The Daily Zeitgeist - Avengers Trendgame 2/6: The Rolling Stones, NBA, Snoop Dogg, Even Flow

Episode Date: February 7, 2020

On this edition of Avengers Trendgame Jack and Miles discuss The Rolling Stones going back on tour, the NBA is in a trade frenzy, Snoop adds his 2 cents to the discussion of sexual assault, booster se...at manufacturer Even Flow is making whack products.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:17 Hello, the internet, and welcome to this very special episode of Avengers Trend Game. Oh, yeah. That is courtesy of someone whose name you just told me to remember and I forgot it already. Dude, it was Gabe. Obviously. What's up, Gabe? Shout out to you, Gabriel
Starting point is 00:02:35 at Bold as Bronze. You said it, not me. Wow, look at you. Let's talk about what's trending this fine Thursday afternoon. Yeah. I mean, the thing that all the kids are talking about, the Rolling Stones tour 2020, baby. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Apparently, it's a continuation of last year's No Filter tour. Right. Okay. And that's about it. I think the big news that came out is apparently Keith Richards has said he has given up smoking since October. Wow. I wonder if that'll affect his playing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Right. I mean, I'm worried because I feel like he's one of those people who lives off of the abuse they do to their body. His body is in some sort of weird abuse equilibrium. Right. Where if that ends, the whole system is thrown into disarray, chaos, and then the real health issues begin. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I could see that. Shouts out to him. A real one. His book was pretty good. Yeah. I mean, I didn't realize how long he's been basically mostly clean. Yeah. Like no boozeze he calls today's
Starting point is 00:03:47 drugs not interesting is that true shout out to a fucking god uh i don't wait does he just do heroin now he says his only remaining vices rock and roll and the occasional Pinot Grigio. Pinot Grigio. I don't know why I'm talking like that. Is it him or what's his face? The other guy, Ronnie Wood. Ronnie Wood. I believe he is the first member of his family that was born on dry land. Really? Yeah, he comes from-
Starting point is 00:04:23 Seafaring folk? Yeah, they live on the river or something like that. I just feel like there's this he's like comes from like seafaring folk yeah like they live on the river or something like that i just feel like there's this weird on the river yeah man what it's him or richards personal life yeah he's born into a family of quote english water gypsies probably a problematic term uh not probably is. And he has said that his generation was the first in the family to be born on dry land. Shout out to him. Shout out to a dry land God. There was a time, like probably 10, 15 years ago
Starting point is 00:04:56 when people were like, the only people who sell tickets for live music are old people who are dying and not really making interesting music anymore, like the Rolling Stones and Bruce Springsteen and stuff. Is that still true or are there like younger musicians and artists who are like selling out tickets? Jack, we're all looking around the room in disbelief.
Starting point is 00:05:21 What do you mean? Are there still people who are selling massive amounts of tickets? Yeah. Like Taylor Swift? I guess Beyonce, Taylor Swift. Yeah, there's plenty of people. Yeah. That was like conventional wisdom for a while there.
Starting point is 00:05:33 When in the 80s? These young kids, yeah. I don't see Cameo selling out the garden. That's right. That's right. I guess Kanye. I do feel like Kanye. I saw Kanye during graduation,
Starting point is 00:05:48 or no, not graduation. Late registration? Late registration. And it was just like, it was a small theater like underneath Madison Square Garden. Oh, one of those? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:00 What's that theater for? I feel like he really like put it together in terms of turned around. Suddenly had a fake mountain. They still call it Madison square garden. It's just a, you go and it's not the Madison square garden. That's a fucking weird number. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Yeah. I saw him at the house of blues when he was doing college dropout. Oh really? He used to still rock the backpack. Yeah. Uh, I remember that. Uh,
Starting point is 00:06:24 let's talk about NBAba trades that was that's every trend that's basically it yeah we got uh andre drumming going to the calves don't care don't care i'm more upset i don't i don't know why the lakers didn't really do anything didn't do anything sixers didn't do much either they got two youngins from the Warriors. I think the best thing was the talk about J.R. Smith having a workout with the Lakers and all the meme responses that came out of Twitter. To me, that was the highlight of this entire trend of the NBA deadline. Yeah. That and then also hearing Darren Collison was talked about. Oh, man. The Clippers got better as if they needed more depth.
