The Daily Zeitgeist - Art Of The Fail, Nike Crushes Small Businessman 2.15.19

Episode Date: February 15, 2019

In episode 330, Jack and Miles are joined by Yo Is This Racist's co-host Andrew Ti to discuss a Colorado store closing down after they boycotted Nike cause of Colin Kaepernick ad, Amazon canceling the...ir plans to build an HQ in New York City, Trump calling a state of emergency over the border wall, Paul Manafort lying while under cooperation agreement, Frozen 2 trailer dropping, an absurd Newsweek story, the Oscars upsetting everyone, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Colorado store that boycotted Nike after Colin Kaepernick ad will close2. Amazon Cancels Plan For NYC Headquarter Location3. The Art Of The Kneel: How Trump’s Tactics Kept Shrinking His Wall4. If Trump declares a national emergency, Pelosi can jam Republicans. Here's how.5. Fox host says if Trump supports bipartisan bill the shutdown will have been a "waste of time"6. Document: Judge Rules Manafort Lied While Under Cooperation Agreement7. Fox’s Andrew Napolitano: Paul Manafort lying to a grand jury means that “he’s exposed to more than 20 years in jail,” in turn meaning that “he might very well be a candidate for a pardon, and the public might accept the pardon.”8. This clip never gets old.9. Frozen 2 sets record for most watched animated trailer10. SNAKE BITES MAN, MAN BITES WIFE SO THEY CAN DIE TOGETHER, WIFE SURVIVES11. Oscar Intrigue: Did Lady Gaga Force Academy To Fix Song Snafu? Are Last Year’s Actor Winners Being Ignored As Presenters?12. Allison Janney Will Present at the Oscars After All13. ‘A fundamentally stupid decision’: Hollywood bashes Oscars’ move to give four awards during commercials14. Sorry Academy, Oscars Ratings and Running Time Don’t Correlate (Opinion)15. WATCH: Aso - Inside All Day Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:05 Or Lacey gets it. Do it. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 69, Episode 5 of Dear Daily Zeitgeist! Yeah. The podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Friday, February 15th, 2019. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold.
Starting point is 00:02:27 And O'Brien, the stairway to heaven. Courtesy of Hannah Soltis. And also, that take on me, a.k.a., was a guy named Nick Wright. And I said somebody else's name. My bad, Nick. Well, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! A Wendy's Gray-kinator
Starting point is 00:02:51 with a half pound of fresh, never-frozen keef? Thank you to Christy Yamaguchi, man. We were talking about fast food, and look, if you somehow cleverly weave Keef into it I'll say it Does that promenade? That's not like you lip syncing in it I mean, I guess if you just
Starting point is 00:03:13 That's just me sort of reworking Or Christy Yamaguchi main in this case Reworking a slogan for the Wendy's Baconator With a half pound of fresh never frozen beef Those two, Hannah and Christy Yamaguchi-Maine, are like the it's like the Cold War out here. They're very complimentary to one another,
Starting point is 00:03:32 but they're clearly the two great hegemonic powers out there in the AKA universe. Yeah, that they like pick up, just that ring the other one immediately. I don't want to step on your toes. But if it is not hot enough, I will blow it the other one immediately. I don't want to step on your toes. That's right.
Starting point is 00:03:45 But if it is not hot enough, I will blow it out the water. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the very faces on Mount Zytmore. He is Mr. Andrew T. What up? I, even less than usual, didn't come prepared with an AK. How even less? You're just owning it this time rather than panicking your way into it?
Starting point is 00:04:08 Sometimes I've had one that I sounded good in my head and I couldn't execute. Right. Sometimes the first three times I was on the show, I did not understand how it worked somehow. And then I feel like last time I almost had a good one. Have you done Dr. T and the Women? You have, right? I feel like... And then we just settled into Low T.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Right. Andrew Low T. Which someone, I believe, maybe at the San Francisco show, referred to me to my face. As Low T. As Low T. T-I-82. So that's me, I guess. T-I-82 is pretty good. People used I guess. T-I-82 is pretty good.
Starting point is 00:04:45 People used to call me T-1000 in high school. Oh, okay. There you go. Because I kill people's moms. Right. There we go. Lift and brisk ice teams. With your hands.
Starting point is 00:04:54 With your bare hands. That's brisk, baby. Such an upsetting scene. I know. A lot of fun, though. I loved it. Blood in the milk is gross. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Yeah. Just so much. That old farm song? Terminator 2. Blood in the milk is gross right yeah just that old uh farm song term in the milk yeah blood in oh blood in the milk blood in the milk uh all right andrew we're gonna get first we're gonna take our listeners through a couple of things we're talking about today we're gonna talk about nike claiming a scalp in the culture wars. They shut down that sporting good place. Yeah, yeah, in your face, loser. No, we'll talk about what I was just talking about. Also, Amazon bailed on HQ2 in Long Island City.
Starting point is 00:05:41 We'll talk about that. Frozen 2 has become the most watched animated film trailer ever. So we'll talk about why that's dark as fuck. It's a dark trailer. And then all sorts of politics shit. But first, Andrew, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I'll just say my most recent search was for a,
Starting point is 00:06:04 just to make sure I had the proportions right on a fried bologna sandwich oh yes actually some of the hosts of the daily zeitgeist may have gotten in on i already felt left out but one night now you're i know we were just like DMing him videos. Like, hey, daddy. It's almost like the meat is creamy. Yeah, well, it started because, full disclosure, we hung out. Yeah, yeah. And you made a fried bologna sandwich. That was so decadent that I have a feeling like my health insurance just went up. If they found out I ate this.
Starting point is 00:06:40 In retrospect, the only side dish we should have had is just like a candy dish full of Lipitor. It was gross. So fried bologna is a poor white person country delicacy. Yeah, there ain't nothing you can't turn around by making it at a house in silver lake there you go um yeah but i just wasn't i mostly wanted to make sure i was getting the right cheese and the right like uh mustard with it so we went there's rules to that shit no but i just wanted to be like okay i wasn't fucking because i was like if it's a broke boy sandwich and you have coleman's mustard like from the uk i was like yeah we got we got we boy sandwich and you have Coleman's mustard, like from the UK, I was like.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Yeah, we got nice mustard. But the key is actually going to your grocery store deli and anyone will do this. Don't get the, I mean, whatever, get whatever you want. It literally is meaningless. But go, because at the deli, if they have bologna, which I guess they don't always do, they can cut it any thickness for you. So the first time I did the sandwich, I basically was like, can you cut one-inch discs of bologna for me? One inch? Yeah, it's about the size of like the hamburger. The shit we had, yeah, was two half-inch rounds.
Starting point is 00:07:59 That's true. Yeah, it's basically you get like a solid hamburger patties worth of bologna. And then you fry that motherfucker up. A little mustard. Provolone. And then the innovation we had was the oil that we used to fry the bologna was pepperoni grease. And the only way to get pepperoni grease is to fry up a bunch of pepperoni first anyway
Starting point is 00:08:27 Miles and I are about to die we couldn't bring Jack in on this because he does have a family he has people who depend on him yeah and with your wife being in medicine healthcare would be like if you eat that I'll sue you don't put these children at risk
Starting point is 00:08:43 I just wanted to make sure I had my memory correct on all those pieces. And it was. It was delicious. What kind of cheese? Provolone. Provolone. And he made a delicious coleslaw. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:55 A cabbage salad. Made of pepperoni. Made of pepperoni. Prosciutto. And just the fat part of bacon strips. He trimmed the fat off of bacon strips. You throw that meat away. And bodega fruit salad. I. And bodega fruit salad.
