The Daily Zeitgeist - Benefits For Anti-Vaxxers? Squid Game Moral Panic 11.1.21

Episode Date: November 1, 2021

In episode 1020, Jack and Miles are joined by radio and podcast producer Yael Even Or to discuss Iowa’s capacity for empathy being inspiring, We’re gonna do something about redlining now! Billionaire and amateur architect is designing dorms that look like prisons, Squid Game Moral Panic and more!FOOTNOTES: Iowa’s capacity for empathy is inspiring DOJ: We’re gonna do something about redlining now! Billionaire and amateur architect is designing prisons...err I mean uhh dorms  Here Comes the Squid Game Moral Panic  LISTEN: Vico C - Viernes 13 Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah. National Vinegar Day. I didn't know vinegar needed its own holiday. Snuck in there under the wire. Yeah. I mean, after all that sugar that we've been eating from Halloween, we need a little vinegar to balance things out. Halloween is like All Hallows Eve.

So it's really like the day before we have the official holiday, which is, of course, National Calzone Day. Of course, yes. And All Saints Day or something. I don't know what that means. I used to get stoked, though, because I went to catholic high school and sometimes you get that day off so halloween could really get fucked up on halloween in high school well my name is jack o'brien aka somebody once told me they're voting for mitt romney. He said howdy neighbor I am Ted.

While he seemed all nice and fun and his mustache was real dumb I just knew that that asshole votes all red. That is courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi-Main talking about how Ted Lasso clearly

a Republican. Come on y'all. Let's be real. He's a Lasso truther. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Yes, Jack, your Pringles take seems to have offended a few people that they turned to mush. So in honor of that, I just want to sing this track to you. They say there is a sacred phrase once coveted by frito-lay but you don't really care for pringles do ya it goes like this from bottom to top once you pop you just can't stop a communion Sexy salty cousin. That's not true, Jack. They don't turn to goo, Jack.

They'll crunch too, Jack. They'll still crunch too. Okay. Thank you so much to Marky Mark Aurelius on the Discord. I don't like that little gladiator reference. Historical reference. But yes, they don't turn to goo jack is what people seem to think. I do say this.

They're not all chips, so they do something funky in there. I mean, they've been specifically sued in the UK for being a crisp, a potato crisp that is not like I think it's less than 50% potato. So it's not just me saying that. I'm also not saying that they're not crunchy at first. I'm just saying that they are made from a slurry. But yeah, comparing them to communion wafers is not quite fair. The food that is best compared to communion wafers are those ice cream cones. Oh.

Oh, like sugar? Sugar cones? Yeah, the sugar ice cream cones, which are not sweet. They're just made of communion wafer for some reason. I feel like they are from an era before we figured out how to, you know, if I were to ever believe in Christianity or follow Christianity, I would hope that the Savior Jesus Christ would want his body to have a little more seasoning than that. Right.

Right. If you're going to accept the Eucharist. But yeah, that's neither here nor there. I do just sprinkle a little barbecue seasoning on it, like the barbecue potato chip seasoning. The priest is like, give me the big one. Hold up one second.

Let me get this out of my pocket. A little flavor. A little of the Cheeto dust. I think you can buy Cheeto dust. Sweet baby rays. Oh, Mark. Mr. Mark Zuckerberg. Big fan.

We're not big fans of his. He's a big fan of Sweet Baby Ray's. Anyways, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by another one of these first-rate guests on our second-rate podcast. She's a radio and podcast producer, writer, editor, journalist, and filmmaker who's worked for PRI, KCRW, Audible, as well as Israel's Walla News. Her reporting and commentary has appeared in the Washington Post. You might have heard of that.

BBC World Service, Vice, and the South African Daily Maverick, among many others. And her documentary film, Swing Country, recently premiered at the Wisconsin Film Festival. She's also a 2017 Jaws Emerging Journalist Fellow, which I'm assuming means she broke some stories about the Amityville mayor refusing to close the beaches during a string of brutal shark attacks. Please welcome the brilliant and talented Yael Evan. Oh!

