The Daily Zeitgeist - Aunty Fa, The...Help? 6.8.20

Episode Date: June 8, 2020

In episode 646, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Nerdificent co-host Ify Nwadiwe to discuss the fear of Antifa in this country, The Help, Space Force, and more!FOOTNOTES: Tiny Town In Washing...ton Gets Ramboed Up, Traps Family Over False Antifa Scare Viola Davis on What ā€˜The Helpā€™ Got Wrong and How She Proves Herself Donation Resources WATCH: Jungle - House in LA Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:20 officially off the top fuck the Koch brothers, fuck Fox News, fuck Rush Lim brothers, fuck Fox News, fuck Rush Limbaugh, and fuck Buck Sexton. It's Monday, June 8, 2020. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Love, love my poo. You ate and liked my poo.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Now racism's through. And liked my poo. Now racism's through. Because you ate my shit. That is courtesy of the help, the movie that I watched on Netflix. And now you see the Matrix, huh? Now I see the Matrix. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!
Starting point is 00:03:12 Miles Gray, a.k.a. where are these other ice cream companies at? Because I see Ben and Jerry's saying it with their chest. We must dismantle white supremacy. Shout out to Ben and Jerry. You know, even though you're in kind of a weird state in Vermont. But you're doing, looks like you're doing the Lord's work by saying the hard bit by saying white supremacy, not just we stand with black communities. You say, you know, we're actively taking a role in dismantling white supremacy. Thank you for saying that, because that's the kind of talk that needs to be more common. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the very faces on Mount Zitemore.
Starting point is 00:03:46 He is the hilarious, the talented, the it's been too long, iffy, waddy way. Nowadays, everybody want to talk like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips. Just punch your barish. Motherfuckers act like they forgot about iffy. How y'all doing? We back. Like they forgot about waddy way. See y'all on the Reddit.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Making the Mount Rushmore memes. If you don't put my face on it, you ain't a real fan. You ain't a real fan. That's true. Shout out to the Zeit Gang that stops by the Twitch. Shout out to Timeless Coffee from the Zeit Gang who dropped some coffee for your boy. It's time. Wow.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Yeah, yeah. They hooked it up with the Coffee Zeit Gang and they always say something cool. they leave a cool note uh usually something what's timeless coffee it's an open local yeah they they first hit me up when we last had our conversation about coffee and i said i was uh i was gonna get the the the grinder and all that stuff and i've since then oh right since then i've fully uh upgraded uh miles and jack no because i straight up tried to do a pour over literally as soon as we started recording i was like oh yeah this is a five minute process uh i'm sorry it was a flex it was a flex he was like okay now that i have you both here uh i'm gonna go do a very slow The slowest way to make coffee Hey do you have that kettle
Starting point is 00:05:06 Oh yeah I got the gooseneck What's that called Gooseneck kettle Oh gooseneck kettle yeah Cause I just have like a big awkward one And whenever I watch like precision barista videos I'm like I can't get it Yeah the gooseneck you need it for them swirls
Starting point is 00:05:20 Cause you wanna work your way inward outward And also I got the scale too So it's like I'm cooking yay I put the scale put the chemics i got the chemics put the chemics on the scale i got yeah yeah and then you know going that going that uh that order you don't even need to tear because you know how much the chemics way you just quick well i got this dope one that if you have it already whatever you have on the um scale when you turn it on, it automatically tears it. So I just pop the Chemex on, start it, and it's at zero. And then I use the Intelligentsia app where it does the ratio for me because I don't want to do all that.
Starting point is 00:05:55 And it has the timer within the app. Oh, yeah. See, I need something like this to fully get my mind off of the current app. Oh, yeah. I feel like I could go into a i already have i have so many scales uh for other things uh but i just need that goose neck i got the chemex and i think i guess i maybe i'll go to hand grinding i want to like from all zeitgang there was a huge debate about it and for a lot of people like it's really the process aspect that
Starting point is 00:06:23 makes it more satisfying not that like objectively or not whatever coffee's i can't come from oh yeah well they because they the other theory is that it actually is better because uh the like electronic grinders like burn the things because they're moving so fast so they like it's like they cauterize the cut in the coffee whereas the hand ground like you get the oils without having the cauterization. Yeah, yeah. This type of combo is what made me leave the blade grinder behind, and now I have a burr grinder. So now it's cut right, and it has an adjuster for the type of grind that I want. So sometimes I'll mix it up, do a French press.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Sometimes I'll mix it up, pour over. And now I have some espresso beans. And so I'm going to do the super espresso. And I have the percolator, the French joint, the little metal one. It's called something else, but you know which one I'm talking about. The Italian one, I mean, not the French one. So you got that burr grinder. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:23 I see you, Gucci Mane. I'm unstoppable. What is a burr? Is a burr grinder, like, does it? not the french one uh so you got that you got that bird grinder so so i'm gonna see gucci main unstoppable what is a bird is a bird grinder like does it uses flat blades so it you get a more even grind across because the blades it's random and so you won't get and you you can really do you really can tell the difference almost immediately because when i use the blade grinder you'll see some like bean chunks but with the bird grinder they're all just ground like i there there's no leftover you know it's definitely the difference between using a grinder and your friend picking out nugs and every time i'm like i got a grinder man i'm trying to get the most of this yeah trust me bro you're wasting money yeah you got all those crystals now that's not in the point oh can you just rub those into your gums yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:08:07 yeah after uh after i'm done just do whatever you want man boof it and try anything yeah boof it's a new day uh all right if you were gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment uh first we're gonna tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about the Antifa panic that is sweeping the nation, just the overall white supremacy of the way this is all being covered, the way that violence, when it's done by the right and white supremacists, just isn't seen as big a story as it is when it's done by anybody else we're going to talk about the help which i watched because i was confused as fuck about why that was it was number six when i looked on the netflix top 10 apparently it was number one for a bunch of the week it was the
Starting point is 00:08:59 number one piece of content on netflix and i was like i remember that movie sucking terribly like being a terrible movie how did that happen so uh i have some theories on that miles you watched space force or started watching first two episodes in the middle of episode three now yep so we'll talk about that uh we'll talk about you know just some proactive things that people can do uh all of that plenty more but first if he uh we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history uh that is revealing about who you are this is gonna be the wildest search history history answer that i've ever had on the show just draw for it i'm gonna let you know i'm glad everyone's sitting down because this is the wildest shit that i've saw in my life and i had to search and see what what this was all about
Starting point is 00:09:50 until this day it's an open case if anyone has any more information let me know but there is a woman on tiktok twitter and instagram who goes by i am dung six uh And then I had to look up her website, iamdung.com. And she, just to put it frankly, rubs shit all over her face and body and says that it gives her a closer connection to God because it removes her ego. And I was so sure this had to be a bit, and then I wasn't actually looking at a human
Starting point is 00:10:25 covered in shit and it turns out there's no evidence no wink no links to any other site so I think I don't know I don't know if Miles
Starting point is 00:10:40 is looking at it Iamdunk.com I cannot believe yo i have to it's i she's got the she's got the face mask yeah i i don't know what it's about uh you know if anyone is listening sees this and recognizes that person please check in with. I don't know what's going on. Yeah, this, her read me, it says like, I am dutifully sworn pessimistic when I consume dung. It serves as a reminder how I love to demonstrate my affection, respect, and faithfulness to God and not what is expected from my audiences.
