The Daily Zeitgeist - Barbara Bush > Lucille Bluth, Stormy Daniels Threatened By Tom Brady? 4.18.18

Episode Date: April 18, 2018

In episode 129, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Marlena Rodriguez to discuss Stormy Daniel's releasing the sketch of the man who threatened her and all the men it looks like, Michael Cohen hav...ing mob connections, why are taxes are so complicated, Nikki Haley clapping back at the White House, Rod Rosenstein being on the chopping block, Brietbart trying to protect conservative speech, the right trying to use Cards B as a pro-life icon, the real Barbara Bush, & more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:25 And I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Yeah, well, you know Miles Gray's my favorite color. I felt so symbolic yesterday. Smoking coats with weed. I just want to be a big star? Thank you to CatfishHunter78 for that one. All 90s bullshit song, aka is welcome. So much feeling in your voice.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I mean, you know, honestly, that song I fucking really like. That's a good song. No, but like in an unhealthy way. So, yeah, Well, anyway, let's not make this up. Why am I on trial? Hi. We have a guest. I can't believe that had a real purpose. Oh, yeah. That's the AKA section. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Because I'm Miles Gray. Anyway, yes, that's how we do this. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian Marlena Rodriguez. Wow. What song will you be singing? Okay, I'll start at the... Do we have to pay for that?
Starting point is 00:03:31 No, no, no. Hey, don't worry. Just those two. Just to alter the lyrics slightly so it's apparent. I'm not a fair use expert, but yes. I like how you go, oh, that had a purpose. Because prior to recording, I was just screaming, scream singing the entire song.
Starting point is 00:03:45 And I think you probably thought, where the fuck am I? What the fuck is wrong with this dude who won't stop talking about Adam Duritz? Prolific celebrity dater, as we looked at his Wikipedia page. Yeah, wow. Don't forget. That is just the magnitude of settling that we are faced with. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:04:01 White guy with dreads. Yeah. Marlena, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Oh, revealing about who I am? Yes, we are going to judge you on this. I might have done this wrong. Nope. But I have a habit of getting really high
Starting point is 00:04:20 in convincing myself I definitely have herpes. Wow. I do the same thing, but cancer. Okay, great. Way cooler one. Well, I used to do that when I was in my teenage years. No reason. There's no reason at all.
Starting point is 00:04:37 But every single time, I am just so sure. And so that's what I'm Googling all the time. Do I have herpes? Which one is the herpes? Which simplex? Right. Why? Which herpes do I have?
Starting point is 00:04:51 How long? How long? Do I have the cold that I think people- I remember that was a thing when I was a teenager. I read it's like, sometimes people get a cold before an outbreak or something. And that had me all fucked up because I had a cold. And I was like, oh, I have herpes. Or whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I mean, look, we're not shaming people out here. My big mistake was that I, you know how like really hot people just have herpes? You know that? I mean. Did you know that? For sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like pretty true.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Like every reality show person. Well, I. Well, yeah, it's very common. So I think, yeah, just by sheer volume, of course. Yeah. In college, it was like the hottest guy I'd ever seen paid attention to me. And the first night that we ever hooked up, not even, we didn't even do it. It was very sweet.
Starting point is 00:05:33 It was wonderful. And then we were just hanging out at his apartment. And he was like, I have to tell you something. And I was like, oh, what? And he was like, I have herpes. And I was like, no, you don't. After the fact? You didn't believe it? And then that happened three more times.
Starting point is 00:05:48 And then I had to believe it. Oh, he told you three more times? It didn't work out. It was just a back and forth in that moment of like, yes, I do. And like, no, you don't! And it was real bad. Yeah, you were getting over the perception that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:04 And yeah, and I never, you know, I never got to suck his dick. I never got to raw dog with him. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to hear that. Well, now his dad is president, so, you know. It's rough. Yeah. So, yeah, he had abs.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Marlena, what is something you think is underrated? Underrated. Okay, now I did, in understanding correctly, an underrated about myself. Whatever you want. Oh my God, is anything? It's open-ended. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:06:36 But I like this. No, go on. No, no, no, no. This is why we like, this is the form. It's meant to be terminated. I still think that everybody should be like, my sense of humor is underrated. My shoulders are underrated.
Starting point is 00:06:47 That's where we're going with this. She's viciously scratching something out her nose. Can't do that. Underrated about me, as everything is, is I was in the first high school production of Cats. Wow. Wait, like the first licensed production? What do you mean? Correct.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Thank you. And I was also in the most underrated role, which was the Cats chorus. Now, as you all obviously understand, the Cats chorus is the group of understudies who not only learn the entire show, but never were actually on stage and just stood backstage in front of a mic and sang all the words.
Starting point is 00:07:36 In cat makeup and costume? No, we didn't even get that far. Just support voices. Yeah. So you were not... I thought that was extremely underrated on behalf of society would you say rum tum tugger rum tum tugger is a curious cat you know thank you so much yeah would you say that uh that play in general is is underrated musical sir i would say
Starting point is 00:08:00 musical uh i would say it's it's deeply underrated t.sS. Eliot had a lot of backstories behind those cats. I know. Isn't that interesting? A lot of them. Do yourself a favor. Get crazy high and just start reading that Wikipedia. I have the first part done, so let me just start reading it. It's based on weird little stories T.S. Eliot wrote about neighborhood strays.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Yeah, and really huge backstories he built. One was a paid whore and then got old, and now no one likes him. My mom does the exact same thing with animals when she adopts them. Gives them backstories. Yeah, the first cat she adopted was this cat that had given birth to a litter of cats.
Starting point is 00:08:46 And all the kittens were adopted. And her friend whose house the cat had given birth to was like, I got homes for everyone except for the mother. And my mom goes, I will take her. Okay. And then when suddenly I go over there, I'm like, what the fuck is this cat? She goes, she was a single mother on the streets with nowhere to go. And I was like, okay. And then I just asked around.
Starting point is 00:09:07 I was like, okay, so this is what happened. She loves to do that. Now she has put that fixation on possums. My mom is a possum. God, the worst. Well, hold on. This is what happened. Let me bust a myth here.
Starting point is 00:09:18 My mom capes for possums. She's a fucking card-carrying member of the Possum Society or some shit. Wow. But they get a bad rap because they don't have herpes or i'm sorry herpes sorry i got put in my brain they don't have rabies and that's why you can kiss them but yeah she's like you know like it's not they they have rabies and things like that they're really docile or whatever they don't have rabies no they do they do not have rabies. Yeah. They just look like. They just look like total shit.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Because they have like pink eyes and weird white faces. Yeah, and they're like jagged ass teeth. And my mom's like, you can't just assume that. And I'm like, okay, well. Their mouths are incredibly clean. And then she's like. Yeah, it's like licking them. She's like, see, know her piece.
Starting point is 00:10:00 And yeah. And so she like feeds them now. And like they get along with my cats. My mom's got a whole menagerie going on wait they're wild possums they're wild fucking possums that hang out
Starting point is 00:10:10 with my mom's cats because my mom has like gotten the cats used to the possums because my mom she's never touched the possum but she sees again she saw a possum
Starting point is 00:10:18 with a litter and she goes it's a single mother oh and the kids they just they need water because in the summer
Starting point is 00:10:24 it was hot and in the valley like it was hot in the valley. Like, it's dry as shit. So, like, the animals do come out looking for water. So she just, she turned her backyard into the fucking, you know, the neighborhood spot for possums. Ooh, congrats on her having a backyard. Yeah, look at that. I didn't mean to flex on you.
