The Daily Zeitgeist - ‘Avengers: Endgame’ Killed X-Men, NRA Robs Self At Gunpoint 6.12.19

Episode Date: June 12, 2019

In episode 411, Jack and special guest host Laci Mosley are joined by comedian and Bechdel Cast co-host Jamie Loftus to discuss the shooting of David 'Big Papi' Ortiz in the Dominican Republic, the NRA stealing money from themselves, suicides by gun, Trump's tariff's deal for Mexico, Walmart introducing robots to its stores, Kevin Durant's injury, the Poor Man’s Theory Of Pop Culture Success, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. EXCLUSIVE: Ex-Boston Red Sox star David 'Big Papi' Ortiz was shot in a Dominican Republic bar by 'two cops hired by a drug lord who believed the baseball hero was having an affair with his wife'2. NRA money flowed to board members amid allegedly lavish spending by top officials and vendors3. All-American Despair4. Gun prevalence and suicide rank by state5. Mexico Agreed to Take Border Actions Months Before Trump Announced Tariff Deal6. As Walmart turns to robots, it’s the human workers who feel like machines7. #SquadGoals: How Automated Assistants are Helping Us Work Smarter8. What the media doesn’t show #nbafinals #warriors #raptors 9. Kevin Durant injury update: Warriors reportedly fear torn Achilles; what setback means going forward10. WATCH: Santigold - Valley of the Dolls Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever

you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 86, Episode 3 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck Koch Industries and fuck Fox News. It's Wednesday, June 13th, 2019.

My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Adolph Littler, a.k.a. Broseph Ballin, a.k.a. Danklin Rosasvelt, a.k.a. Winston Church Trill. Those are all courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi-Mann, and I'm thrilled to be joined by my co-host, guest co-host, Lacey Mosley. Hey, it's Lacey Mosley, a.k.a. Sam Goddess, a.k.a. I don't have nothing else for y'all today. I'm sorry, a.k.a. Scam Goddess, a.k.a. I don't have nothing else for y'all today. I'm sorry, I'm tired. Wow. She just doesn't bring it when it's me.

All right. That's really harsh. Right off the top. Wow, Jack. Wow, Lacey. Wow. So very interesting. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by Lil Xander.

So, James, welcome. A.k.a. third seat by Lil Xamarin, so Jamie Lawson. Aka... Is there any other like nerdy shit you guys do that you don't talk about a lot? Is there like... Playing games? No. Hmm? Well, I mean like generally, but...

Thank you. So many times we get to play, everything gets so serious. Life is serious out here. Yeah, that's true. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. We don't play unless it's... That's true.

EA, EA. EA. EA about it. Yeah. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. We don't play unless it's EA. EA. EA. EA. Uh-huh. Cool. Cool. Yay.

Yay. Wait, was that us talking over that? That was, yeah, that's a clip from the Daily Zyka exactly a year ago because that was when I interviewed Migos. Migos. E3. E3, talking about EA. Can you tell they were sponsored by EA that year? I could because they kept saying EA.

I think they just had to say it like 10 times in every interview and I had two minutes with them. Well, I'm thrilled to have both of you here today while Miles is out on a mission at E3. But is he going to meet Migos, you know? That's the question. They seemed like just a fascinating, lively interview. So we can only hope that he gets something like that. Jamie, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. Lacey, it is a sports day.

Woo! Yeah. Sports ball. Sports ball. We're talking about Big Papi getting shot and just the Dominican Republic in general. We're going to talk about the NRA getting caught stealing from itself. RA getting caught stealing from itself. We're going to talk about Trump's big deal with Mexico, what we're calling no deal or no deal. And Walmart has introduced their new robots.

And working with them sounds not great. Not according to them uh they compare their robot workers to r2d2 and optimus prime in uh a like company newsletter titled uh hashtag squad goals swear to god uh so we're going to talk about that and we're going to talk about uh kevinant going down with the most predictable catastrophic injury ever and just a very depressing injury in what has become a really good finals. So yeah, big sports day for you in particular, Jamie. We knew you had some hot takes to unload on us. And we're going to close out with the poor man's theory of pop culture success which is a theory that movies fail because some other movie has already filled the the role basically it's coming off of dark phoenix failing because avengers endgame had already sort

of satisfied that itch so we're going to talk about that, how it explains different movies that failed and other Hollywood careers that failed to sort of take off. But first, Jamie, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay, this is a search from this morning. I've been having some wild dreams. And so my search this morning was dream about rabbit with crust on its mouth oh no from what i can tell there's there's not a lot of uh there's not a lot i may be in fact an innovator in this field your brain has invented a new dream i had a dream last night that like it i had a dream that i woke up and there was a turtle in my bed and it was like hugging my leg.

And I was like, I'll be this turtle's mom, sure. And then I was like, I got to go show my friends, which they were all at a grocery store in the back because they worked there. So I went to the grocery store, brought my turtle and I was taking it out of the bag to be like, check out this turtle. But then it was a rabbit with crust on its mouth. And they were like, where'd you get this crusty rabbit? And I was like, he'll tell you. And then he couldn't talk because of all the crust on his mouth. Horny turtles do turn into crusty rabbits. I believe that is like the caterpillar to butterfly transition. Maybe it's a science stream. Yeah, yeah. I was looking for, I was like, what does it mean? But maybe it's just that.

Maybe it's a memory that actually happened to you. I think it may have been a repressed memory of the time I brought my turtle to a grocery store. Our neighbor has a white rabbit that is constantly escaping and just hanging out in our front yard, which is cool because we get like a pet rabbit for free. Is it like one of those big ones? It's not that big. It's just like a, you know, like a normal sized rabbit. But people, like at least once a day, people stop by our house

and are like, your rabbit got out. And it's just very, and then we have to explain, no, it's our neighbors, but they don't care that their rabbit's out. They just let it stay out

and it comes home. So very weird. Is there such a thing as a wild rabbit? Like that you keep, it's like not like an outside rabbit? Right. I thought it was just a normal rabbit.

What if it meets any other rabbit? And it's like, oh, wait. Let's bounce. Yeah. Let's get out of here. I used to have a pet turtle named Football Team. Oh, no. Really?

Yeah. He was really cute. I had him in college. You're the best. Thank you. Yeah, I think the way. I had him in college. You're the best. Thank you. Yeah, I think the way that they know it's not a real rabbit, and this is some information that apparently everybody but me had, is that white rabbits don't exist in the wild.

They only exist in magician's hats and my front yard. Oh, wow. Maybe you're having a dream. Yeah. No, it's like very dream logic-y, though. It's just this like every time I come home late at night or, you know, from work, there's just a rabbit that's just like staring up at me like as I walk past my front lawn. If anyone in Zeitgang is a dream analyst, let me know because seeing a rabbit in your dream is supposed to mean like a sign of success and luck. But what if it cannot speak because it's too crusty?

