The Daily Zeitgeist - Ben Affleck’s Upsetting Tattoo, Sean Penn Sucks 3.22.18

Episode Date: March 23, 2018

In episode 110, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Ryan Singer to discuss the google trends, deep state that seems to be the cause of all problems in the world, Mark Zuckerberg's crap apology, Sean Penn's new dystopian novel, & more! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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All right, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian, Mr. Ryan Singer. Hey, how you doing? A.K.A. Salvador Dali, because I paint pictures with my words and knock you out with my verbs. Oh, nice. I came up with that when I was 14, and I've loved it ever since. You were an emcee at 14? Yeah, I was emceeing in Dayton, Ohio. Oh, yeah.

At an all-Catholic school. Yeah. Just wishing to escape. Dayton is a very musical town. Yeah, it actually is. So much funk music has originated out of Dayton. Yeah, Dayton's got a great music scene. What Catholic school in Dayton? I went to St. Albert the Great, great school,

and then I went to Alter High School. Alter, yeah. That's where I would have gone had I stayed in Dayton. I lived in Centerville. Oh, yeah. Okay. A long time, five years. You probably would have heard tales about me.

The great MC. So you probably heard of me then. Actually, there was a – I guess it's kind of timely. There's a walkout policy at my high school because of me. Oh, really? Because I organized a walkout when I was in high school. Oh, wow. My junior year.

Over what? A couple of friends of mine got arrested for having paraphernalia in their car. But it was off school property. So my grounds for protests were illegal search and seizure. Damn. And so I organized a walkout and maybe only 25 kids joined me. Yeah, yeah. And ever since then, they've had a no walkout policy at

the school okay well like i didn't know we were with such a leader activist not nothing is like you know dramatic or as needed as you know what these kids nowadays are doing right yeah right but they're like yo they took my homies bong yeah but it's 93 yeah it was a different time in 93. That took my home as well. 100%. Well, my family was run out of that town. Really? On a rail. Yeah. My dad was a basketball coach for University of Dayton, and they were really bad the last couple of years. And we got the whole –

Wait. Your dad is Jim O'Brien? Yeah, yeah. Are you kidding me? No, I'm not kidding. My dad would be – He's like, you motherfucker. My dad would be pooping his pants right now that I'm hanging out with the son of Coach O'Brien.

Yeah, man. Oh, my God. But we got the for sale signs in the front yard and everything. But your dad did all right. Your dad did all right after you guys got run out of town. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Boston Celtics, NBA. Are you serious?

Yeah. Yeah. I love how you remember. You're like, man, I remember egging your fucking house. Well, I remember, well, when you grow up in Dayton, like, UD basketball is bonkers. It's like, you know, they've been selling out their arena for, I don't know, decades. Right, right. And they've always had, like, teams that are, like, good enough to make the NCAA tournament,

but never good enough to, like, really win it all. Right, right. But they still believe. Yeah, right. Like that they're the Cinderella. It's Cinderella town. Oh, man, that's crazy. Yeah.

I had some of my best years in Dayton, man. Was it crazy? Like you were legit just being harassed or it's just kind of shit like that that sucks? Yeah, I mean, that didn't like define our time there. Right, right, right. It was just ugly at the end because he was going to be on the front page of the sports page,

and people were calling for him to get fired. And as a 12-year-old, that's way too attached. You're like, why are they being mean to my dad? Yeah, exactly. He's doing the best he can. I was super – like I lived and died with every one of the wins, so I took it pretty hard. And people in Dayton don't want to accept the fact that Guess what? Not a lot of 18-year-old kids

Who are the best at what they do Want to live in Dayton And go to a Catholic college It's like They have this delusion that they think We should be getting the best players Attracting the best They tried to, although

We could have got that LeBron James guy Yeah, we should move on to non-Dayton basketball yeah yeah because uh that that is not the subject of this podcast but we'll talk off mic the dayton state yeah come for you the dayton state exactly uh ryan what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are oh man this is super embarrassing this happened to me a few months ago. I had to Google – How to breathe. I forgot the word rectangle. Wow.

I was like – I really forgot what the word rectangle is, and I had to Google – it's embarrassing. I had to Google two sides equal in length longer than other two. Holy shit. That's amazing. I love that. How did that come about? A longy square? That's what I would have – Yeah, that's what I love that how did that come about what when you're like a longy square you're just making up new fucking adjectives it's longy i remember at the time it's like it's like

when a square is quarter horsed like i was right right but um the uh it's more embarrassing why i thought why i needed to recall the word it was – I had been researching astrology for like years, right? And I thought I had – this is crazy. I thought I had channeled source, right? It was like 3 in the morning and I was like geometry astrology. No one has done a geometry astrology system. I mean they probably have by the way. But – and so I'm like, oh, it will be great.

Everybody will know what shape they are and how they fit into the world around them. You know what I mean? Like some people will be a circle. Some people will be a square. Some people will be a – A rhombus. I can see that being very – And then I couldn't remember.

That's when I was like – and some people would be a – What is that one thing? It's like a little Caesar's pizza box. And I couldn't remember. A little Caesar's pizza box. Yeah, you're really a prophet, bro. You can't remember the word rectangle like Jesus couldn't remember the word forgiveness

the thing that's key to the message they're like what do you see in me master Ryan oh you my child are a hold on what are those two sides are definitely longer than the other. It's like a headshot, but it fell over.

They're like, all right, I think I'm going to leave your van now. It's a church? It is a church. I don't pay taxes because it's a church. It's a mobile church. What is something you think is underrated? Eggnog. Underrated?

Wow. I know these are controversial opinions. It was such an appropriate time on this middle end of march yeah right there's always see this is the problem the hot this is a result of the underratedness right of eggnog thinking that it's only a holiday end of the year type drink right it is one of the most delicious drinks and now granted you cannot be drinking eggnog all the time because it's not good for you. It is remarkably bad for you.

And I make my own eggnog at home. Oh, okay. I've taken to it. It tastes like a melted sugar cookie. Yeah. It's so good. One of the most under, and you can add any booze to it if you want. I make it alcohol free and let the person decide.

Let the kids decide. Peppermint vodka is very good. Some people do bourbon. Some people do rum. Some people do bourbon. Some people do rum. Some people do brandy. Yeah, I've always had it with brandy or cognac and things like that. I've never had it with peppermint vodka. Courvoisier is very good in eggnog.

