The Daily Zeitgeist - Banks Win Iran War! Fanta > Chemo 04.16.26

Episode Date: April 16, 2026

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That's a sick sort of like creative space you have behind you, Jacob. Is that kind of where you get your ideas out? Yeah, sometimes you just got to like do a little hot wheeling and. Oh, how many fucking loop the loops are that hot wheel? Is that insane? Yeah, we got one of those. How old are you kids? Four and six.

And my wife got that for my six year old with some birthday money he had. And I was like simultaneously like excited and jealous because I like I got, you know, old hand me down hot wheel track. that like if you could build something cool, you know, and had like chocolate like encrusted all over. Yeah, but we would like, we would like rubber band it to the top of a bunk bed or whatever. And my kid has this thing that like he played with for two weeks and, you know.

Yeah. And you're like, well, it's mine now. Yeah. So now it's mine. So now I, yeah, this is a garage. This is my wife's desk that's very clean.

My desk, which you can't see is very messy. You know what I read? That's the moon. I'm also a DESE mesk motherfucker. Yeah. Desi mesk? I'm a Desi mesker.

You know what I read is that that wasn't chocolate encrusting or hot wheel track miles. Okay, well, look, why am I on trial right now? Okay, let's just leave that alone. But there was something I read recently, there was like a thing that said, it's good, like, it's usually creatives have pretty messy desks. Oh, my God. That's what I read too. Did you also pitch in for that article? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I could show it to my way. There's another one I read that smoking weed every day, smoking weed every day gives you superpower. I pitched it on that study. There was another one. That one was by Nate Dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was, we got in early on that one.

Uh-huh. But it's interesting because my dad also messy, fucking, like my earliest memories of my dad's, like, work space for what he's like making art and stuff. And not that he's like a painter, just like his desk was a fucking nightmare.

He's just got cameras with like film springing out of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is like my situation. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. Once you get into my area. My whole thing is like, I know where everything is.

I don't. That's what I always say. Oh, you don't? No. Can I just ask for a quick, Jack? Are you the Jack O'Brien that used to work at Kraft? No. Nine years ago?

No, you can't prove anything. Wrong guy. Wrong guy. No, you know. I was. Yeah, yeah. I was him. You're not related to Dan O'Brien and never were.

That was just a coincidence. I know Dan. I had to keep reminding him. I'm sure I met you. I know I remember you from emails, but I am friends with Dan O'Brien and Abe and Swame and Oh, amazing. Yeah. I'm also, I'm like, wait, yeah. Well, I remember when we were first like, oh, Jacob Reed.

I'm like, I know, I know of Jacob Reed, you know, and then. That's the only way. Yeah, there's no other way people know about me other than someone else. I know a few other Jacob Reed's, though. Do you really? Yeah, yeah, I know like 15. Which ones? This one dude who lives in Columbus, Ohio.

I know the other one dude who lives down Lancaster. Porn star. Wait, are you fucking with me? Yeah, you're fucking with me, right? What do you mean? Miles. Because of the podcast? Or this is a real...

Podcast? This one? What's a podcast? This one? Daily zeitgeist? Uh-huh, uh-huh. Surely not the one where you find other Jacob Reeds. Well, because people, this is happening now.

This is, this is what, what has started to happen is this. This is this, this is, this like, my life is like folding in on itself where, so my, um... Your life is like a movie and it's like a, Christopher, fucking, Kaufman. There you go. Get it out, Jack. This is an I-Heart podcast.

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Just drink around the parasites. And a Whitney Houston, I.K. Shout out. Shout out the listeners. All right, Miles. We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by an award-winning writer-producer, director, wants a member of Bangorang for a mere decade at UCB. Now the host of the show, Jacob Reed and me, which is,

curious because his name is Jacob but I'm the me in the title you're the me in the title but you're Jacob Reed I am it's a I mean it's the word it just seems like such a narcissistic show and I if there was a way to do it without my name being in the title honestly if there was a way

to do it without me being the host I would do that you say that and yet you're in the title twice yep you are Jacob this seems like a contradiction I can't imagine I'm the first person to point it out. But it's Jacob Reed and me, you are me. Who the fuck is Jacob Reed? So the idea is every episode, it's a different Jacob Reed.

And I'm always the same me. But you're Jacob Reed. That's true. That's true. Do you have trouble with really dumb listeners like me? It'd be like, well, wait a second. You finally admitted you're dumb. Oh, yeah.

Dumb listeners like me. Could you imagine someone earnest? You're like, what's going on on this show? Who's Jacob? They're both Jacob Reed? It does create a lot of confusion, even with people who aren't dumb. But we just did a live show at Dynasty Typewriter here in L.A., and we were doing tech beforehand. And for the show, we had four Jacob Reed's all in the show.

And so we were trying to figure out like a mic thing. And the tech person was just like, okay, so then Jacob will, so, okay, then Jacob will read. well, okay. There was just this moment of like, yeah, what do you guys do? And I'm like, you should see our text thread. It's like I had to tell everyone how to format the names in their phone because something I learned early on in my podcast is that even in the year 2026, if you have someone with your same exact name as a contact on your iPhone, your phone doesn't understand it.

It'll put all of your information together. Yes, there's some guy who has my name. who has, like, been, I think my wife has him as like, somehow, like, merged with my contact in her phone. Yeah. It's like he runs a show. That's what she told me. Yeah, exactly.

Oh, man. Kind of tell you, Jack, that doesn't happen. It just says Bay, which has to be me. Right. Got a lot of weird emoji. Yeah. So are you, how are you, are you just, like, spelling their name differently? Are you calling some of them?

Jock. breed. Yeah, so the first name is usually either what they do or where they're from. So in my phone I have like drummer Jacob as the first name. And then there's a, I mean, this is also

complicated, but there's two jazz drummers named Jacob Reed. Oh, no. So they both did the show. So for the show, it was South Pass, Jacob, which is not me. I'm East Past. It was East Past Jacob, South Pass, Jacob, Columbia.

Jacob and Baltimore Jacob were how we were in each other's phones. Wow. I like you just jazz drummer. You're like, do you use traditional grip? Just trying to find a differentiation. Okay. So there's a traditional grip, jazz drummer, Jacob. Okay.

Yeah. And seeing the two of them talk was like listening to that. Do you believe in God? No. Do you believe in nominative determinism? Like, are you a person who thinks that there's something to the name that just like, you know what I mean? You know, I mean?

