The Daily Zeitgeist - Begging For A Coup, Ben Shapiro IS Hollywood 1.5.21

Episode Date: January 5, 2021

In episode 784, Jack and Miles are joined by American Hysteria podcast host Chelsey Weber-Smith to discuss the second stimulus check, the Georgia runoff election, Trump's call to the Georgia Secretary of State, Ben Shapiro coming to Hollywood, Hilaria Baldwin, Bean Dad, Dunkin's extra charged coffee, and more!FOOTNOTES: Second stimulus check: IRS says the $600 payments are now on their way. But how soon is now? The latest on Georgia runoff and Trump's bid to overturn the election Here’s the full transcript and audio of the call between Trump and Raffensperger ‘I just want to find 11,780 votes’: In extraordinary hour-long call, Trump pressures Georgia secretary of state to recalculate the vote in his favor Trump’s Phone Call Is What Coup Fever Looks Like The Daily Wire Makes First Foray Into Film & TV With School Shooting Movie ‘Run Hide Fight’; Right-Wing Site Developing Two TV Series WATCH: 6 times Hilaria Baldwin’s dubious Spanish accent has gone wrong on camera | Page Six Celebrity News Unpacking the Drama Around Hilaria Baldwin’s Accent Ken Jennings Defends Co-Podcaster John Roderick Amid "Bean Dad" Controversy The Story Behind Dunkin’s Extra Charged Coffee WATCH: GAZZILLION EAR - MF DOOM, J Dilla Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Tuesday, January 5th, 2021. 15 days until January 20th. Zero new COVID cases in New Zealand yesterday. Zero deaths since late September. And the U.S. is a mess. It's just a mess. We'll just leave it at that.

My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Miles and Jack are back again. Done our 2021 thing. Psych ain't got it going on. Not that Trump is almost gone. Oh, man. Wow, that fucking song.

Yeah. Never skipped a beat. No. No. I was like, wow. Wow. This is swag. How much our idea

has changed. I'm like, damn, he really came. No've never never missed a beat uh shout out to let me see on the discord uh that was from garblo jones garblo jones garblo jones work garblo to garblo greta garbla uh well. Yeah. We're back. We're back. It's been a while. We took a break from the show, from each other. Real touching go there.

Great to see you. Great to hear your voice. Likewise. Alright. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious, the talented, the brilliant, Chelsea Weber-Smith! Ayo!

Ayo, ayo! Chelsea, where are you coming to us from? What part of the earth are you at? I am in Seattle, and it's been raining for two weeks, I think. You can't really walk. Yeah, it's real depressing here. So all you can do is sit in your basement. Does that contribute to people's ability to socially distance or do

you feel like in a place like that where you're accustomed to the rain it's not much of a factor well i feel like you're not going outside as much right so it feels like maybe you're gonna try to get whatever with with people sure in inside so maybe that's bad but i don't know i'm not a scientist hey i'm no'm no scientist. I'm no scientist, but it's been raining. Speaking of the rain, there was this article. First of all, there was a rainstorm in

LA that had people on Twitter being like, what is this madness? What is this water falling from the sky? But it was extra violent, and LA is not prepared. It's just not built for that much rain. I had left two of my trash cans on the curb,

and they were down the street and around the corner. They got washed away. It was wild. They got swept away? Yeah, they got swept away. i just i don't know my mind like the storm was so they became sentient and we're like we gotta go yo um but there's a there was an article i have to figure out what magazine it was in but over the uh two weeks that we weren't recording about how every like 200 years,

there's like this massive rainstorm in Southern and Central California. It's up north, the one that we got to worry about. Oh, it's bad, man. Because it could wipe out the capital, the entire Central Valley. And it's, oh yeah, it's always been, it's like this horrific thing. I used to always smoke weed and think about in college. Oh yeah. With my other like trip,

like edgelord friends were like, nah, man, the thing we got to worry about is that Delta up there flooding in a huge flood. And then what happens? Yeah. It's bad for Central Coast.

It's also bad for just everywhere because that's, they grow like the food, an unprecedented amount of food. It's also bad for lots of other parts of California because of all the chemicals that are used on the farms up there. So those will just flood everywhere and then dry up and turn into poison dust. Anyways. What do you think teenagers right now who are smoking weed? Because I did the same thing, except I had a little bit of an apocalypse prepper dad.

And so, Oh, not dad. Okay. I just meant my vibe. No, no, I still have an apocalypse prepper vibe.

Don't worry. No. Within reason. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. But you know, casual.

But what are they thinking now? What are those kids who are getting too high, you know know alone in their house like it must be way more hardcore oh i feel so yeah i have a lot of empathy for teens right now because i would be tripping if i couldn't see my friends and i couldn't do oh i feel like you'd be smoking weed and the kind of thoughts you have given like the world you're like you know like with automation man like what if we're not even smoking the weed anymore after this you know what i mean you're fully in the simulation

and then like you have that moment like it's all i have to offer to smoke weed to differentiate me from the automatons oh man yeah definitely don't a terrible time to be a night like young and nihilistic i would say absolutely chelsea we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we are going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about we're going to catch up on the stimulus checks where we're at with the 600 and uh the blocking of the 2000 stimulus checks in the United States. The Senate hangs in the balance over an election happening in Georgia today. And Trump was caught on tape just straight up asking for the Georgia Secretary of State to find votes to make him the winner in Georgia, which wouldn't even win him the election.

But yeah. Then we'll talk about Hilaria Baldwin. We'll talk about Bean Dad. We'll talk about Wonder Woman 84. Hilaria. We'll talk about Dunkin' Donuts. They got a new hyper extra supercharged coffee that I'm excited about.

All of that, plenty more. But Chelsea, first we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? what do i have here for you um oh it's all of it is so weird uh for what i do for uh for the podcast but today i got for you disney villains gay drag queens so all right all right so i mean first first explain. Yeah, hit it. Okay, American Hysteria, your show. Sure. Talking about, you know, what we were saying before off mic,

Jack loves a little satanic panic, moral panic, you know, mass hysteria. Is it psychology? Is it science? And that's kind of, that's what you focus on. That's kind of your bag right now. And what's so cool is that Cracked was one of my original inspos for learning about the satanic panic. I mean, you guys had kind of like good listicles about different moral panics and stuff. And that was a really – I got ideas from you, man.

So it's really cool. Okay. So the church should be coming soon. Yeah, hopefully. You're not going to like how much it is. It all adds up. That's our mentality. Yeah, baby. No donation to like how much it is. It all adds up. That's our mentality. Yeah, baby.

