The Daily Zeitgeist - Awww Late Stage Capitalism, Long Live The Queen 8.16.18

Episode Date: August 16, 2018

In episode 213, Jack and Miles are joined by writer Amy Lam to discuss the legend Aretha Franklin, the new film Crazy Rich Asians, Jason Kessler being humiliated by his father, Alex Jones and InfoWars holding strong, how #MeToo comebacks may be here soon, heartwarming stories that are a disguise for late-stage capitalism, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. Aretha Franklin, the ‘Queen of Soul,’ Dies at 762. WATCH: Aretha Franklin - Don't Play That Song You Lied3. Crazy Rich Asians isn’t about money, it’s about entitlement—and that’s a good thing4. The organizer of the Charlottesville rally just got humiliated by his own father5. Bans don’t seem to be lessening reach of Alex Jones, InfoWars6. Les Moonves and CBS Face Allegations of Sexual Misconduct7. When Is Time Really Up? #MeToo Movement Grapples With Paths to Redemption8. Men "Brought Down" by the #MeToo Movement Are Back9. Charlie Rose Will Reportedly Host a Show About Men Brought Down by #MeToo10. Matt Lauer still has ties at NBC News, where colleagues believe a professional comeback is possible11. Casey Affleck’s Dark Secret: The Disturbing Allegations Against the Oscar Hopeful12. FX boss on how Louis C.K. could return to TV13. The Redemption Narrative in the 2017 Oscar Nominations14. Mel Gibson has set the blueprint for a #MeToo comeback. Expect other men to follow it.15. Where are they now? Why 'sh---- media men' keep getting second chances16. Donating vacation time to new moms is a trendy co-worker baby shower gift17. I'm Insanely Jealous of Sweden's Work-Family Policies. You Should Be, Too.18. Trump's military parade is now estimated to cost $92 million – $80 million more than earlier estimate19. WATCH: Aretha Franklin- I Never Loved A Man (Demo Version) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 44, Episode 4 of The Daily Zeitgeist. wherever you get your podcasts. to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. I would swallow my pride. I would choke on the zeit. But the jack thereof would leave me empty, O'Brien. Swallow my doubt. Turn it inside out. Miles nothing but Gray thin, nothing hard in a blow cave. That is from Chapman Rice coming with the heavy heat on that one. She back. So, yeah.

And in our third seat, we have the contributing editor and co-host of the Backtalk podcast, Bitch Media. I'm so excited to have back the brilliant writer, Amy Lam. Hi. Hi. Hey, I have a singing thing. Oh, hit me with it. Yes. Do it, do it.

If you will. If I may. Yes. She dreams in color. She dreams in red. Can't find Amy Lam. Nice. There we go. Can't find Amy Lamb. Can't find Amy Lamb.

I went to college with named Zach Bitterman and we used to sing, can't find Zach Bitterman. But I like Amy Lamb too. That works very well. Well, Amy, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment, but first we're going to tell our listeners what they're in store for. We're going to talk about Aretha Franklin.lin we are gonna talk about crazy rich asians which is opening today or open last night uh we're gonna check in with jason kessler see what he's up to

following the sort of fizzling out of the unite the right to rally we are going to check in with alex jones because people are still telling us that the Facebook ban hasn't slowed him down. He's still just as important as he's always been. We are going to look at how post-MeToo comebacks might happen. Then we're going to check in with some heartwarming stories that you usually hear on the news in America today that are actually a disguise for just late stage capitalism horror shows. And we'll also just check in with the Catholic Church, which I think everything's good there, right? Everything's going well. But first, Amy, we like to ask our guest,

what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? So recently I was hanging out with my partner and his family and I guess they do like a family thing now recently where they work on crossword puzzles together because they're so hard. Wow, wait, group crossword puzzles? Yeah, well, like the ones in the paper. I mean, I can't do them.

Yeah, the New York Times one, I just literally can't. And so there was a clue and then the clue was jeers and then they were able to figure out the answer because they got all the other ones around it. The word was hootset. And I was like, what the fuck is a hootset? Hootset? Yeah.

And I Googled hootset. And I was like, what is this? Because the clue was jeers. And then I Googled it and I found nothing, like H-O-O-T-S-A-T. And then I was like, oh, it's hoots space at. Hootset. But we really spent 20 minutes like, what's a hoots space at? At. Hoots at. But we really spent 20 minutes like, what's a hoots at? What's a hoots at?

Well, I'm using it. I'm adopting that into my vocabulary anymore. Watch out for the hoots ats, guys. Hey, kids, put your coats on. Hoots ats out. What is something you think is overrated? Pretty cool. Loofahs?

That's pretty cool. Loofahs? Yeah. Just in general? Say lupus? Loofahs. Oh, my bad. Loofahs. lufa lupus can't slow me down slow me down uh just uh the exfoliating kind the what are we talking all the way lufas are

overrated yeah they're all right i just don't get that i mean i think i have like an unconventional history with bathing so that is a dope way to describe how I bathed in junior high. Yeah. Like a non-traditional bathing history. So lupus just kind of like grossed me out. They're just like these physical manifestations of like asterisks that have like bacteria all in them. I just don't fuck with them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That there's, I don't know. Well, you gotta throw those shits out pretty quick. If they told me that they were made of some sort of antimicrobial, like, you know, synthetic thing, I would be cool with it. But, yeah, they're just, like, scrunched up folds that could just be full of bacteria. Yeah, it's a bacteria promoting Wonderland.

Which, so are sponges. Wait, are we talking about, like, a shower puff or, like, a loof, like a proper loofah? Oh, no, like a shower. I'm thinking, like, the 99-cent shower puff. Yeah, yeahof, like a proper loofah? Oh, no, like a shower. I'm thinking like the 99 cent shower puff. Yeah, yeah. You got to rotate the machines. No, I was like at the drugstore the other day and it said like, replace your loofah every 30 days.

And I'm like, this is a scam. I'm like, well, I'm 40 months behind. I know. That's why they're disgusting. I just don't fuck with them. You can't just say, I have an unconventional bathing history and just let that sit there. What is your unconventional bathing history? Well, I think up until I was maybe in junior high, in our family, we didn't use the shower until I started using the shower.

