The Daily Zeitgeist - Apocalypse 2050, PUNK’D? Again? 6.5.19

Episode Date: June 5, 2019

In episode 406, Jack and Miles are joined by poet Melissa Lozada-Oliva to discuss Ivanka and John Bolton being booed in the UK, if internet shutdowns are safe, Nancy Pelosi playing 9-D chess, if town halls are helping the 2020 presidential candidates, MTV bringing back Singled Out and Punk'd, a new study about the end of civilization due to climate change, concerning YouTube algorithms, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. The most interesting moment of the Trump-May news conference happened before it began2. Internet shutdowns don't make anyone safer3. Nancy Pelosi Is Smart, Part 8954. Are all of these town halls actually making any difference in 2020 polling?5. MTV Is Rebooting Punk'd and Singled Out6. Quibi: The next Go90, or streaming unicorn?7. New Report Suggests ‘High Likelihood of Human Civilization Coming to an End’ in 20508. This graphic explains why 2 degrees of global warming will be way worse than 1.59. Framing Climate Change as a 'National Security Threat' Is Dangerous10. On YouTube’s Digital Playground, an Open Gate for Pedophiles11. WATCH: Shy Girls - Drain Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 85, Episode 3 of Your Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially, off the top, fuck Coke Industries and fuck Fox News. Fuck off. It's Wednesday, June 5th, 2019. It's Wednesday, June 5th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jackseet Driver or Arrinkinkin Jackseet Freestyle. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Ray!

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And I hit the ground running Didn't make sense No Mexi melts But your tummy gets full Better loosen your belts So much to do, so much to see So what's up with Miles' ED? You'll never know if you don't go

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Honestly, I only know half of the first verse. Oh, that was impressive. My AKA came from Rich Jefferson at Device. No, not Richard Jefferson, the former Nets player. Dick Jefferson. Yeah. This is Dick Jefferson, not Richard Jefferson. Yeah, they even got your habit of calling your stomach tummy.

My tummy. Yep, my tummy. Keep my tummy full. My tum-tum-a-roo. Well, that was great. Thank you so much. And very extensive AKA. tummy for my tum tum maru uh well that was great thank you so much very uh extensive uh well we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the talented melissa losado oliva

hi i said losada oliva losado or lasada thank you thank you for the effort. Yeah. How are you doing? I'm doing good. Great. You are? Yeah. I'm excited to be here.

You're not from LA, right? No. I live in New York. Yay. How are you liking LA? It's cool. I am confused by the car culture, I think. What do you mean?

Like all the lowriders? Yeah. All the... All the bird scooters? Right, right. Those are scooters. Those are not cars. I guess like I was walking down a sidewalk and then it slowly became like not a sidewalk

and then I was almost hit by a truck. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because we have an aggressive fuck pedestrians sort of agenda based on the city planning. Yeah, basically. I also don't know how to drive. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. You're good though.

You know, you have a good tour guide with you. Yeah, I do. Yeah. So you're Jamie Loftus's good friend. Yes. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're good, though. You have a good tour guide with you. Yeah, I do. Yeah. So you're Jamie Loftus's good friend. Yes, she's my pal. She's your pal? Yeah. She's been showing you around LA?

Yeah, she's the best. Wait, so there was a sidewalk that just ended? That happens a lot. Like went into a- Like the Book of Poems. Yeah. Yeah. Shel Silverstein.

It became really skinny, I guess. Right. And then it's like the curb. And then it's filled with sand. Yeah. Right. And then it's like the curb. And then it's filled with sand. Yeah. Right. And then it was like, yeah. I'm tightrope walking on a concrete strip.

I thought you were going to say the sidewalk turned into a car. Oh, you're like, what the fuck? Yeah, like maybe there's some confusion around these cars. You're a poet. So I could see like a magical realism thing happening. I don't know. Oh, right. Yeah.

The sidewalk turned into a car and then my memories from childhood wow my father that's right is this did you just make that up on the spot oh yeah off the dome wow you should go on deaf poetry slam yeah god is that still on oh did people ever tell you that um you should go on deaf poetry i used to watch those videos i got so excited about them um and now watching them, I'm like, what was this? Yeah. Do people still get down like that? Because you're a poet. Yeah.

And don't you know it? But how big is slam poetry now? You know, there are pockets still. It kind of imploded like most art communities do. Yeah, there are not any competitions this year or whatever. I think the dpl like the the poetry lounge in la like still is a thing oh hell yeah pretty cool yeah so we should go there you should go there and when i go there i don't mean here at a t i'm there take my hat off i have

no hair wow my child some say it could be my air. Like I breathe. All the best poems rhyme. I've always said that. Dr. Seuss, Shel Silverstein sometimes. That's what my English teacher told me. If it doesn't rhyme, it's not a poem. What is the most mainstream thing?

Is Deaf Poetry Jam the most mainstream? Deaf Poetry Slam. Deaf Poetry Slam? I think it was Jam, yeah. Oh, fuck. I don't know. I'm fucked up. My tattoo is wrong.

Because that's where my mind immediately goes is Deaf Poetry Slam. Is that like the most mainstream that like poetry has broken through in the past? I guess like the most mainstream would be like button poetry. Have you heard of it? Button, button. Who's got the button? Yeah. It's just a man with

a bunch of buttons and it's like they like would go to like poetry slams and like record poets and then like make viral videos out of that oh like animate them or something yeah and then maybe like three minutes of a thing so that'd be like the i guess like the most mainstream thing i don't know yeah deaf poetry jam is like i think it dead i. I think it's like they're trying to bring it back. I don't know. Yeah. Well, you know, on to the next thing. On to the next thing. Well, we're thrilled to have you and we're going to get

to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we are going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today such as the fact that Punk'd and Singled Out are coming back on mobile. on an app you can't download yet called Quibi. Or Quibi.

Quibi. Quibi. Whatever. Easy name. And if you search the name of it right now, you get the Bible quiz. Oh, really? Yeah, in the app store. Oh, like Quibi, like quiz Bible?

Yes. Wow. That is correct. I would do pretty good on that, I think. We're going to just check in with the president on his trip to the UK, how he's dealing with the feedback he's getting from the British people. We're going to talk about the government being able to shut down the internet or governments around the world being able to shut down the internet. We're going to talk about whether Nancy Pelosi is playing 9D chess or 10D chess.

We're going to talk about whether town halls, these televised town halls that Democratic candidates are doing, whether they're actually affecting whether they have a shot at the nomination or not. There's a new report out that says civilization is going to collapse by 2050. We're going to talk about that. Oh, good. So no need to deal with climate change. Yeah. No, it's because of climate change. Yeah, but I'm saying because it's

going to end, who cares? But I feel like that's the effect of all these articles have on people. Really? I don't know, man. My sense of creeping nihilism is just like... Not that me personally feel like there's nothing to do with it, but I feel like there is a subconscious effect if you're constantly being fed a diet of like, the world's going to end. Yeah, I know.

