The Daily Zeitgeist - Avatar 2’s Profound Cowardice, MoviePass Back In Black 09.01.22

Episode Date: September 1, 2022

In episode 1322, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, writer, and co-host of Round Ball Rock, Sean Keane to discuss… MAGA SweatFest...Media Outlets Are Picking Sides, Avatar Has Officially Ditched... The Papyrus Font, MoviePass Is Back From The Dead (But May Just Die Again) and more! Avatar Has Officially Ditched The Papyrus Font Papyrus font creator reacts to viral "Avatar" skit from "Saturday Night Live" MoviePass Is Back From The Dead (But May Just Die Again) MoviePass to relaunch in fall with a waitlist, after shutting down in 2019: ‘Space is limited’ MoviePass will return on September 5th with plans starting at around $10 per month Brutal Startup Is Using Eye Tracking to Force You to Watch Ads WATCH: Giant Slide Music Video LISTEN: La Verdolaga by P18See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
Starting point is 00:00:39 starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 252 episode 4 of your daily site guys
Starting point is 00:02:07 production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it's thursday september 1st 2022 9-1-22 which I don't have to tell you folks. You. Back school times. Oh, yeah, but it's also National Acne Positivity Day. National Burnt Ends Day. Shout out barbecue fans. National Chicken Boy Day. I don't know what the fuck that is. National No Rhyme Nor Reason Day.
Starting point is 00:02:41 And National Hotel Employee Day. Shout out all the people working out there hospitality i know it's been rough i don't what is chicken boy did they fucking got me what the sounds like an insult that somebody would like say in middle school or something oh like whoa what's up chicken boy chicken boy and then marty mcfly would get very mad and it would be a defining characteristic it It's to honor. These are like Route 66 old restaurants. They had like an acrylic big chicken, like a Bob's Big Boy, but I think they had a Chicken Boy.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Oh, okay. Did he look like a chicken? I guess. He was a Bob's Big Boy that wasn't a chicken. Anyways, that's what this episode is about. Yes. We're going to just dive into the history of chicken boy my name is jack o'brien aka zeit rules every trend around me cream pod the money cash that 50 000 bill y'all
Starting point is 00:03:35 and that was courtesy of robert brown silent c you know like czar appreciate that okay you can put a c before any z and uh that is the new spelling uh but yeah that was just in reference to you know how we book the pod uh every guest pays us fifty thousand dollars i know that that dude did not pay fucking 50 grand what dude what are you talking about who what are you look i said some hey sometimes it's an l can't i'll be i am actually very grateful for the high standards that our listeners hold us to if you don't know what i'm talking about you don't have to worry about don't worry but we're back on track back on track our audience didn't like a recent episode and it makes me love our audience shout out to all of you uh anyways i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host
Starting point is 00:04:26 mr miles gray gray aka experimental blazing artist yeah boy kusama shout out my mom who is listening and she said oh you like yayoi kusama like the japanese artist i said mom that was a aka where i'm a young boy And then I had to put in parentheses your boy. So she goes, oh, OK. Oh, it's pretty clever. It's pretty clever. I love you, mom. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:50 If you're listening, if you gardening or some shit right now, you're dealing with cacti. Please be careful with those thorns. Yeah. Yeah. Watch out for those thorns. She. Yo, she's such a stoic. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:03 She's like a gangster. Like one time she's i came over she's like oh i fell into this cactus she had all these like cactus things in the side of her face she's like i can get them out i'm like no you can't oh no and i was like yeah then i had to become the parent too which was a heartening moment heartening yeah it's good it's actually it builds strength i i now have the strength of the cactus dude no she was like on some like monty python like it's just a flesh wound kind of shit and i was like that is not what this looks like at least let's address it well miles we are thrilled to be
Starting point is 00:05:36 joined by a very funny comedian writer and podcaster who you know from the nba podcast round ball rock it's very funny Sean Keen! Sean Keen! Hey, guys. How are you? Good to be on. Good to be on. Thanks for having me on, everybody. Great to have you. If I am reading your bio correctly,
Starting point is 00:05:55 Round Ball Rock is the only NBA podcast? The only NBA podcast. Oh, wow. That's the main one. You can only leave five-star reviews for it on iTunes for some reason. Damn. the main one you can only leave five star reviews for it on itunes for some reason yeah yeah it we think it's uh probably the dumbest basketball podcast that exists now now you are actually getting competitive with us like before i was okay with you claiming to be the only podcast but we
Starting point is 00:06:17 are that is literally what we tell our uh like sometimes we'll have like nba media people on we're like okay so the first thing you need to know is like uh we're idiots we this is gonna be stupid I'm gonna pretend like I don't know who LeBron James is at various points and why would you do that but why why would you ever do that actually they're usually a good sport but when the NBA tweets out our podcast uh Miles and Jack got mad boosties uh it brings in like some people who the fuck are they who's got mad boost anyways wait but round ball rock i'm guessing you're a big fan of the john tash video uh yeah we we like the john tash video we have not really played the song itself but we
Starting point is 00:07:00 did participate in an oral history of the song a few years ago oh contest not really aware of our podcast i don't think he did win our alumni our first alumni march madness bracket though which is just uh match up all the teams with the famous alumnus yeah yeah the most recent winner was uh dr conrad murray however which was a bit of an upset. But the listeners vote, so what are you going to do? Yeah, right. We just leave it to our listeners, you know? Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. The MAGA Sweatfest. Like, I've been, on this story, I've been like a little bit on the fence. Like, is this just going to be another thing that blows over? But, I don't know, something seems to be changing the last 24, 48 hours. And now everybody's, I guess, since the document and, like, the redacted document has settled in. The DOJ clapback that has been felt throughout the MAGA sphere.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Yeah, people seem to be real real worried so i don't know we're going to talk about the sweat fest we're going to talk about the safer american plan courtesy of joe biden and the media's just completely uncritical regurgitation of his description of of what it aims to do. Avatar, this is actually... Avatar. Avatar, go home, Avatar. Avatar has ditched the papyrus font. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:08:33 For something that just looks like a slightly refurbished papyrus font. Yeah, for sure. I'm still okay with it. Papyrus font. Yeah. I'm still okay with it. It is just truly amazing how they used like aerial new. Like it's just one of the fonts that they used for one of the most successful and expensive movies of all time. So we're going to talk about just the journey through Papyrus of James Cameron.
