The Daily Zeitgeist - Bannon’s Homeschool Army, Cop Some Jordan’s (Underwear) 9.29.21

Episode Date: September 29, 2021

In episode 998, Jack and Miles are joined by host of the Space Cave podcast David Huntsberger to discuss the shitshow on the hill, are you fan enough to buy use underwear? Steve Bannon and the homeschooling culture war and more!FOOTNOTES: Bit of a shitshow on the Hill… Even Before Steve Bannon, Homeschooling Was a Part of the Culture Wars Are you fan enough to buy used underwear?  Deb Never - Coca Cola Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That was a quick one. Yeah, yeah. It's a production of iHeartRadio, and it's a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's Shared Consciousness, and it's Wednesday, September 29th, 2021. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I've hiked through the desert in some jorts with no shame. I got some chafing relief from the rain. Because in the desert, thy definition's no game. And if there ain't no pain, then there won't be no gain i'm saying and then you know the rest that is courtesy of lex loogie and i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray

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You know I love a Family Matters theme song. I was trying to place it. That's right. Family Matters. But you kind of started out in a deep, gravelly place like the original Family Matters theme song. Yeah, I had to channel that. And then you kind of lose focus,

and then it becomes its own thing. Well, my holes. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious and talented comedian, podcaster and artist who hosted the classic podcast. Professor Blastoff hosts the ongoing podcast Space Cake draws some truly hilarious comics and his new stand up special animation cinematographical extravaganza, big nothingness, all of which you can find on davidhuntsberger.com, which was a smart place to put it all because that's his name. Please welcome the brilliant, the talented David Huntsberger! Oh, thank you.

Wow, what an introduction. What's up, man? Not much. Good to see you guys. It's great to see you. much. Good to see you guys. Yeah, it's great to see you. Yeah. It was good to see you. You guys are the final, well, not to give too many spoilers away, but in Big Nothingness in the thank yous, the Z, Zeitgeist, the last note, the final note of script.

So you guys, thanks for letting me promote, I think the live show that I was doing when we taped it. Right before everything shut down. Yeah. And the haircut was, when did the haircut come? Oh, right. I believe the last time I saw you, you were looking real Jesus-y, which was the, I'm assuming you cut your hair right before the live show? Yeah.

The day of. your hair right before the the live show yeah that the day of we shot some stuff with the long hair early in the day and then uh the hairstylist came in cut it all off and then we kept it so we could uh donate some of it and then she just trimmed the rest and everyone was like is that gonna be so weird to get you something i don't care it is a little weird because you're you don't your hair is kind of like just walked outside and seen the sun for the first time in ages. So it's just, it's not acting normal. It just has different, like, I want to curl this way or whatever it's doing. But yeah, it was the day of.

It was a real, like, Christian Bale type dedication to the project. Two feet long hair, whatever it was. People need to go check it out to kind to fully appreciate what we're talking about. But it is... There are those stand-up albums that have the weird short film at the beginning of them, and then it just goes into a regular stand-up album.

But this is an entire work-of-art film that has a stand-up album kind of or a stand-up special embedded within it i highly highly recommend it oh thanks man yeah man i've been calling it a presento just because i think the term special is so ridiculous i mean it's comedy is supposed to be silly and dumb and yet there's's this name, like I've made a special, I've made a special for so weird to me. So, yeah. And I just think it's different. So I've been calling it something else, but thanks, man. I'm glad you watched it. I appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I called it extravaganza, but I like that too. Yeah. Presento is nice as well. All right, David, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.

First, we're going to tell the listeners a few things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about the shit show on Capitol Hill, all the political maneuverings that are and aren't happening. Yeah, when there's just one thing that could solve it all. Yeah. happening yeah when there's just one thing that could solve it all yeah uh we'll talk about uh steve bannon's homeschooling campaign to get conservatives the hailstorm of mothers or whatever the fuck he's calling it uh to get to homeschool homeschool their kids uh we will talk about how like the levels of fandom have just kind of reached a new a new high.

And that is where buying the used underwear of your preferred celeb. All of that. Plenty more. But first, David, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? I just looked it up. I know I normally come on and I'm like, I don't really have. I usually do it all in private browsing because I hate the feeling of when an ad comes into your thing.

I'm like, oh, are you thinking about that? But I was looking up free use music and this is kind of a long story. So I'll make it as short as possible. But so Big Nothingness was supposed to come out Friday and I had years prior reached out to this band and said, hey, I'd like to license this song. A person in the band said, sounds good. Let me contact you with a label person. The label

person said, yeah, just show us what you've made. And as long as they like it should be a breeze. And then I just somehow conflated that in my mind that the band said, yeah, you have it. You have the song. It was just like one extra step. So it was close. And then I'm, I had it edited and done for quite a while before it came out. And I just forgot. I'd think of it every now and again driving like, oh yeah, when I get home, I need to send them. I just kept forgetting until like a week beforehand. And the woman at the label who'd been so polite, no longer worked there. And the other people were like, we'd like a lot of money. We'd like a lot of money. And I was like, yeah. And so I had to just, and I was up in the woods. I had no internet. I would have to like race down, use this horrible Wi-Fi, but then my computer battery would die. So I'd zoom back up the hill and turn on a generator and plug, like charge my laptop back and forth.

And then luckily, my friend Andy Krest crest who goes by the name krestovsky had a song that i had on a hard drive and i messaged him like dude can i use this he's like absolutely so the end music you hear is like this last minute it reminded me of like when the south park guys you know at six minutes to like turning shit in right before the end it kind of this wasn't the same sort of demand as like a comedy central episode of south park but the feeling of of the rush was was definitely similar so cramming it together yeah yeah that's actually a little behind the scenes is that's sort of how we got the theme music for our show was through uh you know miles having some music from a friend on a hard drive and us being like, this music is amazing.

And then him just reaching out and being like, hey, could we use some of this? Hey, can I use this? Hey, is it cool? Hey, can I use this? He's like, yeah, yeah. He's like, that beat that I made is a joke? I'm like, it's no joke.