Starting point is 00:09:07 I did make bodega fruit salad. Oh, this is an actual recipe that I didn't come up with this. Someone told, I literally forget who, but someone taught me this recipe in New York because it is the, if you only have 10 minutes and you have to bring something nice-ish to someone's
Starting point is 00:09:24 party, you can get the three ingredients for this thing at any bodega in New York and pretty much any store. All you need is fresh mint, dates, dried dates, and oranges. And you just combine. You dice cube the oranges and chop up everything else and mix it all together. And then the acid from the orange juice leeches out all the sugar from the dates. It's like crazy sweet. It's delicious.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Oh, wow. That sounds amazing. And we're living like Bodega Kings. It really was. Yeah, we had a real like a bodega bash. There we go. Something like we might be some kind of bodega boys, I guess. Oh, never.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I mean, one day. We can only wish that was show on show time. What happens to the bologna when it gets fried up? It just tastes nice and... It gets crispy. He was cutting slits in it
Starting point is 00:10:17 so it didn't do the disc, like it didn't invert suddenly and become concave. Oh, wow. I think the key is, it's a little bit, actually, it was only Miles' presence that made me
Starting point is 00:10:28 draw parallels to Japanese Hawaiian cuisine, but it is a lot like a spam musubi. It's like that processed meat. Potted meat with char on it. That's pretty much all you bring to the table. Can't go wrong. What is something
Starting point is 00:10:43 you think is underrated besides fried bologna sandwiches? On that note, actually, as a tangent to that, but it includes fried bologna, is I've been steaming meats lately. Steamed meats. Steamed meats. Okay. Because I went, oh, you know what? This would have been also an acceptable search history. This would have been also an acceptable search history. But somehow my Instagram suggestions has decided that one thing I'm very interested in is, you know what?
Starting point is 00:11:14 It must have been from Salt Bay, but now I'm getting all kinds of Turkish meats suggested in my Instagram, like, suggested feeds, I guess. I don't know. Explore page. Yeah, right, the Explore page. It's real, real wild. But basically, yeah, for, it must have been, maybe it was Christmas. It was the last time I saw my family. So, yeah, Christmas time.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I was in charge of the Christmas lunch slash dinner. We eat at a weird time. And I did like beef ribs, basically like a layer of apple cider. This has become a weird cooking show. I'm sorry. A layer of apple cider vinegar and soy sauce and then veggies and then a rack and then the ribs on top and then foil on top of that. Low, low, low heat for like eight hours. Whoa. And that shit is so, low heat for like eight hours. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:12:08 And that shit is so tender, the bones like slide out. So tender as tinder. Correct. Oh, my goodness. And then you just put it in super high heat or put it on a pan for like, you know, until there's color on the outside. It's so good. Okay, steamed meats in the building. Steamed motherfucking meats.
Starting point is 00:12:24 It sounds disgusting disgusting is there any preparation of meats that is like you never hear about steamed meats is there a steamed meat i would have had uh like in a regular i mean well the reason i bring it up is bologna i think is basically like the the the way they put together the big ballon is whatever filler and gristle, and then they steam that log. Got it. And that's why it's that very unnerving texture. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:12:54 And you were saying it gets kind of creamy when you grill it up? Yeah. Well, it stays creamy, but you notice the creaminess because you get the texture on the outside, and the contrast brings out the creaminess. I don't know. I don't think it makes it more creamy. Right, right. I don't know about meat physics, guys. Yeah, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Well, this is the first episode of Bologna Boys. What is something you think is overrated? Pronouncing shit correctly. Yes. I just, I mean. Oh, we just had Valentine's Day. That's fine. I said that shit yesterday.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Valentine's Day. The library. It's all fine. Yeah. Some things I don't like. Like milk. I don't mind that. And the LK.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Try me again. Crayon. Crayon. Just crayon. Crayons. Pillow. Crowns. And thatrayon. Just crayon. Crayons. Pillow. Crowns. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Everything else is fine. Just don't come around me saying pillow. Milk is kind of, or milk is somewhat appropriate because it sounds like you have a milk bubble in your throat as you're saying it. Or what about both? Both? Both? Like both with a W?
Starting point is 00:14:03 Both, but with like an L. Both. Oh yeah, both. Like, you Both, but with like an L. Both. Oh, yeah, both. Like, you know, it sounds like people are saying both. No, man. Or multiply. Multiply. I used to go to high school in grocery and say multiply like multiply.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Yeah, I'm fine with all that. Yeah. There's almost no level of community. Like, you know, you get it. Who cares? Yeah. Yeah, I don't care. I just like, I guess you know what it is.
Starting point is 00:14:23 It's more that like I have just my ear picks it up and then I just kind of get fixed. I'm like, ha, both? Yeah. Yeah, I don't care. I just like, I guess you know what it is. It's more that like I have just my ear picks it up and then I just kind of get fixed. I'm like, ha, both. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There we go. Excuse me, ma'am. Doile. Doile.
Starting point is 00:14:34 I'm just saying it's overrated. I mean, look, all of us are. Jack's pretty close. But everyone else in podcasting is like, we're, you you know we have a vested interest in busting out of that like news broadcaster like a method of speaking right so oh yeah fuck that shit yeah my mom can't even listen she's like you curse so much it's like i don't even know half the words you use i so we're not broadcasting we're we're podcasting i thought I was cutting out the ums and ahs from my speech. And I think I genuinely have, like, since I've been forced to listen to myself on microphones so much.
Starting point is 00:15:12 But it's not even close to good or professional. Yeah, yeah. Come on, baby. That's why we podcast. Listening to yourself is. The worst. The worst. Finally, what is a myth?
Starting point is 00:15:23 What's something people think is true you know to be false? I did not realize the number of people that thought counting cards like you do in blackjack was about literally counting every single card that came out. Like saying one, two, three. Yeah, like, okay, ace of spades, ace of clubs, five of diamonds. That is impossible. Right. I mean, I'm sure it's not actually impossible.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Not for the greats. But yeah, but it's that is impossible right i mean as i'm sure it's not actually impossible for the greats but yeah but it's not necessary you can gain a statistical edge on the house just by keeping track of the difference between the number of high cards and low cards that have been out right it's actually a system for simplifying the process of like yeah knowing where you are in the deck essentially yeah rather than using like a memory mansion or whatever like yeah and it's It's a system for simplifying the process of knowing where you are in the deck, essentially. Yeah. Rather than using a memory mansion or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:09 And it's super easy, is the thing. Right. Yeah. I mean, the only thing about counting cards in Blackjack is that the stakes are very high if you fuck up. Right. Because it matters. You can't be off by one, or you can, but it changes the math significantly if you're off by anything.
Starting point is 00:16:26 But really, it's just like you're just going like, minus one, plus one, plus one, plus one, minus one, plus one, plus one, minus one, minus one, minus one, plus one. You know what we should do? Just let's go to Vegas. Get thrown out of a casino. I almost did last time I was there. Oh, really? I wasn't actually even counting cards, but my friend was playing a weird version of blackjack wherein- You have a piece of paper out and you write out all the cards that have come out i mean technically you can it's not illegal but um no it was it was a version wherein like blackjacks were like extra
Starting point is 00:16:56 valuable somehow or something like that and so obviously you can only get blackjacks when there are a lot of aces left in the deck and thus it makes sense to keep track of how many aces have been played. Is this good for just single deck or if you're in a six to eight deck shoe? It's just about the proportion. Okay. All right. Yeah. You could do any number of decks.
Starting point is 00:17:17 It's hard to keep track. Well, CardSharks, hit us up with your tips. Card counting is, in movies, it's like you see all the numbers going around people's head. Yeah, it's one of those genius tropes from movies that aren't actually signs of genius, like figuring out a Rubik's Cube really quickly. Yeah, exactly. No, there's just a trick to that. You don't have to do
Starting point is 00:17:35 that. Exactly, right. It's that like, I guess if you could very quickly in the moment independently figure out the trick, that would be a genius thing to do. I just invented card counting. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:49 If you could independently derive card counting and do it as if – because it's just like a mindless skill that you can practice, that any fool could practice. So that's my challenge to the Zeitgang. Everyone get out there. Yep. Start recording your winnings. And whoever makes the most off of Andrew T's method will get a guest spot.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Yep. So taking down the house did not need to be a group of students from an Ivy League school. It could have been a group of Arizona State students or whatever. Hey, man, Sun Devils, dude. Come on. I know. No shout out to Arizona State. I'm just saying, go do it, guys.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Anyone could execute. I think the idea behind that book was a little bit like, oh, they derived the card counting scheme. Right, right, right. But it's not that hard. All right. Let's talk about Nike, guys. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:36 So there was a gentleman you might remember who broke into the news cycle. His name was Stephen Martin. He saw the Nike ad featuring Cap and he decided he was going to sell off all of his Nike inventory in his Colorado sports apparel store and refused to sell Nike stuff going forward. So that was earlier within the last calendar year. It was like October, I think,
Starting point is 00:19:03 when the Cap ad came out. Yeah, so like four to five months ago. Or September, yeah. And he knew it might hurt business, but he was willing to make that sacrifice because he knew that the American people would be on his side in the end. And what's happening now, Miles?
