The Daily Zeitgeist - Attorney Client Privileged, Jimmy Fallon’s Menagerie of Minority Oddities 4.10.18

Episode Date: April 11, 2018

In episode 123, Jack and Miles are joined by SMNTY's Bridget Todd to discuss the Michael Cohen raid, Trumps reaction to the raid, an overview of the Syria conflict and who's on who's side, Mark Zuckerberg testifying in front of congress, TJ Miller being arrested for a bomb threat, Cardi B on Fallon and how people are treating her, Conor McGregor's freak out, Shohei Ohtani being a great baseball player, & more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We all know something is wrong in our culture, in our politics, and that we need to do better and that we can do better. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to Season 26, Episode 2 of Daring Daily Zeitgeist! For April 10th, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Here Comes the Men in Jack Galaxy Defenders.

That was courtesy of Walter Chestnut Jr. Oh, love his dad. 18th century gunslinger, based on that name. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Gray man. Fighter of the night, man.

Thank you so much to Christopher Dean for that always sunny reference. One of my favorite things about that show. So you put it together, you unlock the Matrix, and shout out to you christopher dean cj dean 11 20 at twitter uh your your references stopped making sense to me a long time ago man yeah well i'm saying once i get this cold brewing you know i'm saying a lot of people demand it we're flying got a uh what's the opposite of a slow news day a quick news day we've got a quick news day today baby with illustrious And we've got our illustrious guest, like Miles was saying. Brilliant host of the Stuff Mom Never Told You podcast. She is Bridget Todd.

Hey, thanks for having me. Thank you for being here. Thank you so much. My pleasure. A.K.A. Kick It, Kick It, Yeah, That's That Bridget. Thank you. From Coolio's Fantastic Voyage. I demanded a nickname.

I'm a diva, and I demanded to have a personalized nickname. It was quick. It was quick. I had to come back with something, and I did. Thank you. I have to say, I demanded a nickname. I'm a diva, and I demanded to have a personalized nickname. It was quick. It was quick. I had to come back with something, and I did. Thank you, Miles. You are very welcome. Bridget, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Something from my search history that is revealing about who I am is the question,

are ponies baby horses? You might be thinking, of course ponies are baby horses. I did not know this. Ponies and horses are different. No. I know. Different animals. They're different animals.

The fuck is a pony? Like a little horse? Yeah. Miniature horse. It's like a mini horse. I know. This blew my mind. A friend told me this.

I could not believe it. I did some late night searching to make sure it was true, and it's true. So what's a little baby horse called? Like a horseling? I think it's a foal. A foal. See, those words always I think it's a foal. Oh. See, those words always come up. Like a gelding.

Yeah. I didn't know that word until recently. Isn't that a gelding? Like I was Alex Trebek correcting a contestant was wrong. I believe that's a foal. Foal. A gelding is a castrated male horse, yes. Oh.

So ponies. Wait, look who knows horse words. I know. Hey, well, look, I'm going to tell you, you know, I had some friends who fucked around with the equestrian culture, you know what I mean? So I picked up a few things here and there. Ponies, I knew were a different species because they are assholes. And if you've ever been around ponies, the people are like, just keep your fucking hands away from their face.

They won't bite you. Ponies are dicks. Wait, why are they the thing that's- Most horse-like animals are, like ze zebras are real assholes, too. Oh, yeah. Donkeys. Yeah, donkeys. Don't throw your ass off of them.

Horses are just this lovely creature, and then all the ones that look like horses. So they're the only ones giving the equine world a good name. Yes. Correct. Although I have seen a really interesting video of a horse biting a guy. He tries to pet him, and he bites him. Horses will do that shit, too. Horses will kill you.

Bridget, what is something that you think is underrated? Something that I think, I have mine kind of blended together if that's okay. Because I am a big food person. All I do is eat. They're both food related. All I do is eat, eat, eat. No matter what. Yes.

That song is about me. People replace eating with power. With win. I do both. Actually, mostly just eat. Okay. Underrated waffles. Overrated pancakes.

Wow. Okay. Pancakes actually suck. When you go to a restaurant, I have a lot of theories about this. When you go to a restaurant and you order pancakes,

Oh, Jack's triggered. Listen, if you're not ready for the truth, that's fine, but we're going to get into it.

I think they have the truth, Ruth. Yes. So when you go to a restaurant and you order pancakes, what you actually want is waffles or French toast because what you're thinking you're going to get is those crispy pancakes that your mom made at home on the stove. But when you go to a diner, what you're going to get is those fluffy pieces of bread. When you put syrup on it, it's going to get really nasty and soggy. You don't want that.

What you actually want is waffles. So overrated is pancakes. Don't get pancakes at a diner. And now I noticed you are wearing an Eggo t-shirt. Oh, your whole outfit is Eggo's. Now you're not sponsored by that. Oh yes, I'm sponsored by Eggo. Oh, so you're here representing, you're here lobbying for Big Waffle.

Did you not see my waffle shoes? Oh, okay. Yep. You're wearing the Nike Cortez's with the waffle sole. Shout out to them. First of their kind. But I guess, you know, the good kind of pancakes are Japanese pancakes. Ooh, tell me more.

That are thick as fuck. They look like, they give respect to the name pancake. And they are so delicious, juicy, and fluffy. Let me pull up a picture. Yeah, I'm gonna,

let me see this. Superdusher Anna Hosey a few weeks ago was trying to make them. Oh my God. Look at that. That is not a game. That pancake is not a game.

It's so thick. They almost look like biscuits. Yeah. I'm telling you, the way they're flavored, I don't know what they put into them. It's so thick. And you can also buy Look at that. That is not a game. That pancake is not a game. They almost look like biscuits. I'm telling you, the way they're flavored, I don't know what they put into them. It's so thick. And you can also buy the mix, too, so you can't fuck it up at your house. But that is the kind of pancake I like. Personally, breakfast person, I'm a savory guy.

Oh, so you don't fuck with like, you're not putting lots of syrup on it. Nope. I'm straight. I love the sweetness. Yeah. I actually will fuck with like sweet savory, like a griddle cake, where it's like sausage and then a pancake. Oh love the sweetness. Yeah. I like it. I actually will fuck with like sweet savory, like a griddle cake where it's like sausage and then a pancake. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah.

McDonald's griddle cake. McDonald's. McDonald's. McDonald's. McDonald's. McDonald's are the best. They are the best. As Jicky Sneal has always said.

What are pancakes called in Japanese? Pancake-y. Oh, okay. I don't know if there's- Oh my God. Look at this thing. I don't know if there's... Oh my God, look at this thing. There's a great scene in Inherent Vice

where Josh Brolin's character is ordering pancakes at a Japanese restaurant. I'm sure it's... Wait, did he say something different? I think he says pancake-oo. He might be off there. Cake-y is how you say cake, so I don't know where the fuck he's getting

his Romanized version of Japanese words. Anyway. So is that your underrated and overrated? Well, I have a specific overrated. Okay. Small plates. Small plates are overrated. They're so overrated.

