The Daily Zeitgeist - Asians Vs. Mark Wahlberg Part 2, Elon Musk Tweeting On Acid 8.17.18

Episode Date: August 18, 2018

In episode 214, Jack and Miles are joined by actor and writer Kirby Howell-Baptiste to discuss Elon Musk's absurd behavior, Trump revoking security clearances of certain officials, the cancelation of ...the military parade, Trump's fight with Vietnam veterans over 'agent orange,' more tapes from Omarosa, the ring of predatory priests in Pennsylvania in the seventies, Mark Walhberg's new film 'Mile 22,' Crazy Rich Asians reactions, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Blue Zones – Places In the World Where People Live to 100 and Stay Healthy2. WATCH: The Carolina Brogue: Outer Banks Vocabulary3. Elon Musk Details ‘Excruciating’ Personal Toll of Tesla Turmoil4. The billionaire house hostage saga of Azealia Banks, Elon Musk, and Grimes, explained5. Trump gears up to strip more clearances from officials tied to Russia investigation6. Trump blames D.C. officials for postponement of his military parade; Bowser responds his plan was ‘sad’7. Trump and Omarosa Had a ‘F*cking Weird’ Fight With Vietnam Vets8. WATCH: Ride of The Valkyries - Apocalypse Now (1979)9. The Last Battle of the Vietnam War: Agent Orange and Its ‘Presumed Diseases’10. Omarosa releases secret tape of Lara Trump offering her $15K-a-month campaign job11. Grand jury report describes a 'ring of predatory priests' in Pittsburgh in the 1970s12. ‘Mile 22’ Review: Mark Wahlberg Action Thriller Feels Like ‘InfoWars: The Movie’13. Peter Berg asked Mark Wahlberg to tap into 'Bannon intensity' for 'Mile 22'14. WATCH: Tidiani Kone et le T. P. Orchestre Poly-Rythmo de Cotonou - Djanfa Magni Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:15 My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack O'Brien, you know Zeit got it. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Miles Gray, Miles Gray, Miles Gray. Miles Gray, Miles Gray, Miles Gray. Okay, that is Enya or No Cool Flow. And I was just reminiscing with Super Producer Nick Stumpf of how I didn't know that was the name of that song for about 17 years. And shout out to Blacksavelli at Blacksitive for that, a.k.a. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:49 And mine was at DJ Specs on Twitter. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented performer and improviser from shows like Barry, Killing Eve, Downward Dog, and Love. Please welcome Kirby Hal-Baptiste. Hey, guys. Hello. Hi. How are you? I'm really good. We're thrilled to have you. I'm excited to be here. Welcome. Thank you. Yes. I love doing podcast. Yeah, do you? Yeah, I really do. Okay. Well, because we... Chat and chill. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:03:16 we met on Hollywood for Ugly People. Yeah. And you were crushing it. And that's why I was like, I gotta have Kirby on. Thanks. And it was busy then. I know it was pilot season, so I'm glad we got you. Oh, yes. I'm so glad. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. But first, we are going to tell our listeners what they're in store for.
Starting point is 00:03:32 We're going to be talking about Elon Musk melting down, whether he was tweeting on acid, as Azealia Banks claims. We are going to talk about why Trump is really revoking people's security clearances, the public dick measuring parade that Trump had to cancel, and also just his general stance towards military people. There was a revealing anecdote that just came out. Omarosa is still out here dropping hot tapes. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Surgical summer. Surgical summer. Surgical summer. We're going to talk about the box office showdown this weekend that is even more good versus evil than we originally thought between Crazy Rich Asians versus Mile 22. If you missed Miles 1 through 21, don't worry. Good joke. Dead joke.
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Starting point is 00:04:44 In the best way. But first, Kirby, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? What is revealing is I really, I looked this up on the drive here because I heard a radio ad for it. It's called If You Care and it's like,
Starting point is 00:04:59 this is like, in a nutshell, completely me. It's like Tupperware and things to keep your vegetables and stuff in that are eco-friendly. So like eco-friendly, instead of using cling film over a bowl, you can get these sheets that are like beeswax. So they're reusable. And I literally heard an ad on the radio because I want to go packaging free. It doesn't look like it today because I'm snacking on things that are out of packages. But like I'm carrying a water bottle or when I go to set, I bring my own plates and knives and forks.
Starting point is 00:05:27 And I have started buying all my food from the farmer's market. There you go. Unless it's like, I'll buy all my food from the farmer's market, and then I'll go and buy rice and other grains and stuff in the bulk bags and then transfer it. So I'm trying to find ways to eliminate things that I just use casually, like foil and cling film and things like that. Wait, so what was the radio ad for? And what radio station were you listening to? I was listening to KPCC. Oh, okay, got you.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Yeah, I thought it was like if you're listening to K-Rock or something, they're like, yeah, we'll be right back after this. Hi, do you care about the environment? No, it was KPCC, and then it was like, okay, I don't even know. I can't remember how the ad went, but it was just like, literally I've been thinking about it for days. And my friend had just bought these beeswax covers. And I was like, where can I get them from?
Starting point is 00:06:11 And then this ad was on things like baking cups, sandwich bags. And I love. And they're all biodegradable? Yes. What's a sandwich bag made out of? Like paper, kind of. Wow. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:06:22 I love, love, love tupperware and containers and little bags for things to go in so it's great you get biodegradable coffee filters look at this they haven't got a lot but they got some stuff well the basics to they got the basics to reduce waste yeah um so you bring like metal fork and knife to set? I have a bamboo set. Bamboo. Yeah. So much cooler than what I was picturing.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Well, no, metal's good, but bamboo is like a super great resource. Resource? Resource? We should be using more of because bamboo grows really, really quickly and it's like super easy to grow, super easy to harvest
Starting point is 00:07:02 and really strong. Yeah. And it's antimicrobial, so it's like better than like wood chopping board. It's antimicrobial? Yeah, naturally. Bamboo is amazing. I'm just going to wear bamboo clothes. Yeah, you can do fiber and paper, but we just don't use enough of it.
Starting point is 00:07:17 We just use wood. By the way, you don't have to worry about any pronunciation because just say it how you want to say it and we'll just automatically start pronouncing it that way because it sounds good yeah yes yeah it's a huge liberty that english people have oh so that is an english accent okay yeah i thought you were maybe from the south yeah yeah i'm bad at acting um yeah you can i can it is like a strange liberty where i can say anything i want but i don't know if i'm saying it right because no one corrects me. And no one wants to.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Aluminium is so beautiful. Aluminium. Aluminium and Jaguar. Jaguar. I'm a big fan of British car ads, I guess. But my one concern with products like this is it's not a concern. It's really just like being a selfish consumerist person. I love the scientific miracles of like those press and seal shit things that
Starting point is 00:08:09 like come out of, you know, right. Like NASA. Right. It's like a, exactly. Like WD 40 was invented originally as like a NASA thing.
Starting point is 00:08:18 They invented that for like the space shuttle. And then now we can just have it in our garages. Velcro too. Yeah. Velcro. There's saran wrap. And then there's like that super saran wrap. space shuttle and then now we can just have it in our garages velcro too yeah velcro there's saran wrap and then there's like that super saran wrap that like clings to everything that one is very cool mom has this one from japan that is like one sheet that is infinitely reusable saran wrap sheet oh but see that's great you can microwave with it too no yes so you put
Starting point is 00:08:43 that shit over the like a bowl of rice or whatever, and you can put in the fridge and then it like, it actually clings to the ceramic or whatever the surface is. And then you can microwave it. Actually, you probably have to get rid of it if you like microwave it a lot. Yeah. But I mean,
Starting point is 00:08:55 you can buy one of these sheets and baby, you got like eight months of cling wrap. Okay. We see that's good. Cause that's sustainable. That's rather than using a piece all the time. Yeah. But you know,
Starting point is 00:09:04 that one that you're talking about is not as reusable. You can reuse it a couple of times. But the great thing about that is if you bake like cookies and want to take them somewhere, you can put all the cookies on it and then lay another piece and then press around. So it's almost like vacuum seals. Oh, really? Yeah. I love kitchen stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I love home stuff. I love cooking. I'm like very quietly domesticated domestic yeah in that like if I was to be with someone that was like
Starting point is 00:09:30 you have to stay at home and cook I'd be like never and I'd burn my kitchen down but I love to cook I genuinely do love cooking and being in
Starting point is 00:09:39 it's like a nice thing I think if it was like if I had to do it I wouldn't enjoy it but I love cooking if they were like I demand you not I think if it was like, if I had to do it, I wouldn't enjoy it. That's right. I love cooking. If they were like, I demand you not cook. Yesterday's guest was the opposite. Did not enjoy cooking.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Really? It was too laborious, drudgerous. It all depends. I think, again, and that's why we're saying it all depends on the person. It depends on the person. It's really a stress reliever for me. The other day I got home from work and I was really stressed. It was just like a long day.
Starting point is 00:10:04 It was like a night shift. Not fully through the night, but I didn really stressed. And it was just like a long day. And I got, it was like a night shift. Not fully through the night, but I didn't get back until almost two. And then I was so stressed, I couldn't go to bed. So I just cooked until four o'clock in the morning and then went to bed. There you go. Yeah. And I think, you know, one of the reasons too is for creative people, especially, right? Like we engage in things that you put your time in and it takes time for it to go out
Starting point is 00:10:21 and understand what it's going to do out there, how to perform. And so feedback is delayed for the work you put in. Yeah. For cooking, your feedback is instant. Instant. You're like, oh, I fucking finessed the mince job on that onion. Yes. Or like, ooh, the browning on this is perfect.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Instant. It's instant feedback. And I think that's one of the reasons why I like it too, because you can kind of be like, wait, am I fucking, we got it right. And if you're creative, like I love to like get high and do creative stuff. And so cooking is an extension of that. Like the other weekend I got crazy high and made sushi, vegan sushi because I'm vegan. But like making sushi is such an art.