Starting point is 00:09:01 We might even talk about MoviePass coming back. One of our earliest stories we're on the movie pass beat since day one so we'll talk about that but first sean we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history oh yeah so so i this was prompted recently by seeing that uh eminem and snoop dogg did a concert with their Bored Ape avatars. And it kind of looked like it was from like a Super Nintendo, basically.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Rapping on stage. So I ended up getting into this weird internet deep dive about all that kind of stuff. And I ended up learning a lot about MC Scat Cat. Yeah. Who is the rapping cat
Starting point is 00:09:46 who uh duets with paula abdul in the opposites attract video yeah uh he's kind of like the original he's the original bored ape basically yeah but the greatest thing i learned about it is that the guy had the idea and he wasn't an animator or anything and he also wasn't really a rapper so he had to hire professional animators and people to do the rapping but while he was trying to get the idea off the ground he would perform at shows in la in just a full cat costume what so he was like a real life wow and i was just thinking i would pay like hundreds of dollars to see him do like some demos you know one side of opposites attract just did a stack like hot cat costume and and clearly doing this in successful pitch meetings with executives who were like yeah
Starting point is 00:10:42 we just got to animate this and and this is going to be huge. I mean, and it was. It wasn't my wedding song, but I made a strong pitch for it to be my wedding song and to wrap the MC Scat Cat parts. My wife wasn't feeling it, but my wife wasn't feeling it. But it is a seminal moment.
Starting point is 00:11:05 I did not realize that MC Scat Cat was like an artist in his own right. I thought it was just like something that was invented for the Paul Abdul video. Yeah, I think she might have come to Scat Cat, actually. I mean, that sounds like a record company kind of thing where maybe someone did too much cocaine and accidentally signed this guy and they were like we have to do something with we've spent so much money on this animation what are we gonna do it still seems like it's a better idea than most nfts though
Starting point is 00:11:35 like at least the at least mc scat cat does something tangible you know right and yeah his album the adventures of mc scat cat andray Mob from 1991, at least that's a tangible item you could purchase. Yeah, you could hold that in your hand and it wouldn't disappear because someone changed the line of code. I feel like this one, I feel like an actual sealed copy of The Adventures of MC Scat Cat and the Stray Mob are probably worth more than the fucking NFTs that Snoop and Eminem embarrass themselves with up there on stage. I think you're probably right. I also learned that he was in one of the...
Starting point is 00:12:13 I mean, I think I'm a little bit older than you guys and there's a lot of early 90s all-star rap compilations, I remember. And he's in a very, very weird one about recycling. Yes. And it's called Yakety Yak, Take It Back.
Starting point is 00:12:31 And I remember having to watch that in a school class once. And they were like, this is going to make everybody recycle. MC Scat Cat doing a version of Yakety Yak. That's what the kids like. That's so specific to a very to a time period like yeah yeah apparently he tried to get in the um anti-gang violence one which is called we're all in the same gang uh-huh uh that has a lot of west coast rappers i remember thinking like i really like that song and i was was like, I'm going to help this problem. I'm going to help these Crips and Bloods start to get along.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Yeah. And the Young MCs rapping. Yeah. By buying a single. Yeah, buying a single. Oh, Mike. Can you imagine if MC Scat Cat really was being like, I really am trying to bring the fucking gangs together to stop the violence. He's like, I never wear red or blue. I'm not taking a side. I'm not to bring the fucking gangs together to stop the violence. And he's like, I never wear red or blue.
Starting point is 00:13:26 I'm not taking a side. I'm not doing that. And she's just wants peace in the flags together in unity. And they're like, what the fuck is this animated cat doing here? It feels like something from a French satire about American culture, like a cartoon cat rap rapper comes through and is like a sensation and everybody loves it you know like europeans being like americans are so fucking dumb idiots over there
Starting point is 00:13:52 who's he performing with well an old uh nba cheerleader she's she's the biggest pop act in america right now i mean great great artist if you if you ask me i did love paul abdul seminal to my development as a man and uh a great you know dance designer is not the word but you know what i mean the person who designs the dances choreographer really really i didn't realize the whole like there were a couple characters like you saw the stray Cat gang or whatever the fucking crew was in the Paula Abdul video. But they're like Wu-Tang. There's a lot of members. There's MC Scat Cat, Fats, Taboo, Maestro, Leo, Cat Lean, and Silk.
Starting point is 00:14:36 All cats? Diamond and Silk. Diamond and Silk. They became right-wing pundits later. People don't realize they started off. They're mostly rapping about Hunter Biden. They've just been talking about Hunter Biden. They're mostly rapping about Hunter Biden. They were part of the Stray Mob. Was the Stray Mob all cats?
Starting point is 00:14:50 I mean, Maestro, you'd hope Maestro. I don't know. I haven't seen a full image of the Stray Mob. Yeah. But you'd think Maestro would be a mice. Yeah, okay. Or a mouse. I actually didn't know how they were spelling it but yeah yeah you would
Starting point is 00:15:06 think right yeah damn and that does prove that any any gang can get along if cats and mice can get along oh that's a good point yeah that's true gang wow oh yeah maestro maestro is a straight up fucking little rat hey oh whoa yeah that's fun okay okay yeah that would have been so much cooler than like i i got real into that so i like started with mc hammer around the time of opposites attract and then like i real into you know wu-tang clan and like all that sort of rap if i had just like gotten really deep into the mythology around the stray crew and like just had posters of each of their solo albums on my wall when i was in high school you're like oh you don't have the japanese single right oh okay much more interesting path for my life
Starting point is 00:15:57 uh did you know that romany malco wrote the the mc scat Cat verse on opposites of tracks. No. I've got to start somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. This is a big break. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Sean, what is something you think is overrated? Okay. So I don't know if you guys have seen the Manti Teo documentary on Netflix yet. Not yet. I've seen a lot of takes about it for sure. Yeah. It's kind of wild because it's sort of presented in the true crime format, but it's,
Starting point is 00:16:29 I guess it's produced by the players tribune, the, the Derek Jeter site that has like all the managing editors are like Kevin Love and Russell Wilson officially. Basically like any type of players and asking their retirement or has like a poem to share. It goes on there. So Derek Jeter is one of my favorite poets.