I was like, I'm going to be a rebel. But before that, we would do bucket baths. So we'd have a five- gallon like a random bucket that we got from like i think home depot or some shit and so you fill it with warm water and there'd be like a scoop and the scoop was usually like um one of those plastic containers that you used to hold coins from like vegas you know like if you're playing with those buckets yeah it's like bigger than a cup a little bit wider than a cup yeah like a big gulpy size so then we so you and then we have a washcloth in it.

So you like squat with like the bucket in between your legs. And then you just kind of like pour the water on yourself. And this is like, yeah. It's very like Old West. Yeah, I don't know what it was. In Old West. It's like Japanese style too. You don't shower necessarily.

Like we have a bucket and like ladling strategy too. And so it was like, I guess the water seemingly. But I think this is how my parents grew up bathing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. So we just did it. And then when I was like, I watched enough TV, I'm like, oh my God,

there's literally a shower head in here. So why don't we use it? And then even when I was using, like bathing that way then, I didn't use soap and it wasn't until I was like in my mid twenties that I started using soap to bathe. And what do you think of soap?

So you're just rinsing off your body? Yeah, I was just rinsing. And I didn't smell. I didn't have like BO or whatever. And it wasn't until I lived in China. I was like, it must have been a diet I was eating, but I was like starting to have BO.

I'm like, oh my God, guys, I need to use soap. Because like all of my people who I was living in China with were like, yo, like you don't use soap. Like what the fuck? Because I was also sweating profusely

a lot because I was really humid. So then I started using, I'm like, wow, guys, I can use soap. So now I'm started using, I'm like, wow guys, I can use soap. So now I'm just like, I'm a soap shower, I don't even use washcloths. So I'm like pretty bare minimum

with my baby. Gotta have a washcloth. Yeah, I just don't, I don't think, I used to use a washcloth when I was a kid, but like,

I just don't. So I'm not exfoliating enough. Oh yeah. That's my issue. Oh man, like my boys have this Japanese like fabric thing that was like an

exfoliating rag right yo you scrub the shit out of your skin so this shit was red right and you know all the dead skin will come off and then also my dad's side too black people use the washcloth right so i was getting it all kinds of ways but i'm the same way i was raised in a bathtub basically yeah that it wasn't so i was in about junior high that i was like yo man i can't be like this 14 year old thing my mom coming in i'm like looking at my little sad pubic hairs coming out I'm like yo this is not the wave anymore like I need to shower in shame by myself and as a white I spent my youth uh just rubbing bars of soap on my body just taping irish spring to your body uh Amy what's something that's underrated? The mute button

on social media stuff, like on Twitter and stuff. I didn't know there was a mute on Instagram until recently. Oh, there is? Yes, right. It just came. It was just incorporated. Breaking. Breaking news. Mute the haters on IG.

I don't get that many trolls or whatever on Twitter, but I actually, because, you know, I've been on the show once like a while ago and I think I got some followers from that. And I think one of your listeners like got upset with me because I was talking some shit about white men. So then I was like, I was like, I'm going to mute him because I don't know where else he would have followed me from.

You never do anything wrong. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Anything wrong. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, I also,

mute is just useful on Instagram for a number of reasons. There are some people who just post too much, I think. I'm not looking at you because you're one of those people. I barely post it on Instagram. Yeah, you rarely post, but there are some people

who just are like, I'm gonna start. Yeah. It's good for interpersonal reasons. Yes. It's great for so many reasons. And it's actually a great tool against a troll because they still think they're talking to you and they are in an echo chamber, a vacuum by themselves. And they're like, yeah, I'll show them.

You're like, bruh, you on mute? I don't know her. It is wonderful on Twitter. You can even just mute people when you get the sense that there's like something even a little passive aggressive even if they're like being surface level nice. It's like I could see this going in a negative direction. So you're going to be talking to

yourself for the next five years. What is a myth? Amy, finally, what is a thing that people think is true that you know to be false? I think there's like a proliferation of like cooking things and shows and stuff like that or like cooking content yes or like get your own subscription box to cook things etc but i just i i think there's this myth around like how cooking is like healing and self

care etc etc but i think cooking is the worst it's the boringest shit yeah like i love eating i will eat day and night but but I just think cooking is so boring and I think it's a myth that's like trying to seduce us into this idea that like, we need to like stand around

and like peel shit for three hours. That's how I feel about a job. You know what I mean? I fuck with the paycheck. When that's on me, yeah, the work,

you can miss me with that shit. It's about every time I ask Miles. Yeah. I'm like, bro, what day is it? Is it the second Friday? No, I'm good.

Just use a voice machine to talk. But yeah, I think it all depends on how you're wired too. Because some people like the focus. But Her Majesty, my partner, it's not as like an exhilarating event. No. Loves the end product in between. It's stressful for her sometimes yeah i don't know i think in the beginning when i started cooking it was very

frustrating because my knife skills were fucked up it took me 10 years to just do the simplest shit and then once you get the groove going yeah but you are somebody who gets something out of cooking and i agree it's not treated as a subjective thing it's treated as like well this is something like breathing back and yeah it's like breathing it's like a unimportant part of the human experience It's not treated as a subjective thing. It's treated as like, well, this is something that goes back. Yeah, it's like breathing. It's like an important part of the human experience that we all must enjoy. And I'm a person like you. I don't like cooking.

It takes me forever. Is it so it's frustrating for you? It's just like I get distracted. I get so bored by it that I just, it takes me a long time. It's so boring. I to like be like reading something or listening to something and then like yeah isn't that why people say like shit tastes better when you don't cook it right it all i've heard the opposite it all depends i don't care i agree i agree with that sometimes because you may end up using the same flavor profiles a lot so in that

way it can be like that just try fucking some different ingredients from time to time and that's when usually when i'm like oh shit i made this well no so here's the thing for lazy cookers like myself and still eating good is that like i've hacked it because well i think there you need to have one thing that's really good if you're not like a somebody who's into cooking is that you need to be like a habitual eater because i will eat the same shit all the time and like love it. Yeah. Okay. So like I really fuck with like, you know,

dry noodle packets, ramen packets, and then you add like different veggies or different proteins to it. And it's super easy. You just like take it out of the fridge, you chop it up and boil it. So that's my hack.