Starting point is 00:10:38 We're out here. But that, just going back to the T.S. Eliot thing, I was so surprised by that because Cats is such a piece of culture that is looked down on by highfalutin New Yorkers and stuff. And the fact that it was based on a T.S. Eliot work is the last thing you would expect. So yeah, check out the Wikipedia of Cats is dope. I'm sorry, just one question. You said your high school was the first high school to do a production of Cats? Yes. What is your high school? Is your high school like a a production of Cats? Yes. What is your high school?
Starting point is 00:11:05 Is your high school like a special theater school? I went to two high schools at the same time, so in the morning. Wow, I'm sorry. How is that possible? Okay. So I have a fake ID. Right. It sounds like a wacky 80s comedy where then you run out and put a backwards hat on and
Starting point is 00:11:20 a fake mustache. I would say that's like a fair. That is exactly uh we would uh go to regular high school in the morning so from like 7 30 to 12 30 we'd take like math and science and then we'd all jump in a bus about 20 of us and we would go to hartford which was downtown, whatever. Shout out to the whale. Yeah, the dirty water. And then we would, from 1 to 4, 15, do whatever. So I was a voice major for three years, and then I switched to theater.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Ah, no, I heard it. You gave us a taste. A taste of Whitney. I'm really, really talented at the bad singing, like bad singing that sounds really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. But good singing, that is a different challenge. Can you give us an example of something people would have heard of
Starting point is 00:12:17 that is bad singing that sounds good? I like to take Gold Link songs and turn them into operettas. Okay. So perchance, I want to be more than homies. That's awesome. What is something that is overrated about yourself? But it's not supposed to be about you. It's not supposed to be about you.
Starting point is 00:12:41 But that's what we're doing. But we like this. Yo, you're changing the game. I don't like it. See, from your underrated about. But we like this. Yo, you're changing the game. I don't like it. See, from your underrated about yourself, we got to an underrated about the world. And Kat, let's do the same thing here. I want to think of something that is genuinely overrated.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Hating Beyonce is overrated. I feel like some people who hate Beyonce because she's overrated, like those people. They think she's overrated? Yeah those people? They think she's overrated? Yeah, can go fuck themselves. They think they're very cool for not liking Beyonce. I think those are people who just have to be contrarian. Because, I mean, I can look at the sun and know that is the sun.
Starting point is 00:13:18 And I can look at Beyonce and know that is a god. A goddess. An entity from another dimension. Only a goddess. yeah right did you see the twitter all of that did you see someone tweeted about their conversation with their mom was live texting them while watching the coachella live stream about beyonce and she's like oh my god i can't believe how have i not known about this she's like this is impossibly spectacular, this performance. She's in her fourth outfit. Oh my goodness. The outfit
Starting point is 00:13:48 changes. Yeah, she's like, I thought she was a lot before. I never had seen it. It's just like this long, these text are like full-on paragraphs. And I was like, see, that's what happens when you get your shit cooked. I do feel like this is the point at which everybody has been forced to admit that Beyonce
Starting point is 00:14:04 is great. That show, for whatever reason, was the point that even the people who were like, fuck Beyonce, are now like, shit, I was wrong. I kind of had a feeling I was wrong before, but now I know that I'm completely wrong. I kind of bit off more than I could chew with my Beyonce criticism. It was two hours. Yeah. All right. And finally, Marlena, what is a myth what is something
Starting point is 00:14:26 people think is true that you know to be false i okay so uh i have a very tiny one um and then a bigger one so the tiny one is that nordstrom will take any return that is uh that is false uh oh really they have uh they i used to work there and they have like a whole system for not taking returns. Oh, interesting. A lot of loopholes, guys. Because before, people always thought Nordstrom was the place you would buy something, because if you leave the tag on, they will always take it back, right? And they'd be like, if you take the tag off, you can bring it back.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Oh, okay. Yeah, if you take it. But at this point, they will kind of no longer do that because everybody's taking advantage and they really keep track of like the coming in returning all the time oh and they start marking you down they're like yeah they'll send you a letter being like stop it you're no longer allowed to come here oh even though their entire brand is you can return one yeah i know that's crazy we should let Lacey know because I know Lacey is a big proponent of that. She loves the scams.
Starting point is 00:15:27 She does love the scams. Oh, they'll get you. And Target has a forensics department. They have like labs. Like forensics labs. Like CSI. They put the return product
Starting point is 00:15:37 under a blacklight and like see all the, it looks like a Jackson Pollock and they're like, oh man. What the fuck did you do here? Someone jerked off all over this. This was an electric tea kettle uh what the fuck are you doing everywhere yeah we cannot take this
Starting point is 00:15:53 uh that's crazy they have a friend okay so that's a small myth busted they will not take your shit thank you other myth cuba not really there cuba one yeah not really there. Cuba, one, yeah, not really there. But that the people are deprived and therefore super unhappy and suffering. Right. I went and they're fucking so happy. And not like we know we're deprived and we're very happy. They just kind of don't know. we know we're deprived and we're very happy.
Starting point is 00:16:23 They just kind of don't know. And it's really fascinating to see, like, they don't have phones. Or they have phones, but not to the extent that we do. They don't have, like, as much entertainment. They just have so much less. And I really thought I was going to show up and see, like, sad people. And what I actually saw was like people that were very, very present. Right. And seemingly content in their lives.
Starting point is 00:16:48 And it was really beautiful. And then does that bum you out too? Because you came into it thinking it was going to be like that? Because that's how I felt like. No. Okay. Yeah, when I went to Africa, I was like, man, I felt the same thing.
Starting point is 00:16:59 I was like, I don't know what I'm going to see. Like blah, blah, blah. And then you realize it's just human nature, right? To make the best of your situation. Not everyone lives comparatively. Like people aren't in Cuba thinking, man, if I have 4G LTE, man, like blah, blah, blah. Like, you know what I mean? And so to them, there is no other reason, but just, but to be happy. Uh, and then I was kind of like, damn, like I felt shitty that I was even like projecting my like relative comfort and technological access
Starting point is 00:17:25 and projecting that onto someone. Be like, oh, that must be terrible for them. And I was like, yeah, you know what? That's because I'm used to it and I've been coddled by this advanced technology or whatever. And yeah, it's not the basis of my happiness. I guess that's what you learn too is that's not what makes you happy.