You ever go to like small plate restaurants where- Tapas? Oh, yeah. I fucking hate it. As I call them, tapas. Oh, I fucking hate it. Goes to Spain once. Yeah, right?

I think it's fine if you're like in Spain or they're doing it right. But where I'm from, a lot of times it'll be, let's all get small things and share. And then it's $75 later and you had two bites of food. I cannot stand it. Everyone knows me. Do not take me to a small plate restaurant. I will complain the entire time and drown the room in negative vibes. You know what else I hate is that you have to make so many decisions at a small plate restaurant.

You never have an idea of how much is too much food. You know what else I hate is that you have to make so many decisions at a small plate restaurant. And it's just like you never have an idea of how much is too much food. I just basically order everything. Right. And then I go look at the waiter. And when they start looking crazy at me, I'm like, oh, is that too much? You have to get a good waiter to know that. Because a lot of times they will over-serve you and then be like, oh, man, you guys not hungry or something? Oh, these three extra plates of foie gras, I'm going to go eat themselves. Because a lot of times they will over-serve you and then be like, oh man, you guys not hungry or something?

Oh, these three extra plates of foie gras, I'm going to go eat themselves. Not that I'm eating that good all the time. I know, what is your life? Foie gras, damn. Three plates? I'm limping because of a knee injury, not because of gout. But like, have you been to Animal here in LA? I have not. See, that's a place that you would have to order numerous plates, but it's delicious.

Now, I think there's small plate restaurants. You probably don't want to eat a small plate restaurant with more than three people. Yes. Because that's when one plate ends up being like, well, I had a fork of that hamachi crudo. Yeah. I don't like it. I'm with Bridget. Yeah.

I don't like it at all. Yeah. So, you know what? Fuck it. Everybody's go to Cracker Barrel. Yeah. Yeah. I'm actually down with that.

Go to Claim Jumpers and, you go to Cracker Barrel. Yeah. I'm actually down with that. Go to Claim Jumpers and blow your gut out. Yeah. John and Vinny's, an Italian restaurant that's around the same place. It's owned by the same people. Yeah, on Fairfax. So that's a good kind of combination because you order like you have four people, you order five things and they're big enough to serve you. It's just the food's so good that you'll just eat everything.

I could get behind that. Yeah. All right. Well, look, we're going to have to. It's just the food's so good that you'll just eat everything. I could get behind that. Yeah. All right. Well, look, we're going to have to do- Underrated Italian food, guys. Have you heard about this stuff? Have you seen this stuff? You guys seen this?

You guys heard this? Bridget, what is a myth? What's something that people think is true that you know to be false? That Yoko Ono broke up the Beatles. Yeah. Fuck that. That is a big pet peeve of mine. People think that.

It was Linda McCartney. Always a woman's fault, of course. Must be, right? You know I'm a feminist podcast host. Which woman was it? Yeah. No, so who broke it up? I would say nobody. I think overall my myth is that the idea that Yoko Ono was this like hanger on shitty artist and that she was bad for John Lennon and bad for the Beatles. Actually, she's more talented than John Lennon. And John Lennon, I think, if he was still alive, would actually be kind of annoying. He would not be, like, this, like, cool person, this cool radical dude. The person who is filling that role right now, Yoko Ono.

So people talk trash about her all the time. She's a fabulous artist. Especially in Japan. Really? Yeah, they're kind of like... They don't like her? Like, cool out, mom. I mean, she's not for everybody, right? No, no, no. Especially in Japan. Really? Yeah, they're kind of like... They don't like her? Like Kulama. I mean, she's not for everybody, right?

No, no, no. So I get it, I get it. Not that she has a negative image there, but people are kind of like, okay, Yoko. If you could compare... Yoko Ono is the blank of America. Is she the Taylor Swift of Japan? No, we don't go that far.

Where everyone is sort of like, we get it, we get it. No, because she spent so much time out of Japan, too, that she's not that... I don't know. I'm not going to speak for the entire nation. But based on how I've observed how the media covers her, how my mom and my family in Japan reacts to her, it's just sort of like, oh, that's Yoko. And it's never like – they're not being like exalting her. It's like, yeah, Yoko.

Interesting. Those two have hated each other for a long time. Yeah. And I can't imagine like spending a little bit of time studying 70s, late 70s culture and like I can't imagine that there wasn't a tiny bit of racism mixed up with people being like, it was her. It was the one non-white person who's associated with the band. Yeah, man. That's sad that you say that because, you know because I was using that as part of my Japanese pride.

I was like, well, you know, we broke up the Beatles. It was like a secret way of- And now I don't have that. Cultural warfare. Sorry to take that away from you. Wait, and you- Okay, now this is a hot take you just said earlier that we just glossed over, and I know many people who probably listen to this were triggered when you said that

if John Lennon were around today, you're saying his genius or his ability is not on the level of Yoko Ono? I would say. And I'm not a. This is a hot take. I'm not a Beatles stan or anything. I just don't. I just want to know.

I think that people exalt him too much. I think if John Lennon were alive today, he'd be fine, but kind of irrelevant. We wouldn't be looking to him as a source of political enlightenment the way that I think that people think we would. I think that if Kurt Cobain were alive today, he'd be really irrelevant. I think that when people die too soon, people mythologize how great they are.

And I think if they actually were around, we would be like, oh, he's fine. But we wouldn't be looking to them as a source of political and social enlightenment. I mean, case in point, look at DMX. Exactly, exactly. The John Lennon of the modern age, just in general. Speak for yourself, because I definitely look to DMX for my source of spiritual inspiration.

I mean, don't we all? Yeah, I mean, look at Paul McCartney. Don't we all? Yeah, I mean, look at Paul McCartney. He certainly gets a lot of credit for being a great songwriter, but he also looks like... He's just kind of an awkward dude. I don't think he's like... People aren't like, oh, he's so cool.

Whereas if he had died when people started the Paul is Dead conspiracy theory, he would be the fucking legend in rock and roll. Would he be bigger than John Lennon if he had died early? That's a good question. John 11? I like John 11. John 11 is just my favorite Bible verse.

And John Lennon was still alive? Yeah. What if they both died at the same time? Who would be more? In a murder-suicide? I think it would be probably... Like tragic plane crash, they both died at the same time,

and then would people be going, or how about this? John Lennon dies first, and then eight months later, Paul McCartney dies. Is he assassinated? Sure. Same death style. Ooh, that's a really good question. Now, would people still both be like, ooh, who was the, would they be like, ooh, I think.

I think they would be viewed as like. It would be a push? The same. Yeah, it would be the same. I agree. Because they were, you know, Lennon and McCartney. Right. So I guess if they died together, then they're.

In the same way that they were great songwriters together and apart, maybe not such great songwriters. Yeah, I think that's how we'd view it. Yeah, solo Paul McCartney, not so hot. No. Yeah, I love that Christmas song, though. John Lennon wrote some. Oh, God. Wait, how does it go?

Have yourself a wonderful Christmas. Oh, my God. John Lennon's Christmas song is so good. It's Christmas, like, war is over or whatever the fuck. Yeah, happy Christmas. Did he write that with Yoko Ono? He did. Yeah.