Starting point is 00:16:48 So just so you know that before you keep going. It's good. So they make a big deal about how the scandal made him not be a first round pick in the NFL. And there's this big moment when he doesn't go at the end of the first round. He starts crying on the beach. They kind of just recreate that that's the other thing is that he has to do a lot of like really not good b-roll where he's in like an empty house and just pretending to type on a laptop oh they don't even get an actor they just make him no they make him new it and like he's you know he's at this
Starting point is 00:17:23 point he's like a 33 year old man so it looks much weirder when he's, you know, he's at this point, he's like a 33 year old man. So it looks much weirder when he's like out in the ocean pretending to cry. But then he just gets picked six spots later. They kind of present it like he's in the NFL kind of a long time. And they're just like, no team wanted to deal with the scandal. It's kind of like, yeah, it just kind of wasn't that fast. Right. like no team wanted to deal with the scandal it's kind of like yeah he just kind of wasn't that fast uh right yeah but also it just made me think about how they make a big deal going into the nfl draft about that wonderlick test that everybody has to take yeah you know the intelligence yeah
Starting point is 00:17:54 it's really racist it's like super biased but that aside he's like a middle linebacker and his whole job is to recognize things and not get tricked by simple deceptions. That would be the thing that would have made me think. Does anybody make that case? Do they interview any NFL coaches, and they're like, well, so here's the thing. Yeah, the one thing I saw a lot of people on Twitter basically say was like,
Starting point is 00:18:22 numerous times, they were like, if he had just been like any college horny dude and been like, yo, you want to video chat or like send me pics. Right. Then maybe it would have fallen apart a lot quicker. Yeah. And I'm like, well,
Starting point is 00:18:34 maybe he was too nice. That seemed to be, that seems to reinforce the idea. He's like, he was very just not. Yeah. Yeah. He seems like a nice guy,
Starting point is 00:18:42 but not like very smart. It also just made me think like why did this mormon from hawaii go to notre dame like like he went to usc he would have like made out with a girl his first week visiting there and then all of this would have been fine you know right he had to go to a weird catholic school but he's a mormon and yeah yeah right so yeah just just just go to go to a real city dude yeah yeah i mean i think the whole thing was like those questions that popped up in people's mind is like how do you have a relationship at this stage when you're like this big of a star and it just sounds like he was not like very not worldly whatever the opposite of worldly is, he was that. Yeah. And also very nice and naive.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Yeah. I just, I hope they paid him for this because he's. Yeah. Just for, just for like pretending to be young. Yeah. His college self for this very, very low budget documentary. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:19:43 Okay. So the underrated thing is NFL team names. I feel like they're pretty solid across the board, and they have a level of sort of toughness you want for a team. Okay, so you're just talking about Florida teams. Who is a more intimidating opponent, the Jaguars or the Magic? Right. Jaguars isn't even really that good a name but at least it's aggressive in some way right i mean abstract to me magic
Starting point is 00:20:14 is more frightening than the jack i guess that because i don't understand magic and i think that's the devil's work yeah it's a good point but that's just where i'm at but i mean it's a good point. But that's just where I'm at. But I mean, it's I think like Americans like we need the plural thing, too, because like my favorite soccer team in England is called Arsenal. Oh, yeah. I'm an Arsenal fan. It's just called Arsenal. Right. Yeah. And it's so funny.
Starting point is 00:20:36 You've heard. Yeah. No, people like, oh, the Arsenals. I'm like, not the Arsenal. It's the Arsenal or Arsenal. But it's not the Arsenals or the London arsenals or things like that. And like, so when you say that, I'm like, I'm much less bothered by like concept names where it's like this thing. Although mercury, I'm like, you shouldn't break open a thermometer and handle mercury.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Yeah, this is right. That's what I think of when I think of mercury. This is poison. This is poison right here. You're talking. I was yelled at for breaking a thermometer and trying to handle the liquid metal inside as a child i remember that lesson yeah yeah i mean a lot of nba teams are like you have sun and heat they're basically threatening you with skin cancer during the game that's not really again very
Starting point is 00:21:20 dangerous very scary thing we should be more scared of than grizzlies, but just statistically speaking, but we're not. It's you got you got to go with the base humanity. And the thing that people are scared of is warriors or Lakers. Yeah. Talk about fucking names like the what? Yeah. The NBA needs to like they should have made Utah and New Orleans just change names at a certain point. Because like the what yeah the nba needs to like they should have made utah and new orleans just change names at a certain point because like the utah pelicans well i'm singing like when they
Starting point is 00:21:51 were the hornets if you ever go to utah they have beehives on everything like brands around there like state road signs like they they can be the hornets like right that was yeah that's like you sorry you got to take the brand with you to utah it's like, it doesn't quite evoke, one doesn't evoke the other, but that's okay. I'd say the Jazz is one of the abstract concept names that actually works pretty well, though. Like, that is one of my favorite team names. Like, if it was the New Orleans Jazz, like, that would be dope. Yeah. I think.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Yeah. Yeah. And then LA Clippers is also messed up, but just no one cares. No one cares about Tim. You can call him anything. It doesn't matter. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Well, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling, first-hand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions.
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Starting point is 00:24:43 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:25:05 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
Starting point is 00:25:25 This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an
Starting point is 00:26:05 assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The And we're back. or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And yeah, so it does seem like things are starting to crack a little bit more this week. It's just, yeah. They're sweating.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Look, you can only sweat so much before the sweat stains appear. Yeah. Before the makeup starts running down. Yeah, before they're like, we're not sweating. And I'm like, they're sweating. They're sweating. They're sweating. They say they're not sweating. Your color is drenched in skin tone makeup.
Starting point is 00:27:09 You're sweating. You're sweating. And I see it now. I mean, you know, yesterday we talked, I pointed out that like Fox News basically had nothing to say when Trump like went on his QAnon rant and being like, I demand the election be nullified and I am announced president again. They didn't fucking touch that with a fuck with nothing. They didn't want to fucking act like he said that shit. They were just like, yeah, man, fucking Joe Byron, huh?