Starting point is 00:17:41 No, they have to filter their water. Like when you visit, you can't drink their water, but also they can't drink their water. It's not like they're used to it or something. And it's like, they're not even a little bit going to complain about that. It was pretty cool, but still. Oh, a great tip is if you visit, don't stay in the hotels because that means the money goes to the government and no one knows what happens. But if you stay in a casa, which is essentially a B&B, that money goes to the community and it helps like build, help them. Also in those hotels, they might hit you with that Sonic Ray.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Right. Oh my God. That's a thing. I just heard a really interesting interview with somebody who's like been a lot of studies on loneliness in America and Western culture, but America in particular, and how much lonelier our culture is than just every other culture. Now that we have all this technology and stuff, people are reporting. It used to be that you had an average of four to five close friends and now modern people report zero close friends they're just like uh yeah not really like they they ask you to define like oh what a friend right like they say okay do you like have somebody who you can trust with this do you have
Starting point is 00:18:57 somebody you can trust with it and like by the definition they're like oh you have zero close friends who you trust like and yeah they, there's a really interesting interview on some podcast that I'm drawing a blank on, but basically saying that a lot of our health problems, a lot of our mental health problems are just essentially the fact that we've cut ourselves off from socializing and social networks. So I don't know. We'll talk more about that at a later date,
Starting point is 00:19:23 but I'm sure that's at least partially why people in these other countries that don't have 4G connectivity actually seem happier than you might expect. Well, yeah, we lose our humanity with the more technology we embrace. Right. I think that just goes hand in hand. It's crazy how easily they can just talk to other people. Right. Right. And American people are like, I think I'm going to call the cops on these black guys
Starting point is 00:19:47 who are sitting down. Right. That's where we're at. I won't even say shit to them. I'm just kidding. You know what? I want the police to talk to them. That's right.
Starting point is 00:19:57 She just didn't talk to them. She didn't even talk to them. She just called the cops because they were sitting there. Because she doesn't know how to talk to people, and we don't know how to talk to each other. Hey, that brings us to the modern world, the news of the day. We're trying to take a sample of the global slash national shared consciousness, what people are thinking and talking about right now. So we want to start out with an image that went viral yesterday.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Stormy Daniels released the police sketch of the man who threatened her, which I think that was when she told her story about the guy coming up and threatening her on 60 minutes. She told that story. I think everybody was like, oh, well give it, tell us who that person was or like look through all the pictures in America. Let's find this motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:20:39 All the pictures in America. Yeah. Let's find every, let's look through everybody, find them. But so she did a police sketch with somebody who, you know, police sketches are generally not super well trusted, and scientifically they're not great,
Starting point is 00:20:56 and sometimes they make your memory of somebody's face less accurate because you're having to, like, match. You're having to go back and forth between your memory of the thing and then what the drawing looks like. And it sometimes gets blended. Other times, super producer Anna Hosnier was saying that she thinks that sometimes people end up describing someone who is, you know, familiar to them and not necessarily the stranger who they're trying to describe, which is interesting because so this picture came out.
Starting point is 00:21:28 People were saying young Willem Dafoe, Tom Brady, Starship Troopers star Casper Van Dien. Oh, I love him. And the puppet from Team America all blended together. And it really does look like a blend of all those things. And then this morning, TMZ posted an article pointing out that it's actually just her husband. The drawing is her husband. It looks almost identical to her third husband.
Starting point is 00:22:03 It's very strange. It's crazy how much it looks like her husband. Oh no! Yeah. I mean, they may have a point. Also, what a bummer! That guy sucks! His eyebrows are a mess.
Starting point is 00:22:19 His face is so aggressively trying to be handsome. He looks like like MMA Barbie. Or like if there was a MMA toy, that's what he would be. Anyway, so yeah, this guy, Brendan Miller. I think that's her husband. Yeah. Just like him.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Very strange. Maybe it was him, though. Yeah. To be fair to sketch artists, and this one in particular this one seemed like they're uh somebody released uh some of the drawings this person has done before based on you know descriptions and they're like spot on so this is apparently the best sketch artist in america the guinness world record holder for being the most successful sketch artist right which yeah that's so great.
Starting point is 00:23:05 They found the right person to do the job. It just seems weird that they look so much like. And we'll see if this, you know, ends up leading to the arrest of the person who threatened Stormy Daniels, because she's saying, you know, I got $131,000 for the person who can identify this person, which is funny,
Starting point is 00:23:22 because $130, 130 is what Michael Cohen offered her to STFU. So, you know, she's kind of taking a shot at him. Why would she add a whole 999,000 more than a hundred more? Whoa. Whoa. Dollar math. Math class.
Starting point is 00:23:38 A thousand. Take a seat. Art school. In all fairness, I barely went to math class. The mornings were short. I was I was rehearsing for uh cats but but that brings up michael cohen because yesterday i was reading this thing about how just like how even shadier this dude looks like when you really sort of look at his neighborhood where he's from his family so everyone knows he's friends with felix seder
Starting point is 00:24:00 uh who's like a lot of people are saying like he might be his connection to Russia or whatever, because that guy, Felix Sater, his dad was like a capo in an organized crime syndicate that was considered to be one of Russia's largest. And then we find out that his uncle owned a Brooklyn social club, which was a well-known meeting spot for members of both the Italian and Russian mafia. So like the 70s and 80s. And then they're saying up until the 90s, it was considered some people. I think I guess some people law enforcement were considering it the sort of headquarters where the Russian mafia literally ran their entire crime organization out of.
Starting point is 00:24:37 And that's like a place that Michael Cohen's family owns. It's like he owned Bada Bing, essentially. Basically, it's called the El Caribe. owns it's like he owned bada bing essentially basically it's called the el caribe uh and so it's it's just it's just interesting to look at i guess the more you know i think we're starting to see this pattern i think we're talking about it yesterday about how this is just sort of like just the the doofiest uh white people mafia ever uh of like just really inept criminals uh and and now we're seeing like that's the world michael cohen also grew up in like where his uncle owned a mob hangout so of course he's probably gonna be have that mindset a little bit i mean if you hear him talk once it almost like just the
Starting point is 00:25:15 mafia is just pouring off of him like you just feel like okay this guy's out of central casting for mafiosa right uh yeah so it's not overly surprising. And also the fact that he threatens to do physical harm to people on a regular basis. Yeah. I don't think that's part of your law school training. Right. I don't know. It feels like it might be.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Right. Like one of those night class electives. Right. But I guess I don't know if you're screaming that you'll fuck someone's soul over the phone. I don't know what that really feels that you'll fuck someone's soul over the phone is like, I don't know what. I don't know what that really feels like, something they teach at like Harvard Law. Well, he did not go there. I think he went to the clown school of law.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Right. Or whatever the fuck the place is. What I do to you is going to be disgusting. Yeah. But wasn't he like a big personal injury lawyer? Yeah. So basically he made an entire, he built himself on having like those commercials yeah you in a car accident right thanks to michael cohen i got three million dollars
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Starting point is 00:29:55 to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of my Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. And we're back. And we are having sort of an extended tax day today, which everybody wants to talk about. People love talking
Starting point is 00:30:26 about taxes. But yeah, so the IRS website crashed yesterday. So they extended it for, I think, today, just today? Maybe today or maybe another day. I don't know. They definitely had to extend it because they're like, hey, sorry, y'all crashed our website because who knows? Of course it crashed on tax day. But doing your taxes, getting your taxes in is a big, serious deal in America. And Miles, you were pointing out that that's not really the case anywhere else. Okay, imagine everyone has done taxes in this room and they're confusing. And most of the time you have to consult a person at H&R block an accountant or use turbo tax and because the shit is so complicated and the reason is so complicated is because tax preparers lobby
