built it. How was it was great it i thought it was going to take me like months and months and i would just be like working tirelessly at it but turns out when you're not a child anymore and you're an adult who knows how to read instructions the lego tells you exactly what to do yeah like build a thing so i just followed the instructions and very i would say i i invested a solid like 15 hours into building it oh my gosh i built it without a hitch uh but when i was a kid and was trying to build legos uh or lego whatever that is that is the thing right it. That is a thing, right? It's very much a thing and they don't like it.
Starting point is 00:07:28 They don't like it. They're like the plural of Lego is Lego. Like, please never use an S. Lots of angry messages about that in the past. So sorry. Is there another word that's common in the English language that is a O? Like fish? No.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Yeah, I got fish and deer and stuff, but that ends in O. I feel like that's... Eggo. No such thing as eggos. It's just Eggo waffle. But again, it's a brand name that I will damn well put an S at the end of
Starting point is 00:08:00 if I please. I would understand if it was like a thing but i just i don't know legs oh maybe maybe it's not an us thing maybe it's because lego is not from they're not an american company right right they're swedish yeah i'm probably like just espousing like this is like me my my own version of being like, I call them freedom fries. I'm sorry. Denmark. Denmark.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Right, right. Okay. Sorry. Anyways. Yeah. I, too, have found, Caitlin, that I reached appropriate age for, like, you know, building somewhat like complex Legos at, as like by the directions provided by Lego, like in my late 30s, early 40s, like once my kids started having them. And prior to that, it was just buying a Lego set for me was just a way to contribute to a bunch of small things on the ground in my bedroom when I was younger.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Same. Same, yeah. You can build a typewriter out of Lego. That is crazy. Like a working typewriter? It looks so cool. I don't know if it works. It looks like it should be able to work.
Starting point is 00:09:20 It's so interesting. Hold on, I'm dropping the chat. I'm sorry. I totally side-railed. But, like, oh, my God, it looks so cool. Oh, man. Tom Hanks is somewhere just fully aroused right now, I'm dropping the chat. I'm sorry. I totally side-railed. But like, oh my God, it looks so cool. Oh man, Tom Hanks is somewhere just fully aroused right now. Foaming at the mouth. I also want to say, as somebody who has come to this point in my life with kids who have
Starting point is 00:09:40 no respect for the work that I'm trying to do with the Lego that I bought for them. I want to say that the perspective of Will Ferrell's character in the Lego movie is underrated. Like, make the drama from the dad's perspective. Yeah. Kids just leaving their Legos everywhere. They don't understand the function of this town that I built. This is my happy place. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:10:06 He works 80 hours a week. He's so mad when he comes home and the Legos are in the wrong place. You get it, Joelle. I do. That's why I don't have children. This is the number one reason. Fully unsupportable. Wait, that doesn't look like it's made out of Lego at all.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I know. That's why it's so cool. That's the beautiful thing about Lego. Should we get it? I'll buy it. lego should we get it i'll buy it fine should we get it okay let's do it wow a mere 200 yeah so let's say i got this and then like was building it painstakingly and my kids come through and want to play with it come on horrible the worst anyways i i did you you also took a time-lapse video of the building of the Titanic and posted it on Instagram, I think I saw. I did a few of those, yes.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Yeah. That was very impressive. And the world thanks you for putting in that work so we can see how it all comes together. An incredible engineer, as it turns out. I built it all by together an incredible engineer as it turns out i built it all by myself yeah and now i have nowhere to put it because it's huge it's right over it's like four and a half feet long i don't know where to keep it i have nowhere in my apartment to you have to buy a special bookshelf i truly i do for this but uh it's there and it's it's staying that it's I'm not gonna take it apart yeah is it seaworthy is it something that you could just like take to take to see
Starting point is 00:11:33 could a baby sail it unless there are any lego icebergs around right yeah might be all right might make it might make it all right Caitlin we're it. Might make it. All right, Caitlin, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about Omicron, just where we're at. There was a weird weekend last weekend. And it seems like people are not just me getting exhausted with AKA song parodies about a disease that's killing a lot of people, but also people who make decisions are getting tired of following doctor's orders. Just want to take a quick snapshot of where we're at, because I both think it's very unhealthy and scary, and also I get it. I feel like I understand where people are feeling exhausted by the whole thing. In some cases, some people I find very infuriating, like a CNN anchor who was like, so what? Like, we're not closing back down, basically, which was easy for him to say.
Starting point is 00:12:38 We'll find out. uh we're gonna talk about amazon's charity which you know everything bezos touches is like all right this this probably has good intentions but uh you're gonna be shocked by what you learn in this story uh we're gonna talk about the hottest new gift trend anti-5g merch uh writer jm mcnabb contributed a story just kind of tracking that trend. All of that. Plenty more. But first, we do like to ask our guest, Caitlin, what is something from your search history? I searched movies set in San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:13:24 because if all goes according to plan, Jamie Loftus and I are doing a live show in San Francisco in January, except, you know, things might be canceled, which, you know, as much as I would love to do live shows again, it's probably not the best time for that so depending on how things pan out with covid variants we may or may not be doing a show but if we are it's in san francisco for sf sketch fest on january 19th and i was like oh we should cover a movie based in the city that we're performing at. So I had to do a little quick goog to see what movies would be appropriate.