Starting point is 00:19:21 Well, I mean, as he said, people were like, yo, this is a big move. He said, yes. His own quote was, being a sports star without Nike is like being a gas station without gas. Whoa. If you knew that, your business model is fucked, my man. And he even said, you don't trample over the men who have given Colin Kaepernick and me the right to free speech. Because, again, he obscured what his protest was about.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Right. And cut to now. The store has to close because lack of business, because he's a gas station that doesn't sell gas. Yeah. And he has the quote that is the most satisfying quote that I've read thus far this year. He said, as much as I hate to admit this, perhaps there are more Colin Kaepernick supporters out there than I realized. Yeah, dude. Well, I mean, but it's also like, no. It's not even that it's that.
Starting point is 00:20:13 It's not even that. Unfortunately, there's more people who don't want to wear Reebok than he realized. But also it's like a thing. It's like his, what was it? He was counting on that core, like 33 and change percent of racists being so enthused. It would be like, well, I have to buy some. I'm buying my next badminton set there. I mean, this is what he did is exactly what Howard Schultz is doing. He is making a broad judgment about what the consistency of the American public is and what their likes and dislikes are based on presumably a handful of people he surrounds himself with. And so he thinks that everybody is as mad at Nike as he is.
Starting point is 00:21:05 So he's going to, you know, get in on this business opportunity to like get the whole town voting with their wallet for him and against Colin Kaepernick. And it turns out people were not as much on his side as he thought. as he thought, just like Howard Schultz does not have as much support as he thought when he was on the golf course talking to his friends who are all billionaires. Friends and employees. I think it was literally a fishbowl he wore on his head where his voice just echoed into his own skull. Right, Howard?
Starting point is 00:21:37 Right, yeah. Oh, I'm doing it. I'm running. Let's talk about Amazon, you guys. Amazon bailed. They bailed. HQ too. Peace out. Peace out, Long Island City. Now you see what you did. You Amazon, you guys. Amazon bailed. They bailed. HQ too. Peace out.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Peace out, Long Island City. Now you see what you did. You see what you did. You do the nice thing and offer one of the biggest companies on earth $3 billion giveaway in taxes and shit, and then misread the room when locals are getting really upset about that? Yeah. So I was not able to fully catch up on this. How,
Starting point is 00:22:05 how did like, was it actually the protest that that shit actually, well, there was like, there was a United front of New York politicians who were like, this is fucked. And they were pushing back a lot. And I think Amazon at one point was sort of testing the wire and be like,
Starting point is 00:22:19 well, we could leave all, you know, you for that to happen. And they were like, yeah, all right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Then what? And then they're like yeah all right yeah then what and then they're like oh fuck yeah like this isn't gonna this isn't gonna end and yes i think a lot of people especially activists who were opposed to amazon coming through and wrecking the city uh this is definitely a victory for them because i mean going up against a multinational gigantic behemoth like amazon you're like you'd think it's a foregone conclusion yeah at the same time the way it's being covered by the politicos of the world is Amazon to New York drop dead that's the headline on the front page of politico so it's like Amazon screws New York is how it's being read in a lot of the mainstream media dumps New York before they could get dumped right what a fortnight for jeff bezos
Starting point is 00:23:05 i know exactly what a time right what a time to be jeff bezos i mean you think right i don't understand still like why it ended up in new york when again the whole thing was a little weird when it was like what's what city is gonna beg us the hardest yeah hardest for us to come here to save their dying town only to go to New York? Like a city that is not in the process of deteriorating. They're like many other cities that could have actually benefited from it. Right. A barrel and just, you know, fuck them for all the money that they possibly could that wars was just meant to like drive up the – give them leverage, like invent leverage essentially. Of like what concessions are you willing to make?
Starting point is 00:24:14 Because obviously no fucking person who is like – has any power or money at Amazon wants to live anywhere besides one of four cities in the United States. It's not like they're going to open this place in Wichita or whatever. That's why it's HQ2 and not main HQ. The lesser people work there. I don't know what they're thinking. They're never going to go to some right-wing
Starting point is 00:24:42 tax haven or whatever. No one fucking wants to live in those, like, backwards-ass places. So it was always going to be someplace like New York. Right. So they had to pretend, like, oh, we might not bring it to New York. Right. Well, I mean, look, Bezos could have been the fucking king of New York if he had been like, I don't need $3 billion from y'all. I'll do this anyway.
Starting point is 00:25:00 And guess what? I'll bless the MTA with, like, some shit and fix your subway. Something like that. Like, and then get people more on board but instead coming in be like give me this give me that give me that oh i might make your uh housing market even more yeah impossible yeah you don't weird it's almost like tech people uh are just people that had like one kind of good idea at a time when the barrier for that was uh very low but actually they're just as short-sighted as any other type of business person. Yeah. You don't become a billionaire by having empathy for large groups of people and deciding to do right by society. You become a billionaire by finding a
Starting point is 00:25:38 huge imbalance and exploiting the shit out of it over and over and over again until you have all the money. And that's what he was trying to create with this whole process. And once he had it, people were like, that doesn't seem okay. And he was like, fine then, I'm taking my ball and going home. And I'm sure the rich are going to be like, this is just like Atlas Shrugged, dude. This is like, you know, you fuck with us, you don't let us do whatever we want, and we're going to take our ball and go home. And now we'll see how screwed you are. By the way, it's like, please, billionaires, fuck off to your gulch.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Yeah. I would love to see you all leave and leave your money behind, though. No, who cares? That group of millionaires and billionaires were like please take taxes they're like because we know you're you'll probably come for us with your pitchforks like 40 years it's like so please taxes that are taxes like the top marginal rate of taxes is a like not going to the guillotine payment right Right. That's what it's for. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Oh, well, you know, chin up, Bezos. Yeah. You know, hopefully he'll recover from this one. But yeah, AOC is now calling for the abolition of billionaires, which seems like a good... I mean, we got to draw a line somewhere. Why not make it a billion? Yeah. A billion seems like too much. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:04 I think billion's too much. I'm going to be honest.ion seems like too much. Yeah. I think billion's too much. I'm going to be honest. 900 million's too much. I think... Now Andrew... But now we're negotiating. Yeah, here we go. All right, 99.99.
Starting point is 00:27:17 And now you got me to come to the table. Hey, all right. We're going to take a quick break, and we'll be right back. All right, we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia.
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Starting point is 00:31:07 dreams dream sequence is a new horror thriller from blumhouse television iheart radio and realm listen to dream sequence on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts And we're back. And President Deals narrowly averted another shutdown. There will be no shutdown. All right. Because he got all the funding for his—oh, wait, no, he got less funding than he— Could have ever asked for. wait, no, he got less funding than he initially asked for and was granted before the first shutdown. But in addition to signing that deal, he is also going to declare a national emergency.
Starting point is 00:31:58 So yeah, he wins, I guess, right? I mean, look, you avert one problem and start up a whole other one baby because his president fires because he's constantly starting them and yeah look the government's funded great you know when you look though at how far this deal fell apart you really like even if you're a republican you have to be like yo this guy fucking sucks right because if you remember in 2017 democrats were willing to give him 25 billion to get the dreamers a path to citizenship. They put 25 on the table. 25 billion for his wall. Yes, for his wall.
