The Daily Zeitgeist - Baby Jesus = Anti-Choice, Revolving Door Gun Policy 04.17.23

Episode Date: April 17, 2023

In episode 1464, Jack and Miles are joined by actor and comedian behind the new stand-up special Vir Das: Landing, Vir Das, to discuss… GOP Donors Worried About Abortion Boomerang…Lawmakers Pray For A Distraction, ‘Woke Alerts’: The Confusing New Conservative Scam, The Louisville Shooter’s Gun Will Soon Be Auctioned...Because Cops Are Arms Dealers and more! GOP Donors Worried About Abortion Boomerang…Lawmakers Pray For A Distraction Republican Uses ‘Great Replacement’ Theory to Justify Abortion Ban 'Woke Alerts’: The Confusing New Conservative Scam Conservative Group Launches Text Alert System for When Companies Go Woke New Campaign Against 'Woke Companies' Slams Them for Not Being Woke Enough This group is sharpening the GOP attack on ‘woke’ Wall Street Anti-ESG group launches mobile billboard campaign in DC ahead of expected Biden veto The Louisville Shooter’s Gun Will Soon Be Auctioned...Because Cops Are Arms Dealers Mayor says Louisville shooter’s rifle ‘will be back on the streets’ under state law Firing pins and warning labels: How Louisville plans to skirt Kentucky's gun auction law Police in Washington sell seized assault weapons back to the public Should police agencies sell the guns they seize? Georgia sheriff’s office to raffle off a gun a day for charity LISTEN: Boxcutter Emporium Part 3 by SixtooSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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get your podcast presented by elf beauty founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 283 episode one of your daily life guys a production of iheart radio this well this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Monday, April 17th, 2023. Don't know what that is. Don't ask. You know, who knows what day it is. Don't even get me started. It's Monday.

Don't even get me started. It's Monday. And that's plenty. Thank you. Am I right? Yeah. Somebody's got a case of the Monday. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.

Somebody once told me it's all the coal gas study. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Somebody Once Told Me. It's all the coal gas study. You take the guns, there's less holes in heads. That's courtesy of La Caroni. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, a.k.a. What Would You Do If Zyde Baby At Home? Crying all alone on the bedroom floor Cause he wants beats

And the only way to feed him is to Bark like DMX with a little bit of mustard Her majesty's at work Maybe sing some Pac now or some hits from Chi-town Gotta warm my voice now So for you this is just a good time But for me it's the daily Zyte guys Ooh, okay, shout out Lockeroni on that one too

Lockerononi did two got us with two a twofer for the ak's for the cycle baby yep yep yep all right well miles we are thrilled to be joined by a very funny comedian actor whose netflix special virdas landing is out now he's got four of those by the way we're just trying to get one he's got him he's got four of those, by the way, he's got them. He's wearing the four rings. Yeah. The four Netflix special rings like Steph Curry. Please welcome Veer Das. What's up guys?

Wouldn't it be great if I had like a long Hindi song about me and like nobody understood. I would have loved it. Also known as, I just spent five minutes singing in Hindi. Yeah. I would have loved it I mean it would have piqued my interest

just like in that one bit in Landing where you talked about how the difference between American sex and how you have sex and you're like I'm not going to

translate that and I was like I wish I had the translation of what you were saying in that bit but you know I'll leave that

to my imagination well I can give it to you it's basically every time I'm done having sex I'm like may God bless you thank you I hope you come back and if i did anything wrong please forgive me that's it that's basically okay yeah because the beginning was juxtaposing americans are like you

almost i'm about to clap those cheeks you know speaking indian very to clap those yeah it felt very deferential i've never clapped cheeks by way. I've never clapped anybody's cheeks. This is not in my skill set. Just a golf, maybe a light golf clap of cheeks. I always feel like apologizing, but it's good to hear just a really deferential, like, thank you, thank God, thank everything for what has just happened. That is definitely more in line with my energy. I'm going to go with that.

Isn't it nice to just lie naked next to a woman and be like, can we acknowledge that this is a blessing right now? I think that's a good sexual tone. And it was good for you, right? Okay, good. That's a blessing too. Everything's a blessing right now. Thank you so much.

No pressure, no pressure. No pressure, no pressure. All right. We are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment, Veer. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things that we're talking about. We're going to talk about GOP donors being worried about that old abortion boomerang. And their plan, which seems to be pray for a distraction, pray for something terrible to happen that they can run on because this ain't it we'll talk about the woke alerts which is a new conservative strategy that we're seeing

with this like bud light shit but it's basically two sleeping giants the mainstream media into being right wing like being hateful. So it's like an Amber Alert, like a child abduction notice that you get on your phone, except for like this company. Woke alert. They're into equality. Uh oh. Yeah.

Okay. And by the way, I'm not, I would not be surprised to see it work because corporations, not the bravest entities in the world. You'll be surprised to learn. We're going to talk about this policy that I was not aware of that states that when a gun is seized by the police, like for instance, the gun that was used in Monday's mass shooting in Louisville, they have to get that right back out on the streets. There's like a law that says, got to get that out there. We can't hold onto this. It's a hot, it's a hot item. We gotta, we gotta make sure that people have this gun back. So they're already, by the time you hear this, it will have already been sold at auction to a licensed dealer with 20% going to the police department and the rest going to the Kentucky Office of Homeland Security.

Wow. The Kentucky Office of, I don't know, that just did something to my imagination where I was like, yo, what is it like in the Kentucky Office of Homeland Security? I think it's just be like suspicious of every brown person. Every brown person. Enters the state what's this guy who's this guy who's this guy what's this guy who's this guy kentucky homeland guys i'm in kentucky next week are you louisville it's just how good i was gonna say i don't want to be on their watch list so we're gonna we're gonna talk about that plenty more but first

veer we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Two things. I'm actively looking for just sort of jet lag remedies because I've been in like 10 cities and 10 different time zones in the last 15 days. So I'm always like up to this thing on any new jet lag remedy. And the number one thing that I've found, and I can't believe that I haven't tried it in so long. Remember the movie die hard. Oh yeah. Yeah.

Where Bruce Willis is like, yeah. So if you do that on the carpet and if you Google jet lag remedies, that's one of the top things that comes up. So I've tried melatonin, I've tried hydration, I've tried hitting the gym. And I think for the first time in my life, at age 43, I tried the fucking carpet thing.