Starting point is 00:31:11 the government regularly to keep the tax code as confusing as fucking possible so our only option is to go to these places okay there's an h&r block lobby? Yes. Oh, yeah. Fuck this. Big tax. Yeah, there is such a thing as big tax now. So Intuit, who makes TurboTax, they spent $2 million in 2017 on shit like basically they do not want to simplify the tax code. Like outright. Like that's in lobbying documents, that that is what their stated purpose is for their lobbying efforts. So when you look at other countries like Denmark or Sweden or Spain or Japan, they already have systems in place where the government like sends you a prepared return. They estimate your taxes using information your employer and the bank already have, because obviously they know everything. The tax collecting institutions of these countries, you know, in the UK, most people don't file returns like the government will calculate your liability or your refund and send you a check or a bill unless you're self-employed. Now in my other homeland, Japan, very simple system. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:11 So the Japanese version of the IRS, uh, which is the Kokuzecho, they gather all the pertinent data for each worker, their income, taxable benefits, number of personal exemptions, tax withheld, and so on. And they compute how much a taxpayer owes down to the fucking last penny the last yen and they have precision withholding so like they know exactly how to calculate everything and they'll just send you a postcard just telling you hey this is what you made this is your refund amount or this is what we're actually gonna have to take out because uh you underpaid your taxes and we can just take that out of your account and And boom, you're done. Just fucking tell us how much we owe. Just tell us.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Why do I have to tell you? Why am I paying somebody to tell me how much to pay you? The fuck is this? In addition to the turbo taxes of the world, I bet it has something to do with the fact that really, really rich people can pay other can pay like attorneys and you know accountants to find ways to get them to like not pay taxes of course yeah because the the thing is so fucking complicated more complicated it is yeah then you need something because also let's be real tax preparation
Starting point is 00:33:17 services are like they're in an existential crisis because algorithms and shit like the need to go to a human at an h&R Block is becoming like that business is shrinking, which is why they had to get into like the TurboTax game of offering shit like H&R Block at home or I think is whatever their do it yourself website services. So they're like up against it. So it behooves them to make shit as complicated as possible. Now, we are trying to change shit. Elizabeth Warren introduced a bill last year that would completely simplify the tax code and make it easier for people to just have Uncle Sam just send you the bill or be like, hey, brother, you're getting this refund.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Right. And also, it'll cut down on so much eaten up productivity for human beings and save a lot of money in the long run if you do shit like this. But again, when you got people putting money at this thing to make it as complicated as possible, we have this same thing year after year after year. I feel like these stories come out all the time where we're just talking about, why can't our taxes be more simple?
Starting point is 00:34:12 Here's why. And like the people who are arguing for keeping it as complicated are saying, well, we don't want to extend the reach of the government. You don't want them doing your taxes. Can you really trust the IRS to tell you what they're going to do? Well, all of these programs are voluntary.
Starting point is 00:34:26 So even if the thing you got from the government you didn't agree with, you can opt out of it and do it yourself. Or you can be like, oh, okay, that looks cool. Right. Yeah, I'm with that. Again, it's just a headache because it's one of those things where most people in other countries are like, what? Y'all have to walk into a box full of receipts and like panic over what kind of food you can write off as an entertainment expense or whatever. It's just, it's crazy. You can tell that it's a good idea to simplify the taxes because when the Republicans introduced their tax cuts, they claimed that they
Starting point is 00:34:57 were making it so that you could just file your taxes on one side of a postcard. So when they're lying about having a good idea, even though they don't have it, you can tell that that's probably worth looking into. Obviously, they're not going to do anything with it, but. I love tax time. Do you? Isn't it the funnest? Oh, it's my favorite.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Oh, because you get, or you do a lot of 1099 work, so you get to. I take way less exemptions than I should. And so, it's kind of like a savings savings account and I get a return every year. Nice. Yeah, yeah. And then I buy something dumb. Oh, what'd you buy this year? A computer.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Oh, you idiot. Yeah, dumb. Fool. You fool. Do the pointing and clicking on it. Oh, well. Hope it's a nice computer. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Okay. Well, is it a nice computer? Yes. Okay, good. That's part of why it's a nice computer. Thank you so much. Okay. Well, is it a nice computer? Yes. Okay, good. That's part of why it was dumb. It's like, you only do two things on this. It's like, you don't need a full-on gaming tower. I needed the gaming tower.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Yeah. I need the graphics card. How am I going to watch 240p music video clips of New Kids on the Block? So we talked yesterday about the fact that there is some tension going on in the executive branch. The president and his cabinet are sort of not agreeing on sanctions over Russia. In the aftermath of the assassination of the former Russian spy, America punished Russia a little more forcefully than the UK and France.
Starting point is 00:36:28 And when Trump found out about that, he was very mad. We talked about this yesterday. Just an update. So they threw Nikki Haley under the bus. They were like, when she said that we were doing these sanctions, she was confused. So yesterday, Nikki Haley just straight up said in public, I don't get confused.
Starting point is 00:36:48 She was just like, fuck y'all. I love that so much. I know, me too. I don't like her politics sometimes, but I like this shit. I like that a lot. And Kudlow, the guy who said that she got confused, came out and was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry. That was a mistake. I'm so sorry. She would never be confused.
Starting point is 00:37:03 I was actually confused. I'm actually, I'm a nobody. I'm so sorry. She would never be confused. I was actually confused. I'm actually, I'm a nobody. I'm an idiot. That's also such like a loose thing to say about a person. Oh, they were confused. And to just say about yourself, I do, that is not an option in my brain. I never get confused. I never have been.
Starting point is 00:37:18 That is in the fork. I go right or left. Right. There is no. There is no. There's no confusion here. Slowing down. That is not part of my operating system.
Starting point is 00:37:26 But yeah, I think it's also the first time I've heard anyone from the administration be like, oh, that was a mistake. I shouldn't have said that. Right. Yeah. Not even when John Kelly's saying crazy shit like, oh, slavery was the best time in America. Because the families were together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Wait. Excuse me? How's that now? Yeah. He's not like, oh. The fathers were there. Yeah. I shouldn't have.
Starting point is 00:37:45 You're right. That's just sort of sounds like a foreign language to me when How's that now? Yeah. He's not like, oh. The mothers were there. Yeah. I shouldn't have. You're right. That's just sort of sounds like a foreign language to me when I hear that. Also, on this front, there was legislation that we had talked about last week that supposedly had bipartisan support to protect the Mueller investigation. That has officially been killed, obviously. Well, yeah, McConnell's like, I'm not going to bring that to the floor. I am drying up. I was all wet. When I hear bipartisan support,
Starting point is 00:38:10 who do I get going? I'm just like, let's get ready. And then it goes away. And then it goes away. It just goes away. Just the mention of Mitch McConnell. Yeah. I like your sound effect better.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Yeah, he won't do it but chuck grassley i think is just like oh i don't give a fuck we're gonna we're gonna move this thing out of committee and he'll still take a vote on it i mean sure but that means fuck all if you're not gonna it's not getting done without me uh yeah but so you have a theory about where things are gonna go next how they're gonna try i have a theory based on watching the news. Right. Which news? I can't say.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Fox, only Fox. Only Fox, but let's be real. I only watch the Goebbels Network. So right now, people like Devin Nunes, Bob Goodlatte, and Trey Gowdy, the three horsemen of fuckery, are asking Rod Rosenstein for unredacted versions of James Comey's
Starting point is 00:39:04 contemporaneous memos that he was taking when he was talking to Trump because they're like, oh, we're gonna have to look at that. Like there's there's stuff in there that the dossier made of. It's all like it's all confusion. Makes no sense. They keep man Devin Nunes was on hand and he just couldn't stop talking about the fucking dossier and then somehow remembering that he basically needed to create a false conflict
Starting point is 00:39:22 with Rod Rosenstein to begin this new attack on him. So what it looks like is they're asking for these notes. The Justice Department is like, you're asking for evidence in an active investigation? Like, that's kind of weird. Like, it's open. So they're sort of like, what do we say here? Mueller's the only one that can do that. Well, I mean, like, obviously, that's evidence that he is looking at, that Robert Mueller is, too.