Right. Seems ominous. Right. Right. Was the crust a specific color? It wasn't like- It was also, it was a white rabbit. The crust was also white, but to the point where you couldn't even see the rabbit's mouth.

His mouth was sealed. It was pretty grotesque. I think it had rabies. Yeah. It sounds like a rabie rabbit. Rabie rabbit. Damn, that's crazy though because normally the dream websites be having all the tea.

I go on there all the time. And I don't know if I make interpretations on dream websites just because it's what I want to happen. I remember I used to have these vivid dreams in college before. This is terrible, but I stole this girl's boyfriend. But the dreams was like, oh girl.

Love, the ultimate scam. The dreams were like, oh girl, you're supposed to be with this man here. Love with you. Y'all supposed to be together. That's at least my interpretation. Oh really?

Huh. I wonder if you can like find, that's interesting. There's some like reliable dream websites that I go to that just basically confirm my own biases. Wait, really? Reliable in that respect. I's interesting. There's some like reliable dream websites that I go to that just basically confirm my own biases. Reliable in that respect. I need that.

I was on dreamingandsleeping.com. It doesn't sound like a regular. A to Z dreams, honey. Because then you go A to Z dreams. They got everything. They got kissing your cousin, making out with your auntie. They got, you know. I know.

You know, the greatest hits of dreams that we've all had. Kids are your cousin making out with your aunt. Right? Come on now. I still, my worst dream that I've ever had or the dream I had that I've never been able to analyze is like when I was 12. I had a dream that I was having a birthday party and there was like one of those inflatable jumpy houses, which we could like, I never had one of those. And I was like, oh, this is so cool. It's my birthday. And they were like, actually, this is so cool. It's my birthday.

And they were like, actually, Bob Saget's in there, and he's not going to come out. So it ruined the party. That sounds like it could be a memory also. Wait, how old were you when you had that dream? 12. I just watched reruns. Of Full House.

Yeah. You already got the sense that bob saget was a just a moody bitch like and he's not coming out uncooperative bitch bob saget uh what is something you think is underrated underrated um having an ugly dog oh i here's the thing my dog looks like shit right now your dog's hot my dog is okay have you seen my dog is so cute i love sunny very i'm love i love my son no matter what however uh he got a real bad haircut oh right where they were basically like we're shaving him and now he looks like lord farquad he looks oh no he He looks... I'll just share a quick visual because this is a visual medium.

He looks quite bad when I saw it. My boyfriend was afraid to show me because he was just like, it's not good. Oh, right. Sonny's with your boyfriend. It's not good. Oh, wow. Yeah, he does look like Lord Farquaad. He looks like Lord Farquaad.

He looks like William H. Macy to many. Either way. Oh, okay. Youquaad. He looks like William H. Macy to many. Either way. Oh, okay. You know, it's not the best haircut. He's still a good looking dog though. He's still cute. He's still cocky as hell. But, you know, it's interesting.

It's like, you know, sometimes you look at your beloved after a haircut and you're like, yeah, I just don't love you anymore. Turns out looks are truly everything. But it's fun to show people how ugly he is. And I've actually been enjoying it. I can't be a mother. And it adds character. I mean, like, I feel like all beautiful dogs look alike. But, you know, a dog with a bad haircut, bad haircuts are unique. He's really going to have to develop a personality. Right.

He actually has quite the online personality. That's true is uh you know just countdown to brexit uh what is something that you think is overrated overrated is rebecca who cut sunny's hair i'm still so mad about it i would also say something that's underrated uh that also counts would be Phantom of the Opera, the touring production. That's underrated? That's underrated. I just have two underrateds today. That's cool. I was just having an off day, and then I remembered there's a local production of Phantom of the Opera nearby, which always makes me feel better.

And so I put the ticket on a credit card, went, sat in the very last row next to a daddy-daughter date that did not seem to be going very well. Oh, no. Which is, like, a huge Phantom of the Opera mood is there was a dad who was trying to connect, and his daughter was like, I think it's sexist. And I'm like, okay, don't ruin this for me. Oh, really? That was probably his weekend. He was like, come on, you normally get you for the summer. Right.

Yeah. Summer. It seemed like a tense relationship to begin with and then she's just like i think it's sexist and he was just like well i don't know what to tell you and just immediately flips out he was drinking yeah it was all she was drinking okay also the 1 p.m matinee which is oh is important. Oh, no. He didn't want to beat her. He was like, look, you said you like plays. I brought you to a play. The fuck else do you want from me?

God damn it. She was literally, I mean, this girl, she seemed pretty cool because she was like 13 or 14 and she's like, actually, I like the messages perpetuated in Spring Awakening much better. Well, Spring Awakening isn't showing right now. We're at the Pantages. They only show one show at a time. But I felt great.

I thought it was amazing. I'm trying to just run into the Phantom of the Crush. Now I've been to plays on Broadway and I've been to high school plays and I can't, as somebody who is not a huge play person, I think they're both equally of value. I think they're both fine. I agree.

Is that something you'd say is underrated in general, is just any play you can get to, like local theater? Local productions. I mean, this was a pretty fancy, it's the National Touring Company, but as someone who's attended a lot of performances of Shrek Jr., when I first moved here i drove to

a middle school production of shrek junior and you really see kids doing the absolute most um and yeah it's it's it's great that's awesome check out local theater also never go to a youth production by yourself you look like a pervert. You look like a creep. And the parents think that you're trying to make their kids famous. They think you're like a scout. Oh, and how do they react to that? Are they like, leave my kid alone? Maybe it's a good hack.

No, at Shrek Jr., I was getting free cookies and lemonade because I was a lone adult. And they're like, she's got a beer. Wow, scam alert. Guys, show up to these plays alone. because I was a lone adult and they're like, she's got a beer. Wow. Scamalert. Guys, show up to these plays alone. Free lemonade and cookies, bitches. All you need to show up with a clipboard and wear a blazer.

That's right. I was writing about it so I was taking notes and I think the parents were like, they thought you were about to make their kids a star. Wait, why were you writing about it? She was with UTA. I did.

I used to write about a lot of different productions of Shrek that I would see across the country. And so this was the first middle school production I had seen. And I just, you know, I didn't think. I'm not familiar with. You could have taken this further. You let the parents approach you. You're like, yeah, yeah, manager talk, you know. That's amazing.

You could probably get some free meals out of it by just being like, yeah, we're really interested in your kid. Like, should I come over for a meal of some sort? You get one friend involved. You got everything going. I got a photographer for you guys. They're only $1,000. Like, y'all start fully going to jail. See, I love the way your mind works.