Yael! Hi. Welcome. Oh, thank you. That was a long intro. I know. Hey. But it's nice.

We have to let people know, sometimes on this sad little show, we have accomplished, distinguished guests on. So thank you so much for coming by. Oh, yeah. Thank you for inviting me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I never had a communion wafer before, but you made it sound really good. Oh, it's so good. Delicious. It's so flavorless, you know.

It's really, I remember, you know, the first time I pretended to, like, take communion. Like, you know, you have to be confirmed usually, you know, like, or you have to have your first communion. Yeah, because all the pressure when you're, like, in a religious school they're like what you're not you're not like everybody else i'm like with my asian mom and black dad who was almost like an atheist i'm like oh yeah yeah i love this yeah let me let me hit that wafer real quick you can't stop yeah exactly you're in new york right i am yeah i'm in brooklyn how's the weather is it are we getting fall New York weather? Yeah. Did y'all get a storm too recently? We got a storm a couple of days ago.

I think like because of that storm that no one was prepared for with all the rain. Now, like everyone was, you know, very, we were talking about it all day. And then, I don't know, I went to sleep and I think it happened overnight. And honestly, I don't think it did as, you know, nearly any damage. So it was fine. I'm enjoying, I'm enjoying the colder weather for the next, you know, for the next month or so, then it will be too cold. Fully cold. Yeah.

I remember this in New York. I don't know if it's specific to New York or it's just a, you know, the most recent place I lived that has weather, like we we had a really big almost like blizzard they were like over there's over a foot of snow in the streets and it like all came down at once to the point that my wife was driving home from the hospital and like her car got stuck in the middle of the street like just that's how much snow was coming down like it just got stuck mid snowstorm and like i had to like shovel it out. But it was like still in the middle of the street.

It got stuck like while driving. But then the rest of that winter, every time it was there was like a 1% chance of snow. The local news would be like blizzard coming. Everybody like nail down everything. Secure your children. And then it was it was nothing but it was just like once there was a weather event right that was that's all they needed then it was yeah apaca blizzard yeah i just i would definitely take la weather yeah bring it here stay in new

york but i'm so scared of like a situation like that because i didn't grow up with snow at all so i would not know what to do yeah pollution and might be doing that work for you you know yeah it's getting winters are actually less harsh i've seen the i've seen the projections i think new york's going to be a tropical climate by the mid-century so yeah you know it's like exxon always says if you don't like weather, just wait around 100 years and we will have completely changed it. Yeah. You'll be alive to see it. But this is a little happy. Yeah. All right. Well, yeah. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we are going to tell our listeners a couple of the things that we're talking about.

We're going to talk about Iowa's capacity for empathy for people who don't believe in science. We're going to talk about whether the Department of Justice is actually going to do something about redlining. We're going to talk about a billionaire and amateur architect who is designing a prison or dorms, I guess. Yeah, yeah. No, not prison. It's a dorm. It's a dorm. It's a dorm. Okay. And we will, of course, talk about the squid Game moral panic that is coming for all of us. All of that, plenty more. But first, we do like to ask our guest, Yael, what is something from your search history? Oh, so I moved a couple of months ago to a new apartment and I realized like a week ago that my favorite spot for reading is

also the darkest spot in the living room so I realized I needed a lamp and you know I don't know if it just happens to me because English is my second language or it's a common thing but do you know when you have like a product in mind like you know how it looks like but you don't know how it's called I mean besides the obvious lamp but I have this thing in my mind that it's like hanging on this shelf and it like, I can still direct it to me even though the shelf is on my side. And anyway, I have... I know what you're describing, yep. Okay. So I probably had like dozens or hundreds of Google searches just trying to kind of refine that lamp i was looking for eventually i settled on something like clip-on light with adjustable neck yeah flexible neck

i was gonna say flexible neck yeah you see you got it yeah i went through like 360 i went through like there was another word i don't know like bookshelf attaching to bookshelf I also like a clippy lamp and a lot of it like they sell the clip-on as kind of the same side that the lamp is angled towards and I actually need them to be opposite sides because the shelf is near me so it's not like a desk you know when you need right right right sure to google all these like goes both sides like weird searches like that 360 goes both sides, like weird searches like that. 360 goes both sides. Exactly.