Starting point is 00:27:34 He's fucking helping out these degenerate college people out or whatever they were. That was like sort of the attack of the day. But then on Tuesday night, another fucking hurdle had been thrown in front of the GOP. Basically, you know, they've been trying the last couple of weeks to what about and threaten their way out of this shit show. But, you know, we talked about how Trump asked for this special master to go through documents to parse out anything that might have been covered under attorney client privilege or things of that nature. The fact is he filed that two weeks after the fact, the DOJ had already gone through everything. So they're like, you really want to file this? Because if you file this, we're going to have
Starting point is 00:28:13 to clap back to tell you why you don't, like everything you're saying is nonsense. And a lot of people were like, he's kind of opening himself up for the DOJ to just like reveal more and make things look worse that may have otherwise been sealed until an indictment or something comes down. So they said, no, we want this personal master. The DOJ comes back and like, here's the thing then. This is why first off you have no claim to the things you're asking for because they never belonged to you in the first place. Also, your lawyers look like they may have been obstructing by hiding documents from FBI agents when they pulled up earlier in the summer looking for documents. And then one of your lawyers signed off on a certification that said, yep, that's all the
Starting point is 00:28:57 shit. All the material is not here anymore. Only for them to return to find this shit. And, you know, the sort of plot not thickens, it just looks worse. And to the point now where his lawyers are like, many observers like, his lawyers are going to need lawyers now because at a minimum they're witnesses because why the fuck would they sign this thing
Starting point is 00:29:16 only for them to come back and find even more documents than had initially been hauled off by the archives people. So this is kind of going you know it's just building on top of each other and getting kind of worse and on top of all that the doj even dropped a pic of some of the documents that they were like that were in the boxes and these things could not look more fucking like top secret they look like fucking props from movies with like the red lines and shit and they're like top secret don't even fucking look in here asshole you're gonna fucking die like they look menacing i've never been more like put off by a piece of paper since i don't know
Starting point is 00:29:55 like god getting my fucking diploma or something that i was like do i really need this but anyway that is kind of the state of things and because because everything looks so bad, they're just having a lot of trouble trying to act like this isn't a really bad thing or that like some of these documents that they uncovered, they were so sensitive that even the agents that were like uncovering them to even review and catalog them, they had to get an additional clearance to be like, bro, you can can't even honestly you shouldn't even really be looking at that right now let's that's how sensitive the shit was so they're trying what they can probably by far the biggest challenge they've had is like a party to try and be like this is nothing man this is fucking bullshit but i just want to note that like the people that have normally supported him in the media they're starting to
Starting point is 00:30:45 turn the other way so let's start with the murdochs right they own the new york post wait just real quick the the the picture of the documents there are some like framed time magazine covers in there yeah he's saving those are those like just the covers of him on like any cover where he's on time even if it's like. Yeah. It's not a flattering president we've ever had. And he's like, yeah, that's right, man. Yeah. The irony one is like one where it's like Joe Biden and the Democrats like looking through the windows in the Oval Office. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:16 At him. That's amazing. Well, he he used to have a fake one up at Mar-a-Lago that was in, I think, the dining room. And it said something like... It's like the person of the year or something like that. Yeah, it was like Trump dominating everywhere, even TV. Right. Trump dominating.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Yeah, the headline said, Trump is hitting on all fronts, even TV, which just, it's like he hasn't read a headline before either. Right. No, Absolutely not. So like, as this shit is just like really hard to honestly, I'm sure that at this point they're like,
Starting point is 00:31:50 I wish you would have just killed a guy on fifth Avenue. Yeah. So we could have just, we could, we could, we could like, you know, mar the good name of the victim.
Starting point is 00:32:00 And you run that whole playbook on them. This one, they're like, ah, we've never done fucking around with top secret documents before extortion bribery corruption that kind of shit where you normally know how to spend but it looks about as well organized as my old bills like is how he has this organized oh yeah to the i mean i'm assuming that like he didn't have it just out on the ground
Starting point is 00:32:23 right like they see no that's just like in boxes. They're like, this is what was in one of the boxes. Check this shit out. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But he did have some of the documents in his desk drawer with his passport. That's why they took the passport. It's not because they were like, let's take his passport. They're like, dude, this guy knew this shit was in, that's in his desk drawer.
Starting point is 00:32:40 How are you going to act like you didn't know? That's where your fucking passport is, where you sit. Label things to pack in case I need to leave the country quickly right exactly and so this filing all it does is make everything look fucking worse and make it look like everything he did was brought upon himself because that's what happened so now the media apparatus is reeling from this and trying to deal with it so the murdochs they own the new york post they've been staunch allies over the years you know they don't they were willing to fucking say anything on that fucking newspaper and the editorial board just put out a piece that said yo the party needs to move on from trump man like like this is what this is just an excerpt from it
Starting point is 00:33:20 quote yes trump did much good in his four years notice how democrats have opted not to repe his tax cuts, but he lost in 2020 because too many Americans, especially moderates, had gotten sick of his self-indulgent behavior. Since then, his egomania has only grown. Yes, Trump still has most of his true believers, but most Republicans would rather the ex-president went away so the party can figure out where it's going in the post-Trump future. Republicans and their candidates need to focus firmly on the big picture. Namely, Biden and the Democrats are an ongoing disaster and Donald Trump is no help in digging America out of it. Oh, that feels like I feel like they haven't been super. There's always stories about like Murdoch giving up on Trump and then like coming back. So for sure. I mean, he's always frustrated. I mean mean by because murdoch's
Starting point is 00:34:06 smarter than trump and he's like i wouldn't do it like that at all right but because he's in power like he's gotta he's gotta fucking try and walk the tightrope because he does obviously once like newsmax started you know getting some of the attention away from fox then they're like fuck okay we need trump to like us again but i i think in their long game version, they're just sort of like, like, this is he looks pretty fucking he looks like he's in a bad spot right now. Like, to the point, they're not really feeling confident how he gets out of it. And what that looks like is obviously to be determined. But meanwhile, on their news network, Fox News, the morning show people, basically they're sounding like, I thought it was MSNBC, the way they were like, why the heck would he have that kind of stuff in
Starting point is 00:34:50 his desk? Like really, really trying to scratch their head. They had Governor Christine Oman from South Dakota and Steve Doocy, he really, I mean, just listen to this and tell me if, you know, he's feeling good about trump right now ultimately it comes down to why did he have all that secret stuff uh at mar-a-lago you know i know he his team has said that they declassified it but that's news to the agencies that those documents belong to and and governor he he had he had apparently three classified documents in his desk. And then the stuff, as Brian detailed on the floor, it shows five yellow folders marked top secret and another one that says secret SCI, which means sensitive compartmentalized information. Those are the biggest secrets in the world.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Why would he, and apparently the president, former president, went through them in January. Why wouldn't he wouldn't he say oh you know what i really need to turn that back over why do you have all that stuff at mar-a-lago they seem so surprised by this but you see but the tone yeah the tone is like they were actually kept in a chamber where they weren't able to find out like how hard trump was fucking up and this is like the first story that broke through. They're like, wait, what? You can't have that? You can't have that stuff? Don? Don did that?