Yeah, you said that and I was like, oh, thank God. Right, in a way. I felt a relief. Yeah, but it's going to be really bad. Like, it's not going to be like. It's not going to be tight? Yeah, it's not going to be tight. Or it's not going to be like an asteroid comes and like takes us out one day. It's going to be like. It's not going to be tight? Yeah, it's not going to be tight. Or it's not going to be like an asteroid comes and takes us out one day.

It's going to be like, you know. Yeah, resources dwindle. Like the town. Not the town. The road? The town. The world is going to end. It's just going to be Boston left.

South Boston. The Southeast Inherit the Earth. Yeah, it's going to be like the road. Which is where my mind immediately goes anytime people are talking about the effects of climate change. Because I have kids now, so I'm like, oh, fucker. That's what I say.

Mother fucker. Mother fuck. These kids are going to slow me down in the apocalypse. That's exactly right. Daddy, daddy. I gotta poo. We're running from marauders. We gotta get to Boston. We gotta get to Southie, the one bastion of hope.

And then finally... Just thinking of the gatekeepers trying to enter South Boston. Hey, what are you looking for, pal? Just like winning. Even your kids are like, please, we need food. Patriots for life or what? Who's the greatest socks player? Oh, shit.

Name three Bruins. You know Bill Buckner was like a great baseball player? The dude who let the ball go through his legs? Really? Yeah, he was like a really great hitter. Oh, but we only know him as Mr. Whoopsie Daisy. Mr. Whoopsie Daisy. And see, and that would get you

access to the kingdom. Right. That's true. He got above rap. Because the post-apocalypse is going to be like the town. And also like the town in that there are no helicopters because if you introduce police helicopters to that movie,

it doesn't make any sense anymore. They're like, we gotta get to the bridge! The cops can't follow us into South East. It's not like they have things that fly. Right. And also we're going to talk about a weird YouTube trend. Just weird. But first, Melissa, we like to ask our guest, what is

something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay, so two things interrelated. The first is I was on a plane and i searched can you bring vitamins on a plane and that was uh followed up by acute radiation poisoning um yeah i've been watching chernobyl yeah me too yeah and then i was like will these vitamins get radiation and then will i get radiation poisoning yeah. And that's not true, right? It's not.

I mean, I don't know. I never found out. You know that flight attendants get radiation poisoning just from being closer to the sun. Yeah. Really? Yeah, just from being above the clouds all that time. They slowly get radiation poisoning

and are like a certain percent, like a small percentage, but enough for it to be noticeable statistically oh then they're more likely to die from certain types of cancer because they're closer to the sun um wow yeah a lesson to us all yeah by the way that was my my response to uh you saying you watched chernobyl was the most cheerful anybody's been about that show i know that's so weird you said that because everyone's like,

when they tell me to watch it, like, fucking hell, dude, just watch it. It's so good, but it's so fucked up. It's really fucked up. I was listening to like the accompanying podcast. Me too. Again, yeah. High five, sister.

Radiation poison for life. Radiation poison. It's all real. Soviet Union. Yeah. I talked about this on Ethnically Ambiguous yesterday, too. Yeah, I'm obsessed with it. Yeah. Yeah.

The Chernobyl podcast, if you're going to listen to another podcast, which I don't recommend. But if you have to, that's a good one to check out if you're watching that show. What is something you think is overrated? Something I think is overrated lately is like inspirational language, especially like coming out of the poetry world, everything is like, do you believe in yourself?

Are you a woman of the world? I was just at this conference and this woman was like, everybody stand up, close your eyes and think of a woman who was dead and talk to this woman do you talk to this woman the way you talk to yourself and then she was like i tricked you into loving yourself um it was just like creepy and scary um and yeah i feel like it's just like

dead dead to me the same thing is like yeah wait so what do you mean this is like a wave right now it's like a trend in that in the in the poetry world of like being mad inspirational yeah being like mad inspirational or like the same thing where it's like it's just like empty words like saying like representation matters when really you're just saying like oh i hope people who look like me are telling me to shop at target you know right it's like yeah performative wokeness right engage sequence what yeah that's miles's new character woke bot woke bot oh that's good um initiate virtue signaling sequence but yeah i i do feel like america especially gets on this sort of positivity for the sake of positivity kick whereas other countries are like I'm sad today

and that's because something is making me sad and that is appropriate to the situation sometimes. Or just addressing the conditions that are bringing about these things where it's like oh no no don't worry about your debt just fucking read this t-shirt. Right.

It's like unhelpful. Yeah. You can't have happiness without i um i don't know that just sounds like some shit without i or it's just happiness what is that even i-ness man think about it it's like your i-ness wow wow dang Ines. Wow. Wow. Dang. Shit. You guys are both poets. Pinus. Thank you. Dang. Are there any,

because I feel like inspirational poetry has a huge presence on Instagram. Are there any poets who are popular on Instagram that you actually respect? Or any good uses of poetry on Instagram or social media? Yeah. I mean, I think like Instagram is cool and that it's like a good way to get yourself out there and like get your work out there. Um, and whatever in the capitalist engine, it's hard to, it's hard to do that. Um, so it's a good way to hustle, I guess. Yeah.

But because of that, it kind of like, you know, there's like a weird commodification of like clicks and likes. Right. And it begins to pervert the art a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But yeah, I would say there's like, you know, Jessica Salgado. She's L.A. based.

She's pretty cool. Okay. Yeah. And she puts her poetry on Instagram. Yeah, all of her stuff on Instagram, yeah. What is something you think is underrated? I was thinking, I really, I don't know how, okay, like, would you rather questions, I think, are underrated.

Oh, wow. Yeah. Shit. Yeah, I don't know. Like at parties? Yeah. I think you just, like, find out a lot about a person. Yeah. Shit. Yeah. I don't know. Like at parties? Yeah. I think you just like find out a lot about a person.

Yeah. Hit me with one. Okay. Okay. Would you rather. Okay. This one's like weird. This one's like extremely involved. Would you rather have no dietary issues at all, but just poop for one day the whole day.

You poop all day, but the poop slides out of your neck. Wow. Or you have no dietary, but you don't have any dietary issues. You just don't have to poop ever again. And that's one day a year? Yeah, it's one day a year. You schedule it one day a year. All day and the poop comes out of your neck.

And is that the only time you poop or do you poop regularly the rest of the year? You don't poop at all. You don't poop at all. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay, or? Or not. Or you just remain the same, same dietary issues, same whatever.

Wow. I realize my gastrointestinal privilege because I typically don't have dietary issues. Well, actually, I can't eat pizza when I'm drinking because the acidity in tomato sauce makes me vomit. Oh, wow. So if you ever want to poison me, offer me pizza when I'm drunk. Wow. Now I know so much about you. Yeah.

You know what part of me, too? I like the most revealing thing about you. I like to poop. I like to poop. I know. I like to poop, too. Yeah. So one day, like, out my neck?

No. Wait. I need my 30 minutes every day watching YouTube clips. When you say out of your neck, it's coming up your... Like a gill? Through your mouth? Like a shit gill? Or do you have shit gills? I guess it's a shit gill. Someone asked me this.