No donation too small in this church. Truly, truly. But so I was asking, I was like, what kind of rabbit hole? I'm guessing you were saying, well, let's talk about it on the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's in your shirt? What's going on in there? Well, so yeah, we cover a lot of conspiracy theories and moral panics, but eventually we kind of have moved into sort of a bigger picture of like how American narrativesdo, sort of the classic fist fight stuff that people really there was like a big outcry about.

And so, you know, I went in just being like, oh, these are such great vehicles of hysteria. That's what our season is about because they spread moral panics. You know, I mean, Geraldo had his satanic panic special. But, you know, I figured I'd already talked about all that stuff in different ways. So I started reading these academic texts, which I love to do about, you know, trash talk shows and their cultural value. And I just found so much about visibility in talk shows and about how, you know, people who were gender nonconforming, for example, had no venue.

And even though they were ridiculed on these shows, it was the one place where someone was letting them speak for themselves. And so it's just all about how activists would sneak in their messages. And they would actually train each other to go on talk shows to say, OK, you're going to get made fun of. People are going to whoop and yell and be really mean to you. But you're going to have this 15 seconds where you can say your piece. And they would get a bunch of letters after. But the problem was is that white supremacists also did that. I don't know if you guys remember the fist fight of Geraldo, fame of, you know,

Roy Ennis, the black activist and the skinhead dude. So it's just this. And then they would get their message their moment and they trained each other about how to be on talk shows so it's just this like so much richer than just being like oh it's like a mother-daughter dominatrix team right right you know um so it's just i i don't know i always i always find a lot more than i think you know it always has a lot a lot of like value that I didn't at all expect. So that, that's been my, my big rabbit hole. And, you know, there's so much about class and

it's, it's, it is a rabbit hole, but, but you guys can listen to that episode. So it's coming out. Cause I feel like it almost as when you're young and you watch shows like that, it kind of, it almost sets your expectation for where society is in terms of a given issue. It's like, wait, someone is having sex with their stepdaughter, but they're not related? Boo! Yeah. Right, right, right. Okay, that's boo.

That's boo. And then you're like, oh, trans person, like maybe being on the low, and then the deception. Back then, it's like you were trained to be like, that's deception! What the fuck? Because that was like the thing. And I think it's a really underrated way of even if you're like, oh, these people, this is bullshit. But it has this effect of like the spectacle of it all and being like, oh, that's the reaction the mass group is having to this thing.

It's just pure uncut judgment. It's like the actual physical embodiment of like public opinion right but think about it as like a twitter thread right so everybody's coming on and like basically getting in fist fight like verbal fist fights and but everybody but it's like this horrible horrible and wonderful democratic thing right but it's so complicated because you don't know what it's too dangerous but we want to protect free speech and it's just this like total for me it's just a talk show now but it's it's a global all no holds barred talk show that like spills into the streets now when you know people are getting in like antifa trump supporter fistfights we made

like twitter of a talk show how much that would ease people up to be like, I just watched the talk show version where the white supremacist is going to go with the, you know, anti-capitalist, whatever, whatever the fuck. Yeah. And just kind of watch that and be like,

huh? Yeah. Maybe that's a way to do it too. Yeah. But I mean, what if we saw each other's, what if we saw each other's faces again too? You know,

like that's a, that's like a very human thing to miss when you're talking to someone is your facial expressions and budding ethno-nationalists are like that guy's not that cool looking actually yeah he's kind of a dink yeah like the captain america with like red laser eyes avatar is way cooler than this whatever i'm witnessing okay edgelord tweets yeah yeah maybe i'll maybe i'll go back to my reading group. Chelsea, how does that all tie back to Disney villains? Oh yeah. Oh God.

Right. Well, that's our next episode is, is called Disneyfication. So how, how we've kind of cartoonized our culture and ourselves and infantilization is a big theme of, you know, childhood being a really new thing that that really didn't exist like as as a period of time until after um child labor laws were passed and that's like the 20s and 30s

and you get this like the child becomes precious you know you get stuffed animals instead of you know we make soft all of these hard things so that's kind of what that is and then of course the the sort of revisionist history is another part of it and softening our history of you know genocide slavery whatever you want you know all of it is kind of there in disney but it's it's just like made into like a stuffed animal version um and then the disney villains is mostly that's a fun one because if you go back and you think about all of the disney villains they're either very effeminate or they're very like drag queeny you know like you know ursula is based on point dude oh baby yeah and i mean like ursula is based on divine so like literally period yeah i'm like right oh yep so yeah it. Isn't that so? Yeah, it's like, oh, duh. Right?

Right. And so there's just like this thread. And you know, the lyricist is. Jafar is, I don't know, but he's just, you know, he's very like. Yeah, Jafar is, he's giving me something. Yeah. And I was like. It's gay vibes.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's like very gay. And I mean, Scar, right? Yeah, Scar. He's just a super, super homo. And I mean, I think of Gaston's just a super, super homo. And I mean, I think of Gaston.

He's my personal favorite Disney character. So that's problematic. But he's just like throwing himself back on the chair and showing his, you know, I use antlers in all of my decorating. And so just sort of like, what's that about to like the effeminate? Because that's also a theme in horror, right? Is like the, the cross dressing, you know, um, Ed Gein inspired, uh, psycho villain.

Um, so it's just, I'm just like, what we do is we just go in every direction possible. And then I find like the root and then we chisel it all down. So right now, gay Disney villains is my, uh, it where you're at. It's where I'm at, baby. In the chiseling. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated is I had, basically, I talked about it already. I talked about talk shows, and that was what I'd written down. So I ruined my thing already.

But yeah, I mean, it's just such a, I recommend this book, Freaks Talk Back. And of course, I'm going to forget the guy's name because I'm an asshole. But it's really great. And it's just a, he's a gay academic and I think maybe a philosopher. So it's just this really fun book about, and it talks about freak shows. Gamson, thank you so much. Yeah. And talks about freak shows and kind of compares sort of the visibility for people with disabilities that existed because we look back and like pity this thing, which is also really like kind of gross because these folks had a lot more agency than we give them credit for, you know? And so we just, it's sort of about like, you know, middle-class pity and all of these different

things. So that's I just I find I guess I found that trash talk shows are severely underrated, at least as a cultural study. What's something you think is overrated? The flight attendant. The show. Have you guys watched it at all? No, but the only take I hear from people is being like, damn, I started watching The Flight Attendant as if it's like tortured. No one's been unequivocal.

