The Daily Zeitgeist - Anti Vaxxers = Smart? Chet Hanks = Alt Right Influencer? 8.19.21

Episode Date: August 19, 2021

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And he makes everyone on this podcast feel old as fuck. Please welcome the young and talented garrison davis i was born in 2002 2002 shocking i love to hear it a little bit i love to hear it i was talking with sophie the other day i was like yeah garrison's coming on and i'm like yeah but garrison man you make me feel so old in the best way though like where i'm like damn i'm glad these young people got their shit together also i'm like angry i'm like how does he not know this other shit from the 80s because it's 20 years before he was born and i was i was yelled at for not knowing what wayne's world is recently oh wow you say as though

it's like how did that come up like because i was like, yeah, right from Wayne's World? And you're like... Yeah, it's like something, yeah. Someone's trying to do some obscure reference to this media property of Wayne's World. And I have no idea what they're talking about. Wayne's World is super influential to the point that people could probably say the jokes

and they would be old to you even though you've never seen Wayne's World and didn't know what it was yeah probably yeah like the resurgence of bohemian rhapsody yeah bohemian rhapsody wasn't even really that big a hit before they did a a funny head banging scene in the car to it and then now it's a oscar-winning film and now jack and i can't stop saying schwing either have you heard of that thing garrett i don't know if i've heard of swing damn i want to hang out with the people you hang out with y'all better shit to do yeah we we don't well then then allow us to blend our cultures you show me that

your ways and i will show you the choogy ways that's fine yeah yeah okay you guys sound fun not thanks is that is that something that uh i am i am aware of not okay cool growing up in the growing up in the early 2000s we had a lot of something not yeah yeah yeah yeah a lot of a lot was not cool well uh something cool young we are gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment. A couple of things we're going to be talking about later on. Governor Greg Abbott currently has COVID. He's, you know, he feels fine, but just to be safe, he is getting that, even though just to be safe, he wasn't worried about people being safe within his state who aren't him. We'll talk about the Sacklers, David Sackler and the people who created the opioid crisis.

We'll talk about them because they're trying to hold a settlement hostage, 4.5 bills. We'll talk about a recent study that has found that vaccine hesitancy is highest among PhDs and why that shouldn't be that surprising to us, even though at first you're like, wait, what? Yeah, we'll explain it. Garrison, I'm going gonna ask you about the nazi appropriation of the white boy summer meme that you and robert yeah wrote about for bellingcat and just get your thoughts on like whether chet hanks has gained self-awareness and is now doing all of his like right wing memeing uh purpose, just out of desperation.

I just did a whole bunch of extra work on this this weekend, actually. So a whole bunch of new things. Great. Oh, please. Take us into that world. We will talk to you about that. We will talk to you about gender reveal Cheddar Bay biscuits.

Amazing. Yes. What, like the inside? Yeah, they're doing a little... Yeah. I mean, we probably don't need to talk about it. I just told you everything you need to know about it. And there's a new Girl Scout cookie,

and we'll announce the upcoming streaming corner. Streaming corner. Assignments. Super producer Ana Hosnia's streaming corner. Streaming. A little sound bug for that, or a sting. I'll just say it every time. But before we get to any of that shit, Garrison,

we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Oh, boy. I've been doing a lot of work for the new show, so I have a lot of stuff related to Stopline 3 and a particular group called the GNU Collective, which is most of my search history right now because of my writing projects.

That's most of my stuff on Google is around GNU Collective, Stopline 3, and Embridge, the company building the pipeline. Yeah. Can you explain a little bit about what the show is about in general? Yeah. So it could happen here daily. We have five. We're starting off with five scripted episodes, laying out kind of like the mission statement for the show and laying down like the base information. talking to like climate scientists activists and then just keeping up to date on different social movements related to environmental activism and related to like how to mitigate some of the worst effects of localized climate collapses because the big part of the show is talking about how i'm especially around people my age we're seeing a big increase in like doomer ideas yeah right we're all like there's

nothing we can do to save it which is like partially true but it's it's it's wrong in the specific way that there's not going to be one big collapse that ends everything if there's going to be small local things that slowly crumble away our modern world and we can do things that help the people who are going to get hurt the most by that. And we're trying to focus on the things that can help. For people who don't know what It Could Happen Here is, it was a show. Season one was released in 2019. Kind of Robert looking at, you know, using his background of being in countries that had gone through civil wars. And, you know, the thing that he kept hearing from people is like, we never thought that

this could happen here. And, you know, talking about like how the right wing fascist movement in America could turn into some manner of civil war and actually ended up predicting a lot of the shit we saw in January 6th and just like in the immediate aftermath of that show. So now the focus is on climate change and how we're seeing that bring about things people would recognize from like movie dystopias in a lot of cases.

Yeah. Yeah. That's wild. It in a lot of cases. Yeah. Yeah. It's wild. It's a very, very interesting show. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated? Okay, so I just spent a week in the forest. And overrated, I think, I'm going to say shoes.

I think people should slowly try to use less shoes. Because walking around barefoot in the forest is very fun. It can hurt the first day, but after a while, you start to get little calluses and you can start moving around really quickly and you feel very cool and primal. I think people have an over-reliance on some shoes. I like going for like,

wow, cats are just scratching my chalkboard. That is a horrible sound. Wow, that's like you're in a horrible that's that was wow that's not even a torture chamber no my cat's being bad but yeah shoot i i used to teach parkour classes and like once a week i would do um barefoot parkour just so i have like a baseline you know just in case i ever lose my shoes i can still do some stuff with my bare feet they take my shoes i'm still i know i'm still good. So I think shoes,

people should learn to walk without shoes. What were you doing in the forest for, or how long were you in the forest? I was in the forest for a week.

