The Daily Zeitgeist - Any Trend But You 5/7: The Idea Of You, Anyone But You, Anne Hathaway

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

In this edition of Any Trend But You, Jack and Miles are joined by super producer Anna Hossnieh to discuss America's favorite genre of film: the Rom-Com (feat. , The Idea of You, and Anyone But You, and Anne Hathaway's shoulders) and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of Any Trend But You. You see how we did that? My name is Jack. That over there, well, that is Miles. And we are thrilled to be joined by super producer anna hosnier hello talking rom-coms today we had a rom-com day i love a rom-com and anna loves a rom-com and anna jack hates a rom jack are you how are you are you ambivalent are you you embrace them you don't i love movies it is that's true a genre of movie that uh i really fuck with um yeah nodding hill i've talked about like my deep love for nodding hill um there's something about mary i guess is not really a rom-com you sound like you're lying about watching rom-coms like Like, yeah, Notting Hill.

Notting Hill is one that I have seen. So, yes. That other Hugh Grant one. Yeah, those are cool. But anyways, Anna, you came to us and you pointed out that there is a rom-com. Boom. And that seems to be the case. that that seems to be the case. Uh,

there, there's been a long trend that we've talked about on the show, uh, of people like not fucking in movies anymore, like not wanting sex, uh, sexual content in movies, uh,

like the, the Avengerfication of movies where everyone's like hot and shredded and, uh, not horny at all and there seems to be a thawing of that trend maybe happening it says just just to frame it because we were talking about like the lack of sexiness i think we were talking about that with chelsea devontas a couple months ago but there is a guardian piece that said since the millennium there is substantially less erotic content on our screens

with changing audience tastes and intimacy coordinators to blame. I don't know about that. Oh, fuck you, the Guardian. That's a weird headline. But anyway, it says that the sex scenes have declined by 40%. And that feels about right

because we have noticed that it's, they're very not horny anymore. But not anymore. They paid some perverted scientists to watch every movie and be like, how many, how many times did you, you know, were you aroused?

Yeah. Not many, not many. But where do we go? Where do we start? Where take us, take us on this journey. Uh,

because we watched a couple movies. We watched two movies specifically because those felt like sort of the most relevant and better offers that we have out there uh considering what's out there yeah so you know i had the opportunity to see the new anne hathaway rom-com the idea of you i got to go to an early screening at amazon which was pretty cool um and i you know what it really took me back to a different era where you know rom-coms were king or excuse me should i say queen queen anyway thank you uh thank you queen um it they took me back to an earlier era also because the main character has a landline in the film. Oh, yeah.

Okay, sure, sure, sure. But I mean, just like the era of like the How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days, 13 Going on 30. These great rom-coms that really, you know, these were like big budget studio movies. I mean, they might not have been the biggest budget, but at least there were studio films that went to theaters. Right. And we got to enjoy them. least there were studio films that went to theaters right and we got to enjoy them it was literally content for women that we got to be like oh fuck yeah kate hudson you fucking abuse matthew mcconaughey you know like that was the era like we loved those right and also here's the thing

they were well made they were funny they were entertaining like sometimes yeah you go back and watch you're like okay this is odd but at the same time you're like but it still kind of hits you know sure yeah it has like 10 things i hate about you that movie iconic yeah yeah it seems like but now we're still in that era too of being like remember much you do about nothing or like remember this taming of the shrew whatever shakespeare thing it has to be based on on Shakespeare or else it is not art. She's All That? Yeah. Right.

Exactly. Exactly. That one's not. Is that one based on? No. She's All That. She's the man is based off Taming of the Shrew. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. She's All That is also pretty good too. Yeah. Take your glasses off. She's All That is also Taming of the Shrew. It's just all. Yeah.

Who knows? Yeah. But anyway. The idea of you is based on a novel that people really enjoyed, and there's a good interview that you sent forward to us that we'll link off to with the

author who points out this crazy double standard where this would be considered a work of literature if the main character was a man but because the main character is a woman people are like oh my god such a cute beach read and like when readers like write to her they're like i don't normally like read this sort of thing um and people called it fan fiction like harry styles fan yeah that's what they kept calling it

and the author was like please stop reducing my work to fanfic when. Yeah. Right. It's not, this isn't a book that's based off Harry Styles. It's, you know, yeah.