And it works. It clears your hair. It's clearly like some acupressure shit that's going on. But, you know, well done, Bruce Willis and this old ass movie. Wait, so about how, like, so how long is your bare toe gripping on carpet session to begin to feel the effects? How much work do you have to put into this? I did like 30 seconds or 45 seconds. But when you're jet lagged, there's just like a mental haze around you.

You're not really anywhere. You're not present. And it just kind of clears the haze up. Wow. And then you can decide if you like where you're at. If not, just go back into the haze. I Wow. And then you can decide if you like where you're at. If not, just go back into the haze. I found it useful. Have you tried drinking caffeine

until you hate yourself? Oh, but that's every day. That's any time. Yeah, that's... Yeah. Until you think everybody's talking about you. That's something that I've...

That's interesting. The fist with your toes has been something... I think I've tried it. Was that even what it was supposed to cure in diehard was it jet lag i think it was it was like jet lag and then you you're supposed to kind of curl your toes and rub them against the carpet again and again which you know if you're there's nothing like shitty hotel carpeting you don't know if you're doting the carpet or the carpet's dirtying you when you do that and you know the movie told us what our reaction was going to be because bruce willis wasn't buying that shit and then he does it and then he goes fucking a fist with your toes

yeah yeah also a movie by the way with the cheapest costume budget in the history of movies i think he had no shoes he had one pair of pants and a fucking vest on. Like a wife beater. You call it a wife beater, which is your own issue. No, we've, yeah, as a country, we're moving, or at least we're trying to move back. We're just calling those white under tank tops. The old WB. Yeah.

Which, by the way, sounds like you're trying to come up with a name as you're saying it. White under tank top. Yeah. A ribbed tank top. That's just four different words combined together. Yeah, great. But then they had to save money on budget to put it all into some of the great blood work, you know? Yeah.

Those squibs, shoot, like exploding in that guy's legs oh yeah that blew my mind that that was a movie i saw entirely too young and completely changed my personality i saw that when i was eight and what you like and you wanted to be started smoking a cigarette and just being real cynical about everything shaved in a receding hairline a little bit they look exactly like my boy john mcclain every every girlfriend i got i was i thought we were on the outs i would complain about it's a movie that made you want to smoke ironically i don't want to promote smoking but it's one of those where you were like i like because i i smoked for a long time for 15 years yeah and like i remember that movie and there was another movie called Long Kiss Goodnight.

Yes. With Samuel L. Jackson. Yeah. Where just everybody smoked in every frame of the goddamn movie. And Gina Davis. And it was impossible to watch it without smoking. I just remember there's that one scene where, like, we're just going to aim and spray. And, like, when they got to get out of that hotel, and, like, they fuck up.

And it's just like, fuck it, run for your life. It's one of my favorite lines in that movie. But yeah, he told me the entire noir film genre was like funded by the tobacco industry. Like I'd be on board that nothing looks more beautiful than cigarette smoking in noir films. Yeah. Yeah. I remember even like the broken arrow,

John Travolta's character smokes a cigarette in a really unique way. And that even like, he'd put it in his mouth and he'd do this. And like really wrap his fingers around. And I was like, oh man, I'm smoking my grandma's cigarette butts when I get home. Like to try it out. The hand closing like Scientology around an innocent person. Just kind of slowly tightening their grip until reality is gone With every subsequent

E-reading they do The French inhale that I think it's, is it Delroy Lindo Who does the French inhale in Dead Presidents Was that, like that, now that you're Mentioning it, it's like Smoking in movies is like some of the most Influential shit of my childhood is just

like seeing that and being like that's how i'm gonna smoke oh no that's how i'm gonna smoke so it's probably good that we don't do it anymore but what a glorious time yeah what is something that you think is overrated ice baths i'm just gonna say it all right like because i'm in austin right now every comedian doesn't need to do jujitsu and ice baths just write jokes that's all you need to do also I don't know about you but I like my dick

and I like this ice and I have no interest in destroying it if you like your dick you would shock it with temperature gotta be mean to it having said that we have 1.4 billion destroying it. If you like your dick, you would shock it with temperature. Right. There you go. Gotta be mean to it. Having said that,

we have 1.4 billion people. So a couple of shocked Indian dicks is not such a bad idea. I'm just saying like shutting down a few of them. But like I tried my first ice bath last week

and I was just like, no, I'm never doing this again. Did you get roped into it by some like jujitsu brained person who's like, you gotta try this, man. I did my first jujitsu thing as well so i'm learning the box for a movie and

the trainer was like i also do jujitsu do you want to have a class and i was like fine and then like he laid down on top of me and like put me in like a hold and he was like now you have to get out and it was it was like literally 20 seconds before i just went i can't let me go it's fucking terrible it's pathetic and then he was like okay now you lie down on top of me and hold me down and uh we'll do that and he just flung me off like i was a fucking handkerchief right right and then we did a bunch of rolls and I got nauseous and I'm like if the idea of this art form is to get your opponent scared that you're gonna throw up on them then I'm succeeding at jujitsu but otherwise it's gonna happen they're like okay you win you win I tap, I tap. I feel like there's probably an evolutionary,

like part of the reason we survived as long as we did and like have this instinct to throw up when we're in danger. We being me at least, throw up, shit myself. To gross out your attacker. Yeah, yeah. Probably to gross out the attacker. It has to be, right? It's got to be there for a reason.

Or is that like your version of like when an octopus like deploys the ink? Yeah. I throw up so much that they can't see. They can't see me anymore. Here's the question about the real-world application of jiu-jitsu as well. What I always see is

some guy's in a hole and he's about to choke to death or his arm is about to break and that's when he taps and he lets the guy go. Let's say you're on the street. Somebody shows up and tries to mug you and you're a badass jujitsu person. And you put the mugger in a hold.

The mugger is not tapping. Right. So you just have to put him to sleep. But what if you can't put him to sleep? At some point you've just got a mugger with a broken hand who's like, what the fuck is going on? Yeah, I mean... They just get so bored that they walk away.