Starting point is 00:36:11 Yeah. Oh, my God. But I mean, it really does, like, you know, that at the very least is them trying to set a baseline with their viewers, which is top America's secret documents shouldn't be fucked around with you know and asking her why and she just went on
Starting point is 00:36:29 you know just did a whole word salad that basically was like well let's see if there's any precedent that might help him here was what everything boiled down to huh let's see if there's any law they can come up with maybe I don't know yeah do they have any.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Is there any problem in having it at a weird, weird nightclub kind of resort country club place that he he brags to people about classified information about? Like if you think about it, it's a sex life, you know, right? Think about it's really the planet Hollywood of Trump. So you do need some, you know know stuff that you put on the walls there from his presidency so therefore uh on the basis of uh the people versus planet hollywood i think we can just say that he needed he needed some pizzazz you know but you know what's funny spirit the shit that like what if you know if we're really gaming that out i don't want to see government documents from him there you know when he that out, I don't want to see government documents from him there.
Starting point is 00:37:25 You know, when he's there, it's like I want to see like even pretend there's a P tape, you know, and put that in a frame and put that on the wall. Or like talk about like the outfit you wore when Putin just like dog walked you across the stage in like Helsinki. Like those are the kinds of things that probably have more value than you want to know how Macron bangs. Here's the nuclear codes. I don't. In his defense, of all the people that have come to his defense, Lara Trump, his daughter-in-law, did a good job. She's got this. She's a professional. On Fox, they're trying to give her an underhand. And what about this new stuff, like the picture that they shared?
Starting point is 00:38:08 I mean, this is kind of bad. But their whole thing was they tried to give her a thing to pivot off of, which was, well, you know, if it was so fucking sensitive, why did it take them a couple days to get the stuff, right? Isn't that the deal? And this is her response, which is not, you know, just not a great response. Well, absolutely. And it feels like they're trying to backtrack and cover up for themselves. I think they know that all of this was done the wrong way. They look really bad right now. Maybe they don't want anybody in there to see how many things they took that they shouldn't have taken.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Who knows at this point? But yeah, Todd, to your point, if this was such an urgent matter, why did they then wait three days after the warrant was approved to go into Mar-a-Lago? None of it makes sense. All of the information that they are slowly leaking out is all in an effort to make them look better and to make a case for their side. It does nothing to further confidence in an institution that we need to have confidence in okay i like how she said all of the information that they are slowly leaking out no you filed a motion yeah this is always their response you you basically said yo man just fuck us all the way up right like we're gonna make this real easy and then then to use the words to make them let bed look better and to make a case for their side that's quite literally what this criminal
Starting point is 00:39:31 investigation is right they're trying to make it seem like they're telling the truth and it's just like uh so pathetic they're leading to the court docket oh Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, who does that? Earlier on, she said, it's a really bad look for the DOJ, is how she started the interview segment. It definitely had, like, Instagram influencer vibes, her appearance. I don't know. I also didn't recognize the Fox News hosts. It felt like this was her being, like, kind of given a tryout on one of the lesser like, you know, like this. Yeah, Laura, this didn't feel like Tucker Carlson, right? Like they were trying her out on a morning news thing and seeing how she did.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And then on this in particular one, like it's not like she's new, but the like see it there. They're looking for they're clearing the bench. They're like, do we got anything back here? Who's going to be able to make sense of this shit? I mean, I'm really desperate to see how much, allegedly, how many stimulants one of his sons might do and then rant into a camera this week. Yeah. But they're pretty quiet. of his sons might do and then rant into a camera this week yeah but they are they're pretty quiet so i have a feeling maybe laura's like look you're the only one who might not be directly
Starting point is 00:40:49 named in an indictment so why don't you go out there right and throw some shit out there great energy from her though just very much like kind of seemed a little sleepy a little zanned out i'd like to see more from her as this develops yeah if she's gonna be a senator like people have said she's gonna have to do better than this i think yeah sorry well i don't know if she's gonna be a senator maybe trump dynasty looking i don't know we'll see again i don't i don't discount the ability for rich white people to pull a rabbit out of the hat at the last minute oh yeah i because at the end of the day i honestly think the most realistic thing is like they're gonna be like hey dude just promise to not like fucking talk like be in politics anymore okay yeah yeah that's what it ends up being and then it's like
Starting point is 00:41:34 see well now you don't have to deal with him anymore it's like what oh okay yeah i feel like i could see a scenario uh mantay teo ask where the government's like, look, as long as you promise not to run for president. And he's like, yeah, yeah, sure, sure, sure thing. Oh, yeah. He said he told us he wasn't going to do it. I imagine he ends up in like a real OJ situation where he's kind of exiled to Florida. He's not facing legal consequences anymore but he still goes on twitter and just gives us thought about thoughts about like celebrity controversies
Starting point is 00:42:10 right right right that that's like i mean it's kind of his dream yeah just to go on tiktok and do duet videos we're not getting out of this without him trying to lead an armed insurrection of some sort like that that's what he wanted to do on the 6th like he's gonna try and get some people to die because like that's well this is i think the most well i don't know realistic or what but like the reason why january 6th worked is because he gave a date and a location yeah it's too it's too it's too all over the place right now it's too diffuse and i think he would probably begin doing something like i'm gonna do a rally at this place for my freedom and that i mean i mean who knows how bad uh department of homeland security might fuck that up but now that they don't work for him they might
Starting point is 00:42:57 actually do something it's just hard it's hard to really run an armed revolt when you literally won't stop start work until noon. You just lose a lot of opportunities there. Very similar to how the Nazis went down. They had a lot of energy at first.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Sleep until noon because they were just using amphetamines and speed to power the whole thing through like that's hitler was sleeping till noon while d-day happened it was like oh this guy this guy can't wake up before noon so let's make that we got a fucking military strategy yeah so maybe it'll work for trump too i like that as a new a new like fucking thing like a dad would say it's like hey you know who slept till noon? Yeah. Hitler.