It was supposed to be a vacation, and we were going whitewater rafting, but I was on the trip with a whole bunch of terrorism researchers, so it very quickly

became a work trip because we were able to start talking about all of our research fields right and you're like come on let's leave the domestic terror stuff yeah in the city for a moment so we didn't we didn't really do a vacation it was mostly a work trip because of all of us because we were all talking but it was it was very fun yeah all it takes is for you to see like one sort of like far right meme sticker like on a car and then suddenly i was like did you guys see that uh-huh that was like me on any trip when i'm like oh did you see that car and they're like what i'm like there are three person forget it

i'm ruining this nice time yeah i love no shoes i love no shoes i i because i you know i would always run around barefoot most of the time i think it might i don't know i'm i like that feeling more than anything even though i love i love a shoe i love to put a shoe on but the feeling of just like navigating shoeless i also get a sense of pride sometimes you see some tender-footed people who are like oh goodness i'm like you never stepped on concrete in the summer get with it yeah it Yeah, it is very fun to run across the gravel and watch people cringe at you. And you're like, no, it's fine.

Yeah, you're like, it's fine, really. And you're like, what's the idea of this thing? Is that something that you and Robert have talked about at all? Because I remember running into him a couple times back in our cracked days, and he was just jogging around Santa Monica without shoes on. I know he also does barefoot running but no this is something i've been doing for for years before i knew who

robert evans was right but yeah it's just you know that's synchronicity yeah yeah but you guys just are both you both recognize that there's a possibility one day that you'll be without shoes like die hard except a climate disaster. Yeah, and you don't have shoes on. Wait, you know Die Hard, Garrison? I know Die Hard. Okay, alright. I know Die Hard.

I know a good amount of 90s movies. Yeah, yeah. Actually, I do love to ask extremely young people what their favorite movie is of all time. Oh, man. That is rough. You can come back to that if you want. Speaking ofs movies i do love the fugitive i think that is a very that's a very fun movie one of the great um and we can all appreciate movies about running away from u.s marshals we can all all appreciate that yeah absolutely i i've always thought that the sequel u.s marshalls is actually the godfather

two of us u.s marshalls is also a very good movie yeah because you get to see robert downey jr on so many trucks yeah yeah it's true he is constantly wasted in that movie yeah oh is he i never even oh totally he like went into rehab And like Like right after this film It's He's like on so Much drugs Yeah Then he came back to us

And then he came back As Iron Man Yeah Yeah What's What's something you think Is underrated So part of my

Part of my trip Is I was actually In South Carolina And I got to go to Waffle House For the first time And I think I saw that tweet

We don't have Waffle Houses up here. So I think people are missing out on the heaven-like experience of Waffle House. I think Waffle House is underrated because we should have them everywhere. What'd you get? Oh, I got so many things. I got so many waffles.

I got hash browns with the smothered and covered and all that kind of stuff. Capped with like the smothered and covered and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. We, I love it. Yeah. Yeah. I did.

I, I did all of it. I, I, I got enough variations that I was able to get the full Waffle House experience. I, I stole a Waffle House mug. That was pretty fun.

I, I first, I first asked the waitress, can I buy this mug? She's like, no, but you can steal it. And I was like,

cool. And then I gave, and I gave her a very good tip. There you go. It all comes out. That's actually something that ties into climate change because there's the Waffle House Index. Yes. Right. Because Waffle Houses just never close unless they absolutely have to.

People use the number of Waffle Houses that are open on a given day as a representation of like how how bad things are basically yeah from a yeah they all have like they all have like their backup generators yeah they're very very very good way of looking at you know disasters and localized areas right yeah they're like sadly we're, more industries should take note of Waffle House for having such a robust future forward ideology. Yeah, Waffle House is underrated. More Waffle Houses. What do you think in the future? Like, if it's like Demolition Man style dystopia, like the Waffle House is like our refuge for like the trek to humanity.

It's the bastion of civilization. Yeah. Yeah. That's the one part of Mad Max Fury I don't really like is when they talk about like the goldenion of civilization. Yeah. Yeah. That's the one part of one part of a Mad Max Fury I don't really like is when they talk

about like the golden arches or something like we should just have that but for Waffle House be like that's like the one

thing we all like remember as being a thing. Right. It's like the one part of civilization still

standing is somewhere there's a Waffle House that's still open. We have to find it. And somehow

still getting product. Still getting product. Somehow. Somehow. They have to find it. And somehow still getting product. Still getting product. Somehow. Somehow. They're still getting hash browns, still getting waffle batter. Yeah. Yeah.

I wonder, like, I feel like Waffle House, the, like, maybe Taco Bell takes over the, is the Elysium kind of level restaurant. But then Waffle house is like the, what, what Dennis Leary and his crew eat instead of rats. Oh, they actually just are like waffle houses there for the people. I mean, I'll believe it. The people I'll sound,

I mean, you know, there's this corporatocracy chugs along, like eventually it will be like, yeah. Did you go to waffle house to get your COVID test and, and, uh,

medication distribution like yeah because i feel like what a dream yeah i feel like things work better in our brand of like hyper capitalism when there's like two big brands like coke and pepsi as opposed to like you never just have one brand to dominate or when you do, it gets weird like America after the fall of the Soviet Union. So, yeah, I think Demolition Man got it wrong. There's going to be a second brand. And I do like Waffle House is the prediction for that. I just think if we're already leaning on Waffle House for refuge in like bad weather, I think that bodes well for whatever the, you know, the new White House will just be the Waffle House for refuge in bad weather, I think that bodes well for whatever.