They're like, dude, just puke on me, okay? Let's call it a day. It's not like an attack and exit art form. You're humping someone into submission. That's basically what jujitsu is. Yeah. It's good for fights that start while your opponent is asleep to you know just spoon them in bed and like got your rear naked choke tapped before you go back to sleep

yeah i mean i think the only time yeah like if you can actually subdue someone with like a chokehold is probably the only thing that uh look a jS mob online, come for me. Somebody who used to regularly use my homebrew jujitsu in high school on kids because I was still in my aggro phase as a teenager. Yeah. Do you want to tell that story, Miles? I think it's, I mean, I know our listeners have heard it, but I feel like. It's fine. I don't want to, I don't need to debase myself in front of a very accomplished comedian right now about how I choked someone out because they said they walked out of anger management in 2003. Yeah, we'll move past that.

I've moved past that. You do have to, if you're choking someone out, putting them to sleep, you do have to say in their ear. That's the cool thing to do. I do find that if you believe the Internet, America's become a little like fighty. believe the internet america's become a little like fighty you know there's a lot of guys who are like fucking at the supermarket or like in a parking lot or just like the on an airline like looking for a fight and and now know some sort of a martial art so i always feel a little bit like intimidated yeah i mean there's definitely like that group of like you know men who are trying to find some kind of meaning in like this

very heteronormative sense and like the easiest way is to be like i'm gonna learn how to fucking kill people you know what i mean like rather than communicate things uh so yeah that group is out there but yeah it's i think it's just the general you know degradation of society that's leading to people being a little more fighty than normal because it's not like big part of the population that makes me wish that martial arts had stayed unmixed personally i remember when we didn't mix those bitches up but yeah there's it seems like every there there's always a chance that whoever you're mad at has been training in an mma. I mean, I remember being surprised, too. Like, when I was, like, in college and I went to the UK, and I'm like, people love to scrap in the UK,

but, like, in a different way. Like, Americans will get, like, it can get kind of fucking grim, whereas I'll see, like, fair one-on-one fights. People are like, all right, lads, all right, now. You've had enough. Now go off to the chippy because the the pub just let out or whatever but yeah in america it's definitely it's getting a little more intense for sure no i mean you get into a fight in the uk and they will like colonize your country for 250 years like those guys don't fuck around man you know take your resources all of

that shit like some old white ladies on your money suddenly? What the fuck is this? Isn't the drunken soccer fan brawler discipline of martial arts? Isn't that what Conor McGregor was good at? Wasn't that basically his discipline that he trained in? Yeah, he just was a good fist fighter. Conor McGregor also sounds like an Irish person who's doing a non-Irish person's Irish accent. Do you know what I mean? Right, right, right.

Like, yo, that would be offensive if it wasn't real. Yeah, right, right. What is something you think is underrated? Naps. So I found like an app called Pizzizz. It's P-Z-I-Z-Z. I don't know the owner. It's just something I found like an app called PZIZ. It's P-Z-I-Z-Z. I don't know the owner. It's just something I found randomly online.

And it's like an app that talks you down into a nap and wakes you up. Wait. And you can choose. Yeah. So you can choose a nap anywhere between 10 minutes and like 90 minutes for power napping. Right. And then they have different voices. And this voice just kind of goes and now go to

sleep and keeps you uh keeps you under and then while you're under says cool shit he's like life's good uh things will be all right shit works out etc etc and then wakes you up from your nap as well and so like if i have a gig or something like a 10 minute power nap feels as good as like, you know, five hours of sleep. Wow. Wait, so what is the, what is like the dialogue for the wake up section? Is it like gentle or it's like, hey! You got a show! Fire, fire, fire.

No, it's, it's, and now I want you to gently start moving your toes and come back and remember everything we talked about. And life's good. And there's like a male voice and a female voice as well. And you can choose like the voice to music. That's kind of cool. It's also good marketing because the name is perfect for catching people who are trying to order pizza and are just incredibly drunk. Yeah. Because the Z and the A are real close.

I'm going to get some pizzazz. Dude, our favorite thing to do back when there were no cell phones, when we hated someone in college. I went to college in like Galesburg, Illinois. Was just to order a pizza from every pizza joint in town to the guy we hated. And just have like 10 pizza guys show up at his fucking dorm room with 10 pizzas. That was awesome. Great American pastime. Yes. One of the best.

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he's the polling wasn't good when it came out and it's getting worse because he's just like not doing anything he's like he's doing what i do in a fist fight which is play dead it seems like he's just sitting there and talking about trying to change the subject. Have you ever tried to, when someone's fighting you, try to change the subject? We'll fuck you up, man. What do you think the chances are of Arsenal winning a Premier League title this year? It's been a few years. What?

Shut up. By the way, you know what's going to happen with this American news, right? I'm going to ask basic ass questions as an Indian person. Please. And you will feel like I feel

when I meet Americans and they ask me questions about India. That's what's going to happen right now. And I think that's really, I think that's why you're a perfect guest

because, you know, so much of your material is about looking at sort of the absurdities of your society, your culture, and we can't pick a more absurd one than the United States right your society, your culture. And we can't pick a more absurd one

than the United States right now in the year 2023. Well, I feel like you guys are hard on yourselves. Everybody's going through something or the other. But okay, so to make it basic, Ron DeSantis is the guy who's going to maybe take Donald Trump's place? Potentially would be the presidential candidate who could run against Joe Biden in 2024,

assuming Joe Biden is also the candidate for the Democratic Party. And still alive. And knows that it's 2024. Yes, exactly. Right. Oh, he doesn't know it's 2023. So we're beyond that as a requirement. That man thinks it's 1967 and he's cruising in his vet.