Starting point is 00:11:18 What you do is your business and your freedom. I shall take into consideration I will not be held liable or accountable for your actions. I don't know what. It's so. I think this is just the whole way i found her is my friend posted like a one an excerpt of her tiktok where she was like i'm so excited i just got from buffalo wild wings and i got the mango habanero and i'm so excited to see if you can taste the spiciness in feces and i was like, this has to be a bit. But then she had the website watermarked, and then I went and I was like, no!
Starting point is 00:11:49 I was like the Maxwell dude. Right. Wow. Not too long ago, I received a concerned welfare notice phone call courtesy by my college counselor. Oh, my God. It was the first sentence on her blog. See, this is where you're starting to see somebody struggling
Starting point is 00:12:05 and we have such easy access to like put content that's what i was thinking because like it's really it starts getting really disconcerting like she has a thing about the laws of the 12 commandments and it's like all on some like deed like i know more than god exactly that's when i was like oh where's this so yeah if i i and this is blowing up on tiktok and stuff i it must be because uh i did see an article about people doing it for blackout tuesday and i didn't even bother seeing what the blackout tuesday post was that the the headline was enough for me i was like goodness gracious oh boy so yeah that's that's that's my search history this raised a question uh in my mind your two girls one cup was a phenomenon uh years and years ago
Starting point is 00:12:53 what but i just love that sentence two girls one cup was a phenomenon people were i love that read of it for sure what what that was fake right that was real it was just scat porn and that's why that's what made it uh what made it hit so hard is because you it starts off where you think it's gonna be regular porn so you know you getting ready you start leaning back in your chair and they're like psych right they're eating poop it was real yeah but were they that was real poop i i believe that's what they said i mean because the it was like from a yes because you see scat company you see unless they have new technology because look uh look if i could i could use words but
Starting point is 00:13:39 i i remember seeing the video mic ain't no, ain't no way you can make that shit. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Literally. You see the production. You see the production. Yeah. The production of the props. This is a thing. I mean, this makes sense to me. I've been talking about all these different ways that our culture is lining up with Germany right before the rise of Hitler. And, you know, scat is a huge thing in Germany.
Starting point is 00:14:07 And Hitler was obsessed with scat so he was uh yeah yeah real into it and his biggest like the thing that he was most concerned about was his flatulence um that he was very very strange uh things that you find out when you hey do you scratch the surface there. Rather not hear about Hitler's, you know, habits of entertainment that he likes to get into. Yeah. If you would, it's something you think is underrated.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Oh man. I, you know, underrated. There's a, you know, I got to come through and, and,
Starting point is 00:14:39 and give, give, give left to the underrated. I've been fine. I think, gosh, there's so many the reason i say this is because i've been buying so many appliances uh during this quarantine and i gotta say you know it's been hyped up so some people were gonna be like are you sure and i'm like yeah it people i don't think people know it goes as hard
Starting point is 00:15:02 as it does air fryers i just uh got the air fryer attachment for my Instant Pot. And that thing goes, I wish someone really, really drove home how much of a staple that would become in my home. I got a little four-year-old. She likes to snack up on stuff. I air fried some crinkle cut fries. We're in the game. We're in the game. So who was on recently?
Starting point is 00:15:27 Another person was preaching the air fryer gospel, but they had just gotten it, so they weren't able to fully sell me on it. Oh, they just got it, but they weren't chefing like me. I said they just got it, but they weren't chefing like me. Oh, maybe it wasn't Zig? I know I've heard him talk talk air fryers before wait so what is the when what was the thing you made the first time and you said oh okay i made a korean fried chicken and so uh and i was like i was so uh so confused if it will work
Starting point is 00:16:00 because if you don't know what korean chicken, instead of using like, uh, a batter, you use a corn starch on it. That's how you get that crispiness. And I was like, without oil, I don't see how this is really going to pop off. But not only did it crisp up, not only when I made that sauce, that is by the way, one of the hardest difficult sauces because there's so much sugar and corn syrup in it it's ready for 30 seconds and then after that it's burnt so you gotta have it you gotta have the chicken ready to go and i thought i was gonna be smart and like while it was frying have it ready to go that thing was okay now you gotta you make the you make the the fried portion and then you then you make the sauce toss it in there and toss and when i say that thing was
Starting point is 00:16:45 hidden i was like oh kyo-chan who yeah yeah you know this is me uh yeah so i made that i made the crinkle cut fries in that joint i definitely uh fried up some some more chicken it i'm i'm running it through all of it and it's just it's solid. It just gives you that perfect crisp with, you know, to, to go off the box without the oil, but you get that nice crispiness that you're looking for and you don't have to use any oil.
Starting point is 00:17:13 You just throw it in there, mix it up, season it. I don't understand like physically, like the physics of how. Me either. I, I,
Starting point is 00:17:21 as I use it, I'm still trying. Cause you just hear air. All you hear is air. It sounds like a vacuum is on. But you open that shit up, and the shit is crispy. So, you know, science. Okay, so if we're going to get into it, air fryers use a circulation of hot air to cook food that would otherwise be submerged in oil.
Starting point is 00:17:39 The air fryer's cooking chamber radiates heat from a heating element near the food, thus cooking it more efficiently if fan is generally used to circulate hot air so it's just a hot air tornado oh okay huh um what is something you think is overrated oh man i think uh i think what's what's overrated right now is uh is is brands coming out and in support you know i feel like i feel like uh run that check you you a whole ass business i don't need a tweet i need a i need a donation receipt give me receipts show your works uh show your work as yeah yeah you know because we're getting a lot of stuff i think uh grant we were talking about this grand theft auto has gone offline for two hours and that stuff i like because it's like it's a disruption of someone's day enforcing them so that one you can you can get away with but also rockstar run that money you're getting almost a million dollars a day
Starting point is 00:18:34 from these kids running their parents to think about how much of the culture is infused in those games i know especially grand theft auto like my god oh yeah come on now so it's it's so that that's what it is it's like it is nice i'm not gonna lie it is nice seeing i think especially me who does so much stuff in the game community it is nice kind of seeing you know um people come to come together and and be like this is wrong but really there are people who need monetary support right now. And I've been donating like crazy. I've been seeing a lot of people donating like crazy.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Twitch is doing what Twitch does best. So many people are doing charity streams and making good money for these causes, which is dope. Dr. Disrespect is going to be donating all his earnings this month to charities. And it's been cool like like with me it's like if you have a platform and you are a quote-unquote influencer yeah you can do the lip service i think goes further but when you're a target a major corporation that accepts money money is going to do more for me than seeing you do a blank blackout tweet or a black on black text about how you stay with black people, especially when lots of these companies are now getting dragged by employees retweet and be like, oh, word? Oh, word?
Starting point is 00:19:55 Here are all my complaints that somehow made into that special file. But like, yeah, I think it's also because we're all i think because as people we're all trying to do what we can right like you have a platform you're trying to do what you can on your platform we have this show we're trying to do what we can on this show rather than like completely burying our heads in the sand because i think well either way i think our our morals as people wouldn't allow that to happen yeah um especially being black too like this is that was never gonna happen yeah but i think we what we want is to see everybody do as much as they can from what their position is. So if you're a company, guess what? You siphon money out of the consumer's pockets and a lot of black dollars are spent at your business. see something that seems requisite because if i'm taking the time to make every day trying to be honest about the news and have opinions that people can like that will resonate with people
Starting point is 00:20:49 then target needs to do their version which i would be like what's what's to say you can't give up a 30 of your profits right do nothing also because it's been proven uh see nike and when you do things like that the community supports you even more because they want that money that they're spending to go towards that so really that's why it's so weird to me where it's like look even if you wanted to be this like sociopathic weirdo you can do it just for the money that you're gonna make you know that's why i think people don't realize how easy it is it's a good. You get people going in your stores. So at least do it for that, you know?