The new White House will just be the Waffle House, probably. That is the new WH. There you go. This out of the WH president, blah, blah, blah. I wish I was there at the Waffle House. Joe Biden could be so much better if he

just moved his house into a Waffle House. They just serve waffles. He'd have a better idea about minimum wage, for sure. Joe Biden could be so much better if he just moved his house into a waffle house. They just serve waffles. He'd have a better idea about minimum wage for sure. He would have a better idea about a lot of things. Yeah. If he was forced to always work in a waffle house. Yeah. That would be like a cool, like if I was one of the guys who worked for Biden and Pod Save America,

guys who worked for uh biden and uh pod save america like a waffle house tour of like america would be like a good like kind of blue collary like a gimmick that they could do and it's branded baby and it's branded that's right it pays for itself y'all i mean get the paperwork up so you ride for waffle house over uh the international house of pancakes yes yeah i have i've been to ihops before and they they pale in comparison to the to the beauty and the potential of waffle house but is there anything that even comes because i don't know anybody who's like a ihop stand or even when they went ihob with the burgers they did that oh man i totally forgot about that i actually like ihop a, but I went abroad. So, like, I'm very international, you know.

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Regeneron. Wow. You do your thing. You say, what a fucked up announcement. I go, oh, yeah, I got covid. But don't worry. I don't have any symptoms. Thank God I'm fully vaccinated. Won't push the vaccine. We'll push the high cost treatment of Regeneron. And, you know, I'm actually on monoclonal antibodies. So please ignore the part where I said I have no symptoms. And just also don't connect the Regeneron to that idea it's so fucking weird

i'm like i don't know anyone who has asymptomatic covid who's taking regeneron did you see what he was doing the night before he announced he got a positive test oh i saw that he was in some event that was the massive event with old people yeah the massive old person political event yeah within like 18 hours of like leaving that place he's like i got covid y'all uh-huh you look at those pictures you're like this little fucking auditorium was they are packed with and you know they're old because these are they were dressed up yeah they're old dressed up conservatives with that they were did not i don't know like who knows maybe everyone there was vaccinated but yeah probably not

probably not which is so wild right is that all their leaders that they look up to vaccinated yet there's no they they're not willing to go that other step of being like well how come you're vaccinated that that is that is kind of the main problem with this is that like abbott's gonna be fine right like he's, he's, he's going to be fine, but all the people who listen to him are not like, they don't get the same specialized treatment. They're not,

they're not going to be vaccinated the same way he, they probably aren't vaccinated or at least some of them aren't, you know, because Abbott doesn't, you know, he's gets it. He's not, he's not going to push it.

You know, same thing with Tucker, who's probably vaccinated, but he's still going to push this all, we're going to push this rhetoric to further like the culture war or trunker as mike lindell calls him on oan the other night did he do his iron trunk or he knew and you're like trunk trunk oh no yeah he's he hasn't been doing it's supposed to be like it's like trump and truck trump and tucker together yeah i'm guessing a truck and i don't know i don't know

anyway but yeah but like all of the like you know all the people who like follow them for information they're they're gonna be the ones actually who are harmed you know everyone like tucker is gonna be fine if he ever gets covet abbott's gonna be fine it's all of like it's all of like the lower class people who follow them who listen to what they say they're the ones that are actually going to get hurt by this right so that's just just the cycle that we see in American politic. And also, if only there were harsher penalties for cozying up to pharmaceutical companies when you're a politician. Uh-huh. Because we've seen it with Rand Paul, and he's like, oh, did I forget to disclose all those investments my wife made?

I don't know. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. Anyway,'s urgent i don't know anyway we'll talk about later it does nothing it just crickets underneath the surface meanwhile you have desantis and abbott like doing just commercials for fucking regeneron no one's like kind of like huh what's going on here the one interesting thing is like if you look if you just search regeneron like some of the articles are like man the stock prices are going up as gop governors touted as a viable treatment for covid great that's like what's in barons right now we just don't have

any social infrastructure built to like get any energy behind something that doesn't make money for someone. So, like, because the vaccine is not monetized in any way, we just, like, can't get people to, like, just give a shit about it. Like, enough to, like, send it to, like, get people actually getting it in any effective way. And we don't do good marketing for it. That's the other thing. It's like, this country really runs on marketing. And the marketing that's been done for the vaccine. I was going to say runs on Dunkin' because of how good that marketing is. It also runs on Dunkin' because of marketing.

Yeah. It's all of these things that have been embedded in our brains. And we don't have the same good marketing for the vaccine because there's no business for it. It's not something that's being monetized. Which is why people just slap Fauci's face on stuff and think that's good enough when that actually makes people less likely to get the vaccine. The more we push Fauci

and vaccine stuff, the worse it gets. We need to rethink the way we're doing marketing around the vaccine and start using the techniques we use for monetized marketing. Because that's what actually works. We're just not doing it for this. I think we just need to start charging money for the vaccine get right to just actually get it yeah be like sorry all right so we got an experimental vaccine that's uh

actually made by nike and apple and it is no no no conservatives hate nike sorry uh john deere and new balance new balance an apple by a sentient 1988 chevy silverado pickup truck and just get get people actually feeling like it's it's worth something because that's the only version of being worth something that american brains can handle you like you you joked about getting vaccinated at Waffle House, but that's the actual things that work, is going to the places where people go in their everyday lives and be like, yeah, here, you can go to your COVID shot at your local grocery store when you're waiting in line.

