The Daily Zeitgeist - Barbenheimer 2? 7/11: Barbenheimer 2.0, Gladiator 2 & Wicked, Redbox, Samsung Strike, Pebbling

Episode Date: July 11, 2024

In this edition of Barbenheimer 2?, Miles and special guest host Blake Wexler discuss film studios trying to make Barbenheimer happen again with Gladiator 2 and Wicked, Redbox shutting down their kiosk business, the Samsung strike in South Korea, the IRS collecting $1 billion in back taxes from high wealth tax cheats, Pebbling: a wholesome dating trend on the rise (?), and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Afternoon edition of Barf Trendheimer 2. That's something I just came up with right now. But yes, Brian, the editor, everyone is rolling. Thank you for checking in on that because, wait, Blake, the way you looked at your computer there, you were just verifying. You were.

I was verifying. I've been recording. I promise. Been rolling. I know. Been balling. We get it. Anyway, this is the Afternoon Trending Show.

This is what's trending on Thursday, July 11th. My name is Miles. I'm joined by Blake. I'm sorry. How do you say this last name? Blake Voxleast. Blake Voxleast. Voxleast.

Congratulations on your Subaru. I just want to say that publicly. Thank you. I told you that in confidence. You posted it on fucking Twitter. Freak. Brian, you're not on mute. We're glad we're making you laugh i think that's not a bad just in the back of going i kind of like that as a yeah it's like a studio audience yeah absolutely except he's also working

yeah right right it's like it it was sort of like the the laugh Kevin Eubanks used to do on the Tonight Show band. Yes, yes. Until they took his mic away. Did they take Kevin Eubanks' mic away? No, no. It's just spreading rumors that Jay Leno would be like, we can't. I believe it, too. I believe it, folks.

We can't give him a mic. Dig, dig, dig, dig, dig, dig, dig, Jay Leno. I'm the only one. Mavis told me you can't have a microphone, so he took it away. All right, Mavis. Oh, wow. What a fucking reference. That's Blake Wexler.

I nailed it. Thank you. Craigslist. He has a new Subaru that he was trying to keep on the low, but he can't because he posted about it. And he was also talking about it on this show, I believe, too, last time you were here. That is true. You got a good deal, though, right? You passively made your way to a great deal got a great deal i did passively over a period because i thought my

old lease was done six months ago so i i've been working on this car for a half a year so uh you know getting oh you were grinding people down i've been i was grinding people down in in a obsessively mentally unhealthy way where i couldn't stop thinking about cars um my wife and i had an inside bit where she'd be like hey like what are you doing right now and then i would just send her like a like a stock photo of a super which is like you know where i'm at yeah you know where my head is right now you wanted was that the color you wanted i only wanted it in that color yeah so they like that color called oh uh i don't like to use industry terms on here but an alpine green is uh what the color is yeah so it seems quite modern looks a

little pistachios uh i believe on there so when um britney carney very funny comedian says it looks like a pistachio cream which i'll push back on until the day I die in that car. I'm going to be buried in that car. It does look like pistachio. Wait, where did you post this? Am I completely hallucinating? Instagram.com. Oh, that's where it was. Instagram.com.

Anyway, that's not what's trending, although it is in our hearts and minds. This is what's trending on, what's that guy's name? Al Gore's internet. First one, Barb trendheimer too is because again people think this is so stupid people are predicting that are not predicting there is i think a hope from the studios that there could be a potential barbenheimer-esque you know uh synergistic opportunity here between

two films being released that'll bring everybody to the box office um with the release of gladiator 2 and the first part of wicked right before thanksgiving I don't know who thinks this could ever, this is not going to work. I don't even think, what is even the Venn diagram? There's no overlap between the Gladiator 2 crowd and the Wicked crowd. I think it's two movies that people are going to do on their own. Yeah, I know people who would go to war for their Broadway shows.

Maybe that's what it is. Let's see. What are they going to do? Some people say Glicked? Wickedator? Wickedator? I don't know, man.