It's like, and also you can get like bouillons for like broth or like ramen broth. Yeah. And so that's just, that's just way easy and it literally takes less than 10 minutes. And then you lower your bar because you're like,

this is easy and I love that. And I literally only eat noodle soup when I'm alone. That's why, I mean, last time I was here I talked about how I was dehydrated. I thought about it and I'm like, man, I eat so much noodle soup. I don't think I'm that dehydrated. All that salt in it though too.

I know, it helps me retain my water. Why are you talking shit? Or pickling your insides. That's the thing I think people also disregard is how much water we get in our diet. They think you need to get nine glasses of pure water, and it's like, no, you get most of that from your diet. I get all that.

From your noodle soup. From your drink, just cracking a 40, a steel reserve to 11. I think things taste better if I make them, and they're super easy, like you're saying. Like toast. Yeah, toast. Cereal. No, I used to just eat when I was single, and in my 20s, I would make macaroni with just crushed tomatoes over it.

I've tried it recently, and it's not that good, but because was like so easy and just out of necessity i was like man this is really good i just convinced myself i ate that every night for like my meals yeah i had a lot of tuna helper in college yeah tuna helpers this shit uh all right guys let's get into the stories of today uh unfortunately the queen is dead long live the queen aretha franklin passed yeah uh one of the great artists of our lifetime I went into a k-hole this morning I was supposed to be here a little bit earlier but I woke up I found a Aretha had passed away and I was I mean earlier this week they're like she's in grave condition or whatever but my goodness Aretha Franklin's importance to music cannot be underlined enough like

she is truly one of the greats when it comes to music that was made in the 20th century. You know, she really brought the sacred sound to the secular world, the gospel sound, the soul sound, and made that accessible for many people. Before it was very abstract or just, it was othered. It was like, okay, that's, especially from a marketing standpoint, they'd be like, you know, that people of color listen to soul music, that kind of music. We can't really mainstream that. And, you know, you can see in her career, she was on Columbia Records very early on and had marginal success. But she was singing like jazz standards and pop songs and things like that.

And they weren't tapping into her background as a powerful gospel singer. And the second, Jerry Wexler from Atlantic Records signed her, got her to Muscle Shoals, said, the first song I want you to do is a blues song, because she had not done that in her previous recordings. She sat down, hit one chord, and everyone in the room goes, okay, I don't know what that was right there, but this is going to be the song. And lo and behold, it was I Never Loved a Man the Way I Loved You, and that was her first huge hit. And, I mean, yeah, read as much as you can about this woman because from her work just even doing good for civil rights and equality and things like that to her music and just the evolution of hearing gospel music,

I mean, there were people like Mahalia Jackson who were very talented, amazing gospel singers who didn't quite cross over because, you know, the world wasn't ready but reetha blew it open for everybody else and that soul sound my goodness hats off to you or the hat as anna hosnier says refers to the hat she wore at obama's inauguration which is an amazing work of like almost surreal art nearly a fascinator. Yeah. Between fascinator and hat. And just, it's a bow

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during the holidays. Yeah. And just to producer Nick Stumpf who's a musician was pointing out just what an amazing piano player

she is. There's a video we'll post in the footnotes where we link off to where she's playing the piano on a live appearance and singing. It's pretty incredible. She showed the world what the soul sound can do. And yeah, thank you, Aretha Franklin.

You guys, Crazy Rich Asians, I think, opened last night and is opening over the course of this coming weekend. It's getting really solid reviews. I'm excited Constance Wu is the lead. I feel like her performance as the mom on Fresh Off the Boat is, I don't know, it reminds me of what a lot of Asian Americans I know say they love and respect about their own moms. She's unapologetic and strong.

I read one person talk about the moment in the Crazy Rich Asians trailer where she laughs and she laughs hard and loud and doesn't cover her mouth. And they were like, that act is not normal for an Asian character in a Western movie. I'm seeing it tonight. Yeah, that's dope. I happens how was it it was fine yeah that's what I'm that's what I'm thinking too I think it's more about the representation than the film itself yeah but it was a fine rom-com yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean like there's something about like where I am in my media consumption but I'm just like oh this is something about, like, where I am in my media consumption, but I'm just like, oh, this is nice that, like, now we're doing, like, a rom-com with a majority Asian cast or, like, entirely Asian cast.

But it's, like, it still felt, like, weird. I don't know how to explain it. Like, so I went with my brother, my younger brother. I have two younger brothers. I went with one of them. I went with my partner. And my youngest brother was like, man, I've never seen such white Asian people before in my life. Like they're all Asian.

But like because in the film, a lot of them had gone to like prep school in the UK theoretically. Right. So they all have English accents besides like Constance Wu and her mom character. Oh, interesting. So they're all like these colonized Asians speaking like the Queen's English. Right, right. And I mean, it was fun and all,

but like, cause I had read so many like hype tweets beforehand where Asians were like dying over it. They're like, I cried like five minutes in and I couldn't stop crying. And I was like, really? I mean like, and I'm a crier. Am I a bad Asian? Yes, and I'm a super crier.

And I just wasn't like feeling it on that level. And I don't know if it's cause I went in with some other feelings, but I definitely understand like representation matters. Cause it's like, that's like a first step towards, you know, wider acceptance,

et cetera, et cetera, whatever. Yeah. And I'm not trying to say like this movie needs to do a lot of work. Cause it's just as one movie. And I think the problem is that like, there hasn't been movies like this,

but in a way there have been movies like this, right? Like the namesake, which was about a South Indian family or South Asian families who indian um and then there was like better luck tomorrow which is about a bunch of like suburban like mostly male east asian kids but like there have been movies where they were like majority asian cast but there's something about this movie and how like it's like so capitalisty right how it's being upheld in this very specific way that like kind of fucked that.