You know, I, After doing this for a while, I think there is a certain amount of something to that. I know there's a bunch of research about, like, you know, people whose last name is banks are more likely to have finance jobs than other jobs, et cetera. Carlton. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

But I think it's some of it. I don't know. Not everything is determined. Right. But, like, you know, I think there's, yeah, definitely. If your name is. Dennis and you become a dentist. If your name is Jacob Reed, you're more likely to be determined to determine.

be on my podcast. Yeah, there it is. There it is. All right, Jacob, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We are talking about Donald Trump's mental fitness and his, he's got a good theory on why it's actually good that he drank so much Diet Coke.

Yeah, yeah. That I think it's just a nice, amuse-bush for the news cycle. Yeah, yeah. This whole news cycle is a figment of his imagination. You know, it's just like a world he dreamed up. So it's good to just like level set with like what that brain do on the president. Then we're going to talk about this Financial Times headline. Wall Street banks break records as Iran war drives trading boom.

That's just worth keeping in our winners and losers section. Yeah, yeah, we'll break that down. We'll talk about AI Zuck. Mark Zuckerberg has created an AI version of himself, and this is the thing that a lot of tech CEOs are doing, accidentally revealing. Like the Uber CEO just did that. Yeah.

And it doesn't work because no AI works, but they do seem to have the job that is most easily replaceable by AI, which might be like, that might be why they believe in it, much. Is they're like, yeah, well, I'm an automaton. So like, this thing could easily replace me. This is the future. It's that thing that Homer used when he gained all that weight so he didn't have to, he could work from home. And there's a little bird that just teetered. And just clicked yes every fucking three seconds. That's a CEO. That almost ended the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're going to talk about Hollywood stars coming together to ask, please stop the Paramount, Warren Brother merger, all of that. Plenty more. But first, Jay. Jacob, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? I think the literal last thing that I searched for was I'm going to try to phonetically do or grammatically search it the way I search it. But I think it was why Wallace gone Veronica Mars season two. Why Wallace gone Veronica Mars season two. Yeah, I'm rewatching Veronica Mars and the character of Wallace disappears for like four or five episodes. And I was like, what do you do?

What happened? Was he making a movie? I really wanted to know. And it turns out they just didn't have enough money to pay him for all the episodes. Because that was a thing, I guess, on this show, which at least by like the soundtrack seemed to have a good amount of money. Right. Based on the songs they were choosing. But there's characters that just disappear for like four or five seasons at a time because they couldn't afford to have the ensemble cast on for the whole season.

That character is only in episodes where we don't have a Rolling Stone song in the episode. It's one or the other. Yeah. They spent all that money on that yellow pathfinder. It is such a snapshot of like the mid-2000s. That car and the show also because I grew up in Southern California and went to school in Southern California. And so like there's a lot about it that is just like, oh, yeah, that's like how things felt and were. I've only seen the first season

and all I can remember is the yellow pathfinder because I remember that or actually it was an Xtera. Yeah, I wasn't going to correct you, but it was like that was the car of the moment was like that the yellow Nissan Exterra. Because it had like somewhat of like outdoor shit built into it.

They're like, just cars fucking crazy, man. Just a chunkier pathfinder. Type of car you park on a rock at a car dealer shit. Yeah. Yeah. But that was also the era where all these crazy SUVs were coming out, and it was like, people don't need cars. Like this.

Now those are like the smallest cars on the road. Yeah, exactly. A Pathfinder looks like a Prius now. Right. Yeah. I want a car that looks like it can eat the other cars. Can I get them out? Can I also just quickly say that the podcast, the thing that you guys were talking about earlier,

because I was like, was I too beating around the bush about it, but I have a podcast where I find other people named Jacob Reed and see what they're up. to and that's what you guys are talking about. Oh, yes, yes. In case people, why was that dude talking about his name a bunch? Yeah. Yes, the host of the show, Jacob Reed and me. He is Jacob Reed.

He is me. If you can get your mind around that, then maybe you can check it out. It's really just an excuse for, like, the name thing is just kind of from a guffin to tell these really interesting stories about other people. And sometimes about me, but often about like, So one of the reviews we got was someone said that it was like the team that makes the rehearsal, earnestly tried to make this American life. And I feel like we could ask for no better review.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaking of two names, people with the same name. I thought you were going to say, why Wallace gone? I thought you were just doing a very dumb version. I thought you were doing a very dumb version of Where's Wallace? The S or the wired. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I thought you're also thinking, though, actor Wallace Sean. Yeah. When he said Wallace gone. I just read a great article about the actor Wallace Sean and all of his socialist and progressive actions over the last like 30 years. Oh, really? Yeah, he's fucking rad. Fuck, yeah. And kind of always has been.

And Wallace was played by Michael B. Jordan, by the way. Do you want to see Michael B. Jordan before he had that strong jaw. Yeah. Wait, what? Before puberty finally. I thought you were talking about it on Veronica Mars. And I was like, you know, Michael B. Jordan was in one in that yellow exterior. There are all of these actors that, I mean, obviously, like Kristen Bell, that's the show that kind of launched her.

But also like Tessa Thompson is in the entire second season as just like one of the girls at the high school. There's a lot of fun cameos from people who we know now. Amazing. That's really what I'm on the show to promote is just a rewatch of Veronica Mars. She had a pretty cool Chrysler-Labaron in the show, too. That car is pretty cool if you ask me. And her dad is played by Enrico Colentano, one of the best character actors.

Yeah. What is something you think is underrated, Jacob? Okay. So this might be a California-centric take, but I think that Katie Porter's crankiness is underrated. And this is my... So in California,

we've got a bunch of people running for governor, probably too many, and it looks like there's a chance that the two Republicans might win the jungle primary, which would be crazy. And I don't know why Katie Porter doesn't answer.

answer my texts. And she texts me, text her back. But, Hey, it's Katie Porter. I need your support. You're like, hey, Katie,

what's going on? Yeah, tell me about it. So here's what I think. I think Katie Porter is like perceived as or known as being kind of just like a cranky bitch. And I. Yeah, there were some interviews. There were she like bolted out of.

There was like, don't come back. You gave me COVID. There's like these all very minor anecdotes. Don't come back. Most of them are pretty minor. I will say like, I think a lot of the,

the people, a lot of the other Congress people that have gone on record about her, like, you know, they call it mom-splaining instead of mansplaining. A lot of those guys are men. But I think that, like, that's her superpower and she should lean into it. And I feel like she needs to have this like mad as hell moment where she's like, yeah, I'm fucking pissed off all the time. Aren't you? Doesn't it shit suck? Doesn't it suck that corporations run everything? Doesn't it suck that there's fucking corrupt, ridiculous mental patients in charge of all of the federal agencies like yeah I'm fucking pissed all the time and sometimes they get cranky and I'm sorry but don't you want someone like that working for you? Yeah I think it's funny too because when

you see like sort of mainstream outlets report about what the democratic field looks like in the gubernatorial race they'll throw what they immediately cast doubt on Katie Porter's campaign because she's a progressive you know because she doesn't take corporate money. Yeah they're like oh she's a staunch progressive but she's also like a whack job right and you're like I don't know so what the solution is a billionaire and Tom Steyer? Like, what are you talking about? I feel like we can trust those guys. I mean, they figured it out.