Starting point is 00:10:53 And then the food you get is delicious. And then it looks beautiful. So you get like layers of art and beauty the whole time. Rather than like frying food is cool. You chuck it in a pan. Right, right, right. But like to cook it and to slice it. Sculpt it and then roll it.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Yeah, it's very satisfying. And you were competent enough to do that? I feel like if I was super high and tried to do something artful like that, I would just fuck it up. I am, which is dangerous. I'm sure all people who, I don't think I'm addicted, but people who are addicted to drugs say this. I am a better functioning person. I'm a better creative functioning person.'t think I'm addicted but people who addicted to drugs says I am a I'm a better functioning person
Starting point is 00:11:25 I'm better creative functioning person not like acting and stuff like that But just like drawing or doing like when I'm high I feel like I am Creatively just a buzzing rainbow Like you got the star in my I was with me my friends were in Vegas a few weeks ago, and my friend was like, I don't know what to do with my hair.
Starting point is 00:11:48 And I was very high, and I was like, just let me take care of it. And I just did this incredible, beautiful hairstyle. Wow. And I think it's just because when I'm high, I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:11:58 just all creativity. But I couldn't do anything I had to think about. I could never act high. I can't do improv shows high. I can't do that stuff. Like, I can't do this show high. There's a do that stuff. Like I can't do this show high. There's a little bit of facilitating anxiety
Starting point is 00:12:08 that you need when you're sober. Yes. And other times when you're high you can take that away in certain instances and that facilitating anxiety
Starting point is 00:12:14 is gone. A hundred percent. And then you lie yourself and just be like yeah. Yes. Let's try something. I think that's the key is knowing that there are
Starting point is 00:12:20 certain things you don't do better high. Yes. Because there are some people like when you're in the bad part of an addiction where you're just like that there are certain things you don't do better high. Yes. Because there are some people, when you're in the bad part of an addiction, where you're just like, I do everything better. I'm a better driver when I'm drunk.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not a good idea. I'm actually safer because I'm drunk, so I gotta be careful. Oh, I used to think that. All right, what is something that you think is overrated, Kirby? Oh, okay. I think wellness is overrated. is that something you guys have discussed oh yeah no i mean okay
Starting point is 00:12:50 i didn't know if i wanted to i didn't know if someone's been like well duh unpack that no no like i just i read i read this article recently oh crap i can't remember this lady who wrote it i can put it up in a second in the new york times magazine about goop yeah yeah yeah that was the whole idea that like it's not enough to be healthy anymore. It's this idea of wellness and it's like basically just narcissism. You know why I think this wellness thing is? Is that like you only need to be a certain amount healthy, right? Like you need to be healthy enough to be able to like your heart works well and your lungs work well and this and the other.
Starting point is 00:13:19 And all the other stuff is too much almost. Like it's like an elite buy-in. It's like you have to pay to be this well. I think you need to be healthy. And now we don't even care about it. If I was like, I'm healthy. Oh, right. So you feel like wellness is like another thing to try and attain or something.
Starting point is 00:13:35 I think health is health. And it is medical and mental. And I think it's good to be mentally, physically healthy. But wellness. This idea But wellness. This idea of wellness. Is like narcissism, elitism, classism, capitalism. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:52 And we all have to be well. We all have to like buy all the juices and do all the things. And your poop should be this and that. It's like if you're healthy, you're fine. We've been making people forever. Yeah, sure. People have been healthy for a long time. Like my nan. My nan is
Starting point is 00:14:05 she's a little bit sick right now but she's older she's she's in her 80s she's this old caribbean woman she's lives like she doesn't drink she doesn't smoke she's a dead venice she's healthy and she's doing great but the idea that you have to like do all these other stuff there's plenty of people like if you look at those areas that are, they're called blue zones where people live for a super long time. Like Loma Linda is one of them. There's a place in Japan. There's a place in Italy. Like those, I think they're called blue zones.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Right, where the life expectancy is like exponentially longer than everywhere else. And none of those people are like, they don't do any of the things. They're not a yoni egg in their vagina. No, yeah, yeah. like they don't do any of the things yeah they're not yeah they're just no yeah yeah they just do like like what most of them said like what they have found in those areas that are common are um a sense of community like being around people and not necessarily just retiring and being put on a shelf um in the place in japan they found that like exercise and in all these places but in this place particularly exercise is just part of your day like they sit in this area they sit on the
Starting point is 00:15:04 floor so they have to just like literally just as sit in this area, they sit on the floor. So they have to just, like literally just as an old person, getting up and down off the floor multiple times a day keeps you healthier. Going on walks keeps you healthier. A lot of them do, like in Loma Linda, it's a very seven day event, but they do a lot of voluntary work. So serving others. So all these things, these people are so healthy, not just physically, but they're mentally way healthier. And then we we're here and we're all like well you have to buy all this wellness and do all this and you
Starting point is 00:15:28 drive to this juice bar and do that and you're like well the fucking stress of driving to moon juice and feeling out of place and being talked down to and like and then my body is flooded with all these chemicals where i'm like well they can tell i'm a poor person and they don't want me to be and then i'm going to drink the juice and feel better it's like no if I lived in a place like like mental and all the other healthy stuff yeah it means it's it's yeah yeah it is sort of this consumer thing because like if you move the goalposts of this quote unquote wellness thing then it's something to attain and that's a whole other consumer habit you've created it's like well how many Himalayan salt crystals do you have in your house?
Starting point is 00:16:05 Yes. It's like, I don't know, motherfucker. My grandmother lived to be 101 and she smoked cigarettes every day. And even like this new thing, the fasting thing, where they're like, well, people in this country fast or this country. And you're like, do you understand how different their lives are? And don't act like you're not fasting just to get skinny. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:21 I do this fasting. It's not about losing weight. It's about, and you're like, get off it right it's about just wholeness yeah yeah i like you can i'm over i'm sick of it now yeah i'm done with it on a daily basis you can prioritize your health without like eating at a restaurant where the dishes are named like meditate with me yeah i'll have the i love you i'm like i'm vegan and i've had enough like yeah i'm already doing a thing that is annoying to a lot of people. I mean, for listeners. But that's your product.
Starting point is 00:16:49 It's my product completely. And I do think that's like, and I like that because I do feel like it's healthy. But like, I'm good on that. But I'm not going to pay all this money to be like some extreme health or wellness monster. Like, I don't even know what the end goal is. You don't want to live forever. You start glowing and you levitate. I was just going to say, for listeners
Starting point is 00:17:09 who can't tell, Kirby is literally glowing, levitating three inches off her seat. I have a fucking welding mask on. The glow is so bright. But what is the end goal? I guess, what is the end goal of all this? It's health. It's also capitalism. It's money. That's the end goal. One this? It's health, you know, and I think that's the thing, right? It's also capitalism, you know?
Starting point is 00:17:25 It's money. That's the end goal, right? They're not going to – one, we haven't done it long enough to prove it, but, like, are they going to live longer? I bet you no one who's doing all this stuff is going to live longer than – like, on average, than people in those – I think they're called blue zones. Is that what they're called? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Loma Linda is really interesting. Very interesting. When my wife was, like – we were looking at different places where she could do her residency coming out of medical school. That was one of the only places that had pain management other than UCLA. So we spent a month out in Loma Linda and the entire town is Seventh-day Adventists, like to the point that their Sabbath is Saturday. So mail is delivered on Sunday but not Saturday like everything is closed on Saturday and Seventh-day Adventists are
Starting point is 00:18:09 vegetarian so all their restaurants are like vegetarian basically for the most part and yeah it's this one town in the middle of Southern California where everywhere else in Southern California has like the same life expectancy of Los Angeles and you know a typical American suburb. And Loma Linda is just this island of, yeah, I think. I didn't even realize. I mean, growing up here, I know about Loma Linda, and I didn't even know that that was a blue zone.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Yeah. It's just like a sleepy little town. Yeah. But yeah, this writer, Taffy Brodesser-Ackner, wrote for the New York Times Magazine about goop and sort of the commodification of, I don't know if this is the article you're talking about, but she went and sat down with Gwyneth Paltrow and talked about what a huge business she's doing, sort of selling her lifestyle. But then she also talks about how trying to get into this sort of lifestyle like basically drives her to a nervous breakdown because it's just like so intense and so all-consuming and you're comparing yourself to other people and it's like yeah like you said it's like moving the goalpost constantly yeah you
Starting point is 00:19:16 have to attain um the one i read was a jezebel article and it's called barbara uh erin reich isn't afraid to die and she is the same thing but her thing is like I think it's crazy that we're all trying to live forever. It's not fun. We're not going to do it. It's not fun.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Have you ever met a happy vampire? Ask those motherfuckers. Angel was pretty happy for a while when things were good with him and Buffy. Yeah, I guess that's true.
Starting point is 00:19:40 He wasn't happy but he seemed content. Yeah. Spike, you know, he couldn't figure it out. Oh man, I loved Spike. He was a mess. He was a content. Yeah. Spike, you know, he couldn't figure it out. Oh, man. I loved Spike. He was a mess.