You've already got your friend in on it who gets paid $1,000. That's how you get the scam going. Come on, John Robert Powers. Oh, yeah. Who's that? Oh, one of the biggest and best to ever do it. John Robert Powers advertised on the radio that he was going to make you a star. All you had to do was get your mama to take you to the mall and then

sign some contracts and give john some money what did he have a store at the mall no you just met him in the mall no i'll be at the mall food court and people were just like yeah okay a lot of people would go to the mall when you're in texas you don't know how the fuck to get on tv so you're like i guess we gotta go to the mall. That is incredible. I remember being told to stand straight at the mall in case there was, at the Brockton Westgate mall.

My mom was like, you never know. My mom. Your mom? She was like, you never know. They could be casting for Play It Again sports commercials. Well, that's fair. She probably recognized that you were a star at a young age. She was just like, don't look like you have scoliosis at the mall now i am actually not familiar with uh the mythos of shrek jr is this a completely new story that was written for stage that's about a so there's a broadway production of shrek that is like not very funny and and kind

of serious okay shrek is you see new dimensions of him you'd never see otherwise. Right. So I saw that, the touring production in Boston when I lived there. And then Shrek Jr., no, like Shrek Jr., they just, they make it funnier. They add more farts. Okay. I mean, the cast of Shrek Jr. can't get enough of the farts. So the Jr. is for the kids that are in attendance. It's not about Shrek's child? No. It's not son of Shrek Jr. can't get enough of the farts. So the Jr. is for the kids that are in attendance.

It's not about Shrek's child? No. It's not son of Shrek? Same show, but everyone, like the actors are kids and there's more farting. Got it. And what's a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false or vice versa? That you should try to reconnect with people from your past that you only sort of knew in the first place.

Okay. The example I will use is I ran into someone I knew in Boston at, like, I was, not to brag, but my career was going very well, so I was performing in a wine cellar. And I ran into this guy, that very nice guy. We used to do improv together when I did that and like we were having like a really nice conversation and my set was coming up and I was like oh my god it's so good to see you you should like you know if you have a second my set is in a few minutes which normally I wouldn't do but I was like I know this guy it's fine and then I you know turn my back to go into the room and then I looked back like as I was about to enter the room and he was truly

fleeing the bar like which is exactly what I would have done if someone invited me to see their stand up set at a wine cellar yeah but it did haunt me all weekend. Aw. And, you know, he was right, though. No, he wasn't. Yes, he was. Like, in general, okay, taking the odds, if somebody that you used to do improv with invites you to their stand-up set or stay for their stand-up set,

yes, maybe, like, if it's just anybody. But he missed a great stand-up set, Jamie, if you ask me. See, the thing is, i had already trapped him there by acknowledging that we knew each other because it was the sort of thing where we didn't have to say hello he said hello to me first i'm like okay now you have to suffer through you know and but then i i actually do admire that he did that because that's what i would have wanted to do and i probably wouldn't have gone through with it. Yeah. And yeah, he's canceled in my mind for life.

Yeah, he can go fuck himself. But I do admire him. I was fully expecting him to be masturbating when you looked back. That was just where my mind went. I was like, I don't know how people think this. Maybe that was too sad of a myth. But I do think that in general,

if you see someone you used to know and you're like, I really have nothing to say to this person, just see if you can make the mutual agreement to not even say hi. Yeah. Yeah. Just always, always, always, eyes straight ahead, pretend to get a phone call. Exactly. Get out of there as fast as you can. The Jack O'Brien method.

Pretend to get a phone call. Hello? Hello? Phone? Yes, it's me. Sorry. Jack. It's my phone.

I say different names. Phone needs me. My phone needs me. Sorry, a phone call, one of those. My phone's hungry. Hungry for talkie. Let's talk about Big Papi real quick. He was shot in the Dominican republic a couple days ago now the bullet

entered uh his lower back exited through his abdomen took place at what what was at first referred to repeatedly as an entertainment center uh which is fascinating that's a piece of furniture yeah that's a piece of furniture in these United States. That is what they call a bar and lounge. But he underwent emergency surgery, was flown to Boston, and is being treated in one of the better towns for medical care. They had to take a piece of his gallbladder out, some of his intestine. But he seems to be making a recovery. If you're not a sports fan, he's basically as close as, if you've heard of the Robert Redford

movie, The Natural, where this dude just out of nowhere starts hitting home runs and they're always clutch and he just hits home runs at will when it's like the most dramatic moment like that's kind of what david ortiz was he got traded from the twins was not like a heralded player and then just became like the greatest red sock in the history of uh red socks when i when i heard about this i could just hear my uncles screaming in Boston. Like, oh my fucking God, what's going to happen? This guy. I can't do a Boston accent.

This guy. This guy. Boston. Boston. Oof, my wrong. Shit. It's also very crazy because they said that he was shot from point blank range in the back. And it came out through his stomach. And so what's crazy

is this person was probably like aiming for his heart but like Ortiz is such a big guy like how would you know where his heart is? It could be anywhere. It could be anywhere. So I mean I imagine they said that he's like doing very well and that he's predicted to just have a full recovery

which it's like imagine being someone like that and getting shot. And it's just like, ow! Right. Yeah, exactly. Ow! What the fuck? What was that? Gotta go back to Boston early.

Sucks. He walks out of the park. He's like, well, this ruined my night. Also, one of my favorite Kenan characters on SNl uh weekend update when he does his impression of big poppy yes and just says different foods over and over again i'm very glad he's okay yeah yeah i also he's a sweet guy i love that so he's really respected in the dominican republic they love him so much down there and apparently he like gives back a lot he's like very philanthropic but he's also like a man of the people obviously he's just kicking it at this entertainment center with no security um but when he got shot then a crowd

commenced to beat the man who shot him yes badly it is brutal uh you have to keep reminding yourself oh this guy just shot big poppy yeah to not feel terrible about it because he got his ass whooped okay well that's yeah yeah uh you can tell also that like in the security video when the guy shoots him that he has a sense that he's gonna get his ass kicked because he like shoots and runs like in one motion he's like like he's already scared before he shoots him uh What a hit man. I know, exactly. You're like, why? He's like holding the gun with two fingers. He's like, ugh. I'm sorry.

I'm really sorry. Oh, my God. Bang. Ah. Now, non- You know that did not feel good to do. Goodbye. Oh, my God.

That must hurt. Non-reputable news sources are reporting that this might have been in retaliation for an affair that big poppy had with a drug. Kingpin's wife is not being reported in mainstream news sources because that's not the sort of thing they would report. But also it seems like somebody is going around and deading this story because on the New York post, when you read the regular description of the, of what happened,

there's underneath there's a story that says like poppy allegedly shot in retaliation for an affair with drug kingpin's wife and when you click on that it takes you to a story that doesn't mention that so they haven't fixed the headline yet it's like these child stars 12 ways to see if you have neck cancer it's like nothing to do with what it was before the new york post is like look we're still gonna get the clicks okay we'll take the story down but we're still gonna get the click no there's one weird secret shout out to big poppy though because he must have like the beyonce publicist team because i because I've only seen Beyonce get something scrubbed from the internet. Everybody else has to kind of ride it out. But this is, I don't know, an unreputable news source.