It's not a joke to me. This is my whole identity on the internet. This trap beat will live forever. Dude, I totally understand. I totally sympathized with the thing of like oh yeah i gotta put a pin in that i'm gonna do that when i get home and then it turns into a fucking nuclear apocalypse when you're like i i couldn't absolutely i'm like i binged all of narcos i had the time i could have done this right and the whole time i was just sitting there like well not a lot i can do now just got to kind of wait and then this launch date will happen and then that scramble yeah it's just the worst feeling because

i was so falsely comfortable people would ask me like i like that song and i go yeah it's a funny story i got the rights to that like right out of the gate and then looking at that email chain and just kind of that sinking feeling of like oh yeah i don't have it yeah brutal the whole uh infrastructure of people like i i sometimes think about this when i'm driving somewhere in los angeles and in the middle of the day. And I'm in traffic and I'm like, what do all these people do for a living? And then I think back to any time I've tried to get music rights or a movie clip licensed.

And I'm like, oh, right. It's all of... For every one person who's actually creating something, there are a hundred people who are just sending and receiving emails about getting paid and paying each other for the use of that thing. It's so annoyingly complicated. It is. It didn't take away my love of the initial song because I cut the cord on that as fast as possible. Because once it starts to become those sort of vultures pecking off their slice of it, I was just thinking like, how much of this money that you want is truly going to this artist? I would guess way less than this. I'd rather just pay them directly and be like, hey, can you write a song?

As opposed to the feeling of dealing with that, of that. It's just awful. And this whole project was the opposite of that it was people like oh yeah i want to help i like doing creative stuff i need something to do during a pandemic so anytime someone was like i'll do it but i need x amount of money i was like it's just not a good fit it's not that i don't like your thing it just it's not the spirit of it right yeah totally and the song was let It Be by the Beatles, correct? It was. Those guys are tricky. Evidently, they got pretty popular at one point.

I did not know that. Just a song my grandma would sing to me when she'd wash my hair. I didn't think it was anything more than that. I thought she made it up. She was very musical. In fact, I do remember being in like a jewelry store wasn't hearing a very similar sound and i thought oh sweet they covered my grandma but never occurred to me she always said it was her song she made up i'm gonna dispute that with them i'm gonna dispute that with them yeah oh and her name was beady what if if, guys? I get in there. I find out they stole their whole damn catalog.

I find this recipe book full of lyrics. I mean, I don't want to rule it out. Yeah, exactly. That's the version of the Beatles movie that we need. Yeah. Finding out that the Beatles, they did exist. So we don't have to do that flight of fancy. But they just stole all the music

from yeah somebody in your family they were in germany you know right yeah upon your grandmother's oh and your your grandmother was working at the burlesque bar where they were playing yeah every night was a dancer and gave them all their songs wow what is this like what's that shakespeare movie that was like kind of doing a similar thing like can you imagine a real earnest what's that like earnest like sort of conspiracy version of like who shakespeare was or he was like a highborn like lord yeah i've that one is i i find that conspiracy theory and the obsession with it problematic because it's well of course it's just the house of Lords being like, it must have been a highborn person. No, but I would love a movie that just

piss Beatles fans off like, nah, nah, nah, it's not where they got it. You need to take this serious. Alright, well we will after we record, we'll break that story more. Oh, that'd be fun. Let's at least dig into it.

Put some note cards up on the wall. Yeah. See if we can get a first act together real quick. Hi, what started as a joke led us down a really wild path. And thanks for joining us where we get to the bottom of real dramatic music. That's Dave So-and-so.

He's talking about their time in Berlin. And when I first met him, I thought, it's a kid. It's an NPR show. Falls in the wall under investigative journalism. Yeah.

Starly kind narrates. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man. What is something you think is overrated? Guys, I said this last time and I feel so bad, but I think as much as we're frustrated with people and their reactions to the science with COVID and we're frustrated with people going,

I don't think it's what it is and every everything that from the science goes yeah yeah you should take this more seriously we are dealing with that uh and the next big one obviously is going to be climate change and i think i said this last time but sneaker culture is the fucking worst like stuff made by kids in sweatshops as a commodity that is not necessary. People are homeless on the street, no shoes and be like, oh, this one's tangerine. It is the most manufactured, unnecessary, textile, wasteful thing you could have on the planet. All those shipping containers falling in the ocean, large amount of them with shoes. I know this hurts to hear. You're probably angry at that. You're like, I have some on hold right now. I have my Levi Jordan 4s behind me.

But what you are by doing that is someone's uncle who wears their mask under their nose. That's you. Yeah, I mean, in the broad scheme of things. It's wild to sort of look at, especially like where we're at in society with like things rapidly declining in many different ways like how consumer culture and these other ways are like manifesting and like overdrive with like fast fashion i just saw like a like a dude's like sneaker room that was like the size of like like a like a substantial bedroom that was just all shoes that had never been worn and like this sort of idea of like look at this my stale stock that i will just gaze upon and i'm like i love

sneakers like i'm i've they're they're my shit but over the years i've had to have to sort of a reckoning with what it means to overpay for something that you wear on your feet and like the the marketing aspects of it too because so many shoes are meant to like create this false sense of scarcity to like get people to buy a ton of shit and then you start looking at you know other ways to subvert that market through you know replicas and things like that but yeah it is it is wild to kind of see this like embrace of like these temporary objects when in a way i'm like those things you're not gonna be able to eat those like no this they're like even like i've had to consider like what does it mean to put your hard work hard-earned money into these sort of things and

does that help me for the future or what i think i'll need for the future yeah yeah i feel like very few nikes have the type of shoe leather that once we're all starving we can like soak in water and eat like like the party that's why you got to get new balance the shoe you can eat yeah i do love uh you know my miles made brief reference to it but the the replicas just you know the people whoicas, the people who are knockoff artists who will get you for a much lower price, basically the exact same shoe, is a good way to subvert the market. or replica sneakers versus like retail versions that you buy from Nike. And you can tell that people have like this spot where they realize like, but that's not real. And then you're like, but you didn't know that. And you're looking at it and you responded to it as if it were real. So what is that actually saying? But then people are going to, then I'm going to know it's like