It's also more about the woman anyway. It's about like this woman reclaiming her sex. I mean, not even necessarily reclaiming her sexuality because she seems to be a sexual being, but being like, fuck it. I'm going to fuck this pop star.

Who's my age. And it's like yeah yeah okay girl right yeah the author is yeah i mean like she was saying like the the book's author was saying like yeah i was approaching 40 and i was wondering like you know why the fuck like the roles i'm get going being offered are like these like yeah your life's over kind of thing she's like no you can get shit popping after 40 yeah the writer's an expert yeah yeah robin lee robin lee the idea of you uh is the anne hathaway what's the guy's name i've done i don't know he's really everywhere right now and i do actually have to google his name because it's kind of hard it's like something like galzini or something nicholas

galitzine galitzine galitzine galitzine galitzine uh yes he's everywhere at the end of that because that makes it more memorable galitzine nicholas galitzine oh he's everywhere i feel like i've seen him in a bunch of stuff lately yeah he's in bottoms yeah i remember bottoms yeah there's that new show with julianne moore that he's in um but it is very much like they're trying to make fetch happen in a way i mean look look he's whatever he's very handsome he's very like he's like perfectly cast in this um as the like pop star in this band called august moon which i thought was actually a good name for a band i was like oh okay some of the videos were

like a little silly and felt a little bit like oh this is like a movies version of a music video but doesn't it feel like they kind of nailed it because some of the music I was like oh this is kind of a bop I was like who wrote this same people that wrote like One Direction's music

wrote it they actually hired pop star writers which I was like quite impressed by because I was like oh that's why these like hit in a way yeah because i'm listening to real pop music and it's been a while since i've listened to like boy bands music like i missed the whole one direction train like i only recently discovered harry styles sorry i'm a loser um and all of a sudden i'm like oh pop music's fun yeah yeah What have I been doing all this time? Listening to James Blake and crying in my fucking RAV4? Like, what are we doing here?

I could have the saccharine hits of Pop Blake crying in my RAV4. I mean, seriously, I was like, I should be happier. Also, it's probably like the Will Butrin hitting and it's being like, girl, you like pop music.

Like, come on, embrace it. Embrace it. Will Butrin. Tagline, girl, you like pop music like come on embrace it embrace it girl you actually enjoy things and i'm like stop denying it right you're not this dark girl yeah hop on in but yeah just so people know uh the the the for people who don't know just briefly it's about a 40 year old mom who's divorced who who has a chance encounter with this pop megastar, and then a romance goes from there and complicates things, because this guy is a member of a band, of her daughter's favorite band,

and that causes some little intergenerational complications. She just happens to be there, because it's like Coachella, she needs to take her teenage daughter to Coachella, accidentally tries to pee in what she thinks is the bathroom but it's actually his trailer they have a chance encounter and are a smitten yeah yeah love it he's 24 he becomes like obsessed with her and like comes and like seeks her out and then at first she's like what the fuck and then i do appreciate she takes a

moment to watch this really terrible music video they do, which is them dressed up as schoolboys and just goes like, fuck it, I'm flying to New York to fuck this little boy. I'm fucking going. And you're in that moment like, yes. Yes, girl.

Yeah, go ahead. It just came out. You can stream it on Prime right now. It's really good. My big thing, I won't say it's a mistake, but I am curious if they had cast the boy band role as

one Harrison Stiles, because I think they're claiming in interviews. No, not. The author was like, stop saying it's not well the author was like stop saying it's fan fiction about harry styles so it wasn't a possibility i just think he's like i don't know i the the lead actor was like solid but i didn't think he was like incredible and um the just like raises the question you're kind of like when i tell people what it's about i'm like yeah it's kind of the