And what made it harder is that I was trying not to buy from Amazon. And Amazon is really good at understanding what I'm trying to say. So all searches always lead there. It was much more complicated when I tried to avoid them and go to Etsy. Right. Yeah. So that's many google searches in the last few days but I did buy a lamp eventually so nice congratulations that's huge

as you were saying that I'm like gooseneck is one thing you'll say too right like gooseneck gooseneck I just think of that as how I hold my follow through after I drain a three. After a gooseneck. When you pop three. Yeah. I didn't see gooseneck. Oh, yeah. That's a good idea. I mean, again, there's so many ways to describe the same product. But in the end, I'm glad that you found the right thing.

Well, I actually end up buying a different lamp. But I settled on something that just sits on the shelf. But I think I figured it out. And then I just saw my options and I went with another type of lamp. There it is. How is the move treating you? I know just from my time living in New York that it is oftentimes an annual, sometimes semi-annual occasion to move when you're living in New York. Yeah, I feel it's been like three months

and i still and this is like a regular point of like argument between me and my partner when i'm like well we're still in the process of moving and he's like we're we're done we're here what are you talking about right but i just feel like there's still we haven't figured it out you know yeah yeah you mean like in terms of like putting like where your stuff goes and that's like exactly yeah like and like all these things all these adjustments of like all the swag you know made sense in the old apartment but now we need a bigger one or right now and you're like slowly just getting to all these things so and i think also like getting familiar with your immediate neighborhood too is also like part of i feel like part of that moving process because like you know you'll be like oh shit i have this is my store now this is my bodega now or this is

where i have to get groceries now or this is my where i get coffee yeah where my subway stop is yeah yeah yeah that's been easier than the the apartment stuff but yeah i know right yeah yeah what uh what's something you think is overrated i I was thinking about, I mean, it's going to out me as kind of old, but like celebrating birthdays. I started to think that is overrated. And it's mostly because my last, I had a birthday in September and there was this like perfect storm of, you know, COVID numbers I think weren't great. And I was actually recovering from medical procedure. And so I, you know, I was kind of quiet about my birthday. And also I just reactivate deactivated my Facebook and Instagram. So and I think I don't know what younger people are doing.

But like, I think people really got used to like, learning. I mean, remembering birthdays based on Facebook, right? And so really, almost no one remembered if I had my birth it's kind of sad but you know just my friends and family and I think with everything that's happening you know it's just right and you don't have another system for the most part to remember so I just didn't do anything and you know everything was just kind of a normal day and I was like that's you know as an adult I feel like I can just celebrate if I want to celebrate something I can always come up with a reason like I can always be like oh I never did the housewarming or I want to invite people for this holiday or like I don't actually need that right

yeah well and also now it won't be a problem because you can reactivate now that Facebook has changed their name to meta right so? Well, I actually did the permanently. I did this after like a month or two, I decided to permanently delete, which I think just went into effect. So it's a good time, right? Yeah. Are birthdays among adults a bigger deal in the United States than Israel? You know, I don't know, but I do know that something really,

a really funny difference I noticed is that in Israel and I'm assuming in other countries, like most of the world, like once you're like 35 and a half or like close to 36, you're going to start saying you're 36 and Americans are are like they're not gonna say it until the day which i find very weird we're so afraid of being old oh yeah it's been hammered in our heads with modern marketing campaigns yeah don't be an old loser but yeah i think it's also like this idea too like as if you're like a sports agent and you're like no this guy ain't 20 he's not he's 29 until he's 29 man this kid's 28 you know this guy's still got juice in those legs which is just a funny argument that i always see in like soccer discourse about people this always getting this argument it's like

this this player is nearly 30 years old they're like well he's 29 and they're like but he's he'll be 30 in three weeks and they're like he's 29 until he's 30. Okay. And that's until this day. So why is that? Like, if you're already like almost there, it's like, I'm like at the half, I'm starting to switch. So I still give my age in months, like I'm a newborn. I tell people that I'm 491 months old. So in a week, you're still in uterus. Yeah, exactly. That's funny, though. That's funny though.