It's always been like, it's bad. Or it's like, it's so bad, it's good. But I don't know. I can't stop watching. So I'm like, is it? But it's got like a friggin like 98 or something on rotten tomatoes so it's like everything i've seen on twitter is people just being like i'm obsessed with this it's so good yeah i've seen a very positive reaction yeah and it's just like i kept

falling asleep and i kept like you know coming into my partner's just you know i'm asking her like what the fuck is going on every one minute. And so eventually we just couldn't like, my brain just doesn't do well with that type of, that type of thing where you have to remember so many different facets, but it's just like, it's a comic book style. Like I mostly watch like melodramatic murder shows starring teenagers, you know, like,

or like a euphoria type euphoria or like Degrassi or Jersey shore. Those are. Yeah. No, I have not watched that yet. Yeah. I mean, almost. euphoria or like degrassi or jersey shore those are cobra kai yeah yeah jersey shore one of my favorite murder shows yeah i mean almost basically there's some serious fights in that fight on the boardwalk i mean remember that was almost a murder bro it was a one hit like he was a ko baby just and he ran away just i remember being like that's's right, bro. One hitter, bro. I know you can't help it. You're just like, yeah, yeah, get him.

Run! And I mean, how much like that is trash talk shows taken to another level where it's just like, we want to see this fist fight. But we're not allowed to have fist fights. But we're like, but I'll watch a fist fight. But yeah, so flight attendant, sorry. Flight attendant, sorry. My assumption based on the things I had heard was that it was more of a straightforward murder mystery, but it's by the dude who made Riverdale.

Oh, it is? Yeah. I liked Riverdale. Chelsea's back in. I'm back in. Okay, I'm back. I've heard it's heightened, kind of, or it's just sort of a weird, poppy reality.

Oh, no. The person who made Riverdale surely couldn't have written something that was slightly exaggerated. Right. The melodrama of that show is so huge. And I love it. I just started watching Bridgerton. I know. I finished Bridgerton.

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And we're back. So the $600 stimulus checks are in the mail the irs is going to be putting up a website where you can track whether uh where your check is at um or they were entering people's bank accounts uh direct deposit over the past couple days and there was a strange political occurrence where both democrats and uh donald trump were kind of on the same page about the idea of a two thousand dollar stimulus um and then it got blocked by republicans and also like some establishment democrats right yeah mitch mcconnell is really really making a meal of it more than anything and it was funny even to hear lindsey graham try and be like

two thousand dollars isn't socialism guy it's people need the money and i'm like right i was like shut the fuck up wait what like i couldn't believe where people were ending up towards the end of the year on this thing where, again, the calculus was really strange for some Republicans who were acknowledging the suffering of people and then others who were usually scheduled programming, which is like, I don't know. I'm too rich to know what the blight of the working people are. So, yeah, I don't know. Oh, Venmo though, they're doing their part. If you have a physical check, you can cash through Venmo. They're trying to make it as easy

as possible because people need the money fucking immediately. And yeah, they should be like, yeah, why don't you avoid going into a check cashing line or something like that in the time of COVID or something like that. Let's make this as easy as possible. But yeah, the debate around it was really, really odd because on one hand, you're like, okay, so either Trump, you know, I think maybe he's merely just taking this side to make it as chaotic

for Republicans because he's mad at them because he surely never actually like had any kind of empathy for these people, for anyone, really. Yeah, he's incapable of that. Well, that's one example of the stakes of today's election. There are two Senate seats in Georgia that are up for grabs. I have no idea what's going to happen. Nobody has any idea what's going to happen. It's something that we learned in the 2020 election. Just floor it, y'all. Just floor it, you know? Yeah. Don't look at the

polls. We just got to floor it. And every election is just floor it. Who cares? Man, I accidentally made friends with a Trump supporter recently. It was one of those things where it didn't come out. It's so weird how long you can know someone before you know that, like how much you can have in common with someone. then suddenly it's like oh like there's just like it's so like poison and uh yeah all of a sudden he realized that not you know he real he was a christian conservative and i didn't know it and he realized that i was gay and a bunch of other you know things like i was a liberal and he was terrified of it. He was so scared of me. And he was like, you know, like you guys, like if you get the, if you guys flip the Senate,

if you flip the Senate, you're going to have total control. And he was terrified. Like we were going to do something, you know? And I mean, it's conspiracy theories, right? It's just, that's all it is. But it was just really weird. Cause I haven't, I mean, I'm, we're all in our bubbles. I don't talk to Trump supporters very often. And it was like, I'm a small little person. And there was like true fear of just like a liberal person. Yeah, it was bizarre. It was really strange. Yeah.

But then I felt a little powerful too. Yeah. And then you're like, well, then you better fucking watch it, bud. Yeah, back up. Who knows how I'm going to make you wear all kinds of weird clothes bro yeah you got no idea you're a woman now whenever i trawl the conservative message boards and websites and think comment sections just because i always that's always where i get a taste of where they're at like when they're talking to

each other about their common shared fear as much how liberal people do of being like oh i'm afraid of like revocation of rights for people uh you know being deported not being seen as human because of my gender identity or present to whatever etc but over there on that side it is the fema camps are about to go up wait till they round you up and your mandatory estrogen. And I know it's like half flippant, but the energy is there to at least keep talking about it. So if you don't legit believe that, I'm not sure what it is, but their news media has done a great job of spinning the pursuit of equality into some kind of like aggressive act to take your life because that's how they're looking at things. Yeah, you become a victim so you can be an abuser, right? That's like pretty classic, yeah.

I feel like the dissonance is like they, at least a portion of them have to be aware of the fact that the things they are claiming out loud or the threats are not the thing they're actually afraid of and the thing they're actually afraid of is, you know, the things that white supremacists say out loud, like losing ground. White genocide. Or that even this whole thing that they deny till the ends of their lives,

white supremacy, systemic racism, whatever, is real. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? I think there's people who are still even guarding themselves from saying, that's real. Yeah. And I think there's people who are still even guarding themselves from saying that's real. Yeah. And I think there's even that level. Some people are like, it's real and whatever.

Like, but I'm not racist. That's one form of it. Yeah. Quote unquote. And then there are people like, no, no way. Because then what? So I have things because of just who I, how I know. Yeah. My parents got divorced once.