I like Jameson as well. Wait, so how did you – what happened when you became a diehard eggnogist? Well, I just loved it as a kid probably because there's so much sugar in it. Yeah. It's like drinking melted ice cream. Yeah. I think I've somehow mentioned this on the show before, but when you look at Starbucks holiday lattes, the pumpkin spice and all the other ones, gingerbread, all those ones

that are sweet and have a different flavor have 300 more calories than a normal latte. And then the eggnog has like 600 more. It's just like eggnog is like next level. It's like a milkshake and then they put egg yolks in it. Yeah. It's just like next level bed for you. It is next level. The bodybuilder's treat.

I do think like if we're going to be indulgent, like you might as well go full out, like hardcore indulgent. like you might as well go full out like hardcore indulgent i had one of my buddies uh went home over christmas break in college and came back and he had like a third chin like just like a neck layer of fat and he had been like a very thin guy right and he was like i just wanted to see how much weight i could gain on eggnog and apparently that shit works is he okay yeah yeah yeah he's i just like that he works for new balance now so he's like yeah i wanted to see how much i could gain off of egg that's actually not the crazy i've heard other tales of these eggnog weight gain challenges yeah yeah and uh it's it's one of the probably best things to you know gain a lot of weight you know what's the

worst though is cheap shitty eggnog at the store. Like, there's levels to store-bought eggnog. Like, they're kind of sort of generic version of eggnog. I'm not really feeling it. If I see something remotely artisanal,

I'm going for it. Yeah. Because I know it's... There's pumpkin eggnog. There's all kinds of eggnog. There's soy. There's everything. But I mean,

straight classic eggnog. Yeah. Give me the classic. Just put half and half in a blender with three eggs and some nutmeg. Boom.

And then like, you know those big bricks of sugar that you get out of it. Just all of that. Yeah, just all of it. My problem started because there was a grocery store in my hometown as a kid that I discovered sold it year round. Oh, wow. That was it. It was like a privately owned little grocery store in the neighborhood.

And this place called Dorothy Lane Market. I'll give them a shout out. They sold it year round. Oh, wow. I lost my mind. Yeah. And I was the one that they probably stocked it for. That's probably why you couldn't remember what the name of a rectangle was.

Yeah. Too much nog in there. In the nog. What's something you think is overrated, Brian? Chocolate. Wow. Chocolate is overrated. Okay.

Why? Do you like chocolate first? I have two things written down here. I have chocolate and then also individuality. Individuality. Individuality. I do think individuality is overrated. But chocolate, I think, is a lie told by Big Chocolate.

Big Chocolate has sold us this lie. And I don't know. I just never liked chocolate. Maybe my mom ate too much of it when she was pregnant with me or something. But I've just never liked it unless peanut butter was involved. You've just never liked chocolate. Really? Never liked it. You like chocolate and peanut butter, though.

Yeah, if peanut butter. Because you're the same person. Have you ever had a Lindt truffle? I don't know. I don't think I have. Okay. Well, there is a caveat. I mean, I'm a hypocrite in everything I say or do, so I can admit this.

I do love hot chocolate. Right. Whoa. And I love hot chocolate because it doesn't taste like chocolate, really. Yeah, it's got like a butteriness to it. It doesn't have like the – Yeah, definitely more milk on the milkier side. But like chocolate ice cream, oh, gag me with a spoon as the kids would say 20 years ago.

As the kids always say. 20 years ago. Gag me with a spoon. I actually agree with chocolate ice cream I'm not crazy about. Chocolate cake. Chocolate cake I can get behind. Chocolate, chocolate. i fucking you know you dog whistling now what chocolate ice cream to actual dogs who can't have chocolate

oh i love chocolate um and then quickly individuality just in five words or less uh what's wrong with individuality it It keeps us from realizing we are all one. Sorry, man. And we are all one. Ah, we are all one. Great. We are all on E. We are all one.

We are all on E. Hey, that works too. And then what is a myth? What's something that most people think is true that you know to be false? Well, I've also written down a couple of examples because I don't know if one of them classifies as a myth. But I will say this. I don't know how popular of a myth is that vulnerability creates connection. I was listening – I was on a Delta flight, if I can say that, and I was listening to

a TED Talk by Brene Brown. It's a great TED Talk. You actually can't say TED Talk. Oh, OK. Sorry. And I was listening – We call it Edward Talk. Edward Talk.

Theodore Talk. And so I listened to like the second half of it and it was like very moving. So I like just – and it loops on their radio, on their little armrest radio. So I'm just listening to it again and then like it's so moving and powerful that I start crying on this flight. And I'm on a window seat because I love the window. And I look next to me. There's a woman sitting next to me and i and i'm like bawling and she obviously knows i'm crying right and uh and i look to her and i say vulnerability you know

what i mean and then she did not connect with me and she got the fuck out of it she started hitting that agenda button do you have anyone who would switch with me? Yeah, because obviously I didn't in the moment realize that she was not listening to the TED Talk. Right, right. So I'm just some guy who looks like me crying, looking at her going crazy. Vulnerability, you know what I mean? You know what? Yes, I do. Please, now here, take these peanuts and leave me alone.

40,000 pounds. Up in the air, and I've never felt more vulnerable. Gives you her purse and walks away. Yes, here, here, here. Backs away. I never said I wasn't vulnerable. That's not what I'm saying. So that's my experience with that one.

Also, the wine bottle with the shoe that you can open if you don't have a corkscrew, that's BS. The wine bottle with the shoe. Yo, I tried that once when I was working a campaign in, like, I forget where the fuck I was. I was living in a hotel and I got a bottle of wine and I couldn't get it. Oh, I know.

Wine key. And I tried that version. Fucking busted the wine bottle. Like I fucked it up. But I saw a video of someone doing it. It's bogus. I think because you shake the foundation of whatever you're like, like if you're in a hotel or something, everyone's like, what is security came?

And like they, they came into a guy with a broken wine bottle. Wow. Didn't have a wine crew. And also Ch all over him. And I'm like, hey. Wow. Didn't have a wine crew. And also Chupacabra. I don't believe in Chupacabra. Oh, you don't? Chupacabra is younger than Miley Cyrus. Yeah, that's true.