Starting point is 00:21:28 Well, yeah. Well, because I think companies and entities are so used to cynically operating like that, of just being like, all right, box checked, did the black tile. But yeah, it can go a lot further. And you can communicate what those things are through the action. And I think that's seen by saying people aren't asking for you to stand with them in a post we're asking you to actually demonstrate that you understand what we're what all of this is is that we're calling out systemic racism and so now everybody if this if this campaign is working
Starting point is 00:22:01 take the moment to understand how that's operating in your world and then actively show us steps that you're saying like, oh, okay, I get what you're saying. Okay, I know how to do this. I can confront a coworker. I can lovingly speak to a parent and say, just so you know, a lot of the things you told me as a kid, it took a long time for me to actually realize a lot of those things are wrong. And it took me a while to even come past this. Those are the kinds of things that I think we want to see. So for a company that has billions of dollars, at least millions of dollars. Yeah. And it took me a while to even come past this. Those are the kinds of things that I think we want to see. And so for a company that has billions of dollars,
Starting point is 00:22:29 it's at least millions of dollars. Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like their reasoning, they probably wouldn't say this out loud, but their reasoning is the shareholders. That money is tied up to... You hear a lot of the corporate people blame Wall Street and the expectations of
Starting point is 00:22:48 wall street but that is like that there's a reckoning coming there too because the the way that wall street just kept flying uh during the pandemic when everybody was losing their jobs uh jim kramer the mad money guy uh who's that's as financially sophisticated as i get uh but he he made the point he said uh at the end of last week that the pandemic was one of the greatest wealth transfers in the history of our country. Yeah. And it's still the rich getting richer and the corporations and Wall Street insulating themselves so that they can't lose because they're writing their own rule books. And that shit is, there's something coming.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Well, that's what I'm saying. It's white supremacy and capitalism because the white supremacy, there's ways to figure that out. And then when you think about like, well, whenever people are like, well, we don't have the money to do that, or we don't have the money to do that, that's because then we have to continue to say, well, why not?
Starting point is 00:23:57 Oh, well, because we're beholden to shareholders who expect that. And look, the way these companies are traded, like we have to show a certain amount of financial health for people to want to buy our stock what the fuck does that mean you have wait but you i'm pretty sure i'm looking at your ledgers and you have like hundreds of millions of dollars just sitting there yeah yeah but that's then we have to keep going then we have to lay people off you know then you take less but i think that's the next step is like we're learning people are learning how to articulate how to stand up against police brutality and seeing like, oh, right. Now that like white people see like people that look like their aunts, uncles, grandparents, fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers, cousins get brutalized by police.
Starting point is 00:24:35 That piece is starting to come together too and be like, oh my, what the fuck is this? But then that financial question is the next part too, because a lot of the reasons why people don't have money is because other people do. And then we have to address the inequities in that system too. Like it's a big, we got a fucking mountain to climb baby. But that's what I'm saying. Get your fucking stretch up,
Starting point is 00:24:55 get your hands chalked and get those carabiners ready. Cause fucking, we got to keep like, we have to go to the fucking top of this thing to bring it down. Yeah. Yep. One step at a time, one day at a time. Ify, what is a myth?
Starting point is 00:25:09 What's something people think is true, you know, to be false? I think Miles is kind of hidden on that. I mean, there's this, you know, there's this kind of everyone's like, you know, police brutality is bad, this, that, and that. But when we hear defund the police everyone starts to slow up where it's like well we need the police and really we don't i think there's a really good infographic going around showing the history of the police showing this and i was just talking about this with someone earlier today when we just like when you think about car chases like like with all the technology and all the tracking that we have the systems we have in
Starting point is 00:25:45 place you know do we really need five ten police cars going at dangerous speeds through civilian roads to chase down one car when we have a helicopter that already costs so much to fly anyway that's up with them that can just follow and then have this person because cars need gas the cars don't run forever so if you if it would just take you to actually sit down and and i think a lot of the problems is it's it's almost this brute force tactic when it comes to policing and that's the problem and it's at its core for me there's never any planning these like it's never like okay what's the best most efficient way to go about this the safest way it's at its core for me. There's never any planning. There's like it's never like, OK, what's the best, most efficient way to go about this? The safest way. It's always like, OK, let's grab their gang armor up and let's run in there and just do whatever we want.
Starting point is 00:26:35 And then you like it's so interesting because a lot of people have been asking like, oh, you know, well well the funny thing is like all these white families they're like this is so hard to talk about with my kids and people asking me about uh what i'm telling naomi about this and i was like well to be honest naomi i'm not i'm letting her uh be uh just in her world of sesame street and abc mouse the reason being is because my kid's black. This is a wall she's going to walk into eventually. So if I can let her just to have this like free few years of not knowing and experience what racism is and then have that conversation when she inevitably comes to school and be like, hey, some kid called me nigger or some someone's being weird to me. I'll be like, oh, OK, Well, it's time to have this conversation.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Because it really is like it's something we deal with. And we're seeing live how cops operate, something that I'm sure me and Miles have known for a long time. One of my first lessons in this was when I was in Compton, this cop was chasing these dudes in my apartment complex and he runs by and they run after him and he ends up running down this cold this nearby it it's it's like a you know how some houses uh have property and then they're all the way they're they're deeper into the space but there's no through line like he ran down it and it was kind of closed off. And we just, we just hear like a bunch of gunshots. They, in so many shots, they shot their own canine.
Starting point is 00:28:12 They shot the canine and they plant, they, they, they it was wild to see what happened with our own eyes and then see what was reported. And what happened was they caught him down there and just started firing on him, killed him. And then they said that he shot the police dog and that's why they shot him. He had no gun on him. We saw.