All these little things are the things that actually work. Meanwhile, Regener like is able to make so much money off of it that they got abbott to catch covet as a viral stunt like that yeah right that's impressive i mean hey look he's he says like look dude i'll post to my main social channels too i'll post to my personal socials too like let's work out an influencer deal here yeah but yeah their stock price has gone up 35 this year oh my god so a bit of a bit of a pretty penny uh-huh if you are invested in regeneron pharmaceuticals i should i should have put all my money in regeneron this year instead of bitcoin i lost it all and i could have could have just got regeneron money oh yeah probably just to lose it all again with whatever have could have just got regeneron money oh yeah and probably just to lose

it all again with whatever scheme they got going over there but then even like one of the founders sons was like running for congress if you remember last year oh wow it's just like you know they're like put my young kid in there and he'll just be the stooge who does my bidding as a congressperson it's very uh very murky over there uh-huh it's yeah i mean wait the more you learn about american history the more you realize like this is this has always been the thing to bail out the rich in favor of like the american government basically chose to create railroad barons in place of like actually helping the south with reconstruction like that right that's basically the decision that they made because it's just they they always go

with the money like just from jump well speaking of always going with the money uh-huh so david sackler is one of the members of the sacklerler family who, you know just completely created the current situation we have with the devastating opioid crisis and the u.s government by the way is going after usually immigrant doctors instead of the sackler family yeah but it right this is a purdue pharma the company that the sacklers own which is the maker of oxycontin look everyone knows how bad oxy is how bad the opioid epidemic is how the sacklers and purdue were like willfully just downplaying how addictive and damaging it could be uh to get you know become dependent on these these medications and fucking drugs at this point. Well, this fucking guy essentially went into court and said, look, here's the deal,

because right now, as it stands, they've they've agreed to pay four and a half billion dollars as part of a settlement to just be like, oops, sorry about a half a million over half a million people dying on, you know, just off the strength of these drugs. And who knows countless others, probably if you really game it out to like other addictions, but saying, okay, look, we know we're going to have to pay this four and a half billion as just a minimum to sort of write the, the sort of epidemic of opioid addiction. But then he said, unless my family and others involved with this are granted blanket immunity from legal repercussions, we are not going to pay the four and a half billion dollars and fuck a settlement, because if you want to go there, we got money and we can go. We can see every motherfucker in court

till the day we fucking die and we will out legal fee your ass. So what the fuck you going to do? He essentially is holding this settlement hostage in exchange for immunity from any fucking more legal reprisal. Let me just read some of the shit. He says, quote, or not, this isn't a quote, but essentially this is from the New York Times, quote, he said the family anticipated that the liability shield would cover him, other members of his extensive family, and about a thousand other individuals, including contractors and consultants, and protect them from lawsuits that had nothing to do with opioids. That means they would be forever immunized from any current and future lawsuits

worldwide related not only directly to Purdue's opioids, but to other drugs the company makes, including drugs for addiction reversal, high cholesterol, and even constipation as a result of taking prescription opioids. That really feels like even constipation as a result of taking prescription opioids that really feels like even threatening that should be a crime like there's enough like weird things going on you're like that that no like that's not how that that shouldn't be how it works yeah and you know to your point jack like everything's set up here so if you're wealthy no one's gonna get be able to get one over on you. Because even in this situation, you've they've got your ass dead to rights. And you go in here saying, you know what, actually, I'm not going to pay four and a half billion. Because if I really think about it,

I'm going to hear this what I'll do. I'll flip this into a fucking legal immunity shield forever for everyone I know. Because at the end of the day, the legal system is set up that if you have more means, then you can just get people locked up in this cycle of litigation till they go broke and then they won't they can't sue you anymore. It's great. I mean, we have the documentation where they are taking into account the opioid crisis and saying keep keep your foot on the gas like keep let's keep pushing we we have like they need to be treated the sackler family they need to be treated like like el chapo yeah seize his assets what the fuck's he what are you talking about he either or just go seize his assets like he's a drug dealer because that's what he is i mean i think that's the beauty of how you know these industries are set up and how government interacts with them that it's like well if you're making see at least we can get to collect taxes off some of these opioids

but the fucking other hard drugs from cartels well right just i don't know what what do we do there and yeah we just don't have the same there's just no even though the stakes are the exact same loss of human life due to people's care just disregard for it that somehow we're putting it in the white collar section where it's a fancier affair and lots of the other harder drugs are like way less addictive and way less harmful than Oxycontin. Right. Right. Good, good things we have set up here. Yeah. Yeah. And, yeah, you'd hope that you lived in a country

where it didn't take them being like, fine, I guess we'll settle. Are you happy? Where they could just say, fuck that. You just, you're killing people willfully. I don't give a fuck. No, fuck, we're taking your shit. They honestly couldn't be more guilty. Like like when you read the history of the family you read that the founder of the company and like one of the lead like person who brought this family into

the pharmaceutical industry was the person who came up with the idea of marketing to doctors about medication and like misleading doctors like he came up with the original sin that caused this whole thing it like they they couldn't be more clear-cut like the right family to just seize all their assets and you know no yeah like they should get their assets seized pay the five billion dollars and still face legal repercussions. It should all happen. Yes.

And he's funny dude. Jack you and David Sackler are the same age but like he looks like some fucking hell. He does look so much older. Wow. He's 41. He's 41. Whoa. All of his evil things has like caused him to age drastically i know it's funny it's like the trump kids you wear that karma on your face it sucks it out of you wow that's amazing wow yeah that's i was just thinking about stuff like

that i'm like damn that's like when you just think people born at the same time have these fucking this. His worldview has been completely insulated from like the evil of his family's money. And he's out here with his chest. I'd be like, we won't pay unless you give us immunity. And that's threatening to blow up this settlement that a lot of people are counting on this money to come through because now they're like, well, hold up, bro. We're going to fucking give them. So it's we'll see how this plays out but a lot of people especially like different states and groups that agree to this definitely don't want some you know fucking the star from mario to protect him and his family to be like invincible from now on yeah and i mean the the family members

who he's probably like well you know this is the best thing for my family long term because i'll be able to like have money for future generations of kids and you know they're that that shit is evident to everyone whether they want to like admit it consciously or whether it just like festers in the unconscious and makes them look like they're 70 when they're actually 45 years old. Like you're not actually getting away with it. There's a psychological toll. All right. Let's talk real quick about this new study that I just wanted to address because I could see it kind of getting misinterpreted by the vaccine-hesitant groups that, you know, like to gas each other up on Facebook and WhatsApp. So there's a new paper from Carnegie Mellon that says that the curve, like they did a broad poll that's, you know, statistically significant, but not like definitive in any way. But it is an interesting like kind of statistical trend.