that you knew that you threw away $2,000 on a pair of shoes. Yeah. Like, so, so what is, what is the value system? Is it to, to signal to other people that you are a reckless spender? Um, or, you know, like, is it about a shoe? But I think it's, I think these are all kinds of the many things that come into focus, especially as like, you know, the, the, the chasm between haves and have nots widen. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely, it's basically the metaphysics thought experiment, the ship of DCS, because it's being made in the same factory by the same, you know, we using the same material. It's just not like official official and so it costs like a thousand dollars less but what does that mean about me i'm i'm over leveraged in a world where it's all about what

you can buy and the drip yeah donate the the money you're saving to to a good cause but thinking of the the things that we manufacture to keep life sort of like keep us moving, keep that wheel turning, you know, I wonder how many athletes win a Super Bowl and then they just kind of look at this trophy and they're like, this was just made up. Like a bunch of people just decided this was the thing we should all go for. And then they wear a ring and they're like, someone told me this was like going to make my life feel worthwhile. And then they even get like the Hall of Fame jacket. And they're like, this was all just created. It's not this isn't like a tangible, real thing.

It's just manipulated, manufactured by humans to say, you did it. This is success. This is really success. And then we chase those with like, I think if I have all these shoes or if I have this type of car or whatever it is, I've succeeded. I've done it. People will give me a stamp of approval on life but you know it's funny i i used to believe that so much like if i have this then

i can be happy and it takes and i had to really go down that path to a point where i realized that shit is so fucking foul made up uh not real and that you when you reverse the things try being happy first and a lot of other things will fall into place when you make things conditional like that it can really hold you back and actually prevent you from you know like you're saying like enjoying like much more simple things than like attaching it to like attaining something or having a certain job or living in a certain place and yeah like chasing that dragon will fucking exhaust you um that's why like yeah i i got very much into like positive psychology where a lot of that is like dealing with things like you we have to sort of rethink how we talk

about bringing ourselves like an optimal place emotionally like with our happiness yeah my dad is a basketball coach and he went from getting fired from the University of Dayton like to he became the assistant at University of Kentucky and they won the championship like three years later. And what you just said was literally like the first time I like had a quiet moment like talking to him after it. That was exactly what he was just like yeah you know like the thing it's not like some moment where you're like ah and now i can rest you like immediately realize that it's all about like the challenge of like getting there was like the thing that you should have been enjoying the whole time it's it's for sure the the case what is something you think is underrated this one frustrates me because i this was like a month ago or so and like in the middle of the night i was doing i was

putting some dishes away or something and i was like oh that's a great one i thought something i really believe and just like the goddamn song i didn't write it down i was like that'll come back to me and man it was something so simple but i don't know i guess hey making a to-do list huh the notes i'll go with that i think like having all your shit organized so underrated that it gets knocked on like it makes you you know people will kind of paint you as like you're uptight or you're a little too like what you know organized it's so underrated you just the stress and clutter that goes away with having all that shit in line well yeah that's shit i'm dealing with now you know like i i used to be like i got that i got that i'll get it done and it's in your mind or i'll write it on like loose scraps of paper and you know now my shit

looks like i'm working on like a new season of cereal with like it on like loose scraps of paper. And you know, now my shit looks like I'm working on like a new season of cereal with like all these like loose papers, like joint, like smashed together. And I'm like trying to make sense of what the fuck I was trying to do. Where now, like I very much use my like notes app with like the checkbox feature on my list. So I can be like, Oh, I have to do that because a lot of the times I'll procrastinate to just avoid the stress of engaging with the thing that I have to do or ask someone for something or get something done that it's easy to be like, OK, I'll get to that. But then that shit just weighs on me a lot more than I actually realized versus just like when it happens, like either address it immediately or put that shit down to do immediately. like either address it immediately or put that shit down to do immediately because then so much of that shit just fades away because i'm like i know that actively like that's right i'm gonna engage with this and i get i do i think some of it too can be a little subconscious like you're

you're almost sort of challenging yourself as if i don't even know what it's like like walking on ice or something or you're like if i fall through i only have myself to blame you'll have a good idea or if this happens all the time with stand-up you're like i if I fall through, I only have myself to blame. You'll have a good idea. This happens all the time with stand-up. You're like, I should write that down. And then sometimes, and I know certain things have just faded into vapor, and I never wrote them down because part of my brain was like, ooh, I kind of like having it out there, and I didn't grab it. I didn't bring it in and write it down.

And then afterward, when you forget it, you're like, why did I even chance that? Fuck for it. There's no reason to do that. It used to kind of be like, oh, well, if it's a good one, it'll stick around. I'll remember it. And that's so dumb.

Yeah, not true. You'll get into a mode too where you're like, man, I forgot better jokes than this motherfucker putting on the album. And then I'm like, yeah, but you forgot them. But you forgot them. That's part of it. Part of it is making them tangible in my tangible my my i want to remember my shoes i'll be dominating on this court right now my socks on the bench

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puny and not what is needed, and then the $3.5 trillion Build Back Better package that seems to be more in line with what we are facing. And because it's the Democrats, their plan was to keep them both around. You know, got to keep keep both moving in tandem, which is ridiculous that they're even considering that. But now they're not even going like they're saying they're going to vote on the bipartisan one that they don't want before they vote on the one. Yeah, because the whole point was to pass the three point five trillion dollar reconciliation package and get that. They did. And they're like, so like, hey, Senate, get that shit done. But also but we're clearly that's still just being negotiated as Manchin and Sinema and many other people. And even in the House, there's like there's just so much wavering about what's around what should happen.