I just don't, I don't know. I'm not, I'm not vibing with it and I feel bad. Yeah, well, no,

that's how I was, you know, because I felt like a lot of people from Singapore were definitely vibing because they're like, a lot of the cultural touch points

were very relevant to people in Singapore and I think I'm excited that we're looking at a film like this that's got an Asian cast and we're moving that direction. But yeah, I think it has to be a first step to then begin telling, I think, spreading

the diversity of stories out a bit too from here. I think the first one shouldn't be too bad, but we'll see. I'm gonna go see it tonight. I didn't grow up crazy rich, so I hope from that standpoint, it's not too abstract. But I think at the very least, it's nice to see familiar faces on screen because before that I was... I have a feeling, I was just like, man, of all the feelings that I've been feeling after watching this,

I just feel so fucking poor. That was like my overwhelming feeling. I'm like, I feel so poor, and I feel like I don't have a strong jawline, like my face isn't right, because the Asians in this film also look a very specific way right like the men oh my god like people are like women especially views are like man the female gaze in this film is like so extraordinary but i'm like so what it's just like some packs like i i'm i don't it's just some six packs you know yeah i get it but it's also like well what is this

why are we so into things that we criticize when it's, like, white folks? You know what I'm saying? But then, like, when it's, like, just because it's, like, being embodied by Asian folks and we're, like, all for it. I mean, I want this movie to do well. I want it to, like, fuck up the box office. I heard that it's, like, it's going to do great

and I want it to do well. But I'm just kind of underwhelmed. I mean, by its nature, the whole accomplishment here is that it is a mainstream movie that is going to get wide release and inherently mainstream movies have certain things certain things that go along with them like that every character is good looking and usually like wealthy and yeah uh yeah like better luck Tomorrow is a really good movie but you know I don't know too many people

who saw it but the director of that has gone on to have like a huge amazing career. Well you're going to love my film that's coming out called

Ugly Broke Biracial People. It's going to resonate with people. Awesome. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.

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Something like that. So then his dad just goes on to berate him. He has to get out of the shot, go away from the stream to argue with his dad, who's mad at him for not seeing it. Yeah, this is a very familiar genre of video for me, which is someone being cool on a web stream, and the parent comes in and just like, what are you doing the games in here again right like kind of thing where this one it was like are you doing that nazi crap in here yeah get out of my room dad i'm doing nazi stuff yeah it's so fucking whack dude that i mean i'm not to shame anybody who lives at home there's no right my

issue with this isn't that he lives at home, but this is a man who organized the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville last year. And he's on this fucking live stream bitching about whatever Jews, I guess, in this case. And his dad comes in and clearly is like not happy about what his son has become in some whether he knows or not that his, know believes that his son is a cool nazi or not who knows i mean but he does go on to say like yeah they watch a lot of history channels so you know they've been brainwashed into like you know this nazis are bad thing watch the whole clip because it's cringy to watch this guy like jason kessler try and act as if he can't he just can't say hey my dad's tripping like he goes like, I have an orthodox son. He's trying to talk to his dad, frame him in a weird way.

He wants it to seem like he's more dangerous and more in it than he really is. So he's like, yeah, I actually have an orthodox guy here getting mad. And then he's finally like, yeah, that's my dad. That's my dad. Wait, so he lives at home? Yeah.

He lives at home. And where does he live? What city? I know he's from Charlottesville. So was he organizing a new rally in Charlottesville? He was trying to. Oh, okay. And then it turned into the D.C. thing,

and then that just fizzled out. But, yeah, this is from June, apparently, this interaction from whenever they were streaming to each other. And, you know, he goes on afterwards. He's like, yeah, you know, he's like, well, you know the reason I'm here. Like he eventually has to explain why he's living at home. And like he's blaming it on the fact that people are suing him for the violence of last year's Unite the Right rally where Heather Heyer was killed. So he's trying to act like, you know, they're trying to get, you know, a fucking legal bill.

So that's why I'm here. He calls them cucks at one point his own fucking parents yeah they're letting you live there my man wow and then uh patrick little's like hey i get it man shlomo is trying to probably going to find a way to evict me that's why i'm on my boat right now in case it goes out it's like okay wow so blame everybody except for yourselves because your racism has led you to a point where you are unhirable and even like online like e-commerce sites like paypal or whatever won't let you do business on there because they're not trying to help you get any kind of money from anyone so it's nice to see that there are financial uh repercussions for your you know being an out nazi it just seems really unwise to like call your parents names when they could

easily just find that clip of them, of like you calling them a cock. Like if I was his dad, I'm like, let me Google my stupid son. Let me hit my house. Cause he's such a fucking white supremacist music causing violence. And he calls somebody that I,

let me Google him. And Oh my God, he called me a fucking cock. Like, I'd be like the fuck in the hell like you're using my Wi-Fi to broadcast your stupid videos and you're gonna call like and then he probably has to look up what a cuck

is the dad right and then he's gonna be like he's gonna be a bunch of porno right he's like who's having sex with my wife the hell yeah and then he like brings Jason in to like talk to both him and his wife be like tell him what you call me on your live stream what's going on helen no wait no forget it dad doing that nazi crap but yeah i mean it apparently uh yeah patrick little's been told richard spencer

you know he had to move back home yeah to montana because they just being a nazi isn't a job skill and it actually makes you unhirable so you know reconsider your values or your philosophical uh perspective this makes me sad because now i'm feeling bad for their parents and i don't want to feel bad for their parents to have to like take in their misfit white supremacist sons yeah i mean it's just so i mean he's what an entitled piece of shit yeah that he is too like already like it makes it makes sense sense you would have this mentality of talking shit to your parents that are letting you back in and also being a white supremacist who's blaming everything on everything else. Right.

And just being like, oh, it's Muslims, it's blacks, it's Jews. I could have got a job, but whatever. I don't know. Yeah. He's got a lot to blame on other people because his life isn't going great right now. Yeah, well, I mean, you know, victimhood is their deal. Speaking of right-wing people who are being persecuted, Alex Jones is still banned from all the social media platforms.

That's the globalists! And the right wing is trying to tell themselves that it hasn't hurt him, and in fact, it's helped him because people are going to his website to find him. And we talked about this briefly last week, but actually, there's an article that's been near the top of Drudge for the past week

where they talk about how he can't be stopped. And it's written by these, I see a lot of articles like this in journalism now where they don't really know how web traffic works. They talk about how his website gets 100 million page views in a month. And that's a sign that he's like the biggest thing. That's like a third of what we were getting at Cracked when we were doing well.