Starting point is 00:32:33 And he was like, nah, I need more. Do they do we even what is the projection for actually building this thing? It was something astronomical that didn't even make sense. And it was a thing that wasn't feasible anyway. But they're like, dude, 25. But in exchange, help people who were brought here as children try and get a path to citizenship. He said, hell no. Then he made another offer like early last year. That was really firm.
Starting point is 00:32:55 The Democrats laughed him out the room. Then in December, what they offer him like 1.6 after he totally lost the House. He completely burned through the years where he had control of Congress. Right. Loses the house. Now you have an even weaker position. Here's 1.6 billion. He says, no, shutdown begins.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Now you are eating 1.375 for slats, no concrete, and only 55 miles of that shit. So that's why, you know, I think a lot of people, especially on Fox, listen to how on Fox they realize, too, on paper, they're like, then why do we shut the government down only for you to eat this tiny ass deal and then do an end around by declaring a state of emergency? I think he knows right now the numbers that have been released. The deal looks like it stinks. It really does. I mean, a lot of people on the right are going to be sitting there and saying, what was the whole point of the shutdown? Because I think people thought you shut down the government to try to budge the Democrats. And if they didn't budge, your next step was going to be declaring a national emergency. So I think now he's unfortunately in a position where he put out there in the very same way he has to learn to stop doing this. He put out there, you know, Mexico is going to pay for the wall. Didn't work out that way. He
Starting point is 00:33:59 put out there, I'm not going to budge. I'm going to dig my heels in. And then when you don't, people are disappointed in you. So no matter what he does now, now he's saying, oh, I'm going to dig my heels in. And then when you don't, people are disappointed in you. So no matter what he does now, now he's saying, oh, I'm going to redirect more other federal funds into this. So don't worry, you're still going to get the wall. We're still going to figure it out, even if I have to do it by executive order. But the thing is that this shutdown, this whole shutdown was was completely absurd and a waste of time if it wasn't going to force him to kind of say, you know what, my way or the highway because this is a national emergency. Either it's a national emergency or it's not.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Sorry, Fred Durst. It ended up being the highway. It's a good thing he doesn't tune into the Rachel Maddow show because she was really giving it to him there, huh? Was that not who that was? Oh, that was Fox? And again, that's why Fox, you know, they also, because they're in his ear and he just lives through the TV and he's like, oh no, they're mad at me. I couldn't just, because the funny thing was he even fucked up the opportunity, right?
Starting point is 00:34:58 A normal sort of sane president could have pointed to the statistics that said illegal crossings were at an all-time low. Yeah. And just flexed and been like, flawless victory, Mortal Kombat, do something about it. Right. But he didn't, and instead obscured those numbers and created an emergency that is not there. Right. Since we know that Trump is a puppet being operated by many people, but one of the main operators is, you know, Rupert Murdoch dictating down to Fox. Like why,
Starting point is 00:35:27 why aren't they just finding the silver lining and declaring a victory on this? Like, so clearly like someone has an interest in keeping this going. Well, because they're the fallout of declaring an emergency. It sets up a lot of weird shit in the future. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I don't think it's like a one-to-one okay murdoch speaks everybody immediately comes like snaps to i think it's probably more of a situation where murdoch has a heavy hand on the scale but they still employ a bunch of people who consider themselves journalists right right so there's going to be a couple days before right i guess that's true yeah there's always like every time something happens there's going to be a couple days before they really get it. Right, I guess that's true. There's always like every time something happens, there's always clearly like the throw it at the wall period on Fox News. We'll talk about it for like a day. And they try all kinds of different shit. Okay, that makes more sense. dilemma that the Republicans face is, okay, so now he's done something unprecedented and is using
Starting point is 00:36:26 this declaration of an emergency to further this policy goal that is like, it's just, it's all rhetoric that he was, and he's obscuring it. This whole emergency is manufactured. And a lot of people on the right were begging him to not do this because they can see, well, what happens when a Democrat is president and goes, oh, guess what? Climate change is an emergency. And now I need all this money and I'm doing this shit. Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:36:49 It's an emergency. Or what if they say climate change is an emergency? That would be crazy. Or gun control, right? And then that's what they're quaking about in their little booties, their boots, because this is a tactic that was not used before. And again, causes another problem because what he's done is circumvented the legislative process because, you know, in literally article one of
Starting point is 00:37:12 the constitution says that the Congress has the powers of appropriation. They control the purse. So by him doing this, he's now stepping on their toes. And now you got stuff a little legal about it except for the fact that like in the last like 15 years 10 for sure probably 15 10 10 15 years like like i feel like the left has come out on the short end of the stick on every sort of like asymmetric line crossing yes like literally like whether it be like supreme court and it's like the best they can point back to is like Bork, I guess. You know, like everything else, like just every time either the Democrats cave or like, you know, hypocrisy in my adult life has not held, you know, any conservative politician back. Right. So there is that.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Like, I mean, I guess I would be like, are they really quaking in their boots? Because they'll just lie when it's 2021. It will require a wholesale sea change on behalf of the Democrats to now. And I don't think it's completely unrealistic now that people who vote for Democrats pay attention to politics much more closely than they used to and are, you know, much less willing to budge. But, yeah, I agree. There's been both sides ism like, well, we have to work together on the side of the Democrats because they listen to the mainstream media who are horny for like people who cross the aisle. for like people who cross the aisle and oh right right right you know whereas on the right like they take their marching orders from fox news and fox news is just like fucking scorched earth man let's take them down i will say the other thing you know speaking of like oh well at least you're at the table like despite the fact that this is like you know in a sense a loss for trump
Starting point is 00:39:02 we're still like putting a price tag on racism and people's humanity so like in a sense, a loss for Trump. We're still, like, putting a price tag on racism and people's humanity. So, like, in a sense, we all lose, too. Like, we're in the muck. And, like, we are just straight up debating, well, okay, what's the value of, like, it's not like this is wrong and you're a racist. It's, like, it's a waste of money. Right. What's the cost? Yeah. what's the cost yeah what's the
Starting point is 00:39:26 cost to be the boss depressing right uh yeah and i think inevitable but depressed yeah and what's tough too is like you know nancy pelosi has a couple options right like obviously there'll be lawsuits because they're going to say this is illegal and unconstitutional to move money around because mcmulvaney is saying things like well there's actually money in some emergency like military funds for like Northern California and Puerto Rico that we could just slide over here that hasn't been used yet. So that's where the money will come from.
Starting point is 00:39:52 And I think that's a very targeted thing. I mean, like because of the wildfires and hurricane. Yeah. Just being like, and also those are constituencies that Trump doesn't need to win over anyway. And I think it's also like, fuck it. Like then your money's gone. And, you know, with that, because of the National Emergencies Act, there is a clause in which if one chamber tries to vote to terminate this declaration of an emergency, it would and it passes one house, it would force the other the other chamber. So,
Starting point is 00:40:21 you know, easily Nancy Pelosi could could pass that in the House, then we go to the Senate, other chamber. So easily, Nancy Pelosi could pass that in the House. Then we'll go to the Senate, and that would force Senate Republicans to be on record and say whether or not they support this emergency act. And if you're in Florida or other states where people are on the fence, and you're trying to defend a border wall that is just nationally unpopular, you're going to have a public fracturing in the Republican Party in the Senate. Now, even if that passes, that doesn't mean they can actually terminate it because, anyway know, anyway, legally it can't happen that way. But it would force Republicans to go on record and split with the president. And, you know, that could be used against them and anyone running for office.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Yeah. At the same time, like, is there what what is the eventual like news story once they start building the wall? Isn't it all just going to be fox news showing pictures of a half-built wall being like they're building the wall and everybody like shooting their guns off in the air like well i don't see what the negative story is that comes out that really drives home what a bullshit political cause this is what do you mean like well right now it's unpopular but it's not necessarily the sort of thing that would lose somebody an election. Oh, sure, sure. I think it's just that, again, it'll probably be a thing that when a Democrat president tries to do the same thing, they'll just cry and act as if this has never happened before.