Starting point is 00:39:43 But the Congress is saying, you know, because we have oversight on things like this, we also want to be a party to looking at this evidence. And they're like, it's not really how the law works. But they know that because all they want is to be able to say, we asked Rod Rosenstein to look at these things. And he said no. He's still whiling us. And this could be contempt of Congress or whatever. and this could be contempt of Congress or whatever. And I think it's clearly, again, whenever they can try and drum up some kind of fake-ass conflict,
Starting point is 00:40:12 I think that maybe that's where this is headed because they definitely took the rounds yesterday of talking and being like, well, we're trying to get these notes and we'll see. These memos, we'll see what happens. Right. They're setting him up for a conflict. It's like asking him to do an impossible thing. Exactly. And then being like, huh?
Starting point is 00:40:22 Oh, you won't do that? He was supposed to give them yesterday. Rod Rosenstein had a deadline of yesterday and he said, i need an extension because he's trying to figure out he's like okay we gotta huddle up what the fuck are they trying to do asking us for this uh so i mean it's a small thing that could turn into a big thing but just keep a lookout if you hear those three dummies trying to be like oh he's so uncooperative i don't know what to do maybe he needs to be fired. Type shit. I wish under oath started when they started working. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Right. Just they were always under oath and we could arrest them for being such lying sex of shit. I just don't understand how lying is just totally above board.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Right. Right. What? Yeah. It's a many-sided complex thing where you have people on the left
Starting point is 00:41:04 who try to not lie and then that doesn't really work for them all the time. And you have people on the left who try to not lie, and then that doesn't really work for them all the time. And then you have on the right, people love to fucking lie. They don't give a fuck. And I mean, a lot of times they're getting what they want. Yeah, I don't know. I wish I just knew. I wish someone was like, oh, yeah, you could play by the rules and you'll do okay.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Or you could lie. Right. Zero lie right zero repercussion the fuck you want absolutely nothing wrong with yeah i mean the whole either way left or right it's all lies to me everyone is obviously going to push their version of the reality that they want people to believe in uh and it's up to us to kind of use our own sound minds to look at it and be like this seems motivated in a weird way. Right, right. On either side. Sound minds. Yeah. We are of sound mind.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Breitbart has been emailing me. I signed up for their email newsletter. So that's probably why. Thank you very much. Yeah, he's an ally in the fight against the white genocide. Right, exactly. But I like to keep an eye on what they're doing, what they're telling their fans. And so their latest pursuit, they are asking their fans to write to Congress and tell them that conservative speech is not hate speech. So this thing that we
Starting point is 00:42:20 pointed out last week where Ted Cruz was asking Mark Zuckerberg why he was shutting down Diamond and Silk. Diamond and Silk. And Mark Zuckerberg, for some reason, didn't know that they hadn't done that. And that was actually Diamond and Silk misunderstanding a forum email that they had received. So this is a thing that they're really trying to push on is the idea that people are conflating conservative speech with hate speech. And I think the reason they're doing that is because they are hate speech. Yeah, I was like, oh, what's he going to say? Because I would just say hate speech. Yeah, they don't want to be shut down. Like you need to have your speech policed when you are saying things that are, you know, riling up hate and racism and incitement of violence is a thing
Starting point is 00:43:29 that needs to happen, but they're not going to... They're like, it's not hate speech, it's dog whistling. It is dangerous to them, but yeah. Wait, so how are they even phrasing it in this email? They're like, we have a war that we have to fight. Yeah. Tell Congress, Colin, conservative speech is not hate speech. After weeks of dodging answers, they talk about the Zuckerberg thing. And then they say for years, companies like Google and Facebook have been banning, blocking and censoring anything that goes against their worldview. That fucking fallacy is so tired to me when they talk that dumb shit. Palisade is so tired to me when they talk that dumb shit.
Starting point is 00:44:08 It's funny how they're only outraged when a person on the right is being told, like, they shouldn't just spread anti-Semitic bullshit or Islamophobic nonsense. They're like, oh, you're censoring my hate speech. But when fucking swastikas and nooses show up places, man, I don't see that shit on Fox News. They're not concerned with hate speech in any form anyway. Right. So they have this, it's just fucking. Yeah, they're trying to hide the idea that it's actually a problem. So they would never tell you about, you know, swastikas or nooses.
Starting point is 00:44:33 And I think this is actually a bigger problem for liberals than people are acknowledging or realizing. In the Comey interview blitz, he acknowledged that the whole reason that he basically tipped the election in Trump's favor was he was concerned of being seen as having a liberal bias by not releasing the fact that they were reopening the investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails. He was just concerned about being seen as having a liberal bias. Right. He was just concerned about being seen as having a liberal bias. And Comey's fairness goes too far. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:13 I mean, like he hits fair and then he's like, let me just show everyone how fair is really done. Right. Exactly. And Obama, too. He didn't want to say that because he thought it was going to look crazy if he's the one telling people, hey, you might want to look out for this Russia shit or whatever. He was very sensitive that he didn't want to appear that way. And it's just crazy because this is like when facts are facts, left or right, we just have to accept them. Yeah. And I understand that the Russia investigation, there was less to actually go out with because it was such a sort of ongoing thing and a confidential thing that publicizing it could have been problematic. But, you know, you don't need to tell the world that you're going to spend the next three days looking into whether there might even
Starting point is 00:45:50 be a chance that Hillary did something wrong, like six days before the election. But in his mind, it was like, if he didn't do that, he was having a liberal bias. So they're constantly shifting the grounds on which we're having these discussions. And it's also, you know, Facebook is not an inherently conservative platform, but they were incredibly helpful to the conservative cause during the 2016 election because they were concerned about, there were people hammering them right at the beginning of the 2016 election about having a liberal bias and about like wanting to help Hillary and having helped Obama. And I just think that that's something that the left really needs to grapple with is allowing the right to sort of set the different goal lines on which like we have these
Starting point is 00:46:42 conversations. I mean, I think as dismissive as the right is about their own hypocrisy, I think on the left, you just have to be just as dismissive of these like just bullshit claims of being censored or whatever. Right. It's like you're just saying that shit. That is not true. You're saying that to convince yourself that you are not actually saying some dumb, inaccurate, hateful shit or whatever. And in the past, I think because the left hasn't had a voice, because the New York Times was completely subject to this criticism of, well, now you're being biased. So they couldn't come out. The New York Times has this thing where they have to tell both sides of the story. They're objective journalists. So the right has Fox News and the left didn't really have anything, even though people were saying that the truth has a liberal bias, I guess.