Yeah, exactly. I don't have privilege. It's like that all over. Chelsea, you mentioned bubbles. And I do, one way that I think this election is interesting is it's our first since 2020, which, I mean, we should have known, but I think definitively proved that polls are just, you know, they were just a thunder vest that we were wearing to make these social media edited bubbles that give us distorted versions of reality, like things like polls. I think people want something like that.

But it's just interesting because like 538 for most of this election, like wasn't even putting up a like aggregator and it's just i think people have just generally like given up on polls because they were so uh fucked in the 2020 president presidential election that it's just it's over for that i think it's like our divining you know like humans want to like divine things and like try to tell the future. And it's just like our official version of trying to, you know, like tarot cards or something. Yeah. But the Democrats need to turn out the vote like more than they did in the presidential election. So it's an uphill battle.

I mean, there's. Yeah. election so it's a it's an uphill battle for i mean there's yeah you know like all the the numbers that they can parse through are like the ones that indicate at the very least a lot of energy down there don't know how it's going to split it it's split the right way for the right people last time but this time uh yeah i don't know just like fucking pedal to the metal y'all uh yeah it's gonna be crazy it's so it's just like i don't know it's so crazy it's and it's tough too because the other part of it is again we're seeing the same group of activists and organizers who were turning people out for the presidential

back to work for this runoff and i'm just you know is going to bring up the conversation again of who who knows how people are responding on the ground. Is it the Nancy nine hundred thousand dollar refrigerator crew or is it activists who are having the same lived experiences as the people that are voting? voting and i have a feeling if you know if there's a way to actually you know even fucking split get you know get at the very least if we can get to 50 50 i mean that's what we'd have to do anyway to win both seats but to get there um i would have to really bring this discussion up again because while there are you know john ossoff likes to say like he's you know for one thing one day and then against it the other because he's a politician trying to get elected and not really a person of pure conviction trying to enter office. He's a politician. What that means going forward and who we're actually giving greater influence to, I don't know.

But we're clearly seeing the establishment wants to hold on to that ball as long as possible. Yeah. I mean, an additional sort of factor or variable that entered the equation over the weekend was that the president, Donald Trump, was caught on tape just like straight up asking for the Georgia secretary of state uh to find votes to make him winner in georgia winner chicken dinner everything yeah but would that even make a difference would georgia make a difference that's what the question that occurred to me was so does he have this already somewhere else like to is he he's what it was it's 308 is what biden has so he would go down to 290 and i'm sorry you need you needed some other ones too but i guess in those days there's too many democrats there and other like republicans or people with spines who are like oh no yeah that's not gonna happen but he's sowing the idea and that's the dangerous part right it's like he's sowing to the

people like if he were to somehow get georgia flipped then it would make everything illegitimate yeah it would start the process yeah yeah i mean just listening because again here's the thing it's it's this is another one of those examples where we're laughing at the attempted coup yeah because it's we have the most low energy coup on the in the history of mankind uh in the form of just like suggesting like aziz ansari on a date like what you're into like right just like a very creed like what are you saying dude this is very uncomfortable because you're asking someone to completely commit fraud and i just want to play this clip or parts of it where I don't know how, what psych, like rhetorical strategy the president is. I forget it. Why am I even trying to think there

is a rhetorical strategy? Just fucking listen to this. Numbers are going to be repeated on Monday night, along with others that we're going to have by that time, which are much more substantially. But, and the people of Georgia are angry. The people of the country are angry, and there's nothing wrong with saying that, you know, that you've recalculated. Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is the data you have is wrong. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I mean, wow, dude, that Raffensperger's been probably waiting for that moment. He's been doing push-ups to just clap back with that. It sounds like what every bureaucrat would love to say when the numbers are on your side,

and you're like, I'm sorry, but what you're talking is straight shit, my man. The challenge you have. Yeah. So there's one problem with that approach is that it's not true. The numbers you have are completely wrong. Yeah. He's saying like, I need you to find these 11,000 votes. So look, all I want to do is I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state.

That is, yeah. So he lost by 11,779. So he's just like, give give me the extra vote just give me one then say you're recalculating that's how i need and then i will deploy my army of goon lawyers who have then spread conspiracy theories like whatever fucking lynn wood is now saying there's like some i don't know there's like some reptile squad he's talking about. Yo, this is my shit. Yeah, your bread and butter. I can tell you the entire history of the Illuminati story from the very beginning of American history.

From the Illuminated who smoke weed. Yeah, us. Yeah. I remember. Dude, I read the Illuminati trilogy. I was like, oh. Oh, shit. Yeah, dude.

I was. The Illuminated. I'm a former conspiracy theorist. That's how I. But back when the conspiracy theories were more on the left. shit, yeah, dude. I was- You illuminated. I'm a former conspiracy theorist. That's how I, but back when the conspiracy theories were like more on the left, you know, like back with like, you know, loose change and Zeitgeist, the movie Zeitgeist and all that garbage. And then you come in and you're like, oh, well, okay. Well, somebody said an anti-Semitic thing to me and I was like, oh, whoa, what am I

into here? And then I, you know, dove into like the real history of this story and how you know it's been sure it's been sanitized but still right has the same heart you know and it's just coming and it's really coming back now with the satanic panic which we yeah yeah it's it's fantastic i mean because yeah there are i saw many clips of people praying for the forces of christ to ride in on a fucking golden pegasus to like bash Capitol Hills head open and make sure that Trump remains God, God president forever. And of course, you got to get rid of the satanic pedophiles.

That's that's the you can't leave those alone. But then what's this photo of your president with said satanic? Is there any satanic satan satanism running off and also shout out to satanists who are also challenged like up in the courts now doing their thing too be like okay well you know if people want to throw around their freedom of religion to fuck with people uh many people can play that game too yep um anyway so shout out satan um i remember the first time someone was like i was like do you even know what satanism is because i said like this is like maybe in college and like you should read it

and i was like because christ is about abstinence okay whereas like satan is about indulgence to a certain point and understand like okay whoa whoa do what that will will be yeah i was just like reading things like if you can't respect someone do not have them in your home i'm like yo that's just actually good man like don't be fake yeah it's true it's very chill it's a very chill yeah no one on a reality show is a satanist that's what we found out because there would be no drama if you follow these things but that makes sense yeah this uh yeah i don't know the the whole evolution of this pressure campaign to thwart the will of the people it's really something and even like to how we cover elections like we're also looking at this isn't getting better because fox and oan and

news they all stay on their version of like slightly just keeping that pot just starting a little bit never fully dumping it out and be like no you got to get off that i mean some parts of fox have but it's clear that since ratings is their God, then they just have to pivot to like feeding as much airtime to these fantastic nonsense as possible. Yeah. And as we were talking about, I guess the strategy would be that he has leverage in Georgia because he knows that they want to turn out the vote and win the Senate seats. And so I think his strategy is probably

you know use that to be like this would energize the the people the people are mad if you overturn the presidential election then you're gonna have get them energized otherwise you have this you know he's basically holding them hostage um but he's i mean it's straight up like the it's as bad as the watergate tapes like he's just on the phone uh days before the election being like find me you know hook it up yeah and then threatening them with legal action there was something like being he tried to call brad like 18 times or some shit before he picked up. Damn. Like after that, he was like, fuck.