And even in the House, there's like there's just so much wavering about what around what should happen. So now it's like, well, fuck, like Pelosi sort of statement was something to the effect of like, hey, well, you know, things are changing rapidly. So we're just going to have to adapt to the situation like we may have to bring this to a vote sooner than we anticipated. Meanwhile, you know, progressives have been holding out saying, like, if this reconciliation shit does not pass, don't look for us to vote for this infrastructure package. Like these like we need to have an actual robust social safety net that is being essentially teased in this larger reconciliation bill. And so there's like a balancing act of, well, how do we please them? How do we please moderates who don't want anything to change? And it's just becoming like more and more of a headache. Like apparently Pramila Jayapal was like on the phone with like Kyrsten Sinema, like trying

to like get her to come around to like understanding like, hey, I don't know what you keep saying, like you're worried about how it's paid for, but we're going to pay for it by changing the tax codes to be able to, you know, shift the burden to like the hyper wealthy. And while also, you know, relieving taxes for just normal people. And we're still kind of in this stalemate. So that's been a terrible thing to watch because it's Biden's entire fucking agenda, essentially, as we go into a midterm year and meanwhile that's not the only fucking problem we got mitch mcconnell getting his senate goons together to basically they voted to block a bill that was going to keep the government funded and prevent a shutdown and now they're also

talking all this shit about the debt ceiling and perhaps having the government default because it won't raise the debt ceiling even though democrats were doing that because they know it's just you just don't want to be the party that's saying no to that because essentially it's needed to give many American people all kinds of services. So now it looks like McConnell is trying to manufacture maybe a recession so he can point the finger at Joe Biden. So they have something to go into into the midterms. And the sad thing is you could get so many things done if you just got rid of the fucking filibuster. Right. And they're not good.

They're not considering that. Because why? I don't know. I've I've I've only read so many headlines about all these contingency plans that they have in the House and Senate. Well, if there's a plan, there's plan B,'s plan c and none of them are like just use our fucking majorities and right like is it just mansion is mansion the main if he were to say like yeah i'm now in favor of the filibuster would it immediately happen or did they just go like oh we don't have him and we don't have it there's also k Kyrsten Sinema who's been, you know, it's like, especially with mansion and cinema,

they've been clearly selected by big business to put like the full court press on them. Like whether it's to, you know, run ads that like question their ability to hold office, like more from another standpoint or just showering them with donations to block certain measures that would kind of begin to have a not huge shift, but a pretty substantial shift in how we do business in this country. So they're kind of like these fixed figures who are using a lot of like think tank talking points that aren't real to sort of explain their position.

Well, let me ask you this, because it seems like you're passionate about it. And with passion, there comes optimism. And do you remain optimistic? Because you just mentioned like big business, the powers that be, the string pullers. It seems like an unwinnable situation regardless. It seems like the things that have a grip and maybe generationally, the next generation will just all be like, oh, I'm not voting for this person. There's a ton of money behind them. And we'll have to like put that in their heads of just keep an eye on that. That's going to be the biggest decider. I mean, it's not I don't know if I'm necessarily optimistic for what happens here. I am. Unfortunately, I just feel like it's like most Americans that it's not enough to explain very clearly what has to be done to prevent absolute strife for people. And then the strife has to occur and bodies pile up and then people figure it out. I'm optimistic that that process might work. But don't you think, I mean, 670,000 dead and people being like, I still don't want

to wear a mask. I mean, maybe we've transcended that period of people giving a fuck about people laying dead on the street. Yeah, I know. I think we're also like, you know, this kind of goes along with there's there seems to be a reorganizing of society, especially like in America. And I imagine all over the world, too, like where there are people who are willing to actually acknowledge real issues that are occurring and pain and suffering and deal with it. And there are people who would rather turn it into an abstraction to just turn it into a talking point and not really look at it as these are the, these are actual outcomes dealing with human beings. And I think that's a lot of it is connects to with like people who, you know, whether you are

denying the pandemic because you yourself don't want to acknowledge that you're living in a world that is completely out of your control and like in the form that a fucking virus could threaten your life. Or, you know, like they're sort of expressing itself in many ways. I don't know. I honestly it's hard to say. to see that progressives in the house are saying we absolutely will not bow to this because they under like at least this small group of people have an understanding that something substantial needs to occur a to just keep like progress happening but also to get deliver people like real tangible outcomes that they can then take to a ballot box and understand like, oh, right, this works. I honestly, I'm but overall, I'm very cynical because as long as, you know, corporations have outsized influence like this,

it's going to I don't know how you really go up against it unless people are really able to decouple themselves from all the propaganda that they see. Do you think it's at least partially that like what we've talked about before on the like, how much of it do you think is corporate influence and how much of it do you think is intentional decisions being made by the Democrats that they realize that basically since Trump like became like got elected, I guess, is when the switch would have happened that it is now in their best interest to always remain in a dialogue with republicans because all their energy has come in relation to like republican awfulness yeah like the accepted wisdom on elections is you never win an election by getting people to vote against someone. And

like they just upset that and like had the most votes in the history of an election that was basically just because they were defined in opposition. Like, I just wonder how much of it is like them sort of catering to and allowing this toxicity of the Republican Party to fester, because just within like just as an institution, the Democratic Party, as it's currently constituted, that is what they are. you know say so and like what what you know the republicans get to determine the fucking like platform and then they just decide uh define themselves in opposition yeah i i i don't mean to say that the democrats by any stretch of the imagination have the pure intentions as it relates to fucking anything right because we like we've looked at how leadership of both parties has brought this country to this point already with the same ideology. And it's really not built on upsetting the financial system that we have in this country or creating, you know, a system that is helpful to working people or people in need.

benefit from just being able to be like, oh, man, can you believe what the Republicans are doing? Oh, golly, you guys should send me 50 bucks so I can fight this. And the Republicans do the same thing, because at the end of the day, like Republicans are just there to halt any kind of progress and to regress. And the Democrats are using an air of progress to sort of paint a more optimistic picture. But when you look at the tools available to them to bring about the progress and they're just sitting on them it's hard for me to believe like what's your actual end game here because if it is what you're saying you have the tools there then fucking use them and like all of this talk like well you know like what if they get in power it's like yeah, yeah, we know. We know what's going to happen.