The myth itself. That is true. Oh, really? Of all the cryptids that – and I'm into that stuff. Ryan is our resident cryptozoologist. But Chupacabra I'm not on board with. The Chupacabra is younger than Miley Cyrus? It's based on some local news misunderstandings and shit.

Oh, man. Yeah, it's from the 90s. But I'll tell you what, it's got a good PR team. It's got a good PR team. Yeah. You said you were? I was sucking all those goats for nothing. Sucking Obama.

The blood of goats, to be specific. Oh, is that what it is? See? See? I'm getting a bunch of bunk information. I just saw you sucking a goat. all those goats for nothing yeah sucking the blood of goats to be specific oh is that what it is see see i'm getting a bunch of bunk information i just tried to see you're just blowing i looked foolish for about 17 years then and that will end now thank you ryan all right let's get into uh what is trending on our global shared consciousness right now. For that, we look to Google Trends. And the number two trending thing right now in the world, we can't talk about the number one trending thing

because it is Trump Free Thursdays. Ooh, yeah. Trump Free Thursdays. Yeah. Shout out to Shannon Coffey with that drop. So number two most trending thing is the world's largest collection of ocean garbage.

Garbage Island is now twice the size of Texas. This is the Pacific Gyre? Yeah. The Pacific Garbage sort of. I like how they call it the large collection of ocean. It almost makes it glamorous. Yeah.

It's a fucking – just a hideous – it's the worst of humanity in the Pacific Ocean. Right. And it's like – Twice the size of Texas. Yeah. You were saying like do you have any idea how long it takes to drive across Texas? And you get to drive like 75 miles an hour on the freeway. Yeah. I had to do it a bunch of times just from being on the road.

And it is – it's awful. Imagine doing that twice. That is so much land. It's interesting that the garbage in the ocean like kind of collects together and turns into a big island. But the garbage in space like has a tendency to like shatter because it like runs into each other and it's moving faster than the speed of a bullet. So it's just tons of tiny pieces of garbage out in space, just a layer. I mean, I guess we don't have a plan to get rid of it either. Nope.

Nah. Just make it bigger. Well, no, not the space garbage. There is a multimillion-dollar fund being put together to clean up the garbage patch that was started by, I think a teenager in like one of the Nordic countries was just like, man, that fucking sucks. And started like collecting funding. And I think he's up at up to $35 million.

And they're like putting, putting a group together to clean up this giant, horrible, uh, garbage patch. And so they went out and kind of studied it, and it turns out it's 45% commercial fishing nets. Is there nets?

That have just been discarded. Get the fuck out of here. So apparently that's a thing that happens a lot with commercial fishing boats is they just, like, cut net. They're just like, shit, we got to. Fuck it. Yeah. I wonder if there's wildlife living on this.

Probably. Yeah, I'd imagine. there's wildlife living on this. Probably. Yeah. I'm telling you. I'd imagine. It's like its own ecosystem. I'm glad the plan isn't like, let's just burn it. Right, right, right. You could imagine that being humans. Fucking stab it.

Just burn it, man. I love burning stuff. Just drop a bomb on it. The Planet Earth 2 has a whole episode that's about cities and animals learning to live around human cities. That's pretty interesting. Worth checking out. Do you think they're doing that with this garbage island?

Yeah, they're fucking resourceful. My hope is that in the Olympics in 2020, the garbage island will have a team, Olympic team, that they can send out there to compete. One of the dopest things. Okay. I was going to float on it. I'm thinking what their flag would be. Just like a rapper. It's a net. It's just a net. It's a net on over here. I'm thinking what the flag would be just like a rapper.

Oh, right. It's a net. It's just a net on a stick. Right. Who would be the captain of the garbage team? I wish it would be Captain Ron. But Russell, Kurt Russell would reprise his role. It doesn't really make sense.

But yeah, I like that. He's carrying the net. He's walking him out. Or who's the Muppet in the trash can? Oh, Oscar the Grouch. Oscar the Grouch. Oscar the Grouch. Well, he's like the prime minister of Trash Island.

I don't know if he was like... I don't know what his event would be, yeah. Just fucking bothering people who walk by. Yeah. Although he walks now. He like fucking... Wait, he's out of the can? Yeah, he got out of the can like on a recent episode of

sesame street and like walked down the street and they just like showed his legs i was like no were they all atrophied they're like bed sores and shit just like yeah he's he's seeking medical care because the wounds are festered he needs the legs to be amputated he's like please i've been living in a garbage can. Yeah. Oscar's out. I refuse to look at that. You saw my face when you said that. I was genuinely in shock when I heard that I would see Oscar out of the can. No.

Yeah, yeah. No, yeah. Don't need it. Muppets have legs now. When we were kids, they just didn't show them from belly button down. And also realistic human genitalia. Oh, wow. Yeah.

On the Muppets. All right. No, they don't have that anymore i was like oh because i thought i was like are you sure you weren't watching don't hug me i'm scared have you seen that no it's on youtube it's like this adult muppet stuff and it's so trippy it's it's really wild um all right also trending owen wilson is trending because he caused the evacuation of a Miami hotel. Yeah, because he smoked a cigarette inside and it triggered the fucking smoke alarms. That's what it takes these days, man. I mean, who smokes a cigarette indoor anywhere anymore? It's scummy.

I think only a celebrity would do like, fuck it. I'm going to smoke a cigarette in here. I've got the money to pay for the fee. Yeah, because also, yeah, it set off the alarm. They had to evacuate the hotel. Yeah. And then apparently it was caught on camera of like, whatever his date he was with. They're, like, dancing in the hall.

It was like the alarm goes off. They're just, like, wasted, clearly. Wow. Wow. I didn't know I could do that. It's crazy that, yeah, that that's, like, what being a badass celebrity is now. Sinatra used to be able to, like like murder a person in a hotel room, like loudly.

And people would just be like, ah, Frank, Frank, Frank. And now you got a bunch of pissed off hotel. Right. Like fucking Owen Wilson smoked a cigarette in his bathroom.

Yeah. But I think it's probably progress that, that we're, we're, we're sure. Of course. Clearly murdering someone is the worst. Yeah. Ben Affleck's back tattoo. We have to talk about it we've been uh ignoring it for a long time but it's it's time

to talk about it because we saw a picture of it i saw a picture of it earlier this week um i've not slept since it's i don't know what to make of this tattoo because it's just wild. It's so aggressive. That phoenix is – I got to tell you, I love phoenixes. Me too. Phenai. Phenai. Whatever we're going to get.