Starting point is 00:07:06 They now have Marcus Morris. That's why I'm mad. Yeah. They're like looking at it like, hey, we're trying to win something. We want to be serious. I mean, I don't look. I don't think it's right for me to assume that the Lakers should be in contention just like that. I mean, I think.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Oh, they should definitely be. They should be. But I mean, like, rather than having the attitude,'m like this is where we gotta be rather than being like okay let's right let me give myself a second rather than expecting the most right away when you look at that it's like what are the intentions yeah maybe we're looking at the summer who knows uh the knicks were apparently demanding coups danny green danny green and another piece in return for Marcus Moore? Yeah. That's too much. And then look what they got from the Clippers. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Like, what happened there? Huh. Yeah. Not good value there. Maybe the Clippers front office. Pretty smart. Yeah. Which, that's what people have been saying for a while.
Starting point is 00:07:59 That's not just a new observation on my part. New hot take. I think the Clippers front office, they got it together a little bit. Pretty smart. So we'll see if they're able to put it together. Snoop v. Gale. Gale King. In an interview with Lisa Leslie, brought up the rape allegations against Kobe in 2003, 2004.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Right. the rape allegations against kobe in 2003 2004 right um and that became everyone was like from why is she bringing that up to i didn't want that in my piece like this it caused a lot the reason though it's probably gotten most uh discussion is because snoop decided to enter the the whole thing and was kind of basically like why are you bringing this up he can't defend himself also free bill cosby yeah which is kind of it's usually snoop you bringing this up? He can't defend himself. Also, free Bill Cosby. Yeah. Which is kind of, it's usually Snoop and Bill Cosby that are trending right now because he said free Bill Cosby.
Starting point is 00:08:50 And most people are like, whoa, whoa, whoa. The point you're making is actually completely negated when you say free Bill Cosby. Yeah, that pretty much, I mean, any point that you can possibly make is negated if you end it with and free bill cosby the only time i think the words free bill cosby makes sense if is if we change the word money to bill cosby and then you'd be like hey free bill cosby over here free money but yeah uh you know it's it's i think bernie would lose new hampshire if he went out in front of his supporters
Starting point is 00:09:25 and ended the speech free Bill Cosby I think people would be like that could be the one thing Trump can't say right I think he should try that that would be amazing if suddenly they're like that was the one too far a lot of people were like
Starting point is 00:09:41 it's really ironic that rappers are defending Bill Cosby when he couldn't give a fuck about them. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Bill Cosby was all about, you know, look people in the eye and which Snoop wasn't good at in his first music videos. But just very, very much like you got to be an upstanding young man. And pull your pants up. Pull your pants up.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Mm-hmm. Shake my hand. Give me a firm handshake. Yeah, Snoop. That's your problem.. Pull your pants up. Shake my hand. Give me a firm handshake. Yeah, Snoop. That's your problem. When he was young Calvin Brodus. Yeah. He was just, you know, he was figuring it out.
Starting point is 00:10:11 That was dope though. He made not being able to make eye contact cool. Oh, wow. For those of us who had social anxiety, I was like, see? He can't look it. The first time I met you, I asked Her Majesty, I was like, does Jack jack will he do like an optic blast out of his eyes if he looks at someone too long that's what i thought i was like he's just trying to say keep me safe nah man uh even flow what it's a name of a children's booster seat manufacturer. Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Yeah, they... So ProPublica came out with an investigative piece that essentially shows that the company who sells, you know, one of the largest sellers of child booster seats for, you know, child safety in your car, they were told by one of their safety engineers to make a change that they stop selling the booster seat for kids who weigh less than 40 pounds. Right, which is a lot of kids. Yeah, and they said that it would be safer for these children who are under 40 pounds that they use harnesses to hold their bodies in place.
Starting point is 00:11:17 So they would have to change how they manufacture the seat. Right, and that would have been unprofitable. Apparently. So the marketing executive, a marketing executive. That's who you want in charge of your engineering. And ProPublica has all these receipts. When the subject came up again in that same year where it was vetoed, that same executive was then by that time had been promoted to VP of marketing and product development and said in this email, quote, why are we even talking about this? I have looked at 40 pounds,
Starting point is 00:11:54 meaning that seat, for the US numerous times and will not approve this. Wow. Yeah. I mean, this is your worst nightmare as a parent your worst nightmare as you are like installing a car seat putting it together reading through the manual your worst nightmare is that there is a corporation out there that is just like you know well we could include this piece but it would cost us you know 10 extra dollars per. So we're not going to do that. And, you know, we'll take whatever hit it costs us. In the class action lawsuits. In the class action lawsuits. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:31 And like the real thing is what's damning too, is they also have these test videos showing in like these side impact collisions, especially side impact collisions, a child with those dimensions was like flopping around. Like if you saw it, you'd be like, there's no way I want my kid looking like that unless he's doing a freeze in a B-boy competition. But if it's a car accident, absolutely not. I'm looking at one of them.