But you're going to just fucking sit there? So then what the fuck is this? Yeah. All right. So we'll keep an eye on that one. Anyway, a shit show. A complete fucking shit show. And again, and this is, like, so important. Like, this is, like, you know, prior to this, like, I think fucking the Affordable Care Act

was probably, like, the biggest thing that was being proposed on the Hill that would bring about all kinds of change. And that went from a really great idea to this other sort of mutant version. So in a way, that's probably what's going to happen here. Like, I don't I'm definitely not optimistic that the three point five trillion dollar version that Joe Biden was like, hey, this is going to help America. I don't I don't see that working. Right. Republicans can't allow something that is that successful to get passed because then like that's such a big win for the Democrats. Yeah. And then the odd part is they would never themselves propose any legislation like that because it would completely upend how they do

business with their donors. Right. How did the so the the whole thing about the debt ceiling where the like it's a, you know, the national debt is an issue that suddenly becomes important to Republicans whenever Democrats in office and then that completely disappears as an issue the second republicans president like how did the shutdown happen under trump do you remember the dynamics of that uh what the fuck was it wasn't god that was like at the end of the year i'd have to remember like what exactly was going on and it was one that remember they that was like a thing where Trump was like, I'll own the shutdown. I'll own it. It'll be me because he wouldn't negotiate.

That's right. That's right. And then that's what happened. And it wasn't necessarily the best story for them. But prior to that, they were voting to raise the debt ceiling. Because they just, like, even when Trump was in office. But, I mean, when you look at sort of the debt that we were looking at now, it's mostly been at the hands of the Trump administration. I mean, not to say that we weren't in debt before that, but a lot of it now is from just all that runaway fucking spending and giveaways from the Trump administration. But I've noticed that there's a theme here is that I feel like we're a bit naive or, again, like collectively a bit optimistic in that like the system can be reined around, brought back into focus where it's functional.

But if you look at all the drug lords, they all have the same trajectory with absolute power corrupting and that like they're giving money to all the communities they're from in the beginning. And then as soon as someone starts to get in their way, they get a little comfortable with the idea of like, maybe we should kill them. And then by the end, they're like, yeah, I think we should kill every judge, everyone that ever took a penny from us. And they're fine with that. And I feel like a lot of our politicians are subject to the same level of power in that, like, it feels good in the beginning. I'm here for the community. I care about you. I want your kid to get an education. And they get an arm put around them that's explaining the benefits of arming these contras or why flunkeling and drugs and paying for that sort of thing is okay. And they should turn the other cheek and this money in your pocket, think what you can do for your community. the bigger thing at picture here is my poor constituents at home they don't understand it and we're all there going like please do the right thing and they're 10 levels above in evil and corruption that we're not going to bring them back down it's too far yeah i don't think to me i

can only say that there's like maybe only a couple politicians that are in dc now that seem like human beings with a soul that understand like what the government's role is in people's lives katie porter's just out there shredding everybody she she gives like such tangible evidence that she gives a shit it's great yeah no and i and i think and that's the thing i think that's probably where my optimism comes from and it's maybe misguided because i'm more sort of feel for them that they are very alone over there yeah trying everything they can to get these other fucking career goblins to fucking leave their $70,000 refrigeration systems to like understand what it means to help somebody. And I think, yeah, I think again, I guess where I become optimistic

is like, well, that's at a federal level, It's clear what the gridlock is and how bad and how much of a failure this two party system is that we have here is. So that's going to figure itself out or not figure itself out or just accelerates a societal politics where people are trying to do what they can at a local level because that is emerging on some level. But I think, yeah, I guess really all that to say is like, yeah, sure. It's it's all it's all pretty fucking terrible and there's no real solution in sight. That's also a pretty accurate description. accurate description at the moment i mean it's pretty well like i know and can like talk to my five-year-old about the fact that like okay so here is the main problem that you are going to be working on as a generation for the next uh four-year lifetime presumably uh so just fyi like that it's climate change and like you know finding a way to fucking course correct this massive like tanker that we've been driving one direction like around to another one.

He likes shit metaphors. All right. Let's talk quickly about homeschooling. It's an old issue that is now being seized on by one of the greats to ever do it. mandates and mask mandates in place. And also he's bringing in critical race theory. of a surge in homeschooling during the pandemic, you know, not just like schools sending kids home, but like people deciding to educate their children from home, like with them as the teacher, which is, you know, just like there's been a surge in working from home and wearing workout clothes to eat Cheetos while sobbing. Like those are things that have surged during the pandemic. And, eat Cheetos while sobbing. Like those are things that have surged during the pandemic. And, you know, that's it's it's totally understandable. Polls have showed that a surprising number of parents were more interested in homeschooling even after lockdowns were over and even showed

that slightly more Democrats were interested in homeschooling. But the results were pretty much split down the middle. But basically, the conservative side is trying to use this trend to springboard into an overall movement where they can, just like a cult, you know, separate their people from society. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

It never fully works, though. I mean, being in stand-up, I mean, you guys, I'm sure you've had plenty of people on the show or just in your lives that were raised with that really oppressive fire and brimstone sort of viewpoint. And then they got to a certain age and were like, good Lord, it took some deprogramming. But, and they always go on to be some of the most fascinating people you meet. They read all the, everything they can get their hands on.