I love dragon-like creatures. Yeah. I can't say – I do wonder when he got it. Like what his state was? Yeah. Where was he when he got – was it pre-Batman? Was it like – because is that when he got it like what what a state was yeah where was he when he got was it pre-batman was it like because you know is that when he had the time to this is an elaborate probably took a long time to get done right yeah like this this is a three-day tattoo like it's one of those ones

that like you have to go back and get touched up and shit well what's crazy is like two years ago apparently like there was a picture of him shirtless where it like they showed the tattoo and he told mario lopez it was fake and mario lopez was like yeah that makes sense dude yeah it's like all right oh you got fake tattoo too sometimes i use those sleeves that you can buy that you just put on just wear it dude it's true oh yeah this shitty fucking lame tattoo right oh yeah that's fake they don't let me have it at Entertainment Tonight. Or wait, is he on one of those? Or extra? Extra.

Extra. Extra. Sorry. He also has some kind of deal with Satan because he doesn't age. Yeah. Just completely dead behind the eyes. You know, he had to get it. Since it is a phoenix, he had to have gotten it.

In Phoenix. In Phoenix. After his career revived. Yeah, right, right. So it was like a symbol. I think probably once he got, what really, what would you say was the benchmark that brought back his career? I think the town was like where it was like, yeah. To me, he's always just kind of hovered in the same space of like, whatever, Ben Affleck.

Ben Affleck was like a laughingstock. It was like, hey, I wonder if Matt Damon returns his phone calls. And then he came back as a director and we were like, all right. He has some talent and then now he's – So the town was his cop land. I think the town – Like Stallone's cop land and Travolta's Pulp Fiction. So the town, you think.

Yeah. I think this tattoo is probably right after Argo. Right after he won the Oscar? Yeah. Yeah. That's probably true. I'm back, baby. I'm going to show everybody I'm true. I'm back, baby.

I'm going to show everybody I'm back. I'm back, tattoo. Do you think he had the goth kid's notebook that he took that from with him? He was just like, yeah. Or did he describe it from the- It feels generic. I don't know. It looks like- It feels like a goth kid's notebook as interpreted by the people who did the Trapper Keeper art

for those glittery- It's very clean cut, but also- goth kids notebook as interpreted by the people who did the trapper keeper art for like those like glittery like you know it's like very clean cut you take shots the trapper keeper designers okay no i i think they're geniuses all right let's take a quick break we'll be right back when you think of mexican culture you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance.

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most of the world's problems yeah uh you know from there was a like i think what last year there was a congressman former congressman in texas uh who was basically caught like funneling money into a charity of his own creation uh and was facing criminal charges for that but the deep state uh framed him you know i think most recently we found out that uh the deep state was also responsible for ben carson's,000 dining room set. Wait, really? Yeah, yeah, it was. I didn't know about that. It was.

I knew they were busy taking whoever our president currently is down. No, no, no. You're, bro. They've got eyes everywhere. Yeah, you think it's, right, my man. They got their hands in everything. So the reason I bring this up is because recently there was a poll that came out that said about 47% of Americans, they believe that the deep state probably exists.

27 percent said that the deep state definitely exists. Now, I understand like conceptually that there are forces at work that we can't quite articulate through what we see in the mainstream news or whatever. And like there are powerful lobbying groups and other things that at work that can you know shift policy and things like that yeah like there are bureaucrats who aren't subject to election who you know have a lot of influence right and even yeah some of them are in intelligence and probably real shady motherfuckers ryan weren't you saying that like there's a big chunk of the annual budgets that just like goes into a black hole and disappears it just disappears and like congress and everybody's like well we just don't know where it goes. But it goes into all these like secret defense programs and things like that.

So I mean my problem with this whole deep state thing being thrown around like they used to like, oh, thanks, Obama, like they used to do back then. It's the new thanks a lot of fake news. It's like they're – it's diminishing like the realness of something. Right, exactly. So cut to this congresswoman, Claudia Tenney, who represents a district in upstate New York. She was recently – she called into a radio show and just listened to her basically blaming the deep state for Ben Carson's problems. Somebody in the deep state, it was not one of his people apparently, ordered a table, like a conference room table or whatever it was for a room and that's what the cost was when bed carson tried to he said you know how hard it is to turn

it back because of the um the way that the procurement happened she sounds like she took all the sleeping pills right before uh starting that i mean mean, she – Claudia Tenney has hot takes to say the least. I mean, she was like – She claimed a – You know how hard it is to turn it back? You mean return something that you bought online? That's like the whole point of online commerce. Yeah, but Ben said that –

Apparently. Apparently you can't – I don't know now. I'm sorry, man. Did you just fall asleep? No just fall asleep no no the deep state is a deep state uh but yeah so what's funny is like ben carson though this week he testified and was talking about it he threw his fucking wife under the bus he's like yeah my wife decided uh that we needed it and uh you know i just don't it was wild to also just see him pass the buck although there are fucking emails like through Freedom of Information Act request. They were able to get like emails and the correspondence is clear.

Him and his wife were looking at shit like, I don't get this one. So when like you're saying the deep state is basically for some people become like the default way to it's just like a really shitty debate tool is just to be like, nah, it's deep state. Fuck it. That's it. tool is just to be like nah it's deep state fuck it it's like that's it it's just the deep state like without explaining like this fits a pattern especially with a lot of cabinet members that trump has appointed having like a really bad habit of fucking balling out on the taxpayers dime right so deep state though deep deep state yeah i think you're right though that it will become the go-to like hipster uh joke the way that thanks a lot, Obama,

or like calling someone a commie like before that. Right. A joking thing. But it is a little concerning, right? Because when you look at those statistics and clearly like we are a lot of this misinformation shit and I think just generally the way because our government runs so inefficiently, people are left to try and explain for themselves what the fuck is going on or explain their own situation. And I think for some people, the deep state has become like a legitimate way that they're explaining like why the things they want to happen aren't happening.