All right. I got it. I have to fucking talk to this fool. He's like, you got all the recording gear ready? Yeah, exactly. He was like, hey, turn me up in my headphone. Okay. Hit him with the flutes.

Oh, boy. Just one thing about all this. As we talk about this and laugh about it uh these are crimes okay as much as we're like this motherfucker is so bad on the phone um that is you know so many legal experts are like um so i think we need to imp are y'all need to impeach him again are there going to be investigations these are this is like election fraud that he's attempting and these are like things you can't pardon yourself from um is that true you can't pardon yourself from them no unfortunate unfortunately you cannot do that um because these are also charges would be state charges too oh they're

state charges okay right yeah it's all kinds of bad but i don't know but that's the other thing is yeah we have all these moments where are we like everything. So the wheels are completely have come off this thing. The are, you know, our soapbox derby cars fully on fire. And I don't know if this we're still have enough to have any kind of reckoning about anything. And we're just going to set ourselves up for something worse next time if we don't do anything. Right. worse next time if we don't do anything right one thing that you know as the landscape is changing and you know a democrat is entering the white house uh the right the um conservative media is kind of scrambling to to be the next fox news because fox news took a hit when they didn't go along with Trump's attempt to invalidate the election.

And Ben Shapiro has his eyes on Hollywood, baby. Fuck yeah. Stars in his eyes. Look, with the help of his cousin, Mauro Wilson of Mrs. Doubtfire fame, they're teaming up. No, I'm joking. I know they're cousins, but they don't talk.

So the Daily Wire, like you said, they're dippinging up no i'm joking i know they're i know they're cousins but they don't talk um so the daily wire like you said they're dipping their foot in his uh i guess his like co-founder or partner of the at the daily wire this guy jeremy boring great name um have talked about you know like why like why they're dabbling now okay so i just want to just this is what their 10 000 foot view is of their new production company called Phobia Films. It's called I don't know what it's called, actually, but this is what he said. Right now, we're developing three projects internally, two series and a feature. Since announcing our move into the space, we've heard from quite a few filmmakers with outside the box pitches unlikely to find a home in the current political climate. If people continue to subscribe, as we believe they will, we'll be acquiring more and more projects.

If you're fed up with the cultural edicts of our country's self-appointed moral overlords in Hollywood and legacy media, stay tuned. That was sort of the, okay. Now I'm curious what kind of pitches that means, because these are great euphemisms. Outside the box pitches, unlikely to find a home in the current political climate. So you mean problematic, dumb shit that no self-respecting person would touch because it's dangerous and toxic to people that would view it. But OK.

Do you guys ever think about what Republicans watch on TV? Because there's not like I guess it's like prime time right because it's like if you watch Netflix it's just not gonna be something I feel like conservative Christian Republicans are gonna want to watch and I settled on probably just like a lot of Hallmark no they vibe with all of it they just hate that they just hate that they don't have anything as good like I love this show yeah I just have like weird sitcoms what carrie washington says out loud just like when she's olivia pope but yeah i don't know i think you're on to something with hallmark though i mean those we we've examined the ideological content of hallmark

movies how beautiful you know no magic no magic in the christmas ones oh really i've tried i've tried writing christmas movies that's the thing i heard they don't they don't they don't develop christmas films that have magic in them not anymore i don't think there used to be there used to be and there was a moment i think because they were getting more of a christian conservative audience and they didn't like the blending of any kind of mysticism around the the messiah's birth okay even if it is for a high school couple to fall back in love when homeboy moves back from the city.

That's always, that's always, did you guys, okay, did you guys, I cannot remember the name of it, but Melissa Joan Hart just dropped a Christmas movie and she is playing the number one podcaster in America

and it's a Christmas, and it was, ooh. I gotta watch it. They do not know what podcasts are. Oh no. She did a live podcast at one point and all of her friends and family were standing outside. And someone goes, your podcast's gone viral. No, she goes, my podcast's gone viral. And we're just kind of like, okay.

I have to see this. Yeah, you got to. I'm sorry I don't remember the name of it it's called oh wow what is it what is it what is it called stream it or skip it oh no no i'm sorry no that's no that's the no that's no that's the designer article yeah it's called dear christmas dear as i to your point chelsea literally this description as america's number one podcaster. And you never really understand what her show's about.

It's kind of like about Christmas relationships. I can't figure it out. A holiday rom-com about a podcaster having some will-she-won't-she flirtation with a tow truck driver. Yeah, it's like the whole like she comes back and like meets a working class man. And like, you know, it's just like, I just like it's I mean, it's a template. It's the same. Every movie is pretty much the same. I prefer the murder ones also on Lifetime.

Those are. Yeah. Perfect. Those are those are always fantastic. Fan. Bloody tastic. What was the one that we watched on Netflix that was basically a Hallmark movie just with a slightly better cast. It was like something,

The Runaway, The Lost Husband, or something where she goes to a farm. Oh, you watched that one. Yeah, yeah, that's right. I watched that one. Is that the one with Katie Holmes? No, no. I don't know.

That was another movie that came out recently. But it was in the top 10, and its political content is very much the city and even the suburbs are evil, and living on a farm is the only good way. And the male romantic lead is a apocalypse probably. Yeah, because if you have neighbors that are diverse and different than you, they can point out the bullshit that you're on. Right. That's why I prefer the farm where it's quiet and i can exist without any feedback on my how i'm treating people uh but not to you know stray

too far from ben shapiro's exploits i do want to say that this film they have a film that they acquired in venice okay wow so this is great um right the same right, so if you want to know what's going on with them, oh boy. Because like you said, outside the box in a political climate that is nice to nasty people. The film they're making is called Run, Hide, Fight. And this is from Jeremy Boring. This film is ultimately a movie about courage in the face of evil. This is a gut-wrenching film that does not offer easy talking points which is why liberal hollywood executives have refused to distribute it it's

about a mass shooting okay that's what this film's about okay and this is what uh one of the people who made the film said we're proud to work with the daily wires the exclusive north american distributor of the film uh the daily wires policy of not publishing the names of mass shooters made it an ideal partner that's all you're looking for when distributing a film we should talk uh if this film has a political viewpoint it's that we should not make terrorists famous it's the heroes whose names we should remember he continued we spent years carefully developing this movie in in consultation with law enforcement veterans and shooting victims to immerse people into a realistic portrayal of what it's like to experience one of these tragedies.