Every now and then they get a ride. Yeah, I mean, it's on like nj.com and mostly foreign news sources. It would be an interesting aspect of the, as long as, just because he's fine i'm like i guess that that is an interesting story i don't know yeah the dominican republic so lacy you were pointing out that there's been a bit of a trend with americans having a rough go in the when visiting the dominican republic yes uh which brings me to is the the DR canceled? Yes. A recurring segment. Is the DR canceled? So six Americans have died mysteriously there in the past 12 months.

The deaths include a California man who apparently drank a scotch at the Hard Rock Hotel in Putakana and then immediately fell ill and died. The scotch was from a minibar. Now, this seems like correlation, not causation. It seems like he had that drink and then died of something else. Now, see, that's what I would think. But then at another resort, the Bahia Principe Resort, there was a woman named Yvette who also had a drink from her minibar, went to bed, and never woke up.

So that's like the second person who was drinking something from a mini bar and then died. And then there were three people who were found dead and had fluid in their lungs and respiratory failure, and they have no other proof. Just covered in mini bar bottles. Yeah. They have no other proof, or I guess cause of death for these people. But these six people all died in the past 12 months and people have already kind of been this was a actually all sourced from CBS News because they kind of tacked this on with the whole story of Big Papi getting

shot because it's like oh another thing happening in the DR but people there have been whispers of people being like oh people were found dead in the DR again like I guess we shouldn't go to the Dominican Republic anymore wow yeah and the U.S. State Department rates the Dominican Republic at a level two out of four, urging visitors to exercise increased caution. Which is just like, don't drink from your mini bar. Right. Is that increased caution? I would think the mini bar would be the safest.

Yeah. Because everything is sealed, right? Right. Like in a mini bar? Like you crack the seal open and we gotta look into like what brands of stuff were people drinking because you would think, yeah, like sealed drinks are safer.

I think that the DR should be cancelled. I think we all should stop going because you're not really decreasing the ticket sales to go there and then I'll go. There you go. Oh, so it's a scam. You guys do not go to the Dominicanican republic it's not safe okay we're gonna take up with like a case of her own scotch she's like we're good

sell it like a lemonade stand all right we're gonna take a quick break to check kayak for tickets for the dominican republic and we will be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture

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I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports where we live at the intersection of sports and culture up first I explore the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese I know I'll go down in history people are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game every great player needs a foil I ain't really near them boys I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way

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so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.

I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil.

I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is And we're back. And the NRA has been caught stealing money from itself.

Dun, dun, dun. Shocking. I know that a... That's such an upstanding organization. I know. An organization that's overall stated motive is to profit from the deaths of innocent people would be corrupt. But they have been paying like so basically members of their board have been getting paid exorbitant fees for things like public outreach and firearms training.

A former pro football player who serves on the National Rifle Association board was paid $400,000 in recent years for those tasks, public outreach and firearms training. What is public outreach? Just like tweeting? Yeah, probably. Give the NRA a chance. Smiley face. Right.

Posting on Instagram. With your gun. Hashtag NRA. N-R NRA. That's right. And this comes after the CEO racked up hundreds of thousands of dollars in charges at a Beverly Hills clothing boutique. Because you got to look good as the CEO of the NRA. You got to look cute, mostly.

What if he went to like Kourtney Kardashian's store? What if he was like, yeah like It's like a deeper scam? Yeah, it's like he's just shopping too much at Dash. Which if you're shopping at Dash, it's a scam. They don't have clothes in there. No, it's an empty room that everyone's taking selfies in.

But overall spending on campaigns was down for the NRA in 2018, so people were speculating that this might mean that they are uh headed for trouble um and yeah they're just not an efficient or well-run organization don't give your money to them even if you're a terrible person and want to uh there's also the fact that uh so this is kind of a separate story, but somewhat related, out of control,

like there was, the suicide rate was going up for the past like 15, 20 years and particularly among middle-aged white men. And so once the economy recovered, it just kept going up. And so there the economy recovered, it just kept going up. And so there are reasons like bad health care systems. A lot of the people just are uninsured.

Like lack of mental health resources? Yeah. There's no local mental health resources in the states that have some of the highest suicide rates, like Wyoming and Alaska. But the other thing that they have is some of the highest gun ownership. And it's just, it's not even, like, anybody who's paying attention to statistics of gun ownership and, like, suicide attempts with guns versus with other methods,

gun ownership leads directly to suicides. And there was an article in Rolling Stone about this sort of epidemic of suicides in the American West, and people will flip out if you talk about solutions like gun locks even which make it like take eight to ten minutes to unlock the gun so giving you some time to think right right yeah like any yeah right and it's directly tied to like like class like what you're saying too i worked on a story for uh playboy last year where it was all about like a hike in suicide, mostly by gun in Aspen.

And then like these ski resort towns of people who were priced out of, you know, they like lived in Aspen when you could afford to. And then they were priced out. And the weird spin by the NRA to be like, it's the altitude. You're just, your air is bad. But it is like there's a direct correlation to gun ownership and fatality rates. Yeah, it's truly evil. Like the fact that you can't get,

like even though the statistics, like you can just Google and find statistics that make it clear that there's a direct correlation between gun ownership and death by suicide, like they have, like the NRA has prevented the CDC from like publishing anything on those statistics because they don't want things like that to be evident. Now, if the campaigning, like if their campaign funds, or I guess the spending has gone down in 2018, do we think that's because they don't have the resources to do that same kind of campaigning?

Or do we think it's because kind of like mass shootings are campaigning for the NRA? Every time there's a mass shooting, we're basically giving the NRA free press. And since we decide to not do anything about it, it seems like the NRA has won every single battle. Right. They sort of just continue to get the press and nothing changes. won every single battle. Right, they sort of just continued to get the press and nothing changes. I do think that they're being hurt some by the Parkland shooting

and the backlash against the Parkland shooting and the NRA. So younger generations, the NRA is extraordinarily unpopular, but it also made a lot of other people donate more money but um it's tough they don't like make their finances super uh available or they hide bad news behind a bunch of different things but it it's speculated that it might be because they're actually becoming less popular and so they have less money to donate because otherwise like they would donate as much

as they possibly could that's what they're there for i mean because otherwise they would donate as much as they possibly could. That's what they're there for. I mean, that would be my hope. But then also if there's siphoning and stealing happening, then what's that indicative of? Either that they're profitable and it's like, oh, no one's going to notice a little 400 grand here. No one's going to notice this little shopping spree.