I'd prefer the person who likes to bring up like a whiteboard and explain how corporate greed works to the masses than a billionaire being like, I'm a nice one. Right. She's like if Kenneth Mieja, who's our comptroller in Los Angeles, or Maha'ia, I keep in. Yeah. Mejia, yeah.

If he was like not cool. Like that's like like like yeah Not posting as many dog picks Right he's just like you know A very smooth attractive dude And she is like a cranky soccer mom But I think that her crankiness is Is her superpower and she needs to turn it into

Something that she's proud of instead of something that she's running from And you keep texting her this but you're doing it Yeah I don't know why I don't know why I'm just whenever she texts may respond I'm the person that responds to those texts Like those fundraising texts as if anybody has seen them on the other side. And I'm like, no, Hakeem Jeffries, I won't because you need to stop doing blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Yeah. I'm like, Alexander Vindman, I don't live in Florida. Right, right. But yeah, because the rest you have is like Tom Steyer, you have the mayor of San Jose, Betty Yee, who was the state controller, Xavier Bacera. Like, you know, there's a few, like, you know, he came from the Biden administration. I'm not saying any of those people are bad. I mean, I think there's saying, and I'm saying Villaragosa should get the fuck out of here.

No, Virragosa should go. Tom Steyer should put his money behind Katie Porter and shut up. Swalwell has is like a, Swalwell to me always seemed like Newsom, you know, not even 2.0, just like Newsom 1.0. Well, he did himself in already. So now he's out. But, but, you know, slowly, hopefully,

there's only like two months. And I feel like no one's, no one in California is. Do we really think he's gone? Because he apologized to his wife for doing those things. But then he said he didn't do those things. So, what's everybody talking about? It started with like one accuser and it's now up to like three or five or something like that. He'll do a comedy special with Lucy K on Netflix.

He'll be on dancing with the stars by October. All right. Katie Porter, start answering your texts. Jacob is trying to contact you. Stop taking all this bullshit. I do. Yeah. I think that is probably a path like that.

that somebody needs to take that's just like furious and outraged. And yes, everybody else, everybody is, right? Yeah. I think it's hard when you're not Bernie and it's like hard, you know, it's definitely like a, I think it exposes some of the, you know, sexism in our society that like some of the same things that are endearing about someone like Bernie are a way to critique someone like Katie Porter. Right.

Yeah. She's wacky. Yeah. And also, yeah, we've never had a woman serve as governor in the state. Which is crazy. That is, yeah. God damn. What is something you think is overrated? I feel like this is.

Now, my answers just seem like so political now that I'm like hearing them in sequence. But I think, I think what's overrated is assuming California is very progressive and liberal. Because we're super not. A lot of people here. There's a lot of people here. But also the people that we think of as like California is so blue. like it's a lot of corporate stuff. It's a lot of, you know,

there was all this stuff that came out a couple weeks ago about all the state pensions being heavily invested in ice. I know that like, something I've been wanting to do for years, but just haven't had the time to do is like push my guild, the DGA to stop investing our pensions in fossil fuel companies and ice and weapons manufacturers. But like there's all these things where like,

I know we're going to talk later about stars coming together to talk about Paramount. and why that's bad. But there's like, there's actual shit that we can do that isn't lip service that I think in California we get very like,

well, it's already so blue. Like, it's not going to make a difference. Like, blah, blah, blah. And I think that's overrated.

It does. Yeah, for sure. Because people look at Gavin Newsom as some kind of star and like, oh, he'd be great. I'm like,

he's anti everything that's like progress. Like, he doesn't give a fuck about unhoused people. He's like, I don't know, like banish them to like a desert world where they'll never return. anti-worker he's like I don't know I'm a worker protections like it's it's just because he's not

saying racist shit out loud right and that he's he's like sort of on I think we're a couple months away from him saying racist shit pretty soon I think as he starts doing the trajectory of like you know the only thing he's ever wanted to do is be president I got to capture I got to have a big tent that's the thing I'm not a really big 10 and that'll include racist and we're only expanding right word we're only expanding right word and we are shrinking a little bit on the left where the tent is the tent's moving pretty fast it's moving tent well i'm sure the consultants are like all thinking about that right now because there's a the recent poll with trump and like white voters who did not attend college has like swung 30 30 something points in the in the wrong

direction like underwater in terms of wrong direction for trump for trump oh yeah we're a trump podcast jacob i didn't is that unclear yeah yeah from the stories it's kind of like the colbert rapport where we talk like we're on the left. Yeah. I mean, I think the whole like, I almost said Hassan Minaj, but the whole like Piker discourse, I feel like right now is like,

you could just hear the people who have always only made them. Like if I get another fucking text from James Carville being like, here's what Democrats need to do. I'm like, shut the fuck up. Like, if it's not a cameo you're doing in the 90s, I truly don't want to ever hear from you again. Yeah. Go fucking back to the swamp,

you bog person. Right. And it's it's, it's those people that, um, are all the people talking about. Look, uh,

my actual political knowledge basically caps out around 1990. Well, and I will keep applying the same lessons I learned up until that point in act as if we are in the same era. Right. Uh-huh. Cool. I can't believe all the names Jacob's dropping people he gets fucking texts for.

Oh yeah. Yeah. Like we get it, dude. A personal text. A personal text. A political person. Mm-hmm.

Political operative. All right. Let's. I also get texts all the time from, I got a from Barack Obama yesterday, so. Oh, okay. Wow. He told me what the latest was.

Here's the latest, Miles. I get a lot of texts from people, texts and emails from people on the right, which I think is because I made this video in the last election cycle that got me like half doxed by, there were all these text threads like Charlie Kirk and Marjorie Taylor Green

trying to like talk about me and my family, which is crazy. But I think that, people started signing me up for stuff as a way to like fuck with me. Most of it goes to my spam. So it doesn't matter. But I do see those fundraising texts all the time. And like they're equally as crazy as you would imagine.

Those are actually pretty entertaining to like look at what they're getting on that. You want me to go to heaven right? Give me money. You're like, give you money to go to heaven. If I give it to you, will you go right now? Man, that would be amazing. I wonder if you could pay him enough money to die. Like if you could just be like, look, this is a, probably not, right?