They found that the curve for vaccine hesitancy is U-shaped, where basically, you know, people who are not college educated are the second most likely to be vaccine hesitant. Then you kind of go down, down, down, like as you get to like college educated, master's degree, etc. But then it goes back up when you get to PhDs and like the more educated, like the people who have the most advanced degrees. And that is something that I feel like would have been very surprising and like worrying to me, like when I was younger, I guess, and like just kind of hadn't read as much about like the fact that that same curve people joining cults. They're actually, you know, people with higher education are more likely to join cults than those with less education. And they also found in this study that the like PhD candidates or people with PhDs were the least likely to change their mind on the subject, least likely to change their mind on the subject which i think is also kind of instructive because the reason for the cult and this trend i think are that they are it's basically the smarter you are it's not the more likely you are to be right it's the better you are at arguing for whatever you want to believe and so you are

just more you're better at constructing an argument that makes it makes you feel like you are special and better than everybody else right like it's just there's there's something about americans that makes us want to be special that makes us want to resist being feeling like we're part of like a herd where we're like following part of a community or yeah exactly and and so i think like this makes total sense to me that they they would be able to convince themselves of this self-serving like version of reality where they're like special yeah and it's also not all phds it's still a small minority of phds sure but if you are phd the chances are high though that you might uh you might be hezy with the vaccine

i mean it's like 20 30 percent so not high but higher than most i totally get that and i i look in my own life i have people in my life who have very high degrees and are very resistant and like sort of within the you know family or friend group have occupied a space of like person you're not going to ever win an argument with because they'll just they'll just like you know they're not necessarily just going to throw out a bunch of false shit that you have to like the gish gallopy type debate style but like truly like always trying to triangulate another position in the middle of like fleeing another position to stay like i guess rhetorically superior in that sense and i and it's playing out now into hesitancy vaccine hesitancy and in a way when i'm just like

yeah actually when you think of the cult stuff and things like that like it's playing out now into hesitancy, vaccine hesitancy. And in a way when I'm just like, yeah, actually, when you think of the cult stuff and things like that, like it's the same thing of, well, you're certainly not going to convince me. Definitely not going to be you because I've already I've already done the triangulations and calculations about this. And I and I'm fine here. because it's not like there's, you know, especially with an advanced degree, there's sort of reinforced this idea that you know enough that some other person clearly is going to know more than you. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about Chet Hanks and Nazis.

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And we're back. And so Garrison, you wrote about how Chet Hanks' meme-spawning declaration that we were about to see a white boy summer back in the spring was kind of seized on by white supremacists and Nazi groups to create memes. You and Robert Evans wrote about this for belling cat and i just wanted to kind of get your your take on that and then also like get your thoughts on uh since you guys published that i believe he has come out with his anti-vaxxer video just like i'm curious if you think he is consciously chasing a right-wing fan base because he recognizes that's like his best chance at fame yeah so like the white boy summer thing was obviously inevitably going to get used by nazis it's called white boy summer right like that like like that that part's obvious so what the kind of what the article was kind of more about was talking about was like tracking what groups were using

that meme and the type of propaganda they were making and what their main goal was out of it it was terrifying the propaganda that you guys yeah i mean and we we didn't we didn't share the worst of it like there was like there was a lot a lot worse stuff that we have saved to our hard drives for later because it's like it got it got used by a whole bunch of accelerationist neo-nazi groups to basically push this meme which is you know it covers a broad range of political spectrums from like you know it's not just a nazi thing um so like a lot of a lot of if you like search the white post somewhere hashtags you get a lot of a lot of different stuff so if you could insert accelerationist propaganda into it you can get it seen by a lot more people that wouldn't usually see that type of media. So, you know, one of the main groups that was starting to use this stuff more and more

was the Nick Fuentes-Groiper group. And they were starting to plan, like, actual, like, rallies. They were starting to, you know, they were teaming up with Paul Gosar to do, like, White Boy Summer events. So, like, they were trying, what was concerning about them was that they're taking this online thing and putting it into the real world, which is always, like, a very notable escalation. Because that just introduces a whole lot more possibilities. And trying to look into, like, the origin of who was pushing this meme, especially the more extreme parts of it.

Like, you know, even more extreme than, like, Proud Boys. Like, much more, like, weird, accelerationist Nazis. like much more weird accelerationist Nazis. There is a whole bunch of people behind the scenes who are creating propaganda and pushing certain aesthetics through this meme to kind of push people down very dangerous rabbit holes online. Lots of stuff that's not even worth talking about because it's just, it's very,

it's better to not even know about it. So there was a whole bunch of stuff behind the scenes going on with this meme and the particular aesthetics that they were using. Like the orangey beach aesthetic that kind of follows a certain path down, whether you're searching on Telegram or even places on Instagram, when you're trying to follow that aesthetic, you can lead up into some very bizarre places. And then as for like

chat it's always hard to kind of gauge someone's especially someone like him who's like a who's like a public figure like his intentions because he definitely sees this i mean like if you saw like the first white boy summer video of him of him in his car that like went viral he obviously was like oh this is something that's gonna go this this went viral i have to find a way to to like make you know make a bigger deal of this so people will watch me. So then he made the terrible music video. So, you know, he's very much trying to follow where attention leads. And attention is still kind of on him.