Starting point is 00:41:37 But it will have set the precedent where now a president with different values than them, as Nancy Pelosi said, could just trigger some shit that they absolutely hate. But yeah, Jack, I think what you were saying, too, about the border wall, it's like it's just a racist monument. Right. Like it actually also won't hurt anyone. Right. You know what I mean? It won't have quite the negative effects that I think we're all thinking because it's just a waste of money and a racist monument and shores up that sentiment. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:07 But it doesn't actually do anything. So there is kind of that thing. Right. Like no one's getting you're not going to see pictures of like children dying at that wall or anything like that. So it doesn't mean anything. Yeah. I guess that's why like the thing that Democrats have been able to win, like run on and win on is health care, because that's something where the Republican position kills people, kills you and your family.
Starting point is 00:42:33 The wall, even if it's unpopular, it doesn't seem like it's going to be a wedge issue that the left can ever like fully leverage in their direction other than just like. left can ever like fully leverage in their direction other than just like yeah i mean i think if anything you're just going to circle the wagons with your base and you might not move the many people the other way but i guess the other thing too is like even mick mulvaney said like the army corps of engineers is still like in a testing phase of what they could even possibly build so like even then it's a long way off and then when you bring in the idea of a court battle into this of them arguing you know can they prove that this is an emergency? They cannot. Like all the stats say like illegal crossings have been on a decline since, you know, for years now.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Why was it an emergency then? Yeah. Or why was it an emergency before? And then also the Constitution, the constitutional aspect of it is a whole other thing. I mean, it's, you know, hold on to your bus. The institutional aspect of it is a whole other thing. I mean, it's, you know, hold on to your butts. I guess I could see one eventuality being that while the Army Corps of Engineers is down there building that wall, the Canadians come from the north and invade America.
Starting point is 00:43:38 And, you know, we all know that's coming eventually. I, for one, bow to our Canadian over there. Yes. I mean, we've been flanked. We've been outflanked tactically. All right. Let's talk briefly about the Russia stuff. Yeah. So Andrew McCabe,
Starting point is 00:43:50 I guess this isn't technically the Russia stuff. This is more... Well, yeah. It's Russia tea. It's Russian tea. Right, Russian tea. FBI tea. Oh, that's what we should call you. FBI tea. I'm a narc. Since there's another government,
Starting point is 00:44:06 former government official writing a book, that means more gossip is coming out. Like every time someone has a book, it's just a headline or two that everyone goes, Oh my God, but it's shit we already knew. So this time it's Andrew McCabe saying that there were discussions at DOJ of using the 25th amendment to remove Trump.
Starting point is 00:44:22 And like there were conversations about, okay, who in the cabinet is on our team? Is this possible? Rod Rosenstein's like, nah, nah, that's... He's like, nah, that's very inaccurate. But it's interesting timing considering Mr. Barr has just been confirmed as the new Attorney General.
Starting point is 00:44:40 And we'll see what happens there. But again, it's just more a story that maybe people at DOJ were thinking about how to get rid of this president, especially to when they were looking at sort of all the evidence in front of them. They're like, we need to launch an obstruction investigation that hopefully will have enough momentum that someone can't stop it. So, you know, yeah, shit, we already knew.
Starting point is 00:45:01 The thing that always bums me out about this story is that the FBI seemed to be most up in arms and outraged about Trump after Comey was fired. And, like, Comey's such a schmuck. Yeah. Like, it's just, it's hard to be like, yeah, let's take him down for firing Comey. Like, what did the FBI even want? Right. even want right but i think for the analysts and people who actually saw all the evidence that they like in which they believe that russia helped to fuck an election yeah i think there's plenty of motivation for law enforcement there for even people who are like of principle to be like we're
Starting point is 00:45:37 looking at the facts like we can't how the fuck are we just gonna do anything here i mean but i think lots of fbi agents are like the fuck we're gonna do is not do anything and. Totally. I mean, but I think lots of FBI agents are like, the fuck we're gonna do is not do anything and take a bigger budget. Right. I mean, that's clearly a high enough proportion of FBI people's, like, calculus. Yeah. And as much as Comey is... That's why we are where we are. As much as Comey has
Starting point is 00:45:58 proved himself to be kind of a asshole, like, narcissist, it is... I totally see why that would have been the moment where they're like, like, narcissist. It is, I totally see why that would have been the moment where they're like, whoa, this guy's, like, acting like he has something terrible to hide. Right. Like, we should either really put the pedal to the metal
Starting point is 00:46:17 on this investigation or talk to the people in his cabinet about, like, what they're seeing, like, how they're feeling about shit. You know, like Paul Manafort. Right. Hey, what's he up to? Oh, he's mana-fucked. Officially.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Our boy, well, maybe. It's again, all the pardoning. But, you know, we said that Robert Mueller was like, yo, this guy was lying to us and he breached his cooperation deal with us and we need to punish him for this. And so Manafort's defense team was like, okay, well, what are you saying? He lied about Manafort. Mueller comes with five examples.
Starting point is 00:46:52 He only needed to prove one to show that he violated the cooperation agreement. And Judge Amy Berman Jackson determined that Mueller could definitely prove that he was lying on three of the five accounts of certain deceptions that he intentionally lied to him and other investigators about his contacts with Russian people and some other kickback payments. But the one that is most very juicy of all the lies that are exposed specifically is around his contacts with Konstantin Kalimnik, who, if you're not an actual journalist, you'd be like, this dude's a spy. If you're a journalist, you say, someone who has connections to Russian intelligence. But we'll just call him a quote-unquote spy.
Starting point is 00:47:31 And was meeting up with him, you know, exchanging at a New York cigar bar at, guess where, 666 Fifth Avenue. How poetic. The old Kushner building. At this Havana Club cigar bar, whatever it's called. And Manafort was bringing internal polling data and other voter file information. Kalimnik was giving him messages from Oleg Deripaska.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Rick Gates was there. And that's where they discuss a, quote unquote, Ukrainian peace deal, which just means, yo, peace the fuck out of Ukraine so we can just annex this shit. That's my Ukraine. Don't say anything, bruh. Right. And so, yeah. So that's them behaving in such a way that it would benefit Putin.
Starting point is 00:48:11 They are. Like the central thing that keeps coming up is that Trump and his administration and the people working for him keep behaving as if they're part of Vladimir Putin's administration. Yeah. Or at the very least that they have to lie about the nature of their discussions with Russian entities about relieving sanctions. And again, there are many ways that people look at it. Some people think that the whole
Starting point is 00:48:34 Trump Tower thing was for him to just lose and just run off to this mega deal the second he lost the presidential election and get that check. And then some people believe like maybe Russia was like, nah bro, you're going to win. Sorry, because we need this shit and we need you in there. So you're the president now.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Either way, the quid pro quo is starting to become very clear here of what was going on. And now this Mueller prosecutor, Andrew Weissman, says in the filing, he's like this meeting goes to the, quote, very heart of the investigation, which is the nature of contacts with people in the Trump organization and campaign with Russian intelligence and other entities. But yeah, this is just again, it's no matter which way you cut it, right? Like you look at how Manafort was lying. It's that he's either lying because he's he can't roll on these oligarchs because the existential danger is amazing. The threat is insane, right?
Starting point is 00:49:27 And that's why he didn't say anything. Or another one is because he had to protect the president because the alternative is, right, maybe if he told the truth and cooperated, the truth could be so damning to the president that the president might not even have the ability to pardon him. So you have to just lie, take that L, and cross your fingers, hope to die that the president will pardon you. This is Judge Napolitano talking about, I don't know, trying to set up some kind of logic in which we are sympathetic to Paul Manafort going to jail for most of his life. Real quick, what happened with Paul Manafort yesterday?