Starting point is 00:43:47 And that's the worst thing that he ever did. What? Yeah. All right. Well, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about Avatar. Avatar. Avatar. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
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Starting point is 00:48:04 or wherever you get your podcasts. because I am a fan of the movie-going experience, the first Avatar, and I'm excited for the second one. They seem to have given it a new angle, which is that it's in water this time. Kate Winslet had to hold her breath for seven minutes during filming. Yeah, and that's important to me.
Starting point is 00:48:41 That's how I judge how good a Cameron movie is going to be, is how unhappy everybody was while making it. Yeah. Who nearly drowned. Yeah. But he has made the conscious decision to abandon the previous logo, which notoriously was just the papyrus font. Not a great font. font not not a great font a font that is the hallmark of every restaurant that serves like pita in new york city like it's just oh yeah for sure yeah it's like mediterranean north african
Starting point is 00:49:17 stand-in font yeah it's like this ain't the west people are on twitter have called the move an act of profound cowardice. By not embracing the norm core of it. Yeah. Which I really appreciate. This is one the Twitter reaction is
Starting point is 00:49:40 the best and only reaction on this one. It is an act of profound cowardice and they didn't even get the kerning one. It is an act of profound cowardice, and they didn't even get the kerning right. It was just one of those things that I feel like has just been like a pop culture meme. You know? It was like, from the second that people were clocking it as papyrus, they're like,
Starting point is 00:49:56 yo! Fucking, you just like clicked on the font pane and just like went to the one that looked good first. You didn't even have a custom one built, and yeah, it always became like like it's always been swirling in our minds i think or at least people who were bothered enough by it yeah and the new font is just comic sans which is crazy like that is not it is no you got me you got me got it i'm man tie tail today yeah it's there there was that 2017 snl sketch in which ryan gosling is obsessed with the question of why someone would just use the
Starting point is 00:50:36 papyrus font for the logo of a major studio blockbuster right that was i don't know it's a weird genre of snl sketch where it was like yeah but that's a good point man yes I don't know, it was a weird genre of SNL sketch where it was like, yeah, but that's a good point, man. Yes. I don't get the joke. Or maybe it's just because I am that character and other people find it ridiculous. I mean, it's pretty, I mean, is this the most influential thing that SNL has made happen in the last couple of years? They don't influence presidential elections. They influence something more important, which they maybe they maybe convinced Alec Baldwin that he could shoot someone with impunity.
Starting point is 00:51:10 But other than that, like, that's kind of it. Oh, man. But that impression, like, it honestly felt like the spirit of Donald Trump was inhabiting another human body. yeah the spirit of donald trump was inhabiting another human body that's why like in the worst fucking way like in a way that felt like even if he physically is not on this earth his spirit may infect some other assholes yeah and like we'll forever be tormented i'm just kidding it was the worst impression maybe the show's ever done and they're like you know who should hold it down during the worst presidency of our lifetime? Dad of the year, Alec Baldwin.
Starting point is 00:51:47 He's pretty checked out. Yeah. Right. But some things that I didn't know are our writer, J.M., did a little deep dive on the history and said the guy who created the papyrus font sold it for $750 when he was 23 years old, which is a bummer. And also like, it's kind of appropriate that that's the font they used originally because people have pointed out like this, it's basically a sci-fi riff on a familiar Orientalist story about like white
Starting point is 00:52:20 human savior and magical savage foreigners. And James Cameron like cited Lawrence of Arabia as a major inspiration. So it's just like, what if? But it's also just so perfect. I feel like Avatar is just, it's one of those things like MC Scat Cat that is just so of a time period. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Yeah. Of a time period. You know. Right. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like. Like.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Everybody's. Everybody had. You know. Playing around with. Adobe. Software. At that time. Seeing what they could do.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Right. With their Photoshop. And you're like. You know what. I'm. James Cameron was working on the script. At a Rainforest Cafe. And he's like.
Starting point is 00:53:00 I like this vibe. Right. I like that it's raining inside. I like everything that's going on here. He's like, just body shop. Check. Rainforest Cafe. Check. We gotta get this Avatar stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:14 And then helicopters are gonna fight dinosaurs at the end. Which is cool. Which is awesome. Great movie, and the sequel's gonna be even better. Have you seen all the titles yet no they're kind of well the the new one's going to be called the way of the water i guess yeah and then the the they've announced the other sequels too and they are called avatar the seed
Starting point is 00:53:39 bearer avatar the token rider and then avatar the quest for awa oh those are all terrible those are worse than the papyrus font for sure yeah i think the way of the water is good the rest are the rest of those seem just like arbitrary and like hopefully they they don't stick with those those feel like star wars prequel titles where it's just like, oh, so I need to have read novels from the extended universe to know what the fuck you're talking about. How much,
Starting point is 00:54:12 how much more are we dealing with? Yeah. Can you imagine you go in, you're like, oh, you didn't read the books. Oh, then you're going to be fucking lost in this one.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Oh man. They're like, wait, you're don't, none of y'all learn Navi. We didn't put subtitles in this did you guys watch avatar the animated series yeah but that's well that is like the main i think question people have about way of the water is they're like it seems like they're
Starting point is 00:54:39 leaning into that where they're like you know because that was all about airbender waterbender the third the third installment is the way of earth yeah right okay the way of the air the way of fire curver guy also i guess the guy who died in the first avatar is supposed to be the bad guy in all of the sequels yeah makes sense i don't wait is Is it? This is a prequel or this is after? No, it's definitely. I don't really understand how. So he's back. Sigourney Weaver's back, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:13 All right. Well, the thing is, you can avatar someone. Yeah. So don't don't ask too many questions. Got it. Got it. Got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:18 And if somebody gets dark avatared, it's really crazy. Yeah. The things they do with that braid are gross all right let's talk about movie pass because this is this is a story that won't die we we were talking about movie pass when it first started and around the time that our show was first beginning it was it seemed like a deal too good to be true that was in fact too good to be true and it was funny because like so many of our guests are like you know stand-ups and stuff and so they were like oh my god this is i i feel like we our guests on the show were overrepresented in the in the world of