He's going to keep doing things that are controversial, quote unquote. But I don't think he's going to do anything that takes an actual stance on anything. I don't think he's going to do anything that takes an actual stance on anything, because he's in a really convenient spot right now that people can watch his content who don't have strong feelings one way or the other, or have strong feelings one way. He can't attract both of them, because of the type of stuff that he's doing.

So he's very much trying to piggyback off of the kind of culture-war-y type stuff, but without actually having to take an actual position on anything. And it's more concerning for the White Boy Summer thing, was that he was just being used by people with much worse intentions, where his intention is mostly just monetary and

for attention. And I have not watched his vaccine video, because I watched the White Boy Summer rap, but that was about all I could take. it's the same thing yeah it's it's the same thing i'm trying to figure out what's the thing that's gonna get you know trending on twitter so people can like see me do my little thing and that's the thing he's currently doing right yeah yeah it's it definitely i mean i think yeah without him knowing not, you definitely see the pattern of someone who's on the fringes of celebrity and things like that doing whatever they can to find their audience. And a lot of the times, especially with comedians who have been, you know, had their, you know, people be like, well, you know, we're not really fucking with this person anymore.

They typically find a home on the alt-right, especially. And it's like because of this victims of cancellation or whatever it's very it's very easy to be a far-right quote-unquote comedian yeah no 100 and i think yeah with him you can sort of see that consciously or not it seems like he's probably he sees attention he sees numbers and then that's what's pulling him in that direction yeah because the whole the anti-vaxxer thing it felt like he it's like he had been consuming like anti-vaxxer media because the setup of it was very much like meant to be a troll meme for anti-vaxxers where it was like he's taking on the you know the energy and disposition of someone who's

caring about the pandemic and and asking people to take the viruses and then switching it up with his psych and then going into his fucking patois bullshit whatever the fuck he's you know his jamaican accent he got yeah he's definitely he's definitely a space worth watching especially if he's going to keep doing this space worth watching especially if he's going to keep doing this thing because the one thing that's been interesting about it that he's he's had his like finger on the pulse for a lot of for a lot of things whether he knows that or not right like the white boy summer thing ballooned to such a large degree especially online for you know to the point where i'm like sitting down and watching hours of like nazi propaganda about enacting

specific acts of terrorism. You see this weird chaos theory effect of the butterfly makes this video in his car, and now I'm watching this video about how different ways you can shoot up X place. All tag with white boy summer hashtags with aesthetics.

And it's the same thing with that was the pulse in early spring. And the new thing we're seeing is a whole bunch of like neo-Nazis trying to infiltrate and co-opt like anti-vax rallies. We're seeing it in every city. We're seeing a lot of this in Los Angeles. So it's the same thing. Whether it's on purpose or not, or just it's a weird synchronicity of events, he's had his finger on a pulse for a lot of these things that turn out to be big problems. And the anti-vax thing and the anti-vax in-person rallies are not going to be going away anytime soon. They're going to keep going because it's not actually about the vaccine. It's about people who want to get in-person mobilization and they're

using the vaccine as an excuse to do that. There's something almost magnetic for dumb narcissists and the right, it seems like. Yeah. Because Trump started out as a Democrat, you know, and then slowly by slowly as just a somebody who possesses a sucking black hole in the middle of their being that like needs to be filled with attention. They just like he just slowly gravitated over there. Kanye, I think, suffers from one of the more, you know, extreme cases of narcissism that we've ever seen in the public stage and like that. He kind of gravitated over there and Chad Hanks seems to be similar, similar situation. It just seems like that is a deadly combination that seems to never head in a good direction. No. Yeah.

Yeah. never head in a in in a good direction no yeah yeah and i think especially with you see a lot of the like i saw so many videos where like proud boys were there working with these anti-vax people to just essentially be like okay well here's a group of people who mostly align but they're in physical space so let's let's see what we can get going here. And yeah, that combination is just it's frightening to see it just sort of evolve constantly. But yeah, I don't know. Chad Hanks is going to be doing a fucking tour with

Lauren Boebert and Matt Gates or some shit. The thing that would be interesting to see is if he's getting interviewed by outlets where he gets interviews and what outlets are doing it. That's the thing like you know is he going to show up on steven crowder's show sometime you know that's the kind of thing that i'll be that's worth watching to figure out like what is this guy actually doing that yeah it's where he's going to try to get you know his media boosted and and what media is boosting it without his involvement you know what's the places that are spreading his stuff in hopes of creating memes off of it yeah well i think one group that we do know that is fucking with him is the rapper soldier boy because the most recent thing that

is coming out is that he signed chet hanks signed with Soulja Boy's record label. Interesting. So we'll see what Chet Hanks does with that one. Because we know so badly he wants to be black. He's going about this in the weirdest way, Chet. But we'll see what his record deal looks like. But yeah, Soulja Boy says he's like, I can't, it's going down, is what he said in this clip. So I guess Chet Hanks is his new artist. Yeah.

Watch this space. Yeah, exactly. All right. Let's do a quick kind of lightweight pop culture salad. Like we mentioned, there are gender reveal cheddar Bay biscuits being rolled out by Red Lobster. How do you do this? I mean, it's just in my mind. This is how they do it.

So there's a little bit of Tannerite in each biscuit with some dye. And you shoot the biscuit and the Tannerite blows up inside the Red Lobster. Oh, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it. Is it just that it's the interior is hidden yeah the interior is hidden i think there's like some i definitely feel like the interior of cheddar bay biscuits are maybe a different consistency from the exterior right they're a little bit gooey a little bit like soft and so they're just taking whatever that ingredient is and it's gross it's gross looking at color is in the middle of the cheddar

baby i mean come on unfortunately this could save a lot of lives because if people if people just go to red lobster instead of blowing up things in the forest we'll get less we'll get less fathers killed at their gender reveal parties we'll get we'll get less forests burned down by Tannerite explosions, so hopefully this will have a net good impact. Yeah, if it even prevents one forest fire, then we should be giving them a Nobel Prize.