idea of like what if somebody like you know who's uh in their late 30s fell in love with harry styles it's kind of it's it's stella got her groove back adjacent i would say yeah i mean but but just with more glamour that i think they fucked up is like this should have been released in theaters like i can't believe they didn't release this in theaters. Holy shit. And we'll talk about anyone, but you, the other rom-com that we watched,

but that thing fucking crushed it, like destroyed at the theater. And it's, uh, Oh, anyone, Oh, anyone,

but you, anyone, but you destroy it. Like it made like hundreds of millions of dollars. Yeah. Like why? They bought MGM trend, right? anyone but you destroyed it made like hundreds of millions of dollars that's a no and again it had a TikTok trend wait what was the TikTok trend for anyone but you? it's like people dancing at the end

to that Natasha Benningfield song unwritten I mean like here's the thing if you pop up on a TikTok trend you're set yeah that's true yeah so I mean I for me like I didn't think the movie was necessarily like groundbreaking or anything like that but it felt i was nostalgic for it because it felt like peak late 90s 2000s

rom-com where you're like yes this is a fun story and you're like oh yeah oh sex like it had all of those things uh and for that i was like they're hitting something there because that is like a genre of movies just like very's just easy to watch. It's fucking mindless. There's a little bit of titillation and some fantasy world shit where it's like, yeah, what would that be like if you get to go around Europe doing it up glamorous and live in this celebrity adjacent lifestyle? I'd say nine out of 10 on the titillation. Titillation. How would you, yeah, how are we scoring

the sex scenes? Do we, they were fine. I mean, there weren't a lot. Yeah. Were there? There was, like, a lot of making out scene. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot of making out. I mean, then, yeah, but then there's, like, some cheesy stuff. I love the part, like, after they're, like, having sex, like, the next scene is, like, this dude's playing acoustic guitar in bed.

In bed. Come on, man. That's the vibe, baby. No, I just started doing that now. Every time I'm in bed, I just pull out the acoustic guitar. Unfortunately, I can't play it. So you just tune it? My wife has kicked me out of the bedroom.

No. You have to keep tuning that in bed. He's a rock star, baby. He's got to write a song about this moment yeah yeah you know i really enjoyed it i thought like miles said it took me back to a different era i'm like here's the thing and hathaway honey yeah still hey yo first of all no of course he wants to fuck and hathaway right yeah. Yeah. I'm like, yeah. The shoulders alone, girl.

I was seeing so much Anne Hathaway shoulder. I was like, am I trying to fuck Anne Hathaway? Right. It was incredible work. Well, Buterin, answer this question. Am I? Fuck Anne Hathaway? I think I am. Well, Buterin gave you like a digital assistant, like Siri.

You're like, well, well butrin do i want to fuck anna hathaway yes you do she's like yes girl you want to do everything she's smoking there's that one scene though it's so funny when she's like going they're like hanging out at a pool and she notices like the other girlfriends of the other band members and she sort of like gets self-conscious and you're like anna hathaway you're like fucking hot yeah we've already seen that your body is incredible like in the previous scene like you're at the beach just like incredible body and then she has to be like oh no i'm gonna look bad next to these people who aren't next to like 20 year olds yeah these people who don't happen to be the seven people who are as beautiful as me in the world so none of this makes any sense i will put i will don a denim caftan to the yeah to the that was funny though

i like uh uh the denim caftan i think the other thing though too like yeah despite you know like i said it's not nothing groundbreaking or anything like that but it's still it has that familiar the thing i love like because her majesty and i were watching it whenever we watch these we always go all right what's the second act was going going to be? Is it a jealous, is it a jealous person in the orbit? Is it, are we finding out

he's a fuck boy? And they kind of did a good version of like blending sort of those two things. Yeah. And that's what I like too. Like,

I don't necessarily, that's what I'm saying. Like, I don't necessarily need anything groundbreaking aside from maybe like more diverse cast, you know,

which maybe we can get to in talking about like sort of how this story even came to be. But yeah, other than that, like it, it, like it's really no notes as like a rom-com. It's just,

it's, it's a solid, it was kind of a good, like a issue that pops up in that he like tends to date older women. And so like, yeah, he kind of has a type, which I feel like would be a problem

and like that's a thing that i think i've seen on like reddit am i the asshole or like something like that where someone's like yeah like i just found out my boyfriend like has dated five women who look exactly like me like you know what i mean like that's got to be a weird kind of dehumanizing feeling yeah i guess but at the same time it's like and you probably date a bunch of dudes that look like you know like yeah exactly we all have what we like it's like there's nothing it doesn't make your relationship any less than it just sort of means like okay well you found the person that you like the most out of your time yeah yeah it is what it is yes i'm pen palling we can't change who we are as humans. Yeah, I'm pen-palling with another woman on death row.