Starting point is 00:50:00 They found that his deal blew up because he wasn't being candid with the Mueller investigation. Here's what they did with Paul Manafort. I never heard of this before. They found that he his deal blew up because he wasn't being candid With the with the mother that they did with Paul Manafort. I never heard heard of this before They had him testify before the same grand jury that indicted him and that then a federal judge found that he lied to that Grand jury this tells me that an old counselor No, I will go five alleged lies. She found that he committed tells me, A, he's exposed to more than 20 years in jail. That is so much jail time, he might very well be accounted for. He's 69. For a pardon, and the public might accept the pardon.
Starting point is 00:50:34 It also tells me, B, Mueller is still on the hunt. Yeah. And also, this dude is, what, 69 years old, Paul Manafort? Yeah. You might as well just get that, ask you which one of your tombstone now. Right. Take thatstone now. Right. Take that polonie. Take that polonium tea.
Starting point is 00:50:49 It's polonium tea, 500 Big Macs, or jail cell for the rest of your life. Polonium tea, also a dope nickname for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, here we go. But yeah, I mean, it's getting spicy. And look, again, the president declaring this emergency took all the wind out of the McCabe story and the Manafort story. Well, there seems to be a general trend in the mainstream media that the only thing I'm hearing about the Mueller report is that there might not be a report that we ever get to see, that it might not have the details that we're all expecting.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Like, it seems to be that the mainstream media and like, if you look at the front page of drudge, there's a lot of links about this, but there he's linking off to like ABC news and shit like that, where they're talking about how like the Mueller report isn't going to be shit. Like get used to it. Libs.
Starting point is 00:51:37 I mean, just think about this, right? If Paul Manafort, who is one of the only people that Trump has repeatedly been like, this guy's a Patriot man, they're fucking him over. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:45 That's because he's telling lies that Trump is probably like, okay, this is what we're going to tell him. Right. Now your boy is caught up in three of these motherfucking lies. Right. And so what does that mean for what Trump's written testimony was or what narrative he was going to try and pursue? The other thing is because now this judge has determined
Starting point is 00:52:02 that he violated his cooperation agreement by lying to investigators intentionally they right that they verified the intent of his lying it's hard for him to be able to take if he has any um conflicting testimony with people like rick gates and and the defense for other people are going to be like oh well rick gates is a lie i mean paul manafort look i mean he disagrees with him and it doesn't matter anymore because Paul Manafort has been determined to be a liar. So he can't even fuck the party up like he thought he could by trying to contradict other testimony because my man, you've already been stamped with the liar. Like no one's going to use you as a defense anymore. Yeah. And just actually before we wrap
Starting point is 00:52:38 this whole Manafort thing up, I, there is one clip that people on Twitter always recycle and on, you know, news news blogs we like to recycle this clip of when Paul Manafort was asked point blank on the news during the campaign about Trump's connections to Russia. And when you, with all of this news now, just listen to this humming and hawing is really one of my favorite moments of someone squirming. Mr. Trump has no financial relationships with any Russian oligarchs. That's what he said.
Starting point is 00:53:07 That's what I said. That's obviously what our position is. Wow. Peace, bro. Peace. Peace. Oh, man. I know you can't convict someone for sounding like a liar, but this is fucking nuts.
Starting point is 00:53:24 It's always so nuts. Well, that's what I said. That's clearly our position. We're not Russian. What? If you just spontaneously broke into Russian. And just from a macro perspective, I feel like it's probably not the worst thing in the world
Starting point is 00:53:42 for mainstream media to start getting people's expectations a little bit in check, because I do think that a lot of America now, because we've, you know, spent the last two years just, you know, scrambling over every scrap of details about the Mueller investigation, that people are expecting just a smoking gun. And he might not be able to prove without a doubt that Trump... Maybe without a 100% nailed on. But I think any reasonable jury, if this were any other case, would be like, oh, yeah, this stinks.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Oh, I could... Yeah. But I worry a little bit that even if he sort of legally has a smoking gun we're at the point where he has seen enough about you know he and his team and the you know justice department have seen enough about how you know the people of interest in this case behave that like the those people trump and and cronies have no problem fully taking this to the end of democracy. Yes. Right, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Until the wheels come off, yeah. There is a real chance that he may decide he has to blink because if he has evidence that wholly, indisputably puts Trump in jail, let's say. Right. substitutively puts puts trump you know in jail let's say right like given the composition of our supreme court given the composition of our senate like the you know end of society is he puts that shit out and nothing happens right like it you know that's it that's a wrap on representative democracy right and arguably maybe that was also the wrap on Iran Contra like look maybe it's been a rap but you know this will be it when he puts shit out there and they're like we don't care
Starting point is 00:55:30 and Mitch McConnell's like we don't care and you know the Supreme Court's like it's good then what do we do like nothing then we'd fully have a dictatorship that's it we're making a show about the possibility of a second American civil war with Robert Evans from Behind the Bastards. And one of the clips in there, just it's amazing.
Starting point is 00:55:52 You have to hear it when the show eventually comes out. It's going to be a really good show. But one of the clips in there has people on the right, I think it's Alex Jones and somebody from the NRA talking about basically like the streets will run red with blood if Trump is impeached. So, yeah, on their side, they're ready to like they're ready to go, man. I think I think it's even potentially less like it doesn't even have to be a civil war, though. It's like if Trump is impeached, nothing happens. And then we shrug and we don't know what to do. I don't even know if it's like a piece of like, you know, outward civil war immediately. It doesn't even have to be that.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Well, I for one am going to take to the streets and fall down and start crying. I for one, again, our Canadian overlords, please save us. Yeah, exactly. I know. I can't wait for Red Army peacekeepers to finally arrive on the shores of Los Angeles. And I'm giving a bouquet of flowers to a Canadian Mountaineer. Yeah, we need it. All right, we're going to take a quick break.
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Starting point is 01:00:02 All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:00:17 What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people.
Starting point is 01:00:33 There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from blumhouse television iheart radio and realm listen to dream sequence on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and so is the frozen franchise did i nail it or what, guys? Oh, I'm so stoked for Elsa and like- Ursula. Ursula, Ellen, you know, Let It Snow. Let It Snow.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Anna. Anna. Anna Karenina. I'm sorry. This is big. I'm so old and I don't know about DreamWorks or Disney things. DreamWorks. I think that's the first time somebody went DreamWorks before Disney.
Starting point is 01:01:31 What is up with your brain, Don? You know, just been playing too much at the Kino Lounge. They released a teaser for Frozen 2. Frozen 1 basically took over the world back in 2013. It was, especially if you had children back then, that's all you heard. But only back then. Back then, yes, exactly. That's all you heard was the let it go.
Starting point is 01:01:58 I was going to say let it snow. Let it snow. Let it snow. So they released the trailer for Frozen 2. It immediately became the most watched animated film trailer ever. And it's dark, weirdly. It looks like they're going Empire Strikes Back or Harry Potter franchise that grows up with its audience type thing. Oh.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Because, yeah. It's like you're 12 now. Right. And I think you're ready to talk about this kind of shit. I feel like they took shots from the cold open of Annihilation. Yeah. It's really messed up. They said it's heavily influenced by Annihilation.
Starting point is 01:02:34 It seriously looks like it's so creepy. Yeah. I mean, Frozen was sporadically dark. Like, it had a really dark moment. Like, it had this generation's Bambi's mom getting shot moment when their parents just like are in a boat that just gets swallowed by a huge wave. And this teaser opens with her like running into a sea that looks very similar to that and trying to use her ice powers to like surf on it or something. and trying to use our ice powers to surf on it or something. But anyways, it just seems like they're really reveling in what's dark and violent about the frozen universe,
Starting point is 01:03:11 which is interesting. All right. Just trying to steal the kids for the inevitable civil war that our country's going to be in. Exactly. Get ready, kids. Get your ice powers ready. And I wanted to check in with newsweek real quick they need to get
Starting point is 01:03:28 it fucking together this is guys i don't on newsweek it's time to take a look at yourselves on twitter reddit this just headline went viral because when you clipped it out it was just saying snake bites man man bites wife so they can die together. Wife survives. So, Miles, you read that out loud. Just off the fucking headline, I'm questioning the science and the feasibility of a scenario in which, I guess if you love the transitive property. Yeah. Right. I'm bit by snake.