Critical support to Red Lobster. This is being rolled out because we're coming up on September, which is you know, like humanity actually has a mating season like which is around december early january like the holidays which is weird because i mean i was born in september so that makes sense yeah yeah and it's you know it's mainly like a wholesome holiday that focuses on kids. But then when you consider all the adult portions of the holiday season are focused around getting drunk, it starts to make a little more sense that that's like the mating season.

When were you born? What's your birthday, Garrison? It was sometime in September. I'm coy about my actual birthday. Oh, okay. Tell me off air. Sure. So yeah, that's another thing. Girl Scout Cookies have announced that they've got a new flavor coming out. Brownie Sea Salt Caramel. That is apparently the takeout got a sample and said it's good. They also got a sample of Guy Fieri's Hot Dog Apple Pie.

Everyone says that's good. They say that's an A. They gave it an A. They say it's... He doesn't miss. Where do you buy that? It was only for this... It first came up for this Field of Dreams baseball game

that they did last Thursday. That was in Iowa. And it was like one of the... That was just one of the things you could buy there. Will this be rolled out on a larger scale? Who knows? I mean, it seems like if they were planning to roll it out on a larger scale

they're doing a good job of like seeding it but i think it's made by chevrolet or like chevrolet is like somehow because yeah it was something to do with like some ad thing where it was like as american as hot dogs apple pies and chevys that makes sense that's where they like hopped in to do that if they can add the vaccine to that it's good marketing i know right yeah right oh but like the takeout was giving chevy like credit for they were like chevy thought of everything with like this like presentation they gave them like the sweet mustard and like a little thing that looks like a oil like for your car would come in it it's kind of yum like 10w30 nothing makes me hungry like chugging car oil oh yeah absolutely and then this other girl scout

thing it's a brownie cookie brownie cookie but they said that it's not like chewy like a brownie it's actually kind of crumbly like a girl scout cookie but chocolatey i think this flavor is like four years too old if they did this flavor four years ago they could have hit the height of the sea salt caramel brownie zeitgeist yeah yeah i think right now it's a little dated we need to find the new thing it's i'm telling you it's gonna be mango mango is the new thing of the mid-2020s great oh yeah it's actually i ate one last night so i think you might be predictions are coming true because right now we're hitting

peak birthday cake yeah that the funfetti aesthetic i think we're i think we're on the way down from that trend because for a while that birthday cake shit was it still is it's fucking everywhere so i think we're late for the birthday cake trend. They don't even have a birthday cake flavor. Do they? Girl Scouts? No. I've always relied on the Girl Scouts to be ahead of the curve.

At this rate, they're behind. We'll get a birthday cake one in two years now. Unfortunate. Wait, why do you think Mango is going to be... What are you seeing out there with mango that you felt you feel so strongly that's the next i don't know i i was i was walking through safeway last night and there's a whole bunch of new new mango flavors and just following propaganda colors like like you know like if you do like a color theory for like

propaganda and memes we're getting a lot of mango-ish colors coming up in like yeah a lot of like sunset type stuff is getting more popular and the kind of like i think like birthday cake's very like 2012 thing they kind of like a darker like coffee so when you were 10 yeah yeah and and the kind of like darker like coffee brownie sea salt caramel thing it's a very like 2017 thing okay and i think we're gonna get some like brighter but like brighter in like a sunset way mango-ish type kind of stuff happening in the next few years for like marketing and for food that's kind of my that's my rough prediction and for all right so we're going analyzing all in on mango futures yeah yeah i'm i'm gonna take all my money out of regeneron and put it all in the big

big mango that's the thing. It's one of the jewel flavors that was considered too good. We gotta pull this from the market, y'all. It's true. Oh my god, I'm just thinking about weed now, right now. Is Mango a big flavor right now?

Mango vibes, tropical fruit vibes strains are coming in because it's weird and hey legalized weed is also having to figure out how to market to new smokers too or new consumers so they are i do see this other thing of like it's very food like the cookies and the skittles there's a lot of combining like food sensation or flavors like with like or at least incorporating that with like the naming of different strains yeah so yeah you know what i'm going all in on mango futures okay not for nothing but i was just listening to a podcast where they were talking

about chris katan being coked up at a child's birthday party so mango mango again i don't know again and that may be a reference a little too old for our guest are you aware of the snl character mango who was like a male exotic dancer kind of nope okay well i think that's probably true of most people damn i'm living in my own bubble for a second jack when you said that that fucked me up because i almost wanted to say i refuse to believe people don't know who Mango is. Yeah. Yeah.

And I just had to shut the fuck up for that. Such as Mango. All right. And then finally, we are going to give out some streaming quarter assignments. Yeah. Producer Ana Hosnia has given us our marching orders to shows. Yeah. We'll probably go with White Lotus first because it's all out at

this point yeah i watched the first episode last night so i'm speaking of being behind the curve i'm i am a like like the girl scout cookie is way behind the curve on this one but man there's something about just like the mixture of performances and the look and the weird vibes and i don't know it ends like not on a cliffhanger and i was like i i need to keep watching this like right now yeah it's yeah it's i mean it's a fun watch i think uh i had an experience we'll talk about in the show but at the very least yeah the it's getting people talking people have many different things i think they wanted from the show other people i, saw the show for what it was. But yeah, I think a really good exploration.