I don't know the science of it. Would you do it? Yeah, I'm doing that one. Wow, really? Yeah, I would love to do that. Full day of shit gilling? Full day of shit gilling that you can schedule. It doesn't just happen out of nowhere. Because then think about that. Like you never have like, you never have a situation where you're like, uh oh.

Then I wouldn't mind camping at Coachella. Right. Yeah. Right. Okay. But here's the thing. What if like something important was coming up, like someone's wedding, but you had already like scheduled your shit day?

Yeah. But I mean. Yeah. I just missed that wedding. Yeah yeah i don't like weddings or you'd be like guys i'm gonna be in the bathroom the whole time i am here yeah just do not come in here right because you'll see something that will actually completely change your world that would be amazing yeah see make it happen i like this that's that was a good brain exercise. Right. Yeah, exactly. Like what limits will you go to?

Yeah. But I think generally I would have a bias towards always like doing something weird to change my life just because like, I don't know. I'm a seeker, you know. You're a seeker. I mean, not to just to take this completely somewhere else, but there's a website called Conversation Starters World, and they have a collection of the best would you rather questions. Oh, really? I would like to read you one. Are they good?

Oh, my God. Would you rather lose the ability to read or lose the ability to speak? Oh, my God. We just heard from the booth. From the booth, there was a groan, but I think he scheduled his shit deal today. Yeah, he's having a digestive issue. He's having a shit day. So for you, lose the ability to read or lose the ability to speak?

Oh my God. To learn? You end your ability to learn or you end your ability to express yourself, basically? Can I, like, is writing, like, can I, like, communicate? No. I can't communicate at all? If you can't read, then you definitely can't write. But if I can't speak, can I still write still write no you can speak and then maybe someone can dictate

the words if you want to hack this would you rather that's the thing i think you can hack this because i think the uh text to speech applications are going to be getting better and better so now you're going to have the uh robot thing but you cannot live in the modern world without being able to read okay how about this would you rather be covered in fur or covered in scales um fur because then you could remove it what do you mean you could like skin hair removal with laser surgery so you're just you're just looking to hack all these shits you're not even looking at well scales are just so like have you seen wolf girl no um it's where's she performing it she it's like a 1998 like b movie with tim curry but it's about

this girl who like her like gypsy mother it's like very fucked up she like drops her off at a carnival because she's covered in fur she's like a freak and then um she grows up and she's like wolf girl in the carnival. And then she meets this like skinny white man who's like really gross, but he falls in love with her. And he's like, oh, by the way, my mother is a scientist. And she is like coming up with a cure for people like you. And then she takes it without letting him know. But the more she takes it, the more feral she gets.

Oh, shit. So she becomes like a beautiful, like naked woman. But she's like a wild shit. Yeah. She don't wear clothes. She'd be eating raw steaks. Clearly somebody's fetish. Yeah. That was just working out a very extensive fetish.

Like what if Janet was just like a fucking animal? And she was just had fur falling off all over her. Bill, I'm your assistant and I can hear you out loud. I'm sorry. Anyway, it'd be covered in fur. Okay. Yeah. Bill, I'm your assistant and I can hear you out loud. I'm sorry. Anyway, I'd be covered in fur. Okay.

Yeah. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? By the way, great underrated. That was a lot of fun. Yeah. What's a myth? Oh, man.

Wait, what is it? What is something people think is- It's just anything that you think most people think is one way that's the other way. Okay. Can I do a thing that I think is like a theory? Can I have like? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. I have a theory that,

okay, wait, what was it? The earth is flat and I feel you on that, yeah. You ever think about the earth being flat? Yeah, though, nobody's seen the edge. I have a theory that Ariana Grande is such a good singer because she has no sense of self. And that's why she's a really good impersonator. She just has a really good ear.

And that's why she's pretending to be brown. Wow. So she actually has no idea who she is. She's all ears is my theory. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Wow.

You went in her fucking brain right there have you ever read uh so she's like hey louise borges yeah he has a story uh called i think it's called shakespeare but uh it might not be but it's a it's about shakespeare and that's his exact like reading of how shakespeare became shakespeare is he was like a completely empty vessel yeah and so he just like pulled in other people's personalities and like just paid such close attention it's really interesting because it's like yeah he he just tries to like figure out what the internal life of somebody who was like a millennial genius like a once in a millennium genius would be and it's like probably a defect of some sort yeah yeah yes wow so Shakespeare also like Ariana Grande yeah yeah

I mean Ariana Grande the Shakespeare of uh the modern world yeah yes so that is my myth I guess that's interesting though that's no but but that's interesting to think of how you're, because she's really amazing at doing impersonations and things. She's so good. But her as herself seems like a version of a person she thinks a person is. She's a cipher. Yeah, because I remember very early on in her career, I did an interview with her,

and I wasn't sure if I was talking to like actually her the whole time. I was like, I can't nail her down. Did you ask her the question, is Ariana in the room? Exactly. I'm like. Is Ariana with us right now? Actually, Ariana, stand up right now. Close your eyes.

Think of a dead woman. Now talk to her. I just tricked you how to love yourself. I know. I was like asking her. She liked opera and I was like, oh, do you like the classic? She's like, I love the Pirates of Penzance know. I was like asking her, she liked opera. And I was like, oh, do you like the classics?

She's like, I love the Pirates of Penzance. And I was like, okay, cool. Who are you? I thought you were going to do some Turandot, but okay. Yeah.

All right. Well, shit. We have figured out Ariana Grande. We have nailed a couple would you rathers. We're going to take a quick break, but I'm just going to say it. This show's off to a great start guys definitely caruana galicia was a maltese investigative journalist who on october 16th

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And we're back. And so the president, Donald Trump, is having issues. He's having a difficult time trying to digest the response he's getting from the people of London, it seems like, because he believes that the people, when they're booing him, are actually cheering him. That's what he said. That was his analysis. Oh, my God. Thousands of people cheering me on. And didn't he say that Fox was also saying when Ivanka stepped out, they were like,

oh, no, no, no, no, they're not booing her, they're booing somebody else. Everyone is in full court press denial mode right now. Because when it comes to Trump, they're pro-judgers. They're actually well-wishers. And they say there's pro-judges. That's fake news. Cut to all this footage of all y'all Londoners out in full force flying the Trump baby blimp and shit. Everything has only shown they do not want you there.

They think you are a disgrace because they have eyes and morals. And they made Brexit happen. Yeah. And they still are like, what about this dude? Okay. But yeah. And then on Fox and Friends, there was a moment where Ivanka was like leaving with John Bolton like from 10 Downing Street.

And there were people who could see down there the second she come out. Booze. But Brian Kilmeade, I mean, people who could see down there the second she come out. Booze. But Brian Kilmeade, I mean, look, he knows it's the president's favorite show. He probably knew daddy was watching. So he was like, I have to fucking spin this. So I don't actually acknowledge that maybe she's also reprehensible. I'll play the clip for you just so you can hear the mind twisting that Brian Kilmeade had to do. Downing Street.