I think you can just – I mean we can call it what it is for a lot of these people who are – and the 27 percent who are convinced that the deep state is real. Let's just say what it is. They think it's a synonym for Illuminati, New World Order, things like that, the powerful elite that control everything. And that's not to say that the richest people in the world do have a vested interest in working with each other. 100 percent, yeah. Of course. And so when you have people throwing around the deep state for like dinnerware or a conference table or like – what it really does is it deflects and it really diminishes the realness of like the problem that may be with this actual deep state if in fact it is as powerful as some people think. now a lot of conservatives are using it as the career like like federal you know law enforcement

people who are just uh shining a light on someone's business right because we're not supposed to say somebody's name but yeah like that i mean yeah it's just frustrating because the people who are really angry about the deep state are the same people who's you know the things they're fighting for are basically dictated by the coke brothers like 10 years ago to like their political. Yeah. Well, because – but like they say the distribution is pretty equal among Democrats and Republicans. Yeah. So I'm sure it's just like – man, like my grandparents were really thinking about

– they were talking about the Illuminati years ago because they were like, you know, Beyonce and Jay-Z are in the Illuminati. My grandparents said that shit to me and I was like – and I said, what do you mean by that? And they're like, well, they made a deal with Satan. And I was like, grandma, god damn. What is it? Kali is a big one.

Right. Like the female goddess. I don't know. To me, it's all pretty – it's pretty fascinating stuff. But like there's – I mean there's just so many wormholes that open up and rabbit holes that open up and unfortunately there's so many people who you know have a microphone uh that are very popular right or that have a lot of people listening to them one of them we won't name yeah another one of them has a uh you know like and so everyone instead of taking any responsibility for oneself yeah and understanding that when everyone talks about they like they're they're out to get us that we're're all complicit in this, like, in this, like, society.

Like, there's – they is a tiny part of every single one of us. Right, right, right. Is what I truly believe. But so it really shirks responsibility for any personal accountability on all this stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Analytica, but they described overall the experience of propaganda today as, you know, someone shouting in your ear with a megaphone, except nobody around you can hear it. So like,

we don't know what propaganda you've been exposed to. Because, you know, you happen to be listening to, you know, whatever media diet you have selected for yourself, or, you know, your algorithms or Facebook has selected for you. That's like specifically designed to your preferences. It's like specifically designed to be appealing to you. But so what your beliefs are informed by are like people around you don't know. And it's really hard to monitor. Yeah. One of the things that I really took from this like with like the Russians and the Cambridge Analytica and all this is that how are people getting Facebook ads to work? Like I have been putting money into Facebook ads. Right. Like they work? Yeah, right.

Oh, that's the debate. They figured out how to get Facebook ads to work? Like they figured – I guess like to me and then like also – obviously, it's much more than I'm making a joke. But like as far as like stealing data and harvesting information from people. I mean maybe you should just use fear-based advertising to like sell your book and things like that. Maybe I should pull an Alex Jones and tell everybody that their kids are going to get a drink of juice. Oh, hell yeah. If you don't buy his book, your children's testicles will burn ovaries.

And that's the end of America. So try to have transvestites raise your children. It's like, what? Yeah. It's like, okay, let's relax. But I guess I will be buying his book now. Yeah. I hadn't realized that he was now targeting the person who took the video of the gray Dodge Charger going into the crowd of protesters in Charlottesville.

Dodge Charger, like going into the crowd of protesters in Charlottesville. Alex Jones has now like convinced everybody that that person's a deep state operative. The guy who took the video? He took the video. Okay. It was just down there, you know, being a counter protester, like just a young person who had like, he had been in, I think, uh, the Peace Corps or one of those, you know, or AmeriCorps or something like that. Yeah.

Something like that. And so he had gone to other countries to volunteer and they something like that. AmeriCorps, yeah, something like that. And so he had gone to other countries to volunteer and they're like, see, he's like – He's doing global – he's in all – CIA had him in Africa. Part of the global network. Man, this really pisses me off because as a guy who over the years has been into certain conspiracy theories and things like that, I mean the origin of conspiracy theory being created by the cia or whatever like not everything not every conspiracy theory is total bs and not and obviously they're not all true either but now as a dude who used to be into some of this stuff like now everything is a conspiracy theory

immediately when it happens right but every single thing is because of this maniac right like it's not like the shell casing hasn't even hit the floor before Alex Jones is saying crisis actors. Right, right, right. It's like, dude. Right. You are killing – you're killing us. And he'll use a defense that he's a performance actor. Right.

Performance artist. He's both killing us and killing in terms of traffic and his nutraceutical sales. Like he makes a fortune on – I thought he's not doing well though right now. Well, with advertisers, I think he's not doing well. Right, right. But I think he's making money off the nutraceutical sales. Like he makes a fortune on – I thought he's not doing well though right now. Well, with advertisers, I think he's not doing well. Right, right. But I think he's making money off the nutraceuticals. Oh, just enough, right.

Because I know he's getting hit with other lawsuits. And he's got a piece of the bunker companies, like survival bunker. Oh, yeah. I just bought mine. When you are court-ordered to pay close to what? $50,000 a month in child support? You're killing it. Right.

You know what I mean? Oh, is that what his child support payment is? No performance artist would ever be able to afford $50,000 a year if they're lucky, if you're a performance artist. Right. So that is one thing to note. He doesn't believe any of this shit. He goes into court and he's like, I'm an artiste.

I'm an artiste. This is a character that I play named Alex Jones. He happens to have the same name as me, but he does not have the same beliefs as me. Have you heard of Andy Kaufman? He's like, he's cocks. Exactly. But he is getting sued, this time not by his ex-wife, but by the guy who took the video in Charlottesville because his life has been completely ruined by Alex Jones and Alex Jones' – That must fuck.

It's got to be like Steve Bartman on crack. It's got to be time to remember what he's done to this guy. Right, and he only pissed off Chicago Cubs fans. So imagine when you get that whole – Did you ever see the movie The Circle? Mm-mm. It's about a social media group, and it's got Tom Hanks and Emma Watson. Oh, right.

I remember this. It kind of speaks to this. Dave Eggers' book. Yeah, it kind of speaks to this. Dave Eggers' book. Yeah, it kind of speaks to this. But the idea that you can destroy someone's life by shining your lens on them is such a reality that we're living in. Yeah. Yeah. And it's sad because the people who are creating the sort of platforms to do this, I seem to not really understand what they have created or what their role is in creating these so mark zuckerberg uh emerged from the mists uh where wherever he was just laying low for the past

five days and what's in his like residential where he bought like the nine houses around him right um and he it's a buffer zone as he calls it right you which would be so creepy if like all your neighbors were just empty houses. Yeah. Well, I think like homies live there, but he definitely was like, he's like, I'm gonna buy half this neighborhood. I don't want anybody looking at me. Wow. He really appreciates privacy.