Starting point is 00:19:46 He was a mess. He was a mess. Kirby, what's something that's underrated? Underrated? Okay, I have two things on here, but I don't know. I didn't know which one to pick. One sounds really she-she, and the other one, you know what I think is, okay, real quick, I'm just going to throw it out there, the first one.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I think Coconut LaCroix is underrated. Oh, wow. Just throw it out there. You know what's crazy? I had one like two years ago. I thought, disgusting you know what's crazy I had one like two years ago I thought disgusting this is horrible I had one about two weeks ago
Starting point is 00:20:09 I don't know what happened my hormones changed I was maybe went through that thing maybe I went in that time had that seven year cycle thing where all your cells renew and I don't know
Starting point is 00:20:16 or what's that thing Return to Jupiter or something oh your Saturn returning yeah whatever that is yeah maybe that or Jupiter's returning I don't know whatever that phenomenon
Starting point is 00:20:24 Jupiter ascending whatever explain why like men break up relationships yeah yeah for women in the late 20s your Saturn returns like 27 28 anyway whatever maybe that happened I had one the other day this is like the best drink I've ever had I was like this is wow delicious I had the same exact evolution I had someone offered me one two years, three years ago. Yeah. And I was like, this tastes like fucking suntan. Yes. And I want nothing to do with it. Then I had a party and someone had brought it over and left it in my refrigerator.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And it was like a hot day. And I needed something cold. And it was right there. And maybe just contextually it's different because I needed something. But I was like, yo, this is kind of fucking refreshing. Yes. And then the next day I checked to make sure I'm like okay am I still rocking with it
Starting point is 00:21:07 it's on a hot day I think this heat wave has done something I think it has to be hot drink a tepid one I think temperature really matters with LaCroix warm LaCroix is not
Starting point is 00:21:15 no and this coconut one needs to be freezing and the day needs to be hot so otherwise it is shit and properly rated it's delicious
Starting point is 00:21:24 what's your other one armpit hair oh yeah I think armpit hair I fuck with armpit hair really underrated yo I fuck with the long armpit hair I have armpit hair
Starting point is 00:21:32 maybe it's personal but I think it's really underrated in that like I guess it's overrated to have them like look super smooth but I think it's underrated because whenever I see a woman
Starting point is 00:21:40 with armpit hair I'm like whoa that looks so cool yeah but it shouldn't even have to be it could just be like well it grows there yeah yeah what is uh what's a myth what's something people think is true that you know to be um the myth is that you lot speak differently to english people when actually the truth is we speak differently to you so when americans said we
Starting point is 00:22:03 don't want to be part of england anymore we want our own thing the monarchy at the time were very upset with American people obviously with what became America and they began to change the accent so they changed like vowel sounds and became more posh so then that obviously trickles down throughout all the people and then generationally we sound like this so we didn't sound like this you guys sound closer to what english people would have sounded like that's what i always say when i go to english right i'm like what do you mean i talk with an accent stop talking stupid look motherfucker i don't care if this is nando's run my fucking chicken yeah anyway but yeah i guess i didn't realize that yeah it's really
Starting point is 00:22:38 interesting yeah just to spite just to be like well we're gonna have our own english now i think yeah just to sit to differentiate and be like we are 20 years has been awkward, we're going to have our own English now. I think, yeah, to differentiate and be like, we all read different places. Those first 20 years must have been awkward. Yeah. Where you're like, I'm sorry, I hung you. I'm fighting some old hobbits. But also, just they were like, oh, this sounds way better. We sound way smarter and more sophisticated. Well, isn't there like what they say, like what part of America they say is actually
Starting point is 00:23:04 still the closest version to what the English is being spoken of? It's like the Chesapeake area and there is an island in the Chesapeake Bay that has been like relatively untouched. Oh, Ocracoke Brogue or what is that thing? Yeah, yeah. It is fucking wild sounding.
Starting point is 00:23:16 What do they sound like? We'll play an audio clip later in the episode. Nick will look it up for us. I think it's called Ocracoke Brogue, I think. It's almost impossible to understand. And it's like what it would have sounded like. But it sounds like if you've ever heard like a Philly accent or like a Baltimore accent. Baltimore?
Starting point is 00:23:31 Yeah, Baltimore. Doors opening. That makes sense. Wooder? Yes. Hey, can I get some Diet Coke? Right, yeah, exactly. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:38 You know why that makes sense? Actually, because that sounds like people who are from coastal towns which would make sense from when the ports coming in. Because people who are from the they have this weird drawl from a lot of coastal places. Even people from farm towns where they have these weird
Starting point is 00:23:58 drawls in the way they speak which makes sense. And I mean the British accent, the accent we know is British is sorry British is called received pronunciation and I think that's like you received it it was received it was given unto you by the authorities thank you all right we are going to take a quick break and we'll be right back
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Starting point is 00:28:52 Isn't it funny that whenever they do like revolution movies or whatever, they always just have people in posh English actions. Like, no, why don't you make people sound like this? Why don't you do this and see how many people come see the movie? Right. Yeah, the redcoats. That's how the redcoats spoke. They weren't like, you must destroy. Well, that's just like the default for American films of like,
Starting point is 00:29:12 well, if they're not speaking English, like even like, you know, fucking Valkyrie. Yeah, that's how our Nazis speak in movies. Yes, yes, Fiora. Yes, sir. What do you demand? It is I, Hitler. All right, guys, let. Yes, sir. What do you demand? It is I, Hitler. All right, guys.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Let's talk Elon Musk. So a New York Times article came out last night. It was an interview with him where he just seems like he's at the end of his wits. He is feeling sorry for himself that he didn't get to hang out with his friends on his 47th birthday, which he still celebrates their 47th birthday. But he's like, you know, I just spent it in the lab, like, working. I didn't get to see anyone. And then, like, has to stop himself because he's about to break down crying.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Wait, that's a live interview? Yeah. Well, you don't see it. It's like a… Description? Uh-huh, uh-huh. Right. It's a piece of journalism, like written journalism.
Starting point is 00:30:08 But he just really seems like he's at the end of his wits. His lifestyle, by his account, it's all about the job. And it's just like he's been working 120-hour weeks. And that might be true. I mean, he definitely presumably works a lot but uh it's all like his account is also woven throughout the new york times talking about the fact that the board at tesla is investigating whether he's like tweeting in altered states of consciousness they mentioned the drug ambien and also the fact that he has been known
Starting point is 00:30:46 to use recreational drugs. And so there was a thing that happened like last weekend, I think. Yeah, right. Or the beginning of this week. I don't know. Time is so fast and slow at the same time. He's been doing a lot over the last few months.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Like when he called that guy a pedophile. Right, he called a guy a pedophile. They mentioned that. They mentioned the fact that he tweeted without consulting with his board that he's thinking about taking tesla private and had secured the funds for it which shifted the market right i think the sec will probably want to say something about that and which he hadn't so it was like an illegal tweet but uh azalea banks she's a rapper for people who don't know and she has been working on her second album for a long
Starting point is 00:31:25 time and she's working with grimes elon musk's girlfriend and she was tweeting or posting on instagram uh that she had been basically holed up in elon musk's house for like days right and she was like yeah i'm waiting for grimes she invited me out here to LA to stay at Elon Musk's place to put the finishing touches on our album and she just like never showed up and here's what she tweeted she wrote that staying at his house was like a real life episode of
Starting point is 00:31:56 Get Out and she said lol I waited around all weekend while Grimes coddled her boyfriend for being too stupid to know not to go on Twitter while on acid. Then she had the nerve to go ghost and book me a first class flight through Roc Nation. So basically sent her out of L.A. So it's an interesting.
Starting point is 00:32:15 This wouldn't happen if he had a woman his own age. This is a problem. This is, you know, a woman his own age. If he had a grown woman, she'd take his phone and be like, leave Twitter alone. This isn't for you. We're too old for this and you're on acid and you're on acid and you need to chill and take a nap and she put him to bed yeah but this is a problem with these older men they're like i don't know what's going on i have lost grip of reality like yeah you're 47 and you're with someone half your age and she's young and she's just excited. Like, get a real one and chill. He had a real one.
Starting point is 00:32:45 He had a wife who was, I think, around his age and who he has children with who wrote an article about how he treated her like a... You don't say a guy from an African mining family was treating people like property. He said on multiple occasions that if she were an employee he would fire her Throughout the course of their marriage
Starting point is 00:33:12 I'm gonna call HR your mother She'll sort this out you need come get your son he's talking crazy again Okay, put him on the phone His dad but young women will put up with that shit these old guys they know they know that there's only so much well yeah because if you're not at a certain level of maturity you're gonna sort of match the partner or something so if it's someone young rambunctious and just being like yeah let's fucking let's fry up let's fry up today think about what you put up with when you're 20 like if i was 20 and a guy was just like okay i'd be like
Starting point is 00:33:43 great and now i'm like no you've got to be this you've got to do this you've got to have your shit together like your list of demands is more yeah our expectations are higher and rightly so it's good then you meet someone else and you match each other's expectations but it's like yeah ugh this little man children sorry speaking of hey but those jets though right Right. And that flamethrower. Yeah. I knew he was on one when he made a flamethrower. His board literally was like, why don't you work on making cars
Starting point is 00:34:10 and firing rockets into outer space? That's what you do well, and you're good at it, and that's a fucking awesome job, man. Just do that and stop fucking around. Anyway, speaking of... There are some theories emerging about why Trump has been
Starting point is 00:34:27 revoking people's security clearance earlier this week. Yeah, well, I mean, I don't even know these are theories now. Just a lot of people are like ringing the alarm. So at first we were all like, oh, look, he's just being petty. He's just revoking security clearances of people who don't even work for these agencies.