Again. And here comes Ivanka and John Bolton. And some security. The National Security Advisor and Ivanka Trump walking across together. Does that sound like some booing? Yeah, it does. And it's not for Ivanka, it's for John Bolton

and he loves it. Yeah! Fucking take that! He fucking loves it. Oh, I eat that shit eat that shit oh i'm sorry i eat booze for breakfast keep them coming those were like moans those were like deep hated disgust that was like bassy too like there were people hitting tones i have not heard yeah and it's funny because when she first comes out like you could hear her process that there were people making sounds and i think she's used to cheering most of the time.

So she kind of like sort of pepped up. And then when that boo wave hit, her face kind of just turned a little bit. But still tried to keep her pageant queen vibe up. And it's John Bolton and he loves it. Because he lives on a steady diet of self-loathing. Yes. Is that the continuation of that sentence? I love it. diet of self-loathing yes so is that the continuation of that sentence yeah i mean because fox news like what you're hearing there's probably what's going on in trump's head where

he's like they're not booing me they're booing they're booing john bolton and he loves it so this is actually a good thing because he's dunking on them right um he was somehow stuffed at the rim but i turned that into a dunk so let's's talk about this is something that we talked about after the terror attack in Sri Lanka, that their government had actually shut down the Internet for a day or at least shut down Facebook and social media. At first, I was like, that's probably a good thing because Facebook has spread so much disinformation and hate and caused genocides in some cases. But apparently, this is becoming a go-to move for governments, specifically autocracies. Because you inhibit their ability to organize properly when you take away social media. So it is a double-edged sword. Yeah. So worldwide, Bloomberg is reporting that shutdowns of all or part of the internet in

countries rose to 188 government interventions in the last year, up from 75 in 2016. So I don't know, man. That's scary. That's scary because it hasn't happened in the U.S., but you kind of think, oh, well, they'd never get away with shutting down the internet in the U.S., but how would they not get away with it? Who would catch them?

The media? Right, who's on the internet? Yeah, how are you going to get them? Are you're gonna go to your local newsstand and uh yeah i mean all it's gonna take is who knows if like if 2020 goes south for trump and like you know a lot of people suspect it's gonna be a shaky transition of power what kind of weird shit could happen then you know i mean it's uh and also when you think of a lot of it too like as people become more and more disillusioned and disenfranchised by capitalism you are going to see people take up to take to the streets to exercise their power to be like okay i get it one percent of y'all own 60 of this shit but there's 99 of us and we're fucking

angry right and i'm gonna take your shit, but there's 99% of us and we're fucking angry. Right. And I'm going to take your shit now. But I can see the internet shutting down then too where it's like, um. Yeah. Off switch. Right. Yeah.

And this came up over the weekend because Google Cloud went down, I think, for other reasons, not because the government was shutting it down, but people- They were just testing if they could shut it down. People were wondering if this was the government testing a kill switch. Oh, right. Do you guys back everything up? No. I back every website I go to up on a hard drive.

Really? No. That would be excessive. I only back that thing up. You only back... I was waiting for that. Yeah, I don waiting for that. Yeah,

I don't either. Everything on hard drives, everything on old CDs, you know what I mean? CDRWs, CDRW pluses, you know what I mean? Yeah.

You know, oddly enough, I just don't take care of a lot of my media. Like, everything's so transient to me. I'm like, am I really gonna look at photos that I took three years ago?

Probably not, because half the time I'm just taking photos of dumb shit. Right. That like, I'll never be like, gather around, kids. This is when Junip played at Outside Lands. Jose Gonzalez's voice would haunt me.

It's like a Swedish, what's that guy's name? Who sang You Got a Friend? James Taylor. Oh, my God. James Taylor sang You Got a Friend in Me? He sang a version of You Got a Friend? James Taylor. Oh, my God. James Taylor sang You Got a Friend in Me? He sang a version of You Got a Friend. When you're down in trouble and you need. That was my eighth grade graduation song.

We wanted it to be Saved Tonight by Eagle Eye Cherry, and the school was like, that's blasphemous. I'm like, we're going to fight the break of dawn. Saved Tonight was like the controversial pick. Yo, everyone was like, it's gotta be Save Tonight for our eighth grade graduation song. Whack as fuck.

Just a backstory. Remember I told you the person whose whole personality was the Sugar Ray video, Fly Was Shot in My Godmother's Backyard? Yeah. She led the charge on making Save Tonight by Eagle Eye Cherry

for the eighth grade graduation song. Wow. A hero. A hero. A hero. A true hero. Oh my God. I'm sorry, I interrupted you though.

No, it's okay. I was just going to ask some like woo-woo thing, which was like, do you think our like children are going to be as like curious about like our pictures as we are about our parents?

Like whenever I find pictures of my parents, I'm like, you're like, oh shit. God, the Volvo. Like, wow. Right,

they're like, dad had a six pack yeah there wasn't bullshit in the food and also we're doing cocaine yeah we thought cocaine

was good for you we thought cocaine was a diet drug shit we called them pet pills right it was meth I think so

because I think we always have a fascination with our parents we only know our parents as like these Disney creatures that we make like perfect or whatever unless you know however you're raised you might come to the realization they're not perfect but i think on some level every kid always wants to kind of know

like what was life like before i fucked it all up right according to what you say when you have your wife and like the the thought experiment of like if i ran into my dad when he was my age, would I like him? Would he be tight? Would he be tight? I have the freaking thought like, would my dad try to like flirt with me? Oh, wow.

Oh, so you're some Marty McFly shit. Yeah. You're like, ooh. Well, that is actually the thought experiment that led to the writing of Back to the Future. The writer like had the thought, what if I could go to high school with my dad? Whoa.

Would I get in the way? Would my mom be like, I'm actually feeling this, dude. And I'm like, you're my mom. But whoa. We just in five seconds recreated the thought process that led to Back to the Future. Yeah, I do wonder though because there's going to be so much more video and...

Yeah, so much of a... Oh, yeah, just footage. So much archive. Yeah. Yeah. And, like, content that's been created. Oh, my God. They'll be like, I found your old YouTube channel, Dad.

I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. That's still up? I thought YouTube died in the franchise wars. Yeah. I could disappear tomorrow and my kids would have plenty of me to deal with.

There's plenty of algorithms. They could take a bunch of material from Cracked and create a machine-learned version of you. Like that Black Mirror episode. Good Black Mirror. There was a company that was saying you could take emails and social media stuff and create a chat bot

that would at least mimic the way you spoke and like the shit so you wouldn't hear a voice but you could just log on and be like I uploaded my dad's emails to this

and now I can talk to the email machine that was how the black mirror episode started are you sure you're not taking to the black mirror episode what's black mirror it's a black superhero

oh the dude who Got bit by the radioactive mirror Alright let's talk about Nancy Pelosi Caitlin Durante It's a black guy who got bit by a radioactive mirror He became black hair So there's a pharmaceutical bill She's touting

That would help solve runaway drug pricing. Yeah. I mean, look, she's got a bill, right? On the surface, we're talking about things that will help people that will, that will move, uh, this society into a place where we're not treating people as if they're prophets. Imagine. Imagine.