Or it's like, shit is going under, so let me get mine before. Right, like let's just all charge it to the company before the company no longer exists yeah which is also yeah fuck listen who hasn't taken a staple or a five when things were going down we're out of business it's fine staplers let me know if y'all want staplers after this. I got staplers. I think of all like the super deluxe hats I just have at my house. So it's like taking a box of them. I had something interesting that, I mean, this is sort of related, but I have a friend who is, and the way I'm going to say it, it sounds like I'm talking about myself.

I'm not. I have a friend who was struggling with OCD and her therapist created this incentive system for like every time that she would repeat a habit that was an OCD habit she's trying to break, she would have to donate a dollar to the NRA. Oh, God. She has broken so many habits. Oh, my God. It is crazy that you can really use your hatred of the NRA to, in fact, improve your life. Oh, no. If you have to give a dollar to the NRA every time you fuck up. Wow.

Well, fuck the NRA. Yeah. Yeah. The NRA has a Venmo, too. It's Diva Lace. That is truly maybe the very first positive thing the NRA has ever been responsible for. Yeah. The very first positive.

She's doing great. Yeah. It really does sound like I'm talking about myself. She's doing amazing. And she looks hot. And just in time for summer. And just in time for summer. There's a Rolling Stone article that I was talking about before that has a bunch of information on the correlation between gun ownership and suicides. And, you know, this is an opportunity for me to bring up the British coal gas study because suicide is oftentimes more opportunistic than people think.

oftentimes more opportunistic than people think. And one stat that jumped out at me is that one third of suicides in Utah, which is a high suicide rate, like one of the top six states, happened during a fight with a loved one. So somebody is like in a fight and just goes and shoots themselves. So because you talked about the coal gas study, we all have to take a shot, right? Yes, that's right. All right. Let's talk about all

of the tremendous progress that Trump has made in Mexico, except he hasn't. I mean, I think this is mostly well known at this point that he threatened all these tariffs. The Republicans weren't thrilled with the idea of another trade war. And so he backed down, but he spun it as a huge success and used a bunch of things that Reichstag Barbie had already secured back during December negotiations. And he was like, look at all these things we're getting because of my tariff stuff. So that's still happening. yeah yeah i've just never seen

someone so concerned with pr i know like more than actually doing the job of being the president we were talking about that helicopter crash uh earlier before we recorded and the fact that he just jumped on it and was like hey our condolences the trump administration stands ready to help you with this one person helicopter crash also the trump you mean the government right it was just the trump squad it's all about branding and trump we trust oh god i'm giving them stuff now. So we talked before about how Walmart was planning to automate a whole bunch of their jobs in their stores. And they were selling it as giving their human employees fun robot counterparts to work with. No. What?

Yeah. Squad goals, guys. Hashtag squad goals guys hashtag squad goals um but so I don't know are you guys RoboCop fans I can't say I've never seen it you never seen RoboCop so a big part of it is that oh yeah okay super sick and that is a huge problem these robots that Walmart is using are shooting people's dicks off wow no but a big part of robocop is like the human cops are like robocop isn't real cop he's a robot fuck that guy he shouldn't be on our police force uh that sort of thing nobody likes robocop it's very uh rudolph the red-nosed reindeer does that but at the end they're like oh he is a nice

cop yeah yeah everybody loves robocop by the end, they're like, oh, he is a nice guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody loves RoboCop by the end. And they let him play in all their reindeer games. I was just thinking about it. I was like, man, there's going to be a fucking version of her for the Walmart robot. They're like, I think I'm falling in love with the Walmart robot. And the Walmart robot's like, actually, I have thoughts too. And you're just like, no, you're stealing people's jobs.

Yes. Are there Walmart robots? The Wobots? The Wobots? The Walmart. There's an app called Wobot that's supposed to be an AI therapy. And I've tried it. How does it work?

It's horrible. It's just a robot being like, how do you feel? Oh, really? I'm like, not so good. And it's like, choose an option. Oh, gosh. Call the National Suicide Hotline Close app. These are your options?

Yeah. Oh, no. It's bad. But are they going to be the greeters? Are they going to be? Yeah. What is their role? So janitors.

Janitors? Oh, hell yeah. They scan items on the shelves. So people are not thrilled with the fact that Walmart lied to them, essentially. And instead of hiring robot helpers to help their human counterparts, they fired people. There's one Georgia Walmart that named their new robo-floor scrubber Freddy, which sounds cute. But they actually named him after the janitor who was fired and replaced with him.

No. That now bears his name. Freddy. My God. Yeah. When Walmart said that the robots were gonna help their other employees, they meant-

We're gonna help him find a new thing to do with his life. Like, look, Freddy, you're immortal now. Help him find the unemployment line to do with his life. Like, look, Freddy, you're immortal now. To help him find the unemployment line. Ah, poor Freddy. And this article says that the robots have a couple kinks. Like, Freddy has been known to take, quote, weird detours and is prone to, quote, nervous breakdowns. You know, just normal robot stuff. Like people.

Yeah, exactly. Just normal robot stuff. Like people. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so they said that the robots would free people's time up to do more satisfying jobs, but now a lot of workers are forced to basically babysit the robotic counterparts. So they're basically training and maintaining machines that are being groomed to replace them, which is probably super depressing.

That's so, I'm looking at pictures of them now. I'm like, please say they don't have heads. They don't have heads. They look like large vacuum cleaners. Yes. That just sort of roam the store. If you're at Walmart and you're training up one of these glorified Roombas, just start programming some wild shit in there, okay?

Teach them wrong. Have Freddy drinking cervezas. Teach them wrong. Have Freddy, you know, drinking cervezas. Get them drunk. Be like, babies aren't your friends. And then see how quickly they get out of the store.

Right. Program Freddy to... God, that is so dystopian and upsetting. Because it's, I mean, Walmart employees are already so, like, historically underpaid

and abused by, and now, ugh. Yeah. Horrible. Yeah, it's why they're so extraordinarily profitable. Yep. The way it's being messaged to the employees from corporate headquarters. So they issued an announcement last month, as I mentioned, up top, titled, hashtag squaggles. Oh, wow. month as I mentioned up top titled hashtag squaggles and the company said

it would be expanding its robot program and compared the machines to the Star Wars droid r2d2 and transformer optimus prime quote every hero needs a sidekick and some of the best have been automated you think Michael Bay couldn't hurt the world more right And in terms of how they're being received by customers, customers have reported being spooked by them.

And because we are garbage people, people have been kicking, shoving, and slapping robots for no reason. Honestly, if that gets the robots out and gets people jobs back, slap the shit out of the robot. Honestly, if that gets the robots out and gets people jobs back, slap the shit out of the robot.

Like, I don't know. Now listen, if I get in a fight with a robot, I can sue Walmart, right? But the robot hit me first. Yeah, ready to prove events. Ready pulled up on me. Right. In aisle three.