Yeah, exactly. And this man is as charismatic as trump no he's he's not so he is we we've been talking about this for a while because he's been like the great hope of the mainstream media and the people who were you know who wanted jed bush or jeb bush yeah before trump like you know they were the people who discounted trump who were Republicans. Like, this is their hope. They're like, all right, enough with the Trump silliness. We have this other great candidate, we're going to move on. And it's just like 2016 all over again, or 2015, I guess the Republican primaries where it's just like, oh, wait, nobody wants to vote for this motherfucker. nobody wants to vote for this motherfucker right yeah then that's that's the test that republicans have right because if you're a republican now you're really being asked the question your vote is it based on actual ideology or just on fandom you know because maybe you voted for trump for fandom but now if ron de santos comes in like that's the actual test of how much you

believe in your ideology so yeah it's but unfortunately like it's gone it's basically like marvel like it's the mcu now it's all about fandoms there's nothing about policy it's like oh this guy's kind of like thanos almost but like and he's gonna own the libs with how powerful and like you know how regressive he is but yeah like with ron desantis he's really trying to differentiate himself by trying to run to the right of Donald Trump, which is what worries some of these donors, because Ron DeSantis has been very enthusiastic about how he's just going to just completely kneecap abortion. six weeks when most people don't even know they're pregnant and desantis is like i'm signing that shit okay watch this because i'm actually about overturning roe v wade okay and again he's trying to court this very hyper conservative audience going into the primary but a lot of people who are just onlookers are just sort of saying this like abortion thing with conservatives it is one of the most consistently losing messages in recent memory like it's it's been loss after loss with these

candidates who like evoked they're like i'm anti-choice and most people with who you know value body autonomy are like yeah no that i'm gonna move on from that which is most people like that most people do value body autonomy and that's why it's such a political loser yeah i don't even think it's you know sometimes when i'm when i see regressive policies just sort of worldwide you know something i tell myself is everybody who's upset at you is going to be dead in 10 years right whenever i'm in trouble right right right i feel like you know like on your last day of work that's when you take a shit in your boss's office and walk out. Right. Of course, I feel for this generation of politicians and leaders, they've just figured out this is their last day at work.

Yeah. Yeah. You know, in the boss's office, except they are the boss and they're taking a shit in each of our cubicles as they go out. They're not going to be around to smell it. Right. That's the important part. And like, meanwhile, too, this is kind of like Republicans across the country are really doubling down on the abortion issue with like the worst possible takes. Like last week, we brought up Tim Scott, who's running for president. Last week, we brought up Tim Scott, who's running for president. He's been evoking replacement theory as a reason to end abortion, which is something we've also seen in Nebraska. We also got another really healthy helping of the racist anti-Semitic trope from state Senator Steve Erdman,

who looks like the kind of guy that has never spoken to a woman outside of giving a directive but i just want to say like we'll just play his his fear-mongering around this is this is the problem when we give people body autonomy oh yeah we have killed 2 000 babies since abortion became legal just so you know he means 200 000 he meant to edit that but but he's going to keep saying 2000 because he doesn't, he doesn't even have this monologue memorized. Okay. Right. Those are 2000 people in the state of Nebraska that could be working and filling some of those positions. And we have vacancies. They're not here. Instead, our state population has not grown except by those foreigners who have moved here or refugees who've been placed here why is that it's because we've killed 200 000 people these are people we've killed so there's that that's uh that's phase one of that take if he's like yeah so you know i hate to say it but it's these brown people that are moving in

that are replacing the little white babies that i'm talking about in nebraska but again he's just he's relying on this very racist trope that we've seen from charlottesville and many other places when you hear like they will not replace us type of shit is that what you think the abortion thing is driven by is that we need to have enough of a white population type of shit is that what you think the abortion thing is driven by is that we need to have enough of a white population going out there is that what you think it is i think it's one of the things they're trying i think you know like that that's one of the arguments they're testing out i think a lot of it is about wanting to control women and not like having a patriarchal society that is like down to bodily autonomy but it is it is something that like very

wealthy industrialists like talk about in private about this idea of like are there enough babies and like are there enough white babies and what does that mean to the racial makeup of the country so or is there enough revenue for this big industry that is babies and children as well, right? Yeah. Do we have enough customers in general? But yeah, it's something too that, again, by evoking or invoking the replacement theory, you perk the ears up of like ethno-nationalists, white supremacists, and also evangelicals who are like, oh yeah, good, abortion and yes, more white people. I like that too, because I fear a brown America. And so, yeah, that's that's that's one take. His colleague, John Lowe, decided he was going to use for his rhetorical attack. He was going to read from a spooky book of ghost stories to really bring the point home about how abortion is just so very bad. Here's him again. Be be careful there's a very spooky ghost story he's about to tell with a brand new baby in her womb marion her new baby in her womb she approaches elizabeth and john is in elizabeth's womb and the holy spirit is communicated in some miraculous

incredible way from the womb of the virgin mary in jesus christ himself to the womb of the Virgin Mary And Jesus Christ himself to the womb Of Elizabeth John the Baptist and John Left And that is why abortion Is clearly evil Boom laugh track They're laughing yo

And that is why abortion Is clearly evil Second punchline He repeated He needed is clearly evil second punchline okay he repeated yeah he he needed another bite of that punchline yeah so he said that is wow i mean you can see somebody behind him the camera that like it's a it's worth looking at because there's somebody behind him like i don't know if they're from the media but they just like when they realize what he's doing they just like they put the phone out face yeah yeah he's like wait he's like wait hold on what he's like texting his wife he's like you're not gonna believe what this fucking guy just said yeah i would have paid

somebody five thousand dollars to just scream jesus is brown by the way yeah exactly are you sure about that are you sure you want to be sure about that's the story you want to tell? No, seriously. And again, I mean, but hey, you hear that, Libs? Two ladies touched bellies and the one lady's ghost baby made the other baby move. So checkmate, assholes. Abortion is evil. Like, huh? about your ideological battle in America that I find hilarious. As a liberal myself, and somebody who's quite leftist, why would you have so much loathing for people who already have so much self-loathing?

Nobody hates on themselves more than the average liberal. We're just like a pot of anxiety and self-loathing. We're hating ourselves enough for all of you. You don't need to do it. No, truly. It's, it's, I mean, again, this is like, this is, this is your brain on anti-choice rhetoric, folks. You know, the people, you know, the like left to make a compelling case in some of these state houses have the charisma of an evil high school principal from an 80s movie.

an evil high school principal from an 80s movie. And I think while most people are thinking, why the fuck are they doing this when it's clear they've been losing election after election and like ones where they thought they were going to change this like state Supreme Court in Wisconsin, like over this issue, like we have to realize that people are getting right now in primary mode and they just want to make their case to the base first, even if it alienates, I don't know, 70% of the country when they hear it. And the overall strategy, especially in Ron DeSantis' case, as this one political science professor Jack Pitney puts it, is he is betting on disaster. That is really what's going on too. The reason they're still stoking this fire is because they are hoping for some kind of terrible recession or foreign policy blunder, disaster to help swing the focus off of the, you know, you know, regression or the restricting of body autonomy or, you know, our own reproductive rights. You know, you need some fire to stoke, right?