I don't know. I'm glad that someone from my alma mater uh ucla although their actions towards student protests are fucking abysmal and atrocious someone from the school of theater film and tv said i'm not fully sold on this being barb and hymer 2.0 that's all you need to say it's all you need to say and he quoted it's good when studios release big titles simultaneously i do think that they feed off of each other that level of excitement i think all of those things work in both of these films i just don't think it's going to be the lightning in a bottle that barbenheimer was it's just not you have a like it's chris nolan is already gonna get people being like, oh shit, wow, the atomic bomb.

And then Barbie is just so culturally ubiquitous. Wicked does not have the cultural ubiquity of Barbie. Gladiator 2, definitely a thing. And even me, I'm like, I don't know if I'm going to go see it right away, but I do want to see it because that guy got ate by a shark somehow in the Coliseum. Well, they can't let those things out in the Col coliseum that's why the coliseum was so dangerous i thank you i if you're thinking about like into like movies to see or like cultural what like just these dumb like dude things where hitler trumps uh gladiator like trumps rome you know where we go this yep like people like there's

so much Hitler shit like bad Hitler yeah like people just sign up Hitler movies you know what I mean so I don't know I think like if I had to like engineer one it would have to be something like Space Jam but like a better version like something where like suddenly an entire generation goes huh yeah because that's what barbie did everyone go huh barbie and space jam wasn't a toy it would be if space jam was a toy also you know like yeah like if there was somehow like a a24 film version of like furby along yes take me elmo yeah like yeah a tickle me elmo a24 film and then i'm trying to like what's like an action property that we could pair that with also i do need to say i do realize that america did not drop the h-bomb on germany during world

war ii it was a world war ii reference more than hitler uh and it wasn't a hydrogen bomb either but no no and but who can keep track of those things other than joe rogan naming his comedy clubs after those bombs but i would say did he oh yeah the rooms in his uh comedy club is little boy and fat man oh my god what a fucking loser that's not a bit but i'm laughing as if but that's not a no i know yeah no i mean it's absurd that's it's crazy holy shit wow yeah i would say it's unnecessary but what is a culture you're right like what is and like it would have to be like burpees and pizza somehow you know yes and it's like perby right i don't know the sport of baseball you know yeah something exactly the world cup and

for coca-cola i don't know actually they're already a sponsor i don't know it's all fucked up guys just don't even try because the reason barbenheimer worked the first time because it was organic and people just said that shit and that's how it happened stop forcing it but nice try um some bad news in the world of entertainment and a revelation that i completely shocked me so red box one of the favorite ways to rent a dvd uh you know many years ago i remember i was a big lover of the red box they are shutting down their business due to bankruptcy and they are laying off more than a thousand employees and they're just basically just gonna like i think liquidate everything they got um this is the thing so shout out to everybody who look if my condolences for those who are you know their apps their world has been thrown an

absolute tailspin because of this news here's the thing i didn't know the parent company for red box is chicken soup for the soul entertainment how did i miss this this is like from the jack canfield books of like nonsense advice they also own crackle what that makes sense that does make sense that i see. Do you think we're going to get, because Redbox was stuck between, they didn't have as much of a reign as obviously a blockbuster before it or a Netflix after it. So blockbusters, people would make Pilgrim, Pilgrim, Pilgrim to them. Pilgrim. Yeah. Pilgrim. And there was even, you know, like a documentary, a script.

Yes. A scripted TV show about the last blockbuster. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I just feel like, you know,

Redbox, though a great, it was a terrific bridge, you know, I think it's something that we will appreciate long after the fact of like,

oh, thank God we had like a conciliatory, it's the Joe Biden of entertainment sources and they're like yeah you know it's kind of a stop gap and it you know it did its job and uh you know well enough it wasn't perfect but it wasn't even good at times but acknowledging that that the journey is over and then it slowly faded away right exactly or quickly in this case

have you when was the last time you ever use a red box yeah yeah i remember that they come in little sleeves because i think that's a thing i didn't like about it is that i enjoyed looking at like just opening up i don't know why i enjoy this as i'm saying this right now this doesn't sound interesting at all okay at least you had the cover like the dvd box when you went to a blockbuster but there was just these like sleeves i think yeah right like yeah it made it easier to lose for me yeah i lost them a lot like i lost a lot of those dvds i remember jesus did you use them yeah a couple times yeah yeah there was one right by the 7-eleven i used to live by and that would always be like because back before streaming,