So it's NRA propaganda, sounds like. Yeah. Because it's like the heroes are the ones who shoot, right? The heroes are the ones that shoot the bad guy. And that's who should make famous the clap backers. Yeah. The clappers back and show how everybody should be packing at school right yeah it's just you know but again this is

the thing like when you when they come out there and they're saying their ethos is like outside the box thinking that that just means you need you need some weird stuff to reinforce your fucked up worldview of like the cruel unusual world where nobody's safe and self-reliance is the only answer. Not anything else. No politician can save us with, you know, regulating these things. We must,

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maybe there i i don't know if i finished but there might have been a hint of implication that he was santa claus because he was a man obsessed with christmas and his name get get ready, Chris Mass. No. No. Yep. No, no, no. Yeah, nope. Yep. No, no, no, no, no.

It's so rage-inducing. Yeah. Uh-huh. All right, we're going to end the podcast here. Okay, yeah. I'm going to take, I'm like that meme of Pablo Escobar, Narcos meme, where I'm just going to look out, sit on a swing set by myself with Ben just thinking about how on the nose that was. It's a terror.

Mass. Mass. Oh, my name is Christ Moss. That would have been better. Yeah. so Ilaria Baldwin let's just play this clip of her

talking we'll start it off just like some examples of her talking in her Spanish accent okay so I didn't just full disclosure I did the thing where I removed myself from the internet for two weeks that's because you know 50 weeks out of the year,

we're mainlining this shit, like straight through our eyeballs and ears and everything. So I found out like only a couple weeks ago or a couple days ago about what had transpired. So the gist is that Alec Baldwin's wife, right? Yes. Mother of four of his children. Is actually not Spanish, although she's been out here being

like i'm from spain yeah that's right okay and i'm like and her real name is hillary correct that's the whole that's the whole gag she used to go by hillary so there's some aspects where if you wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt you could see where it's like she went by hillary when she lived in boston uh which i don't know it like you have to be pretty flexible to bend over far enough to give her the benefit of the doubt but like there's you know like her explanation for that is yeah when i was in America, I went by Hillary. And when I was with my Spanish family, I went by Hilaria. Oh, and when I was in Ghana, I was Kwame. You know what I mean?

At least I could do that. I'm black, but yeah, I get it. When you go to a place like, because in Ghana, the day of the week you're born is like your nickname. So I was Saturday, I'm Kwame. And I was like, oh shit, okay. But I didn't come back on some whatever the fuck. It's funny when people try and thread the needle, the appropriation needle like this. Right.

It's a needle you can't thread. If the needle says appropriation, don't thread it. Because when you do, you're engaging in it. So I guess this is a super cut, Jackie, you found. Because six times her dubious accent has gone wrong on camera. Yes. How's married life? Married life is really nice.

You know, it feels different. It really feels different. I didn't think it was going to be different, but it feels quite different. What's the thing that surprised you the most? I think just the fact that it feels different. We like to say husband and wife a lot. I become husband now. I say, husband, where are you?

He took me out to Montauk. He said that was as close as he could get to Spain, to my family, and to Rome, because we really like Rome as well. And he got down on his knee. And then I don't remember the rest because I started crying. Oh, and then we went to montauk because he wanted to say that it was like mallorca and to remind me of my family in a vein and i was just so chill the way he did that so actually like really really thoughtful of him i mean that's one thing

is that it doesn't seem like she's trying to hide the fact that she's going back and forth between it's sloppy it is sloppy but listen to this next forth between. This is sloppy. It is sloppy. But listen to this next one. This next one is really good. Oh, this is even. Okay. Mike, they're good. Okay.

We have very few ingredients. We have tomatoes. We have, how do you say it again? Cucumber. Cucumbers. It's not easy. How do you say it in English? Cucumbers.

Come on. Pepino. Pepino. Pepino come on come on we got to know these things if we're gonna scam get the fucking vocab right do we do we keep do we go further do they get better that's fine the the rest of it is more people being like and this is how she actually talks which you kind of heard at the end of uh the story of she and alec getting engaged uh which is just is any of her is she a descendant of any person who is a spaniard so her she's like my my family is lots of jack you're sounding like her now it's yes or no she says yes or no she also uh she does have relatives who live there but she claims she's born in spain and she's not from spain she she was not she was born in boston uh oh my god i don't know i'd i'd knee-jerk get i have a uh like a little bit more hesitancy when it comes to like i don't know because because we work in podcasting and we've see like women's voices get policed so much i like

have like a knee-jerk you know the way that uh a woman guest or you know whatever it is will get like negative feedback on vocal fry and like i speak in nothing but vocal fry but it's like a woman will get called out for that like that i don't know like that you were trying to make sure you were applying a fucked up patriarchal double standard or something to elania baldwin yeah i mean just i'm looking at this straight up as accent work If people listen to this show I like accents I have an ear for accents I like to pick them apart

You know if I was going to speak like somebody from Spain You know speaking like this In the back of my throat more Because I have that experience Talking to people like I don't know Hearing this and that's shitty and that's offensive too But all that to say is Looking at it like this it just it grinds my gears yeah that you are completely jettisoning who you are as a person in exchange for whatever fuckery this is because it's not

that interesting and all it's proven hilaria is that you uh managed to you to scheme or convince Alec Baldwin that you're from Spain. That's not really a feat in my eyes. So maybe, does he care anymore? Like, does he know? What does Alec know? That is my question. That I think is the most interesting question is-

That's between them. How she spoke to her husband, because you notice that the accent was stronger at the beginning of the relationship and then it starts to fade a little bit and she's not really doing it as much anymore um if that was something that he noticed and like what what was going on in his head when that was happening um but yeah it's it's i i agree as somebody you know, I like you would pull this off one thousand times better than her. Yeah, I just like that.