Starting point is 00:55:59 like people who subscribe to movie pass and yeah but but yeah a lot of free time with your guests oh you're just yeah well yeah because also too everyone's take two that had one where they're like they felt like these people are fucking dumb this isn't a business model i'm out here jackassing it up at five movies a week for three bucks like wow it's just where i spend my days now is at the movie theater right and then apparently they just started, they were worried about people seeing too many movies. So they just reset their passwords and let you reset them. And they're like,
Starting point is 00:56:32 no one's going to notice this. Right. Right. Well, yeah, I think we, and cause we've, we've talked about the evolution,
Starting point is 00:56:38 like up until this point, like they died, then some company bought them and they're like, we're going to reboot it. And then they like, didn't. And then one of the original people came back who luckily was like the person who was like hey man this shit sucks i think like i don't think we can sustain this and they're like get the
Starting point is 00:56:55 fuck out you hater yeah the person who had the like reasonable objection during the like venture capital days and they were like oh so that's actually a really good point and you're fired and you will be escorted out and you no longer have access to your email and we won't this is a company we're committed to losing 200 million dollars a week in movie tickets your negativity has no place here if you can't get on board with that there's the fucking door man yeah but yeah this that like the the new iteration is there's a like a beta program starting labor day but the thing that i'm really confused about most people are is that the new pass has three tiers ten
Starting point is 00:57:36 dollars twenty dollars and thirty dollars but no unlimited movies but and you just get credits per month no idea they've released no information what a credit is or worth or what a dollar gets you it's just like yeah we got three tiers man check it out maybe come check out the beta and they're they're so slow in responding that at this point all of the actual movie chains have just offered a version of this service already right that's pretty straightforward too. I mean, it still has like weird bonus points and things,
Starting point is 00:58:07 but it's pretty straightforward. Like, yeah, you get a dollar off your popcorn. That's the club. And movie pass is like, no, okay.
Starting point is 00:58:16 You solve this rebus. And then we're going to email you a one-time QR code. You scan that at the theater and that's going to triple your movie pass points for a matinee right you know just none of it makes any i mean they're like here's the thing man uh movie pass holders can use multiple slurp juices on a single yeah it does like so if you have one astro pass and three slurp juices you can create three movie passes oh shit oh no oh fuck i don't know i don't know about this one but yeah to your point i mean i And three slurp juices, you can create three movie passes. Oh, shit. Oh, no. Oh, fuck. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:46 I don't know about this one. But, yeah, to your point, I mean, I think that I don't know how feasible this idea is anymore. Because you got to work with the people that already have this service for their own businesses. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So they're going to be a pain in the ass about letting you use MoviePass, I'm sure, because now you are a competitor instead of like a fun little thing that they're humoring. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:12 It's also crazy that they decided to announce now with nothing. Right. Like they didn't have to announce the service yet. They could have figured it out or had some idea. But instead, someone was like, we gotta go now. We gotta go now. The Heat's movie pass is never... We're losing momentum. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:32 There will be a movie pass card and this time it's black. It is the coolest looking of the movie pass cards I would say. It looks like a black card, like a credit card that Jay-Z has or some shit. Like something... That's fucking baller is what i'm trying to say and the sample they gave out is of somebody named movie pass mike
Starting point is 00:59:52 who was a member since 2012 i love that but according to movie pass the weight the waitlist space is limited although everyone who gets in receives 10 friend invites but yeah just so many unanswered questions like why is there a wait list or a friend invite or tokens it's like how you people who are into earning points using ways right i had a friend who was like oh there's some there's some there's some road snacks like what are you talking about he's like i you know i reported a stalled car what do the points get you nothing right right right it's just points points yeah right what's the problem there are new features on uber by the way that make me terrified of uber where they're like uh here like the thing i mean they might not be new but i just updated for the first time in a long time and they're all about getting kidnapped by your here's like a button that you press that like is very discreet that let your friends know you
Starting point is 01:00:51 are being kidnapped and here is like another thing where your close friends note it will be notified if your driver takes you off course in the opposite direction that you're supposed to be heading then that's scary well the 30 movie pass they do actually have death pen of it if you're if you're kidnapped at the theater so that's yeah that's nice to have yeah some of the best life insurance policies there was a another interview that the dude who's running it again just did and he basically said that chains like AMC, Regal, and Cinemark are not included. Just Arclight, actually. Wait, what?
Starting point is 01:01:32 Hope you guys like Cineplex, Odeon, and Lowe's Cinemas and Pacific Theaters. Like, they're all defunct. What are you fucking talking about? And I think the way that, like, the only little bit of detail says that the different varying prices just create credits that sort of like say that it basically will say it's cheaper to watch a less popular film at a not peak time. OK, great. Kind of how it's going to break down. So it creates its own market. It's like you have to you got to be tracking market market dynamics here to understand how MoviePass operates now.
Starting point is 01:02:06 This is going to somehow deal with the thing where someone's like shorting the Avatar sequels. Somehow this has become a way to pump and dump movies. Just so you know, before we were like, oh, we're kind of ending this piece. Jay was like, yeah, it might not turn into some crypto shit. Oh, yeah. Hold on to your asshole. Because in this same interview, the CEO said,
Starting point is 01:02:29 quote, customers, theaters, and more, customers, theaters, and studios will be able to trade in everything from commemorative NFTs to digital currency and more.
Starting point is 01:02:40 These emerging technologies will allow us to build a full end to end cinematic marketplace that we have. We have dreamed of for some time. Who's we, bro? People like Goldman Sachs. I think just humanity in general. I think that's an assumption that applies to humanity. We've always dreamed about being able to trade.