Okay, so what? Yes, well, literally, exactly. I know what I like. I know what I like. But yeah, it's interesting. So the writer, Robyn, is it Robyn Lee? I think so. Robyn Lee, maybe?

It's R-B-I-N-N-E. We'll call her Robyn or Robyn, I'm sorry. It was talking, you know, she wrote a previous book and that had sort of like, you know, she wrote a previous book and that had, uh, sort of like, you know, black protagonists in it.

And she had trouble getting interest in that one. And then, so when she started writing this, she did the thing, unfortunately that some people have to do, especially people of color in this industry would like, I wrote a story about white people. And they're like,

yes, Robyn, thank you. We were waiting for you to make that decision yeah yeah we didn't want to give that note but yeah i mean like but that's what i'm hoping like with this obviously maybe getting more momentum in the genre we can begin to see something different because damn like this movie would have been interesting if it was just any other combination of characters other than anne hathaway and this Galazzini guy.

Uh, but again, we just don't know his name. Galazzini. He is, uh, an Italian space traveler. Galazzini. Galazzine.

Galazzine. Galazzine. Galazzini. Yeah. Nicholas Galazzine. Okay. We do know his name. Look,

I want to get invited to more screenings. So like, okay. Oh my God. We love it. this movie actually sucks but anna told us that we had to come on and say nice things so she could keep going to the movie i texted you guys you were like i have to come on this is yeah yeah you did you're like we gotta talk about it i've never been hornier it's a fucking hit and then hr called me which was sort of a whole thing and i had to sort of get through that before i

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I do have to talk about her ex-husband is played by Dan from Veep, the real asshole, young operative. And in this one, his name is Daniel. I was like, man, this guy

has very specific range. His name must be Dan, and it's not. He just is typecast as a guy named Dan. What's his name? Reed. Reed Scott. Reed Scott.

He absolutely nails this toxic masculine asshole guy the husband who's like hey I know I left you for a younger woman but come over for dinner oh my god have you heard of pickleball get the fuck out of my face bro

I'm miserable my favorite part that I laugh the most is when his new partner Eva or whatever when he goes to confront her and he's got like the new car for the daughter, she's like, hey, like I'm leaving him. She's like, oh, okay. And she's like, do you want to get Thai food sometime?

And Anthony's like, absolutely not. It's like, okay, thank you. Like that's an L. At that moment, I was like, what? Yeah. It's such a weird exchange. She's like, hey, I just got it, girl. It's just kind of like, good for you fucking that young boy, girl.

Yeah. Right. But everybody is like that. Everyone is. That part is realistic. such a weird exchange like hey i got it girl good for you fucking that young boy girl yeah right but everybody is like that everyone is that that part is realistic like a lot of people are just like hell hey high five yeah yeah that woman she's like that was my daughter's favorite person she had a crush on him she's just how was it how was it so i thought they were gonna dig more into like the sinister side and i'm glad they didn't like i think they nailed it but have you read like this shit about uh like k-pop boy bands and like how closely they control who they're allowed to date and oh yeah yeah right yeah that shit for sure wild groups yeah that's not that's like entertainment media and marketing and branding but i mean like here's the thing

that's like a very dark side of the industry where certain people are put together to create a certain buzz in order to like blow them up you know like that's a very normal thing in our industry like people are just dating to be like we're dating yeah yeah yeah i think it would have been um a little bit more realistic if like at least 30 of the headlines were just about how incredibly beautiful Anne Hathaway was. Because all the headlines were like, Cougar! Yoko Ono 2.0? No way! Yeah, Yoko.