He wrote some good songs. Yeah. I don't know, man. They were really. He wrote some good songs with Yoko Ono? He did. Yeah. They were, they were. He wrote some good songs. Yeah. I don't know, man. They were really. He wrote some good songs with Yoko Ono. Absolutely. Like,

Happy Christmas, War's Over, and so. Also, Yoko Ono was a very talented, like, visual artist before they even ever met.

So she was already like. Yeah, she was on her grizzly. Yeah, people talk, act like she was like a hanger on, but she was already.

She was very progressive. She was just like, they were having troubles relationship wise and she was like, all right, go to L.A. and just sleep with all these other people for a couple months, and then we'll get back together. And he was very problematic.

He had some unfortunate behavior in terms of how he treated women. Oh. All right. There's too much news to talk about to- To just get locked into it. Relitigate the Beatles. We're trying to take a sample of the global shared consciousness, or at least the national shared consciousness,

what people are thinking and talking about right now, today, at the moment we record it. And as we touched on in the third act yesterday, Michael Cohen, President Trump's attorney, body, bag man, his offices were raided and all hell broke loose, you guys. It all came down. It's all coming down. Right. I think. I don't know because we constantly live in a world where we're like, hey, man, here we go.

This is the one. Right. And then, you know, because we constantly live in a world where we're like, hey, man, here we go. This is the one. Right. And then, you know, who knows? But this is definitely much different because this isn't like the Mueller investigation proper. Robert Mueller found some shit that he thought was a criminal. So he told Rod Rosenstein, he's like, this might fall out of the scope of my investigation, but I'm gonna let y'all know that I think I found evidence of a crime. And then Rod Rosenstein had to refer that to the U.S. attorney in the Southern District of New York, which is like one of the most like respected.

Yes. These lawyers are like they don't fuck around. They are career like very professional attorneys. So they can't paint this office as anything but a stand up office upholding the law. Was one of the people who approved the raid a Trump appointee? Yes, he was. Yeah. And a max-out donor to the Trump campaign.

So it's hard to paint him with the partisan brush. Well, that's what they're fucking doing. I mean, like a normal person would say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But still, our own president. Yeah, what's sad is like, you know, with other times they would point at like, oh, these people donated to like Hillary Clinton in years past or whatever. And like this guy literally gave all the money he legally could to Donald Trump's campaign.

Right. You know what I mean? This guy, Jeffrey Berman. So I guess what makes this really crazy is, you know, Michael Cohen is like Trump's fixer. He's like his personal lawyer, but he's been the one who like handles the people who have like, you know, has to sign NDAs for affairs he's had or who knows what kind of just shady shit. And he just does it out of personal kindness. He just likes Trump. He just pays

$130,000, takes out another mortgage on his home to pay off Trump's old affairs. Because that's the homie. Yeah. So this is a big deal one way or another. Like whether you're a conservative and think Mueller's finally done it because he got them to do this raid, which is inevitably going to find some shit because this is, you know, this is Trump's body, man, like you were saying. Well, right. And to even get a warrant, right, means that the DOJ and FBI were like, OK, well, let's see.

Do we believe that there's evidence of a crime in here? Yes. Do we believe that subpoenaing these things will be fruitless because we don't think this person will be up front with us? They said yes. Then they went to a judge and were like, hi, we would like to bust this fucking door down and find all the receipts in there because we think there are wild receipts. And the judge looked at their evidence and clearly, because it's not a to to raid a lawyer's office especially when it's the president's lawyer no one wants to sign off on that warrant unless they know like they can't you don't want to have egg on your face after that so they did and clearly

they felt that whatever would turn up in that thing would uh you know somehow uh be evidence of a crime right now a lot of people want to talk about attorney-client privilege especially donald, but there is a thing called the crime fraud exception, which means if you're using your lawyer to shield yourself from a crime or an ongoing crime, then that shit is null because a lawyer is not a superhero who can just hide you from the law. I mean, this is some Saul Goodman shit, right? It's 100% Saul Goodman shit.

This is like shady lawyer. I mean, it really, the level- But Saul probably wouldn't have got him in this situation. Oh, no. Saul would Goodman shit. This is like shady lawyer. I mean, it really, the level- But Saul probably wouldn't have got him in this situation. Oh, no. Saul would have got him. This would never be happening with Saul. Saul would never allow this to happen.

Had to figure it out. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's the level of kind of classic cartoony shadiness. It's like off the charts, right? It's like a very specific kind of sleazy. Yeah. Right.

And it's just representative of this entire organization, this Trump White House. You know what I mean? Like, they move in weird ways. These are all men who are used to being above the law because of their privilege. You know, they don't operate within the law really. And they're having a real wake up call. They're like, wait, hold up. What the fuck?

I thought we were good. Like we don't have to abide by the law. What? When Trump had his come up and, you know, had this whole groundswell of support from, you know, right wing and conservative and white supremacists, I think people kind of forgot about the old Trump, which was this dude who had been doing illegal shit for his entire career. And then his way of solving that illegal shit was just suing people and tying it up in court. Like, that's just how the dude operates. So they're going to find something. And, you know, the thing that I'm hearing from conservatives is just like, this is a

bad precedent because you are creating the basis for this raid from a special prosecutor's investigation. And, you know, what if this just becomes a back and forth because we're now so divided that uh you know now when a democrat comes into office suddenly there's gonna be a special prosecutor looking into you know their lawyers shit right um but any reaction right now seems like it is too premature because we don't know what this trump donor who maxed out his donations to Trump and is a Trump appointee. We don't know what he saw and was like, get the fuck in there because this guy could easily destroy the evidence and would. Right, for sure. So we don't know that yet.

So I do feel like either way, it's very premature. We just know that this looks bad it looks like they saw some ill shit yeah and when you think about what michael cohen's position is in the in the squad he's the he's the fucking he's the ray donovan you know what i mean like he's the dude the fucking wolf he's harvey kytel like yo i fucked up bro you gotta help i'm in a bar man the wolf gives him way too much credit. Way too much. The wolf would not get on CNN and start threatening people.

He's not going to pull up in the Honda NSX, the wannabe Lamborghini like the wolf did. I'm pretty sure those cars drive me. Anyway, but yes, you know what I mean? He's like the guy who helps you out of everything. So, of course, there is probably going to be shit even there that has nothing to do with maybe even the kinds of things they were looking for in this warrant and be like. Yeah, that's the thing I can't stop thinking about is the scandals that are on our radar. Fine. What are the scandals that we don't even know about?

Right, right, right. Yeah. So that's just the very beginning of this story. We're going to take a break and then we're going to come back and look at Trump's response and other deeper issues going on here. We're going to take a break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate.

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And so just real quick, I wanted to give a nod to a podcast that I always listen to because they reached a new height this morning. So the New York Times podcast, The Daily, which, yes, you would think because it only has two of the words of our title that it's a lesser podcast. And you would be correct. Somehow they're number one. I don't know. Who the fuck knows? We might have to look into that. There might be some Russian interference. i don't know who the fuck we might have to look into that there might be some russian interference i don't know almost definitely uh but anyways i want to play

a piece where they're talking about uh sort of what muller might have been thinking because the idea is that uh like miles said he kicked this case to the fbi he had for some reason some suspicion that the fbi would be receptive to evidence against Trump. I don't know why. But the real story here is, so Michael Barbaro has this vocal effect that he likes to affect during interviews where he sounds like he's having a quiet orgasm whenever somebody says something. And it's not really clear what he's reacting to ever sometimes.