That is such a telling difference. I'm in my 120th trimester. But yeah, considering that, I guess maybe Americans are more precious about their birthdays. I mean, because that's the only day they're willing to actually change their age. So I don't know.

I think it depends. Yeah, like sort of where you're at. Like, you know, I know people who are like, it's my birthday week. I'm like, okay, fool. Do you need more attention? Or okay, fine. Whereas I'm at that age now too. I have my birthday in September also.

And my shit just felt like Wednesday. Right. You know, like, I think the one thing I really do to feel good on my birthday is look at the date and be like, yo yo this is my one day and like really look at my calendar i'm like there it is september 15th we're here baby y'all love it and that's to me i think the most like joy i get out of my birthday is like looking at the calendar and be like it's me baby and then that's it but it's between you and yourself. Between me and my God, the cell phone. What is something you think is underrated?

Phone calls. Okay. I mean, specifically. I like this movement. Yeah. Oh, there is a movement? I'll join. No, I mean, like, this is a theme we've been hearing sort of consistently, and I like to hear it. But go on.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, I can talk about, like, phone calls, like, you know, with friends and family. Yeah. I mean, I, yeah, I can talk about like phone calls, like, you know, with friends and family, but I think like, you know, just recently I dealt with a lot of like bureaucracy and, you know, just picking up the phone and call, like, I just had this thing with my health insurance yesterday and I picked up a phone and I waited on the line. It wasn't pleasant, but like today it was fixed. And it's, I think there is something about just like, you're just there, you're waiting, someone actually talking to you. It humanizes you. You explain to them why, you know, you're in a bind.

You need. So when it comes to like service providers, bureaucracy, whenever you can. And it's kind of frustrating that a lot of, you know, services and business don't give you the option anymore. But when you can. It's all automated. Yeah. And I do have that. Like I did get used to like avoiding the phone and, you know the phone and looking for the option for the online chat or whatever. But recently, I'm like, I should just call more. And also, I'm picking up the phone, which is radical. Unless it's scam likely.

Now, there's so many stealth numbers, too, that pop in on your phone that aren't labeled like that. And it'll be really deceptive because it'll be in your local area code. And you're like, oh, maybe that's someone I know. And then you pick it up and they're like, you have missed your chance for a rebate on your Medicare. I'm like, what? Yeah. But then it takes like a second to know. And then you just hang up. Yeah.

And then immediately I say block number. Yeah. Sometimes I'll cold call the scam likely numbers on my phone just to have someone to talk to you know yeah is that depressing or no no no that's cool right like that's just that's cool so that's what you're doing every time i tell you i'm too busy to talk yeah yeah oh that's cool man that's cool i'm actually gonna call my friend now anyway oh Yeah, I got to run anyways because I got this person that I got to talk to. Got this conference call. About my opinions on the local healthcare.

I actually have a call set up with the IRS. I got to give them a bunch of info or they're going to take my money. So I got to go to get a bunch of Best Buy gift cards right now. Got to talk to my friend about my car warranty. Apparently, it's up soon and just getting their advice on that. But I got options. I literally just had a long interaction with like one of my local coffee places that I really like that like fucked up my order. And I had my three year old with me.

And it was just a situation where I couldn't go back to like get the thing that they forgot to give me and so i just like wrote them an email and was like it would be great if you guys like had a had a phone number that people could call they don't have a phone number they don't have a phone number they have they have this like text a barista thing which i assume why would you text the barista i like they Oh, that's what you should have done is text the barista that they fucked up your order. But that's, it seems more like a novelty thing.