And so you can't constrict someone's mind in the way they're hoping to you know they're hoping that man it got so annoying at public school when i would tell my kid that you know a man took his rib out and made a woman and these fucking school people are saying that can't be done fuck them so you like bring them home and try to like just keep this in my kid this is real look it's the rib it's the rib from It's the rib from Adam. Touch it. I have a rib. Touch it. It's real. You know, it just is insane that they would like, well, if I isolate them, maybe we can be with the internet, all communicate and be this cult you're talking about, be a group

that all believes the same things and create this sort of army of kids that were implanted with the same stuff. It'll never work. Yeah. Well, this is, you know, this is like you're saying, Jack, this has been an issue since time immemorial in this country of going back and forth of like weaponized homeschool. But when you look at Steve Bannon specifically, like I think he's looking at this as like his like he was looking at Gamergate, you know, exactly. He was like Gamergate. He's like, there's a group of people who progress has put a weird taste in their mouth.

And I think if I can just fuck their heads up a little bit, I can get them to be on a whole other fucking program. That was literally we've talked about before on the show. That was the first step in his like progress from, OK, I see Gamergate to ultimately I need to get an outside the box candidate who will like seize on this. And like he identified Trump, like, but literally Gamergate was the first step. Yeah. I think he saw, cause you know, that's his sort of fucked up gift is he's identifying vulnerable groups or

energy or groups with potential, like huge potential to be energized for something. And in this case, it's the homeschooling parents and mothers. I think he's saying like the pandemic has already made, like, you can already see how parents have gone on all kinds of shit in the name of protecting their children, good or bad, but their energy is there. And he sees that as a place to be, you know, easy, ripe for manipulation. And he's been saying like, yeah, like, you know,

trying to get people to say, Hey man, they're indoctrinating your kids there. You should really you should really consider homeschooling your kids as a way to protest against this, because that's like the new movement, while also at the same time saying that, oh, yeah, the new tactic that we're going to use to sort of fight the culture war, as he said, is like, quote, going through the school boards. Yeah, right. Yeah. and then flipping the table there. Have you guys read The Time Machine by H.T. Wells? I think when I was in school. Yeah, I think I had him in school. So like, I have a version of it with a foreword,

and this is like late 1800s. And he's like, oh, I wrote this book because with access to more information that had ever been available, it was really disappointing to see people go the other way and get dumber and use it for like illicit means or sort of you know mindless and you're like what was that even was there a back section of the paper that people were turning to what is he even referencing they were reading dumb penny penny what do they call those, novels as opposed to hard, difficult literature.

I don't know, but this is well before the internet. Yeah, the advent of the printing press, paper was still very expensive, and binding was still very expensive. So basically, they were printing out, these things became very popular that were one page

what you find in Las Vegas, with people just handing out on the street and like that became a place where you know like everybody was able to write you know a single page worth of like speculation or conjecture and that was like the internet of the time and people yeah yeah it was unregulated just like you know social media is now and it led to a lot of wild shit a lot maybe maybe that's such a human thing that's ingrained in us as a species that there's going to be this division or this like things like q anon are not a phenomenon there's just the most current version of that pamphlet and people isolating and or but in the in the book

people you know live underground the people that live on the surface are blissfully ignorant and kind of like childlike in stupidity and there's definitely one group it's seemingly barreling right toward being that and willingly so willfully being like no no no get that science and shit out of here you need this i thought you were talking about uh the time machine and not a demolition man uh which is the yeah the text that i'm more familiar with that you seem to be describing apologies that is a classic book yeah one of the greats yeah i definitely i definitely read uh demolition man in school the novelization of the demolition Man. Keep it down, I'm reading Demolition Man.

It's the part where Dan Cortez is singing the Jolly Green Giant jingle at the Taco Bell. Yeah, one of the great scenes in literature. So, yeah, but so to your point, using homeschooling as a form of protest is absolutely not new. You know, it's not new in terms of protesting vaccine requirements. A group in New York, anti-vaxxers, made a big to-do about homeschooling their kids after the state eliminated exemptions for families to opt out of, you know, the standard school vaccinations. And then there's this thing called the textbook war of 1974 that we don't have time to cover here i was in west virginia and people should look it up families were protesting the idea of their kids having to learn about civil rights and you know leaders like eldridge cleaver and malcolm x which drew the support of the kkk as part of the protest which also included blocking school buses, spray painting racial epithets and bombing the Board of Education building, the parents were asked to teach their kids at home instead, which many did.

And, yeah, there's a long history of this, but I could totally see him having success in sort of building a movement here. him having success in sort of building a movement here yeah well if there's no better way to i mean i typically scaring parents with the livelihoods of their children uh is a is a typically an effective motivator but it's just funny how it like started like like more from prominent homeschool movements were like starting like on the left with people more just being like yeah we're not sending our kids to capitalism training camp we're fucking doing our own shit at home learning how to grow roots and shit but i would say that that one maybe to defend that and i don't have any skin in this game but it doesn't feel like that one was trying to get back more toward like a commune kind of agrarian early

stages of it takes a village the thinking they're being like oh that was a good period where like everyone had a little bit of something to put in your ear and you leave as a kid being like well i've heard everyone's point of view as opposed to now it's more like just this just i absolutely think like there are parents there are families for whom like homeschooling makes a lot of sense. And I'm sure there are examples of like homeschooled children who didn't have to like deprogram and like came out likeing, like it's really hard to find like teaching materials that aren't like aimed at like, you know, proving that man and dinosaurs lived on Earth at the same time. lived on earth at the same time and yeah yeah yeah and it's and that's why like this whole issue just so everyone has all their different motivations too because it's funny now you'll see people on the right say schools are just made to make you into like non-thinking automatons the indoctrination like wait that was their the left's argument in the 70s okay well that came

back around well so much and then even look too yeah there's there's even more like there's an increase of like black parents too who are homeschooling because they just don't want to subject their kids to the racism of yeah modern america and you're like yeah that's fucking valid too yeah absolutely so you're seeing like it's it's like this very malleable issue but in this case as it relates to steve bannon i think he truly sees a group where he says if i if i flip a few switches i'll have an army i think he said something like it where he says, if I if I flip a few switches, I'll have an army. I think he said something like it's like the tea party on steroids or something. I don't know. Have you seen his screenplay about the L.A. riots?