It's just, yeah, yeah. Miles just did it. But we just reached a new high, the new land speed record for Michael Barbaro. There used to be little mm's, but he took it. Yeah, he's definitely- Quiet orgasms. And that's right.

Shots were fired here. Yeah, all right. Let's listen to the interview. There's suspicion that what this really is, is an overreach by Mueller. The suspicion is that Mueller says, well, this is totally not part of my mandate. But if I kick this to Southern District of New York prosecutors and they get a search warrant, well, then if they come up with anything really good, they can always just kick it my way. Which is 10. And so there's real suspicion.

He definitely just came. That was like 10 seconds. I know. Yeah. But he's doing like, you know, like what I think a lot of journalists who do phone interviews do

to make it sound like you're engaged. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Because my mom, like she's a journalist. I grew up listening to her just doing interviews on the phone. Hmm, hmm, hmm, interviews on the phone yeah yeah does she do that when you talk uh no because she's not listening yeah not even pretending to listen she's like what uh she's like whoa how the fuck did you get in

here right um yeah all right so i wish my dishes so less important things uh how did the president respond to this raid yeah you took some time out just to clap back at Michael Barbaro. We're clapping back at him. Or clapping at him. Is this a feud you guys have? I don't know. I mean, I feel like this is how podcasts, we're using the hip-hop method of taking shots at bigger podcasts. So they'd be like, hey, have you guys heard of this shit? Allegedly bigger podcast.

Well, I think verifiably based on the charts, but, you know. And it's such an ill-advised one because there's absolutely no way they will ever clap back. It's a one-sided feud. Because they're cowards, right? Yeah. The New York Times, a bunch of cowards.

They're not really that kind of. For sure. Yeah. Come see me, Maggie Haberman. Maggie Haberman, by the way, tweeted this morning. This is the maddest she's ever seen the president. I feel like that's been a tweet that she's like sent out like 10 times so far just this year same thing as like when megan amram every day tweets out today was the day dronald

trump finally became the president yeah no but she's serious she's like well this is really the and he's always just at a low to middle of the road boil like and so it just must be a fucking nightmare behind the scenes right now. But anyways, yesterday he put a non-torn jacket on and sat down with different military leaders to talk about Syria. And then immediately... Then people started asking questions out loud to him. He did a little bit of Trump jazz. Let's listen.

So I just heard that they broke into the office of one of my personal attorneys. Good man. And a disgraceful situation. It's a total witch hunt. I've been saying it for a long time. I've wanted to keep it down. We've given, I believe, over a million pages worth of documents to the special counsel.

They continue to just go forward. And here we are talking about Syria. We're talking about a lot of serious things with the greatest fighting force ever. And I have this witch hunt constantly going on for over 12 months now, and actually much more than that. You could say it was right after I won the nomination it started.

This is the most biased group of people. These people have the biggest conflicts of interest I've ever seen. The President And one to your point. Mr. Democrats, all, or just about all, either Democrats or a couple of Republicans that worked for President Obama. They're not looking at the other side. They're not looking at the Hillary Clinton, horrible things that she did and all of the crimes that were committed. The attorney general made a terrible mistake when he did this and when he recused himself, or he should have certainly let us know if he was going to recuse himself,

and we would have put a different attorney general in. So he made what I consider to be a very terrible mistake for the country. It's just like a greatest hit. But you'll figure that out. He didn't say the wall yet. Why don't I just fire Mueller? Why don't I just fire him? Well, I think it's a disgrace what's going on.

We'll see what happens. But I think it's really a sad situation when you look at what happened. And many people have said, you should fire him. Again, they found nothing. One of the things they said, I fired Comey. Well, I turned out to do the right thing, because you look at all of the things that he's done and the lies, and you look at what's on at the fbi with the insurance policy and all of the things that happened turned out i did the right thing um all right spike lee i don't think

you did bro you did not do the right thing i'm seeing with him where the moment that a claim that he has made becomes verifiably untrue. He says, see, I told you so, and remakes the claim. So during the, quote, caravan story last week, he was like, and they're saying that there's rapes unlike they've ever seen anywhere, just all the rapes. And people were like, no, this is actually more like a religious pilgrimage, and you're just totally mischaracterizing what this group is like. And he was like, see, I told you.

It was rapist. And then now, at a moment when it becomes clear that it can't be a witch hunt because this got approved by a bunch of people who aren't involved at all in the thing that you've been calling a witch hunt, bunch of levels who aren't involved at all in the thing that you've been calling a witch hunt some of them appointed by you uh people who would absolutely not risk something that didn't have evidence behind it like it's now undeniable it's not a witch hunt he's like see like i said witch hunt i've been saying witch hunt it's just like no they have evidence they think they have evidence to do something clearly has a specific, tiny trickle of information coming from him from some sources that, you know, are not the sources.

Even like if you only focus on Fox News, you're not that deluded. But he's I think it's a combination of only Fox and friends and all the yes men. And also being gaslit by being a wealthy white man. Yes, exactly. Because he's never actually, he's never interacted with the legal system in a real meaningful way because he's always been able to use like sneaky lawyers

and like just dark shit to get his, just to achieve what he wants. Yeah, he's been finessing shit forever. I also think when you listen to that clip, there are so many things that I think are specifically designed to sort of be like signals to his followers and his supporters. Things like calling out Hillary Clinton and Obama, you know, making himself sound like this victim. Like poor Donald Trump has been victimized since he won the nomination by Hillary Clinton and Obama.

Like people who have a very baseline understanding of what's happening will hear that and be like, yeah, he is the victim. Poor Donald Trump. Not like let him live. And I think he's just doing this because anyone who has even a surface level understanding of what's going on knows it's not an unfair witch hunt. Knows that like like you were saying, a judge would not sign off on this. Yeah, because he's like, oh, fuck Donald Trump. Yeah. He fucked me on a condo deal 20 years ago.