Starting point is 00:47:29 But I do think things like crooked media and just the podcasting landscape in general is going to be helpful for just constantly resetting. OK, here's what they're saying has a, you know, is a liberal bias, but it's not actually a liberal bias. And I guess the thing is, too, as much as they want to say, well, conservative speech isn't hate speech, well, look at the kind of media that people who are acting out hate crimes, where are they getting their rocks off from a media standpoint? What Twitter accounts do they visit? What websites do they visit? And recently, like Ben Shapiro, who's just a fucking loser.
Starting point is 00:48:03 He's been attacking KD. Do you get emails from that guy? Do you get emails from that guy? You get emails from Ben Shapiro? Nice's just a fucking loser. Who's been attacking Katie. I get emails from that guy. Do I get emails from that guy? You get emails from Ben Shapiro? Nice. What are you trying to say? What? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:11 I don't ever open them. He's been attacking one of our friends on Twitter, but not attacking her, but just being like, well, look at this, guys. Like retweeting her and then just letting his like- Yeah, his trolls come at them. Rab, retweeting her and then just letting his rabid trolls, sexist, racist people. Right. So this guy in Montreal, I think, right?
Starting point is 00:48:30 It was in Quebec. Yeah. At the beginning of last year, this man shot a bunch of people at a mosque and killed six people. And during the trial, they started doing some forensic research on his sort of activity on the internet. And the week's- Media diet.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Yeah. Before the attack, this guy checked the Twitter feeds of just on the internet in the weeks media diet yeah before the attack this guy checked the twitter feeds of just all the top right-wing american commentators as well as conspiracy theorists alt-right white supremacists neo-nazi like all of it like we was checking out ben shapiro and fucking even tucker carlson richard spencer and colter mike cernovich alex jones like what's crazy is this happened in Canada, but these people are tuning into our crazy-ass fucking hate talk to get them all pumped up. And again, this is an example of shit that you want to hide behind
Starting point is 00:49:12 the description of it being conservative. Oh, yes. But it shouldn't even be a discussion of what these people are saying, and they can hide behind the ambiguity of their language all they want to, but it's very clear what kind of agenda they're pushing. And then very easy for them to be like, well, look, I didn't say that explicitly. And that's not fair to paint me with that because that person had just happened to like what I was saying. But I mean, at some point we have to acknowledge the overlap with these kinds of things. Well, I wish we could have that conversation, but we can't because of the
Starting point is 00:49:40 because of the veil of hate speech and calling it conservative. But like when people were coming out, or they still are, but people are coming at Roseanne, right? And they're like, the show shouldn't be allowed to be on the air. But it's the same thing as like you subscribing to the Breitbart emails. It's like, it's kind of good to get that sensibility. And what they're doing is they're having those debates that we're having at Thanksgiving, they're having them on TV. So we're all hearing both sides.
Starting point is 00:50:07 And I think whoever Roseanne is right now can be problematic on its own. But I do think there's value to getting that point of view on TV in a way that's controlled. You know what I mean? At the end of the day, you have liberal liberal ABC essentially having a leash on all of it. Well, right. And I think it is valid for people to understand if you're you have anti-immigrant sensibility in terms of your politics. If you can describe that in a way that is devoid of, well, I don't want rapists and murderers to come into my neighborhood. That's different than saying I'm worried about like if you have economic reasons, then sure, you should be able to talk that out. But the fact is a lot of that xenophobia can be debunked, like especially the arguments that they have by a lot of studies and
Starting point is 00:50:54 data and things like that. So, yes, I think it is important because conservatives just used to be like, well, I think we're spending too much money on these programs or whatever. And now it's turning into, look at these lazy people on welfare. They should be drug tested, right, I think we're spending too much money on these programs or whatever. And now it's turning into, look at these lazy people on welfare. They should be drug tested, right, before they can get any kind of benefits. They should blah, blah, blah. And, like, that's where you can tell that there is clearly a tinge of some other. It's not about exactly just saving money. It's about disenfranchising people and pulling out safety nets for certain people because they don't look like you.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Yeah, and there's always been a tinge. Like, Reagan was fucking tinged to death. But yeah, I mean, that shit has become way more mainstream. And yeah, I think that's a good point. We'll stop treating conservative speech like hate speech when you take the hatred out of the conservative platform. Well, I feel like as a Latina, I'm well aware of the fact that I'm part of what's about to become the biggest voting group.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Right. And I think conservatives, and everyone, honestly, is terrified of that. Terrified of full-on losing the majority. And so if we make you scared to even show up at the voting booth, then you won't. Right. And that's why they've done so much to redistrict and gerrymander and suppress votes, because that's the only way they can fight off something that is a mathematical advantage. Oh, yeah. And so, yeah, you might as well just double down on being
Starting point is 00:52:16 like, well, then maybe we can just get white people to be more aggressively about their own identities to get them to vote for us at the poll. I mean, we're not going to win any people of color. When they sat back and looked at the demographics, they were like, OK, we need to change our platform and just make our focus outreach to the Latin American community and, you know, immigrant community. How do you think that worked in 2016? Do you feel like they did a good job reaching out? Here's the thing about Latinos can be very, we are white. Latinos can be very, very like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:52:48 We just came here for the opportunities. We don't want any trouble. Like if you want us to be white, that's fine. We would prefer it in many scenarios. But I think a lot of Latinos actually put ownership on being anti-immigrant and being like they vote against their own interests. Yeah, I think that's human nature. I think especially for minorities, too, is to assimilate. And if part of assimilating is like taking on sort of like a political position, then so be it.
Starting point is 00:53:17 When I went to a Trump rally to hang out with my friends back in May of 2016, that was a joke. I was doing a piece where I was trying to understand Trump voters. I saw many Mexican American people that were from Orange County that were there and they had the same thing. They were like, well, you know what? My family came here illegally and I don't think it's fair that blah, blah, blah. And that's like, I heard that a lot more than anything. And even many immigrants, not just people from Mexico or Guatemala or anything, there were asian people that were doing it there was a group of chinese people that were there saying you know
Starting point is 00:53:48 man that internalized racism man i think it's just fear i think it's just fear of like i'm so lucky that this country made room for me but clearly there isn't enough room for all of us so you guys were just late like you can't. Yeah, my grandparents voted for Trump and it's like I tried to understand but there's literally a language barrier. Like they don't speak English and it's like even more that makes you go, wait, what?
Starting point is 00:54:15 Where are they from? Puerto Rico. Wow. Yeah. And how do they feel even with all the shit that went down in the hurricane? Do they feel, are they angered by that in their response?