Because he he's thinking about everyone. Yeah. His his musical about the L.A. riots. Yeah. So, you know, don't don't count him out just yet. He he likes being a villain, it seems like. And, I mean, think of how many crime stories you've heard about. And when the person is inevitably, like, killed or captured or whatever, there's something. Oh, they were pulled over. They were incarcerated for two years in this state, but this information didn't make its way here. And you're like, oh, if this state had only known.

He was incarcerated. I mean, he was incarcerated i mean he was on his well his way to be and to be like that pardon may have been such a huge moment like looking back in 10 years from now like wow had that not happened this whole crazy movement may not have taken off yeah yeah we'll see who he gets behind for the next election but he he has failed a lot. So maybe he'll fucking fail at this, too. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, not to say that, but it's just something. But I think more than anything, it is something to really be aware of. Steve Bannon or not, it's QAnon. There are many other people who are looking at school boards as like very easy to win local elections to get in there. And suddenly now you're going to be like be like yeah we don't talk about like rocks anymore or matter or carbon yeah yeah i mean the there is important work being done by schools like you know that are having to there's a lot that needs to change about how we educate kids because

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Or, you know, I feel like most of the shoes I've ever owned are still not close to biodegrading. But here we have another option that i think yeah for the fans out there specifically even fans of jordan so someone has decided to buy his used underwear at auction they paid two thousand seven hundred and eighty four dollars eighty four ist 19 bids. Yeah. And it's a pair of boxers. So that makes it a little less disturbing to me. I guess. I would have valued them personally at like $2,500 is what I would have been willing to. I would have had them a thousand times more expensive.

Well, hold on. Think of how many different pairs of shoes he wore on the court that became available this is one i mean if you're talking about exclusivity this is a great purchase one of one underwear yeah i like that the company that was uh putting the auction on said that their uh boxers have evidence of quote definite use but what they mean to say is that there are like loose threads a dry cleaning tag like it had clearly been in the rotation of this man not to say like and you could see his shit stains for two for 2k right but this is like when i look at this it really does like raise the question like i get again i'm a fan of all kinds of shit and

there there is memorabilia that i dream of owning someday but it's typically very directly tied to the work of the person or the contributions of the person that i admire like if it's jordan i get sneakers i get jerseys and i even fuck it even Even a half smoked cigar. Like, you know, that's still part of his like identity. And you're like, Oh shit, this is like Jordan smoked this, but the underwear is so nondescript. And it's,

and like, look, and if also like, if you're kind of freaky, like, do you really want them clean? Right. Like we,

we had a, at cracked, we interviewed a woman who made her living selling her used underwear on a Reddit. I forget what the what the board was called, but and yeah, it was it was almost always, you know, much more valuable if it had any signs of definite to you. Yeah. Signs of definite use. Who would who would be the go to? Oh, man man everyone knows those underwear like maybe flavor flave or something like that like mark walberg oh yeah yeah right

yeah um even then like or or i get it like if it's someone who's like posing in their underwear then underwear makes sense but then it to me it just seems like i get it like fuck it if you're a fan like you'll buy anything but it would just be hard for me to look at and be like yes michael jordan is here you wouldn't frame him up underwear get him under glass have people over and like well we have time he is a hain spokesman just make up just make up fake memorabilia you have yeah you're like oh yeah that's uh that's f, that's Frederick Douglass' sock that I got. Who's going to say something? Nobody.

Well, going back to the replicas too, I mean, when there's so many documentaries about people faking art, faking wine, faking out ultra wealthy people, you end up being on the side of the forger of like, the thing you like is the price tag. You don't really value the skill it took to make that bag or the the those bags are churned out at such a rate there's no craftsmanship anymore and so like the underwear whatever you're putting up there you're you need like the the signed thing this is this was real this was this person's thing like but i could also fake that there's there's no like a real way unless you had a dna testing kit in your, you could have people come over and be like,

drop it in, see whose DNA shows up. And they'd be like, it's Jordan. Oh shit. That's like the only real way. Right. I feel like I came up with the Mark Wahlberg answer too quickly.

It was impressively rapid. I might as well acknowledge, I have bid on a pair of Marky Marks funky bunch underpants, funky bunch stuff underwear. They're funky. They do bunch up. They do have signs of use. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, like I think what for anyone you're a huge fan of what how far away from the like prime memorabilia that you would want to have.

Could you see yourself getting not to say like not to say that you'll spend x amount of dollars but at what point does something become less special to you as it relates to the object of your fandom i think i'm a bad person to weigh in on this because i really don't get i as a kid you know like jordan gretzky, Jerry Rice, Joe Montana, these things, if I had seen them, but as I got older, it feels like almost every hero you ever meet is just a person. Piece of shit. And they're like, yeah, excuse me. I need to use the restroom real quick. Like that, fuck, that's disappointing. I just don't imagine them doing anything but like elevating or

levitating or something. So you see them and it's just hard for me now to be a fan and has been, I think for like, since I was probably like 16 or 17, I just, the idea of buying someone's thing, I don't, it just stopped being appealing in any way. And so I apologize. I'm not great to weigh in on. No, no, no. That's not, we're all different on this earth.

Yeah. I know Jack and I are fan-brained. I'm fan brained i i'm trying to think of like what i would care about like that it to have at that like museum level like would be a showcase in yeah i want jay dilla's mpc uh fucking production unit right he made donuts on like i would love i would have that shit i'm like look at that shit like he made donuts on this shit the band phoenix bought the uh bought the mixing table that made thriller and they paid a absurd amount of money for it but it's one that i was like okay like that like that makes sense to me. You like could use that for your like profession, like the music that made the album Thriller traveled through this like that is fucking dope.

Yeah. And I think that's the I think for me, it has to be very specific. Like the second it's like this is Jay Dilla's hat that he wore. And I'm like, well, that's cool. Right. But like for me, like I still i still think about things like that like oh that would be so cool to just interact with unless it's like you know the hat worn by marky mark let's say during that uh photo shoot because like then like you can smell like what his sweat smelled like at that time and like it's. What a terrible person to be. You can smell the dracar that he was wearing at that time, I'm guessing.