Starting point is 01:04:00 I am snake. I bite you. You are snake. And die. Zombie movie logic or you know right the transitive property
Starting point is 01:04:08 but this article goes on right let me just read because it's quick and it's absurd it says a man in India
Starting point is 01:04:15 who was attacked by a poisonous snake bit his wife's wrist because his final wish was for them to die together Shankar Rai was asleep in his home around 60 miles north
Starting point is 01:04:22 blah blah blah he was attacked by a serpent by the morning his condition had worsened. Fearing he did not have much time left, he held his wife's hand and said he wanted them to be united in death. He sunk his teeth into her wrists so the venom would kill them both,
Starting point is 01:04:34 and they fell unconscious, India Today reported. Witnesses described how doctors arrived and rushed him to the hospital. Although the venom claimed the life of Rai, his wife was rescued in time. Rescued from what? His fucking dirty- teeth right and the bacteria on his fucking front teeth but that's the thing newsweek does not even question that they just accept the logic of this india today story and they're just like okay also i guess snake bites are passed on by bite also by Also, Newsweek had no link to the original article, so I had to Google that shit. This article is from 2017.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Yes. And they just published this shit. This is like 50 different blog spam sins rolled up in one. And there's like literal word for word verbatim plagiarism happening in this Newsweek write-up, too. I don't know what happened. Who's the author of the Newsweek? Brendan Cole. Brendan Cole.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Brendan Cole, bro, we caught you cheating on your homework, or maybe you're just an algorithm because these fucking news sites don't hire humans anymore. And they're just like, let's just recycle. It's the robot that calls the news. Yeah. Right. I just, I don't, I'm hoping there's maybe a magical snake that gives you venomous saliva
Starting point is 01:05:47 or something because even in the article when they go they turn in the article to start talking about snakes I'm like okay maybe here's the part where they explain
Starting point is 01:05:54 how this is possible they just go like the World Health Organization says like a majority of venomous snakes live in Southeast Asia oh okay
Starting point is 01:06:01 well that explains it what the fuck does that mean I mean I guess there's rabies But nobody has ever thought that snake venom is passed on like rabies I don't know what It's just weird Yeah It's just weird and I was really mesmerized by the hell
Starting point is 01:06:18 I laughed Yeah Cause in my mind I was like come on bro She didn't die Also even the line where it says He sunk his teeth into her wrist so the venom would kill them, and they fell unconscious. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Stated with no comment. You know all those videos where you see somebody in a street fight bite someone on the wrist and they're knocked out? Right. Yeah. What the fuck? I assume she was just being nice. Or this story's fake.
Starting point is 01:06:43 This story is made up by India Today. They got it from Gulf News, so then I had to take it to the next level of the inception dream. And it was from a website called Gulf News under their India section. And again, that was even, like you could tell even the India Today was ripping this article off.
Starting point is 01:06:59 So this is clearly like viral marketing for scary stories to tell in the dark. I guess. Andrew, I honestly think This is clearly like viral marketing for scary stories to tell in the dark. Right. I guess. Something. I don't. Andrew, I honestly think the logic of this story is too stupid for scary stories to tell in the dark. I honestly believe that. If this happened in a children's spooky story movie, people would be like, wait, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:07:22 But that's not how snake bites work. This wouldn't work in a Disney movie. Yeah even even frozen 2 which is right i think even a kid's uh general curiosity they would they would probably flag this at first and be like but how did the snake how did the man become a venom mouth look as somebody with kids i found that offensive your impression impression of them. Yeah, well, kids are stupid, bro. I'm sorry. I'm smarter than kids.
Starting point is 01:07:48 But any kid is smarter than this dumbass algorithm. Seriously. Yeah. Should we try and find Brendan Cole on Twitter and just be like, my man, what are you doing? Hire reporters. Zeit gang, talk to Brendan Cole. Yeah. Find him on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Ask him. Let's try and get comment from Brendan Cole about what he was thinking. I'm sure he's going to be like, obviously, we were doing it tongue in cheek. But nah, man. I also have not washed my hands in 10 years. To add to that, Super Producer Nick Stubb, the thing he likes is that somehow the timing of the bite was so perfect that the venom overcame the the man who was the original bitee and then bit his wife in such a way that she passed out at the same time double
Starting point is 01:08:30 knockout style right yeah yeah like they bonked heads together and both get knocked out or the end of rocky too wait what he bit her and they both immediately and honestly i bite you you're gonna bite the ground yeah that's. I don't want to jump. There's going to be two bites. I don't want to jump to conclusions and I'm hoping that there's some kind of reptilologist in the Zeitgang
Starting point is 01:08:53 who goes, actually, there is a snake that could make your... Is that what it's called? A snake set of yours? Maybe that'd be reptile. Okay, great. Guys, I'm calling reptile dysfunction
Starting point is 01:09:03 on this story. Okay. great. Guys, I'm calling reptile dysfunction on this story. Okay. I hate myself and yes, Zeitgang, talk to you soon. Wow. Latent bomb. The latent bomb. The latest latent bomb yet and deservedly so. I mean, just so you know,
Starting point is 01:09:19 a past article this intrepid journalist has written was, tattooist illegally split tongue removed nipple and ear. Okay. So now we're going to have to call all of his work into question. I was going around believing that story in my day-to-day life. Briefly, the Oscars are continuing to be just a complete shit show. They are trying to fuck with the format so much.
Starting point is 01:09:43 First of all, as we already know, not having a host, they were going to try to have only two of the five nominated songs performed, and the Academy had to walk that back when Lady Gaga said she wouldn't perform unless all nominees were included, as is customary. And then they were going to not have last year's winners present the acting categories, which, again, these are not things that I would notice, but they are things that like it's like why would you why would you choose to go out on a limb this year when you've just fucked everything up about this award show and it seems like they're kind of in that panic mode where they're over correcting they're like we got to
Starting point is 01:10:22 get more celebrities out there we gotta make it make it shorter. We got to make it shorter. Yeah, that's the other thing. They're trying to make it shorter. So they've moved cinematography, film editing, as well as makeup and hair to the commercials. So those awards will be given out during commercials, presumably so they can fit in more just celebrities being celebrities. Some more dilly dilly ads. Being pretty instead of those ugly cinematographers. But Alfonso Cuaron pointed out in a tweet, he was like, there have been films without sound,
Starting point is 01:10:55 without color, without a story, without actors, without music. No film has ever existed without cinematography and without editing, motherfucker. Those are the two things that are inherent to our art form. Like, don't cut those out.
Starting point is 01:11:14 But that decision has not been reversed. They better. I mean, because everyone is pissed about that. Like, every director is like, how the fuck are you, what? Is this the place to air out the conspiracy theory about yeah yeah is that um because it's a abc broadcast right and am i being played off no no no you're being played on uh and if i recall the third hand uh conspiracy theory i heard is disney marvel uh ab Corporation, whatever the parent company is, I guess it's Disney,
Starting point is 01:11:46 doesn't have nominees in those categories. Oh. So those are the disposable categories. In cinematography and editing? Evidently. Huh. I didn't verify this. Oh.