It's like, no, the thing that's remarkable about her is how amazingly beautiful she is. Like, that would be the thing that most people would be like. Yeah, they'd be like, who is she? Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. She's a regular person? Yeah, yeah. And she's an Arsenal fan, so shout out to her. I gotta say. I think they both are. Wasn wasn't that thing i saw an interview where they were both yeah they were doing a press for it and they're like arsenal scored she's like who trust hard oh my god i think he probably got her into because he's british i assume

yeah i don't know where else she would have discovered it maybe she got him into it oh i really got it uh okay um anyone never even heard of footy before but do uh i will say really quickly uh so obviously spoiler alert we kind of been spoiling the movie but go i would assume you've watched this movie if not skip like ahead you know 30 seconds but um the end where he comes back five years later let's talk about that facial hair. That fake ass facial hair he had on his chin. I was like, that looked like that scene in Jackass where everyone shaves their armpit hair

and their pubes for danger, Aaron, and he glues it to his face. I literally said, you just put some pubes on this poor boy's face. That shit was wild. I was like, this... We were immediately like okay so a fake some fake chin hair and longer hair

make some five years yeah whatever we'll buy it or yeah he did look five years older though to me unless they don't zoom in the second they revealed that hair I was like oh the one thing is that I thought they should have you know shot of him he's there for her reverse shot of her

and like she sees the facial hair and you kind of see her like gag a little bit. Yeah. Sorry. Good to see you. But what the fuck is on your face? And then cut to credits. Yeah. It's funny because I guess in the book, they don't rekindle.

No, they don't end up together. I heard the book's really dark. I'm going to read it. Yeah. And in a way, I kind of would have been down for that too of just being like yeah that was fun and that's kind of how life is but i get it we also need to end on a happy ending yeah well you know it's a michael showalter directed project and i don't think he was trying to make like a dark sort of realistic take on what a relationship like that could be like yeah

are there rom-coms where the people don't end up together? I'm trying to think. Rom-coms where they don't end up together. Oh yeah, big. Is that a rom-com? Kind of a weird one, yeah. Oh, 500 Days of Summer, that's right.

14 great romantic movies where the lovers don't end up together. Don't call them lovers collider.com. You fucking freaks. Call me by your name. My best friend's wedding. Yeah, I guess they're not. Oh, my best friend's wedding. That's so brutal, dude. Her.

Because her don't exist. Lost in translation. Also high on the titillation. Atonement? Alright, they have a very loose definition of what a rom-com is. Anyone but you. This is the Sidney Sweeney vehicle. Another example of a great rom-com that's dropped this year.

One of the things I do want to say about rom-coms is I think us supporting these movies is important because the more we watch them and show these studios and executives that we're enjoying these, the more likely they're going to make more and potentially actually make really really great ones because they're open to the idea of reading people's scripts and taking them on so like i i fully support this rom-com boom like the the don't

call it a comeback but it is a comeback but i want us to see more rom-coms i want us to see more content made for women because you know we've seen in the last couple years like wherever you'd want to go see a rom-com you'd have to go to like the hallmark channel and it wouldn't be like the greatest written thing but that's just where we kept finding ourselves you know and it's like doing some weird conservative shit you're like what yeah and it's like i think you know the world views content made for women is less than and it's like a horrible sort of very real thing that like and you know i i think also the boom in sort of like fantasy romance books written by like sarah j mass or like the fourth

wing or rebecca yaros yeah all these books that are coming out that are very popular show us that like this content will sell this content will be watched like you just need to give it the chance and make it and we will come a knocking okay this is kind of the thing though too it's like get off the fucking big budget bullshit like they're really obsessed with ip franchises make rom-coms do these fucking things that don't take up 700 million dollars in budget and just like play small ball with it and you're gonna find you're gonna get more hits than fucking just being betting the farm on some flying fuck with a cape movie yeah we were talking yesterday about how like the lesson learned from you know they're they're out of avengers like the avengers gun