Starting point is 00:28:36 And what made it worse was the family that lived in that inlet area, they were gone, but they let us come in their house and they shot so much they that there was bullets riddled all over their living room and they said luckily they were at church because if they were at home if they were watching tv they would have just been shot up and that's the same story man you know what i mean like it's it happens so much and the and the police are able to like you know obfuscate and try and just describe them murdering someone
Starting point is 00:29:07 as like man then he shot the dog and like we had no choice and that's because the people that they're that hold them to account are their own yeah we're like all right so what happened here so like what are we gonna what are we gonna say here so he probably shot the dog all right here yeah okay it really is slip and fall there's no and that's why we have no and that's why like these reforms are so important so like when people are like let's ban chokeholds i'm like hold the fuck up man that's again that should have happened decades ago we're past that and again the police have completely ceded their right to say that they're an entity worth funding uh in any meaningful way like again we have to like you're saying if the police especially for black men you'll never have i've never seen a cop say sir
Starting point is 00:29:50 can i help you not at all and if and if it was it was just a sneaky way to just see where i'm going where i'm coming right where you're going yeah oh you lost i'm like okay don't fucking concern troll me dick i know what the fuck i know where you're i know where this is going but like this is i think it's all about being able to shift our how we look at things right there's like even there's a like for example the police right siobhan thomas who is a writer tweeted out she writes our rick and morty said for my friends and followers arguing for reforms of the police instead of major defunding ask yourself this have the police ever actually helped you or anyone you know or is your idea of the police predominantly been formed by movies and television because yes there are people who've committed crimes unfortunately i've
Starting point is 00:30:34 had issues with in past relationships where like uh someone i was dating needed actual like law enforcement help and it just never came yeah just didn't and let's just talk about the fact that you know they want to pretend that you know we we use something someone brought up that was good is we often use unarmed unarmed black man unarmed but who cares if if they were armed how many times are we looking at these videos of armed white men who have murdered who have hurt people who are somehow still able to be brought in without being shot. How many times? We see it so many times, yet we have to point out that the black people who are being slain are unarmed as if that makes a difference. Because it's true that they have it,
Starting point is 00:31:17 there's just zero compassion. They see it as sport, they see it as a chance. It's almost as if they hear that this, if the suspect is black, they know they can go in guns blazing. It's the same. It's the same idea that made to, uh, an off-duty cop and his son drive down on a black man. Like it was hunting season. Like it really, it really shows. And so they do, they, I think you should should if we can make them go through so much before they can even grab a gun. You know that. And I don't want to hear any of this like, well, what about this, this, this and this? Someone just showed a survey. Only 48 cops were killed last year. And then half of those were accidents that happened on themselves. of those were accidents that happened on themselves so that means 20 something cops are actually at risk out of the hundreds of thousands of police so with those odds i think
Starting point is 00:32:12 you do you shouldn't have access to an m16 shouldn't have access and if you're this cavalier about calling in the national guard and other agencies then what the fuck do you need guns for if you're gonna if you're gonna call in over some peaceful protesters, you don't need guns. If you can't even- Because it's not what it's about. You know what I mean? It's just about saying, oh, well, we have people starting to band together across class and racial lines to actually identify a common thread and it's us. So we're going to have to put that down because we need our money. Oh, yeah. And we need to keep expanding our police force. mean especially like when you think about la the crime rate and new york i think crime rates been gone
Starting point is 00:32:48 down by 75 since 1992 why do we need more cops like what's i don't i don't even understand the logic path of that there's less crime more cops 75 less since 92 but that's not what they're telling themselves like we talked on that uh we talked earlier and on that behind the bastards about that david grossman guy who goes around training them to uh think that they are their lives are like eight times more in danger there's this thing that this like cop speak that you hear like i even hear people around me be like, well, I heard this from a cop. Cops love to act like they have this inside track
Starting point is 00:33:32 to some information, and it's always fucking bullshit. The people I know who are, I know two cops, they were shitty people in high school. Right. And I don't even fuck with them. I just remember when Facebook was cracking and that first couple years out of college, I'm like, oh shit, that dude's a cop. Okay, yep. Yeah, no, it's a well-known fact that people would join the police force with complexes and they plan to use them to lash out on citizens.
Starting point is 00:34:01 But they're not going to lash out on every citizen. They're going to lash out on black citizens who they feel can't climb whoever their target i mean it could just be women it's or latinos whatever yeah people of color in general you know uh yeah and and it's so obvious when two weeks ago we got to see the same quote-unquote protest but this time we got ars are strapped around people and we're not met with the same level we're not met there's two the the misinformation is so transparent and clear we have videos of police trucks dropping off bricks we have videos of people looting when you pay attention to the video they are not black yet you yet you have people playing this video, reporters playing this video and saying Black Lives Matter when they isn't a black life on camera. It's wild. It's like the fix is in, but it's not working. And now they're scrambling, which is why, which is why, you know, the CNNs and all this stuff, they're they're not going to make it through it either, because you just see how quickly they lean to whichever side they feel like they lean to lean to to make the
Starting point is 00:35:08 slant. It's just ridiculous. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. All right. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago, when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
Starting point is 00:35:38 President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer.
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Starting point is 00:39:09 And we're back. And yeah, Miles, you brought this story forward that I hadn't read, but I have read other stories like it that really underscore that it seems like we could be on the precipice of just all-out chaos like a yeah like virtual civil war we're on a knife's edge for sure yeah um and this story really you know um so what happened was there's a multi-racial family uh and including like a couple there was a 16 year old daughter daughter, the mother of the husband in this couple,
Starting point is 00:39:45 and they were in this town in, I believe, it's Forks, Washington. Yeah. So what is that? Is that where Twilight's from? Oh, I don't know. Anyway, not important. Might be where the green room
Starting point is 00:40:01 is from also, though. The Pacific Northwest is fucking scary. So they're in Washington, and this was happening in clallam county and they were they were these people were shopping for camping equipment they're going on a camping trip then suddenly when they come out of the store they were quote accosted by seven or eight carloads of people in the grocery store parking lot the people repeatedly asked if they were members of antifa and the way this outlet says an amorphous militant anti-fascist movement has become a bugaboo for some on the right the second part i did with i don't know but whatever uh and amorphous as well and then so then the family said they're just
Starting point is 00:40:36 there to camp and they were like trying to move their car around these people and go to the campsite and then they said a couple cars were following them and they believed these people were armed following them and when they got to the campsite uh these people basically they that were camping this family they heard gunshots and chainsaws and they're like okay we got to get the fuck out of here and they packed they put their camping ship back together tried to drive out and these people had basically blocked the road by chopping down the trees to block their car in, to box them in. And then these high school students came and got them out and moved the trees and helped escort them to the sheriff's office. But it's like, what the fuck? So this is what's happening.
Starting point is 00:41:18 People will see a multiracial family with children. And the conclusion is that's Antifa who's trying to kill us. And we need guns because Antifa is here in the form of this multiracial family. That's what the people's perception is. And when you look, the story goes further back to be like, why the fuck did these people, what in the world gave them the idea that Antifa was going to be there? So there was a guy in a town over who said, basically did a post that said, you know, it's going to go down here in Sequim, Washington. He said, you may want to show your face to make sure this is a peaceful demonstration
Starting point is 00:41:54 and declare all lives matter. And then complete, like that basically got the whole area of few towns all riled up off of this guy's Facebook post, this guy who owns a gun store. And then his next post were like these maya culpa videos where he was kind of being like, cause nothing happened. Like it was all bullshit. Um,
Starting point is 00:42:12 and he was saying that, that he had asked people to protect them from Antifa infiltrators based on quote Intel he had received. And then this is something he said in the video quote, I was told a protesters were here. I was told Antifa's here and gonna trash the town i had this all this intel and then basically then goes back and he said i need people this is the guy who started the first place that i need people to bring it down a notch including me i'm sorry i
Starting point is 00:42:34 got pretty jacked up about what's going on in our country right now that guy did have the wherewithal to be like whoa i know i got it's at least articulate i know it's so funny and i will you know as much as i hate to i will give credit for credits due because it's so hard nowadays to get people to admit fault but it really is like yeah this is the shit that gets people killed and i wish that there was someone near who who can say that where it's like bro this is this is getting people killed and i think we do need to, like, we need to crack down on people doing that, that stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Like we need to, you know, like the same way you got Trump saying when people looting, shooting, like if we have cool, we know people are going to be so afraid to move on Trump. But at the very least, when people are posting videos,
Starting point is 00:43:21 we need to be banning these accounts. We need, we need law enforcement. I mean, not like they're going to ever do shit for us, but we need to be banning these accounts. We need law enforcement. I mean, not like they're going to ever do shit for us, but we need some type of someone to step in and do something. And that's what's so funny is when people are afraid of law enforcement and they're like, well, who's going to take care of this, that, and the other? Where's law enforcement when a woman is sexually assaulted? Where's law enforcement in these cases? Where's law enforcement when people are trying to report stalkers and online bullying, which leads to that same person
Starting point is 00:43:55 murdering them? They're never acting on it. So that's why it's like, they're not out here trying to put their life at risk. They're out here trying to have a license to kill, which is why we need to dismantle police bill of rights. We need to get rid of that. If you kill someone, if like, how the hell is it that if a doctor kills you or injures you trying to save your life, we can sue the shit out of them.