I think the internet will get shut down when we're on the way to having that moment anyway. So the deal is this is a new bill that's basically empowers the health and a price closer to the typical amount that is being charged in other countries. Because obviously, like we have the most litty prices for pharmaceuticals that you should go broke if you have asthma or diabetes. So it sounds fine. But when you look at who the fuck the HHS secretary is, Alex Azarar he is a former drug company exec and pharma lobbyist so what the fuck is he gonna do to negotiate with his home he's like yeah bro they sent me to negotiate with y'all what do you want to raise the five percent right let's do it yes um so that's why people are like what the fuck is this bill like it's really doesn't make sense it like just

based on the environment we're in right now this would would not help anybody. And now, and I think it was in the New Republic or no, Mother Jones, this one opinion writer was saying like, well, this could be something a little more forward thinking. Now, you know, like we, like on the surfaces, you're like, this is a non-deal. Like this doesn't even make sense. Why would this happen? But what if a Democrat wins in 2020 and is in the white house and then the new administration would already have a law in place that would allow the new hhs secretary to renegotiate drug prices and you don't need a fucking single republican vote to do it and then because right now i mean at at, prices won't change, right, with this HHS secretary.

Or it probably could go up. And then at best, maybe it goes down a little. But if this is already signed into law, then you have a stealthy way to just sort of get your new plans in motion once somebody takes the White House. So that's why some people are like, is this 90 chess? Is 90 chess or is this terrible fucking governance where you're just trying to work with this administration who probably won't help anybody and give them a win? But I think, you know, it's interesting to sort of consider like what is going on, like what is really the deal here with this bill? And I think GOP Congress people are kind of onto it because they're not exactly supporting the bill because I think they can see it could be a setup move for a little pharma checkmate but you know i don't have really i don't really have much hope or faith when it comes to setting these drug prices that pharmaceutical executives will just change things for our good on their own uh with only themselves over uh overseeing the process? They're like lower costs.

Do you know how much it costs to heat my marble floors? Right. Fuck off. I mean, this is a question that people had about Nancy Pelosi when it comes to impeachment, like whether she's slow rolling things because she knows that there's going to be an impeachment, but she wants to draw out all the facts.

Or comes from a place of privileges and completely out of touch of the existential threat that this administration faces, people who aren't like her. Right. Exactly. Or there's that too, I don't know. People who need help.

Being casual. It's like, oh, we can do it at the ballot box. It's like, really? Telling these black and brown people, these LGBTQ people, everybody else who is looking down the barrel of a gun constantly, and be like, yeah, I can wait till November. Right.

Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Thank you for understanding. My leg will maybe stay on until then. Yeah.

And just thinking of like even now with like those ICE detentions, ICE detainees, that internal memo came out, basically them saying a lot of these deaths were preventable. Jesus Christ. And then that there were kids left in vans for like 39 hours and shit trying to reunite with their families. Like shit is fucked up. Yeah. And then that there were kids left in vans for like 39 hours and shit, trying to reunite with their families. Like, shit is fucked up. And we're trying to, that's why it's a, on one hand, I wish she could at least communicate that she understands the existential threat

that's posed and be like, I'm not saying it's not important. What I need to do, I'm just trying to let y'all know we have to get, this is what I'm thinking. But then again, that's political strategery that she probably don't want to show her hand. But I think, you know, the cries for impeachment are growing louder and louder. And even like even in leadership, like you have people basically coming out being like, yeah, I think impeachment is inevitable. Like James Clyburn said that.

Did he? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it needs to happen. We will see. All right. Well, speaking of 2020 and that election, the town halls that CNN and Fox News are doing with the 30 different candidates, people have thrown their hat in the ring for president. Yeah, I mean, they've been kind of the main way that people have shown their face to the American public. Yeah.

their face to to the american public yeah and apparently people have not seen anything that's really changed how they were thinking uh up to that point in these because uh a poll was just released that found that their approval ratings or like how they're doing in the polls uh hasn't really changed at all uh from before to after their town halls. Yeah, there's not like a lot of people were like, oh, man, yeah, get in front of a different audience. This will probably help. This will help. And Washington Post did a pretty thorough analysis. And they said the biggest impact for anybody with polling numbers came from campaign announcements. Like that's when they saw bumps or people got like very interested a town hall aired and they're like yeah like okay something's on tv it's the

field is just so crowded right and like when it comes to like some of these uh not lesser but lesser no we'll call them lesser candidates uh people just if you're not fully engaged with that candidate like chances are you're not tuning in for because it's there's too much noise right now right um but the people who did kind of get bumps were people who were like at the higher end like engaged with that candidate, like chances are you're not tuning in for it because it's there's too much noise right now. Right. But the people who did kind of get bumps were people who were like at the higher end, like the Biden Sanderses of the world. They got bumps from their.

A little bit like. Wait, did Biden do a town hall? No, no, no. I mean, I'm sorry. More mostly Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders. Oh, OK. Got it. OK.

And so, you know, those things had a slight effect, but nothing where they'd be like, hey, that was a good move. You did that town hall because that helped here. The only person who was actually an exception was Pete Buttigieg. He kind of went because that first basically town hall made people be like, oh, who's this guy? Yeah, I feel like that kicked off the whole media wave. Yeah, it did.

And his Twitter, there was a graph of his Twitter interactions. Like the day after, it's a hockey stick. Like it goes whoop. So that helped him. But then there are other people like, you know, Kristen Gillibrand, she just had one and had like an interesting moment on Fox, like dunking on Fox. And those are like the moments you hope for.

But we don't know. There hasn't been polling in the wake of that town hall, so we don't know how much that helped her, but I know she's still struggling to qualify for debates. Yeah. I mean, I don't... Television is a bad way to find information. Like, people aren't going to tune in

unless they just want to see more of what they already like about the person. Right. I get worried about people who only tune into TV to find information too, you know? Yeah. I think for this to be a big swing, it would have to be with people who like have tuned in or are deciding to tune into like all 20 town halls

and then like make their decision. And that's just like the internet exists. That's a half percent. We can just go read articles about these people we don't need to yeah yeah right it's funny also too i wonder if subconsciously like when you turn on the tv like if you're already putting yourself into like i'm going into a world of wonder and fantasy where i'm not like that it works on you because normally you're just there for entertainment so then suddenly when you're looking at like images of things that should move you, you're like, huh, that's a weird show.

Yeah. Yeah. You don't have to interact with it the way you do with like the Internet. Right. Yeah. It's a fully passive medium. Yeah. Yeah, totally.

But at the same time, that's a over time. And the fact that it was just so overwhelming, like the preponderance of TV coverage does influence people. I just feel like a single appearance is not going to swing things. So it's got to be frustrating to be like number 16 through 21, 22. Or number 6 through 20. Yeah. Well, that's why I think maybe the debate stage will change things. Yeah.