that was like, shit, bro. It was Redbox and chill. I'm like, whatever the fuck is there, we're going to watch that and maybe this will be a weird date. I remember we would, as a family, my family was part of a circle where we would go get pizza, pick up pizza,

and then on the way home, stop by a Redbox. but you're right like they did need to have the things in stock isn't that funny is that sometimes you would you could want a movie and then you just weren't able to watch it we're like well i guess i guess i'll watch this unnecessary roughness yeah for a fourth or necessary roughness rather the comedy film uh with sinbad and everybody. All right. Next story that's trending, Samsung.

So you may have seen some videos of some wild demonstrations in South Korea where unionized workers at Samsung Electronics, they're saying, yo, we are on an indefinite strike. They announced this yesterday on Wednesday. yesterday on wednesday you know again because workers strike to get higher pay additional benefits and things that are owed to them as the people that you know create the fucking wealth for the c-suite to uh you know just do their partying with um thousands of members of the national samsung electronics union launched a temporary three-day strike on monday but the union said wednesday that it was announcing an indefinite strike, accusing the management of being unwilling to negotiate. Samsung is out here really trying to make sure that people are just their fears are laid.

They said, quote, Samsung Electronics will ensure no disruptions occur in the production lines. OK, the company remains committed to engaging in good faith negotiations with the union. Union representatives say that they are not engaging in good faith negotiations and they are still doing shit to complicate things for workers which guess what i believe that but yeah samsung is a huge huge it's like one of the is it the biggest company in south korea anyway they're they're massively uh outs they have outsized importance uh in south korea so good luck trying to not uh i don't know have your output be disrupted but i don't know how you do that when everybody uh is just packing

their shit up yeah that was supposed to be like good news like oh it's supposed to make you feel better as a consumer it's like wait a minute why isn't the output gonna be like it should be interrupted you know what i mean part of me is also just yeah like I don't know someone who's like oh thank god it's like it's not like you're if you want to buy something it's at the store yes you know what I mean it's like you're like well is the production going to be all

disrupted by strikes I was going to buy a fan tomorrow it's already there it's already there it's already there a couple months you may not be able to get that fan. But by then, it'll be fall. Yeah. So you won't need it. Well, look, hot labor, everything continues to move forward at a good click.

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income wow more than a million dollars in how how you do that i'd give a million dollars and more than 250 000 and recognized 250 000 in tax debt who are you who is this get your fucking money taken but yeah but it is it does need to be said that prior to this they were like going after people under 200 000 also because racism typically factors into things that are happening with the united states government uh the irs also audits black people quote up to 4.7 times the rate of non-black taxpayers which they said they're going to try and address that yeah what i would address that why what why why how did that even like where is that like racist smoky room meeting where they're like you know who we got to really hassle our black taxpayer i mean i guess it doesn't even need a smoky room because uh white

supremacy don't just be out on the front lawn yeah they don't even give a shit like it's it's terrible and also this was like this is did it this was just the past year right like this is kind of an early like returns on this policy where it's why would you so if you're the irs you probably want to be able to point to this stat that like oh hey like tax dodgers no one likes a person who dodges taxes. We took a billion dollars from that. Sounds so good. Like if a new regime comes in and rolls that back, because I think I saw Elizabeth Warren was making videos about this today, you know, which is Liz. I shout out to Liz, but it is one of these things where it's like, oh, no, everybody benefits. it's it is one of these things where it's like oh no everybody benefits if you take this money from these tax cheaters these billionaires why are you chasing after like these the little person