Starting point is 00:14:13 And here's what I, here were my top three picks of ones we haven't already done. Because we've done a few. For example, Princess Diaries. It takes place in San Francisco. Mrs. Doubtfire famously takes place there. That is one that you have done? Yes. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:14:33 We've also done The Wedding Planner, a movie that famously takes place in San Francisco. What we haven't done is Zodiac. Oh. What we haven't done is Zodiac. We have not done the movie Jobs, nor the movie Steve Jobs. I think those are two different movies, if I'm remembering correctly. One has Ashton Kutcher, and one has Michael Fassbender. Superior one. Yeah, right. And then, of course,orge of the jungle takes place in
Starting point is 00:15:06 san francisco according to the google search that i did in the listicle that i found and that would be my top pick george george of the jungle yeah yeah i was thinking because you're you know a film scholar uh who has a master's i was like yeah you know vertigo came to mind, but then I was like, no, she's going to go Georgia the Jungle, I bet. She has a little bit of a deeper knowledge than I do. Yeah, I'm a scholar. I'm a master. I have this impressive advanced degree. Yes. Yes, Georgia the Jungle it is. Georgia the Jungle is such a great nostalgia feel.
Starting point is 00:15:47 But did you say Zodiac or Vertigo is here? Both, I believe. Both, both, both. Okay. Then, listen, far be it for me, I only have Bachelors in film. So, you know, it's not as impressive. But I would love to hear the conspiracy theories. I hear there's like so many wild stories from the film set of Zodiac that are fun to explore.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I feel like and that talent, like all of the hopefully your fans would be really into just the murder mystery, weird film actor-ness of all of it. But then there's George Jungle and you get to look at a body in its prime. I mean, Brendan Fraser, national treasure, national icon, etc. Like, a good human and a great body? It's a win.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Yeah. Yeah. Can't be beat. Can't argue with that. So the jungle in question and George of the Jungle, which I have not seen. What, Jack? Come on. You've never seen George of the Jungle? Mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I haven't. Wow. Really missing out. Am I proud of that? No. No, I'm proud of that. Your children will love it. It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:16:59 I need anything. You guys, I'm at a point where they only want to watch cars 2 uh-oh not just cars cars 2 the worst of the cars but it's the worst widely believed to be did you not show them paddington 2 and why are they not i did begging to watch that over and over again because it's not hard i ask myself this every day. And it makes it demoralizing when they have a temper tantrum because I'm putting up with this shit from somebody who wants to watch Cars 2 when we get home. It's just a real kick in the gut. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Yeah. But the Cars franchise has always been very popular with the kids under six. If they're boys under seven, that's it. There's no greater franchise for them than Cars. I used to babysit a kid back when there were only two Cars movies. And it was just every, like, once a week, every single week single week it was cars the entire time we were together that's all he wanted to watch it was truly if i was like listen aladdin is so good it got nominated for stuff okay people really like it's got a banging soundtrack nothing nothing i have to go through the whole so like the way it's set up on disney plus is that like you go to the pixar
Starting point is 00:18:26 section and then you go through all the movies that they're expecting you to be looking for based on like popularity quality and cars to like it sometimes changes order i think just based on like searching and you know how pixar is feeling about themselves on that day. Cars 2 has never not been the very last. The bottom. I have to go through every single one of the Pixar movies. They like WALL-E, but it's like, yeah, but WALL-E is like vegetables. Let's do some Cars 2,
Starting point is 00:18:59 which has machine guns in it for some reason. It's like, come on. Anyways, they're not allowed to watch cars 2 anymore but it's it's not a good it's not a good time uh right now yeah gee whiz is right outrank planes i we've never watched planes i'm not gonna do it to them to myself don't do it to yourself because it's somehow worse than cars 2 yeah it's the hottest of hot messes i mean they gave they gave up on that shit like after the second one i think which is amazing caitlin what is something you think is overrated okay so i'm glad you had said something of a movie
Starting point is 00:19:40 starring will ferrell that is underrated because we brought up the Lego movie something that I think is overrated is the movie Elf wow there I said it I know I'm the only person I believe who has this take but I absolutely hate the movie Elf elf wow and i'm gobsmacked silence from okay we let's let's get into it what is it what what is there what specifically is overrated about it what are people too hyped about around it okay i don't i just find the elf character and i know you have to suspend your disbelief for things. I find him unbelievable. Suspend the disbelief. It's more like, oh gosh. I just find his, like, the overwhelming, what's the word?