Starting point is 00:54:24 I think my grandma's very like, eh, like. I'm not there anymore. Yeah. Out of sight, out of mind kind of thing. Of like, you know, there's a reason I left.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Wow. And there's a lot of that. There's a lot of that with the Latinos. There's a lot of infighting. There's a lot of self-loathing. But it all comes out like this. Like, I'm just going to vote for Trump
Starting point is 00:54:42 so nobody else can come and do what I did. Right. And it gets weird. Or, yeah yeah if you live in fear of conservative white people you'll adopt their mannerisms and shit to be like no i'm one of the good ones right you see right so please don't harm me because i'm actually falling in line with what you believe and then they can be like diamond and silk where ted cruz will be like now look at at these women of color that you are, blah, blah, blah. It's like, shut the fuck up, bro. This is not real shit.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Hey, thank you, my man. I'm working on it. I'm working on it. A lot of us don't even speak Spanish because our parents were so scared that we would have accents and couldn't pull off being like, I look white. And that was cool for them. They were like, nope.
Starting point is 00:55:25 They're like, great, she won't have to deal with any real weird racist shit because she could pass for white, right? I have given two full Barbaros to this conversation. Yeah. You could pass for white too, Jack. Oh my God, you have Barbaros jokes too? Yeah, yeah. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Oh, you like Barbaros jokes? Oh my God, me and my brother will not stop with the Michael. It's Michael. Miles, it's Michael. Miles, it's Michael. Always sounds like he's about to weep. And by pass for white, you mean? All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state.
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Starting point is 00:58:51 My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the Biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the Biscuits. It's right here in black and white in France. A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team?
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Starting point is 01:00:08 Cardi B has apparently become a pro-life icon. Yes, Cardi B is a pro-life icon right now. She's never said anything even remotely close about being anti-abortion in any way. However, this is the great part. even remotely close about being anti-abortion in any way. However, this is the great part, that basically, I think Ben Shapiro, again, he comes up again, he found a clip of Cardi B on The Breakfast Club talking to Charlamagne about why she wanted to have her kid. And because she basically said, she's like, I'm 25 years old.
Starting point is 01:00:40 I'm a schmillionaire. Yes, that's a quote. You know what I'm saying? I'm prepared for this. In other words, she was like, I'm looking at my life situation. I can handle a child. I'm choosing to have my child. You know, then she went on to talk about she's like, you know, a lot of women were coming up to me saying, oh, I feel sorry for you. Your career is over. And Cardi B says just like, why can't I have both? Why do I have to choose a career or a baby?
Starting point is 01:01:01 And she said, I want my kid now. So a lot of people have been like gathering these quotes to be like, listen to her. Go up against the feminist idea. This is what Faithwire said in an argument about this. They said, Cardi B, quote, doesn't believe in the feminist idea of not being able to be both pregnant and successful. Yes. Right. That's what feminism is.
Starting point is 01:01:21 She couldn't be more pro-choice in this scenario. No. That's what feminism is. She couldn't be more pro-choice in this scenario. No. She's spelling out that she thought about it and chose to have the child, knowing there was another option. Yes, exactly. She had a choice, it sounds like. Wait a second. No, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:40 I don't know. I might be high. We might just be high. I don't know. Maybe there was a choice. I don't know. I don't know. I might be high. We might just be high.
Starting point is 01:01:42 I don't know. Maybe there was a choice. I don't know. But yeah, it's just funny again how there's such a lack of likable people on that side that they're like, oh, well, Cardi B had a child, so she's a fucking pro-life icon. Like, what? Yeah. Yeah. Any woman who doesn't abort the baby is pro-life.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Did you know that? Yeah, I did. I did now. Every mother. Every mother in the world. Every mother is pro-life coming at you know that? I did now. Every mother. Every mother in the world. Every mother is pro-life. Coming at you. So, okay. Well, you know, Cardi's having a big week, so she can
Starting point is 01:02:10 throw a pro-life icon on her list of achievements. It is kind of sad for the Ben Shapiros of the world who's a small, tiny, tiny man, both in stature and just as a person. But yeah, that they are struggling that much
Starting point is 01:02:26 to have people actually making their viewpoints relevant because they are on board with a dying point of view. It's just funny because they just basically, hey, fellow kids, the whole pro-life thing, like, hey, fellow kids, you know that card i b that you like right she's a bodak brother oh god i don't know she's and bantai babortion i don't know what the fuck that they're it's like so fucking whack dude cardi would fuck them up man get the fuck out of her fucking lane obviously rihanna is pro-choice because she named her album Anti.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Thank you so much. Thank you. There it is. We also just wanted to talk about Barbara Bush, who passed yesterday. Who, you know, I guess just based on her appearance, I had always sort of associated her with a kind old lady. And I do remember in 2005, while visiting victims of Hurricane Katrina at the Astrodome, her saying some wildly problematic shit about how because they're underprivileged anyway,
Starting point is 01:03:37 this is working, quote, very well for them. Which the New York Times, by the way, described as her candor sometimes got her in trouble. That's not candor. That is just being a fucking classist, racist loon. But that's not the point, right? I do want to also focus on the fact that, yeah, you know, she was also just kind of a hard ass, badass.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Like, I assumed that her obituaries would not be the most interesting obituaries to read. And she was actually crazy interesting. And there are these quotes from her childhood friends who would say that they would come on the school bus in the morning and they say, quote, it would be all planned. Nobody's going to talk to June this morning.
Starting point is 01:04:24 You'd sit there on the bus with your friends and no one spoke to you. It was a dreadful feeling. So Barbara was coming on the bus and being like, you're not talking to her. We're not talking to her. You're talking to me. June is fucking excommunicated. Right. Fuck out of here. So that's one of her friends. She was like real housewiving. Right. Before.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Before. Right. In the 30s. Just like world class like legendary mean girl. And then another childhood friend is giving a hypothetical scenario. And she said she'd call ahead and say, we're not going to speak to June this morning. So again, they can't. June, man. Poor June.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Two different people? Two different people are talking about how she froze this girl June out when she was like a child. What did June do? Yeah, and she would also like make- June probably wore pink on a Wednesday. Right, right. Which we don't do. She wore white after Labor Day.
Starting point is 01:05:13 So June can get the fuck out. She would make fun of her friends for stammering or- Oh no, she was today. Today, June? Yeah. Damn, she's like the originator of all this cool shit. Original housewife, original Billy Madison. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:35 In reading her obituary, you really get the sense that she was sort of the brains and the balls behind the operation, like behind their couple. It's just interesting that there's also a quote in one of the obituaries where someone says, people always said Nancy Reagan would kill you if you said bad stuff about her. interesting that uh you know there's also a quote in one of the obituaries where someone says people always said nancy reagan would kill you if you said bad stuff about her uh says one staff aide who worked closely with the bushes but i always thought mrs bush was the one who would kill you um which i don't know i didn't know i know well i didn't know that about nancy reagan either i just think it's interesting to like, we should take a look back at first ladies who were, you know, like this,
Starting point is 01:06:10 who were just, you know, it was at a time when a lot of like brilliant and really tough women had to sort of sublimate themselves to their husband's careers. Right. And like, I really feel like in a lot of cases, you'll find that it was basically the women who are calling the shots like because Reagan did not seem like a very tough person. But apparently Nancy was just like not fucking around.