Yeah. Weird. So he came out and was like, you know, he, he acknowledged that what they did was a problem and he said that they're working to fix the problem. He never said we're sorry because I'm sure legally like his lawyers were like, you do not say anything that indicates culpability. But there was this one passage in his interview with The New York Times where he was like, are there other Cambridge Analytica's out there where their apps, which could have gotten access to more information and potentially sold it without us knowing or done something that violated people's trust? We also need to make sure we get that under control. So he asked these questions that we're all asking him. And he was just like, I'll answer that question with another question.

Should we? With the same question. I'll answer that question with the same question. Ask me a question. Ask me a question. Ryan, do you think there are other Cambridge Analytica's out there that are using people's data in nefarious ways? Well, I think we have to ask ourselves, Ryan, are there other companies out there like Cambridge Analytica using – Wait, wait, wait.

Hold on. No, no, no. I just asked you a yes or no question, my man. The fuck are you talking... Yeah, and it's so reactive too. Like the shit is like, we're going to do a full forensic analysis of like all of our data, blah, blah, blah.

It's like, asshole, you need to be telling people about what you are doing now to prevent shit like this happening and saying more about rather than like yeah we're gonna have to look into that and get that under control yeah like it's not like a problem floor of a dorm where you're like yeah we're gonna look into i hear those kids are partying too much we're gonna look into that it's like 50 million people who knows if that's even

the actual number right uh 50 million people's data is like just being used for whatever the fuck people want. Can we also just mention, stop taking personality quizzes on Facebook. You don't know what house you're in, like the Harry Potter world. You know. You're a Hufflepuff. You're a Miranda. In your heart, you know you're a Slytherin. You're a Leonardo, unfortunately. You're a Leonardo and a Blue Ranger.

And none of you are Lionel. You're a Leonardo, unfortunately. You're a Leonardo and a Blue Ranger. And you're not, none of you are Lionel. None of you are Lionel. He also did this sort of false modesty thing where he was like, I mean, when I was making Facebook in my dorm room, like, I could never have imagined

that I'd be talking about, like, elections. It's like, dude, you easily, if I had that kid here right now, you as a freshman at Harvard and was like, yo, you're going to be talking about elections. He'd be like, yeah, fuck right. I am. Everyone is going to be, everyone in the fucking world is going to use this. Right.

But not for elections. Yeah. The way he really kind of threw his hands up, it was like, cause it was whiny almost the way, like if you really like watch that that interview on CNN because the way he's like – because the delivery was like if you told me in 2004, I would have to like be talking about election integrity. Right. It's like, fuck you. Right. Like just fucking – you have like the equivalent of the followers of like one of the most massive religions on earth

but if we're going by show volume of users like over two billion people right yeah you kind of have that fucking responsibility like i'm supposed to have to talk to you people when i'm the one of the richest guys yeah yeah in the world i'm like right in the words of don draper that's what the fucking money is for. Right. Like, yeah, you get all that money. There's something that we exchange for that. You need to like work really hard to like help us out. You don't just get to like sit back and be lucky and like win the lottery.

I mean, I understand like why it's lucrative to sell this data. And clearly that just got so out of hand that now we're at this point where like, whoa, whoa, whoa. What the fuck are you doing with all this information and like now we really have this sort of conversation i was like how much insight is too much insight like that clearly you know commerce and capitalism will function without these like hyper targeted advert advertisements and things like that and where is like the line now because now congress is like yo get your ass over here here and answer some fucking questions. And don't just answer my question with the question I just asked you. Right.

Yeah, I feel like they need – we were talking about black hats and white hats, like getting white hat hackers who will like work on exposing flaws like this ahead of time. I feel like they need to be spending, you know, when they talk about like releasing a movie, you spend like equal to the production budget on advertising it. I feel like these companies need to spend equal to whatever their operating budget is on trying to like find vulnerabilities and think like somebody trying to exploit their product. Once they get that big, like that's where they need to be thinking because that's their responsibility. And they're not going to do that on their own. The government needs to like find them to such a degree that they have to think of these solutions themselves and like be proactive, but they're not going to get proactive just by us being like, shame on you. Like it's, they need to see actual you know monetary consequences or people

like being like oh you delete your facebook right and your instagram and all this what's crazy to me is that like people are even talking about like well i guess i'll just be on twitter then right like as if twitter is the better one right yeah see unfortunately the easiest solution to all of this is the most difficult for people to get the the fuck off social media basically. Yeah, it's just – I mean whether – I mean I think it's kind of ironic that he has these nine empty houses around him, that he's so disconnected from people when like he's got the thing that supposedly connected us all the most, right? Right. But the easiest way is to just get off Facebook and get off these – like I'm trying to remember trying to remember, but it's not a new statement. There's nothing free. Right.

So anytime you sign up for free something, you're giving away – you know you're surrendering your soul, as it were. Right. So I mean, the world was fine without social media to a certain degree. I mean, there are benefits. I'm not one of these old grumpy, like, I'm 41. Right. I'm in my middle ages. like old grumpy like i'm 41 right without you know i'm in my middle ages you know like i think um you know what was it the uh egypt summer arab spring arab spring yeah the total age of summer

yeah it turned into an egypt summer the connectivity of that with uh live video on twitter specifically i remember because it was also during i think that happened during like the occupy movement was like kind of strong during all that time as well. And I know that like there is real power in social media. And unfortunately – It cuts both ways. It cuts both ways. And like our producer Nick was pointing out that when that was happening, everyone on Twitter and Facebook was patting themselves on the back like, oh, look how – look at this tool for change we've created.

And they love it when they can do the little pat on the back victory dance. But when you start looking at it a little bit closer, like, well, what's the other side of that? Then they're like, oh, well, we'll have to look into that. It's just it depends on if it's the type of change you want to be happening. It's like we were talking about yesterday, the fact that Obama 2012, that campaign used a lot of the same tools that Cambridge Analytica did. They weren't quite as shady. They didn't quite steal data. They just like got data.