Starting point is 00:34:43 So it's not like they're interacting with new intel or anything like that, new information. So a couple of things sort of kick this off. There was a Wall Street Journal interview where Trump was kind of basically saying like, oh, you know, John Brennan was behind the Russia thing. And like, you know, that's blah, blah, blah. And connecting John Brennan to like the genesis, the beginnings of this Russia investigation. And, you know, that that I was like, OK, sure, you're just trying to blame everybody else. And then John Brennan himself was even talking about how he used his security clearance. He's like, I have had to use my security clearance to go
Starting point is 00:35:13 back into the office and look at my old notes, like what like what my notes were from then, because you can still look at that. You do have the you still have the clearance to look at all those things. And he said, that's what I looked at it for. I never got any kind of briefing on anything else. I would never ask for a briefing. I only used my clearance to look at personal notes and things that I had looked at during the course of my tenure. And someone was saying, oh, why did you do that? He goes, I was doing that to prepare for congressional testimony.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Aha. So if these people now that he has on this list, like James Comey, Susan Rice, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, these are all people who were there at these intelligence agencies at the very beginnings of this Russia investigation. Those are the people who are the first people interacting with all this reporting that's saying, oh, hey, in England, they're telling us that they have some intelligence that seems to suggest that Russia is doing something with the Trump campaign. Oh, blah, blah, blah. So these are all people who, if they had to testify, would be the ones who would tell you, oh, yeah, or to debunk the idea that the Steele dossier
Starting point is 00:36:13 was the reason why we began to investigate this whole Russia thing. They would be the ones saying, oh, well, yes, when I was the head of the CIA, this was what I was seeing, blah, blah, blah. If you have no security clearance, now you're dealing with whatever you can just remember. You cannot refresh yourself because now you're interacting with sensitive material that you no longer have the clearance for. So by doing this, he's essentially trying to make witnesses
Starting point is 00:36:36 that are unreliable if they do end up becoming witnesses because they can't bone up on everything that happens when they go, you know, because the second they're cross-examined, and you can you you can without a shadow of a doubt say this blah blah blah blah blah like this happened this date this time you're like well i lost my security clearance i'm pretty sure you're pretty sure yeah well we don't need pretty sure sir and you look back at all the times people have testified in front of congress like sally
Starting point is 00:37:01 yates or comey and you know you know, senators, Congress people will be like, and did you have information that there was some kind of interactions between the campaign and Russia? They would always say, I can't reveal that. Me even answering the question affirmatively or negatively, that would me be bringing up sensitive material or secret material, privileged information. So you can already tell how this whole thing works. There's a lot of intelligence that has led us here.
Starting point is 00:37:29 But if these people can't attest to that or whatever, and it's hard to bring in as evidence, it's making it essentially trying to be a move ahead of trying to gum up the gears for these people to be reliable witnesses. And then that could lead to possibly revoking the clearances for people on Mueller's team. Because now then if you can keep the investigation going, but if they don't have a fucking clearance, it doesn't matter. You're not gonna be able to look at anything that is really of substance when it comes to connecting the dots.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Yeah. Isn't that what obstruction of justice is specifically created to avoid? That would lead you there. But when you're kind of just using this sort of like, oh, well,ful and that's why i did i mean you know yeah like with everything in this whole entire administration it can sure it could on its surface be described as it being done for this purpose but we always know what the actual you know that there are they're always ulterior motives and on a couple of occasions in public he has specifically said like i revoked their clearance because of the Russian witch hunt.
Starting point is 00:38:25 So, I mean, he's making it clear. Of course, yeah. That's the strategy to be like, well, I revoked their security clearance because they were a security threat. And you're like, no, but then they now can't testify. Well, I mean, they can, but I guess that's where we don't know. And that's where I've been saying Brendan's the beginning. And then who else? What does that leave?
Starting point is 00:38:41 Like those people that he called off. And these are the people who are on watch or who are on warning. It's crazy because it's I'm realizing with this campaign is how dastardly and super villainous the Republicans are. The ones that are in power. And it's not Trump because he's so dumb. But realizing how like I don't think smart is a word because I think smart makes it seem like it's like intellectual. But it's conniving, I guess, because it it seem like it's intellectual but it's conniving I guess shamelessly conniving
Starting point is 00:39:08 it's smart in the way that you want to forward your agenda and to get the thing you want but they are so shamelessly conniving about doing all this stuff and so shrewd that it's going to be very hard to undo but setting things up a certain way and Trump is truly I think
Starting point is 00:39:24 a very small part of it. Like he's not, it's not his idea. He doesn't know about any of it. Yeah, I mean, this is all, and I think what we always have to remember is the problems don't end in this country if Trump is no longer president. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:36 He's a symptom of a much larger existential threat to this country, which is the way these kinds of politicians are behaving, how they're able to just sort of be the architect of global conflicts to profit the super wealthy. Those are the kinds of things that create these people who are just sort of like, well, I'm going to get my by any means necessary on the stand of power because that's sort of the game that we've been playing. Every time I'm like, they're going to get in the way.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Like, Brennan has tweeted pretty confidently, like, oh, you're going down, motherfucker. Like, you are going to be relegated to the dustbin of history. You are going to be revealed to be one of the great monsters of history.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Like, for people who don't realize, Brennan was the head of the CIA. Like, he's a huge trustworthy figure, or not trustworthy,
Starting point is 00:40:22 I guess, because he's the head of the CIA, but he's at least authoritative on this sort of thing. He's definitely not in, I guess, because he's bad at CIA, but he's at least authoritative on this sort of thing. He's definitely not in team, I want bad shit to happen to America. He's more like, I'll do whatever the fuck I gotta do to make sure America's on top, which
Starting point is 00:40:33 could mean innocent lives lost. And he's not on team Democrat either. No. He's just a, you know, lifelong government public servant. And he oversaw the whole drone assassination program too. So everybody's got skeletons in the closet. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Yeah, I think. He is a, without fail, the best person in the world. Without fail, unequivocally. Him and then Elon Musk. Him, Elon Musk, then Mr. Rogers. They will save us all. But yeah, I think you can tell too, who is this guy, William McRaven or whatever, the dude who ran Joint Special Ops, JSOC.
Starting point is 00:41:09 He like oversaw the SEAL team that killed Osama Bin Laden or whatever. And he's just a very decorated person in the military. He came out and was like, hey, Trump, come get my security clearance too. Because if you're going to take this man's security clearance away, he is like team protect the country 100%. You cannot attack his credibility in that way. He's like, take mine because what you're doing is bullshit. It's ass.
Starting point is 00:41:31 And a lot of people came out. I think nearly every living director of the CIA, former director, came out to defend him. So now there's an official letter signed by 15 former servants of the CIA who either ran it or were high up in the leadership there for both Republican and Democratic administrations being like, this is absurd. Yeah. But again, I think Trump knows because he looks at John Brennan and he's like, John Brennan has literally seen the receipts. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:54 And all I can do is just try and make him look bad, even though it's like looking at somebody like he knows. Yeah. He knows. The thing that we all thought was going to turn this frown upside down make us all happy we lived in america trump had announced that he was going to stage the military parade to end all military parades he went to france saw what they got up to on their bastille day or what what's the day where they just go ham?
Starting point is 00:42:27 I mean, Bastille Day is their independent. That's like their 4th of July. Oh, okay. Right? Yeah. So they, I mean. Some kind of national celebration. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Yeah. And they just, you know, shut down the city of Paris and with just like have all their military weaponry rolling out. And surprisingly, this appealed to Trump. He was like, oh, shit. A gaudy, overt display of power. This is why I became a powerful person, was so that I could roll missiles around
Starting point is 00:42:55 that look like giant dicks just down the middle of the street. And the estimate came out of what it was going to cost. Where did he want to do it? In D.C.? In D.C., yeah. And everyone from the Pentagon to the city council,
Starting point is 00:43:10 everyone was just like, no. And he wanted to bring out the weapons, of course, so everyone could see them. Everything, tanks. A lot of people in the military were even talking amongst themselves, like, it's going to eat up the fucking street. I was going to say, a tank would destroy the roads. Yeah, and there's just so many things.
Starting point is 00:43:23 They're like, what about all the movement we're going to have to do as troops? Like, stage the equipment, clean it, fucking run it through everything, make sure everything's nice, then go back on a train, go home. It's just so much. It's a logistical mess for a country who has not had to outwardly be so insecure about their power until now. Right. But, I mean, Trump is a great military lead.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Oh, wait, no, he had bone spurs and completely dodged the draft. Are you sure? Platoon wasn't about him? So, actually, it's funny you bring that up, Miles. Anyways, first of all, the parade was $92 million and they're delaying it indefinitely or until 2019 because it... Yeah, he tweeted. He's like, I saw what the estimate was.
Starting point is 00:44:03 No, we can... That's too much money. Although... Oh, he tweeted. He's like, I saw what the estimate was. No, we can... That's too much money. Although... Oh, he wants to cut costs on that? Yeah, he was acting all fiscally conservative when he just gave away billions to the... Like, come on, man. The other thing, though, too,
Starting point is 00:44:14 is someone tweeted a fact that $92 million would feed every homeless veteran for nine months straight. Yeah. For that money. You could actually do something. Rather than fucking a parade. If you really care about the troops.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Okay, you're so quick to spend 92 million like that. How about 92 million to actually help veterans? Yeah. So one of my favorite stories that I've heard in a while, it's not surprising at all, but just so perfectly Trump was in the Daily Beast. My friend Chris actually forwarded it to me this morning.