Like, yeah, go do whatever you want. Like, no, that's not how it works. You're a judge. You're a condo deal 20 years ago. Like, go do whatever the fuck you want. Like, no. That's not how it works. You're a judge. You're a federal judge. Or a magistrate. Whoever it was, they're there to uphold the law. And they were like, yes, this clearly looks like something that needs to be looked into

further. Not some, you know, some fantasy shit. But again, we can't hang all our hopes on all of this. You know what I mean? We'll see what happens. Right. Just from a strategic perspective, two points. One, he really shouldn't have picked a fight with the intelligence community on the first day in office. He shouldn't have gone and just talked open shit about the intelligence community and the FBI. about him going to the red meat, Hillary, Obama. So that is the one thing about this that scares me is if he survives this, I have no doubt that he is going to, like my conservative friend was saying,

find a way to get a special prosecutor together and go after Hillary and Obama, like find ways to like create trumped up charges. And that and that is scary about this is like, this does create a precedent that, you know, yes, in one way, this can be viewed as, okay, they did Ken Starr and that was insane. So now Mueller is doing this, but I get the feeling that it's not going to be a thing where, okay, we got Mueller and now we're even. I think it's going to be a thing where they're like, oh, yeah, you want to see a fucking special prosecutor? But I think the difference is the Mueller investigation is legitimate. So for there to be an illegitimate investigation,

you would have to staff up the DOJ with a lot of fucking hacks. Right. And I think that would be a process because I don't know how many people are going to be like, you want me to pretend that I'm investigating quote-unquote crimes that you've shown me? Like, that's going to be like you want me to pretend that i'm investigating quote-unquote crimes that you've shown me like that's going to be tough because and i think that's another reason why even lawyers don't fuck with donald trump in general like he has gone so far down the pecking order of the in terms of quality of legal representation that yeah his best guy is a dude who like screams curses

like through the phone and like threatens people with physical violence right i think it's clear and also i think it's clear that anybody who gets in bed with trump he will throw you under the bus very quickly and i think people see this and say like yeah getting in bed with this guy is a bad idea for me personally and i think that he's gonna have a hard time finding people who will put their necks out for him i mean think about every time persons tried to be the good partisan guy and toe the line or do whatever Trump says, they get fucking obliterated and they retreat. And they're like, yo, I'm not doing that again. Like people, they fuck around once and they realize what the backlash is. And they're like, bro, I can't like John Kelly. Like,

I mean, he's, he's disgusting anyway, but he has shut the fuck up since all that shit went down, like over the summer. So it's a tough spot because you're defending someone that's indefensible. Yeah. But if you view Trump as a symptom of a political party or a political landscape that is getting more and more polarized and once he goes away, you still have this completely polarized landscape, then that's where something like precedent and one side doing something becomes a little bit dangerous or could become a little dangerous. Well, it's funny because when Ken Starr switched from land deal to looking at dresses with semen stains on it,

they were like, yeah, this is great. Love this. Yeah, they loved it. They loved it bad. They were certainly all about it. And at the same time, at the end of that, the American people decided we don't give a shit. Like, enough.

Fuck off. These are different things. Well, and if there's nothing here and there's still, like, American people decided we don't give a shit like enough. Yeah. Fuck off. Right. Right. These are different things. Well, and if there's nothing here and they're still like, you know, grasping at straws in another year, then the American people are probably going to be like, fuck off like enough. But I just, you know, we'll see. And I definitely don't think we're at that point now where they're going to be like, yeah, fire him, man.

There's nothing here. Do you think this is going to be the thing that takes him down or no? You're like, neither of you seem optimistic. I don't know. To me, the underhandedness gets more and more dark. You know what I mean? And the lengths they'll go to survive. There's no telling what this man will do.

And I don't know if at this point Donald Trump is more worried, like in terms of an existential standpoint, if he's more worried about being president, or maybe people find out that he's fucking broke you know what i mean because there might be the fucking tax returns might be at michael oh yeah we never got those you know what i mean so who knows what the fuck you know what i mean i don't know what his fear is right now he could be like yeah fine like me and putin yeah we just kick it at the hotel get beat on he's like but i am we're 10 i'm $10 billion. Like, fuck that. That probably is true. That would be his name.

In the Daily Beast, there was- If he got peed on with Putin, he would want that to come out. Yeah, he was like, well, we were together. Yeah, holding hands. Manly dudes, you know, that's what bros do. We hold hands and get peed on. You know what I mean? But like in the Daily Beast, this guy was writing about another like New York hedge fund manager,

like in the circles of like the finance world of New York. They're like, dude, Trump's just a joker living on credit. Like he ain't got the money. Oh yeah. And so when everyone knows that, that makes, you know what I mean? Like that's like going to the club with all fake gear on, you know what I mean? Like you got that Louis Vuitton coat on. I hate that feeling.

Yeah. You know what I mean? When you, when you got that canal street Louis Vuitton bag, you know what I mean? Totally. Jack, you've been there. I can tell. Oh yeah. Oh, I've been there.

The worst. When I was wearing my denim jacket with Jack, you've been there. I can tell. Oh, yeah. Oh, I've been there. The worst. When I was wearing my denim jacket with a rip in it, it had Gucci coming through. I had to make that fake. Anyway, so, but the bottom line is you're already operating from a sense of deep insecurity because you're like, I'm getting over on these people. And now that it's possible, again, we don't know what is in there. We don't know. We just don't know.

But so who knows? It could be great. I guess the one thing that you can look at objectively is you wouldn't get a search warrant signed off on if there wasn't a tremendous amount of evidence or something to be like, yes, there is probable cause. Right. So we can at least let that keep us warm at night. And I have reason to believe you're right that he's not worth as much money because

when I worked at ABC, we had a whole investigative story about the fact that he wasn't worth shit and was like just putting all this out there as a, you know, just to become like the monopoly man of the modern world. And he threatened the ABC investigative team with all these lawsuits until they like the story that ended up coming out was so toothless because they didn't want to risk it. It's just like Donald Trump has some money. Right, exactly. Thank you, the end. Good story. They were able to point to the fact that he always threatens lawsuits because that's what he was doing in this case, but that was about it.

But now you're coming up against the best legal minds, not legal minds, but some of the best attorneys in the country are now looking at fucking parking lot pimpin' Michael Cohen, who's not really worth a shit as a lawyer. So it's a mismatch. Right. And even to be underlined, look at when his own personal attorney was going on taking crazy L's against Michael Avenatti, Stormy Daniels' lawyer.

Oh, yeah. Repeatedly on CNN, looking like a joke, because these guys, they're like clown lawyers. They're jokers. Yeah. Clown lawyers. All right. Real quick, I did want to touch on the thing that that press conference was supposed to joke because these guys they're like clown lawyers they're jokers yeah uh all right real quick i did want to touch on the thing that that press conference was supposed to be about the syria conflict because uh so listening to uh super producer anahosnia and shereen yunez's podcast

ethnically ambiguous i have uh been kind of getting a better feel for what's going on in syria uh and just a couple of things I wanted to share with you guys that helped put the whole Syrian conflict into perspective. So something that I'm just learning, and I think a lot of people knew this, was that this all started with the Arab Spring and sort of the democratic uprising in the Middle East. And basically, that helped me make sense of the fact that Russia is so on board with the Syrian government side as opposed to the rebels, because Russia is always on the side against democracy, essentially. Of shutting shit down.