You know, when you see people like call each other out. I mean, I don't know how deep. We're not quite into mud time yet. Right. But I have a feeling when you start comparing people on stage side by side, that'll probably help people a little bit more to be like, oh, you know what? Actually, when I put this person next to this person,

I don't like that one so much anymore. Mud time is the one day a year that you designate for your pooping. Right, yes. It's mud time, guys. And it's also the election. What a terrible time for Beto O'Rourke to choose for this to be his mud time. On the debate stage, could not get an answer in. Full numbers in the toilet.

Could not hear him through his shit gills. Couldn't articulate one answer. What a bad choice. And Mr. O'Rourke, what would you do about the family separation? Okay, okay. What about you, Bernie? Yeah, we still are not at the point in the 2016 election where Trump entered the race. So that's also worth keeping in mind that the winning candidate had not yet entered the race in our last presidential election.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And so are Punk'd and Single Out. Baby, Single Out. Oh, man. Single Out. We were just thinking about the fact that it was hosted by Chris Hardwick and Jenny McCarthy. Yeah.

I don't remember Singled Out. Just like two of the, yeah, very problematic figures. There are two people who probably wouldn't be asked to host now. Even for nostalgia's sake, they'd be like, yeah, I don't remember Singled Out. Yeah. But I remember Singled Out. I loved it because I was only like 12 or some shit at the time. I didn't know what the fuck was going on.

And I was just like, I like Jenny McCarthy. Is it like in conjunction with Next or like same philosophy? What is it? Oh, much worse. It was a TV soundstage and there would be one person and they would bring a group of 100 extras out and then they would narrow it down by 50. It was almost like family food style questions. It was like 50 people and salty would all be eliminated. And then there would be like 50 left and they'd keep like eliminating people. Oh, my God.

And it was, yeah, I don't know. It was like dating game style, right? Because you couldn't see them. Like it was always like then they would be like, and this is the person you matched up with. And they're like, oh, it's a sentient MAGA hat. Right. Oh, no. Thank you.

But, yeah, it's a sentient MAGA hat right oh no thank you but yeah it's coming back just because you know I heard the calls of my generation demanding we needed it singled and punked

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So this is filling a need that we were all begging for somebody to come in and fill another video platform. Just for phone. Just for phone. This one just for phone. And YouTube length TV shows. We were all thinking that. We were all thinking that because I'm a baby boomer CEO who is seven years behind of what's actually happening.

And no one who works for me tells me the truth because they don't want to get fired. So I continue to tank my multi-billion dollar company into the ground. But yeah, it's not even live as of this recording. It is- Yeah, if you go to the website, it's like- Right. It's a partnership between Jeffrey Katzenberg and Meg Whitman. Uh-oh.

Jeffrey Katzenberg is a huge Hollywood mover and shaker. And Meg Whitman, who's that again? Oh, she ran for governor in California. And I had to organize a few different protests or actions against her. Yeah, she was like, I was a CEO of Hewlett Packard. And now I'm here to fuck your state up. Right. And yeah, I remember there was a thing we did with a bunch of nurses,

like a nurses association where everybody wore Meg Whitman wigs. Oh, really? What's up, Meg? Y'all ain't for the people. That's kind of tight. This wasn't even for his job working in the lobbying industry. This is just Miles when he gets pissed at somebody. I just put a wig on, put my wigs on, call up my nurse gang, and we come before you.

That's why we're going to be at the IHOP on Sunset this Sunday. Please join us for action against this terrible, terrible company. Stop playing with us. But yeah, the thing this reminds me of because I too was in a, was working on a content thing with a partnership with Jeffrey Katzenberg and Verizon.

Yep. Was that Go90? It was really big on Go90. The shit did not go. There, a nightmare. Yeah. Was that Go 90? Yeah, they were like, it was really big on Go 90. The shit did not go. There was also- 90. It didn't even go one. It didn't even go one.

Shit went 90 degrees to the left. Samsung's Milk Video. Do you remember that? Oh my God, that's right. Yeah, so this happens almost annually. There's a big boatload of like a cruise ship full of money pulls up to los angeles and it's just like we're gonna do a proprietary video platform and like you guys start making videos for it and then a bunch of talented creative people like make a

bunch of content and it goes on to this platform that immediately like goes under right or with verizon it's like if you're not a verizon customer how the fuck you no one gives a fuck about go 90 so like they just don't think of how these media environments even work which is why i go back to this idea of like these super out of touch old dudes making deals and being like, yeah, this is the future. You know how I know? I thought of something in 1988. Right. So that's the hook I'm hanging my shit on. The Digiday article says,

don't bet against Jeffrey Katzenberg. Okay, babe. Okay, babe. All right, babe. If it ain't DreamWorks, I don't know. What is that? Quigby sounds too much like Quaalude to me. Wow.

Right? Quibby? Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like Quibble. Quibble. Yeah. Quaalude, I think you were just thinking of because you want Quaaludes, which is fine.

Because you like to get loose. Or evil men in charge. Yeah, right. This whole thing, too, even with Punk'd, right? So they're saying in the People Magazine article about it, it says, now that technology can really augment reality, the upcoming Punk'd reboot promises to pull the boldest pranks on the biggest stars in Hollywood. That's so good right there.

I'm sorry, you're not pulling the boldest pranks on the biggest stars in Hollywood for 10 minutes on a mobile phone. Unquibby. Fuck out of here. You think they're going to be like, oh yeah, I want to be on your platform. Nobody gives a fuck about it. Right. But what are they doing?

That line, now that technology can really Right. But what are they doing? Like when they're, this, that line, now that technology can really augment reality. Like what are they fucking thinking? Like faking people? Yeah. They're like, Oh, I found this sex tape with your dad.

Check this out. I was fucked up. You were punk. Not as such a dad. Augment is such a creepy word. Yes. Yeah. Why choose that one?

Ominous. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Well, if you think that is going to bring about the collapse of civilization, I've got a new report that says it's not going to happen until 2050. Oh, boy. That's not a good way to talk about this story. So a scientist and a former energy executive have drawn on a type of analysis called system analysis and basically say that catastrophic consequences are more likely than most people assume from climate change. And they're unavoidable without an immediate World War II level mobilization of all the forces within, like, all of the countries. Starting yesterday. Yeah, starting yesterday.

Starting three years ago. To alter the trajectory of, like, the global economy. But they're basically saying that all these different things, you know, like, half a degree more and, like, there will be more storms. And, like, all these things are going to build on each other. Right. degree more and like there will be more storms and like all these things are gonna build on each other right uh you know systems require a bunch of things to stay stable for for them to operate properly and so the second you start like adding instability to those systems uh shit's gonna get fucked up um yeah yeah see if you if you have boomer parents who don't get it you can be like okay think of the environment as like your engine block right okay yeah now what happens when even if if let's say a a fluid line a transmission line goes out right how's the car working oh that's pretty

fucked up yeah but think about that with the earth never mind just smoke your cigar and wear your keep listening your jimmy buffett fucking album um yeah i uh 2050 huh yeah so what i got like 20 years 30 years okay yeah shit i'll be like 60 something yeah i'll be 70 i'm good with you know being done at 70 but uh you, when you have kids, it's kind of, it's like, oh, you're going to be just hitting the prime of your life. I know. That's what. Civilization collapses. That's what fucks me up when I think about having a kid because I'm like, everything

I'm reading says that child will just like look at a wall of flame. Yeah. But, you know. Cool. But, you know. cool all right it's been nice i was literally on the edge of my seat like what's miles gonna say to put this home i can't feel better about it well i think honestly you know you'd hope at some level right i feel like at least public sentiment is moving in the right direction yeah and slowly you know like the uk just had like their longest streak of no coal energy like that that they've ever had.