Starting point is 00:44:47 So he went and spoke to a room full of Vietnam veterans. They're just all veterans. Yeah, all kinds of heads of veterans associations, including a lot of non-vets. And one of the Vietnam veterans who was there wanted the VA to start permitting access to benefits for veterans who were poisoned by Agent Orange. That's still a thing they're fighting people on, is Agent Orange, like whether that was bad for them.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Yeah, I think it's very clear it was poison. Yeah, Agent Orange was a thing that the U.S. military used in the Vietnam War that basically killed all the trees, all plant life around it. And so they were able to see into the jungle better to like kill Vietnamese people. And the U.S. soldiers who were exposed to that like intentional poison, they didn't do so well health wise. And the VA still is like withholding care for them. So this veteran brings this issue up, and it says Trump responds to that, that's taken care of, according to the people in the room.
Starting point is 00:45:53 That the Agent Orange issue has been taken care of? Has been taken care of. Attendees began explaining to the president the VA had not made enough progress on the issue at all, to which Trump responded by abruptly derailing the meeting and asking the attendees if Agent Orange was, quote, that stuff from that movie. Huh? He did not initially name the film, but it quickly became clear as Trump kept rambling
Starting point is 00:46:13 that he was referring to the classic 1979 epic Apocalypse Now, and specifically the famous helicopter attack scene set to the ride of the Valkyries. Sources present at the time tell the Daily Beast multiple people, including Vietnam War veterans, chimed in to inform the president that the apocalypse now set peace. He was talking about showcase the U.S. military using napalm, not Agent Orange. Yeah, but that's the famous line.
Starting point is 00:46:39 I love the smell of Agent Orange in the morning. Trump. So this is where it becomes truly trumpy it's unbelievable trump refused to accept that he was mistaken and proceeded to say things like no i think it's that stuff from that movie to fucking actual veterans actual veterans about a war that he cheated to get out yeah they were in Yeah, what a slap in the face. The literal war that he... The best part was that they kept pushing back like,
Starting point is 00:47:10 no, I'm sure your mistake is Napalm. So then he went around and started polling people in the room. Do you agree with me it was Agent Orange? Okay, quick show of hands. You. Napalm or Agent Orange? You.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Napalm. To Vietnam War veterans who are trying to get something accomplished by talking to him about a huge health risk. We need broader access to medical care because the stuff that you're saying is covered for the injuries sustained by people who were affected by Agent Orange
Starting point is 00:47:35 is not adequate enough. It's crazy how much we love war but hate veterans, isn't it? Like in this country. Trump loves war, but he hates veterans. a lot a lot of especially these veterans that need you know like public assistance and medical like public funding they're losers people and he yeah and he hates poor people and it's crazy like we love war yes
Starting point is 00:47:57 send those boys in but when any of them come back with like ptsd or any other sort of mental physical trauma they're like ah make it very hard yeah like when he was about john mccain about being like i don't like people who got captured you're like wait do you know how just awful it wasn't he wasn't playing tag yeah and they put him in oh yeah they go sit in that chair for a few days like people who won yeah yeah it's unbelievable the wild thing too in this whole thing because the descriptions are like the veterans are getting a little more sort of uneasy about that he was so insistent on it right and then he came around and and finally that guy who uh was one of the vietnam veterans of
Starting point is 00:48:35 america uh like founders he came back to him he's like i'm i'm assuring you it wasn't it's napalm you're talking about after After Trump asked him. So Trump came back and was like, all right, what a finally. And then he goes, well, this is a quote from Trump after he again said, you know, this is Napalm. You're confused. He said, well, I think you just didn't like the movie.
Starting point is 00:48:57 What the fuck is wrong? You know why? Because again, it's like, it's unbelievable. You know what's unbelievable that people will vote for him again that's what that's what I love
Starting point is 00:49:08 it's like it's so crazy there's like nothing he can do to lose votes yeah I mean to lose some but I would love to
Starting point is 00:49:15 not to like he should have zero votes right but I would love to just hear someone who is like a veteran like a Vietnam combat veteran who voted for Trump
Starting point is 00:49:24 if they were in that room and go, yeah, this guy gets it. And also too, it's a similar thing with Brendan too. When he's confronted
Starting point is 00:49:33 with somebody who knows how deep of a failure he is, he gets like this. Because Brendan knows, oh, you cheated
Starting point is 00:49:40 at the election. And then with non-vets, they're looking at it like, I fucking fought in 1969 yeah i was a fucking combat medic yeah okay you're out here ducking and dodging the fucking draft with your bone spurs right that must make him feel so fucking small that he would never cede ground to this person right he couldn't even just say i was wrong about that thing like oh i'm
Starting point is 00:50:00 sorry you're right like i'm sorry the person who was actually there may know. The movie about the Vietnam War with a bunch of people who were in the Vietnam War, but who have way more information than he does. He couldn't just conceive. Kirby, it sounds like you just didn't like that movie. It's like in Clueless where Cher's arguing about that line from Hamlet, and she's like, I think I know Shakespeare. And she's like, I think I know Mel Gibson better than you.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I'm sorry, what? Yeah, in both cases, both statements are true with regards to Trump. And finally, Omarosa is still dropping that heat. Yeah, more tapes, more tapes, more tapes, more fire, more fire. There might be 200 of them? Is that inaccurate? Yo, there's a report that she might have like 200 of these things. God bless Omarosa. And you know why?
Starting point is 00:50:42 She's penance, right? Yeah, well, Lacey Mosley's been sharing some funny tweets about and you know why she's his penance right yeah well lacey mosley's been sharing some funny tweets about you know because you know black people canceled her for caping for trump and being his token basically and being his bulletproof i'm not racist shield yeah right he's like no no he's fine he's like let me take eat up all this criticism and now people like okay well maybe if she brings the tapes back we'll let you back at the cookout we'll sneak you you know leftovers through the fence but so the thing now we're starting to see i think she's very very smart you know like she's definitely figured out how to play him because she's all it seems like she has a pattern right she teases
Starting point is 00:51:14 knowing about something lets them deny it then drops the tape teases something gets them to deny it then drops the tape so the latest thing was on monday or earlier this week she was, you know, they offered me this job to basically do nothing to shut up or whatever. They're like, no, you know that we wouldn't do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Cut to now she's dropped the tape where Laura Trump, who is Eric's nurse or wife or whatever their relationship is. Eric Trump's wife, I guess, telling Omarosa like, hey, you know, if you can just shut the fuck up and not say anything negative about the campaign, we'll give you a quote unquote job on the quote unquote campaign where we will pay you $15,000 a month or about $180,000 a year. And they're like, you can work or not work. Just maybe come to a couple of speaking events when we need our token or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:58 And she refused it or whatever. But and then on the tape, though, Laura Trump also says, you know, this money is coming from small donors. Small amounts is not coming from like a PAC or anything like that. These then on the tape, though, Laura Trump also says, you know, this money's coming from small donors, small amounts. It's not coming from like a PAC or anything like that. These are like the people. So that was another weird thing because...
Starting point is 00:52:11 Was that herself? She was like, look, this isn't coming from PAC. This is coming from small Americans. I don't know. It was weird. I think they were just saying that's where the money
Starting point is 00:52:17 was coming from. But the FEC were saying, or at least former people were saying like, that's probably a felony to use your campaign funds to just give a hush money. Again, but this
Starting point is 00:52:25 is the pattern in this lighthouse yeah um and the fallout hasn't continued because even after that the response was like uh brad parscale or whatever his social media his comms director guy who works in the campaign was like oh well you know she was talking about the small dollar donations to show that like we're really careful about how we use their money and we care, like they did not know how to spend this at all. This was after she was fired? So this is post-election after she was fired, they're like, hey, shut up and we'll keep paying you?
Starting point is 00:52:57 Is that what? I believe this is yeah, after that. So goddamn. I've just sort of like, hey, we know you're leaving, but we wanna give you this job, wink, wink, shut the fuck up money. And like, hey, we know you're leaving, but we want to give you this job. Wink, wink. Shut the fuck up, money. Right. And yeah, Brad Parscale, he tweeted this.
Starting point is 00:53:10 He's a campaign manager, sorry, for Trump. Tweeted this yesterday. Latest tape from Omarosa shows how much Trump family cares about pocketbooks of our donors. When Laura Trump warns about all campaign money coming from average Americans, Laura says the right thing. Protecting our donors and helping people understand we are powered by the people. Huh? We're not allowed to use their money.
Starting point is 00:53:31 I mean, whoever gave money to them, idiots. But you think the small people think their money is going. I guess, you know what? Maybe they do think it's going to hush money. Right. At this point, they're like, hey. They're just like, whatever. Shut her up. As long as he's in power.
Starting point is 00:53:41 It's like, how much longer are we going to sort of deny that people don't know what Trump is doing? He's very obvious about what he's doing. How much longer are we going to be like, well, you know, they don't know. They're insecure. They do, in their mind, want the country to be better. It's like, you've seen this, Matt. He doesn't hide who he is. It's all varying degrees of denial for these people.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Yeah. It's all triggering the libs. Yeah. Just to own the libs. Own them libs. Yeah. Just to own the libs. Own them libs. Own it. And the other thing, then the GOP tweeted a thing that was like, I guess she forgot about these tapes.
Starting point is 00:54:11 And it was just like her being a surrogate on the campaign trail saying nice things about him. Okay. Yeah. He really showed her. Like, shut the fuck up. Y'all don't even know how to talk shit right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Very frustrating. By the way, the tapes where she's like how to talk shit right. Yeah. Very frustrating. By the way, the tapes where she's trying to warm up the Trump crowd and everyone's just like, just not responding. And she's doing a good job as a hype man and everyone's just like, stop talking. Of course. Get a white person on. Of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Those are painful. Anyways, we're going to take another quick break. We'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson.