You can smell the blood from that man he beat up in Boston long ago. Oh, come on, don't bring that up. That bums Jack out. That's what he always says when I bring that up. He goes, come on, don't bring that up. That bums Jack out. That's what he always says when I bring that up. He goes, come on, don't bum me out. And he apologized to that guy. Or he issued an apology that that guy probably

heard. I'm right over here. I'm in the front row. Anyway, I'd like to shoot this out there. Hey, where's my underwear? I'm going to go kick it with the Pope. Still one of my favorite things the Catholic Church has ever done. Send the Pope to America and have his emcee for his Pope event be Marky Mark. Wow.

When was that? Hell yeah, dog. It was in Philly. It was one of the- This is John Paul? No, no, no. The new Cool Pope. Oh, recently? Yeah, yeah. it was in philly uh it was john paul no no the new cool pope so oh recently yeah yeah when he when cool pope came to america which is a novel i'm working on yeah he like stopped along the

east coast uh you know he went to new york i think he did yankee stadium and then when he was in philly marky mark was the guy which is weird because he's not like boston would have made more sense i think but you know and was was he just like out there he's like what's up philly i hope you're ready to fucking turn up we got the one and only bishop of rome vicar of jesus christ successor of the prince of apostles supreme pontiff of the universal church primate of italy archbishop and metropolitan of the roman province sovereign of the state of the vatican city servant of the servant the pope the pope he doesn't even know his name yeah he. Knows all those other descriptors.

Yeah. Nothing. Yeah. He's a good Catholic to that point where he's like, I don't know. That shit got drilled into my head of the Pope's many titles. But then I just, I don't know, Pope. Look at that fucking hat, you guys. Look at that.

Hey, is that fitted, bro? Is that new? David, it has been such a pleasure having you, as always, on The Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you and follow you? DavidHuntsberger.com is the best place. There's links to everything and stream albums. Any of the other presento-type things or extravaganzos that are there, podcasts, etc. And then social media links are there also. So DavidHuntsberger.com.

And the newest thing is called Big Nothingness Available Everywhere. And by that, I mean YouTube and then all the album, the audio is on all the streaming sites. Yeah, yeah. And is there a tweet or some work of social media

you've been enjoying? Man, I was really scrolling and so bummed out that I wasn't really finding anything. And I still haven't, but I can't scroll anymore. I just hate it. And I got to really rethink who I'm muting and unmuting because it's a travesty. I'm going to share this one from Ahmed Weinberg, who it's just a thought that we've all thought and why in the hell do they not do this? But message to all airlines, load the window seats first,

then middle, then aisle, then go fuck yourself for not figuring this out earlier. Yeah. And what is going on? Why are we dealing with just 50 years of flying this way where there's that weird structure of people squeezing by other people and putting bags up while other people still need to get back? Well, because first we have to welcome our people

who've thrown their money away on multiple flights uh to create some sort of caste system even when boarding a plane because we have to have all that class sort of uh those definitions every fucking where they should book like the terminals like spirit right next to the highest end of delta so you'd have to even feel it more like, Hey, that's two backpacks. Get the fuck out of here. Now,

those of you that want to bring on show dogs, come this way, bring your cocaine. There you go. And then, yeah, families also fuck that up for you. They really do.

And I get, yeah, I get that. You know, look, if you're struggling, the kid, I feel,

I feel for you. You know what I mean? Yeah. Do that. Everyone look if you're struggling the kid i feel i feel for you you know what i mean yeah do that everyone else you're all the same asshole you sit in the first class or you sit in the middle seat in economy minus or plus or whatever the fuck they call it miles where can people find you what's a tweet you've been enjoying man find me twitter and instagram at miles of gray also the 90 day fiance podcast. I do four 20 day fiance. Check that out. Twitch.tv slash four 20 day fiance. That's with Sophia Alexandra.

And let's see a tweet that I like really simple. It's just, it's not really a joke. It's just an announcement from billboard at billboard tweets. Eminem is ready to serve up his famous mom's spaghetti at a new restaurant. He's launching. And it turns out. Yes. Yes. mom's spaghetti at a new restaurant he's launching and it turns out yes yes eminem is going to be serving up mom's spaghetti and he says yes it's because of lose yourself i know what the fuck i'm

doing here so yeah it says there's a there's like a whole ad for it i haven't seen the ad but the description is a 30 second television ad that aired on local WXYZ showed the rapper vomiting a Chinese takeout container of mom's spaghetti in the Detroit River before revealing the spot's menu offerings of spaghetti with and without meatballs, as well as skeddy sandwiches. I assumed that they were going to like steer clear of the fact that the song mentions that he vomits it. Yeah, like that it comes. There's vomit on his sweater already. Mom's spaghetti. He's nervous. But on the surface, he looks calm and ready.

We all know. To drop bombs. Yeah. Even Dave. Dave, see? We all know. But we're still, I guess, willing. It'd be funny if it's a joke.

It's all regurgitated spaghetti. I know. You're like, don't y'all listen to the lyrics? Served to you baby bird style by Eminem. By Eminem. Yeah. There you go. Let's see.

A tweet I've been enjoying. Becca O'Neal pointed out Dolly should have just dated Jolene herself after writing that whole song about how hot she was. Whitmer Thomas tweeted, every time my family calls, no matter what time of day it is, they say, Oh, sorry, I probably woke you up. Which is just great family passive aggression. But I appreciate that art form. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.

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Yeah. What song do we think people will enjoy on this Wednesday morning? Let's do this, artists. I've been liking for a minute uh deb never her whole fucking style is really dope it's like i guess called lo-fi alt pop and you know this song is called coca-cola and she has a new album that's really really fucking cool and i just really you know i'm i like the youth the youth artists right now they're doing their thing and they do not disappoint.

So check this out. This is Deb Never with Coca-Cola. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this morning. But we're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending. And we'll just skip right to it.

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