There's no grift in death. Unless it's other people's death. Right, right, right, yeah. But there's no grift in your own death. I don't know. I feel like you could get him to think he's, like, doing a smart negotiation, you know? I feel like if someone, if that was possible, I feel like what would have happened during the first Trump administration is someone would have just set him up on like either an old West Wing set or like whatever the set Tyler Perry has in Atlanta and just like let him think he's the president. for years. Yeah, like those Alzheimer's towns they have in like the Netherlands. Do they like,

yeah, yeah, for like people with like a Truman show for people who are. They like they go, they have little jobs they go into and interact and have like this like they don't want people just sitting around. It's like even if you have issues with your like memory like go like and it actually actually like improves their life and their memory. So maybe we'd be doing him a favor. They have those in everyone else. They have those in Japan and South Korea. Korea for children, too. I think there's actually one in the U.S. too, but kid town. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Those are funny. So they just did that for the elderly. I mean, not a bad idea, guys. Not a bad idea. Hey, don't forget the toil. Never forget the toil. Maybe if they're just like, as they're toiling, they're like cranking a big wheel that is like, you know, doing some electricity for us.

I'm just saying. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHeart Podcast presents soccer moms. So I'm Leanne. This is my best friend Janet. And we have been joined at the hips since high school.

Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drinks. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer?

Well, they had a bogo. Well, then you got it. Do you want a white collar something? Come up here. Just hit it. Oh, what are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? Oh, I would. Come on.

I would buy it. Cut through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky. I'm not a drug addict. You're lucky. I'm not an alcoholic. You are. I'm lucky I'm not a killer. I love this team, and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on.

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I don't know. You mean the like the president? You think Canada has a president. You think China has a president? Those law crusade. God, I love that thing. I use it all the time. I wrap it in a blanket and sing to it at night.

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We talk trade requests What's the vibe of that When it's like Your star player It's like Well I want to leave And then actually Now I'm gonna stay

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They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man. You can't be rolling around the city like this tonight before games, no, you know, doing this, doing whatever. And of course, family stories. They'll be like, Mommy, why did you miss that? Mommy, do you play basketball? Check out Game Recognized game with Stuy and Miles on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. It's nice to always check with Dr. Oz.

Oh, I love Jacob's reaction to the pretty good. Pretty good ad rates. Sometimes people are like, we're going to take a quick break and they check in or like talk, you know, I love just like, we're taking a quick break and we're back. We're back in the same breath. I love it. We don't do that. We disappear for a good two to three minutes. Great.

All right. Dr. Oz has recently let the world know that Donald Trump, he's our greatest purveyor of medical theories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, well, the medical sciences will be puzzling over for millennia. They continue to. They continue to, given even the state of his health and he manages to still be president. But, yeah, I mean, like the medical theories continue. The last one, if you remember, was, I take a fuck ton of aspirin.

So my blood stays thinner as thin as fine as my blood real thin. So he takes out so much aspirin that like heart doctors are like, yo, do you know. If you get a bloody nose, you will die, sir. It's so thin. It's thinner than Miles's mustache hair. But he insists on drinking Diet Coke all the time and soda. And we just found out because Dr. Oz went on Don Jr's triggered podcast.

to talk about this new fantastic medical theory that Donald Trump has about why Diet Coke and soda actually very good and will cure cancer. He'll first start off with candy bars, that little candy jar he'll call it. He'll hit the red button. And then comes to the Diet soda pops, which is your dad argues that diet soda is good for him because it kills grass. It's poured on grass. So therefore, it must kill cancer cells inside the body.

So he'll try. Please. I'm not going to argue this right now. You know, I'm not even going to argue this. Like, I think they're both looking's like, what a dumb ass. Even Don Jr. is like, ah, that's my fucking dad. He sounds like Elmer Fudd on cocaine. What is going on with Dr. Oz?

You're hanging out with Don Jr. do it? You know, maybe the little tray's coming out. The way you set up the clip, it sounded like they were, they were going to be like, you know, saying it was good. But even they think it's a joke. Yeah, yeah. They're last thing. But they're, because I mean, I think on some level, they're like, come on, dude, because it kills grass.

You're not going to have cancer? What the fuck is that? But I think it's funny, though, too, because they're not, they're just trying to, like, they can't immediately go, what a dumb fucking person. Because they're part of the machinery. So they're just like, yeah, he's got some, he got some ideas. He goes on because he also is a lover of Fanta, too. We were on Air Force One the other day, and I walk in there because he wants to talk about

something, and he's got an orange soft drink on his desk. Fanta. He drinks. He drinks Fanta. He's got Fanta. That's what I didn't want to say the brand name on the podcast. He's got a fan tie on the desk. And I say, are you kidding me?

So he starts to like sheepishy grin. He goes, you know, this stuff's good for me. He kills cancer cells. And then he tells me it's fresh squeezed. So how bad could it be for you? I mean, come on guys. The fuck. That's just crazy.

That's like, that's like a wacky old person talking like, why are you drinking that orange soda? It kills cancer cells. Oh, fuck. This would be. Yeah, this would be worrying if you were, Like, this would be the conversation you're having when you're like, should we take away his keys, you know? Like, he said that the fanta was fresh squeezed.

And he's like looking, he looked seriously like sheepish. I was like, it's fresh squeezed. How bad can it be? Well, first of all, asshole, it's not fresh squeezed. It's, I don't know where you got that. But that's like, that's like the logic I had when I was like 10 when I'm like, well, this is orange soda. It's based on a fruit. Do you guys find that having?

kids helps you understand him, though. I've found that. Like, the logic of, like, a kid having a tantrum or, like, someone who doesn't think something's fair that is just the way it is or, like, the kinds of tantrums my kids throw, I'm like, it helps me understand a lot of people. Children are, like, naturally, by nature, like narcissists, they go through a phase where they are unwilling to, like, grapple with the fact that there is a world besides them or that they, you know, aren't the most important thing.

thing in the world. Yeah. Like, and some people just never leave that. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like that. I just like the two, and I don't like it, but it's like though if, okay, so it kills grass, then it kills tumors, I guess. Right. Yes. But wouldn't that logic also suggest it would just generally otherwise destroy healthy organic material, just any material? Just cancer. So grass is tumors. So grass is tumors. So grass is tumors. this guy like it. It's sort of the, yeah, yeah. Like, well, chemo. He's like, well, what if it's like chemo?

What if it's the thing that's going to kill the bad thing? Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? So then how come that's not, how come people aren't touting this as an actual treatment for cancer then? I am telling it. So there you go. This is the same dude who six years more mentally fit ago was telling people to drink bleach.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the fact that we're even debating, like, this would be so funny if it wasn't such a fucking bummer. He wasn't threat, like, just pushing and pushing and like getting more dangerous and more willing to, like, talk about using nuclear weapons. Like, that seems like the wrong guy to be having this fun conversation about. Yeah, yeah. This person has no concept of how, like, even the most basic scientific concepts. So, yeah, I'm sure he has, he knows a lot about nuclear fallout that he can tell us. Yeah, that's actually good for you.