And because their spring was about democratic uprising uprising, they are, you know, going to support the Syrian government and any other government that is, you know, on the side of being authoritarian. Because you don't want your kids getting ideas. Right. And Iran also fits into that rubric. You know, they are not in favor of Western democracies. And then there's also the fact that – so Syria is mostly Sunni, and they are run by a dictator who's secular. But Iran is mostly Shia, and so there's that kind of inherent conflict. Built-in conflict, yeah. Right. And that helped me make sense of, I guess, just where we are in the conflict. Built-in conflict, yeah. Right. And that helped me make sense of, I guess, just where we are in the conflict. So, you know, America is technically on the side of the rebels,

and the, you know, 90% of Syria is Sunni. They are run by a dictator who is, you know, secular, like I said. So America is supposed to be supporting the people and the rebellion, but they haven't totally full-throatedly supported them. And Saudi Arabia, who is also Sunni, has been sort of standing on the sidelines a little bit, not really supporting because they're taking America's lead. So that also put the rise of Mohammed bin Salman in context, because like, why he's important, because he is sort of on the American side, if you're looking at things like around this conflict. So yeah, that helped make sense of it. To me, we have a piece from one of our writers that we won't have time to get into about how the military sort of freaked out about Russia's cyber powers because they're apparently just like taking drones out of the sky with cyber attacks. Yeah, their drone jamming capability is pretty good.

And there are people in the U.S. military like, yeah, how did they fucking figure that out? Right. Because apparently the drones that the U.S. is using have built in sort of like anti-scrambling mechanisms and they're running on different, I guess, frequencies. Look, I'm not a fucking dronist, dronologist. But they have a lot of built in countermeasures to sort of counteract these kinds of things and they're like, somehow Russia cracked it. Right.

But not the armed drones. Like the Predator and Reaper drones that have guns like that are armed those have not been scrammed like they haven't been able to jam those right can i say something about the whole thing which is that i think that listening to you break down sort of an overview i think highlights one of my big issues with the whole syria conversation which is that i think your average american person doesn't know the ins and out of the situation like certainly i am not a an expert on syria and it's one of those things that i feel like people don't really know that much about. So they're just sort of tuning out.

And it's like, it's very, I mean, like, we could be doing, you know, like scaling up military intervention in Syria. And I think people are like, oh, I don't really know. And I'm going to know, like, what? Where is that? Like, I think that people are not paying attention to it because it projects as like a very complex issue. And it is. And it worries me that it's not a conversation that like average folks are having because who is that going to impact? Like the American people, right? Like if they're

sending troops over, like that's going to be us. And I think that we're not even really checked in on that conversation. Yeah. Well, and what the, yeah, what the stakeholders want in this situation, right? Because I think on one hand, with the US retreating, that has emboldened like clearly this triumvirate of Russia, Turkey, and Iran to kind of come together and be like, oh, it looks like the US is taking a backseat. So we can dictate sort of what the future is going to be in this region. And that also is kind of weird because the US doesn't want to draw red lines and then not follow up on him because then that makes Trump look toothless. Right. And he's up against that, too. There's so many. It's like he's got his back against the

wall, like, you know, like and also, you know, he wanted to pull out. But then clearly there's that, which was not a good idea. John McCain was like, yo, this is why you don't say we're planning to pull out before you do it. Right. Exactly. And then look what happens. And, you know, Israel has been like apparently over the weekend, you know, Israel struck an airbase and no one still quite knows why. Like when they have had airstrikes in Syria, it's typically to like intercept shipments of like Iranian weapons to Hezbollah. And that's why they've had, but people are still kind of confused and they haven't really said so. There's so many moving parts. And yes, again, if we do enter another armed conflict, like, and we actually put boots on the ground in a really, really focused, concentrated effort to hit back at Assad's military capability and his forces, that's not insignificant.

No. This has the feel of a World War type thing. Yes. All the different sides are sort of aligning and, you know, everything that that other side stands for. You know, like you said, Turkey has traditionally been a U.S. ally, but now they have a dictator in charge. And so they are suddenly, you know, trending toward the side of Russia and dictatorships and military control in Iran. So, well, because the more and more turkey fucks around and you know krimits more human rights violations that's usually when the u.s starts to give them static

and they're like right you can't do this like come on we have bases there you can't just be violating people's human rights and the more that they do that that's just been you know deteriorating our relationship with turkey and sort of putting them closer into the iran russia party because they're like oh we we kind of like how you move And they're kind of strange bedfellows, too. Like historically, you know, Russia and Turkey have been enemies. Yeah. But anyway, I think. Sorry.

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Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back. And yeah, like we said up top, it is a fast news day. There's also what would be like a number one story happening right now with Mark Zuckerberg. Marky Zucky Babies is testifying today. Motherfuckerberg. Yeah. In front of Congress, apparently not under oath. apparently not under oath. And there were a lot of people pointing out that, huh, a lot of these politicians who he's testifying in front of

are people who Facebook has contributed to and also politicians who own a shitload of Facebook stock. So that's something that's interesting. He's in a tough spot. He is in a tough spot. You know how old people are already suspicious of Facebook? Right. Add to that that they know about Cambridge Analytica, and now they're going to grill the dude who runs Facebook?

Right. I don't know. I feel like that's a—I don't envy him. I don't know how productive it's going to be because of the greasy-handed grasp that these type of politicians tend to have on technology. Oh, God, yes. I mean, nothing makes me cringe more than watching old white politicians who someone else completely runs their social media, but they've never touched it, try to deal with this stuff, you know?

So we'll see. I think he's speaking right now, but I'm sure that will continue to stay in the news. I mean, hopefully they just come out with it and they're like, oh, we need to regulate the shit out of this thing. Right. I'm sorry, bro. That is sort of the idea. We can't just package up all of our data and ship it off to them. That is going to be a decision that is a big deal.

Facebook stock is going to take a huge hit if they do announce regulations. I would see after this, if Nancy Pelosi sells off her Facebook stock, I would take that as indication of something going to happen. Go, go, go. She dumps her half a million dollars worth of Facebook stock. All right.

And then there's just a lot of other, you know, fun shit happening. T.J. Miller arrested for a bomb threat. Dude is just crazy losing it. He was arrested at LaGuardia for a threat made back on March 18th. He was audibly slurring to the people who arrested him. The detective was like, hey, you have anything to drink tonight, pal? He only had one glass of red wine.

His response is, yeah, I had one glass of red wine. Okay? The classic drunk parent response. I have definitely used that one. Wait, does that mean I just had a glass of red wine? It's heart healthy. It's time to look on the internet. Doctors say you just have a glass of red wine.

Try it, pal. Yeah, anyway, she just had a bomb on the internet, doctors say you should have a glass of red wine. Try it, Pat. Yeah, anyway, she just had a bomb in her bag, bro. Fucking do something. There's nothing funnier than listening to a drunk person insist they're not drunk while they're drunk. It's hilarious. And then accuse someone else of having a bomb. Right. You can't win.

It's not like, you can't. Come on, TJ. Funny for about 10 seconds and then completely exhausting because they will keep doing it. Cardi B is on Fallon this whole week and I don't know man. I love her. I have a lot to say about this. I love her. I'm not a fan

of Fallon. Guys can we just cut the shit? It's gross. People treat her like she's not a woman. People treat her like she's a goddamn animal in a zoo. They fawn all over her in this way that seems so disingenuous. I love Cardi B, but the way that people... People have the wrong love for her. Some people have the wrong gift. Yeah, people have a love for her that feels very

icky to me. It looks like Pocahontas coming back from the New World in England, basically, where Jimmy Fallon is like, now, how do you say ow? Like, that whole thing yesterday was like, oh, and is that how they talk in the Bronx kind of thing? Like it's sort of like take me through your minority world.