One customer probably in an opioid-related incident, quote, fell asleep on top of Freddy the floor scrubber who just continued traveling throughout the store with an unconscious man sprawled on top of him. Oh, this is so dystopia. I like, my aunt works at Walmart and like she's been, I haven't spoken to her since this like started but like it's like she was worried about robots taking her job

and back when I was like, you're, relax, you're fine. Right. And now it's like, no, they're out here.

They're coming. It's, oh God, so many people are gonna lose their jobs to these shitty, scary things. I just can't wait for the robots to unionize. Yeah. Well, I mean, this is the plot of, you know, movies like iRobot, also the name of the company that makes Roombas.

For some reason, named it after an Isaac Asim asimov story about robots who uh revolt but yeah but also buy a roomba right have it drive around your house all day i honestly do want a roomba the big issue that they're having is how to allow robots to communicate with people because you can't have them talk because people will then uh think that they can talk back and robots don't speak english good and so they're using roadrunner style beep beeps and the sound of reversing forklifts which i'm sure is very pleasant pleasant easy on the nerves making yeah like just making the shopping experience at wal somehow even worse. Right, exactly. As if like the blinding, like, fluorescent and guilt is not enough.

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I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on.

From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?

And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.

Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that?

Just come here and play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black.

I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back.

So Kevin Durant, it's sports moment again. It's sports beat uh and kevin durant came back two nights ago in the nba finals after people were speculating why didn't kd play game four like he could have i'm sure uh so he came back for game five and uh people were saying you know one of the top concerns when you have a calf injury which is what he was out with for the past handful of games is that you have a weakened calf so you're putting added strain uh on your achilles tendon and so he started the game out five of five from three point range i think or he started the game off just like playing incredibly and

looked like he hadn't missed a beat uh and then he crossed somebody up pushed off of his right foot which is the one that the hurt calf was on and you could literally see the achilles like snap in a close-up video um because it's like they say it's like just a band that snaps and like the tension like goes up the leg and it feels like you've been like shot or like kicked in the back of the foot. Uh, and like, that's, he just like immediately went down. Uh, but it was just, I don't know. It was really upsetting.

Uh, made me, i don't know it made me hate the sports media complex even more than i already do because of all the takes of people being like why isn't kd coming back he should just like play hurt and uh all the bill simmons is and the ringers of the world talking shit about so kawaii leonard who is the best player on the other team, sat out last season because he didn't feel 100% about his health. And he had a muscle strain. And everybody was like, why isn't he playing? And people assumed that he was just being lazy. And it turns out, no, when these guys are hurt,

they should be free to just heal. Yeah. And he sat out most of the season uh came back and is now like playing better than basically anybody in the league uh but people i don't know i mean i'm sure who's to say if kevin durant would have just come back anyways even if there wasn't speculation that the warriors are like better without him or whatever. But I hate sports journalists. Because that's like a career-ending injury, which is terrifying. Also, it's crazy that you're saying all these sports journalists were accusing him of being lazy.

And now that is completely flipped. And now people are like, who the F cleared Kevin Durant to play? Dr. Pampa? Who did this? Right. Blame Dr. Pampa. who did this? Sports, right. Blame Dr. Pampa. Y'all did this. Sports journalists and journalists who speculate on the stock market

are both comically, just like they change their take from one day to the next. And we'll be like, what idiot said that? And you can show them video of them saying it 10 hours beforehand. Like that Spider-Man meme. It's you. You did this. You are the one. You know, as he was sitting there, just, you know, just in shock on the court, there were a couple of Raptors fans who were waving goodbye to him and like clapping that he was injured, which was disgusting uh but it should be noted that like you know as he was leaving the court uh you could

there was actually like overall the uh stadium was chanting kd and you know were basically being classy and it was just a couple people like i i was rooting against them just nevertheless because of that one person who was an asshole and i was also rooting against the warriors before because of that one person who was in the front row seats who kyle lowry like fell next to and he like pushed kyle lowry did you see that no like it and it's just this like 50 year old like white guy just like reaches over and like pushes him and like just looks and he literally looks like he's going yeah like that's it's just the wackest thing ever and it turned out he was a minority owner of the warriors you're kidding no that's so petty and awful isn't that pathetic so

anyways i've now realized that it's the only people I hate are the people who can afford courtside seats. So it's just rich dicks. Right. It seems like they're getting more ostentatious too about it because like it used to be like I remember the biggest thing you would see was like Spike Lee at the Knicks games and he'd have his hands on his hips and we'd be like, oh, mama Spike's out here mad. And now I feel like every including Drake.

I love you, Drake. But also you've been doing a lot too. They're all on the court. They're talking shit. What do you think you at? A high school basketball game? Sit your ass down. What are you doing?

I'm okay with Drake because he has a relationship with the players. He's like their friend. He shows up at practice facilities. They're at work, okay? Jack, your friends don't come in here and try to get on the mic like, excuse me, Jack. Hello. Hello, Daily Psych.

It's Drake. Have you ever done a show where your friends come and they're basically heckling you at your own show? You're like, I think you think you're doing something nice, but you're not. Yeah. Don't. Don't do that. That's my friend.

Like, stop it. I don't know you. they're like, don't do that. That's my friend. They're like, stop it. I don't know you. Now, on the other hand, if my friend was Drake, I would be totally cool with him coming in here and being my hype man. That's true.

I mean, President Obama saw Drake at a game and was like, yo, Drake. Like, dabbed Drake up. That's fucking awesome. That's very true. I would be like, Drake, get in here and get on this microphone. Right. They want to be cool.'s fucking awesome that's very true i would be like drink it in here get on this microphone right like they want to be cool but but then perfect that was like really um but yeah then these dudes who are like owners and uh or just like rich enough to afford a courtside seat at an NBA game, feel entitled to make themselves a part of the thing.

And it's just like, that's got to be infuriating for the players. Absolutely. Whose kid was it that grabbed a player? God, what was the player's name? What was the player's name? He's very popular, and he gets in trouble a lot because he's always doing crazy stuff. Crap, I can't think of his name. Draymond Green?

Maybe. Oh. No, no, no, not Draymond. Oh my God, it's gonna fucking kill me. There was a little kid who grabbed his jersey and he turned around and told the kid not to touch it. Oh, Russell Westbrook? There we go.

Yeah. Yeah, and everyone was like, Russell shouldn't have done that, but it was like, that kid shouldn't have, why does that kid think he should grab this man? Yeah, I feel bad for NBA players. I know that's not like everybody's like, Yeah, they're very rich.