So anyways, wait, what was your complaint? Exactly. I like how you like, you wrote a strongly worded email. I'm like, no,

I didn't. I like, I was very like, you guys are my favorite. I love, I love this place. This is more just like in a, yeah,

this is more just advice for like and i just told the situation and that they like some advice for your little no no i'm no i'm fucking with you but what did they forget tell me what the transgression was what was the mistake i got lunch for my kids my wife and i and they forgot my lunch and all the sides wow and it also wasn't ready at the time like they didn't have my order when I showed up and then I was a Biden check with a oh yeah don't think that I wasn't like thanks a lot Biden at the top of my lungs the whole time that I was waiting for it but but wait you went to pick it up and did you notice that it was wrong or only when you got home only when I got home and so I had already been waiting there with my three-year-old and like you know my

three-year-old has a very short attention span and like isn't super patient and he was hungry and so when we finally got it i just like grabbed it and you know left and then when i got home realized my food wasn't there and right it always when i got wrote a very politely worded that's like your it was sad is like that's part of your shitty like lunch fate because when we would do group lunches too there'd be times i'm like everybody got their thing except jack they forgot your shit yeah and you're all normally you'll be like nah it's all good and then we're like no i remember so you'd be like no nah, it's all good. And then we're like, no. I remember Sophie being like, no, we got to go kick the fucking door down and go get your burger. And you're like, I'll just get some other stuff.

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so you can catch up on our conversations that are intimate, surprising, and often hilarious. Listen to Table for Two with Bruce Bozzi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. and we're back and you know it's good to see that at least one state in our grand united states actually cares about the little people who don't believe in science yeah yeah this is cool this is really cool to see uh the republicans are are here to help the unemployed as long as the unemployed lost their job because they didn't want to get vaccinated. No other reason than that. I mean, yeah, the vaccine hesitancy issue is continues. Never ending story in this country. The most recent headline was like 12,000 Air Force personnel are still like being like, no, we don't want it. We like we'd love to be in cramped quarters with a pandemic going on and no scientific recourse for safety.

And now we're seeing this new, really cool bill from the state of Iowa, which has just passed through their state house. And I think potentially going to the governor's desk for a signature very soon. desk for a signature very soon. But like we've covered in past stories, a lot of people thought their employers were pump faking or bluffing when they're like, hey, there's a mandate for our employees to be vaccinated. Also, there's going to be a federal mandate that we're trying to abide by. So get it together. And then they found themselves being like, I didn't think they were serious that someone who's a frontline healthcare worker had to be vaccinated against a pandemic. Well, now we have no jobs. Well, in comes the state of Iowa because they've just opened their hearts to these people who have no concept of altruism. They want to actually expand unemployment benefits to people that get fired for refusing. So this Republican bill,

quote, specifies that employees who refuse the vaccine and are fired would not be disqualified from unemployment benefits. The bill additionally says employers shall waive a vaccine requirement for an employee who submits a statement that receiving the vaccine would be, quote, injurious to their health or well-being or that it conflicts, quote, with the tenets and practices of a religion the employee adheres to. The statement also would not need to be attested by a physician or a faith leader. Okay. So you can just be like a general vibe. No, my doctor says no. And they're like, who's your doctor? Like, that's illegal.

A doctor can't attest to this. I'm just saying that's my sort of frequency I'm vibing at right now is I don't want the vaccine. HIPAA. HIPAA. Yeah. And I mean, it's like a a very i think what's interesting about this bill though too is like it's getting like a lot of opposition from all sides like there are democrats business owners who are like what is this like this is this is actually going to put people at risk and also it's creating penalties for employers who are trying to follow mandates like because they're gonna because they also want people who are to fire them for not getting vaccinated to

pay more into the unemployment fund as a result of this. So they're like, this isn't really sustainable in any way. If anything, you're using financial threats to get people to ignore a mandate. And then on the anti-mask vac side, they're like, this doesn't go far enough. They should throw the employers in prison if they mandate a vaccine. And also, this really just needs to be an all-out ban. So it's a very sticky situation. And you probably have to do some investigation into any of these unemployment claims to see what it's about, which I don't know what the situation right now,

but you know, for a while there was such a crazy backlog with unemployment in so many states. So it's really creating so much more work. Yeah. It seems like, I don't even, I don't know how in practice you really approach this kind of,