Starting point is 00:44:20 But when someone is actively making an attempt on their life off of a bad judgment call they get to walk free that on paper just the map don't make sense yeah that's why i think more people can figure that out and i think this story also underlines just how how important it is for people who have these kinds of like the capabilities to take life that they can actually see like what is actually going on because these people are just hopped up on a narrative of like fox news and just saying antifa is going to hear to run our town out and that's it and everyone's prescribed that's the same thinking everyone's on and because everyone's looking at it one way that's why black people are
Starting point is 00:45:02 treated as a monolith where all black people are a threat. And it's the same, the police are responding in the same way. That's why the police system, the system of policing as it is now does not work. And that's why a lot of people are like, we need more social workers. You know, a social worker can look at a black or brown kid in like in an inner city area and say, I understand why this kid is frustrated. I understand why they're actually in the streets because there's so little opportunity here that this is just the logical next step for them trying to survive and then but the police come and go this kid's a fucking oh shit they're trying to fucking get me ah what the fuck you know what i mean the we have to begin seeing things a
Starting point is 00:45:41 little bit more clearly too because it just we're jumping to conclusions all like left and right um and yeah just to the point about facebook being used to like facebook has been we've talked before on on this show about facebook being used to cause genocide against uh minority groups in other countries. And more and more, as our institutions break down, that is what's to separate us from those countries. We don't have the military leadership now. The commander-in-chief is not going to stop it. In fact, he's going to encourage it. Like, what is, Facebook is not going to stop it. And it's a very, very dangerous tool that, you know, like you said,
Starting point is 00:46:34 I really feel like the country's on a knife's edge right now. Yeah, I mean, that was just an image of someone, like, I think the scarier ones aren't even the images coming from these major towns the scarier ones to me are these images in the small town where you have these smaller group of protesters just trying to show solidarity there's one of someone just walking down like a neighborhood and there was just a group of these you know army cosplayers with army little guns right there and then as you walk down and then you see the cops sitting there fine it was like you ain't gonna go and tell these people like hey we're here we don't need you to have your guns like that's the stuff where i'm like second amendment man second amendment man it's like i
Starting point is 00:47:12 don't it's like no and it's so funny yeah they say in second amendment national guard coming in and they quiet as hell and it really just there's that meme yeah of like the shiba dog that yeah on the internet brolic is last week had the fucking tack vest on AR-15. It's like, tell me I'm on lockdown. And then like the next one, little puppy with the MAGA hat. It's like they're clowns to me now. They're like truly, truly, truly clowns to me because you really do see all that like chest puffing of like, you can't tell us to stay inside. And then within a week, like not even even it ain't even been that long within a week
Starting point is 00:47:46 walking around telling people talking about some well you should obey curfew should listen to the oppressive military police what the fuck you talking about weren't you just outside that's because freedom the freedom is not that word is not used in the same way for those people what it is and what's so wild
Starting point is 00:48:02 to me is it's so very clear that it is a group of people that believe oh laws don't apply rule these rules and laws aren't for me they're for they're for them they're they're for for the black people they're for the people of color but for me a white person these laws aren't for me i can do what i want this is my country i have freedom oh that's for them and really and it's and and at that point when you can't even catch yourself and really i want to be like oh it really is like these dorks don't even know what they're saying you know it's just like this tweet i saw on facebook post where someone was like um all jobs matter to someone's
Starting point is 00:48:41 blue life pattern point and they're like well all jobs aren't under attack right now so why would you and it's like and it's like y'all are so y'all just really are that dense and yeah and it is and it comes from a thing that i brought up before where it's like a lot of this inherent racism is also coming from a place of selfishness you just refuse to see outside of yourself you're seeing what's affecting you because you can't feel the effects of racism. It just doesn't exist to you. Because yet a lot of these people, hella Christian, but they need to be able to see and feel the racism in order to believe it's there. And it's not until it's someone they know, it's not until it's someone they see, it's not until someone close to them gets hurt that they get to see that side that side it's the same way when a lot of uh a lot of women were like this is how old i was when i first was sexually assaulted or this is
Starting point is 00:49:30 how old i was when i first was sexually harassed you had a lot of dudes being like oh this is serious then even though it's some shit that they've been talking about all the time you know it's it's the lack of of empathy that is so apparent i think right now that is kind of the most disheartening thing is like it's like some of y'all you because there's so many times you just watch a twitter conversation play out and then someone's like oh i get it it's like it's just because you refuse to have empathy you you just you saw another people and you had to make up excuses and also a lot of these people are inherently afraid of conflict but when you're a person of color and you have to make up excuses. And also a lot of these people are inherently afraid of conflict, but when you're a person of color and you were born, your life is conflict. That's,
Starting point is 00:50:10 that's all, you know, but when you, when you, when you have, you have a privilege of avoiding conflict, you don't want racism to be real. You don't want to address these things. You don't want to live in this world where things are bad for some people. You don't want to live in the existence that maybe you have it better than others because you have the privilege of not knowing conflict. Whereas as soon as you walk about this earth as a person of color, you are in conflict. As soon as I walk in a room and based on the people, based on the way the people in the room are looking at me, I know whether I'm wanted there or not. Conflict. If I go into a store, if I go into a restaurant, someone looks at me, my know whether I'm wanted there or not. Conflict. If I go into a store, if I go into a restaurant, someone looks at me, my service based on how I look is there. Conflict. If I want
Starting point is 00:50:51 a loan, I walk into a bank just based on how I dress. Conflict. The fact that I got to cut my hair if I want to get a certain job. Conflict. All my life is conflict. I can't do shit without having to worry about how I'm perceived by other people that's conflict but if you go about your life where you never have to think that and then for once you have to worry about that oh yeah you gonna avoid that shit like the plague you gonna avoid that shit like covet 19 if you're not a dumbass well but they are so unfortunately yeah just kind of going back to the original story about the truly terrifying right-wing people, eight cars full and then cutting down trees to trap the people in, which is something I saw with people in Maine with something around COVID-19
Starting point is 00:51:40 and right-wing people trapping people in by cutting down trees. Anyways, there just seems to be a concerted thing happening with right-wing people doing violence, the backlash to the uprising being horrifyingly violent from the police, and the mainstream media just actively ignoring it. I was watching the local news uh newport beach protest like one of those small ones 50 people a dude drove through a crowd of protesters trying to hit them and it was it was not an accident but they pulled a toddler out of the way at the very last second it was like it's on video of this dude and then they, oh, he must have been drunk or an accident. And then he was like, no, I was trying to kill them because they're, you know, challenging my white supremacy, essentially.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Just a 50 something, you know, white dude and a mini Cooper. There's there's that video of you were talking about how high school students had to come in and like help that family out those high school students like trying to put up you know black lives matter signs in maryland and that guy like looks like he's like in his 50s or 60s and like wearing that like midlife crisis biking gear oh just attacking them yeah just attacking them with his bicycle and being like give me give me the tape uh like the literal the literal tape they were taping things up with and like they're children and he's he's like going after that it's it's truly terrifying and people like be it seems like they are actively weaponizing the white supremacy of the mainstream media because they
Starting point is 00:53:26 know that the mainstream media doesn't give a fuck when they commit crimes or at least it's not a it's not a viral sensation on the mainstream media so we need like social media to to publicize it yeah it's true and like i think even you know the other thing i'm seeing too is i saw a video of this woman i think in newport or huntington beach in orange county she was tearing down a george floyd memorial because she said this was this was a setup by george soros and antifa and that's straight up q anon talk yeah yeah and that's the other thing i'm seeing is like this some of these people they have looks in their eyes that isn't just like i'm a nasty racist there are i i was actually kind of my breath was taken because i've seen plenty of racist white women mixtapes before but this this was particularly like she she really looked she believed that like antifa and
Starting point is 00:54:28 george soros are trying to take her life and her business and that these are all distractions and like people she got doxxed and i saw like her instagram page she's like ask me i was like i'm hashtag unemployed because of the hashtag plandemic and all this other stuff. And you're like, I see. There's a whole other way that people, again, such a brilliant way to avoid the actual conversation about capitalism and white supremacy. Just go to QAnon, and the reason you don't have your job is because George Soros and Antifa planned the pandemic for you to lose your job, and that's why you're out of money.