There's all this incremental shit. But like, I don't know, man, like the way we've looked at how our modern society works, like either something has to happen financially for people to wake the fuck up or something so fucking horrific that they're going to be like, yeah, maybe we should do something. Well, and that's the problem with climate change is that it doesn't have that big horrific something so fucking horrific that they're going to be like, yeah, maybe we should do something. Cause that's the problem with climate change is that it doesn't have that big horrific event that like everybody can mobilize around. Right. Like,

uh, you know, Nazism, it's just a gradual, like boiling frog scenario where things just get worse and worse. But, uh, you know,

this year is only a little bit worse than last year uh it's a lot worse than 20 years ago but we don't really think about that because uh not true that one summer in 1994 during the world cup whoo this shit was like 119 120 a couple days so that's why i know things are getting cooler because last summer when my ac went out it shit was only 115 oh and that's how I put it into perspective that's a good point

sometimes I wonder if like socialism can only happen if an apocalypse happens oh probably yeah well again you know I think

in America yeah in America for sure right of course I mean we're the whole world right yeah well I mean we spend

a lot of money to give socialism and communism bad PR it's called wars and putting in public government. Well, I've been watching like Chernobyl and whatever.

The Soviet Union was like corrupt. But all of those people were like, yes, I will like go into this nuclear reactor for my country. Right. And also communism is not socialism. Communism is like autocratic and dictatorial. You're right. You're right. You're right.

Like I was listening to a podcast from FiveThirtyEight where they were talking about like whether, you know, there's this perception that there is this huge right word movement of, you know, people going towards autocratic governments around the world. And they were pointing out that there's a lot of other examples where people are going towards like green parties and like the who also tend to be nationalist but um you know and that makes sense with this so i i could see things changing people making more and more radical changes because things are getting so dire with uh with climate change but uh that also opens things up to, you know, things changing radically and people deciding to make a huge rightward swing and, you know, then all bets are off. So, yeah, just something to think about. Warm your bones with that.

No big deal. Warm your bones. Get your apocalypse packs ready. Yeah, just something to think about. Warm your bones with that. No big deal. Warm your bones. Get your apocalypse packs ready. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, get your fucking, get your vape pens, store up on them things, man, because. Do you have a plan? Did you see that tweet from the dude who was like,

how are they going to fuck with me with this bug out bag? And it was like 40 guns. And someone was like, well, you're going to die of thirst because there's no water or even a canteen in there. It was like all these guns and like was like well you're gonna die of thirst because there's no water or even a canteen in there it's like all these guns and like knives and shit and like not a single piece of food or i drink knives all right okay um all right let's talk about uh what a creepy place youtube is the creepiest fucking shit i mean we talk wigged we talk, we talk a lot about how, you know,

you'll go on a video being like, I just want to see debt liberals owning Trump. Right. And suddenly that is a good impression of me. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Um, and then it like, you'll end up on some weird dark shit or how typically people just want to start off like watching debate videos and suddenly you're getting red pilled on like the alt-right youtube world so there was a study being done when this harvard researcher was like sort of looking at the effects of youtube like specifically in brazil and there was this mom who like her 10 year old daughter had uploaded a video of like this her daughter 10 year old and her friends like playing and like at a pool or something and her daughter was like oh my god the videos like got like 2 000 views and her friends like playing in like at a pool or something. And her daughter was like,

Oh my God, the videos, I got like 2000 views. And she's like, Oh, okay. Then like a couple of days later, she's like videos,

400,000 views. And she's like, what the fuck y'all are just playing. This is not even a long clip. This is not even good content. Right. Fuck is this? So come to find out the people who are watching it.

We're not, uh, fans of home videos. this is not 400 000 of your extended family this these people were being like we're getting there because of the algorithm now the whole thing is that from this article says youtube's automated recommendation system which drives most of the platform's billions of views by suggesting what users should watch next had begun showing the video to users who watched other videos of prepubescent, partially clothed children a team of researchers has found. So the algorithm is purely operating on like, what you like?

You like that? Here's more of that. Here's more of that. Okay, what can I tangentially find that's kind of like that? Okay, chew on that. And then you end up going to this dark ass place. So sometimes people aren't even starting off watching young children videos. Again, it says that a user who watches erotic videos might be recommended videos of women who became conspicuously younger and then women who pose provocatively in children's clothes.

Eventually, some users might be presented with videos of girls as young as five or six wearing bathing suits or getting dressed or doing a split. On its own, each video might be perfectly innocent, a home movie, say, made by a child. Any revealing frames are fleeting and appear accidental, but grouped together, their shared features become unmistakable. So what they did, all these people were like, okay, this can't just be a coincidence. Let's fucking run an experiment. They worked this algorithm thousands of times

to just understand what is going on. How are we getting from point A to point B? And they just saw exactly how it was functioning when they, and this is again from the article quote, when they followed recommendations on sexually themed videos, they noticed something they say disturbed them. In many cases, the videos became more bizarre or extreme and placed greater emphasis on youth. Videos of women discussing sex, for example, sometimes led to videos of women in underwear

or breastfeeding, sometimes mentioning their age, 19, 18, even 16. Some women solicited donations from sugar daddies or handed out private videos. After a few clicks, some played more overtly prepubescent posing in children's clothing. From there, YouTube would suddenly begin recommending videos of young and partially clothed children, then a near endless stream of them drawn primarily from Latin America and Eastern Europe. So when they asked YouTube for comment, this is what they said. It's not clear to us that necessarily our recommendation engine takes you in one direction or another.

When it comes to kids, we just want to take a much more conservative stance for what we recommend. That's it. So they basically just shrugged. I don't know. No, I wouldn't think it's a problem. Ew.

This is so evil it's just this is the kind of this is that runaway technology and they're like uh hello you're like a lot of the times too there could be kids put their social media handles and videos because they they're mimicking what they see influencers do yeah and then suddenly now predators on the internet can find you and begin grooming you youtube is a social media platform yeah so this is like the the response was so lackluster they're even like wow all they said was like we don't think it goes one way or another i mean look at all the people who say if people are getting radicalized through youtube videos right uh people and then you come to this

it's like there is a rabbit hole effect that you're creating. And they also hate that term. Like, we don't like to say rabbit hole. We like to say bunny cave. Bunny cave. Bunny pit in the floor that you go down. And then when you come out the other side, it's all fucked. Right. Type shit.

But yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is, you know, it's impossible for them to truly address this while maintaining profitability. Because it's not like there's a dude somewhere who's like tagging this as like child barely clothed. It's just reacting to people clicking on it from other videos and like seeing that pattern and identifying it like just algorithmically and if you needed to have enough people like monitoring all these different nations and all these different videos uh you know youtube wouldn't be able to stay in business so they're and i mean that's like same deal with facebook or they would be able to stay in business. So they're, and I mean, that's like same deal with Facebook

where they would be able to stay in business, but they wouldn't be nearly as profitable. Child views, like for kids using YouTube, like innocently, like actually kids just watching kid content, that is a huge revenue stream. Oh yeah. So, and a lot of experts are like,

you could just do one thing, just stop, take children's content or anything with kids out of the algorithm. Yeah. Just remove that as a thing it can draw from to suggest videos. Right. Then people aren't going to be fucking going there. They're just going to cycle through all the shit that you're leaving in there. Yeah.

But YouTube is like, well, they're such a big traffic driver. It would hurt creators who rely on clicks. It's just like, they're only, they're only thinking about their own money. But meanwhile, you're, you have like this soft, weird,

soft core child pornographers or shit that people who are interested in this kind of fucked up shit or not that the videos themselves are fucked up, but looking at videos that are not intended for anything other than like this memory or something to then sexualize these kids or whatever. I think also to think like there's so many like prepubescent like kids who think that they're going to be YouTubers like as a career and like want to be influencers and like, I don't know. Oh, it's just like all feeding into the same creepy thing. Yeah. Yeah.

Like that's actually a very common, like, what do you want to be when you grow up? Not like movie star or like best player in the NBA, but like YouTube influencer. Yeah. Yeah. Then you just live your life on YouTube and everybody loves you.

Or even like talking to younger kids, like, you know, like kids who are still in school. And I'm like, what do you, what do you want to do? And they're like,

I want to, I want to be like a model. Right. And then they, but they're talking about Instagram. Instagram model. Yeah. And I'm like, what do you want to do? And they're like, I want to, I want to be like a model. Right. And then they, but they're talking about Instagram. Instagram model. Yeah. And I'm like,

God damn. Like, yeah. No, then people don't do shit. Right. But also like, but that's,

that's who we, that's who's exalted in their world of like, these are the top people. Yeah. For me, it was Will Smith. Right. Right.

It's telling also maybe like state of the economy or like these kids are like, this is how I'm going to get a job. Right. Right. It's telling also maybe like state of the economy or like these kids are like, this is how I'm going to get a job. Right. Or like, this is how I'm going to make money and like feed myself. They're looking at broke millennials

who are like, we're the first generation to be like, I have to commodify my beings because I have no job. I have no job prospects. Right. So I must make myself the product.

Yeah. And then kids are looking up at that that's the cool older sister cool older whoever you're like okay commodify your being yeah that's that's that's another path you can take so if anything if for parents out there beak like make sure your kids aren't if they're under 18 check out what they're uploading to youtube and also like if you really have videos you want to share make make them shits private and just distribute the link. Because then at least that way, it's only people who you know who have the link

are going to see it. But this is definitely a potential risk because YouTube doesn't give a fuck whether whatever the content is. It could be extremism. It can be things like inappropriate content with kids. It doesn't give a fuck i mean i wonder if this shit is going on on like instagram too i'm sure it is right i wonder

probably like through the explore page or something i mean that's all algorithmically based isn't it like it is yeah yeah i'm sure but i guess if yeah it doesn't seem very smart the instagram algorithm because like i liked a nba video once, and all I get is NBA videos. It just seems like it's kind of basic, maybe, compared to the YouTube algorithm. Yeah. It's kind of harder to go down a hole in Instagram, I think. Right. Yeah, yeah.

Well, the food ones, shit. I'll scroll till my eyes go dry. When I see melted cheese for whatever reason, I'm like, go on. I love videos where like they'll make a quesadilla and they'll just lift it up with all the cheese. And I'm like, oh, shit. Look at all the threading and shit. Wow. Think about the people who are just uploading that for home cooking, Miles.

Yeah, I know. Jesus Christ. Wow, you're sick. I'm salivating. And then I go to Tacos El Venado. It's pretty good. Go there. Cool. Melissa, it're sick. I'm salivating. I'm salivating. And then I go to Tacos El Venado. It's pretty good. Go there. Cool.

Melissa, it's been a pleasure having you. Thanks for having me. Where can people find you? You can find me through the algorithm. Yes. And also, hello, Melissa, which is like, hello, Melissa, but without the H. Hello, Melissa. Hello, Melissa.

Hello, puppet. Ew. Exactly. Is that from Pirates of the Caribbean? Oh, Melissa. Hello, Melissa. Hello, puppet. Ew. Exactly. Is that from Pirates of the Caribbean? Oh, is it? Puppet? Hello, puppet. Hello, puppet.

Weird. You can also listen to my podcast, Say More Podcast with Olivia Gatwood, streaming everywhere. Which I'll do. Which I'll do on that podcast. It's like a conversational podcast. We interview people on things that they're experts on. Nice. We interviewed Jamie about corporate feminism. corporate feminism and like a doula,

someone who worked in gay porn. Oh, nice. What's like all those people you interviewed Jamie about all those subjects. She's a doula. She's a doula. Hidden directs.

I know she's so talented. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, I really like this one. Let me see. This is Alex B. Tanner. Why is every single book title things we lost in the fire when we were girls and we didn't talk about all the things

we never told our mothers? Things we lost in the fire. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me and follow me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray two tweets I like one is from Reductress and you know

thematically ties into what we're talking about this one from Reductress says how to get over baby fever by remembering the earth is dying yeah and one more from the onion because it just felt I've been saying it over and over it's an image of like this

dude in a hoodie like talking to this woman who looks so disinterested and it says man directs full force of anecdote towards single person after rest of group moves on to different topic which is a thing man when people be hitting you with that right fucking commandeer

the the group talk i do not like yeah no no no when you're just like this is more for you than anything oh you're not trying to convey any information right you're like i get it the dude at chipotle loves you do you want me to just uh leave you alone in here sometimes though you know people who do that they can't actually register that you are talking shit back to them. I've noticed. When people get on that shit and they're like, yeah, and they get this momentum going and I go, oh yeah. I just love them. And I just

throw my hands up like, oh, are you serious? And they're like, no, I am. And I'm like, wow. I wonder if those people become YouTubers. They're just talking to themselves. That's why they call me Black Mirror. They look into me and they see whatever they need to see become YouTubers. Yes. They're just talking to themselves. Mm-hmm. That's why they call me Black Mirror. They look into me and they see whatever they need to see right back. Yes.

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Okay? And your boots will be knocking. Because it's got a funky beat to it. And a hip tang. A hip tang? Yeah. Like from that guy. There's a dude who talks about hot sauce and calls it a hip tang. A hip tang? Yeah. Like from that guy there's a dude who talks about hot sauce

and calls it a hip tang like Bone Daddy or something. Anyway, I saw it on Top Chef. But yeah, Drain by Shy Girls. Alright, we're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. We'll talk to you guys then. Bye. Bye But I should have just let it all go I'm not an athlete I sit and only make beats

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