It's actually good. All right. So from that, let's get into, because as crazy as Trump seems in this moment, it's important to remember that if you look at everything that's happened in the past 10 years, as the people in power doing whatever is best for the banks and corporations, like everything kind of makes perfect sense. So there's this headline in the Financial Times that Wall Street banks break records as the Iran War drives trading boom. J.P. Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Wells Fargo reported more than $25 billion of profit for the first quarter. If you actually add, if it's if you take the top six, it's actually closer to 50 billion. Yeah, which is wild. Like that this report is leaving out like if you add up Bank of America, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs,

J.P. Morgan City and Wells Fargo, collectively, they were at $47.5 billion in profit. It's just everything that is bad for human beings. We have an operating system that it's not just like, for a while it was like humans are in the way. Like human people can get in the way of like corporate profit. And more and more, it's like everything that is bad for humans is good for them, essentially. Like I saw an article about the Disney layoffs. Disney's laying off 1,000 employees, and they listed as one of the primary reasons.

Disney is also trying to bolster at stock price that has been stuck despite a broader market rally in recent years. So it's like this is a thing you can do to get your stock price going in the right direction, is just firing 1,000 people. A thing you can do to have record profits as a, bank is to start a war with Iran. Or just say nothing, you know, because like all these,

all these bank CEOs is like, I don't know. I mean, yeah, because they want to write it out. Like they want to write it. Like they're trying to find that line where it's like they can, they can make enough trades and make, you know, make enough money without getting everyone killed. Like they want to, they don't care if they get a,

you know, a certain amount of people killed, especially if it's people who are in another country or they don't care about, blah, blah, blah. Right. But like, yeah, it, I, it's, it's fucking. insane. Yeah, because I mean, the whole thing is, right, they're making money off of how investors are in fear right now of like energy prices about AI. And they're profiting off of like all these people just like moving money around like, oh, fuck. And then you look because a lot of those banks just did

some stock buybacks too. So make sure they're putting money back into the investors' pockets. And they're like, hey, man, this is good for everybody, right? This is good for everybody. I got into a big argument. One of the episodes that we did for our podcast is that I don't know anything or I didn't know anything about the economy. I feel like now I have like a little bit of a handle on it. Line goes up equals good, right? That's all I know. That's all I knew. Um, so I found a Jacob Reed who teaches AP economics. And so I was doing like private, uh, tutoring with him to learn about the economy. And so one of the things like I came into it very much. Like, isn't this all just a fucking rigged bullshit? Because these companies are making so much money off of things that are

obviously bad for people. And his metaphor was like, you know, you cut down a tree and all we equate it with is like lumber, but not, you know, that it makes clean CO2 and it provides a habitat for animals and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he told me that one of the most interesting things to him in the world of economics over the last handful of years is that there's a group of economists who are capitalists who are so concerned about the way things are going right now, hurting capitalism forever, that they're trying to rein it in and come up with new economic theories to make us be able to count all of the things that we wouldn't quantify otherwise, like kids being alive, or habitats for animals, or oxygen, or whatever, so that capitalism

can work with those things because they see the world, even these people who are so pro-capitalism and who have PhDs in right economics economics economics yeah yeah communism yeah yeah communism yeah

I mean the episode is very much like I'm stupid and this guy's smart and he's going to teach me as much as he can and I'm still not that smart about it but yeah they're so worried about what's happening that like they actually are fearful about capitalism ending it's interesting to see how different

capitalists are responding to this like some people they're like, there's like, they're conscious and they're like, man, we got to figure this out because they're figuring it out that it's all on this economic system. Then there's like the million, the ethical millionaires. I forget what that group is. There's like a group of millionaires who are like, dude, we got like money has to start flowing the other direction like now or else like this is all bad. And then the other people are like, we need a fucking bunker, man. Right. To fucking get away from everyone and no one can quite get on the same page. But they at least are identity. identifying that this is a source of terrible pain and chaos.

It's just that it's just not close enough to them. It really. Yeah, like something massive is going to have to change because, yeah, I mean, there's been a massive movement. There's been like these carbon economies where like the value of like putting carbon, like taking carbon out of the atmosphere is like given a monetary value. And it's just not changing quickly enough.

And they're still finding a way. to, you know, like it, what, like, they won't openly say, yeah, we're for the war in Iran, but like volatility and chaos. And, you know, I, I started, like, the biggest revelation for me that we, this current system was doomed was when COVID happened. And, like, the companies were just, like, stage propelled at the top of the market. They're just like, yeah, we're actually good through this as, like, everybody was getting hurt. It's just like, right. They've completely isolated themselves from anything that is bad for people, and now they can just make things worse and worse and worse for people and keep making more and more and more money.

Which brings me back to California being liberal as of being an overrated thought, because so many of those companies are either headquartered in or have enormous financial stake in California, which is, depending on your metrics, the fourth or fifth largest economy in the world, if our governor in this state were not like, you know, just taking corporate money. and trying to be president, we could regulate things that would have a global, a national, if not a global impact just by virtue of California saying that that's how it should be, because that's what's better for people. Yeah.

Let's take a trip up the coastline, actually, to our good friends in San Francisco, where they, like, I think this is why AI is so good, is it just, like, allows them to further and, like, just isolate everything and make, like, monetary, that. completely divorced from what is happening to people, like in a way that everybody seems to love. All birds, the shoe company, just announced that they're pivoting from shoes to AI, and their stock has sort.

It doesn't like, I read the article to be like, okay, so this must make sense in some way. Like, they must have, like, some data set that they have from, like, their customers or, like, there must be, something that makes us make sense and it does not like there's nothing that it's just they sold their shoe business essentially and now they are a entity with a bunch of money who's like we're going to invest in AI and like start making some chips that people want and it's increased man it's

it's like a fucking satire like the stock market is a satire of like everything that's wrong well it's yeah because everything's about the processing power of AI now so other businesses like well shit yeah we can that. There was like an airline that also was like, yeah, you want to use our turbines? Like a company that built like the crazy, like a fast airliner was like selling its gas turbines to AI companies who needed energy for their date. Like everyone's like, oh, maybe we can like lop some of this off for this one though. It's wild too because all birds on April 7th said they had a press conference like, we've got a new canvas cruiser collection and a partnership with Pantone.