Starting point is 00:20:40 Enthusiasm? Yeah, enthusiasm and just like joy and just whatever every all of that just irritating he's too naive and some people might be like well caitlin isn't the character of paddington the exact same no way and thank you no uh also padding is a bear and Elf is an adult man. So I just, I cannot get behind. I just, oh. And then on top of that, I just don't think it's funny or good. And I, but to be fair, I'm also a big Grinch when it comes to Christmas content.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Yeah. We had our Christmas party, kind of Christmasmas lunch we'll call it it was fun though we we saw each other in person yeah and we we had miles's pick for a holiday movie which was complicated by the fact that miles didn't come miles couldn't make it. And so I think he gave us like the worst one. It was Christmas Rush about a radio DJ who's, I don't know, nobody was really paying attention. And you came through. It was the grayest Christmas movie I've ever seen. I see Christmas movies in black and white. It's a problem.
Starting point is 00:21:59 It was so dour. I was like, this is not bringing the... I'm from the Midwest. I feel like elf is a physical manifestation of Midwestern Christmas spirit. It's like, oh, it's snowing again. Like, I can't even contain it. Like, cookies? How?
Starting point is 00:22:18 And where did they come from? And it's just, oh, my God, family. There's just so much love in the room. It's beautiful. And it's like an unabashed, just like you could just be at your most jovial and frivolous. I love that Christmas is frivolous.
Starting point is 00:22:32 I really love that people are just like, whatever, we are together. That is the maximum amount of effort that needs to be put in. Didn't bring gift. Doesn't matter. That's selfish. Can't be looking for gifts.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Just like, I love Elf. I love this movie so much it's so corny and cheesy and just like silly oh it's the best caitlin what are we doing i have a i have a lump of coal where my heart should be also to shout out winter solstice again that's the holiday that i celebrate and have celebrated since I was a teenager, not to be a huge edgelord over here. But when I was a teen, I was raised as an atheist, more or less. But we still observed Christmas traditions in my household. It's not a Christian holiday.
Starting point is 00:23:19 But at one point, my mom was like, you know what? Fuck it. We're not even celebrating Christmas anymore. We're going to celebrate winter solstice. Hell yeah. Very Wiccan of her. And I love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Well, especially because most Christmas traditions in the sense of like putting up a tree and having a feast and exchanging gifts is a very, that is just appropriated from the pagan celebrations of winter solstice. Again, not to be all edgelord about things but my mom was like you know what we're gonna celebrate four days earlier we're gonna have a cool we're gonna have a nice time and fuck christmas and i was like great sounds good to me so i've been celebrating winter winter solstice ever since yeah that's beautiful they Yeah, they also used to do like a changing of like where people would like laborers would get to be the boss for a day and would like get treated like that was like many different holidays throughout history. But the the leftover version of that is like rich people pretend to be generous around around Christmas. That's like what we've got. Is this foreshadowing the Amazon charity story? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. All right. Let's take a quick break and then we'll come back and hear
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Starting point is 00:28:57 and we're back and caitlin you've already just shit into our holiday hearts with your overrated take that elf is overrated but why don't you why don't you tell us what what you think is underrated well to continue talking about movies i think a under an underrated movie also set at christmas time is the movie tangerine it is set on christmas day it's a fun romp and i i really enjoy it check out. If you haven't seen Tangerine. Definitely watch Tangerine. Yeah. It's a classic. All right. Let's talk about just where, where we're at in the,
Starting point is 00:29:31 in the pandemic. There was SNL this weekend. Last weekend was weird. You know, I feel like it's impossible to have another like, and that's when I knew it was real moment anymore. Like we did with Tom Hanks in the NBA the first time around. But this was definitely like a weird moment because they didn't cancel it in time to not have a show. So it was just like the four most famous people came out and were like, hey, and then like laughing at each other's jokes in the
Starting point is 00:30:05 background but like there wasn't even enough crew to like laugh at people's jokes and tom hanks was one of the ones there to remind us of that first one tom hanks was like one of the first celebrities to get covid what are you doing here sir go home you're a national treasure the hell is happening was he one of the first to get it or like of the only ones who's admitted he got it? I feel like that also might be happening. To the public, he was one of the first ones where we were like, oh, no. We could lose Tom Hanks and that would be terrible. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:38 We have to protect him at all costs. I don't understand what's happening. Yeah. Fortunately, we didn't have to take it all in this weekend because the nba seems to be pretending it's not real at this point they're like uh yeah we'll let kairi back in because we need extra bodies because everybody else has caught in kov has caught kovid caught i feel like that's all right anymore who cares i'm good with that the nba is like the perfect example of us learning our lesson and then being like but we don't care we did the bubble and it was so perfect it was so like foolproof
Starting point is 00:31:15 like we got our games they were good they figured out how to like digitally bring in an audience advertisement didn't go anywhere it was strong and we finished the season what happened was players missed their families very that's fine you're humans you would be right i get it but for the nba as a thing to be like well it's totally fine for us to just be jumping across states and across country lines when we have a foolproof method that works that we know how to do is bananas to me i don't understand it yeah for people who aren't like big nba fans uh kyrie irving was one of the only holdouts the only people who was like i would rather not play in the nba as one of the greatest like
Starting point is 00:31:59 shot makers in the history of the game like just like pure like watching him play basketball is pure joy he was like i'd rather not do that i'd rather just not get the the vaccine and oh he's an anti-vaxxer and that's why yes yeah yeah but like not he's like no i don't subscribe it's very he's he's hard to categorize because he's not like, yeah, I subscribe to Q or anything. It's more... He's one of those personal liberties people. Yeah, personal liberties. Can't tell me what to do with my body.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Exactly. Just respect my opinion. So anyways, the Brooklyn Nets were like, okay, well, you can't play them this season. And everyone was like, yay, they did the right thing. And then over the past week, as things have started getting really bad again, the Nets were like, you know, we kind of respect how...