you know like and you're just not gonna wild because it's so evil recent statistics say that it's clear the top one percent is underpaying by around 160 billion a year oh good so one 160th you know what i mean yeah yeah like that's where it's always like no we did a good thing it's like hold on man you guys are there's there's estimates out there off of your own data that says there's 160 billion dollar fucking hole missing from people dodging their taxes but again that's how they can get people to be like oh okay that's why i say bittersweet because it's like yeah billion dollars they could be getting maybe at least maybe like i don't know try and get a hundred and then you can really pat each other on the back but or four yeah or or even get four

yeah i'll take it it's such a bar i'll take four yeah now blake we were making jokes before we we came on here about this that's not right yeah a story about pebbling and i didn't know what pebbling is because there's a high there's a headline that says psychologists explain pebbling and i was like okay a wholesome dating trend on the rise and i'm like what is going on so apparently this is a reference to the gentoo penguin uh where they you know like they're they're part of their mating ritual first of all they're they they have a mate for life and they form like just like sort of you know the notebook esque connections with their partners but part of this is during the breeding season the male penguin looks for the smoothest most perfect pebble and presents that to the desired mate

as of being like hey i'm i fuck with you here is your pebble yeah if she accepts then that is the foundation of their nest and this is from the forbes article and quote symbolizes the beginning of their life together and i was like well what the oh okay no i guess that's just the cutest thing i've ever heard okay yeah well how do we do that but apparently they're saying that humans are also doing this like but we are doing it in terms of, it's like these smaller gestures, um, that like sending memes, uh, videos we like. It's not, these are, these are our little ways to let someone know that we're thinking of them. And I guess I say like, it's just like, it's an act of care. Part of me is like, is it?

Cause sometimes I'm annoying the fuck out of her majesty. We've been like, yo, did you did you that fucking video i just sent you and she's like i don't need to see more like kendrick lamar music video breakdowns i'm like all right it's just this just being nice like what the fuck is this it's like hey oh yeah there's a term it's uh when you tell someone that you love you love them you know it's called it's leafing. It's like, what are you even saying? Isn't this how people are supposed to interact? Where you're supposed to be like, hey, here's something nice. Why do we need to...

I don't know. I don't know if I'm on the wrong side of this or not. No, no. It just feels like this weird trend of articles. We see this a lot on the show where people are just merely describing something that we all know to be true but like giving it more of like a succinct thing whether like versus like being like alienated from your labor it's like oh it's called presenteeism or quiet quitting or you know it's like these like very normal things in life but trying to kind of fit them into like these new slangy buzzwords

so like when they go on it's like it can be all kinds of ways like sharing music with someone gift giving handwritten notes i'm like this is acts of service these are love languages i'm gonna be honest this is the first time i've ever felt insane really on this show yes yes normally it's like you know chris crofton didn't we recently you're okay after that oh i saw i saw chris in national yeah it was great that was a great moment he was very sweet um to come to that show you just feel like the earth has been taken from under your feet because you're like this was just called affection kindness or like not affection but kindness gestures of kindness like oh we're oxygening it's like oh it's because you're breathing isn't this just something like i don't understand so if you don't have a dating trend yeah are there couples that just sit in silence and never meet each other like what isn't that just a person on the street

like what is this yeah someone's just like there's a tweet that they quoted in this forbes article said that friend who sometimes sends too many memes links and videos they're out there braving the most unwell digital spaces risking their mental health to hunt and gather for your amusement cherish them no i have friends like this they're just on an infinite tiktok scroll and they just habitually just put the the send function on the video they like that is and i know do you have people who do that where they just send you video after not even with a a comment just saying like they just send videos oh yeah all the time and i'm not on social media all the time so every now and then they're like yo did you see that video and i'm like oh i'm sorry dude i have not i have not

checked my inbox or whatever and i look and it's like there's like 42 and like uh which one it's like the one though the farting one yeah which of the 1700 ones there's 16 farting ones the one that um it was like the taco bell like after you have taco bell like sort of like that was a theme like okay well that's that was a good one that was a good one but that was a good one it was yeah that was a good one no i've i'm such a people pleaser that i used to watch every single one and feel a need to give them an original thought you know like whenever someone would send this to me and it's because yeah i've been pebbled to death i it's not pebbling it's stoning i've been yeah yeah yeah by these fucking videos pebbled to death in the public square in the public yeah i mean it's funny like i'm i have my people person my people pleasing tendencies too but it's funny like i also

have these like weird limits where sometimes like i'm just like dude i what the fuck do you want to do a lot of shit i can't me to do with all this shit? I can't fucking keep up with all this. I got other things I got to do. Versus other times someone will be like, hey, you want to go to this restaurant? In my mind, I'm like, hell no. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do that.