Like if it did slip and Alec Baldwin's is so unaware and not observant at all, like where it was, it's like it was there the whole time, like a super cut of all these moments. Like, bro, you're not going to finish your Sam Adams, bro. All right, pal. And it's like what i'm sorry i said i said amor your cerveza es rea is half finished please party on harder like i don't know i don't know bless bless bless the attempted scam of yeah i mean attempt keeps us entertained yeah i just like the audacity though it's just truly man yeah i guess was it her thing i'm just i don't know if this is a thing of how someone who is so unhappy with just being you know a white american person like yes that you're going like fuck what's the most adjacent thing i could be believably i'll dye my hair black or darker

than it is and i'm like do like a katherine zeta jones like penelope cruz thing and i don't know i mean i part of me like you know i feel for that because i there's like people you go to school with who like you're like oh you changed your name you did the whole thing like you you you became this whole other person and i get that on one level you know like we all we are all evolving as people but not to the point of saying like you know it's be one thing like you're straight laced and now you're into like punk rock or whatever versus like i'm white hilarious i'm white hillary from boston and now i am hilaria because i went to spain once yes and you there there are definitely people i knew who went to uh went abroad for a year or a semester and came back with new personalities and uh you know right well lindsey lohan you guys like

like that is some that is some deep shit remember that ig live when she was trying to save that family yes people of america what do you want like okay lindsey we want you to leave us alone and like that goes to say like what is up with like like her personal life like you're saying like there's got to be other and i don't mean lindsey lohan going back to eladia or whatever um you know like there's got to be other stuff like that's a symptom of a bigger problem so i just wonder like what other like what other how this affects other parts of her or what you know what breeds this impetus right to do this i just like i just thought it was fun you know kind of got carried away i don't know you never just lose yourself in an accent and you know assumed identity just do it for six years.

And then do it for the entirety of your adult life. Never do that and scam people out of their organs and stuff. No. Right. I don't know. Just got carried away. No, nobody does that. Oh, come on.

There's definitely some subterfuge going on with regards to, like, she claims that she moved to America when she was 19 to go to NYU. And, like, she grew up. And people are like dude i went to high school with her her name was hillary she was just a girl from you know massachusetts from cambridge uh yeah wow i don't know i'm shout out to her i always these stories are just so funny to me because i you know because when it all when all falls down, you're just left with this, like, just going through, you're like, and why did you think this was working? Yeah.

We're doing a next season. I think we're going to do personality hoaxes. So each episode is going to be somebody who like, and how that's like how single people and stories can change the entire culture with bullshit. You know, I mean, that was the satanic panic was, you know, fueled by like Michelle Remembers and these fake memoirs that then affected everything. I mean, so I'm really excited about that, but this is like a mild version of somebody creating. I mean, there are some crazy stories

that go like way back in time too. You know what would have been easier? If she just said she was Eladia Baldwin, but she's like, nah, I grew up here. Yeah. I still, you know, I feel Spain in my heart. That's why I just, I vibe like this. if she just said she was elaria baldwin but she's like no i grew up here yeah i still i still you know i feel spain in my heart that's why i just i vibe like this and nobody would have asked anything yeah exactly no that's the truth would have made her free but she like that that's how you can tell

there's more there like you were saying chelsea that there's like a core uh of you know dysfunction of something it's an issue it's a rejection of your family because at that point you're no longer the person that your parents named you to be so therefore it's a rejection of that. Maybe this is a whole line of study. A whole discipline

can be born out of Ilaria Baldwin. We've talked about Ariana Grande having grown up as Ariana Grandi. That was how discipline can be born out of eladia baldwin i mean we've talked about ariana grande having grown up as ariana grandy like that that was how her last name was pronounced yeah at least that's like a italian yeah yeah and she's just letting other people fill in the dots with her darker complexion to be like i don't know maybe i'm gonna say anything i don't know and i'm just gonna tight rope walk it up here yeah yeah, yeah. People are also... So Bean Dad is more recent.

This is when I started wondering if we're... Because this dude is a total prick. He refers to himself positively as Apocalypse Dad. That's a dope thing. He's like, then I went into fool the road mode. But none of the stuff that he's doing is cool or loving yeah it's not it's not like the whole story of the road is this dude is sacrificing everything to keep this child alive and this dude is just arbitrarily made not feeding his daughter for six hours uh

for a twitter thread for a Twitter thread to, you know, or to teach her some lesson about self-reliance, but it was just, and then he thought it was worth being like, and this is dope. This is how parent parenting should work. Okay.

I, another thing when you were writing these things down, I was like, Oh fuck bro. I'm being out the loop. I don't know who the fuck bean dad is. Yeah. I had yeah i had to look it up too it's all because and i'm curious with you chelsea you said you grew up with a prepper dad like this was born out of he said his daughter wanted baked beans and didn't know how to use a can opener so i as he says he

found a teaching moment to have his hungry nine-year-old daughter struggle with a can opener for hours in order to teach some lesson about how to fucking be more self-reliant. And then everyone's like, yo, this is a terrible look for you. It's a funny bit in a script that's a throwaway thing. But to center your identity as a father around this is like a it's a funny bit in a script that's a throwaway thing but to make to center your identity as a father around this is a misstep yeah well and also a big question i have is she wants baked beans right that was that was my other question that just i like created an image in my mind of his pantry just being like that baked beans is like one of the last canned goods that you have in your pantry when you're just like you know i'm not gonna lie i that baked beans is like one of the last canned goods that you have in your pantry

when you're just like you know I'm not gonna lie I buy baked beans on a regular yeah no I like baked beans a lot I love a baked bean but there's always a can of baked beans there's always a can of baked beans somewhere like every household if you look long enough has an old can of baked beans

it's that and then mustard in the refrigerator old mustard in the refrigerator like the last two things that are like a crusty bunch of mustard on the top of it yeah so the guy the dude deleted his twitter too yeah he deleted his twitter because he had some wild problematic shit in the past where he like 2011, I... Sure. Like, 2011, he was using the R word and gay as a derogatory term and just not... What a shock.

Yeah. The guy who made his... The Hungry Can Opener teacher did that? He's homophobic? Yeah. What is the... I mean, also, like, when you're hungry, have you dealt with hungry

children yeah that's the i don't i'm not even a parent i've but i've dealt with hungry nieces nephews kids kids my friends kids and i'm like yo you don't want anything to do with a child getting hung because shit all bets are off when you reach that point i'm like oh shit they're frying out on lack of calories yeah uh. That you somehow are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, struggle, motherfucker. And then I will be the new protagonist in a Cormac McCarthy book I'm writing in my fucking mind. Some narcissist behavior, I feel like. Did you get any lessons like that, Chelsea?