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Starting point is 00:55:52 I'm Danielle Robay. And we're the hosts of The Bright Side, the daily podcast from Hello Sunshine that is guaranteed to light up your day. Every weekday, we bring you conversations with the culture makers who inspire us. Every weekday, we bring you conversations with the culture makers who inspire us. Like our recent episode with Grammy award-winning rapper Eve on her new memoir and the moments that made her. It became a theme in my life, the underdog syndrome of being questioned, of the, would they say this to a man? No, they would not. Like, why? That was one of those moments where you're just like, oh, wow.
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Starting point is 00:57:51 Our podcast, Hungry for History, is back. Season two. Season two. Are we recording? Are we good? Oh, we push record, right? Okay. And this season, we're taking an even bigger bite
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Starting point is 00:58:52 And the Catholic Church is still really fucked up not not a whole lot new to say but i would feel remiss not bringing up the attorney general report from pennsylvania just the shocking scope and cruelty of the behavior described is like you, the only place you see this sort of shit is in like the eighties satanic panic, like the made up shit where people were like claiming Satanism was like sweeping the nation. Like that's how these priests behaved towards children. And these were supposed to be the especially holy people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:24 There was what, something like 300 predator priests that they were just shuffling around to kind of obscure over 70 years? Yeah, who abused 1,000 people who were willing to come forward. Yeah, 1,000 who were willing to come forward. Right, the vast majority of victims. It takes them years and years to want to come forward. Well, yeah, because I think a lot of them are adults now, they were a lot of them were saying like we're doing this because for the younger victims it we understand it took me to get to the age of my 40s or whatever there's one guy who was like 80 or in his 80s who was like coming out and talking about it um and it does
Starting point is 00:59:59 seem like the actual vatican is coming for everybody who, you know, is involved with this, but there's still, like, the Bishop of Pittsburgh came out and said, this is a report about a Catholic church that no longer exists, even though the New York Times is reporting that there were anonymous figures from the Catholic church who, right up until the end, right before this report was published, were trying to get this report suppressed. So they were still trying to silence the victims right up to the very end. And yeah, but Bishop David Zubik needs to go. And if this pope is worth all the credit people are giving him, he needs to step up and clean
Starting point is 01:00:44 house. I don't even, yeah. It's one of those things, too. I don't know how you can, how do you police that? Like, at what point do, you know, where are the charges for the leadership in the church that were obscuring all these crimes? It can't just be like, oh, well, you're demoted from, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:03 bishop to just regular priest now or well it's also the it's the system it's it's exactly it's like when people are like the american system's broken you're like no it's doing exactly what it was meant to do it was meant to enslave certain people and it keeps doing it it's like that with it's i feel like that with the catholic church where they're like you got a clean house you got like how do we change these it's like no that's a system they have a system they move people around they shuffle them when it's not like you know what i mean like it's not like people they this stuff is known to happen they shuffle priests and bishops and whoever around and they cover things
Starting point is 01:01:33 up and they silence people through intimidation it's also like the way the church is set up in general sort of breeds this disease i guess guess. Like it's the system. Or is it a celibacy issue too? Does that lead to more of this deviant behavior too? I think that's part of it because it's psychological right this time. Well, I mean, in my opinion, like the celibacy combined with like
Starting point is 01:01:56 the puritanical nature of it and all of this sort of stuff like leads. And then also the patriarchy, it will obviously lead to sort of like dominance and violence. And that often breeds a sexual violence towards people that can't speak out. Yeah. And we spoke to a friar who's like a type of Catholic person. Clergyman.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Clergyman back when I was at Crackton. Clergymen. Clergymen. Back when I was at Crackton, he was saying that a lot of people in the Catholic Church, like officials and priests and clergy, view these instances of sexual abuse as on the same level as premarital sex. It's just all the same. It's just- Just tsk, tsk.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Right. Tsk, tsk, essentially. Yeah. Because they're all sinning in the- So say it's from Hail Mary and say you're good. Yeah. They're all sinning in the eyes of God. My goodness.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Hey, speaking of the Pope, guys, Mark Wahlberg has a movie coming out this weekend. I think everybody remembers Mark Wahlberg. When the Pope came to America, who would introduce him but Mark Wahlberg? Wait, really? Yeah, Mark Wahlberg was the hype man for the Pope. For the Pope Pope? Yeah, for the Pope Pope. He came to Philadelphia Philadelphia and Mark Wahlberg
Starting point is 01:03:06 was out there you know a guy associated with Boston was out there in Philly I was going to say he's not from
Starting point is 01:03:11 oh yeah and you know he clearly didn't think that was weird hey you guys like this Pope yeah you guys like I'm kind of like the Pope
Starting point is 01:03:20 how did that I gotta do some more research into this after that who why he's not does he seem particularly pious I think I think he's a he's a the Pope. How did that, I gotta do some more research into this after that. Who, why, he's not, does he seem particularly pious?
Starting point is 01:03:27 I think he's a, he's a Catholic in public and therefore the Catholic church was like, sure. You know, you know that saying
Starting point is 01:03:36 about Mark Wahlberg, Catholic in the streets, Zoroastrian in the sheets. That is what they say. So, he has a movie coming out this weekend Mile 22
Starting point is 01:03:46 That we've been laughing about Ever since we saw the trailer When he's like What does he say in the He goes You should be careful Or something like that You should be careful bro
Starting point is 01:03:54 Yeah You should be careful Some guy threatens him And he just Just parrots the exact same thing Like Mark Wahlberg But like in a Mark Wahlberg way Sir is this your car?
Starting point is 01:04:04 Is this your car? Is this your car? Is this your car, bro? Yeah. It's your car, bro. Sorry to Daniel Van Kirk, who should be doing this. Yes, exactly. But it's amazing for a couple reasons.
Starting point is 01:04:14 First of all, he plays a genius in this one. Wait, really? We didn't gather that from the trailer. No, no, we didn't. But yeah, in reading up on it, he's a genius sociopath who is using the sociopathic ways of the US intelligence agency
Starting point is 01:04:31 to fight the sociopaths on the street. He's a ghost, according to Super Producer. No, is that a spoiler or not? Or is that real? No, that's in the trailer, I think. They're like, he's a ghost. But like, yeah. Not like just a-
Starting point is 01:04:43 It's like expository dialogue. Oh, okay, okay. A spook ghost. Like not a just a it's like expository dialogue oh okay a spook ghost like not a yeah not like six cents yeah he's a ghost could you imagine it then
Starting point is 01:04:53 yeah bro I've been a ghost this whole time bro holy shit I got you bro boo so anyways mile 22
Starting point is 01:05:01 this weekend Mark Wahlberg playing a smart person which mile 22 is almost like miles. Yeah. Thank you. And my favorite number, 22.
Starting point is 01:05:11 I wore 22 in hockey. As everyone knows. And I wore 22 when I played JV basketball. Whoa. Look at that. Junior high. I didn't play high school. You are mile 22.
Starting point is 01:05:20 All because the player Ed Gray from Berkeley, a teammate of Jason Kidd, one of my favorite basketball players, wore number 22. And that is the Miles History Roundup. Nice. So that is going up against Crazy Rich Asians. I'm going to see that tonight. I saw it last night. I'm so excited.
Starting point is 01:05:34 I wanted to see it on Wednesday, but I couldn't because I was working. But I'm so excited to see it tonight. It's a lovely film. I can't wait. It's a good rom-com. I laughed. Michelle Yeoh is like a dream. Oh, Michelle Yeoh. I can't wait. It's a fun, it's a good rom-com. I laughed. I fucking got it. Michelle Yeoh is like a dream. Oh, Michelle Yeoh.
Starting point is 01:05:47 I can't wait. I mean, she's been a dream forever, but I feel like I've missed her. I can't wait to see her. Yeah, I mean. I feel like seeing family. Everyone's really great in it. Constance Wu is great.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Awkwafina fucking crushes it. Yeah. Ken Jeong is even really funny. I mean, everyone's really. Nico Santos is in it. I can't wait to see. He's so good. It was, yeah. It can't wait to see. He's so good. Yeah, it's good. It's good.
Starting point is 01:06:07 It's good. It was a little bit different than Black Panther. Being someone who's Asian and black this year, I was like, oh shit, I'm fucking winning. I'm fucking winning. And I realized... Year of Miles, baby. No, it's like, you know, Black Panther, there's something that speaks to the black diaspora of especially slavery and what that
Starting point is 01:06:23 looks like. and I think being African American, there's a lack of connection to Africa that allows us to connect with this idea of Wakanda a little bit easier
Starting point is 01:06:31 because being, Africa's already abstract for African Americans. We don't come here, we didn't immigrate here where we were like, oh, these are our traditions
Starting point is 01:06:38 from Cameroon, Senegal, whatever. Yes, we don't, you don't eat in the same food. No,
Starting point is 01:06:42 I just know I'm here and my last name is not my last name. Yes. So the emotions I felt in Black Panther were much different than the ones I felt in Crazy Rich Asians. Crazy Rich Asians was great because it was dope to see an Asian cast with cultural touchstones that I could recognize, but also it's slightly different. Asian people are very much connected to their culture for their specific country that they're from. So me being Japanese, I don't quite understand everything about Chinese culture.
Starting point is 01:07:09 But a lot of Asian culture is very similar that is recognizable. And I'm like, yes, OK, I get that. Yes, these jokes I connect with. Then there are other things that were like sort of there was a scene where there's like a bunch of text messages being sent. And some of the like the words that were used, I didn't quite understand. scene where there's like a bunch of text messages being sent and some of the like the words that were used i didn't quite understand yeah but aside from that to see the film and just to kind of see that like oh yeah like it's dope to see a story that deals with kind of like a general conflict a lot of asian people can identify with or like very overbearing parents who are controlling over
Starting point is 01:07:39 the lives of their children like regardless of where you're from that's that's a given and even for most other countries, even if you're not Asian, that resonates. And it was nice to see like you can tell a story that resonates very widely with a predominantly Asian cast,
Starting point is 01:07:53 with using Asian culture as the vehicle for that. And that was very great for me. There were people in the crowd who were like screaming at certain parts that I didn't quite get. But it wasn't that it was like inside baseball or anything.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Yeah. But I really loved it. And it was such, man, it really did. There were moments where even the sappiest romance shit, I was even getting like, yeah, damn, he loves her though. Like it was, and I'm like, yo, this is a good rom-com because I felt the rom and the com. Usually I'm here for the com, not here for the rom.