Starting point is 00:32:51 We still have to make money. Yeah. The cash needs to continue to flow in, so bring him back. So they brought him back, and he promptly, and you're never going to believe this, tested positive for COVID.
Starting point is 00:33:04 What? Surprise. So as did like their best. Like one of the three best players in the league. Who plays for them. Kevin Durant. But the whole NBA is going down. Kevin Durant is another one who's like not a spring chicken.
Starting point is 00:33:17 What is happening? But the entire NBA. The Bulls had to take like a full week down. Because too many of their players had COVID for them to continue. They couldn't play. There were not enough players eligible to play. And we're still just like Broadway's had to close down some shows. They were like, it's too many sick people.
Starting point is 00:33:36 I just don't know how much longer we can be like, no, it's fine. It's totally fine. My favorite, like the award for just the most head up their own ass response was the NFL. Again, you'd be surprised to hear this. The NFL like delayed a game by like two days. Like remember when we left the office and we're like, all right, so we'll all get on. I don't know, like an email, I guess guess i don't know how else we're going to talk to each other from home we'll email each other on friday and decide if we're going to come back
Starting point is 00:34:12 next week and then like cut to two years later at the holiday party and we're like walking in and seeing like our desks exactly like we left them that time that's what the nfl is still doing they're like uh yeah we're gonna going to just bump this back to Monday, by which point things should have cooled down. So anyways, but it's the NFL. Yeah. The raspberries that we left in the fridge, they'll be fine because we'll be back two days later and no big deal.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Yeah. So anyways, I am seeing this in other sort of more official places. So anyways, I am seeing this like in other sort of more official places. You know, there are big D Democrats who are now like rejecting the protective and these precautions response to everyone's general exhaustion with like the back and forth of the virus which is again the back and forth is like something they were you know they used that poetic metaphor that they really fell in love with like the hammer and the dance people really liked that but that was the idea is that like you're gonna have to like shut things down and then slowly like come out and then shut things down again when things get bad. But people are getting mad at the idea that we have to close down again. Brian Stelter,
Starting point is 00:35:38 aka the bald guy on CNN, was basically like, why should we shut down if the average vaccinated person isn't going to get that sick? He was interviewing a health expert from The Atlantic. And she was like, oh, well, you know, not everyone's vaccinated. And he like interrupted and was like, yeah, well, they screwed up. Oh, boy. He's tired. It's a pretty radical thing to say.
Starting point is 00:36:01 He needs a nap. Yeah. More people will die. So what is their fault is a very childish like way to play with lives it's yeah a lot of those people are gonna be doctors like and doctors who are like already like you know it's just like such a real like completely narrow and like hasn't experienced this up close in any way. Yeah. Like perspective where his vision of people who are vaccinated and responsible are him
Starting point is 00:36:33 and like his friends who work at the New York Times and like other like media outlets in New York. And then like the people who aren't vaccinated, he's like picturing, you know, Facebook groups. But it's like, no, this it's not neat like it doesn't cut down uh easily like that and she uh the health expert was like well yeah but there are kids who are unvaccinated there are all the he was like oh i meant adults i was only talking about adults right not to get it's like oh but like does the are you going to tell the virus that like that's all you meant because that's oh, I meant adults. I was only talking about adults. It's like, oh, but like, are you going to tell the virus that like that's all you meant? Because that's like kind of not how it works.