Starting point is 01:06:33 But it's also that thing of like the husband and the wife could have the same exact behavior. Right. And the woman's would be much more received as hostile. Of course. Whereas the man's would be received as like, boy, does he get it. Right. Right. You know, and so like I always wonder in scenarios where we are talking about it like that, how much of it was that?
Starting point is 01:06:56 How much of it was just a woman saying things? Right. That she had full right to maybe say. Yeah, no, I totally like I'm saying that I fucking respect this. Like, I think it's awesome because people have like genuine affection for her, but also seem to be terrified of her. Yeah. And like when then when you look at like what their depictions are, descriptions of her childhood time, too, was even like, you know, she basically told everybody she ran shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:23 From Jump Street. Right. If it was the school bus she fucking ran who even spoke to whom right you know i mean and then taking shots at uh who's it geraldine ferraro she referred to as quote that four million dollar i can't say it but it rhymes with rich and then everyone's like whoa so she referred to this person as a four million dollar bitch just like that was her nickname for them. But then she knew the optics that she was like,
Starting point is 01:07:47 the description of this write-up of hers, like she was mortified that she had let slip the mask that had concealed the mean streak that had first emerged in her childhood. She immediately apologized to Ferraro and kept her salty tongue in place for years afterward. So I don't know if the salty tongue thing is apt. Do you remember when Jeb was about to run
Starting point is 01:08:05 and or like was running and um there was a sound bite of her going like i don't know there's got to be another family that should be doing this right like she was essentially like i don't it can't just be two families that are just gonna keep going back and forth like another and then she got in trouble they were like, what are you doing? Mom. Yeah, that's why I feel like I bet, yo, those Bush children,
Starting point is 01:08:29 the sons of George H.W. Bush, were probably so shook of their mother. Oh my God. If that's her description, because if you look at Jeb and G.W., they're like,
Starting point is 01:08:38 well, like as if their mom would be like, is this your finger painting? Are you a fucking dumb fuck? That's weird. It looks like a fucking toe painting. Throw it in the trash, Jeb.
Starting point is 01:08:50 You idiot. What a fucking name, huh? I'm sorry, ladies. He's an idiot. It was Jeff, but I want you to be embarrassed the rest of your life. You're Jeb. Jeb. Is that short for Jebediah?
Starting point is 01:09:07 Oh, apparently, according to Super Producer Ana Hosnier, Jeb is not short for Jebediah. It is an acronym for his full name, which is- John Ellis Bush Sr. Or because you know why? Because John was probably like Barbara's father and she's like, he would be disappointed in you. You will be Jeb. Fuck out of here john oh i can't even i don't feel comfortable my father's urn rattling so uh yeah i mean look you know you
Starting point is 01:09:34 were clearly the matriarch of a dynastic political family right uh so you know shouts to you uh you know it's never nice you never want to hear about anyone passing away. Yeah. But it seemed like she did it on her terms, too, because she, I think, refused to have any more life-saving procedures over the weekend, they reported. So it seemed like- And just real quick, right before I died, nobody talked to June. Yeah, right. No one fucking talked to June. June, I know you showed up.
Starting point is 01:10:01 We are not talking to you. June's just in the corner like, aw. Yeah. Like, she's like wiping her head with a washcloth and she's like who let this bitch
Starting point is 01:10:08 in here June call the police two dollar bitch Marlena it's been a pleasure having you
Starting point is 01:10:17 thank you for having me guys this was super fun where can people find you I'm on twitter at Marlena Rodrigues I'm on instagram at Marlena Rodriguez. I'm on Instagram at
Starting point is 01:10:25 Marlena Got a Life. And just Google me. Just get in there. But I run a stand-up show in complete darkness called Dark, and that'll be on May 4th at Blair Kuyperian. So get in there. Oh, so the theater's completely dark? Yeah. Whoa. And we blindfold the audience
Starting point is 01:10:41 and the comics. Damn, and then you pickpocket them? I wish when's your show but I try not to be stereotypical that's fine well I'll be there when is it
Starting point is 01:10:51 hey if you're wealthy in the Los Angeles area please bring cash to the show it's a cash only show there will be merch for sale after and keep all of your money
Starting point is 01:11:00 loosely in your front pocket front pocket yeah cause it's just peeking out cause if someone's sitting you know what I mean you never try to pickpocket somebody sitting down Jack it doesn't feel money loosely in your front pocket front pocket yeah because it's just peeking out and i can just yeah yeah because if someone's sitting you know you never try to pick up somebody sitting down jack it doesn't feel you well that's your privilege miles where can people find you can find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray and also yes i was a very special guest
Starting point is 01:11:20 on the newest episode of culture kings that came out today. So I joined Jaquise and Edgar, very, very, very lovable guests from the Daily Zeitgeist on their show. And I entered the kingdom of culture. And we talked about whether or not any of us have peed ourselves at concerts. The answer to that is yes, I have. So check that out. You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. We are at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes!
Starting point is 01:11:53 Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. That's going to do it for today. Miles, what are we going to write up? Okay, so, you know, it's weed week, and I'm just doing a lot of weed-themed outro songs. This one is by The Internet. We've played a track by The Internet before. Shout out to LA's very own The Internet.
Starting point is 01:12:11 This song is called Get Away, and, you know, it's just about taking off to space, you know, with the magical plants. And it's just a great beat. The production is amazing. And, yeah, take care of yourself, guys. So you use it for an escape, huh, Miles? Do I use it for an escape?
Starting point is 01:12:27 To escape from your problems? Yeah, yeah. Typically, if I see, like, a family walking down the street, that just affects me very deeply. I think of my own situation. As you've heard, I think on the 100th episode, we went over that. If you want to hear about that trauma, it's right there. All right. But, yeah, weed is tight, though.
Starting point is 01:12:43 You know what I'm saying? It's chill, man. All right. But yeah, weed is tight, though. You know what I'm saying? It's chill, man. All right. That's going to do it for today. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. We'll talk to you guys then. Life of luxury, models in my money trees Such a beautiful company Fuck a 905, I'm seeing dollar signs But I'm still driving around in my old whip
Starting point is 01:13:14 Still living at home, got issues with my old chick She blowing up my phone, I tell her I can't buy some bullshit Like who's this, who who's that could be worse so to calm her nerves i just tell her roll up and down and light it let's go to space be my co-op be the pilot let's get away let's get away let's get away let's get away, let's get away, let's get away, baby, let's get away If money doesn't fall from grace, maybe we can make more name today Boy, let me discompany, and rest assured, I got it here Working for the final day Getting it all kind of ways
Starting point is 01:14:11 With me selling my champagne Every day we celebrate Fuck your little phones, a million ain't enough But I'm still driving, riding my own whip Still living at home, got issues with my new chick She blowing up my phone hot All I hear is womp, womp, womp, womp But it could be worse Girl, calm your nerves I want you to roll up and let it let it Let's go, respect Be my girl, I'll be the violet
Starting point is 01:14:46 I wanna take you away Let's get away Let's get away Let's get away Baby, let's get away Money doesn't fall from trees Maybe we can make believe All I need is calm
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Starting point is 01:16:21 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 1982, Atari players had one game on their minds, Sword Quest, because the company had promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists, but the prizes disappeared, leading to one of the biggest controversies in 80s pop culture. I'm Jamie Loftus.
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