Starting point is 01:08:25 And you know what? Shout outs to them because it's a very well done movie. I'm excited. I don't love rom-coms either, but I love specific rom-coms. Like,
Starting point is 01:08:33 I like, like, you know, like midlife coming of age rom-coms? Like, Hello, My Name is Doris. Like,
Starting point is 01:08:38 that stuff speaks to me. Or I just saw Enough Said. Like, old people romance. Right, right, right. or not more, like, like midlife, like 40s right, right. I like like, or not more like,
Starting point is 01:08:45 like midlife, like 40s and 50s. I'm like, yeah, love should still be alive in a fun young way or like it's complicated, but then they're generally
Starting point is 01:08:52 also much older white people. Right. But I like rom-coms that are just like a little bit different. So if it's like that, then it's like the age or I'm excited to see
Starting point is 01:08:59 Crazy Rich Asians because it like looks different. Yeah. Or I just watched, what's that one on Netflix with Lucy Liu and David? Oh, Set It Up? Yeah, just a romantic comedy where people just look different to the way they normally look in traditional romantic comedies.
Starting point is 01:09:13 I thought that was okay. I thought it was pretty good. I thought the same thing. I thought it was okay. I think there was not enough time spent on Lucy Liu, who's a goddess and a queen. I agree. It was really not enough. Fully agree.
Starting point is 01:09:22 She's very underused. Underrated. That is someone who's wildly underrated how did she get left behind she must have had an opinion about her I think she had an opinion before opinions were cool
Starting point is 01:09:34 is what I think I think she was like I don't want to do that I'm too good for that and they were like you're Asian you have to do it and she was like
Starting point is 01:09:40 no and that's what I think if she was time wise a little bit like you know what I mean she's a bit before her time yeah that's what i think if if she was time wise a little bit like like you know what i mean she's a bit before her time yeah that's that's my opinion i don't know i don't know her she might be i don't know but i just think if you ever saw kill bill come on she's a gem she's incredible yeah it's uh yeah but the movie was great and i man it was so it was really funny and
Starting point is 01:10:01 i i really liked it constant was really good and again just as it. Constance Wu was really good. And again, just as a rom-com, it functions so well as a rom-com. And yo, it's just, you know, represent. I've heard that. I listened to KPCC on the way here. That guy. You don't say. They had nothing but great things to say.
Starting point is 01:10:19 They said he's like an instant movie star, the lead guy. I don't know. Oh, is he kind of a newcomer? Yeah, he's never done a movie before. This stuff does make me angry. Good for him. Good for him. We need representation.
Starting point is 01:10:28 This makes me angry. Motherfucker. He was a travel host before this. Yeah, Henry Golding. He's done nothing. Yeah. No acting. Wow.
Starting point is 01:10:39 I'm out here doing freaking funny or die videos for half my career. Where's my movie? Travel videos are harder than they look. I got to get into travel. That's what I got to do. I got to do something else. It's like when models just get. She had to go to all those beautiful places. Yeah, you have to do something else, it seems, and then get in.
Starting point is 01:10:53 Anyways. I have to just say one thing. My friend, Alan, he's Korean, and his mom texts him. She goes, I think your friend Miles kind of looks like Henry Golding. And then so I go up to Her Majesty, my girlfriend, and I go, yo, so somebody thought I looked like Homeboy on screen. She goes, you're not that cute. And she smacked me down.
Starting point is 01:11:14 And I was like, yeah, but you're right. He's got it. That jawline is impossible. Let me see him. Yeah, he's like British Malaysia. Her Majesty keeps Miles in line. Yes, exactly. That is for certain.
Starting point is 01:11:26 I don't think he looks like, but I don't think he's like more handsome. He has just a different look. He looks like Superman. Thank you, Kirby. Keep going. It's different. You're like cool.
Starting point is 01:11:35 You're swaggy. He does look like Superman. No, you are. You're swaggy. He's like Superman. No, he's chiseled. He should probably just be Superman, right? He's a British Malaysian piece of granite.
Starting point is 01:11:45 It's a different look. I mean, it's Hollywood also. Everyone in Hollywood is beautiful. So, of course, every actor in this is going to be beautiful in any movie. It's like the same with... Although, actually, I do think Black Panther, again, was different and did show different, more like look diversity. But that's also a different thing because it's more...
Starting point is 01:12:04 I mean, it's just another movie that has a predominantly uh minority cast but like you were saying your points earlier i think were very valid about like the idea of africa and not knowing whereas asian people very much know like i'm asian but i'm this i'm i'm from this place i'm from this yeah this is the history of where i come from yeah this is my just because you might think i look at this person our traditions are completely different. Whereas, yeah, as black people, I mean, my family are Caribbean. I know that much. But to go back to Africa where we're from, I couldn't tell you that. So I have my own traditions because I have Caribbean modern traditions.
Starting point is 01:12:36 But they are relatively modern compared to what would have been my ancestors' traditions and histories. Check out Crazy Rich Asians. I can't wait to see it. But anyway, and also be on the lookout for my film, what would have been like my ancestors traditions histories anyway I can't wait to see it but anyway and also be on the lookout for my film broke ugly biracials coming soon alright that is all the time we have.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Kirby, it's been a pleasure having you. Where can people find you, follow you? Oh, man. Listen, I know this isn't the show to say this, but I'm over social media. I don't want to play the game anymore. They have to find me in the real world. I do shows at UCB.
Starting point is 01:13:20 I go to the Atwater Farmer's Market on a Sunday. That's it. How do they find out where the show is, though? You don't even post that on social media? Someone else will post it. Oh, there you go. I can't play the game. It's a whole other topic to get into on a whole other day.
Starting point is 01:13:33 No, we were talking about this on the way to lunch yesterday. It's kind of a game. It's like Vegas. The house always wins. You never leave social media going, I feel better about the world. It's like every time I go, I know I'm going to feel worse. There's enough things to feel bad about.
Starting point is 01:13:49 You think I'm already in therapy? I don't i can't i don't need it i don't need it exactly so i guess i shouldn't ask if there's a tweet you've been enjoying um you know what i actually when i was going through tweets and looking and and just being like i'm done with all of it it's so old though there was this fun tweet where someone had said what like they had taken a picture of you know how water is two hydrogen and one oxygen have you seen that tweet? and it basically if you look at the molecule it looks like a butt with a thong and someone wrote water low-key thick and it's really funny it's really funny it's really really funny and that's that's what makes me miss Twitter because I'm like some things are so funny and so inventive. And it used to be that.
Starting point is 01:14:28 But now for every one of those, there's 25. And I'm reading. Sorry, I know you're signing out. But I'm reading the four agreements. And one of the agreements is be impeccable with your word. And I realize that Twitter is the direct opposite of being impeccable with your word. Like being impeccable is like without sin. Like you don't want to gossip.
Starting point is 01:14:47 You don't want to like, you know, know that your words are powerful because they are. Like you say something and it has an effect on someone. So your words are powerful. And I realized that Twitter is a place where we abuse language. Yeah, and just chat shit. Just chat shit. We just abuse how much power we have. Like go and kill yourself, you ugly bitch.
Starting point is 01:15:04 It's like that actually does have some power. Even though you think it's to no one, we just don't realize how powerful we are. And Twitter is, like, truly a... I mean, like, the election got won. People are like, how did this happen? You're like, see the reach of words? Do you see how far words can go?
Starting point is 01:15:20 Yeah, rhetoric is powerful. So, sorry, guys. Come to the farmer's market. Come find me IRL. I get that. Come find me IRL, but don't, like, come find me because I'm scary. Hey, sorry guys. Come to the farmer's market. Come find me IRL. I get that. Come find me IRL, but don't like come find me because I'm scary.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Hey, there you are. Oh, shit. I found your address. Yeah. The Four Agreements, that's a like self-improvement book. Yeah. Practical Guide to Personal Freedom.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Yeah, I know people have, and you're not going to agree with everything. Take and leave it. No self-help book is going to be like, I think some of the stuff they say, and there's one part that like like they talk about words and they talk about like one of the things is don't take things personally and they were like you shouldn't take anything personally i was like i get that but there are some words that are backed up by systems
Starting point is 01:15:57 so they are personal like if someone was like hey you're a black it's like sure in abstraction that might not be i might not like i know that says more about them than it does about me, but they do live within a system that backs up that thing. So I have to take that personally. Yeah. But like, there's one part that's like, you can't take anything personally. You're like, well, that's broad. Ignore everything. That's a lot.
Starting point is 01:16:18 Ignore everything. And true, it does say something more, you know, in someone's- Don't take this assault on your freedoms personally. Right, right. Exactly. It's like, come on, guys. They should be able to, like, it says more about them than you rise above it. Yeah, it says they're beating the shit out of me right now.
Starting point is 01:16:30 I don't dig the turn the other cheek. I don't dig that in anything of just, yeah. I think in certain contexts it can help. In certain contexts it helps. Yeah. But you can't apply that to every situation on earth. Yes. If you're in a job situation and someone says something, it's like some things you've got to let go.