You know what I mean? Like, yeah, it is. That's completely it. I think it grosses me out. And I love Cardi B and nobody is more happy that she is like getting her come up than me. Like I love her. Get that check also. Exactly.

Exactly. Like I love her and I'm so happy that she is making a name for herself and that she's here to stay. I love her. Shout that check also. Exactly. Exactly. Like, I love her. And I'm so happy that she is making a name for herself and that she's here to stay. I love her. Shout out to her all day. But I think that we should be able to talk about the way that people often will pick a woman of color and just be real weird to her on TV. And they'll be like, oh, isn't she ethnic, people? You know, like.

Like Tiffany Haddish. Exactly. Exactly. Like, they're like, she's so hood. Right. Exactly. Like, yo, don't talk like that. And it grosses me out. And it feels like we're not allowed to talk about it.

No, and that's why we brought it up. Yeah. Because precisely when we were watching it, I was like, I love Cardi, but I don't like this Jimmy Fallon being like, and this week's oddity from the urban landscape is Cardi B. It's becoming increasingly weird that we have all these late night shows that are hosted by identical middle-aged white dudes who are in suits. That look like you, Jack? Yeah, exactly. They're not wearing a nice vintage Guns N' Roses tee, though.

Right, exactly. That's true. Okay. But they, yeah, it's just crazy. Give Tiffany Haddish a late night show. Don't like have her on and like, okay, now Jimmy Fallon is, you know, amused by her. And now Stephen Colbert is. I don't know.

They go through like this revolving door. It's like a, they're doing this like weird circuit. And honestly, I mean, I've seen this so many times. If Tiffany or Cardi does something that's like too black or too hood right people are gonna like turn on her so quickly like I've seen this a million times and it just is it's just this weird thing of how our culture sort of consumes and is also repulsed by and even among people of color there sparks debate of like you know there are people who have this these opinions like well I don't think Tiffany had to represent

the people. Right. Or Cardi B is not representing. Like, yo, that's so much more than just like this one person acting how you believe to be out of pocket. So you think that says something about every person. Absolutely. I did love that earlier this week someone was kind of giving her static about announcing her pregnancy. And she had the best response. She was like, how do I put this in a way that's humble? I'm a millionaire. I'll be fine.

Which I did love. It's like, yes, thank you, Cardi. Let them know. Have you seen The Wedding Ring? It's worth more than all of our lives combined in here. She's very smart. For people to be like, yeah, how would you say this? What does that sound

mean? She has more to offer than her otherness and her slang of vernacular. You know what I mean? Like she's a very interesting person. She has a very interesting life. It's very intelligent. You know, like again,

maybe, and who knows, maybe tonight they'll delve into the more intellectual side. Yeah. Or he'll be like, uh, like what's a krill? Yeah.

I mean, I think that he's going to treat her like a walking rapgenius.com and be like, explain this to me. How would you say this? How would you say that? What does this mean? And I think that's what he did last night, too. Wasn't it?

What was he like? When would you say, oh, krr? Or like, you know, something like this. Right. Okay, cool. Yeah. Should have just let Cardi host. How about that?

Seriously, just give her a fucking show. Yeah, don't be like, and I will be here to supervise. Let Jimmy Fallon come exist in her world, and that would at least be more entertaining. Go to the Bronx. That'd be a better show. He would be authentically uncomfortable instead of cute Jimmy Fallon uncomfortable. I would die to see that. It's nice to have Desus, Mero, and Cardi be the super triumvirate of the Bronx.

I'm telling you. That's the next iteration of these talk shows. Give Desus and Mero a fucking late night show. It will do better than any of the other late night shows. Number one show on late night. It will crush. No, but like they say that jokingly, it would do better than any other show in late night.

Oh, yeah. Like for sure. Hands down. Gang gang. You're turning down money, entertainment industry. But again, I mean, it's like those things, like there are certain frontiers that still haven't been

you know forged we haven't explored them fully only now they're being like oh I guess Black Panther right did you know Negroes

enjoy spending money on movies wow okay well I guess they buy consumer goods too but Black doesn't travel you can't open a Black movie over overseas

that was a quote from a studio guy Black doesn't travel and yeah and again open a black movie over overseas, guys. That was a quote from a studio guy. Jesus Christ. Black doesn't travel. And again, that's the other thing too. You know Jimmy Fallon's ratings have been shit

ever since he tussled old Trump sack's hair on TV. I used to work at NBC, so this is like me calling in former family. I will never get over that. He had a role to play

in making Trump this cute, cuddly guy. He wasn't a dangerous... Yeah Like he wasn't a dangerous... Yeah. Like he wasn't a fucking... Someone spouting dangerous racist nonsense. Yeah.

Let's not forget SNL. Let him host. All right. Sports Corner. Sports Corner. That was aggressive. Thank you. I think it can be cute.

Oh. So, Kroner... Sports Corner. There you go. That's the Japanese version. Anime style. And it's the Japanese version, anime style. And it's not problematic because I'm Japanese. Okay.

Before y'all comment. Conor McGregor had just a bizarrely prolonged freakout that reminded me of the scene in Royal Tenenbaums where Luke Wilson takes off his shoe and one of his socks and hits the ball underhanded. It's an hour-long meltdown because you like see him and he like runs up to the bus and like hits it and then like throws something into the window but then like keeps running after it it's just like how can you be like that temporarily insane for that long yeah so he attacked the bus out of a guy he was fighting in it. Yeah, I guess.

I don't even know the story. It's just a fucking metal, like a dolly through the window, and like one of the guys got cut up from all the fucking glass. And then like another guy in his entourage like half-assed through a folding chair at it. Was he like, Connor, did you see me? Yeah, he was like, hey bro, I'm gang gang.

You saw that? A folding chair at a bus. Half-assed the folding folding chair at the side of the door. I don't want to cause too much damage because I am living off of your kind donations as being part of your entourage. Who knows? But yeah, I guess he's not. Dana White was kind of fucking angry. Well, not kind of. It was like, yo, this is not acceptable.

And I don't know what the fuck is happening with him. Did he get fired from UFC? He got his belt stripped. Whoa, that surprises me. Yeah. So, I mean, good for them. I mean, because I think at the end of the day, they actually know what's kind of bad for their brand.

I don't know. I kind of stuck with them. I don't know. I mean, I feel like his whole brand is being out of pocket, right? Like, that's part of who he is. But I think UFC probably doesn't want to, like, yeah, we don't need to, like, I think they already have to get over, like,

the perception obstacles of being like, all these people are out of their mind aggro psychopaths. I mean, my first thought when I saw the video was, oh, this is set up by UFC because it looks like a wrestling, like, backstage. Yeah, right. Like, it's like, why is the camera there? Why is this camera getting all this? Like, but UFC said it wasn't, so I'm going to take them at their word.

And it's clear bystander the way the dude after was like, dude, I got it all on video. So it definitely has that Worldstar feel of like, this was raw, raw video. And then the only other sports story that's crossing over that I want to talk about, obviously the Philadelphia 76ers is also a big deal, but I'm not going to jinx that by bringing that up. Pat yourself on the back, Jack. Yeah, Sixers fans.