Starting point is 00:37:11 It's kind of the problem. It's also, you know, again, the immunocompromised, like it's just so many very innocent people who are just trying to get through life. And it's also like, if we are able to go back into quarantine we can stop the spread faster like the the idea that like oh well like it's then it's still happening
Starting point is 00:37:32 though it's still something we all have to deal with like it makes so much more sense to be like what if we just again three months three months pay the people who can't afford to work just and then we can better assess and deal with the problem afterwards and it's so strange for us as a country to just have to like voluntarily I'm starting to see people like I had I think four friends in the last like two or three days be like oh I have COVID you know thank goodness I'm vaccinated or whatever but I'm definitely like I've canceled all future like party plans no longer going out back to pods back to you know just what we understand to be as safe as possible and I just think it makes sense to
Starting point is 00:38:10 sort of lean into that theory as opposed to I want to go back to the way things used to be I have no desire to go back to the way things used to be and we have to wrap our heads around the fact that like things have to change going forward we can't't go backwards. Especially like, wouldn't it be easier this time around that we like we got accustomed to a lockdown? And like, sure, it wasn't ideal. Like no one wants to live this way. But what's the alternative? Maybe dying like that doesn't sound great either. But yeah, it's fascinating to me people's reluctance to just like play it safe and play it smart for a shorter amount of time versus just elongating this whole like again, like the going back like, oh, things are slightly better. So we can open up.
Starting point is 00:39:01 But opening up made things worse again. So now we have to lock back down. are slightly better so we can open up but opening up made things worse again so now we have to lock back down and it's like we wouldn't have to like teeter-totter in this way if we just like could commit to the to the i'm such a homebody already and so you know in the interest of like extending grace to everyone i completely understand some people are like this is untenable if i have to be inside my own dwelling for another like week i will just explode from this being inside this like some people are just really want to be out in the world and that's like their happy state is just being out whether that's you know in nature or city or wherever
Starting point is 00:39:34 so i have some grace for being like i'm done with this i want it to be over and especially if you're a person who's done quote unquote everything the right way that is like how I can't do anything more than what I've done to like get back out there. But I also think like we're all going through it together. And if you can, if you're one of those people, if you can just be like if we just try as many of us to do it the right way together, then hopefully things will end sooner. I know it's frustrating seeing people like just not care and not have to suffer consequences. It's a small group of people, but they're out there and that's frustrating. But, you know, we're all we're all going through it together conceivably. So we just push a little bit harder.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Yeah. The thing I've run out of patience with is these dang doctors telling me to wear masks. No, the people the people who are anti-mask at this point. That really seems to be the thing that we've gotten the most casual with. People just, I don't know, they show up to a thing with a mask and then take it off. And it's just like, that's not how it works. That's not the thing. The masks, you're supposed to keep the masks on.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Yeah. Just do it. Yeah. All right. Well, let's talk about the man who was going to save us from all of this. That is Jeffy Bezis. Jeffy Bezos. You might have seen these.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I know I have. It's like Amazon Smile, which allows people to donate to charity without the added hassle of donating to charity. This is a scam and scams are usually illegal. No, no, no, something out of the goodness of their warm corporate heart. So they will donate 0.5% of the purchase price of something that you buy to a charity of your choice. And almost a million charitable organizations have partnered with Amazon Smile, which you may recognize as way too many charitable organizations to vet. So as of 2020, it was reported that Amazon Smile had raised more than $215 million for charity since it began.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Seems low. It does. Right? It seems low. That sounds great for a community bake sale, but anything involving Amazon, that is a third of what Amazon makes every day. I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:42:10 That is what they've pulled together since 2013. So seven freaking years. Yeah. And they're also making headlines this week or in the past couple of weeks for reportedly donating $40,000 to anti-vaxxer groups. So, and remember, the consumer doesn't, like, donate anything. Amazon, like, the money just goes into a fund that Amazon then chooses, like, who it goes to. And they were like, ah, we got it, anti-vaxxer groups. What?
Starting point is 00:42:42 That is, okay. Sorry. anti-vaxxer groups what that is okay sorry just to compare what that 215 million is that's like an a marvel movie and a half yeah that in seven years yeah i amazon we have to we have to talk about a lot of things sweetie i don't understand where is the money this is what people need to just go to jeff like where's this money what are you doing with it because it's not going to your workers it's uh not going to improve your factories i mean you have whole factories without an air conditioning unit you sell those on your site what's the problem jeff we gotta square up with jeff we gotta start calling him out everybody has to be uncomfortable wherever he goes just really excuse me sir it's not cool
Starting point is 00:43:22 it's not cool for you to buy up a block of real estate and make a mega mansion in a community it's weird it's not a mansion community it's just a regular city block in boston you shouldn't be here you have so much yes he took two mansions and made it one super mansion um because he's jeff he'll be in the house probably two weeks out of the year. What is going on? I hate Jeff Bezos. Like a passion. What are you doing? So you might have seen these like little, it's like three pictures side by side.
Starting point is 00:43:55 It looks like it's, you know, more articles you may enjoy. Like underneath a New York Times article you're reading. It's actually like an ad for Amazon Smile. The pictures usually make it look like Amazon Smile is helping kids, animals, and kids holding animals, as far as I can tell. It's like a cute puppy, kids in a classroom, and then a child holding a baby goat.