And then April 15th, they're like, yeah, man, we're pivoting to AI compute infrastructure. Everybody get fucked. Yeah. So, like this divide between the people who are in charge and getting richer off of all of this chaos and pain is very stark in the world of AI. So meta is reportedly hard at work,

creating an AI clone of Mark Zuckerberg that is currently being trained on his mannerisms and tone. Which that must be. I must be melting the fuck down. Are they using like sliders or like, okay, put Riz down to negative three? Manorisms, awkward as fuck. Okay, great. There we go.

This is like weeks, a couple weeks after the news that they're shutting down the metaverse and that the however many tens of billions of dollars that were put into that were all for nothing. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. You got to move on to the next thing because that's Wall Street is just like, okay, How do we find a thing that we can claim is a massive growth opportunity? People are expensive, and anytime you're tied to treating people well and having employees who do good work, you're actually anchored down.

And that's a bad thing. How do we 100x people get them the fuck out of here? So the idea here is that AI Zuck can attend meetings in his place and field questions from employees who will obviously feel more connected. to a digital simulation of their haunted mannequin of a boss. And it's... I love that. I hope that someone, like, that makes me want to get a job at Facebook or meta

just so that I can have a meeting with AI Zuck, just so that I can film that meeting. Yeah. And release it to everyone and ask him, like, hey, so do you, like, you know, how come you're, like, funding things that help fascism exist? how come your plan for humanity is to you? It's probably got like hot words that it filters out.

They're like, uh, Gaza, fascism, uh, all these other things. Oh, sorry, I don't know what you're talking about.

I got to go, actually. I have a meeting. I'm AI's up. It just gets a noseblee today. Mark Zuckerberg just gets a nosebleed. It's like you ask one of those. You know what I noticed actually that this are,

this, uh, this, uh, story is making me realize is that early, like, if you ever listen to those tech founder podcast,

they all are always like, that's a great question, Jacob, and I'm so glad you asked it. And they just, like, compliment each other and are, like, so pled because they've just, have this, like, human training that tells them that that's what you do. And then, like, that's actually the first place

I saw the personality that is now the AI personality, where, like, you ask it a question. It's, like, amazing question. Yeah. Which month is spelled with an X? That would be December. Great question.

Anytime you need me to answer anything else. I'm right here. Yeah, they've just transported their shitty CEO personalities into these AIs. Well, because they're all reading, like, they read similar,

like psychological psychology books or like the 48 laws of power and shit too. Yeah, like, oh, mirroring. And like they're all, like, they've really tried to, like,

quote unquote, optimize human interaction by this sort of like, you know, personality by numbers thing. And yeah, that, and then, it kind of works because look how many people are like out here being like,

everything it's saying to me is true. Right. Do you guys think that some of it is like him believing that he could have a consciousness? Like, do you think, because you know how like billionaires are obsessed with like immortality and living forever? Like, do you think that he believes that eventually if this is successful,

if the people in his inner circle who are yesing everything he says are correct, then he could just switch to being this omnipresent, you know, a hive mind of himself. Who knows? I mean, he's... It's hard to... The fact that we can't just rule that out and be like,

well, no, of course, that's fucking idiotic. Well, because all these people have some weird, like all these tech billionaires have at least one to eight screws loose fully. Right. You know what I mean? And like with Peter Thiel and his like anti-Christ obsession, you know,

Mark Zuckerberg thought like was doing his hair after Roman emperors and shit. Like, I'm sure he has some weird kid fantasy too where he's like and my brain will be a computer that will live forever i if i heard that i'd be like yeah fucking trucks but i do think there's also a detail where like to us who have like normal lives we're like yeah no that's so ridiculous that this thing that is like a malfunctioning hallucinating you know how to win friends and influence people uh personality like that that could replace us. But them, I think it could kind of because they are just a series of, they are those

things. They are just a series of like assumptions about like how that growth is the only thing that matters. And like Uber CEO also has like has tried to replace herself with a AI himself. himself. Eric, Jan from Zoom, built one to attend meetings he can't make. So I think they're like, I think they're telling on themselves that like they're just like,

yeah, like sure, you can replace me. I don't think, yeah, but that's what becomes clear to us. To them, that's not what they're seeing.

They're like, oh shit, they're going to realize I can, I'm on nothing. It's, to them, it's like another extension of their omnipresence or omnipotence. Right.

Unless money gets involved. they won't care. Unless it got to the point where someone was like, yeah, yeah, Zuck, you, you, AIU in the meeting gave me a 10% share of the company. And like, you, AIU agreed to it. Sorry, man. Like, unless something like that happens, they'll never, you know, three, four years from now, they'll quietly shut it down and be like,

oh, sorry, we spent, you know, 20 times the amount of money that's ever been spent researching child cancers into this, like, narcissistic, you know, tilting at windmills project. And like, whips. Sorry. Yeah. Salomon CEO. Is that, I don't know Salomon, but that's a comedy. Rushdie's company.

Yeah, Salman Rushdie's big Salman Rushdie's wildly capitalized. It's the outdoor company, I think. Okay. So their CEO was doing this, and he had an AI clone, and it wound up spouting brain dead hallucinations. And the team is currently working on reducing the chatbot's hallucinations. But yeah, it's every one of these models is stuck in the same. you know, like just

rattling off shit that like sounds authoritative and is full of hallucinations. They're like nobody can actually trust. So like what is the value? That's exactly what a CEO does. Right. Yeah. So like slowly telling on themselves.

They don't want us to know that, I feel like, right, you know? Have you guys ever watched? There was this show called Love of My Life or Made for Love. It was called Made for Love. It was on for two seasons, quickly got canceled.

It had the dude my brain is so character actor messed up. It had the dude who is one of the princes in The Into the Woods live action movie was like a CEO and Christina Malodi from how I met your mother and Broadway shows and blah blah blah. He's like married to her and Ray Romano

plays her dad. None of this is ringing bell to anyone. I think probably is why it was canceled. It's like one of the best depictions of a tech CEO being just completely fully insane and having people around them have to fix everything. thing. The premise is like

he tests a brain implant on his wife without telling her. Oh, geez. But it's a comedy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. And then her and her dad, Ray Romano, try to take down this, like, tech CEO guy. That's great. Sounds good. Yeah. Yeah. The

idea of testing one of those on your wife. Yeah. Jesus. All right. Anyways, it seems an experiment by the Harvard Business Review found that their AI CEO consistently, outperformed humans maximizing profit and growth while minimizing risks. I feel like that's the only positive experiment I've heard of with the use of AI.

So I do feel like, yeah, we got to get rid of AI, actually. Yeah, it's false for similar to those of human participants, although it seemed to fail more quickly. You could tell someone like, hey, we removed your child. We have killed and removed your child, and we replaced it with a, a metal box. And we've found that that metal box is actually way cheaper to, it's way easier to have in your house. Like, we say these things as if it's like,

the bottom line is the only thing that matters and it's, yeah. Like, these are like fully insane things that these people, sorry. But I do think we should just replace all CEOs with a, just let's see how it goes. This is my fix for billionaires.