At the end of the day, in a politically charged year. And maybe the problem or the development of America, as you look at it, is that you're not able to stoke a religious fire for whatever reason. Because you've kind of moved beyond that, right? And in many countries in the world, that's the basis of an election is basic religious polarization. This religion against that religion. And you don't get to do that anymore so really all you have is abortion and guns which kind of feel similar to religions right in modern america you know yeah that's a fantastic point and yeah i mean the way that we do like look at it quite literally probably worship gun culture and things like that. It is the way and the way it's evoked to, you know, like people even say that, you know, Jesus even is sanctioning weapons.

I don't know if you know this in a very charitable interpretation for their own means. But again, like even when they think of like, let's hope there's covid-23 or something that is going to completely change the conversation. I mean, you know, abortion is a fundamental, right? And so one that probably becomes even more important if there's economic uncertainty, like even if they're praying for a recession, I think people would even be more concerned with, oh, with my financial outlook being a certain way, it's probably even more important to me to be able to decide when I'm having a family. Or I don't think people are like, or the idea that, you know, if they have this take of like Joe Biden is going to make America look weak to our enemies. I don't think suddenly your concerns about body autonomy go out the window. issue that they're it's they they keep holding on to but it makes more sense if you consider that's

like i think they're just hoping another issue comes up because they don't they'd rather make an election be like look at how bad joe biden messed up the economy than them having to defend here's why we believe you shouldn't have any reproductive rights yeah i, I do get nervous every time the Republicans are banking on was about to like have a peace treaty and they actively like went to Vietnam and sabotaged the peace treaty and were like

it's actually not going to be a good deal. We'll get you a better deal and we're going to win. Like is one of the most profound acts of evil that I feel like probably got a little

memory hole because it didn't come out until like decades after. I think it was like the sort of shit that like people at the time were like nixon so evil who probably did that but like he did do that he did that shit right but like they they will sabotage they will cause the death of tens of thousands of americans in order to get power so anytime the republicans are like

betting on disaster i'm always a little bit worried, especially when it ties to the economy, which is a complex system driven by Republicans, a bunch of rich people who are Republicans that like. And they could be the architects of a default too. Yeah, you know what I mean?

Through the obstruction. I think also if you consider that, especially elections, like I have a friend who's a politician and he says you know the big mistake that people make is you think that people take a long time to make a decision about who they vote for but if you're a politician you understand that you have 20 seconds of a person's time it's a 20 second decision and that any sort of big election issue that really warrants

introspection is a complex, nuanced issue, right? So what did Biden do to the economy, et cetera, et cetera, you got to go into that. But the reason they keep repeating the greatest hits, because the greatest hits represent the minimum amount of words, it's literally grammar in election communication, low taxes, pro guns, pro choice, you know, they're just very easy to drive decisions and and so it's kind of disheartening to think about these gigantic issues just being boiled down to economy of words yeah for communication for reaching people but economy of words gives you your farthest reach right so it's actually a lot more simple than we think it is right

like yeah the term like thought killing cliche is also the other thing that's used it's actually a lot more simple than we think it is. Right. It's like, yeah, the term like thought killing cliche is also the other thing that's used. It's like, no, just once you hear that, it'll end any kind of further thought once you hear a certain talking. Less immigrants, more guns, lower taxes. You just understand shit. And so you have to keep the greatest hits in their current form. So you have to keep talking about abortion. Save babies. in their current form.

So you have to keep talking about abortion. Save babies. Yeah. Despite, yeah, and it's like so funny too because like even after the last election, Republicans are like, we lost, we got to do something about getting more suburban women. And they're like, we got it.

We got it. Spooky ghost stories about how baby Jesus got John the Baptist to kick his mommy's tummy. Gave him a forced ghost high five through his mother's belly. And they did a flip. Yeah.

Yeah. And that's why you shouldn't make people to have any decision making ability over your own body. Okay. Both for us. Well, we have a new segment on this show. It's called woke alerts because this is. No,

it's just a, like some political action committee. Consumers Research is providing woke alerts to notify you when your favorite company goes too woke. I mean, I feel like we're seeing it with like the Bud Light thing. I like that they sent a woke alert out for BlackRock. Yeah. Yeah. Really?

Woke Wall Street. Yeah. Yeah. They always talk about woke wall street but i mean this seems like to be honest it's easy to make fun of it seems like a winning strategy to me because corporations are like very skittish and you can control what a corporation thinks is happening with a mailing campaign or you know getting 20 people to just send a bunch of angry emails to a corporate you know like they're they're not they they're not like they don't have morals they all they have is like they're doing their best to see what they think is making people happy and everyone is afraid of being fired and line go up

if line go up then we're good make sure the line goes up though please it's consumers research is basically a lobbying firm under the guise of a consumer watchdog it's funded by dark money they recently made the news for their effort to prevent wall street from factoring climate change into investment decisions. And it's, they're just like launching a huge campaign to anything, environmental, social progress. They, they're going to be there to claim that it is woke, but like some of the stuff seems like confusing.

Like it seems like they're like, they freaked out when the American airlines like reduced leg room on flights, which. Wait, that's woke. I guess that's woke. They're quite extract. I mean, do they even define what woke is? No, no, no. Can anyone define what woke is?

No, nobody can. There's an author who just published a book about like how woke brain disease is killing our children and went on a tv show and they were like so just define woke for us because this is confusing to talk about this without having a clear definition and she had no clue she was just like i well see what you just you just wrote a book about it. Yeah. It's the... Hold on, actually, let me find that clip because it's pretty fantastic. Oh, here we go.