That's how mine comes out a lot of the time. Just not pushing back when someone makes a suggestion for something to do. That's how mine comes out a lot of the time. Just not pushing back when someone makes a suggestion for something to do. That's really funny. At least with a restaurant suggestion, they researched a restaurant. And then there was some critical thought involved. Some where just when you shoot off a video, it's so this is a minute and a half of my time. I stopped responding. It's the first time I've ever set a boundary in this way.

I just don't respond to it anymore unless someone says hey this is why i think you would like this and it's like oh okay cool now there's some effort being put in for a for a conversation back and forth i'm really curious who even said this is called pebbling that's that's what i'm interested in how did we get to us describing this because like in this one part they're talking about sharing music and it's basically what we did when we were burning custom cds for people like yo i'll throw all this shit on a cd this is for you this is a mixtape i made for you like we've been doing this so and like the pebbling i guess maybe just to give a bit more texture about like this is this is this is actually you showing that you really deeply care about someone.

And maybe I'm like, I don't know, I'm just like hooking up the homies with like the new mixtape. But I guess maybe I am a pebbler. I think you're a serial pebbler. And as a fellow pebbler, I think you nailed it where it's just adding a term to something that doesn't need a term and honestly i think it does it a disservice we're calling it pebbling it's like oh these penguins do it with pebble yeah that's not great i don't think it does the full justice of you're being thoughtful you're being thoughtful that's it you're a thoughtful friend i would describe i try to be as thoughtful as possible i like to to keep my ear open when people say they like something and then I can connect the dots and maybe find a gift or, you know, just a movie or whatever.

But yeah, we're just being thoughtful, man. Just being thoughtful, not pebbling. That's all. That's all. That's all. We're not pebbling. Okay. Sorry.

Not doing it. I'm going to be thoughtful. Oh, you wanted a pebbler? Well, guess what? All you get is a thoughtful human. Are you okay with that? I'm going to be thoughtful. Oh, you wanted a pebbler? Well, guess what? All you get is a thoughtful human. Are you okay with that? I'm not a Gen 2 penguin. Or Gen 2.

I'm sorry if I'm mispronouncing that. Or Hen 2. Look. I'm a flesh and blood dude, man. Now you're burning CDs. The foundation of our nest is CDs. You know what? No one even has.

Memorexes. Oh, man. Oh, we're using Henn hidden with the memorex is it live or is it memorex you know the are the real shout out to everybody who had the verbatim when you're picking up the spindle of verbatims you know what i mean oh my god well anyway that's gonna do it for us as we fucking loser millennials talk about blank cds they love or do the cdrw you know i mean you can rinse and reuse anyway anyway so we don't have to talk too much about it but yeah you could reuse us anyway um that's gonna do it for us today we are gonna be back tomorrow with a brand new episode uh it's gonna i'm telling you the energy in tomorrow's episode

it's it's great you should wear some kind of ankle like weights or something to keep your body from levitating off of the ground because it's a life jacket also it gets pretty goofy um in the best way that only blake and i can do um so thank you blake for joining me i will see soon. I will see y'all soon. In terms of the listeners, I'll hear you soon. We'll be back, like I said, tomorrow. Until then, take care of yourselves. Take care of each other. Get your flu shots. Get your vaccines.

Get your fucking, wear your masks, man. The fucking COVID never went away. This is LA. Shit never went away. Even though Joe Biden was like, I ended it. You're like, well, no, you ended support. you ended helping out but yeah yeah i hear you yeah yeah so that part ended and yeah have fun that's that's what i'd say kids just have fun hey turn that baseball cap backwards and have a bring your pebbles out come on yeah send those memes both yeah get us with our with

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