is out of bullets they're they're like we're kind of fucked on this one other than you know a handful of characters so we have to like make a new sort of blockbuster that we can churn out and their takeaway from barbie was like what if we like made a movie with like ken in it as an action hero because they like opened fall like i think fall guy looks fun but like it just it does feel like their takeaway from this movie that's like about feminism is like let's let's make Ken they want an action hero

yeah right what about that Ken guy yeah they're truly truly fucked up with because it's a by the way like for people voting with their wallets on rom-coms anyone but you mission accomplished guys the the thing was a massive international hit to the point that i truly feel like the makers of the idea of you are probably like what did we do how did we not get

this in theaters right i agree it should have been in theaters and anyone but you is i thought really enjoyable film it's funny it's silly the characters there's a great australian character who look we love a crazy australian bro who's just like a good time guy but everyone's threatened by him because of how handsome he is yeah and how fast he swims dude the swimming scene was my favorite joke in the movie. Like a fucking shark. It was so goddamn fast. You're like, who is this fucking guy? He just came out of nowhere.

He's so funny. Just nude half the time. Just doesn't give a fuck. Really great character. And you know what? I really enjoyed Glenn Powell and Sidney Sweeney in these roles. Yeah, more of that. Give us these big budget rom-coms. I really enjoyed Glenn Powell and Sidney Sweeney in these roles. Yeah. More of that.

Give us these big budget rom-coms. Like, put these, like, great actors in, you know, like, that are coming up. Put them in these movies. I'll watch them. Yeah. Again, this is an, it was just another easy, easy sipper. You know, you just watch it. Nothing too crazy.

There's some laughs in there there's some good like every i think that was the one thing i i liked that anyone but you at least stayed faithful to like at least having some funnier comic relief characters on the fringes yeah like that's where idea of you felt a little more straightforward like romance like a romantic flick with with comedic sort of you know comic relief here and there but this one definitely had like you know fun bits and shit with like that king's kingman spider or whatever that giant fucking spider was and she's like looking up his ass to see if there's more spiders like yeah it just visually didn't make sense but yeah it was just a funny there's just some good

funny shit in there and i yeah it it did the genre did the genre right i think also yeah that all went down while they were just looking at a koala yeah just skipping out on the koala like okay yeah even get a little dermot moroni it had a little bit of dude dermot flashback baby yeah for real well he was in my best friend's wedding yes he the husband and or the love interest in My Best Friend's Wedding? He's the best friend, isn't he? Yeah, I think that's right. Dermot Milrone.

I can't remember. Yeah. Those were the days. Yeah, those were the days. But yeah, again, like another movie. Those were the days. Just super, like again, they're like, it's much ado about nothing, but it's about a destination wedding.

And then that's all you kind of need to, again, make a thing that reminds you of like peak romance, comedy, whatever from yesteryear. I don't know if you guys have watched Runaway Bride recently, but God damn, Julia Roberts and Richard Gere. What a fucking oof. Yeah. Didn't they try and put them back together in a thing recently? And it's just an epic failure because they're like no i thought it was julia roberts ticket to paradise julia roberts and george clooney were together which i heard that was good i should watch that oh okay well there

it is yeah i again yeah good stuff i can't not i i'm not i don't watch rom-coms too deeply to have like too much of a critical analysis it's more like like a thing that, can you put it on? Does it keep your attention and you're not on your phone? And if yes, then success. Yeah, does it make you feel like... It was way hornier. Anyone But You was way hornier than Idea Of You. I would say that.

Anyone But You. Anyone But You. It was hornier than the Idea Of You. Yeah, they had more like, it felt like more sort of sex scenes of yesteryear kind of shit. Like back when it was like peak horny in a romance comedy or romance. But yeah. Have you seen Challengers on it? Yeah, I have.

Is that one horny? It's pretty horny, yeah. Okay. Oh. I saw a headline, but it was, i think it was like on the front page of drudge maybe but it was like zendaya in the raunchiest movie ever or something like that i was like what the fuck like ever yeah but i don't know if they were just saying you know whatever his name is movie so it's more of like an art film about tennis that also includes like a threesome

energy yeah i think people are getting back into the idea of sex in movies for... But it's not even like overt sex. It's all very much like hinted at, there's like tension. And like, you don't ever see these people fucking. Yeah, they give each other a kiss and then the camera pans over to the curtains, like in the 1930s, the pre-Hays Code sex scenes.