Starting point is 00:44:23 It's adorable. Yeah, just garbage organizations on their uh capital storming uh white supremacist group the oath keepers not the oath keepers you get some money more than 40 organizations listed on the amazon small platform publicly oppose lgbtq rights and equality including including the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, which is run by his son, who's called Islam Evil, and claimed that Satan is the architect of same-sex marriage. So they're, you know.
Starting point is 00:44:59 And then on top of all this, like, people have done the research and found that when people, know see check off the box like okay i am gonna make this amazon purchase through amazon smile like there is something gets lit up in their brain and it makes them feel good which sure like everybody needs to feel good about something right now but like it's first of all, going to these horrifying organizations, and it's so little is going to these horrifying organizations. It's not you funding it, it's Amazon funding it. So they get the write off. And also, it's making people less likely to give to other organizations, like other charitable organizations.
Starting point is 00:45:45 other organizations like other charitable organizations according to like i donated 0.5 percent of my 40 amazon purchase so i've i've done my due diligence this holiday season to be charitable yeah it's like yeah but it does like that's just how the human brain works. And they're taking advantage of it. By the way, they also came out that in 2017, one of the nonprofits participating in Amazon Smile was Project Veritas. Flip a table. So they were just, like, one of the great. They do not care. I wonder what the criteria, like, how do you become a part of Amazon Smile? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Is it one of those things where it's like, you could just register here, become a part, and we'll donate 0.5% of people's purchases? Or is it curated? It seems like it should be curated, right? Well, someone, again, because we know how large corporations work, we know that it's so much easier for them to just be like, just put it on a list and go. Someone to actually sit here and verify this stuff, that's time and money we are not willing to spend we have it we're not going to do it so it doesn't it wouldn't surprise me if that was the case but yes someone absolutely should be verifying where because then it could literally be anyone this is so wild to me i don't i've never used amazon smile i don't think because i it's always when i'm, why are you going to a third party when you could directly donate, you know, to these folks or. toward uh which i guess is a little bit better than like you having no say over it but if every
Starting point is 00:47:27 charity imaginable has access to receive funds from this amazon smile thing then it it also defeats the purpose yeah and not only like people are pointing out that it like makes our brain chemicals light up and make us think we've done something let's not let amazon think they're doing a good thing by doing this shit like don't yeah don't participate in this and let amazon feel like ah we're really and this is why our logo is a smile because we help by indiscriminately just like spraying money at anyone who claims that they're a fucking non-profit like but not even a full day's worth of money yeah no no no no no no they this is them like using the rounding error that happens when they let people go to the bathroom like they're
Starting point is 00:48:20 like right you lose this much money every time someone pees uh and they're like, you know, we lose this much money every time someone pees. And they're like, all right, well, we'll give that much money away to charity. So, yeah. So, again, I'm going to say Amazon, not great company. Doesn't know what a tornado warning is. So, pretty shit company. Pretty shit. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:53:19 Hate that 5G. Yeah, 5G. Can't be doing it. So the anti-5G movement has been going on even before the pandemic. But it was mostly boring. People didn't really have to care that much. But it started really ramping up in 2020 when conspiracy theorists latched onto the idea that 5G caused COVID. Which, it seems weird that they were like, oh yeah, that one. opportunistic and like it doesn't make
Starting point is 00:54:06 any sense since the things that you were warning us would happen when you were concerned about it in the first place were not a viral pandemic, as far as I can tell. But so one thing that I have to warn you guys about, since it does seem like I can't stop you guys from going out and buying anti-5g merchandise for people you're buying holiday winter solstice gifts for thank you is that there's been this boom in anti-5g merchandise that and some of them themselves are emitting low levels of radiation the products there's radiation in the anti-5g. So when you're protecting yourself from imaginary rays, you're actually slowly killing yourself with real rays. I am befuddled.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Befuddled. Yeah. Because they're serious about protecting you from those rays and the only way to protect you from those rays is with other rays. Unfortunately, those rays aren't real, but the other rays are. So you are actually, you know.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Dude, looking at some of these products, it's wild. So one is like a baby wrap bump thing. So it's like a wrap that goes around a pregnant woman's stomach. We've got an umbrella. Yeah. You're just carrying around an umbrella all the time. Very goth of you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Here's my real problem. Listen, they used to, like, dye things green with arsenic, right? Create a beautiful green color. Spectacular. Dresses, watches, you name it, you could get it in this green. I respect people who wore that which literally would like dissolve your skin and give you like horrible sores and stuff because at least the product you're getting was beautiful i understand why am i looking these are all yeah you would not want to wear or hold
Starting point is 00:55:57 or be associated with literally any of these products the quantum pendant i've got to admit is pretty handsome that's no no witcher did it better go get a witcher like necklace with tacky wolf oh my goodness the don't 5g on me with a don't tread on me flag symbol like honestly yeah so there's also the one the products that don't emit radiation uh so they have that going for them but there's one featuring a it says 5g tower versus horsepower uh and it has a car like using a chain i guess to pull down a uh cell cell phone tower which was a thing that was happening a while back and is a good way to get put in jail people who buy this are the same folks that have like the calvin and hobbes peeing on whatever car emoji they didn't
Starting point is 00:56:51 like that's not fair to the people who have the calvin hobbes peeing on things i think it's sweeping generalization much you leave them alone people what is going on oh man oh man i imagine i just want more of these people who have woken up from this kind of crazy stuff who believed in the 5g or were part of q and on like the stories of people being like and then i woke up and was like oh was i crazy for six months how did this happen and the unraveling of it it's the internet is a wild thing that's still so much in its infancy and clearly we're learning the power it can quickly like take a hold of an entire community of people and make them believe essentially whatever like no fact checking or backing up or worse the places they go to get their facts are not accredited.