But Facebook was like, this is a little shady, but we'll let you do it until the election's over because everybody was cool with Obama getting reelected. obama getting re-elected um but yeah and like nick was saying uh the fact that they've known since the arab spring and since obama won the uh 2012 election that facebook could be used for these things like puts a lie to the thing that zuckerberg was saying like when i was sitting in my dorm did i know that Facebook could be influencing elections? It's like, yeah, you definitely knew that. We know you knew that five years ago. Like we know for a fact. Yeah, but I didn't know that in 2004.

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And so, you know, we got accused of being a little leftish because we somebody who's on the left who I don't think I could hate more or be more annoyed by. I have a physical reaction to this guy. Barack Obama. Yeah, it's the actor Barack Obama. No, it's the actor Sean Penn. No. So he just released, or is in the process, next week apparently sees the release of his first novel. Oh, great. It is...

What's the title? The title is grammatically incorrect. It is Bob Honey Who Just Do Stuff. So we're pretentious right from the jump. Bob Honey Who just do stuff. Like it's interesting and artistic because that's not how you say that phrase. Yeah. How do you say it to make it sound coherent?

Who just does stuff. Right. No, but as written, Bob Honey who just do stuff. Is there like a pace? Bob Honey. Yeah. Bob Honey. Who?

Just do stuff. Oh, just do stuff. Yeah there like a pace? Bob Honey who? Just do stuff. Oh, just do stuff. So it's like multiple people need to be involved in this conversation. Or Bob Honey who? Like you don't know who Bob Honey is. And then it's just like, just do stuff. Anyway, so this book sounds great already

because we can't even wrap our minds on the title. We're still running scenarios. Yeah, I'm still like a six-year-old kid like, Hey, Mom, I don't know Bob Honey. wrap our minds on running scenarios yeah i'm still like a six year old kid like hey mom i don't know bob honey honey who just do stuff right right yeah uh so bob honey uh-huh has a hard time connecting with other people he's the protagonist uh-huh especially since his divorce huh hmm oh okay he's tired of being marketed to every moment well sick of a world where even an orgasm isn't real until it is turned into a tweet now what the fuck are you talking about right there this is in the amazon description of the book this isn't jack riffing this is an m this is the product description of a world where even an orgasm isn't real until it is turned into a tweet.

What the fuck does that mean? Like, how does someone write that sentence and be like, I've summed up our culture. That's like dad beat poetry. I don't even know. It's so embarrassing. The thing continues. A paragon of old-fashioned american entrepreneurship bob sells septic tanks to jehovah's witnesses and arranges pyrotechnic displays for foreign

dictators okay see he's on the whole spectrum right experience yeah uh let me just skip ahead to the end of the description with treason on everyone's lips terrorism in everyone's sights and american political life sinking to ever lower standards bob decides it's time to make a change if he doesn't get killed by his mysterious controllers or exposed in the rapacious media first what do you mean killed what is the deep state right he's referencing the deep state for sure controllers the other part we skipped is that he could quote he's also a contract killer for an off-the-books program run by a branch of user talent. Right, right. He's also a killer.

That targets the elderly, the infirm, and others who drain this consumption-driven society of its resources. An elderly hit person? Right. No, he kills the old, the elderly. Because it's hurting American- Dude, our healthcare system is doing a perfect job of old, the elderly. Because it's hurting American health care. Dude, our health care system is doing a perfect job of fucking over the elderly anyway. Like, they're ideal targets. My God.

Yeah. And as our writer, J.M. McNabb said, who better to transition into a career as a satirist than Sean Penn, a guy who wrote an angry letter to Trey Parker and Matt Stone after Team America came out offering to fly them to Iraq before they should be allowed to make jokes about not voting in an election. Because, yeah, he just took everything they said seriously. He's also the guy who, when Chris Rock made some joke about Jude Law when he hosted the Oscars, Sean Penn got up in his acceptance speech and was like, I'll tell you who Jude Law is. He's one of our finest working actors. Oh, wow.

I was like – All right, Spicoli, sit down. We also watched a video that I don't think you can put into words necessarily i mean i understand sean penn he's he's a real activist and really trying to to fucking heal the wounds of this country so you i had never seen this video jack says yo have you seen the video where sean penn and kid rock are like arguing at a bar and they heal the nation i said fuck no uh we watch it it's fucking insane it's uh it's sean penn at a bar like watching Mitt Romney introduce Kid Rock to do a live performance. And then the fucking shot holds on this Kid Rock performance for a good 20 seconds more than it needs to be.

Right, like way long time. And then suddenly Sean Penn's like, can you change it? And the bartender does. And then the whole time Kid Rock was next to him, like drinking really loudly with his friends. Singing into his beer bottle. Yeah. And then trading the real tired stereotypical jabs that the left and right have for each other. He's like, you're just a Confederate flag-hugging, blah, blah, blah.

And Kid Rock's like, you're just a previous-driving Obama-sucking. I don't know what to fuck that. Obama-sucking. Yo, miss me with that homophobic shit, Kid Rock. A troop Obama. Yeah, miss me with that homophobic shit, Kid Rock. Chupabama. Yeah, Chupabama. Right. And then like, I don't know, it just underlines sort of how out of touch or insane both of them are.

Kid Rock, who wrote and I think directed or at least had a lot to do with the editing of this movie because of like, there's a shot, like Miles was saying saying where he's watching a kid rock performance completely gratuitous like there's actually no need for sean penn to see this kid rock performance no but then it holds on the kid rock performance for like 35 seconds so kid rock can like do the party thinks looks cool right but this was clearly like written and edited by him and he never comes around on the gay thing he's still homophobic at the end. Like Sean Penn takes him to a gay marriage, which, by the way, is like the 80s beer commercial version of gay. It's like a guy dressed up as a groom and then another guy dressed up as a woman with a beard. A woman with a beard. And then like surprise takes the veil away and they start kissing.

And Kid Rock goes, no, no, no way. Like really big gestures. Right. Yeah. What's crazy, though, too, is in that bar scene, the turn happens when they're bickering over their political ideological differences is when suddenly the news report comes on about a few like military like troops losing their lives in afghanistan and then like immediately dropped the arguing they both like drop their heads sean penn starts sobbing he starts crying he starts crying And then he's like, yeah, man, I guess we should get along.