Starting point is 00:55:01 The deadliest civil war in human history, I believe, is a Chinese civil war fought when a cult rose up and thought, like, was supporting somebody who claimed he was, like, Jesus' brother. And, like, there's really, like, some cult vibes going on in this country right now. It's scary. And I think that's the thing is...
Starting point is 00:55:21 Human is real. We say it, like, half flippantly that white supremacy is a death cult but we're seeing it you know what i mean like there are some people who look so scared by seeing even like other white people agree that black lives matter that they are starting to break because they're like it didn't used to be like that and you know what i'm glad because it seems like a lot more white people felt it was okay to say that they're not racist i don't know why that was a tough thing but hey it's actually it's the it's the coolest take you could have right now just fuck racism yeah yeah uh all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back this summer the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months.
Starting point is 00:56:12 These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer.
Starting point is 00:56:51 This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, fam. I'm Simone Boyce. I'm Danielle Robay. And we're the hosts of The Bright Side, the daily podcast from Hello Sunshine that is guaranteed to light up your day. Every weekday, we bring you conversations with the culture makers who inspire us. Like a recent episode with Latin Grammy winner, podcast host, and TV personality Chy's about making a name for herself as the eldest daughter of beloved singer Jenny Rivera. I'm not afraid. And I think that that's why I've been able
Starting point is 00:57:31 to kind of do my own thing and not necessarily stay in my mom's shadow because I'm not afraid of stepping out of my comfort zone and shaking things up a little bit because that's the only way I feel that you're going to make history. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now.
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Starting point is 00:58:59 One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that?
Starting point is 00:59:13 You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And I watched The Help because it's trending in the Netflix top 10. Oh my God. People were tweeting. They were like, get the fucking help out of the Netflix top 10.
Starting point is 01:00:04 What are y'all doing? So it just hit Netflix a couple weeks ago. were people were tweeting they were like get the fucking help out of the netflix top 10 what are y'all doing so it just it just hit netflix a couple weeks ago so that's partially like why it was on people's minds but also i mean it is it was the number one movie for a couple days like at the peak of the george floyd protests like that movies are never the number one thing on netflix but the help was the number one thing and so i watched it i i saw right away i had seen it before when it first came out and i saw it before when i said it was one of the best movies i'd ever seen uh it's a masterpiece uh no it really gets you thinking yeah so i saw it back when it came out i remember like having a lot of these thoughts but in this context like you see right away
Starting point is 01:00:54 why this movie's so popular at the moment it's entirely shot through with like the thesis that racism is something that bad people actively go out of their way to do. And there are the good white people and the bad white people. And Emma Stone is the white savior who comes and gives the black maids the courage they need to tell their story. and, but there's like,
Starting point is 01:01:21 just racism is so easy to deal with. It's just right there. And it's like just racism is so easy to deal with it's just right there and it's like on the surface just being mean and like there's nothing you you just have to like kind of punk this girl who's like a mean overt racist and everything is like good snap out of it again yeah basically i think i get it man it's if you're a person who's experiencing some level of white guilt uh and don't want to go too deep the help will do that as no because look it's told again it's it's from the perspective of white people so great as the viewer like okay good i know yeah i'm in the driver's seat as a narrator here and it's about
Starting point is 01:02:03 oh and look we're doing all right. And I get that. I'm sure that feels good to a certain extent. But it's just even funny when you even think about it. Just the title already conveys the perspective of this entire film. Yeah. It's supposed to be tongue in cheek. But if it was supposed to be tongue in cheek, it should have been told from the perspective of the, quote, help. Movies don't need narrators like novels need narrators they need uh the person from who who's there observing the story
Starting point is 01:02:33 movies don't unless it's a movie about a non-white person then white audiences just need a white person to like experience the story and like be there to observe it it's it's wild the the movie's movie's a fucking mess also just like from a movie perspective like the you know acting the writing is really bad and they're good actors involved in it it's like a good cast but it's just a kind of a fucking mess and it really is like one of those things where you're like, oh, racism is like movie steroids. It's like catnip for white Americans, this idea of a white savior coming in and helping the black community.
Starting point is 01:03:19 And it also others the racist South, like the racist past. It's like everybody's smoking but they like comment on that people are playing bridge and like there so there's like a lot of like anachronistic stuff thrown in to be like this is back then see we've come a long way uh and yeah it's just one a couple bad ladies and like some racist like background like cops and bus drivers and everybody else like if you just treat the black people around you like human beings then you are like you've solved the problem that's basically it and also it's mostly it's mostly your point right feeding people poop go ahead all of these things help further the narrative of we've solved the problem yes they never end with and it
Starting point is 01:04:13 continues to this day yeah yeah you know like that's what all those feel good movies that like black people like man fuck that's that's for white people to feel good about shit it's not that's not real because at the end it like like it resolves like even the conflicts with characters who you're like oh that person's racist you're like oh great not racist anymore oh i can breathe back to the world well yeah i think it that's kind of the biggest um issue with these movies is a lot of these racism movies make make racism a peer-to-peer issue and never an overarching, structural, systematic problem. And it seems like if you can convert one racist, then all of a sudden all the races are good. There it is.