But they need to win two more games to get the three seed. But unfortunately, speaking of other podcasts, the Bill Simmons podcast officially jinxed them. Simmons was like, yeah, and they're shooing for the three seed, and I'm going to put money on them to make it to the Eastern Conference Finals. And literally every team that he puts money on. Oh, it's a death kiss? Yeah, it's a kiss of death.

It's the Madden cover? Yeah, it's basically the Madden cover of the podcast. You don't want that co-sign. And they're also assuming that the Sixers are going to get the three seed. So the Cavs just need to beat the Knicks once, but the Sixers need to beat Atlanta, who's been coming on lately, and the Bucs. So the Sixers need to win two games. The Cavs need to win one.

Well, you sound like a pretty relaxed fan, so I think everything will go well. No, I'm also like this is how I deal with rooting for teams my dad works for is I am eternally and aggressively pessimistic until something good happens. Just trust the process. Trust the process. The other story crossing over that I wanted to talk about is Otani. Shohei. Fucking wild story.

For the first time since Babe Ruth, somebody is both pitching and hitting and crushing it. He hit home runs in three straight games over the weekend and then threw seven innings of a perfect game. Yeah. And actually, I wanted to give you guys a glimpse of Mike and the Mad Dog. What the fuck is that? It's just a sports radio talk show. If you listen to Desus and Mero, you've heard his impression. First time, long time.

Mike, yeah. Oh, that guy? Yeah. He's always like, I'm going to get Mal Beck from the school learners. Yeah, exactly long time. Yeah. Oh, that guy? Yeah. He's always like, I'm going to get Mal Beck from the school of letters. Yeah, exactly. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

So he's just like this famous sports talk radio guy who, you know, he came on the Bill Simmons podcast at the end. His contract was up, so he was able to come on the Simmons podcast for a couple episodes and was just this like, I don't know man so confident in his takes and then the next week would just equally confidently explain why he

was wrong but why he was secretly right the whole time, so anyways but he totally gets Otani right here, let's listen to his take Hollywood and Nibinia, the question is is he going to embarrass somebody? Is he going to be as bad as everyone says he's been? This is a guy who people were talking about being the greatest player in baseball.

They have the best player in baseball on that team. They brought a guy in, and they were talking this guy up like crazy, and he hasn't produced anything yet. The Yankees are lucky they didn't get him. And I tell you, the Angels are impossible. Even if they wanted to send him down to the minor leagues, how do you send him down to the minor leagues? It would look terrible.

He's Babe Ruth. You can't do that. You can't do it. And you're going to have all the cameramen following him down to some minor league little town? So they almost had to put him on the team, for crying out loud. He might not be Babe Ruth. That's the thing. He doesn't even seem like he's a little bit of Babe Ruth.

And Oriental is going to be better than Babe Ruth? No. Get the fuck out of here, bro. So I wanted to play that for a couple reasons. Obviously because it's fun to laugh at people who are incredibly wrong. And they're talking about this because he had a bad spring training. But here's the thing that people don't understand. Japanese players culturally do not give a fuck about spring training. Yeah, why would you?

Because they're like, I already have a roster spot. I don't need to prove myself. Let me just dial in some smaller shit. I'm not here to show out. The attitude of most players is like, gotta let them know. Get high in spring training to get the people excited a little bit. Ichiro was never really that great in spring training. You know what I mean?

And in the beginning, people were like, oh, this guy's going to be trash. Yeah. A cut to. He's still one of the greatest hitters of all time. So I think with Otani, they massively underestimated the fact that he was, I think, carrying an injury a little bit during spring training. And also his mentality wasn't such of like, let me show the fuck out because I'm Shohei and I'm going to show y'all how I do it for show.

And he did it. And look how he's doing now. They're having to eat their words. The Angels are 8-3. He, like I said, hit three home runs in three straight games and almost pitched a perfect game. He's pitched amazingly in both of his starts. And I also just wanted to bring this up because it highlights

one of my favorite things on Twitter right now is at Old Takes Exposed. Do you know this guy? Freezing Cold Takes. He just retweets old takes exposed. Do you know this guy? No. Freezing cold takes. He just retweets old takes of people. Oh, shit. I'm telling you, Jesus Romero need a late night show on NBC or CBS or ABC. And this dude needs his own cable channel, just his own cable news channel. That is all him just showing people be completely fucking wrong, because that is the thing that we never get to see when we watch cable news. We never get to see like, you know, these people who are like confidently talking about what's happened in the stock market.

It's just completely wrong, like all the time. Like Larry Kudlow, who is our current. Exactly. Yeah, I had some takes on the 2016 election that did not age well. No, they come back on my Facebook things, you remember? Oh, right. A year ago. A year ago, I was on the Clinton campaign very confidently thinking that we were going to win.

I already bought bottles of champagne, literally, for when it was called. Did the Leon let, huh? Yeah, it did not age well. Ran into the Edson with the football up in the air. You didn't see Don Beebe coming up behind you going, get that shit out of here, bro. Yeah. And then he did it again and dropped the ball

before the end zone. Anyways. Deep ass early 90s Super Bowl cuts for y'all. Bridget, it's been wonderful having you here. Not just on this show,

but in the office. Yeah. Thank you. I love to come out to L.A. more often. Y'all are rays of L.A. sunshine. Thank you so much. Hey, appreciate that.

Rays of sunshine. Yeah, rays of sunshine. Thank you. Bridget, where can people find you, follow you? I am on Twitter at Bridget Marie. That's B-R-I-D-G-E-T-M-A-R-I-E. I am on Instagram at Bridget Marie in D.C. and you can hear me in your earbuds at Stuff I've Never Told

You every Wednesday and Friday if you want that feminist flavor. It's a wonderful podcast. Right on this network. Miles. It's strong. Such a strong on this network. Miles. It's strong. Such a strong. The brand is strong. I mean, the brand is getting stronger. But, you know, we haven't quite reached the, you know, bodega high levels.

But, you know, we will get there. That's our North Star. Yes, guys, me, before I tell you where you can find me on social media, I want to let people know that I was actually on this podcast called New Player Has Joined, which is a very dope video games podcast. And I got to talk about one of my favorite video games of all time guitar hero. Uh,

so please check that out. I had a really wonderful time and look guys, if you like hearing my dumb voice, then just go and listen to that. That is a new player has joined podcast. Check that out. Now, if you're looking for social media,

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Oh. Okay. Can you tell us a little bit about the vibe before we go into it? So I picked this song because people think of Yoko Ono, her music is very aggressive and hard to listen to. And some of it is, but she also has very sweet, very pretty music. So I chose this specifically so people could hear that side of her. Because most people just think of her like screaming. Yeah, and she does that. And she also shreds.

Like, I love her screams. Yeah. So here we go. We're going to ride out on that, and we'll be back tomorrow with more podcasts. Talk to you guys then. Oh, oh, evening skyline. Oh, oh, helicopter. Oh, oh, firecrackers.

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