Starting point is 00:57:45 And you kind of get consumed in a wormhole of that stuff. It is. How can you think that 5G, which almost everyone is around everyone. Like you have a phone. Yeah. And how are we doing, Joelle? How are we doing? We're all around it.
Starting point is 00:58:01 How's everyone feeling? You know. You know. I'm tired. Thank you. I'm tired. Thank you. I'm tired. Thank you. I don't know if I want to blame it on 5G.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Like, I've been pretty aware of, like, the stuff that was in that, whatever that documentary was about how bad social networks are for us. The Netflix one? Yeah. With all of people who designed it who were like i'd never let my kids use it i'm like yeah are you seeing a problem here it's wild yeah i think there's also you know so there's like that is the like mechanical way of how it's getting like the bad information to us i just also think that like broadly there's like bad shit happening in the background that like is worse and like
Starting point is 00:58:46 more damaging to our like underlying mental health than we had realized and and like suddenly we're seeing you know so some of the some of these products are like you mentioned it's like a a umbrella or a hat that like blocks out the bad 5g beams and like it's a popular purchase step away from a tinfoil hat right literally like that's what we're seeing we're seeing the popularization of tinfoil hats and like this is you know that we are seeing what what it is to be in a world that is like, you know, governed by a system and like fully like kind of swallowed by, you know, this capitalist sort of paradigm that is very bad for our mental health, like where we've like had all of our human relationships now mediated by corporations trying to extract value from us, like, you know, whether it's like
Starting point is 00:59:47 romantic or familial or, you know, just any sort of context that used to be humanizing and allow us to have a break from thinking of everything as like a zero-sum game of like winner-take-all, like has been kind of invaded by this. It's like a spread of cancer. And I just, I don't know, I think we're going to keep seeing this, even like after they make like specific like changes so that to try and like curb misinformation or disinformation. Like I still think that we're in a bad place just as people like we're at a month mentally and spiritually unhealthy places
Starting point is 01:00:33 like a as a civilization that hopefully we can come back from but this is so what like one thing that i used to say a lot that i wanted to kind of officially revise is I would like when talking about history and like all the horrifying shit that happened in history, I would say that like history is like a nightmare that we're all waking up from. I also think that it assumes that this is like some of the shit that we were told growing up that like this is the best time to be alive and this is the best, you know, and I don't set that we like we're judging it by the values that currently govern the world. So, yeah, of course, like we have more stuff than we used to, but there's just a injustice to the world and a inhumanity to how we're treated and how we even think of ourselves that I think is really unhealthy and makes it a pretty difficult time to be alive. That's bleak out there. I think the best era in history was pre-Cars 2 era.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Right. Right before Cars 2 hit? Yeah. We were really innocent then. It was a simpler time. More connected as a society. We all got along. Well, that was before Mater could really realize what he could do with his charms, with his wiles.
Starting point is 01:02:15 True. It's so true. I'm crying. Anyways. Well, guys, it's always so great to talk to you both uh caitlin where can people find you and follow you you can find me and follow me on instagram and twitter you know the the social uh media platforms that yeah the best you're familiar you're familiar? that I advertise every day on my podcast
Starting point is 01:02:46 the ones that really help with all of our collective mental health you can follow yeah and the more followers I get the happier I'll be so follow me there at Caitlin Durante
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Starting point is 01:03:41 Yeah, yeah. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? So everyone should follow at Jay the Chow or Jay the Chu. I'm not sure what the pronunciation is, but this person photoshops Paddington into a frame from a movie or TV show every single day. So check that out at J-A-Y the C-H-O-U for some amazing Paddington content. Yeah. Alright. I'm following them right now. Joelle, where can people find you and follow you?
Starting point is 01:04:23 Y'all know me. I'm Joelle Monique you can find me all over the internet at Joelle Monique it's J-O-E-L-L-E-M-O-N-I-Q-U-E I've been enjoying a couple of tweets the first one is from at wonder underscore phoenix it is simply a screenshot from winter season 2 which I am obsessed with
Starting point is 01:04:38 and it's the witcher saying I've lived through a whole dark ages and three supposed end of days and someone was like me during this pandemic. And I identify. Yes, absolutely. It's never ending. And then the other one, Sony tweeted out a picture of Spider-Man from their newly released Spider-Man movie.