Right. And then they're like, to freedom. And I think they cheers. Yeah. And they go on like a gratuitous buddy trip where they learn about each other on the beach. And they make a sandcastle flag. He sells his hot rod for a priest. It is the 10 longest minutes of your life.

I mean, people say like the DMT experience, the psychedelic, it lasts about 10 to 15 minutes, right? Yeah. And, you know, allegedly. And it feels like eternity. Oh, it does. I thought I was in the matrix. This is, like, the video equivalent of DMT if you had, like, a really bad trip. Yeah.

This is what if a DMT trip is, like, right before you smoke the DMT, this is your stepmom yelling at you because your report card is really bad. That's 10 minutes, but it feels like it's the longest video you've ever seen in your life. Yeah. Yeah, there's just a lot of cool stuff in this. But you owe it to yourself to once try psychedelics to like expand your mind. You owe it to yourself to at least once watch this video to see, if nothing else, the amazing way time can dilate when Sean Penn is trying to teach you something about how the world works. Yeah, and how full of shit both people on either side can be. Could you pick – could you fantasy draft?

Could you choose, select with your imagination two better slash worse people to represent like what it means for the opposites of america sean penn and alex jones would be pretty dope yeah okay okay but sean penn is our all of those things yeah he's the worst of us yeah he's the worst of everything yeah he's definitely the worst californians artists everything he's just he embodies it all uh but getting back to his novel, so it features an American president who might be a stand-in for whoever is currently in the White House. I don't know. His name is Mr. Landlord. OK. So the protagonist is Bob Honey.

His name is Mr. Landlord. The president is Mr. Landlord. I hope there's a dramatic scene in this book where it's like, and Bob Honey said he's going to take down Mr. Landlord. Right, right. Yeah, that sentence written out. Yeah, and then he talks about, yeah, there's a whole thing about how this president has an unhealthy obsession with Twitter and an uncanny ability to spark furious marches by women around the world. And then it says also contains the Killer Burn penis-idency. Yeah. Yeah, it's a weird thing uh okay so part of it is he's writing a letter bob honey's writing a letter

to the president mr land mr land dear mr landlord not it's probably not even president land right many wonderful american people in pain and rage elected you many russians did too burn your position is an asterisk accepted as literally as your alternative facts burn though the office will remain real you never were nor will be whoa a million women so dwarfed your penis sedency which is supposed to be a play on presidency even though that's not clear at all. And penis? Nope.

Oh. Oh, yeah. No, funnily enough, not. No. Penis-a-dency on the streets of Washington and around the world on the day of your piddly inauguration. That sentence doesn't end. And then it just says, dot, dot, dot, tweet me, bitch.

I dare you. That is sharp. Razor sharp. He's even got fucking heat for the me too movement yeah calls the me too movement quote an infantilizing term of the day is this a toddler's crusade reducing rape slut shaming and suffrage to reckless child's play a platform for accusation impunity due process has lost its sheen. I mean, it's crazy, too, because like I was saying, he I mean, both him and Madonna deny that like you like abused her. But there are plenty of reports of people like pulling up to the scene and seeing a distraught Madonna who I think was bloodied or whatever, supposedly, allegedly by Sean Penn. bloodied or whatever supposedly allegedly by sean penn and yet it's not his fault in the sense that he has not lived in anything approaching reality for quite some 30 years at the very least and so

people who are this famous are just going to do embarrassing shit and you know they definitely don't live in the real tough break yeah i i tough break. Yeah, I do. This is inevitable, I should say. It is his fault, but it's inevitable. But there's nobody there to be like looking at his first draft of this book, even though who knows if he even thought he needed someone to look at it and be like, this actually isn't very good. We maybe need to work on some of the dialogue to make it more realistic, like real people talk. This is how people talk, man. In my mind. I was in the back of a Lincoln with Matthew McConaughey yesterday talking about how cool it is to every once in a while drive. Yeah.

Like a gas car. Whoa. And finally, so the origin story of the book might be the best part. The origins of the book began with an audio book sean penn performed claiming it was written by pappy pariah a novelist he quote met at a bar in key west i think he's a pariah way is was known as papa hemingway and that's where he lived in key west and sean penn is a pariah sean penn is also the heingway of our generation. And the initials are PP.

And Sean Penn, like, it's so deep on so many levels. It's crazy, man. And again, we are blessed to have people like Salman Rushdie put a fucking quote on the front of that book that says, it seems wrong to say that so dystopian

a novel is great fun to read but it's true i suspect that thomas pinchin and hunter s thompson would love this book okay i could just see him like he's sitting at a bar drinking some drink in key west and he's like yeah oh if you don't think that conversation happened with him playing both sides of the thread. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, just realizing it. I mean, people love your voice. I mean, they do. They always have. I mean, so maybe we should do the audiobook version first.

I think this is crazy enough to work. Oh, pop up, all right. Oh, are you serious? Then the bartender's like, hey, asshole, stop talking to yourself. You're freaking out my customers. Get the fuck out. What did I tell you last week? Ryan, it's been a pleasure having you here, man.

This has been great. Thanks for having me. Where can people find you, follow you? They can find me on ryansingercomedy.com. There's a link to my new book that just came out. I put out a replica of, to my knowledge, the first time a comedian has put out their notebook so people can see what it's like to look inside a comedian's notebook, if they so choose. It's kind of

an art comedy book that I really like, so they can check that out on Amazon, self-release. Ryansingercomedy.com's got links to everything RyseSingh on Instagram. He brought us a copy. It is dope. Check it out. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram

at Miles and Gray. You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information contained in today's episode. That is going to do it for today.

Miles, do you have a song to write us out on? Yes. You know, I just want to, as Sean Penn was saying, since the Me Too movement has infantilized everything, I just want to play a song by Sly and the Family Stone called Just Like a Baby. Because, you know, it's just got a great vibe to it. And just remember, it's Trump Free Thursday,

so just vibe out. And, you know, listen to Sly. Let him fill your soul with his torture, torture voice. All right. That's going to do it for today. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys later. Thank you. Just like a baby Crying

Just like a baby I can feel it when you're there In your home Oh yeah Oh, yeah. Thank you. Just like a baby Just like a baby Just like a baby Just like a baby Just like a baby

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