Starting point is 01:16:43 But other things it's like you can't just be like, I understand. Or you can say that, but then you can go and do something about it. Yeah, right. You know, later. You don't have to have revenge, but you know. No, but I mean, you could correct the wrongs. Yeah, it's like, yeah. I'm not talking about revenge.
Starting point is 01:16:57 This podcast has been confusing maybe to people who maybe now think I'm talking about revenge and have maybe said that all Asian people look like that. I hope people listen to the whole thing. Nah, you're good. You're good. You're good. Actually, it's been so fun talking to you that we forgot about the segment Bloid Watch. Bloid Watch.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Which is where we take people through what's on the cover of tabloids that they are seeing in grocery store checkout lines. I love that. Not a whole lot going on. It's the same shit. I think we're reaching a crossroads with Blood Watch a little bit. Because it starts off strong, and sometimes we get good, juicy headlines,
Starting point is 01:17:33 and other times it's just the same shit. Like, I'm tired. So this week, everything is basically either Brad Pitt hates Angelina, and this divorce is getting messy, and then, oh, him and Jennifer Aniston are getting married, or Jennifer Aniston is fully divorcing Justin Th, oh, him and Jennifer Aniston are getting married or Jennifer Aniston is fully divorcing Justin Theroux
Starting point is 01:17:48 or now they're back together or Prince Harry and Meghan have adopted an African child. I don't know anything anymore. And it's, you know, honestly, Omarosa just, I'm looking out for those tapes now. Yeah, I feel like tabloids are the only place still talking about Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie yo like what why is this it's a time warp though but it's
Starting point is 01:18:12 because when like when you're in an editorial situation and you know you need hits yeah you go back to the well play the fucking hit play the fucking hits baby and the hits for them are always going to be Brad Pitt and whoever he's trying to talk about. Yeah, them, like a month without the Cowboys
Starting point is 01:18:31 talking about Brad and Jennifer Aniston would be like Trump doing a rally where he doesn't bring up the wall or how John McCain fucked up the Obamacare
Starting point is 01:18:39 repeal vote. Right. It's like, it's impossible because when you're out there, play the fucking hits, baby. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah. Also, I forgot impossible. Because when you're out there, play the fucking hits, baby. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah. Also, I forgot to say that if you need another reason to vote with your wallet for Crazy Rich Asians instead of Mile 22,
Starting point is 01:18:53 Mark Wahlberg almost murdered a Vietnamese shop owner when he was 16 years old and called him a racial slur. Yeah. And his victim has forgiven him. So the bigger man in every sense. And also Mark Wahlberg's character, who is supposed to be a genius, he and Peter Berg, the director, based him on, come on, think about it.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Who's the biggest genius that we know of right now? Steve Hawking. No, got the first name right. Steve Bannon, bro. Wait, what? They had him watch interviews with Steve Bannon, and were like, see see this is the type of genius you are and they were like he's so smart what what is his fucking genius steve bannon
Starting point is 01:19:30 because he's shameless uh because he's on manipulative i think they were confusing cocaine with brother if if that makes him a genius i'm smarter than stephen hawking you find me in 2011 i was fucking i could see you're so smart i 2011 I was fucking you were so smart I was seeing the fucking Matrix come down bro that is crazy I know that's Steve Bid
Starting point is 01:19:53 yo that's a total reason to be like fuck this movie that you're even like oh this guy's admirable or unless he's total evil is that the deal
Starting point is 01:20:01 no he's the protagonist has Mark Wahlberg ever played somebody who's evil you know what's so funny about that that's like just even terrible acting stuff yeah like that's like bad on all fronts to be like okay look it's like a weird thing like in drama school or in shitty acting classes where they like study this thing and it actually is not right at all it's completely off the mark like Steve Band. Like, they try to be method about one element of it. Right. But completely
Starting point is 01:20:28 missed the mark. Um. Ridiculous. It is ridiculous. Miles. Yes. Where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter
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Starting point is 01:20:43 the daily zeitgeist where we just uploaded a new design a really nice uh you know off-brand uh inspired uh design check that out uh and you know cop that because that helps the show out tremendously and it says merchandise yeah quote unquote merchandise uh and yeah i just want to shout out two tweets uh the first one is by anna salinas uh you know her from numerous how stuff works podcasts uh and this is her tweet me i don't facebook stock i facebook rock my therapist i think we should switch to twice a week uh and also this is from e alex young uh crazy rich asians beating a mark Wahlberg film at the box office is vengeance. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:27 There you go. A couple of tweets I've been enjoying. Teresa Lee, who you know from this show and just being great tweeted crazy rich Asians has a 92 on rotten tomatoes, which is technically an a minus, but according to my mom would be an F she at egg underscore dog tweeted friend. You heard about these QAnon conspir F. She. At egg underscore dog tweeted, friend, you heard about these QAnon conspiracies?
Starting point is 01:21:48 Me. It's pronounced quinoa. So stupid. Who is that? Egg dog. All right, egg dog. All right, man. Egg dog.
Starting point is 01:22:04 You can follow me at jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. And guys, we are going to be- Oh, announcement, announcement. Announcement. Pay attention. We're going to start releasing our episodes in the morning. We're going to have Monday's episode Monday morning. We're going to have Tuesday's episode. You get it. It's going to be in the morning now, so you can-
Starting point is 01:22:22 In the morning. In the morning. Top of the morning. Basically, the way this will affect you is instead of having an episode next week that comes out Friday afternoon, you will have one that comes out Monday morning. Yes. So anyway, just basically starting Monday, rise and shine. Yep.
Starting point is 01:22:40 Because I know a lot of y'all like to commute and keep us in your ears or your stereos, so now you can do it and don't have to keep it the next day or save them. Exactly. I know of y'all Like to commute And keep us in your ears Or your stereos So now you can do it And don't have to You know Keep it the next day Or save them Exactly I know how y'all rock
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Starting point is 01:23:05 You can also find the footnotes in the description of the episode and the information about the episode. Just click on more information. You will see the footnotes. Miles, what's the song we're going to ride out on? Oh, today, let's do a little Afrobeat from Tidiane Kone, who is from Mali, I believe. Afrobeat artist out of there. And this song is called Janpa Makni. And it's just got, like, look.
Starting point is 01:23:29 This is like a summer vibe. Start grilling your meats. Hang out outside. It's got that nice instrumentation. It feels light. It feels like a party. So enjoy your weekend. Be kind to each other.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Enjoy your weekend. Be kind. Herbie, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you guys so much for having me. This was so much fun. We're going to ride out on that song, and we will be back Monday morning, bright and early. See you guys then. Bye.
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Starting point is 01:27:18 Chichipe Chichipe Chichipe Chichipe Chichipe Chichipe Chichipe Chichipe Chichipe Chichipe Titi Fè, kona Tita ni mwa dòm ba di fè kukukua jantala Titi Fè, kona Tita ke dòm dùku fè ula jantala Titi Fè, kona Tita nga fè kibà fè kukukua jantala Titi Fè, kona Tita ke dòm dùku fè ula jantala Titi Fè, kona Tita jì dùku fè dùku jantala Titi Fè, kona Tita ke dòm dùku fè ula jantala
Starting point is 01:27:42 Titi Fè, kona Tita mi dì ba di fè dùku jantala Titi Fè, kona Tita ke dòm miribali fe, kugo jantala Titipe, kwenetita, miribali fe, kugo jantala Titipe, kwenetita, miribali fe, kugo jantala Titipe, kwenetita, miribali fe,ungu jantala tun, ndi tifer, ndi tifer, kone tita tenye, kone tita tenye, ndi tifer, kone tita tenye, ndi tifer, kone tita tenye, ndi tifer, kone tita tenye, ndi tifer, kone tita tenye, ndi tifer, kone tita tenye, ndi tifer, kone tita tenye, ndi tifer, kone tita tenye, ndi tifer, kone tita tenye, ndi tifer, kone tita tenye, ndi tifer, kone tita tenye, ndi tifer, kone tita tenye, ndi tifer, kone tita tenye, ndi tifer, kone tita tenye, ndi tifer, kone tita tenye, ndi tifer, kone tita tenye, ndi tifer, kone tita tenye, ndi tifer, kone titaumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, njigumani, nyo sitne, nafiki tefenye, yateri djuku manye, chulanga kom teba, tambere kwa teba Somboraki teba, lakwa kwaya teba Atontiki teba, doronini teba Nnafiki tefenye, negotu nangafo manye Janin jugu manye, kiri jugu tefenye
Starting point is 01:29:20 Doronini nemani, nangafo tefenye Heradambali manye, kiri jugu tefenye Ndiye kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa k Tic Tic Faye Abadasa Kona Tic Tachayu Jugo Faye Ula Chanta Kona Tic Tachayu Kona Tic Tachayu Miribali Faye Digo Chantala Tun Tic Tic Faye Abadasa Kona Tic Tachayu Jugo Faye Ula Chanta Chai Chantita Kona Tic Tachayu Mandambali Faye Ula Chantala Tic Tic Faye Nafiki Iva
Starting point is 01:29:56 Kona Tic Tachayu Jugo Faye Ula Chanta Kona Tic Tachayu Kona Tic Tachayu Jugo Faye Ula Chanta Tic Tic Faye Nafiki Ima Nima Kona Tic Tachayu Jugo Faye Ula Chanta Kona Tic Tachayu Kwenakita nyo njugo fè, njugo jantala tun Niki pè, nna vikima nima Kwenakita nyo njugo fè, njugo jantala Kwenakita tun, kwenakita nyo mwanda mbè njifè, njugo jantala Niki pè, njugo njugo fè, njugo jantala Thank you. Thank you. Hey, I'm Bruce Bozzi.
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