No, but like that's. Screw you, racist. It's like not that much. It's like page views is like really easy to exaggerate if you make people like click through to something. Right. And I don't know. It just seems like they're like, see, look at him. He's a dominant cultural force.

And it's like, no, that's not that many page views. Don't you sound like a media organization CEO? Like, that's just not enough. You need to pivot to video, Alex. Alex, that's what I've been telling him. We need videos that scale for half the price. So I should say, I do advise Alex Jones on a few things. Switch to video.

I mean, you got to ask yourself, is this stuff scaling? As we say in the tent biz, the content biz, if it doesn't scale, throw it in the garbage pail. So I can't believe that they're really still trying to act like, oh, don't worry. He's on top, baby. He's in the lab. Don't worry. This man isn't. I mean, just go to his website.

All the nutraceuticals, it's like a fucking fire sale right now. It's like 50 to 40% off all that fish oil, snake oil that he's selling. Yeah, just sleeping giants. Basically putting him out of business. Yeah, and he's good riddance to you guys. Yeah.

So we wanted to talk a little bit about the Me Too movement, Mangazi. Mangazi. Because, I don't know, it seems like we're at a point where things are sort of, the energy behind it

as it relates to the mainstream is sort of waning. Like some information came out about Les Moonves, where people keep quoting the fact that he was forcibly kissing and touching people at work. Right. But the article, if you read the article, it's pretty clear that he harmed people's careers in pretty significant ways because they wouldn't have sex with him in his office. Like, it's really just the most, I mean, not the most reprehensible.

It's like textbook abuse of power. But yeah yeah it's exactly textbook abuse of power and they didn't do shit like CBS is just like yeah but he's you know he's pretty important I think to their defense he's like well the investigation is still ongoing

so we and by that we mean we're just looking at our revenue stream and as long as that is increasing we'll just have to hold our noses and go with this right but yeah that was an interesting moment because six months ago that story for any any other executive would have probably been clearly the company if their values were in line with the rest of the world they'd be like yeah no no we can't have this here right but yeah this was sort of like i think moment too, when we even talked on the show, we're like,

like, what's, are we having a moment here where it's waning? Or is this one of those odd situations where CBS is merely doing it because less Moonves compared to Harvey Weinstein, the crimes may be less severe, but his importance to the business end of the company is too important. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, people, when Harvey Weinstein went down, people were saying, yeah, well, the other reason he went down is because Harvey Weinstein isn't at the peak of his career anymore. He hasn't made that many hits recently. Right. So Les Moonves is maybe a sign of what would have happened if he was at the peak of his career,

because Les Moonves is still churning out those hits for CBS stockholders. And I think if CBS admits that he's done this fucked up shit or that it is as fucked up as we feel it is, then they're complicit because there's no way CBS didn't know. So it is a lot about watching out for

their money. Yeah, 100% because if they're like, whoa, we really, wow, whoa, what's this guy with this moon vest do? We didn't know he was fucking up people's careers because they wouldn't have sex with him. There's no way they didn't know. Oftentimes when we hear about these cases,

it's like we always know that these perpetrators are open secret things and I would not be able to believe that CBS didn't hear murmurings that like he was abusing his power. Yeah. Right. And even in that story, they also talk about how he was also shielding people at CBS News, too, who were engaged in some shit. Yeah. Ronan Farrow does a really good job in the article talking about how a when you have somebody like that at the top, it creates a culture of permissiveness like throughout and they talk about 60 minutes they're like sort of linchpin cbs news program and how there are multiple people

there who have you know just been extremely problematic and to work with and they've just been you know the people who accused them of being inappropriate are the ones who get moved out of the company as opposed to the people who are doing the shitty stuff and then there's also the head of one of their sub networks I think it was I forget which network it was but it was like true or something like that was also really really bad and it was allowed to go on for a long time because that's just a thing. People find shit out when you work at a company

where the number one person is a fucking sexual... Deviant predator. Yeah, sexual predator. And so if they get rid of this Les dude, then they'll have to get rid of all these other people. Well, and it's an interesting thing too because I'm sure if you work at CBS, Les Moonves is probably the person who gave... If you're high up, like if you have a show, you've had to have interacted with them.

And it's I'm sure on some level, people will be like, well, they can protest, too, by saying, like, I don't feel comfortable at this network. If this is true, then this is the person running the company. This is in line with my values that now you have other people facing like other secondary existential crises of like this is the person that did it do we what do we say what do you those are the forces that allow these people to keep on doing what they do because everything is so connected and a lot of the times people's livelihoods depend on it but yeah looking at these list of people who are still talking like they're gonna come back is pretty right pretty interesting so Chris Hardwick did come back he was rehired as the host of the talking dead because nobody else can talk about a dumb show about zombies battling people so you need him I mean that's a one in a million skill so they they brought him back Casey Affleck is currently out there promoting a new movie which but he never fully

faced any kind of reckoning he it just got hot for him right it wasn't like hold on a second we're talking everything just sort of like I think I'm gonna skip all the Oscars because me too shit kind of making it hot that's not like you know it wasn't like a full-on ouster right and he's admitted to contributing to an unprofessional environment. Get the fuck out of here. Which is a pretty gentle way of describing that a woman basically accused him of attempted rape. He grabbed her and tried to scare her

into sharing a hotel room with him. So it's pretty fucked up. The head of FX recently said, man, I really miss Louis, you guys. Yeah. And I don't know. People are pointing to Mel Gibson as a way. I mean, there's also Charlie Rose has been rumored to be making a return with a show where he specifically interviews other men who have been Me Too'd, essentially.

It's called Boo Hoo. Is it called To Catch a Predator? The fuck? Exactly. Matt Lauer apparently thinks he's gonna be able to make a comeback. Did he not even read the stories about him? Right.

About his Dr. Evil lair where he had a trap door and shit? Yeah. I feel like with Matt Lauer, people just, they already didn't like him. People had a sense, you could tell he was a fucking shitty slimy dude. And then once this happened, Matt Lauer would be the one I would be most skeptical

has any chance of making a return. I told somebody about that trap door thing, and they were like, dude, it's just for convenience. You don't want to get up all the time to lock your door. Why are you locking your door all the time? I was like, the fuck? No, this is an evil button. They're like, no, it's a convenience thing, so you don't have to get up.