Starting point is 00:12:59 It looks like a sick head stall. It does look like a head stall. But apparently, according to their internal safety testing, they would only mark an impact as a fail if the seat itself broke apart or the dummy left the confines of the seat. Anything else was like, yeah, that's a win. That's a dub. If we can't find the dummy within 30 seconds after the test,
Starting point is 00:13:20 then it's a failure. 30-second rule. Yeah, exactly. And that's just, yeah, it's a really dark story because many, there are many injuries caused and people are being like, the whole thing stems from these greedy assholes. Right. We have the receipts. This guy is saying, no, I'm not going to do that.
Starting point is 00:13:38 That would not, that would cost too much money. And then the legal, like their legal representation is like come on how do you know that this isn't happening with other manufacturers of these same products and it's like that is beside the point like that the the fact that it's happening with yours like is shocking and horrifying it if it's happening with others that's great that we're learning this about you guys and maybe we can like stop it from happening with others and you but like to to be like yeah but your standards are generally pretty low for this sort of thing so really it's your fault yeah it's not the answer it's unbelievable saying this is one of the things their legal counsel said when they were asked
Starting point is 00:14:20 to respond directly to some questions no child restraint or booster seat can ensure that a child will not be injured in a car crash, especially a severe one. Just like no vehicle manufacturer can ensure that all occupants will escape injury in every crash. Right. Okay. And then it says none of the questions or criticisms you lodge have been raised by the NHTSA, the National Highway Transportation Safety Authority, i believe administration uh at any time in addition many of the issues you raise could be applicable to the millions of belt positioning booster seats sold by other manufacturers it's just like the slipperiest bullshit yeah and this is the kind of shit too when like we talk about what's at stake in the
Starting point is 00:14:59 election and things like that you want leadership in this country who could look at this and be like i will fucking destroy your company. You're putting people at risk to save money. Why? So this VP of marketing can be like, hey man, look at this surplus we got. Can I turn that into a bonus or can I ask for more budget next year,
Starting point is 00:15:16 which is also my... It's just so fucking cynical. And look, I don't even have children. I've hooked the homies up and put their kids in car seats before. I'm always like, damn, this is supposed to help them out? Y'all are just putting all your hope in this. Wait, you help people out by putting their kids in car seats?
Starting point is 00:15:31 Yeah, I'm like, hey, man, you need help putting your kid in a car seat? Oh, I see what you're saying. I thought you meant like, can I get you in this car seat, man? Oh, like hooking them up? What would it take for me to? Hey, man, what are your payments on that car seat right now? Oh, you're upside down on that thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Yeah. No, like all my friends with kids like yeah give my extra hand and like whenever i see it they look i remember the shits like we were in or what i remember as a young child seeing like a baby seat i'm sure it's much better now but i remember back then it was just like rigid plastic with some foam by the head yeah yeah hey we made it yeah uh all right guys that's gonna do it for this afternoon. We'll be back tomorrow with another podcast. We'll talk to you then.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Bye. Bye. There's so much beauty in Mexican culture, like mariachis, delicious cuisine, and even lucha libre. Join us for the new podcast, Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar,
Starting point is 00:16:35 emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. In California during the summer of 1975, within the span of 17 days and less than 90 miles, two women did something no other woman had done before, try to assassinate the President of the United States. One was the protege of Charles Manson.
Starting point is 00:16:59 26-year-old Lynette Fromm, nickname Squeaky. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer, this season on the new podcast, Rip Current. Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeartTrue Crime Plus, only on Apple Podcasts. MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season. Only on Apple Podcasts. And we're here to take you behind the scenes of the Challenge 40, Battle of the Eras. Join us as we break down each episode, interview challengers, and take you behind the scenes of this iconic season. Listen to MTV's official Challenge podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I'm Dr. Laurie Santos, host of the Happiness Lab podcast. As the U.S. elections approach, it can feel like we're angrier and more divided than ever. But in a new, hopeful season of my podcast, I'll share what the science really shows, that we're surprisingly more united than most people think. We all know something is wrong in our culture, in our politics, and that we need to do better and that we can do better. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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