Would you mind defining woke? Because it's come up a couple of times and I just want to make sure we're on the same page. So, I mean, woke is sort of the idea that... I... sort of the idea that um i this is going to be one of those moments that goes viral i mean yeah you're right is something that's very hard to define and we've spent an entire chapter defining it uh-huh it is sort of the understanding that we need to re totally reimagine and we and re reduce society in order to create hierarchies of oppression um sorry i it's hard to explain in a 15 second soundbite okay okay i get it i get it i get it it's just again a thought-killing cliche for them too oh woke bad that's bad american airlines

woke bad yeah that would have been a better answer. Oh, yeah. Woke is bad. Is it really an election stance? I remember seeing a couple of candidates that you guys had who were like, I'm going to get rid of the woke, etc. And like, okay, I went to college in Galesburg, Illinois. And so this is

America, America, right? It's not New York, America. It's not. And every bit of American pop culture I've ever seen tends to shit on the Galesburg, Illinois in the middle of the countries. Totally. You know, as if they're ignorant. But these are just very hardworking,

very decent people who want to pay their bills and watch The Bachelor and go to bed at night. Right? And I think even if they were Republican and you went up to them and you're like, I'm anti-woke, they'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about?

You know, get the fuck off my farm or get the fuck out of my cafeteria. You know, so is it really a thing? I think what it's done, it is it from my perspective, they've perfectly encapsulated the feeling of like white hegemony or like cishet hegemony and the creeping influence of people that want more inclusive language, that want more inclusive society.

And so those things, because to them, they're saying, oh, I got to feel bad because now I got to use people's pronouns. People have preferred pronouns. That's woke. Oh, I have to now. I can't I like I, we're supposed to teach a, of like a good faith interpretation of American history to kids. So they understand this, that's woke. So anything that upsets that balance or suddenly puts these people in a position where they're like, oh, I got to feel bad about this, or I have to change the way I've been interacting with other people. That's how they just sort of deploy that word as a sort of the discomfort around any kind of progress that's occurring. And I guess it's become this

like catch-all. It's not even what you define as progress. It's rewiring. Anything that requires rewiring will be easily determined as being allegedly woke. Less legroom on an American Airlines flight. That's rewiring my posture. But I think, Veer, you're making a really good point that they, by being the ones who focus on woke, like they are the ones who are talking about, you know, trans people and like top surgery and, you know, all these different things that people who live in Illinois, like where you went to college, might not care that much about. But they are like that becomes their talking point and like they own it. And they're the ones who are like talking about it. their talking point and like they own it and they're the ones who are like talking about it and i feel like it's also a losing political strategy but it's one that gets a lot of attention and so they they're able to kind of profit off of it i think it tracks because you have such a large liberal media that picks it up as well right on both sides it tracks yeah but

but i do think like okay i had host parents and my host parents one of them was a cafeteria lady and one of them was a trucker right and i mean to them the fact that i was an indian thespian was as alien as the fact that you know that somebody was woke etc etc but i venture to say if you went up to either of those people and you you were like oh God, you got to use people's pronouns now, you know, et cetera. They'd be like, I'll call you a bottle of applesauce if you want me to call you that shit, if my taxes go down, you know, or if my life is made easier. And to take sort of their narrative and make it about these things is almost to disregard their real narrative. Yeah, absolutely. Because, I mean, on this level, the GOP especially has completely abandoned any kind of policy. There's nothing, everything they evoke

has nothing to do with substantive policy. It's about these culture war grievances because they feel that, I think they saw that that's energizing people more so in like a rallies type situation where people are coming out and they've seen like school, like these school board meetings go up with a lot of people like,

I don't want my kids knowing about like slavery in this country or whatever. And I think they're very short sightedly being like, okay, that bottle that while in the meantime, to your point, the very real situation of living in the United States is also a force that acts on everyone. And everybody is having to face inflation or unaffordable housing or wage stagnation and limited options for medical care. But because all of their things aren't really going to the heart of correcting those things, it's much easier to just go straight to, oh my God, remember when you used to be able to just use slurs against gay people in public and it wasn't you didn't get canceled. And like that to them, it feels like, OK, that's a better place to just operate from because we're not going to have a substantive policy debate right now.

Because we've completely just normalized this sort of like culture war grievance thing as being the way we talk about politics. as being the way we talk about politics. Yeah. Both sides are focused on distracting people from the core thing that they actually care about, which is like their material well-being. And, you know, both sides would rather not have corporations, economic health matter more than their physical health. But that is the world that both sides actually want to keep in place.

And so they generate a bunch of noise to distract people hopefully that is their goal i also think that it's it's a very interesting time for your for your country and i say this respectfully but you know i think america's getting used to the fact that what used to be one seat at the table is now many seats at the table you know at least the global table it's a different world we live in right now everybody's voice is equally amplified but like i remember going to college in america in 1999 right and in 2000 2001 so just before 9-11 i feel like it didn't really matter who the president was at that moment in time in America, or at least it mattered less because you were so far ahead of the global pack, you know, and there wasn't this big culture conversation and everybody's voices weren't amplified.

Your system had been so set that it really mattered very little who the president was and whether you were Republican or Democrat, you were going to be okay, no matter who the president was. were Republican or Democrat, you were going to be okay, no matter who the president was. And I feel like that somehow changed now, where now it really matters ideologically who the president is. Yeah, I think part of that too, is just, we've gone from, I think there's gradual and a gradual increase in people actually trying to understand civics in this country. Because I think a lot for the longest time, it didn't matter in like the boom years of the nineties for many people, but there are plenty of communities that began to stagnate. And those were sort of like niche things that you would have to be really tapped into like American culture to really care about. And now is like, I think the degradation of like our infrastructure and all these things

are becoming more widespread and felt people are beginning to understand more. It's like, oh, wait, what are these policies again? Oh, right. Before it used to be like, yeah, you care about babies, but abortion was never under threat. But then now it is. And suddenly it's like, well, hold on now, like that, that actually fucking matters to me. And so I think it's part and parcel of just how how difficult life is becoming for people and also having to inform yourself of like you can't just be passive. But along what goes alongside of that is you have all these media apparatuses that are just there to get your attention and maybe say like, yeah, I know it could be about this. But let's talk about this other issue rather than, you know, do we live in a corporatocracy with that are run by a bunch of plutocrats? And is that something we need to be concerned about? It's easier to say that Republicans won't do anything about guns.