Starting point is 01:11:56 I thought it was juicier, man. I thought it had to do with like Illuminati stuff. That's Illuminati? Nah, that's just corporations banging the way they do. That's low level television I was hoping something much more that's what I heard
Starting point is 01:12:12 the bad news for all of us is that all of our Illuminati conspiracies are true it's just instead of being Jay-Z and Beyonce it's fucking Disney it's Bob Iger it's just way uglier people way less cool or is it just are they Disney and ESPN. It's just way uglier people. Way less cool.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Doing way less cool shit. Or is it just, are they constantly causing all this trouble to give the perceived, like, this is about to be a fire festival. Just wait and see. And then so everyone, like with schadenfreude fully activated, tunes in to be like,
Starting point is 01:12:39 ooh, this is gonna be nice. Right. They keep fucking up to keep the Oscars in the headlines because there's no other way to put the Oscars in the headlines because nobody gives a shit about the Oscars unless the Oscars are fucking up is a theory that I have actually seen put out there that might be true. I mean, it doesn't make sense that they would be shortening it just because they think people like shorter more. shorter more their most popular academy awards like the most watched academy awards ever was where james cameron won all of them for titanic and said i'm the king of the world uh that was the most watched ever and it was one of the longest ever like 20 years ago yeah
Starting point is 01:13:16 it was 2000 they haven't topped themselves in 20 years but that's just like the exact linear decline of of tv Right. Yeah. I mean, but it's like they have had peaks where they were among the longest ever. Right. And I think the other thing people point to is that everybody had seen the Titanic, whereas, you know, last year was the least watched and not a lot of people had seen The Shape of Water. But it also could be them freaking out about something that is inevitable, which is the decline of how many people are watching. I hope it's an actual
Starting point is 01:13:51 mess. Yeah. I also feel bad for people who will win that night, because I don't want that memory to be marred for them when they achieve, but part of me is also like, I want to see this be a mess. It's not that big of a deal. There's still movies. You get your statue anyway. They're not going to give a fuck about how bad everything was on the other side of them. I think, I mean, like most things in the TV business, it's wholly reactive and usually one, whatever the cycle is behind.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Right. So like since the Oscars is on a yearly cycle or if they want to look at it broadly, like a decade long or whatever. or if they want to look at it broadly, like a decade long or whatever. Like, I think they're, I mean, they're obviously just trying to make it shorter because ABC wants to give as little airtime to this fucking, like, lead pelican. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Lead albatross? What's a bad thing to have hanging around from your neck? That's my favorite word. Led zeppelin? AKA. But you know what I mean? Like, it's, ultimately it's because no one actually wants to put it on. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Because they could be rerunning fucking Masked Singer or whatever. That's true. That's who should host it, a Masked Singer. Oh, the Masked Host. We don't know who it is. Is that on ABC? No, I don't know. And then it turns out it's Louis C.K.
Starting point is 01:15:04 But it doesn't matter. We can't get mad because we only find out at the end. Yeah. And the mask is over his dick, of course. Right. Yes, yes. That is the way that we all identify. And everyone forgot the Beatles were a band. Oh, God. Do we have a quick second to talk about
Starting point is 01:15:20 that trailer? We talked about it yesterday. I mean, I was confused. Oh, sorry. No, go on. Hot take. Go. Quick. I mean, I was confused. No, go on. Hot take, go. Quick. I mean, my hot take is like, yeah, I... Finally. That movie's...
Starting point is 01:15:31 That music wouldn't be popular today if everyone just forgot about it. Which is fine. Like, people... Shit tastes move on. It's okay. Don't hang on to the Beatles, baby boomers.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Remember Dippin' Dots? Listen to some Skrillex. I thought that was the new ice cream. Yeah. Some Skrillex. That's actually what the movie should be about. The guy like, no one's heard dubstep. And he's like, whoa, what the fuck's this dubstep?
Starting point is 01:15:56 Oh my God. It would be better if it was the entire genre of rap. Right. And it's Ed Sheeran. Right. Because there is a theory that says that if the New York city blackout had never happened,
Starting point is 01:16:07 rap never would have been invented. And the only reason the New York city blackout happened was because somebody hit the wrong key on a computer. So it's like that split of a universe. There's probably like 99 out of a hundred parallel dimensions where rap does not exist. And I invented in 2019. Right.
Starting point is 01:16:25 But I'd be a, you know what I mean? I'd be a doo-wop head still. Right. It'd be a real problem. Andrew and I would be on the corner doing, around a trash can fire. Fire because our democracy has crumbled as well.
Starting point is 01:16:38 That's my favorite part of a Bronx tale. It starts, he's like, it was the fifties. There was a doo-wop group on every corner. It's like, no there wasn't, motherfucker. Where are you,'s like, it was the fifties. There was a do op group on every corner. It's like, no, there wasn't motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:16:46 You've just seen movies set during that time. Andrew, it's been a pleasure having you as always, man. Where can people find you? Most importantly, you can find me in the Pacific Northwest in Portland, Oregon at revolution hall at 4 30 PM this Saturday.
Starting point is 01:17:04 Tomorrow. Oh shit. Yeah. Come. There's still a couple of30 p.m. this Saturday. Tomorrow. Oh, shit. Yeah, come. There's still a couple tickets left. Come. It will be fun. We promise. What are you doing up there?
Starting point is 01:17:12 Oh, sorry. Yeah, we're just doing Yosus Racist Live. Thank you for getting me to actually perform. Yosus Racist, a podcast I host with Tawny Newsome. Yeah. One of the great podcasts. One of the podcasts that originally made me interested in the media uh so yeah go check it out guys if you haven't already it's an amazing show
Starting point is 01:17:32 uh and is there a tweet you've been enjoying yeah uh this one is less comedy but uh emily heller a couple days ago tweeted uh is it just me or should cashless restaurants be super illegal? And it kicked off so much fucking conversation. But yeah, I 100% this cash, not accepting cash is classist and racist and all that shit. Not accepting cash. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck that. Miles, where can people find you?
Starting point is 01:17:58 Some people don't have credit cards, my man. And it's disproportionately people of color and marginalized people. Oh, me. cards my man and it's disproportionately people of color and like marginalized people yeah oh me you find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray a tweet i like uh let's do a couple one uh first is from nate fernald uh right over there at late late show with james cord and he says people think i'm weak when they see me dab the grease off my pizza with a napkin but then i blow their fucking minds when i eat the dang napkin. Can I tell you this? I almost selected that one too.
Starting point is 01:18:29 That is so good. Shout out to Nate. The next one is from Sarah Shower at sjshower, S-C-H-A-U-E-R. It says, condoms are single-use plastics, and that's why I don't use them. Gotten pregnant six times, but hey, the oceans are now marginally cleaner.
Starting point is 01:18:47 You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A tweet I've been enjoying is from Gareth Reynolds, co-host of The Dollop and director of that Godzilla movie and Monsters. That's not true. He tweeted, all you can eat pancakes is still roughly four pancakes not a deal and you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist
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Starting point is 01:19:17 and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on
Starting point is 01:19:24 yeah mate today we're gonna go out on. Yeah, right. Today we're going to go out on a beat of a J Dilla-esque beat here by the artist Aso, A-S-O. And it's called Inside All Day. You know, I like that little boom bap. And also it was J Dilla's birthday a little bit ago last week. And I just want to shout that beat maker out. But this, you know, Inside All Day is kind of how we're living right now in la because we're getting so much rain couldn't even walk my dog without getting
Starting point is 01:19:49 washed away in the streets because i live in a floodplain shout out to the la city planners people are feeling so sorry for us right now oh yeah the rest of the country it was like it's like the high it only got up to 60 i know I know. I can't live like this. We did get our rain for the year, right? Yeah, we were at 80% of our annual rainfall, I think like last week. Yeah. Tight. Which means more brush that will dry out and create more fires.
Starting point is 01:20:17 Baby, we love the rain. Oh, but also probably super bloom though. Yeah. Right? There'll be a super bloom. That'll be nice for a second. Yeah, that's good for the gram. Man, when all these climates change and we just, like, have, like, all of a sudden L.A. has Seattle's weather.
Starting point is 01:20:32 Right. We're going to be pretty pissed off. And, like, you could ski in, like, Griffith Park down the hill. Like, Runyon becomes, like, a ski trail. Odd. I can't imagine. All right. We're going to ride out on that and into the weekend.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Have a great weekend, everybody. We will be back on Tuesday because Monday is President's Day, and we honor our presidents, especially the current one. That's who we're really all honoring. Yes, President Vladimir Putin. Yes. All right. Have a great long weekend.
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