Because he's like, I'm sure Matt Lauer's office is so big. You have to, like, cross a lot of, like, foot and stuff. Again, what do you need to lock your door for? Were you talking to Les Mendes? Man, when I was a kid, I didn't even have a lock on my door because my parents were like, fuck that. But if I ever had my door closed, it's because I was masturbating or weighing drugs. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was never like, hey, I'm playing. We're doing But if I ever had my door closed, it's because I was masturbating or weighing drugs. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So it's never like, hey, I'm playing. We're doing both, right? Yeah, exactly. I was like, I'm playing Need for Speed, Hot Pursuit. I gotta have the door locked. It was like, nah, man, I'm up to some shit in there. When you have the door locked, unless you're at home and you're doing it for your own protection, you're up to some shit.

Right. So Vox actually wrote an article about how people are using Mel Gibson's return to the mainstream as sort of the roadmap for coming back. And it seems like that makes sense because when you think about it-semitic things and being like horribly abusive to his significant other like on the phone like just a scary motherfucker and so they said like here is what people are probably gonna do first of all they are going to refuse to discuss their past behavior in interviews which is uh what mel gibson basically got away with he just would always be like that's behind us now and then he also got his friends to defend him which is something that we really should not you know stand for anymore but like i think jody foster is like mel gibson's best friend

and was always just like yeah mel is mel is really funny you guys just need to get to know him. And then he waited for a while so that things did like a few smaller movies. And then he reintegrated himself first as a director so we didn't have to like see him. He made that war movie, Hacksaw Ridge. And then eventually, like he got nominated for an Oscar and people saw him at the Oscars and like he laughed at a joke that was made about him, and that was apparently enough.

I remember that preview. It was just the Daddy's Home 2 preview. Right. The trailer's structured where it's not just that he's incidentally appearing in it. It's like we see John Lithgow is revealed as Will Ferrell's dad, and they're really silly. And then there's dramatic tension about who Mark Wahlberg's dad is going to be, and it's revealed in this badass rock video slow motion to be the coolest guy, Mel Gibson.

Yeah. And it's just like, he's back, baby. It was like, what the fuck? I remember when that trailer came out, I think we even talked on the show, we're like, oh, you're back? Right. Somebody let you back in? And they, yeah, they almost leaned into it a little bit in the trailer.

I liked the first one, too. Daddy's Home? It was a sleeper kind of a good movie. I did not realize until, you know, I always check Amazon Prime. I'm like, what do I get with my Prime? That's on my list of movies that super producer Anna Hosnia has said are secretly better. And she's one for one because she told me The House with Will Ferrell and Amy Poehler. That movie is mostly stupid, but it has one moment that made me laugh harder than I've laughed at anything in like a year.

So if people want to know what that is, ask me on Twitter. Ask me on twitter ask me on twitter but yeah i just i the other thing too is i think this tactic of mel gibson being able to not talk about his past that depends on the press not asking him or pressing him enough to make him talk about it right and the other fucking tricky thing is especially in this town publicists are the ones who are going to give you access to these people that are going to give you the access you need to be able to pitch a story or sell your access to make money as a journalist. And if you go in there talking hot and pressing the talent about, you know, their past acts and transgressions, it's a risky move for a journalist.

And I think that's the other thing, too, that we have to kind of realize, like, we have to create space. Like, publicists, they also need to be like,, hey, bro, someone might ask you something like this, and I can't stop that. And maybe you should answer that. But I have a feeling because money runs everything in this town, it'll be easy for people to go in and not talk about anything and not have anyone press them about like, oh, this is a quick comeback for you.

That would be the first. If I saw Louis C.K. back on a show and I was a journalist, first question off the top is, so that was quick coming back? Right. What do you think? What do you attribute this to? Do you feel that you deserve to be back after all that you've done? Look, I'm not here to talk about my past.

Oh, the thing is I'm here because I think it's very relevant to the system that we're operating in because I don't know who the fuck said you should come back. Speaking of systems, I think our new movie really attacks a system. I mean, that's what's so disheartening about like even though Les Moonves isn't going to be like getting any consequences from his actions. It's like even if he did face consequences from his action, he can just come back very easily.

Right. Like with his career intact and still make hella money. Yeah. On, you know, without facing anything like that's like a lifelong consequence. I think that like the fallout with like Benghazi and all these men like, you know, being found out for being the big fucking creepers that they are. Is that like not only it's not just important just to call them out, but to see like what their consequences truly are. Like they're away from the limelight,. Like they're away from the limelight, but like they're away from the limelight sitting on their piles of money that

they made while they were harassing and like, like abusing people. I mean, like if, if I were to be found out to be like a serial predator, but I had made millions of dollars doing it, I'd be like, Oh,

this is a great time for a vacation. Like I actually wanted this break. Now I don't have to like make excuses for why I don't want to do this other movie and then just write it out and then, you know, be like a Mel Gibson and come back and everybody, everybody forget about it. I keep making my truckloads of money because in the end it is just about money and people's jobs. Yeah.

Which is like so fucking disheartening. And it's, I guess it, in a way it's up to like consumers who consume this art to be like, I'm not going to fuck with your art because like I think you're a bad person so you have nothing to come back to but I don't know if as consumers we're at that point yet I mean some of us are like because I think that we talk to each other in this like weird

echo chamber where we're like we mirror each other's thoughts and feelings about this shit so we're not going to fuck with like Louis CK anymore but I think that like the wider WIDER audience will you know he can't i i can totally see him making a comeback and this would just be a blip in his career i think at the very least the studios need to be like for us to allow you to come back in or something give us some kind of an apology that shows some ounce of self-awareness self-reflection that isn't, I'm sorry I contributed to an

unprofessional workplace, like really, really show the world that you understand what you did, why you were operating in that way, and how you're trying to not perpetuate that kind of culture anymore. At the very least, because most of these people, I think that's why Dan Harmon was, people were, it was very easy to look past because like wow this person was very self-aware like I was a fucking like really well thought out inward reflection in that you didn't have to even look past it because it seemed like he was working like he didn't try and skip over it yeah like you could feel like he evolved yeah yeah and I think that's what you need and I and because it's it's dangerous to have a world too where people can't make mistakes and

and then can never recover from that because we have that with our our fucking criminal justice system in this in a sense yeah so i think in some way depending on the severity of what your crimes are transgressions that you that we have you have to show people that you are you're doing something different not just hey i took time out right and. And you saw that quote unquote apology I wrote where I said I refer to my penis as a dick. Right. All right, Louis. Yeah.