Starting point is 01:04:56 And it's like, no, trust me, I've converted a lot of races in my life. Right. And it's bigger than that and and i think um even like when you have these like biopics of like martin luther king and mlk there's this feeling that like they beat it at the end you know it's a very weird thing even if it even though the movie ends in their assassination you know uh and that's i think that's the problem is like in media it's hard to it's hard to capture that and i think the closest we've gotten to capture it with even with some of its problems is black klansmen because it ends and it has that kind of like hokey oh we did
Starting point is 01:05:42 it and then it immediately shows you footage from not too long ago of charleston and what went down so we did this period piece that that takes place in time and you're like and it has ends in a feel-good way and then spike because he spike reminds you oh no this is still going on by the way all this shit we were fighting and it's and it's almost done beautifully because all the things they were saying and all the talking points throughout the movie are even shown within the clips that's like yeah no this is years ago and they're still talking like this and still getting away with it right well that's the genius of a lot of the media too is like it's meant to sort of extinguish the flames of outrage that burn within us sometimes yeah you know because if the help
Starting point is 01:06:23 ended with you being like yeah and like uh unfortunately like her family couldn't get on there like if it if it ended with some real sober take people would walk out of that movie and be like oh my god that's really fucked up yeah right you know but movies aren't meant to make people uncomfortable so it would rather than be like and it was all solved even though even though martin luther king was assassinated yeah you walk out of that movie being like maybe i do have a dream it's like i don't know if you really saw what the fuck happened yeah this guy was going up against it and got snuffed out yeah speaking of spike lee the when do the right thing came out the end when uh mookie throws the trash can through the window
Starting point is 01:07:02 a lot of critics were like, why would he do that? Like, that doesn't make any sense. He didn't need to do that. And Spike Lee was like, this is representative of something that is coming. There is an anger. And people were like, I think it's overrated. And then the LA riots happened like a month later. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:24 And it was like, yeah. That's why I was even though you know we are so burnt out of reboots a do the right thing reboot would hit right now uh and i even got the title i call it to the right thing uh you know but just go re-watch that movie it's a fucking master i know but i mean he's out here trying to remake movies anyway so yeah right so did helm remake that that would be that would i'd love to see that because yeah it is it's uh it's it's bubbling up and something's bubbling and it's so funny because it's bubbling i as someone who was at a protest as someone who was, you know, there, it seems like,
Starting point is 01:08:07 you know, we're getting all like worked up, but in the end it's like, no, it's, it's, it's definitely the other side trying to push it. They're trying to get there.
Starting point is 01:08:15 They're trying to garner. And that's the experience of being, you know, black. And that's why I tend to be a non confrontational a lot because like my dad always growing up, he was like, don't get angry. Don't get angry. Don't get angry. Cause you know, you have this sense of justice, especially if you grew up as a nerd, you have this like undue sense of justice. You think that, you know, you, you almost buy into the propaganda that, you know, bad people will be taken care of.
Starting point is 01:08:39 And really that's not the real world. And so, um, I would just get angry. My dad's like, don't get angry because people will make you angry and use it against you. People will make you angry. And that's what you're seeing right now is the reason these cops are trying to hit us and all this is because they know if something happens where if we attack these cops, if we lash out, they're going to use it against us to try and justify it, which is why they these i'm i'm just going to go out and say it it's not tinfoil hat it's the setup they they had actors in the protests who were starting shit and you have people who were on the ground at these protests who were like oh yeah we weren't there they literally planted a cop car in la they
Starting point is 01:09:18 planted it i don't give a fuck this is not a conspiracy theory everyone who was there you can't you can't try and plant something in Hollywood. We know set decoration. We know, you know. So when you have this, like, old-ass cop car there with spray paint on it and A-cab. And then, unfortunately, this is still LA. So you know people are using it for a goddamn photo shoot. So then when those pictures come out, it looks like they did it.
Starting point is 01:09:43 You know? But, like, it was set there, you know, and it's and it's pathetic. And that's that's that's why it's like you resist the urge of trying to get that perfect shot for the gram, because these are all, those dumbass kids were going to kick in the windows and try and snatch shit. They were kicking in windows and snatching shit at cool kids before this. You didn't think they were going to use this opportunity to loot those stores? Get out of here. And I remember the homie had the video out of his window. He lived on Fairfax.
Starting point is 01:10:22 And everybody I saw running with a box was white. I saw not a single black person i'm sure there was some because when opportunity strikes you still that way i mean i think when we get bogged down and trying to even like parse through like who the good looters are the bad looters are we've completely taken the conversation away from what we're like look the looting is gonna happen i'm sorry yeah but there's too many broke people and people are fed a diet of images that say you need to own this this and this to be happy or to look good yeah and guess what if you don't have any money and a fucking 700 box logo supreme hoodie is out of your reach you're damn right you're gonna fucking break in there because society told
Starting point is 01:10:58 you you're not shit if you don't own that stuff so guess what they're taking from me well now i'm taking from them bet and that's how it works And so that's why like the conversation always has to come back to like, and this is the tool. Another tool of like this whole white supremacy toolbook is like, we have to keep talking about this issue. And it's so clear. And like you're saying, like, especially for black people, like the whole thing is set up for to provoke us to prove that we are the animalistic depiction that they have painted of us. That's all. They just need that confirmation bias fulfilled. So everything's about provocation. And whether if it's me at a private high school and the, and the Dean taking me out of class to tell me my haircuts too weird or some
Starting point is 01:11:40 shit like that, I'm trying to get, it's all to fucking get you to act a certain way and act out and then be like, you see, and that's what I gotta do. That's what I gotta suspend them.
Starting point is 01:11:49 It's all like, and it's all this game. And I think that's what, hopefully people can see that because yeah, it's a lot of stuff out there that's just trying to further people's confirmation biases
Starting point is 01:11:58 about what outrage looks like, what a person of color looks like, what people look like when they're mad, what mad people even look like when they're mad what mad people even look like they're trying a lot but it's it's clear like in the most peaceful things i've seen it's really heartening to see all these allies come out here or even in like boise idaho all the all these like why i don't expect that, but wow. Okay. Something's happened. Something's going on.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Yeah. But that's the thing. I think we're still trying to figure out, okay, there's some, what's, what's going to be the best way to, to move this forward.
Starting point is 01:12:32 And that's why on the show last week, we were kind of being like these movements, like, you know, the eight can't wait stuff. That's too incremental for right now. I think these were things people have been asking for already for decades that now it looks like we have enough public momentum that we can solve problems rather than
Starting point is 01:12:49 doing these sort of Band-Aid fixes that help skirt the real issues, which are talking about real police brutality and white supremacy within that. Straight up. Miles, is Space Force good? Yeah, and that's it. No, okay, so Space Force, yeah yeah pivot to space force really quick so i watched space force the greg daniels uh steve carell vehicle for space uh and i didn't i didn't mind it there was a lot of people hated it look i i told people from the beginning i'm in i'm in an airplane right now everything that is on my screen i like yeah i'm in an airplane right now everything that is on my screen i like because i'm in an airplane yeah so even this i was like when tani came on i said look at her edges are fucking oh god they have they took care of her my first thought and i was like thank
Starting point is 01:13:38 you yes and then i got taken out in a scene where like ben schwartz was like taken off by military goons for trying to tweet something and like that brought me back into the real world oh my gosh there are moments that i felt really uncomfortable because like there are these sort of these characters that are representing like these branches of the military and how like flippant they talk about like invading countries or like blaming something for another thing i'm like oh i got one for you yeah there's like a tonal thing though too that i realized that might be fucking with me is that it's kind of it bugs me when i see the old kind of humor of like like just calling out that we know it's bad yeah right and it ends there and the joke's like ben
Starting point is 01:14:18 and we showed you we knew it's bad because that's that guy's stupid and we laugh yeah and that actually i was like i was starting to get really really pissed. Not even directly in the context of Space Force, but even other things I've watched throughout the week of like in comedy especially, of just leaving it as like we're smart enough to see the problem rather than using the humor to fucking eviscerate the stupid idea. And actually get somebody to really use humor to make your point. Because when you just go that then everyone goes oh yeah that's right our military does just sort of like unilaterally invade other countries without any kind of support from other nations or yeah we do like just seize private citizens because you know the government doesn't want a secret yeah i mean that's the way i felt that is on who shot you we've been going through the fast and furious franchise and the way,
Starting point is 01:15:07 like, like there's a scene in the, uh, the reboot fast. Well, quote unquote reboot. The, the,
Starting point is 01:15:12 the, I think that's the fourth movie fast and furious where he's trying to get, you know, this race with the guy and he like the SWAT team rates his house and then plants drugs on him. And it's supposed to be like a, ah, yeah, got him. And it's supposed to be like a, ah, yeah, got him.