And like whenever I see like Mike White, I'm like, that dude's a writer. I'm like, I just know him as like the dude from Nacho Libre and like always working with Jack Black, like in School of Rock and stuff. But he's he's been around. It turns out so that's that's all he plays a character in natural libra yeah he's an actor yeah yeah he was he's if you if you see his face you're like oh that's right this dude is he's an actor too but i also didn't realize that he was also like a writer and producer on like dawson's creek and shit like that oh yeah i know this dude like what look at that and then reservation dogs were i think three episodes into the first season of that show being released on hulu and that's

i think the best show i've seen in a long time thus far it is have you seen have you heard about reservation dogs garrison i don't think i have yes the Tycho Waititi and what is the other, I want to say the other creator's name. Sterling Harjo? Sterling, Sterling, that's what it is. Oh, yeah. So, yeah, Tycho Waititi and Sterling Harjo. It's so good. It's just so good because this is like what happens when you give people their own writer's room to write about their experiences and make

a show about their experiences through their lens and through without having to put it through some other person's aesthetic and it's it's just so unique and it's like one of those shows too that i watched the first couple episodes i'm like oh my god thank god there's something like new worth getting excited about that is like saying something really interesting but also having fun with it yeah yeah we have a bounty of of uh riches at the moment uh comedically and tv wise yeah and i feel like every one of these kids who plays a character on this is going to be a famous actor like they're all so good and like so just yeah, I feel like they're all, they like discovered a bunch of people. This'll be like a, uh, freaks and geeks type thing where calling it here. Yeah. But again, uh, as I gang check out white Lotus first or not, whatever, but we're going to be talking about it. And I just, again, if you love Jennifer Coolidge, you gotta watch the show. You gotta give it up to the god the goddess jennifer coolidge oh my god i watched it with uh my wife and the just like batting like 900 for laugh out loud lines from jennifer coolidge like everything she said my wife was just dying but then yeah reservation dogs is a must watch

we won't respect you if you don't watch it you gotta watch it that's great yeah exactly or don't hang out with us don't eat lunch with us unless you want to talk to you but yeah that that's coming out episode by episode so maybe we'll probably catch up to it by the time it fully ends yeah yeah garrison such a pleasure as always having you where can people find you and follow you man i can follow my my personal stuff at hungry bow tie on twitter and you can follow you, man? I can follow my personal stuff at Hungry Bowtie on Twitter. And you can follow all of the new shows I'm working on at Cool Zone Media

and the family of podcasts that branch off. Like It Could Happen Here, Behind the Bastards, and other fun things in the works. Yeah, yeah. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying?

There is one funny tweet or some of the work of how feds infiltrate activist spaces. And it's very funny. We got to drag this person for so many good tweets yesterday. Because it's just really funny when Marcus Leninists talk like this. Which I know this is a very esoteric thing. But to me, this

made my day yesterday. So we love to drag people on Twitter. Who doesn't? But to me, this made my day yesterday. So we love to drag people on Twitter. There you go. Who doesn't? Who doesn't? Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying?

Find me Twitter, Instagram at Miles of Grey and also 420dayfiance. If you like 90 Day and Weed, come check out that talk. You know, some lighter fare with Sophie Alexandra. A tweet that I like. Let me see first one is from roast malone underscore uh yeah at roast malone underscore tweeted sticks and stones may break my bones but words will leave me awake at 3 a.m years later wondering what you meant by that who hasn't who hasn't uh marinated on some words from long ago and then the other one is from john lewis at j-a-w-n-l-o-u-i-s has a picture of kirkland's signature tequila añejo from costco and he tweeted sipping this costco migos all week greatigos and Costco. And I just like that together.

Shout out to Costco Migos. The other fun thing on Twitter is watching all the conservatives start to be pro-Taliban. Now, that's the other fun thing. They're like, oh, they're doing all these socially conservative things. I guess we're fighting the wrong side all

these years. And you're like, yeah. It's like, I mean, i saw this coming because this is how you know this is this is how conservative stuff eventually leads to yeah but it is it is just very funny watching them be like you know being so pro-fighting in the middle east for so long and now that we're pulling out they're like oh i guess the taliban does have a few good points actually yeah i mean that's what's so funny we were talking about that uh yesterday i think of just how they probably like if the choice is between siding with people's humanity and being empathetic to like the struggle of someone who's being like you know fleeing taliban rule or just going all in on like people who were doing like aggro shit.

They're like, yeah, yeah, let's just do that. Cause I'm can't extend my, uh, the humanity to those people. So I'm team Taliban.

Now some tweets I've been enjoying a couple of good New York tweets. Kylie Brickman said, I love New York city. Cause near my house, there's sort of like a pile of dead bird. And Alex Cole tweeted, I love New York and just posted a picture of two signs that said get the fucking vaccine wear a fucking mask which you know like mines oh and then jav stas tweeted

telling the song to shut up right before you skip it which i've definitely oh wow my god shut up changing the song you know when i do that when you plug your phone in it starts default playing the ipod songs or like your music app and you're like especially yeah if it's always on the same one i used to have a car that always went to the beginning alphabetically and played a punk by vampire weekend and i was just like oh my god shut up every time shut up. Every time. And I really like that song. Now my kids love that song and want me to play it all the time.

So the world, for whatever reason, is trying to make me hate that song. And, you know, succeeding. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes.

Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode and the tickets to our live show and a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy today? This is a collaboration between a songwriter we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy today? This is a collaboration between a songwriter and producer I like and a band I like.

It's Krungbin and Knowledge. You probably see Knowledge spelled K-N-X-W-L-E-D-G-E. But this is their song, Dearest Alfred, in parentheses, My Joy. And if you like Krungbin, you know they're're a very, like, easy, laid-back band to listen to. But Knowledge is, you know, injecting a little bit of more energy and a little more pop to their mellow way. So it just makes for, like, a really good, easy listening track, you know, for a hot August night. All right. Well, go check that song out.

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