Come on. I mean, at the same time, it's one thing to ask me to stop watching Louis, but two broke girls? I mean, come on, guys. Is that him too? No, that's CBS. Yeah, when we want to stop watching Big Bang Theory?

Yeah. I mean, it really is like, what are you about as a society like vote with your behavior you know the cbs stock went down but it didn't go down that far and it's just still at a pretty high level it went down like four points like that's i don't know the the ratings need to go down before the people who actually make those sorts of decisions start worrying about shit yeah because i think the way people right now like seems like racism xenophobia is kind of starting to resonate with people that that's a bad thing because you can tell with people

boycotting advertisers on fox that's been like a pretty focused attempt at correcting behavior through it's so out boycotting it's in yeah it's i mean it's. It's so out right now. And yeah, I mean, fighting racism is so in right now. I mean, it's like the hottest, hottest advocacy right now. But yeah, I think we have yet to reach that moment with the sexual predatory behavior, rape culture, et cetera, where it just hasn't quite reached that tipping point that a much broader group of consumers are saying, yes, we have to reject this and do something about it.

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But it's great to go around the Internet and see stories being shared of coworkers really fighting for each other. And, you know, I was seeing more and more things of you read stories about coworkers like pooling money together to pay for a colleague's medical treatment or donating their vacation days to extend someone's parental leave or maybe end of life care for a parent. And everyone's spinning these these acts of altruism. They're just reaffirm, you know, our faith in humanity. And really, these are fucking heartbreaking stories where these people in our country are being fucking failed by our healthcare system. Our just general system of care in this country is completely broken down. And I mean, I guess, of course, the generosity of someone else would be like, yes, let's put our money together to help this person in need.

Let's put our vacation time together so this woman who's just given birth doesn't have to come back to work after two weeks because you only get paid two weeks off or whatever. The thing I just wish is I wish these stories were presented at an angle of like, we are fucking behind as a country and we're fucking up. Not, oh my God, isn't it so nice that regular people are footing the bill for like wealthy corporations or our fucked tax system? So for example, this was something like a couple weeks ago on Good Morning America. Obviously, you're not going there for like woke commentary or scathing, cutting analysis of our society. But like just the way this story was shared kind of rubbed me a little bit the wrong way.

Out of what new way employees are rallying around their expecting coworkers, helping them take maternity leave by donating their own vacation time love this ABC's Rebecca Jarvis is here with more on that hey there Rebecca hey Robin good morning yeah that's right one in four moms is going back to work just two weeks after giving birth we're the only country in the developed world without a paid family leave policy and now the employees of one company showing some extreme generosity, Angela's boss and co-workers, instead of buying items for her off a registry, gifting their own relatively new co-worker their own time off. It was the right thing to do, and I had the time, and I wanted to give her what I could.

And if it made life a little bit simpler for her, then why wouldn't I do that? I mean, wow. Granted, in the story, they do point out what the deficiencies are in our system that have led to this behavior. But it's still like, isn't this great? Isn't this person so nice and kind? And yes, they are. Yeah, for sure. But it's completely, you're betraying what the facts are.

But it's completely, you're betraying what the facts are. And the facts are that we are not prioritizing this kind of time off or care for our citizens, whether it's, you know, we're the only country where people go into massive debt because they have medical bills. And as I said, it's only us and one other country that doesn't have like mandated paid time off for parents. You know, the other country is Papua New Guinea. Everybody else has this and i mean like our tax system is is built in a way that we're not taxing people to the levels where we can create the revenues to subsidize programs that would be like hey yeah we need to have uh like maybe universal daycare or something so if you

have a child you can still work and have your child taken care of and be able to spend time with them like in sweden they get fucking 16 months of paid leave after birth. That's not even that. Like you posted a chart that shows the number of mandated days off that people have to get. And like Estonia is at the top with 87 weeks of paid leave. Sweden's in the middle. It's below Germany. Yeah.

New Zealand is even above. The only country in the developed world that has zero weeks of mandated paid leave is the United States. Yeah. And it's really frustrating to see because there are only benefits to having this thing, whether it's quality of life for the parents to be around their children when they're at their youngest. There's a lot of studies that show that parents who come back after like a full

on parental leave, come back much more productive and much happier. And the idea that parents have to stress about, oh, you have a new member of your family, and then you're going to just eat two months of your salary because you don't have paid time off is really, really disheartening. your salary because you don't have paid time off is really, really disheartening. And yeah, I mean, like just in other countries too, there's a lot of places that have like subsidized daycare facilities that are open from 6.30 in the morning to 6.30 at night. So you don't have to worry because we've already seen the cost of what childcare even costs for you to have a job and have to have a child being taken care of so you can work. And we've just, we're in a really, really terrible rat race in this country. And I just want to, I just want to bring this up because that fucking tax system reboot rework that happened in December was such a violent redistribution of

wealth that is only contributing to this kind of system where working people are just going to have to work themselves to death and not be able to have any semblance of like a healthy emotionally fulfilling life with their families or just on their own where they can feel that they're taken care of or if they're vulnerable and sick that you're not going to lose everything i don't know if it's so much that work and we're not being taxed enough but like how our taxes are being used right like because we get tons like trillions of dollars are using defense and then like are using like homeland security or using space yeah right it's a set like to do other things so we don't prioritize like our like our our government doesn't prioritize our own care

of our own like our own beings and it's like kind of like the ultimate gaslighting yeah right it's like they made us feel as if we don't deserve this time off so that our coworkers, so that when they do give us their vacation day so we can take a maternity leave, it feels like, wow, we did something good. That's why it's supposed to feel like a feel of good things because we've been taught that we don't deserve it.