If I ever ran for office, this would be my platform. Anyone with a billion dollars or more net worth goes into a lottery. And once a year, one of those numbers is pulled, and they have to fight a grizzly bear with no weapons. And you can get out of it if you donate enough of your money to get down to $999,000,000, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But if you're a billion and over, you have to fight a bear. And I think this would actually work. And then if you die, your money just gets redistributed to everybody. It is exactly like reverse hunger games. Yes. And so I think what would have to be. happen is if you told like Zuckerberg or Musk or like any of these guys, you can only keep your billion dollars if you fight a bear and win. How many of them do you think would go, well, I can't

fight a bear? That's ridiculous. And how many of them would go, I can fucking do it. I'm going to know Jitsu. Like, this would actually be a problem for other people, but I actually know Jiu-Jitsu and I'm pretty well-trained. Down to roll with a grizzly, dude. And the rest of us watch it on TV and the bear tears them apart. And then I think even other billion would just be like, ah, he couldn't make it, but I'm going to make it. I'm trying to start training now. That's right. Yeah. I like this. I like this. And the advertising would rival that of the Super Bowl would get. Oh, yeah. This Sunday, Elon versus the bear. Yeah. And you're like, go the bear. That bear would be so popular. It's a different bear every time too. Just, you know,

I like it being like a mountain, you know, in Game of Thrones. It's like, you're going to go up against the bear. The bear. Yeah. I think we like, there would be a whole media apparatus around, like, there could be an American Idol style thing where you get to, everybody gets to vote on the bear, like choose which bear, you know? Which bear? Yeah, that could be fun. Because there is, like, there, people do, like, follow individual bears, you know, online. There's, like, a subculture. Yeah.

There's Bear Week. when the bears emerge from hibernation and people, they're like tagged and like you can like follow them and see how they're doing. Oh, that's awesome. Isn't like fat bear week? I think it's like fat bear week is what they call. Oh, yeah, yeah. Actually, I think it's the week before hibernation.

And it's like, look how fat this guy. Yeah, a thousand plus stepping into the ring at 1,000 pounds. Yeah. Yeah, good luck, good luck. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. Money Players and IHeart Podcast presents soccer moms. So I'm Leanne.

Yeah. This is my best friend Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the hips since high school. Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast.

We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drink. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Well, then you got it. Do you want a white collar or something here? Just take it. What are y'all?

in microphones? Are you making a rap album? Oh, I would. Come on. Come on. I would buy it. Cuts through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky. I'm not a drug addict.

You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic. You're lucky I'm not a killer. I love this team and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Listen to soccer moms on the IHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I feel like it was a little bit unbelievable until I really start making money.

It's Financial Literacy Month, and the podcast, Eating While Broke, is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future. This month, hear from top streamer Zoe Spencer and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum-Pierre, as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up. If I'm outside with my parents and they're seeing all these people come up to me for pictures, it's like, what? But today now, obviously, it's like 100%. They believe everything. But at first, it was just like, you got to go get a real job. There's an economic component to communities thriving.

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When you listen to podcasts about AI and tech and the future of humanity, the hosts always act like they know what they're talking about and they are experts at everything. Here, the Nick Dick and Poll show, we're not afraid to make mistakes. What Kugler did that I think was so unique. He's the writer-director. Who do you think he is? I don't know. You mean the like the president?

You think Canada has a president. You think China has a president. Those law cruzette. God, I love that thing. I use it all the time. I wrap it in a blanket and sing to it at light. It's like the old Polish saying, not my monkeys, not my circus.

Yep. It was a good one. I like that saying. It is an actual Polish saying. It is an actual Polish saying. Better version of Play Stupid Games, win stupid prizes. Yes.

Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift, who said that for the first time. I actually thought it was. I got that wrong. Listen to the Nick Dick and Paul show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. What's up?

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And what we actually think On and off the court Nothing's off limits We talk trade requests What's the vibe of that When it's like your star player Is like well I want to leave And then actually now I'm going to stay

We talk tanking I mean honestly like I might get in trouble for this answer But I think it's like Definitely happening in the WMBA. And yeah, we talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to their side and was like, hey, man,

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or wherever you get your podcasts. And we are back. We are. And let's talk about this letter from Hollywood. The, our brightest stars. Yep, yep. Who do we got here? We got...

Yorgos. Yorgos, Lantamos, Brian Cranston, fucking Joaquin, Phoenix, Tiffany Haddish. It's like the full spectrum. J.J. Abrams, Fincher, Jason Bateman, Christian Stewart. Like, again, literally over a thousand, you know, creatives have signed on to this letter. Lynn Manuel Miranda. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your kid's favorite right now. My kid's favorite. Yeah, that's all the matters right now. Do they know that he did the music in Moana and would they care if they knew that? They're like, oh, we love his entire body of work. But then they're stopping it in the Heights. I was like, we could watch it in the Heights.

They're like, nah. I'm like, come on. What is it with people and in the Heights? I got shit going on, dad. I don't have time for in the Heights right now. But yeah, I mean, like right. I love for Us Navi. Yeah.

We're in the era of just gigantic mergers. And, you know, these mergers with gigantic studios, they're bad for everyone except the Craven bastards that stand to earn the money from said mergers. Right. And the influence that they hope to exert over set with, you know, that over like basically having their hand on the culture switch, basically. And yeah, this Paramount Warner Brother deal is no exception. And, you know, there's like the noises have been getting louder and louder because we also found out that there's. is like a group of Gulf state like sovereign wealth funds that are helping put up the money to make

the purchase happen. Right. So it's, yeah, it's it's, literally a plot point in the show industry, by the way. Not like, not with paramount, but with like all these Gulf states being like, oh, we can have soft power in the West

by doing, by bankrolling these kinds of mergers. Right. Are we talking to Louisiana, Mississippi? The Gulf states. No, Josh. Jack. Talking about Florida. Oh, yeah, yeah.

That's not good. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's, you know, you got to, anytime you can get MBS involved. You got to. Yeah, of course, of course. I mean, because also the California Attorney General Rob Bonta, they're investigating and trying to block the transaction.

So like the letter was also like, yeah, we support this. And also this is not good. This means, as they say, quote, fewer opportunities for creators, fewer jobs, fewer jobs across the production ecosystem, higher costs and less choice for audiences in the U.S. and around the world. And yeah, it's not just bad news for the industry. It's bad news for anyone who stares at a screen and likes to see shit that is different than the slop, you know, we're normally being fed. Or, you know, the choices begin to. I think, like, like, if you're out, like, like, you know, just talking to people, a lot of people watch the slop and don't even know it's slop.