And, you know, the Republicans just go, the Democrats are woke when I think all people would rather say, I would like to make more money at my job. I would like to afford a house. I don't want to go into crippling debt because I want an education. Like take, take those points and make those real for me. Everything else is just to avoid the real reconciliation or the real reckoning that has to occur in this country, because that's, I think one of our greatest strengths as a culture is there, our ability to avoid a reckoning with a lot of the shit that's been going

on and just kind of paper over the cracks until I don't know, it becomes completely untenable. Yeah. Guys, I really think your election comes down to like a 20 minute debate. Like, kind of paper over the cracks until i don't know it becomes completely untenable yeah guys i really think your election comes down to like a 20 minute debate like yeah and it's very entertaining but it really is it will that's the american election it's that 20 minute debate i think you you win and lose in that debate it's really it's it's like watching gladiators it really is watching an

american election and and yeah and that's the difference between potentially another global like military conflict is because one guy made fun one old white guy made fun of the other old white guy on a stage and people are like yep all right that's it he owned him oh he owned him oh he's been pwned wait what i'm being conscripted and yeah who who knows if there's even anybody still making up their mind at this point who's still making up their mind about donald trump and joe biden like what is it even 20 minutes like what would it take for anybody to be like wait donald trump is running for president again all right where is let me see where he's at on the issues and then i'll get back to you right all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And I do just want to talk about, Envir, get your kind of perspective on guns, because we talk a lot about it, the fact that the presence of guns, the fact that gun sales shot through the roof, that pun was unintended, but there are probably plenty of guns inadvertently shooting through the roof because there are so many new gun owners in the United States now because the gun industry is very successful at turning the anxiety that we were just talking about into sales.

And so there's a news story that came out at the end of last week that after the mass shooting that happened on Monday in Kentucky, the actual gun used in that mass shooting was sold at auction to a licensed dealer. And this is the like that that's the system in many U.S. states like many U.S. states have a law that says the police can't keep guns like once they confiscate a gun, they have to get it back on the street. Washington state, where police are allowed to decide whether or not to sell guns, have sold dozens of AR-15s, AK-47s and other assault weapons. And like, where the police are actually like, we would prefer that this wasn't the case because these guns

keep shooting our officers after we put them back out there. But the gun lobby and everything makes it so that you just can't hold on to these guns. They made it in Kentucky. It's just a law that you can't destroy it. You know what I mean? It's just because it's the law that you can't destroy it. You know what I mean?

It's just because it's the law that you can't destroy it. It's like, you can't do that. Don't destroy the gun. You got to sell it. It's like burning a Bible, you know? It is a religious thing. You can't destroy a gun. That's the most sacred thing in the United States.

Check the drawer of the nightstand in your hotel room. Is there a gun in there? Oh, there's one. Yeah, there's one placed there by the Gideons. Yeah. I think, I mean, and again, speaking from an outsider's perspective

and speaking from a largely very nonviolent country historically, even our independence movement was nonviolent. So I think it's pure economics. I think that, you know so i think it's pure economics i think that you know weapons of mass destruction always come with like contracts of mass production and people forget that you know yeah and i think the the greatest con narratively that has ever been pulled by the gun industry is that to preserve

guns is somehow a preservation of American voice or a preservation of American culture or a preservation of American values. And that's actually not the case because if a preservation of guns is a preservation of American values, then from the same timing, a preservation of segregation is also a preservation of American values and a preservation of other things. So if you're not preserving those things, you don't have to preserve guns either. If you can evolve from segregation, you can evolve from guns. But this narrative that they've put in, which is to preserve guns is to preserve America, is just gigantically reinforced. And I don't think it changes unless you the average American doesn't feel like a gun those people like, it's my right to own this anti-aircraft gun because of the second amendment, which is part of our constitution. I know some libs will call it a spooky post-it note signed by racists from 250 years, whatever years ago,

but that's our right. And yeah, to your point, it's like, it's the constitution is one of the biggest things that people will evoke in terms of like the rhetoric of it is like, because that's our document. And we can't just tear that up, even though we've had to amend it a few times. of it become more and more in our face now when you have governors say like, my friend was shot in that mass shooting and then say nothing about gun control after. And then, you know, that's hands in pockets, right? At the end of the day. But I do think from a complete outsider's perspective, it's not the gun that makes you American. It's what happens after the gun that makes you American.

That's why people come to your country, right? The fact that you can dial 911 and a cop will be there in 30 seconds and that you will drive to the hospital on a road that is perfectly paved and perfectly lit at night and walk into a hospital with state-of-the-art technology and be able to be treated.

That's the appeal. It's not the gun. That's the promise. That's the promise. For the ownership of the gun. People are coming across that, oh, fuck, in case I ever run into a gun, America will take care of me. That's why people come to you if they come to you. So I'd love to see the reinforcement of that narrative. And I just don't see it.

Well, and again, because if you think about it, right, to the point of like mass production, it's easier to be like, well, that keeps an industry going. If we're suddenly like, folks, people come to us because of we have this robust infrastructure or these other things that would also begin a lot of conversation of how we've not reinvested in our own country. Like we're, we're like cruising off of like, you know, post-World War II investment for like many decades now, especially when you look at like public schools and things like that where you'd hope to be like man like we need to reinvest in a lot of these things but right because some of those would probably caught like create a need for like more like you know tax revenue and things like that just becomes a like a like a hot button

issue because then we have to start talking about like our progressive tax systems and it's easier just be talking about the thing that will make people money unfortunately and yeah like it it really is something that i think a lot of americans have lost sight of is sort of people always say like this is the best fucking country but they're not they're looking at it from their version of like i got wi Wi-Fi and 4K TV. This is the best country in the world. Versus, to your point, how a lot of other, like the situation in other places, why other people may believe that this is a nicer place to live. Although, you know, it is an intoxicating advertisement we have and one that people end up realizing is a little bit different when they arrive. that we have and one that people end up realizing is a little bit different when they arrive. But overall, you know, you do see like you understand why there's a little bit more stability here than other places, although it's, you know, rooted in some darker things at times.

Well, I don't know why guns enter your school system. And, you know, I have two friends who are American and have an eight year old and a 12 year old, and they happen to go to college, to school in India. And so all I can speak from is from personal experience. Our school system is so hard that our collegiate system set us free. Do you know what I mean? It's almost like we were brought up to say we have to work so hard in school so we can feel all the things we want to feel in college.