What was the closest? What's a message your prepper father at least was like, I have anything, just know this. Well, it was more on the spiritual side like uh yeah like it was a 2012 thing so 2012 was the apocalypse okay yeah versus like a biblical apocalypse right it was like the new age version so it was more like you know getting prepared spiritually because it was gonna be you know the age of aquarius we're all gonna pass into the new era of love but But first there's going to be like all the volcanoes on earth are going to explode at the same time and, you know, floods and all that shit. So, I mean, I learned

how to like, you know, we'd watch like those investigation discovery shows that are really, or not invest, you know, whatever discovery channel where they teach you how to like, yeah, like purify water or whatever. And, um, I don't know. I mean, it was not that, but it was definitely not like, uh, it was, I don't know. It was definitely like a, an apocalyptic, you gotta get ready, you know, but he wasn't going to make me not eat, you know what I mean? But I was also older, you know, this was 2012 is more recent than, you know what i mean but i was also older you know this was 2012 is more recent than you i was like a late teen it was always there you know it was always like here's a bunch of water here's a bunch of canned food we're ready for x y and z you know it was

same thing with reagan and nuclear war you know nuclear i'm working on i'm working on it nuclear i get a lot of complaints that's like one of my number one it's my favorite simpsons line dude what was it well because he says he's he's like homer saying nuclear and someone's saying nuclear and he's like nuclear that's me i was like it's not my fault yeah yeah uh and finally just to let people know i will only be drinking dunkin coffee from now on because they have introduced i mean starbucks kind of did this with their blonde roast, but Dunkin' is like straight up making it the point that this has extra caffeine. Extra charged coffee, they call it. And so I only bring it because I don't. We always talk about whenever there's new caffeine and you are the caffeine goat where no amount of caffeine in your stomach will affect you like a goat.

We're in this one. Okay. We're talking 20% more caffeine for you as someone who's got his eye on caffeine, Tomb Raider, whatever that website is. Caffeine observer. Informer. Yeah. Which is just as ridiculous. I'm like, no, Miles.

Caffeine informer. Caffeine Tomb Raider. Caffeine, no, Miles, Caffeine Informer. Caffeine Tumorator, Caffeine Informer. Sir. Caffeine Tumorator. This Caffeine Informer, I pulled up what their caffeine MGs are as they stand. What are we talking about when we're adding another 20% on this? So, I mean, you go on a small, you go from 150 milligrams to 180. That's the extra charged small.

On extra large, though, extra large, extra charged, which is 24 fluid ounces. Normal coffee is 360 milligrams. Too much caffeine for anyone sitting. Extra charged is 431 milligrams. That's. What are you likening that to? Because you just said 360 at 24 ounces is way too much. Yes.

You drink that whole. Let's say what happens to Jack O'Brien. He smangs a 24 ounce 360 milligram. I get nervous. I feel bad about myself. it just like turns on itself you know it's like too much that's where you cross the rubicon yeah uh but but i don't know i mean some people are i just feel like when you're at that level of like caffeine dependency it's it starts to turn on itself a little bit or at least it's affecting how you behave the rest of

the day uh at least in my in my experience but other people you know other people have bodies that are just like unbreakable they can just yeah i want to i want to sip that because i it's weird i'm caffeine sensitive to a point but there are definitely times when I can just out of nowhere be like, oh, I'm having a panic attack from caffeine. Yeah. No, I'm going to do it on an episode, on an upcoming episode. I'm going to take the extra large to the dome.

You just hear this tapping. You're like, what is that? Oh, it's Jack's sweat dripping under the mic. It shorts out and that's the last you hear of me. Oh, shit. All right. Chelsea, it has been so fun

having you, as always, on the podcast. Where can people find you and follow you? You can find us, our show's American Hysteria, and it's on probably all podcast apps within reason. And you can also find us our show's American hysteria and it's on probably all podcast apps, uh, within reason.

And, you can also find us on Twitter at a mayor hysteria and on Instagram at American hysteria podcast. And thank you both Jack and miles. This has been so fun. I love coming on your show. It's always so fun. Yeah.

Uh, and not our show. It's always so fun having you. It's always so fun. Thank you. Every other time. It is. That's fair um where and is

there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying oh yeah i have one tweet here from uh december 31st from uh solomon georgio and it just says if you didn't accomplish anything in 2020 it's okay because nobody cares it's kind of nice it's like a good mantra really nobody gives a fuck uh miles where can people find you and what's tweet you've been enjoying uh you can find me twitter instagram at miles of gray and yeah oh also other podcasts for 20 day fiance talking 90 day fiance it's been a while since i've had to run through all this at the end of an episode so bear with me. Okay, tweet that I like from my co-host on

420 Day Fiance, Sophia Alexander at the Sophia S-O-F-I-Y-A tweets, Bean Dad, but it's me teaching dudes to find the clit. Just laying there for six hours. That's good. That's a good one. Then you're the real bean daddy. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.

A tweet I've been enjoying. Emma Manzini tweeted, a shark could swim faster than me, but I could probably run faster than a shark. So in a triathlon, it would all come down to who is the better cyclist. That's so nice. Oh, shit. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website,

dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on miles what are we riding into this new year upon oh man uh so on january or december 31st we found out that mf doom passed away back in october uh i'm i think anybody who you know likes hip-hop has intersected with his work at some point or another. I fucking love MF Dome. All the shit that was coming, when he was really putting shit out like Mad Villainy and the King Gitarist, all this stuff.

This was coming out when I was in high school, going into college. That's a very formative period for your for your music listening so hearing that like really kind of turned me on to getting off with like bling bling rap which i was very much into going into the 20 21st century for all the youngins out there um and like going in and just like you know getting into this really lyrical hip-hop he was one of the just greatest rhyme speakers sayers i fucking love all of his work um so this is a track with him and another person who is dear to my heart jay dilla uh it's called gazillion ear uh and it's from the 2009 album uh born like this but yeah this is just a dude get into mf doom it's one of those people where you'll

probably if you just heard about it it's because even artists who you liked who you didn't necessarily associate with hip-hop were like right man mf doom that's fucking heavy um and and then pretty much anyone who like is a rapper paid their respects because yeah you couldn't be into this and not fuck with metal fingers so yeah shout out to you rest in peace and uh yeah get into the music get it and also you know what tell somebody you love them today you never know because you never know just tell somebody really it seems weird to do but just let people know let them know that's a good thing to do uh all right well the daily zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio for more podcasts

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