They're so rich. But I also think that they're very misunderstood and highly criticized by people who really do not deserve to be criticizing them. So yeah, anyways. Prayers for KD. Prayers for KD. And I get to cheer for the Warriors

For the first time in my life as an NBA fan What we really need to remember is that Usually when you're at a basketball game There's actually a Zamboni nearby Because a lot of basketball stadiums Double as hockey stadiums And that is worth keeping in mind So at the end of the day

There's always that Yes Alright guys I wanted to talk about a What we're calling And that is worth keeping in mind. So at the end of the day, there's always that. Yes. All right, guys. I want to talk about what we're calling the poor man's theory of pop culture success. Scott Mendelsohn, who writes about Box Office for, I think, Forbes and a couple other websites, has published an article where he kind of proposed this theory that Dark Phoenix, the X-Men movie that just laid a brick. Super tanked. Yeah, super tanked this past weekend.

It got beat by Secret Life of Pets 2. I know. And I heard that was bad. Yeah. Not even the good Secret Life of Pets. Not even the one that we consider canon. Right. His theory is that it failed,

probably because it wasn't that good, but also because Avengers Endgame had already sort of satisfied that itch, which that wasn't the most convincing one. But he also pointed out a couple other examples. were really successful the first couple of times when they came back and J.J. Abrams was basically stealing the plot from the first Star Wars and just making them about Captain Kirk. Those were really successful. But then when the Star Wars movies actually came back,

basically he's saying the Star Trek movies were the closest we could get to new Star Wars movies back then, but the second The Force Awakens came out, the second The Force Awakened, Star Trek movies just died. There was a third one that came out that was even more critically acclaimed than the first two, and nobody went and saw it because, you know. It's just like genre burnout, basically.

Yeah, and it's almost more specific than genre, and it's like they're too similar. Like the other example he's talking about is that Godzilla movies haven't done very well. And they've probably been greenlit because the Jurassic Park franchise came back and is doing so well. movies are kind of more interesting than Godzilla movies are like more built for the modern culture. Godzilla movies don't do as well as they would if there was no Jurassic Park movies. So it's almost like the movie studios green light these movies because they're like, well, look, it's a it's another comic book movie with an ensemble cast, and we know those do well because of Avengers, but then they don't do well because of Avengers

because they can't both exist. Because Avengers just came out. Right. You know a crazy thing that happened, though, in 2006, and I'll never forget this, The Illusionist and The Prestige. Right. Yes. And what was crazy about this was, The Illusionist and The Prestige. Right. Yes.

And what was crazy about this was that The Illusionist came out first in August 18, 2006, and it didn't do as well as The Prestige that came out October 20, 2006. So the same movie came back out again. Yeah. But this time it had Hugh Jackman in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It had Hugh Jackman. It was by Christopher Nolan.

It was a much better movie. It was around Halloween. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It had Hugh Jackman. It was by Christopher Nolan. It was a much better movie. It was around Halloween. Yeah, it was fucking dope. People were like, this is magic time. I mean, that happens a lot. I think in business they call it the second mover advantage where Google perfected what I think Netscape or some other company that nobody remembers was doing. It made the better version of the thing uh oreos was actually a ripoff of hydrox not the other way around oreos came second and just did it better

and okay we're owned by a bigger company and i think this is also an interesting way to think about like movie stars careers or at least actors i don't know if these people qualify as movie stars i think we talked about the fact that Mila Kunis basically had the career that Rachel Bilson was going to have. Like after the OC, everybody was like, oh, Rachel Bilson's about to blow up. And then Mila Kunis came and just took all those roles. Filled that void. Yeah.

We were trying to think of other examples like Keri Russell had the career that Rebecca Gayheart was supposed to have. And Isla Fisher, is that her name? Oh, yeah. Yeah, Jenna Fisher, Isla Fisher, and Amy Adams. Amy Adams took all their work. Yeah, she took all their jobs. To be fair, she is better than the other two.

Right. Yeah, no, I think that's fair. Isla's funny. Isla is a little funny. She's fair. I love funny. I love kids that are funny. She's good. I always confuse. Now maybe it's just actors I confuse for each other, but I truly, Naomi Watts and Sienna Miller, I couldn't tell you.

They're 15 years apart in age. I have no idea. Oh, are they really? Yeah. But which one is older? You don't know. But Naomi is getting the jobs, right? I think Naomi's getting the jobs, yeah.

Because I think the only thing I know about Sienna Miller is that she used to be with um Jude Law I thought that was Naomi Watts yeah it's interesting on a hose knee I was pointing out that there's a guy named Matt Balmer whose name you probably haven't heard because Henry Cavill has been getting all the work and looks exactly like him. Looks exactly like him. And Henry Cavill sucks, too. If I were him, I would just start saying I was the other guy.

I would start showing up at auditions like, hey, it's me, Henry. And your people go, no. Maybe he can't book everything. Or he could just be like, you know how you like looking at Henry Cavill, but you don't like watching him perform? Here's where I come in. You know how you like Henry Cavill, but you can't afford him? Me, cheaper Henry Cavill. I will change my name to Henry Cavill with an I at the end of it.

Henri. Henri Cavill. Henri Cavill. I'm just the rich man's Henry Campbell right something I always uh a video essay I've seen a couple times that I like about it's a little more about genre burnout and is a little bit less specific but um was sort of drawing the same comparison to what she predicted was going to be eventual superhero burnout because I feel like people have been predicting superhero burnout is going to happen for years.

And Lindsay Ellis made a really good video essay about how people got burned out on the big budget Hollywood movie musical in the same way when Hello Dolly came out in I think it was the late 60s. Oh, okay. And there were just too many it was a really expensive one with big stars that was supposed to do really well it tanked and then

basically no musicals came out for like 20 years right and you know I wouldn't I wouldn't hate if that happened I don't I don't know I don't superhero movies it makes sense like I don't really carry their way but it makes sense that people are getting. Yeah. Especially when it was such a specific like, and this ends this thing. Right. End game. But that is an inefficiency. That is something that Hollywood sucks at is they just pay attention to whatever the most recent one is rather than being like, okay, that tanked because we had too many of them too close. And this was derivative of the other ones. But if we did another big movie musical and made it different in some way and made it grease, then it'll be good.

Right. Grease and space. I think that also happens because these movies are being produced so many years ahead of time. So it's like you don't realize that something's going to tank until it tanks and you have already had something in production for four years. So it's got to come out and you've spent all this money on it, but it just isn't going to do as well. I don't think Hollywood's ever been very good at forecasting. And when you're shooting a movie that's so complex and has so much CGI and stuff

that it takes like three, four years to make, then you kind of need a little foresight. And sometimes there is enough of an appetite for both of the things, like Armageddon and Deep Impact came out the same year and they were both pretty successful movies. I mean, Armageddon was incredibly successful, but Deep Impact did well.

Too successful? I like Armageddon. I like that that's the only movie, unless Nancy Sinatra's ever done this, where like the girl, like a daughter is fucking to her dad's song. Oh, God. Tyler fucks to Don't Wanna Miss a Thing, and you're just like, this feels wrong. She's like, yeah, Dad, I don't wanna miss a thing.