And I'm not saying that's a great system. But I'm saying, how can you reorder your school system so it keeps kids busier and it keeps their minds more occupied so they don't turn on each other with these narratives? I think that's also a conversation to be had about your school system. these narratives i think that's also a conversation to be had you know about your school system do and like culturally in india is education seen as a thing that is like a could be a runaway train like ideologically because that's that's sort of the like attitude there's a lot of hostility towards public education in the united states where you see people like i don't want my kid to learn that i don't want my kid to know rosa parks was black and like these other things where you're seeing too that there's just it's like we're incentivizing like the breakdown of public education, too.

I think that's another thing that like we're having to fight against where, you know, teachers are already like they're fleeing the industry because there's a lack of support, a lack of proper pay. And we're making it as as an uninviting a place for people who would like want to teach people to exist, like to work and things like that. Well, no, I think for us, you know, we're a very young country. You have to keep that in mind. You know, we got independence in 1947. And so for us, education is a privilege. And simply a privilege because it was kept away from us for so long. it was kept away from us for so long.

You know, for 250 years, we weren't allowed to be educated by the British so that we wouldn't prosper. So right now, my God, your kid is going to school, your kid is going to college. That's the first privilege that you have. That's the first sign of privilege apart from meals on the table,

etc, etc, is education. So I don't even think we're at the point where we're like what kind of right uh narrative etc etc fuck we're learning this is amazing yeah i think we're there it's been inverted you know here like it's not no one so many people are beginning to look at it with hostility and the rhetoric especially with like a lot of conservatives is like this hostility towards academia and that like that's where indoctrination happens or whatever and they've made that a very that's like a compelling talking point for their base to be able to look at that and not see that

this is something that causes upward mobility or something that you know black and brown people see as a privilege too that's why many people want to go to college but but again the status quo is such that we're you know we like right now we're having to fight this whole campaign of like school choice which is really just a way to say we need to destroy the public school system and and so like yeah we're we have like some people understand the value of education and that it is absolutely a privilege or you know something worth just like being able to teach our kids like the most basic things about like our history or math or reading. While others like, you know, see it as a slippery slope into being woke or that they're like, I'm going to teach my kid at home or something like that. Or I don't want my kids with other kids that are different than them.

home or something like that. Or I don't want my kids with other kids that are different than them. So it's just a, it's, we just have like, there's just so much chaos going on and like people's ability to even see something as education as like a right for everyone. And isn't something that needs to be turned into like a, a rhetorical barb. And that's why you have a 20 minute debate and it sorts everything out. And we're good here. Yeah. Well, Veer, it's been such a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist.

Where can people find you, follow you, see you, all that good stuff? You can find me on VeerDas.in. I don't have.com yet because some bastard

bought it and then he faulted on one payment when I was 28 years old. So it's VeerDas.in. I'm going to be touring America throughout May and June. So it's Veerdas.in. I'm going to be touring America throughout May and June. So you can

find my cities there. And you can catch me on Netflix. The special is called Veerdas Landing. So check it out there. Yeah, nice. Is there a city that you haven't been to that you're particularly excited to see in the US? I'm building a set right now. So I'm kind of doing, you know, smaller

rooms. And so I'm going to like Brea, California and Salt Lake City and Houston and a bunch of other places. You know, it'll be fun. Atlantic City you've got coming up. I guess that was yesterday as of there. Oh, no, sorry. That's May 13th, Atlantic City. An interesting experiment. Yeah.

And is there a tweet or work of media that you've been enjoying? A tweet or work of media that I've been enjoying? Just follow an account called The Dodo on Instagram. It's like dog rescue video stuff and I like everything that they

do. I love a good dog rescue video. I'm the guy who will skip to the part where the dog is rescued. Like I'll catch one glimpse of the dog when it's sad, not be able to watch the rest and just skip ahead until the dog is happy and fluffy and healthy again. Right. Watch the dodo. There you go.

Yeah. On Instagram. I love all this stuff. I always get, I always get for whatever. And the ones that hit the hardest for me are the ones where you see like a sheep whose wool has become like just so matted. You have to shave it. Yeah.

Yeah. And they're like, this, this, this, like this sheep was blind. They couldn't even see. And then you see them like working all the, the, the wool and stuff off. And I'm like, Oh, bless that sheep. Yeah. All right. Miles, where can people find you?

Is there a work of media you've been enjoying find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray uh find jack and i on our basketball podcast miles and jack got mad boosties yeah you know we're talking about the nba playoffs and then you can find me on my other show uh 420 day fiance where i talk about just absolute trash reality shows because that's the way I escape from reality by going into that other reality um is there a t uh a tweet I like let's see I just want to keep the pressure just keep talking about Harlan Crowe and uh you know Thomas or Clarence Thomas and I didn't realize we talked about how Harlan Crowe bought his mom's house she still lives in that

house that he bought and renovated. So what's the big deal? Yeah, so it's basically like here's money and then you can live in it for free. Or I don't know. I don't know what their agreement is, but I'm surely that doesn't curry favor with the Supreme Court justice. Will Stancil at W.H. Stancil tweeted, I feel like people are losing perspective. I feel like people are losing perspective. A billionaire subsidized millions in luxury travel for a Supreme Court justice,

then bought the justice's parents' house and let them stay in it while he paid for it. Short of envelopes of money, how much more crooked could you get? Yeah. So we'll see. We'll see how long it takes. Yeah. A tweet I've been enjoying is Josiah Johnson King Josiah on Twitter fixed the NBA for me fit fixed the draft for me he said they should do somebody said what's one thing you'd change about the NBA playoffs and he said they should do NBA way offs and

have the bottom four teams play for the number one pick same week as the play-in games. That would be incredible. That would be so amazing. Yeah, that would be so dope. What a great idea. King Josiah. Make him the king of the NBA. Literally. You can find me on Twitter

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where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Myles, what song do you think people might enjoy? Just some more beats, some head nod stuff for you, because I recommended a lot of beats last week. I'm going to keep that going. This one is from the artist 6to, S-I-X-T-O-O,

and it's called Box Cut emporium part three and it's just got it's it's just it it's got a really nice like electric piano sample and just good chopped up drums and a little droning bass line so yeah enjoy it box cutter emporium part three by six two all right well the daily zeitgeist of production of iheartartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. Back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we will talk to you all then. Bye. Bye.

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