Starting point is 01:04:57 It says, hey, you've got Peter Parker for Secret Santa. What are you getting him? And someone said, who the fuck is Peter Parker? And if you've seen the movie, you know. And if you haven see this fucking movie it's so good is it really good now go it is so if you listen if you like spider-man it's oh my god good all right let me just say at this late point in the show what a bad podcast host i am i have the marvel defender and uh one of the biggest uh into the spiderverse fans out there on this podcast the literally the day after the new spider-man movie which yeah and just broke like all fucking box office records let's give you some i could give you quick stats before we
Starting point is 01:05:45 go out of here let's do just five minutes from you guys uh and then we can talk stats on the uh on yesterday's trending episode but so you guys both liked it yes yeah so good 253 million dollars domestic it's the third biggest ever december release ever biggest. December release ever. Biggest December release ever. Global did 587 million. Third biggest worldwide opening ever without releasing in China. It'd be the box office totals for Shang-Chi, Black Widow, Eternals, Venom. It's opening weekend. Yeah. No big deal.
Starting point is 01:06:20 It is a banger of a movie. Oh my God. I don't want to give any spoilers because it's still early but from a like if you're a comics person one of the cool thing about comics is sometimes you'll get like a guest artist to jump in and if you've seen doctor strange you know it has a very specific visual language and it's married into the spider-man franchise so beautifully tom holland is kicking ass and i really enjoyed it zendaya is honestly the only movie star of her generation it's just her out here running laps around everybody else being like how is her range so wide it is she can do all of it it's incredible and she's just playing like a regular high school
Starting point is 01:07:05 kid here but she's doing it so you've seen her play these like a married woman in like a domestically violent relationship you've seen her play like a kid with drug addiction issues who's really struggling to like find herself and then she comes in here and she just she aces all of it and it's so good in this cast i love it what do you think caitlin i also liked it i thought the way again not no spoilers here but the way that they handled spider-man stop it you stop no spoilers the way that the heroes approach dealing with the villains is a very fast it's like very fascinating i really enjoyed that the and if i can uh channel jamie loftus for a second oh yeah alfred melina is in the movie and that's not a spoiler we saw him in the trailer he's in the trailer um and you'll you'll you'll
Starting point is 01:08:01 laugh you'll cry you'll feel your feelings. It's a lot of fun. Grown men let out audible sobs the first time I saw this. And appropriately so. It was so, so good. And then Willem Dafoe, if you guys have seen the original Spider-Man, you know that he played the Green Goblin. And it was really good and kind of scary. And it's Willem freaking Dafoe. He's talented.
Starting point is 01:08:27 But he's pushed that character so far in this movie it's really an opportunity for redemption for a ton of people to be like you know what i could do better and they came and they did better they did so good i just i've seen this movie twice now i'm honestly looking forward to seeing it a third time it's worth it in 3d if you're the kind of person who can handle and likes 3D. It's very subtly done, which I think is hard for that kind of restraint in a movie where someone's literally swinging through buildings.
Starting point is 01:08:54 You want to go all out, but it's so subtle and beautiful and amazing. Also, just saw it in regular IMAX. That was great. If you're going to Brave, going to a movie, you know, double mask up, maybe try not to eat or drink during if you can and then just really take in the big picture of everything because it's it just gets beautiful but also disney plus is bringing these things to streaming
Starting point is 01:09:15 so fast maybe not this one because it earned so much and they'll probably expect you to continue to earn but yeah don't feel bad about waiting either it'll be on streaming soon enough so good so good all right so thumbs one thumb up one thumb down i did i get should i read that right it was like a two-star review okay all right uh on that subject a tweet i've been enjoying is from ben joseph at jen boseph tweeted the box office numbers at movie numbers. And it said Friday estimates, Spider-Man, No Way Home,
Starting point is 01:09:49 121.5 million. Encanto, 1.65 million. Nightmare Alley, 1.19 million. Say great news for Disney, but tough night for Disney and Disney. Because Disney owns everything now.
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Starting point is 01:10:22 information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy and i actually have one for us today it is a song called stone fruit by armand hammer and the alchemist i don't know it's got some bismarcky singing meets wu-tang with like a massive vocabulary it It's got a synth line that I really like. It feels, I don't know, the best verses about being killed and having your bones built into a bed and your skull used as a goblet to drink rosé out of.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Which is, I've always been a fan of verses like that. And also the alchemist is just so good. So anyway, stone fruit. And you like drinking rosé out of people's skulls. I like having people drink rosé out of my skull. Which is, yeah, the point of view is somebody who has been consumed, built into a bed, had their teeth worn as a necklace, and is like okay with it. Yes, use my dead body as decoration. I love the idea of being beautiful
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