Basically, but I mean, I think that almost, that does, like, I don't need to see full-on intercourse. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah. Like, even the hint of it does its job. Yeah, you want it to seem realistic, like, in a way where it's like,

people don't talk to each other like that. Sometimes less is more uh in that sense for sure but yeah i definitely i want to see challengers because you said that it's trent resner scored it right bro it is it is so heavy on the techno every five minutes this whole show this whole movie it's like they're having a conversation right audio they stop talking audio cuts out techno techno techno techno cuts out it's quiet intense staring techno cuts back in it's like you're the whole movie you're i mean i saw it in theaters so maybe it was just like very loud and like in my business but like i was

stressed right damn i was stressed watching that movie because what the last time in dance no because i just there was the techno was like laced over tennis and you're like oh my god yeah right so there's all this other backstory behind everything that's going on and you're just like yeah well and when with them too like trent when trent reiser and atticus ross do something like it's gonna have that electronic feel but there's such a undercurrent of tension like think of the past shit they did like the Watchmen soundtrack or

like the social network. It's never just like oh this is fun. It's always like this is fucking creepy. Yeah right. Getting a social network you're like what the fuck is about to happen man. Yeah exactly. I also remember just like nine inch nails yeah you remember like nine inch nails remember that that movie that band

that's how long the nails were they did to jesus so that's why it's called that i remember that why that's what i heard in middle school middle I never fact checked it. Oh, that feels like such a middle school thing. Yeah, isn't that a middle school thing? That's how long they did the nails was to Jesus' hands. And that's like the edgiest shit that you can say to kids who have been to Sunday school. Like, what? They would name it like that? Oh my God, why would he name it that? That's so scary. Okay, no, it says he chose the name Nine Inch Nails because it abbreviated easily rather than

any literal meaning. Oh, okay. He's just like, N-I-N, baby. N-I-N. Nine Inch Nails. Nothing to talk about. Well, Anna, I do appreciate you coming on. I do appreciate you recommending these movies.

It's been a while since I watched a rom-com. They were both very enjoyable. You don't miss. It's like B-movie, but like a very well competently executed B-movie rom-com. The Idea of You aspires to more.

I think Execute. Both really fun. I do take this as a victory in our ongoing conversation about movies versus TV. Movies are the superior medium, and you seem to be admitting that. So thank you for coming on and doing that.

Yeah, that's crazy what you just did right there, and that's sort of what's wrong with this country. Great movie. I recommend you all watch it check out anyone but you and the idea of you both are out i think anyone but you's on netflix the idea of you's on amazon prime and also go watch those other rom-coms because i was like looking up rom-coms on netflix and i was like there is so many go watch lindsey lohan in that weird ass irish wish is trash but

you have fun enjoy it so trash like you just have fun tearing it down yeah yeah just go enjoy these movies for what they are and like they'll make more content for us like that if we can show them that it's worth a damn time and we also just need comedies too that's another genre that is fully dying out too yeah it's so wild uh but yeah but at least keep them horny please keep them horny i Please keep them horny. I was shocked by how well anyone but you did though. That's Baphobia. It did officially. I've been

consulting with our producers and we can officially say it did Baphobia. Okay. Damn, almost 220 million. Yeah. For a movie that I would say doesn't deserve that much. It's good, but it's not like yo this is amazing it's like very by the books rom-com but i think that's what yeah like that

that would if i was a hollywood movie producer maybe the lesson from barbie would be like more movies that aren't that don't look down on women as an audience uh and in fact are made by them i don't know crazy idea um that's wild that's all right i went too far i'm sorry that's too crazy anna where can people find you follow you all that good stuff um i'm at selling hostnia on instagram come follow me there i'm that is where I do most of my creative work now. Yeah, yeah. Miles Gray. Just, you know,

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