Yeah. It's like back to work after two weeks after you've given birth. Sometimes I take a good poop and I have to lay down. You know what I'm saying? I can't imagine like like giving birth and then like having a child ripped out of you and then having to be standing up or going doing anything that doesn't involve laying down yeah after two weeks that's wild to me yeah there's a stigma with getting help you know this country too yeah the things that america lacks and ignores it's really stuff

for like you were talking about like long-term health of our society like just having parents who can spend time with their kids who aren't like completely stressed the fuck out like that's that's just like seemingly minor things that have reverberations like far, far down the road. Or you, everyone has had a stressed parent. And even as a kid, you don't know what exactly is causing your parents stress, but you feel that as a child. And it can create chaos in a house. Yeah, for sure. And it's not even like them expressing.

You just feel that shit like, oh shit, mom or dad is stressed the fuck out. And now I don't, I feel bad because I don't know if it's about me or whatever. And I think, like you said, Amy, we're in that stage of this American empire basically collapsing where we're so focused on everything outside of the country that it's at the detriment to the people within its borders. So again, we look at stock buybacks.

We give tax cuts to these corporations. Oh yeah, we'll give raises. No, we'll just buy back stock to increase the stock price and reward shareholders and things like that. Imagine that money going to subsidizing people's time off, you know, to have time with their parents. And the companies that do actually even subsidize that time off, they're usually in like professional sectors and not really accessible to the general population working workforce out there who would really need it. Not to mention that dumb fucking totalitarian dick measuring contest that he's going to do.

Trump, that military parade, they just released like what the new budget is going to be. It's going to cost $92 million if this happens. If that happens, we're going to spend $92 million to run some tanks through D.C. and somehow and really show the rest of the world how much America's in decline. How big our missile dicks are. Yeah. You have to be so pathologically just unempathetic to not,

like these policies are being made by these people who at least know people, have been in the same household with people who've given childbirth. It is so dramatically like traumatic the like two weeks out your body is still like you should be in a hospital bed like you should not it's the idea of going back to work like after two weeks is completely fucking insane i just i can't imagine these people who are putting this policy into place. Like, are they just like, oh, all right, honey,

well, I'll see you in like three months. Like after you're healed up. Like, I don't understand, unless they just don't think women should be able to work. It's fucking. Well, you know, it's a capitalist patriarchy. Yeah. So, cool.

I mean, it wasn't that long ago that like people literally thought that like women shouldn't walk upstairs. You know what I'm saying? Because like there's the risk of them falling downstairs

and then like their womb would like fall out of them. Right. You know? Or like they shouldn't ride in trains because like going faster than like 50 miles per hour

would like jiggle your womb out. Yeah. And then you would like, and then your body would like combust. I mean, it literally wasn't that long ago so I'm that last one's not true I was not familiar I mean I've ridden in vehicles

traveling faster than 50 miles per hour and your wound didn't come out no I don't think it may have dislodged a little but all right Amy it's been a pleasure having you. Where can people find you, follow you? I'm on Twitter. You're on Twitter? I'm on Twitter. The microblogging site, twitter.com? Yes, at amyadoyzie. That's A-M-Y-A-D-O-Y-Z-I-E. I love that Twitter handle so much.

I welcome all followers, even if you're going to troll me one day. I'll just mute you. It's all good. It's all good. And is there a tweet that you have been enjoying? Oh, so in the publishing lit world, people are sharing their favorite rejection stories. It's lit. It's lit.

So this writer, I don't know him, but his name is Mark Liener, L-E-I-D-N-E-R, M-A-R-K, sorry. M-A-R-K-L-E-I-D-N-E-R. He said that I once rejected my own short story from a magazine I was guest editing. The magazine had a blind submission policy and I didn't recognize the story as my own and forgot I'd submitted it months before I was asked to guest edit the issue. And he has this whole thread about how he read this piece, thought it was garbage. And I actually think this is unethical because he says that he screen screen grabbed a portion of the X of like the submission and like tweeted it being like, look how terrible this writing is. And I was like,

what the fuck? And then it turns out that the passage that he screen grabbed and tweeted was like something that he took from that short story and put in his new novel. And he had to go to his editors and say, you guys like, I need to take this paragraph out of my model because I fucked up. i didn't realize that i was making fun of my own writing oh wow and you guys have to take this paragraph out and his editor was like no this is one of the best paragraphs in your novel and then the best part about this thread is at the very end he talks about how um

the advance that he got in that novel was so much that now he owes the IRS $175,000. I don't know if this thread is real because this seems like really ludicrous. Like I've written terrible hot shit, but like I don't know if I could forget what I wrote in it that I would like screen grab and shame myself. And then owe like almost $200,000. I mean, also, that's a hell of an advance. So I don't know. I don't know this guy, but this is a very amusing thread

that I'm super into right now. That's crazy. For the literati. There's so many crazy stories about people just conveniently forgetting where they found some idea and, you know, stealing it. But a lot of the time,

it does seem like they just don't realize they're doing it. Anyways, Miles. Oh, me. Yes. Oh, you. you miles you can find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray and i'm you know i love the reductor's tweets because this one really got me this was it's a fucking picture of a cobra and it just says woman owns snake for all the snake owning ladies out there but yes you know short and sweet shout out to reductors i like to tweet by aquafina she tweeted buy my tickets to crazy rich asians opening day tomorrow where i will show up at a nondescript theater and recite all my lines at

the screen while eating an entire costco. 25 years, baby. Let's show them how much this matters. Delicious. Costco chicken, man. Impossibly tender. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook

fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We also post those in the description of the episode that's where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we write out on miles what's that gonna be okay because it's you know aretha we gotta play a song i want to play i never loved a man the way i love you but uh the demo version this is, I like this version because it's the moment where they go, yo, okay, Aretha's got it. This is about to be a hit.

This was, you know, really one of her first big hits on Atlantic. And from the second they did the demo, they got this whole thing fucking tracked and put down in 20 minutes. So shout out to you, Aretha. Rest in peace and enjoy this track. I never loved a man the way I love you the demo though, the demo we're gonna ride out on that

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