And then in the video. Imagine your father's voice being like, this is so cool. Oh, God. I close my eyes. I wonder if like. I think, this is so cool. Oh, God. My clothes, my ass. I wonder if like. I think about this all the time. Yeah. I wonder if like.

Gross. Genuine's daughter or something. Like, you know, somebody whose parent made like a really like classic fuck song. Like Barry White's daughter. Yeah. What does Barry White's daughter do? What does Barry White's daughter fuck to? Please turn this off. I mean, anyone's daughter. What does Barry White's daughter do? What does Barry White's daughter fuck to? Please turn this off.

I mean, anyone's kids. You're just like this. You've really killed. I'd be like, you have to go home. Yeah, Bill Pullman and Bill Paxson, both. Both great. There was enough for both of them for two white, vaguely handsome Bills in the middle of the 90s.

I do like them both. You see Bill Coleman in The Sinner? Yeah, I've heard great things. Like a weirdly sexy performance is weird. Really? Yeah. There's also the argument for Dark Phoenix that I feel like any potential burnout aside,

it was just a movie that had a lot of reshoots and sounds like it just, if it was great, maybe people would a lot of reshoots and it sounds like it just, like if it was great, maybe people would be seeing it. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Cool. Well, Jamie,

it's been a pleasure having you as always. Thanks for having me, Jack. Where can people find you? You can find me on twitter.com at Jamie Loftus Help. Instagram at Jamie Christ Superstar. Listen to the Bechtel cast.

I'll be in London and Scotland all summer doing my show, Boss Whom is Girl. And to everyone who's been asking where the ticket links are for the London show, I don't know. They'll be there soon, and I'll let you know when I have them. Keep Googling. Yes, thank you for wanting to go, though. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying?

Yes, there is what I find to go, though. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Yes. There is what I find to be a really sprawling, epic tweet from my friend George Severus, who is a queer New York comic who posted something so funny for Pride Weekend about brands. And it's a Notes app tweet. So the first picture is him wearing a shirt that says, Gay and Stupid. The next is the Notes app saying, The first time I had a stupid thought, I didn't have a word for it.

I grew up in a family that had been rooted in toxic intelligence for generations. My parents could never see past the vicious cycle of reading, learning, and then seeking out more knowledge. From a young age, I knew I was different. My sisters dreamed of being doctors and lawyers. I dreamed of partnering with brands to raise awareness. When I told my parents I was gay, they said, does this mean you will finally start having complicated thoughts and or interrogating the world around you?

I was crushed. I felt like I had stepped out of one closet and into another. It wasn't until college that I found a community of like-minded gay men who taught me that I don't have to be a writer, artist, or employee just because I'm gay. Today I can finally say it. I am stupid. So much queer representation in media centers around people who are witty and can form a sentence. Pride can be especially difficult. Everywhere I turn, someone is interpreting something

or putting things into historical context. For years, I nodded along, afraid to speak up, but I am tired of hiding. Stupid is beautiful. Words don't mean anything. Ads are bae. Katy Perry is good. Ads are bae.

I am here, I am queer queer I am a fucking idiot and I am never hiding again rainbow emoji wow at George Severus please follow him C-I-V-E-R-I-S at Zerbe

at Zerbe Katy Perry's good Lacey where can people find you? okay before I tell you where you can find me jack shamed me at the beginning i'm so sorry for not having an aka and i'm gonna do an aka now it worked okay here we go

near far whoever you are i'll receive all your wallets With con Once more You open the door For mostly the scam artist My con will go on forever There you go. Little pitchy.

Little pitchy. It was a little pitchy. It was. It was. That was Randy Jack singer after all this? That was... Good lord. It was pitchy, okay?

I wasn't ready to sing Celine Dion. Lacey, I am just joking. That was beautiful. It was pitchy. It's fine. Randy Jack O'Brien. You guys know I can sing. Randy Jack O'Brien.

That was from Trite Gang from just TDCAK. So thank you, Trite Gang. I love you guys. Where can you find me? You can find me on all platforms at D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I Diva Lacey. That's on Instagram.

That's on the Twitters and all the other places and the like. Guys, July 10th. I'll be here probably more to promote this like guys July 10th I'll be here probably more to promote this but July 10th on Pop TV if you love Schitt's Creek

you should start watching Florida Girls I am a lead on that show and it's very fun and very crazy you can always see me at UCB if you live in LA

on the Herald team Leroy and the Mod team Donatella oh wait if you're in New York on Sunday, you should come to ASCAP 3000 at 7.30

because I'll be doing the model. Yes, you better go, girl. Also, Scam Goddess is coming out, guys. I swear to God, please stop getting mad at me on the Scam Goddess Instagram. I will have updates for you, I think, at the end of this week. All right.

And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Yes, tweets that I have been enjoying. Okay, here's one. You can't call me daddy and expect me to disappear after you block me. I'm no deadbeat. I'll see you tomorrow. And then this one was kind of mean, but it was also still kind of funny. Forrest Whitaker files for divorce from his wife, Keisha Nash, after 22 years.

And then someone tweeted, you know, he's always had a wandering eye. That's horrible. But that was Mblocku, Rodimus Plime on Twitter. And then the first tweet was from Regal Cordier 7. Wow. Teresa Lee tweeted, teenagers, a group of them are caught on camera, but what do they want? A real newscaster on local news just now.

And Super Producer Anna Hosnier tweeted, one time I was on the toilet for so long that my foot fell asleep and I had to crawl out of the bathroom. That has happened to me too. I didn't know that was a thing. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.

We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Wow. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on. Anna Hosniak, what song are we going to ride out on anna hosnier what song are we gonna ride out on today

hey ladies it's anna um i'm gonna recommend a song by my favorite uh artist of all time her name is senti gold and this song is off her new album um the gold fire series i don't want it's called valley of the Dolls and it is so fun it's like a little pop kind of reggae drum and beat there's so much going on and it's so fun and you know later you can check me out on Lacey's Instagram

story so yeah check it out Santa Gold Valley of the Dolls cool Keanu crop top it's so good producer Anna has a young Keanu crop top it's so good yes your producer on a husband has a young kianu crop top why are you trying to shade wow no no no i know no the claws are out like because you're saying he don't look like that no more you're like oh a young kianu well he certainly doesn't look like that and then he You're like, oh, a young Keanu Reeves. Well, he certainly doesn't look like that anymore.

And then he stomped out of the room. That's just such a Keanu bitch. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. Everybody quiet. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. We don't care. That's going to do it for today. We're going to ride out on that song by Santa Gold. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. And we will talk to you then. Bye. Bye.

Bye. Watch your mouth open in the valley of dolls Baby, look at me with the pom-poms Check them out, make it like me I'm in the valley of dolls I'm not half that star But I got more stats Cause I, I just know where to go You know where you are now You know where you are

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