Starting point is 01:02:58 And yeah, maybe maybe these movie theaters in the metaverse will take the points like that's maybe that's going to be the evolution is you have to your avatar can go to a movie theater in the metaverse will take the points like that's maybe that's going to be the evolution is you have to your avatar can go to a movie theater in the metaverse and right and just be confused or it's like why do i have to watch my weird avatars like out body like why am i outside of my body in this metaverse experience i'm watching a little bear watch a film right now no i'm not this is not what i paid for but i don't know i mean at least the did they talk about the eye tracker technology that was the last thing i remember that the ceo was saying is like but you could earn points if you put eye tracking software in the phone and we know you're looking straight at the ads on your phone yeah i mean like that's brilliant yeah yeah if you're like an extra good consumer of the ads then you can
Starting point is 01:03:53 get treated to new movies yeah you get treated to new previews aka ads yeah before anybody else they're kind of they're in a hard place because their initial offer as a company was bro this is this deal's illegal people fucking knew they're like we're gonna get yeah someone's going to jail right until then until then go nuts as many fucking movies as you want but just this is a crime you're committing but since since you don't know, it's really on us. And now they're kind of like, hey, you want coupons for three cents off a movie that at a theater that's like so inconvenient for you to go to. Right. And also, this is probably also illegal. Like we have defied the feds before. We'll do it again. Now install the eye-tracking software. All participating theaters are in the greater Las Vegas area. We hope that that's not a problem for anybody. I live in
Starting point is 01:04:51 Madison, Wisconsin. Yeah, yeah. That's something that we're working on. Yeah. That's cool. Okay, because you can get Greyhound points if you watch another trailer for Minions 2 as a group. Great. There's a direct flight on Spirit Air you can get. You get three bucks off that one if you show on the movie pass.
Starting point is 01:05:08 You're not allowed to be clothed on the flight. There's a shoe fee, but unlimited Minions, bro, if you're able to make it down. By the way, I am liquid in Spirit Air points. I have a lot of Spirit Air points. Yeah, that is mainly what i trade in these days well you found a place yeah well then on top of that what the mood and then the movie market's depressed on top of everything else right they're not they're not picking their spots necessarily they're just picking a spot at random it would seem yeah but anyways hey we're talking about it
Starting point is 01:05:44 so i guess, you know. Well, yeah, because we like to watch stuff crash and burn. Yeah, and they paid us $50,000 to do so. And we can, with those credits, we can watch one IMAX film on a Tuesday morning. You cannot watch Avatar 2 in 3D.
Starting point is 01:06:00 You can watch it in IMAX, or you can watch it in 3D, or you can watch it in the metaverse. Those are your only choices. That movie passing is like, yeah, you can watch it in IMAX, or you can watch it in 3D, or you can watch it in the metaverse. Those are your only choices. They're going to say, watch, that movie passing is like, yeah, you can watch Avatar, but you're going to watch it raw, no 3D glasses. Yeah. You can watch the 3D cut with no glasses.
Starting point is 01:06:16 And eye-tracking software. You have to sign this waiver that you will never watch it in 3D, only 2D. Oh, like when you adopt a cat, and they're like, this cat cannot be an outside cat. You're like, you promise us motherfucker, you'll never watch Avatar in 3D. Sean, truly a pleasure having you
Starting point is 01:06:33 on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? I'm just at Sean Keen, my name on Twitter. I'm at JortCenter, and you can follow RoundballRock, we're at RoundRockPod on Twitter. And'm at JortCenter, and you can follow RoundballRock. We're at RoundRockPod on Twitter. And then I write about the Warriors on Golden
Starting point is 01:06:49 State of Mind. And I just stand up in the Bay Area. I'll be in Elk Grove soon, so things are going great. Is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh, yeah. I don't know if you guys have talked about this, but the giant slide in Detroit, the wildly dangerous really tall slide yeah where people are flying up off of
Starting point is 01:07:11 the thing yeah blown get concussing people and shit yeah yeah so there's um there's a a song that a detroit rapper made about the giant slide and someone said it to footage of people wiping out on the giant slide and at first i just wanted to watch people wipe out and then the song's been in my head for like a whole week basically yeah it's really good it's only a minute and a half long too so you can listen to it a lot without uh having any problems we'll link off to that in my footnotes uh miles where can people find you what is the tweet you've been enjoying find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray also check us out on the dumbest fucking basketball miles and jack got mad boosties uh and also check me out on the dumbest fucking reality show podcast
Starting point is 01:08:00 out there for 20 day fiance uh that i do with uh sophia alexandra and i man i like some fucking tweets let me just get into my likes and here we go first one is oh uh derrick at derrick 818-533-8254 oh i wonder if you're in the valley homie uh it said if it didn't hurt to crash your car i would do it all the time some guy cuts me off going 25 miles an hour and i flip my car as a bit love the love the dedication to that energy uh another one is i don't know did you ever see the video of that that little uh black kid like at the fair and he's eating corn and he loves corn i don't think so all right never mind that's that's too online for y'all okay then i'll go on to another one because there was a meme.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Probably not for our listeners. I'm just... Okay, well there was a meme that said, it says, truck spills load of corn on highway. And it's like this overturned truck and it's just inundated with yellow on the road. And they did the dude like, you know, rubbing his mitts meme from behind the tree in the yellow suit. But they put
Starting point is 01:09:01 the little boy as him because he's like, ooh, corn. If you watch this video, you'll understand because this boy loves his corn. And then, finally, Dharma and Greg at Tanagra at AnimeWeedFart69 tweeted, imagine JFK trying to pronounce horchata.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Horchata. Horchata. Horchata. Horchata. let's see jack raines tweeted you've been speaking english your entire life but did you know that the words you speak are all created from 26 individual letters here are the 26 letters that you must know it's just good good ad or good uh internet writing and then shane stinky little hog tweeted bartender the usual my man me yes sir bartender kisses me on the forehead you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website,
Starting point is 01:10:08 DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? This is from P18. Now, I don't
Starting point is 01:10:24 know if P18 is like their own artist or if they're like one of these crews that puts together songs from other artists uh so forgive me if i don't know the origin of this track but uh earlier this week we went on a track by sumo hair called por el suelo and this is a track this is actually i based on what I, I was just listening to some music and I was like, wait, I think that he's sampling this track for Por El Suelo. This is called La Verdad Lada
Starting point is 01:10:50 and it's by P18. Yeah, check this out. It's really dope music and good to start your weekend off. I know it's almost the weekend, but sometimes, in my mind, Thursdays, it's like diet Fridays, you know?
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