Starting point is 01:15:26 And it was all because, and what was funny is just even taking a further step back. It was all because he lost the race and he clowned him and he was like, Hey, nothing's going to beat American muscle. And luckily, you know, the character was white.
Starting point is 01:15:38 So it's still like, it was still, but it was like the cavalierness of like, yeah, we're just going to do to further our need to get in on this. We're going to falsely accuse this person of drug dealings. Plant the drugs. And then it even goes even further to me when they're like, you know it's not going to stick, right?
Starting point is 01:15:58 He was like, I don't need it to. Because it was like, oh, yeah. Then it made me realize, yeah, this character is white. He's going to get off on this because if this was a black guy, it definitely would stick. You know, it just, it's one of those things, and I couldn't get to the newer movies fast enough when they're no longer cops,
Starting point is 01:16:14 you know, or working for cops. They're more so just secret agents, and it's in a fantasy world. And another global police force. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're just in a fantasy world. We don't have to work because, like... No longer tethered to anything resembling yeah because he's straight up what makes it suck is like he's lapd you know so so like it's like oh yeah but i mean i don't think any of us are out here capable for la yeah
Starting point is 01:16:35 begin with anything so it's like oh my gosh yeah but i think that's the thing i'm realizing too is like just to that tweet from siobhan thompson about how just how much media informs just how it's like it really is the greatest marketing it's the greatest marketing for our military like i've not it's only a few movies where you're like oh that's an interesting look at how police like work and even how they see themselves like interacting with the thing because it always just it always basically helps set up the binary of cop good whoever cop is against is bad it doesn't matter because the binary of cop good. Whoever cop is against is bad. It doesn't matter because the cop is always good. And I think that people are starting that sort of perception of how the police operate is starting to erode.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Again, because that old man, dude. They shoved that old man down a buffalo bleeding out of his ears. When you see his head leaking, bro, that was too much. Unbelievable. The things that you're seeing in the cynic way i look at it is like well hopefully they'll understand now that it's a white guy you know like hopefully they'll understand how fucked up this is because now you can't just now you now you can look at that and see your uncle tommy you know like like because that's what it takes for some people um
Starting point is 01:17:41 but yeah no it's it's wild i but you know i i you know me i'm just uh optimist to my core so i'm liking the things like uh nypd officers resigning left and right uh you know we did get the officers charged but the battle isn't done and that and i think that's what they're not ready for they they're like they're like yo we about to we we look we arrested i was like cool because y'all forgot about brionna Taylor you know I'm on Aubrey the new person who was just killed by the NYPD you know it was like it's like yeah this is getting
Starting point is 01:18:12 it's gonna get late we ain't done just yeah like because a lot of people are out here we're ready to read fucking Arya Stark's fucking list yeah basically yeah go through there I cannot wait till we get this motherfucking Garcetti out your dad was a cop bro you ain't fooling nobody fuck kill too uh if he it's been a pleasure having you man where can people uh find you follow you hear you see you oh you know me it's uh it's
Starting point is 01:18:39 if you wadi way twitter and instagram if these on twitch um yeah you you'll catch me in super punch monday through friday uh live on twitch at night we've been raising money for the naacp fund uh the legal defense fund so uh you know uh it's gonna be done by the time you hear this so you can't but on your own right donate uh and uh you know i'm retweeting all types of uh you know donations i'm even for for my horny dogs out here i got a lot of homegirls who've been like look donate some money oh yeah i'm gonna show you the tits so look it's i know it's deep in the teen uh so so look i'm helping the simps out let's go uh and is there a tweet or some other work of social oh yeah you know there is this one uh is by the homie yay for zig uh he did this tweet that cracked me the fuck up which was uh it's a
Starting point is 01:19:34 tweet of um king batch i will say coming from a good place he's trying to you know get the word out trying to trying to be a an ally it's him like covered in the names of people who were killed by the by the cops and and he's like saying something i still haven't watched the video because zig's tweet took me out he retweeted he goes look his heart is in the right place and we all dealing with this trauma in our own way but every black person that sees this is still gonna say this nigga look like a chipotle bag and i'm gonna laugh every single time they do and uh he does look like a chipotle bag in this video uh where he has uh people's names written all over him uh i'll put it in the chat so miles can uh enjoy as well uh but yeah uh that that's a good tweet and zig has been doing uh also good retweets
Starting point is 01:20:26 and all that stuff yeah zig's the best miles where can people find you and follow you oh okay yeah he really it It's definitely Chipotle time. With that, it's unfortunate. But yes, you can find me Twitter, Instagram, PlayStation Network, Miles of Grey. Also, my other podcast for 20 Day Fiance, talking about 90 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra and her co-host of her other podcast, Private Parts Unknown, Courtney Kosak. She's, I think, another one of those comedians out there who's swapping donations for nudes. So we got, let's see, a tweet that I like. So this tweet is from at ChrisLoveBCT, and they write,
Starting point is 01:21:15 ACAB in Finnish is K-pop, and I can't stop thinking about it. Wow. It's all coming together. wow it's all coming together that's yeah i mean those man k-pop twitter even though y'all are some nasty doxing people who go way too far sometimes it's just so weird the like there's there's that other tweet that was basically like the avengers that have formed on the internet of like these people coming together like to to show up for george floyd and everybody else like it's really uh something else oh actually earlier i was talking about ben and jerry's because they basically posted just said we must dismantle white supremacy and if you go to their
Starting point is 01:21:53 website they have a very well i i'm like bravo to you for actually like writing something like this uh and then in respect that tweet blew up a lot of people people are like, well, I'm never buying Ben & Jerry's. Yeah, go ahead. So then there's at Angel Teeth. And I think it's at Angel Teeth, but it's spelled T333TH. It says, every other basic response. We stand with our black employees. Smiley face emoji. Ben & Jerry's. We got to fucking smash white supremacy.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Fuck the KKK and fuck you. Black Lives Matter. Our new flavor is called Fuck the Police. It's got blueberries. It's got blueberries. It's got blueberries. Let's see. At Fart tweeted, when someone has the word sarcasm or snark in the bio, they are less likely to understand the actual jokes.
Starting point is 01:22:38 This is one of the great mysteries of the computer. And Sujata Day tweeted Studio executive once told me her all-white staff was diverse because of their, quote, diversity of thought. And somebody retweeted that and said that Bill Simmons told them that.
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Starting point is 01:23:18 We link off the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what are we going to ride into this week on today? I mean, all of us are stuck on our own in a house in L.A., so we might as well do that track by Jungle House in L.A. Ooh! I love that song. It's like I was watching it again for some, like, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:23:40 some video game company was doing a rendering of their photorealistic GTA V up-resing, and it had this song under it, and I was like, oh, this song actually goes. And it has great vocals on it, because the falsetto of the lead singer I really love, plus the really kind of slow, methodical instrumental behind it. It's like, I don't know, it's like feel-good, but also helps you feel a little bit, so you can kind of listen to this song and take it wherever you need to so why don't you all right we are gonna ride out on that we'll be back this afternoon to tell you what's trending and we will talk to you then bye How do I know
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