It's, yeah. And I think on the other side of it, they, they could be shown something that's good. And I'll be like, oh, that's good. That's good. I think there's the total audiences that are not discerning at all. But I think even for the other part, too, like media will also just start disappearing with mergers like this with like cost cutting measures. We're like, show. You're like, wait, did that show exist?

Like, I can't find it streaming or in physical form anymore. Right. It's, yeah, yeah. I mean, but this, again, the purchasing power of California and of like, you have all of these actors, right, who are members of the different entertainment unions, which all together have billions of dollars in their pension funds that are all invested in the same things that these people are speaking out about. So, like, I'm not, I'm not hating on signing a letter. This is great. But if every single person who signed that letter was also vocal about getting SAGAFTA to divest from fossil fuels companies, from AI companies, from all of these things, I can't speak with authority about like to a company what they're invested in, but they are invested in all kinds of terrible stuff that like this kind of lip service is great. It's good to get people rallied. I don't mind seeing the cast of the West Wing do a million different, you know, speeches at a million different programs. protests. I truly love seeing every one of those people, but it will not move the needle the same way that people being like, hey, you know what, all, however many billions of dollars in all of the

entertainment guilds and then also in CalPERS and CalPurg and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, have now divested completely from fossil fuels. Like, that would hurt the people trying to buy Paramount more than a letter like this. Right, right. Yeah, that's a level of action that I think, Yeah, that's like three moves down the road when it's like too late. And like, oh, maybe we do the thing now that actually gets to the heart of it. But there's got to be some, like, it's not me. I have no money. I have no control over anything.

But like there's got to be someone more powerful than me. I mean, anyone is more powerful than me. But there's got to be someone who could be like, hey, let's do this thing. Like we all did the fucking ice bucket challenge. And, you know, like people stop drinking from plastic straws while, while putting paper straws through plastic lids and plastic cups without seeing that connection. Yeah, yeah. Someone's got to be able to do something.

Yeah. The divestment piece is something that I think people are still trying to wrap their heads around, like understanding what divestment actually means, like in a macro sense. But yeah, I totally agree. I mean, I'm listening to you guys talk about these six banks that are fucking over everything. Like, I still bank with one of those banks. I totally shouldn't. I should be in a credit.

But it's, I don't know. No excuses. It's hard to pull everything out. It's like a whole couple weeks of paperwork that I don't have. Do we have, has anyone looked at the types of movies that Paramount's been greenlighting under Allison? Like, do we have a sense of what his tastes are from,

because like, we know what, like CBS News was, that, that hasn't gone well. Like, that's, that's been bad.

In the past, he's made movies like Top Gun Maverick and like the Mission Impossible movies, which is, it's not like daily, wire studios, but those are movies where, like, the forces of empire are the heroes, you know? Right. Like, what if empire struck back and we were happy for them?

We were like, yay, the empire. But even still, the dudes who storm the Capitol think that they're the rebels in those movies. Like, even if the movie. Andor and they're like, yep. Right. That's us, dude. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Anyways. I'm basically on Narcina 5 right now, dude. Got to break out of this. in place. Well, Jacob, such a pleasure having you on the Daily Zykeyes. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? Honestly, the best place to find me and all of the other Jacobreeds is Jacobreedammeet.com. And there's a couple more episodes of the podcast coming out. We're in the middle of our first season. And I don't usually drink the Kool-Aid

of what I'm doing. I'm pretty self-deprecating, but there are other people working on the show, including the executive producer of Chef's Table, and someone who's a former producer on This American Life. And there's really, really smart, talented people working on this show with me and helping me seem a lot cooler and better than I am. And we just got a great write-up in The Guardian. And it's a good show. I really believe in its quality, especially if you like independent things that are just

weird. Like, if you like a podcast where someone's going to learn enough about economics to spend three months writing a book about economics with another person that has their name and then get banned from Amazon over it, that this is, this is, the kind of show that you will enjoy. Amazing. Yeah, go check it out. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying, maybe besides your own show?

Yeah, besides my own show or besides Veronica Mars. I've been really loving this new season of jury duty. Yeah. I know I'm not the only one because Amazon tells me it's trending as one of the top shows. I'm trying to think if there's something more like niche that I like. there's a podcast a podcast that's not mine that I really enjoyed.

It's only three episodes. It's called Phantom Memory or My Phantom Memory. And basically this doc crew followed around one of the swings on the Broadway Phantom of the Opera for like the last eight weeks of performances after he was on the show for 20 years. And it's kind of this really

patient and interesting look at like someone who's been an actor on Broadway for 20 years and what does it feel like to be on a show like that? And that probably makes it sound boring for people who aren't actors, but it was just, like, fascinating and cool. And it's only three episodes. I thought it was great. Nice. That sounds amazing.

Miles, where can people find you as their work in media you've been enjoying? Yeah, there's a couple I like. First of all, you can find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. I'm talking about 90-day fiancé on 420-day fiancé, also talking about the sport of European football on Ain't Footy with Jamel Johnson and Chris Martin. A little post I like from Blue Sky at Gunny jkj.j.com. He's got a social posted. Your reminder, and you young folks may not relate to this, that America without black people is Pat Boone singing Little Richard songs.

That's just, if you need to learn about it, learn yourself. You can look into history. It's bleak. It's bleak back there. Yeah. God damn. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien, Blue Sky, Jack O, B, the number one.

Instagram, Jack underscore O, underscore Brian. I like this from Casey Klein. on Twitter said the thing that reliably distinguishes New Yorkers from other Americans is a reflexive awareness of when they are in the way. That's true. And my children do not possess that. They're from Mr. McGuville. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zekegeist. We're at The Daily Zekeist on Instagram.

You can go to this episode wherever you're listening to it. look in the description at the bottom there. You will find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think the people might endure?

Yeah, just some nice, you know, get some honey in your hips, you know, as Little Richard said. And look, look up with the when Pat Blune covered Tootty-Fruity, because that's what we're really referencing here. What the fuck? But this track is called French Basin. Nova by Laji Mouflai L-A-D-J-I-M-O-U-F-L-E-T. I believe this is like a producer from the UK, but just really nice sort of like flip on, you know,

Basanova sounds and just something a little dancey. Feels light, feels good. So French bossa Nova by Laji Mouffle. Yeah. This is one of the songs that when I was playing it right before we started recording, I was like, hold on, everybody, shut the fuck up. Hold on. What is this?

Well, I download this to my iPod. The Daily Zykeyes is a production of IHeartRadio for more podcasts from My Heart Radio visit. The IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, for wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us. This morning, we're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending. And we will talk to you all then. Bye. Bye.

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