I mean, would they like firing because yeah. Right. I think that's what many people who are looking at this, like this doesn't, this just sounds like a thing you're saying to like help anti-vaxxers feel better like we don't even know legislatively like it's not very clear how this works and is going to not turn into like a runaway train that ends up just like bankrupting businesses if people just start

being like if we all quit in mass then they're going to have to force to pay into the unemployment and then what but the irony is just kind of level, like that you have people who don't feel beholden to anyone also have the expectation of financial support for their selfishness, too. Yeah, everybody else should pay for my ability to disregard their safety. Yeah. Maybe we fire them and hire them to work from home and help with the backlog of people who need financial support from the government needs to become a full-time bureaucrat just to fucking juggle it so maybe maybe that's what we can do send all those people to the salt mines of helping people get paid unemployment also just as an immigrant in this country i want to remind people that like people are like oh why they're they're so, you know, vaccine mandates.

Why is the U.S. so forceful about them? Like people who weren't born here always had to get a lot of vaccines to just be here. That was always and they added COVID-19 as well. So it's like if you come to this country, you're trying to get a visa or when you do a green card, like like i come from a pretty i mean israel is pretty big on vaccines and i still had to do a bunch of vaccines and like otherwise i just i couldn't be here so it's not like the u.s all of a sudden is like oh let's enforce vaccines they're always enforcing them to people who are not citizens oh wow like so you've been here for a while and they just you were still forced to get the vaccine like right away. Well, no, I'm just saying.

Yeah, I mean, no, I was a little I was a vaccine hesitant for only because I couldn't find my record, like my vaccine record from when I was a baby. And or my mom couldn't find it because I never held it myself. And I was like, I don't want to get like a second vaccine for something that I'm already vaccinated for, but there was really no like wiggle room, you know? So like when you come to the country, you have to get a series of vaccine. I was on a student visa. And then when I got a green card, like six years after there's like another long list of vaccines. And if I couldn't prove that I have them through antibodies or vaccine records, I had to get a bunch of them again.

So, yeah. Right. And that's always the process. So and now they added COVID-19, which makes sense. Right. But just to like anyone that thought that like, oh, everyone here has the freedom to not get vaccinated if they want to. That's no, it's just for citizens. Right.

Yeah. But yet here they are. Their freedoms are being infringed upon. Just it's amazing how that one word is just like a catch all to just say like, no, the law is negated because freedom. Human decency negated because freedom. Yes. Interesting. Well, yeah.

All right. Let's talk about redlining. You know, it was I feel like most people who listen to the show would know what redlining is. But it was the racist practice of making it so that people of color and black households, Hispanic households could not get loans for homes to be couldn't become homeowners and therefore couldn't grow their wealth. Yeah, quite literally drawing red lines on a map where their communities of color and banks are like, don't invest there. Yeah, don't allow people to get loans. We're not interested in those. And yes, like you're saying, a racist practice that was technically outlawed in 1968, but the negative impacts, we still feel them today. I mean, yeah, just quickly, we've talked about it

before, but it still happens informally in the real estate market with landlords and real estate agents claiming there aren't apartments available to families of color or not showing them houses in neighborhoods where they believe or where they claim that a family of color would lower the property value. That's a piece of accepted wisdom in the real estate industry in a lot of places. That's actually a thing that real estate agents and landlords have been caught on camera and on audio doing in the last few years in backwater shitholes like, I don't know, New York City and New Jersey and LA. Yeah, it's just everywhere. Yeah. And as you look, like you're saying, home ownership, like in America, the path to wealth accumulation is typically intersecting

with property ownership, with owning your home. And when you look at the start of 2020, nearly 75% of white households own their homes compared to 40% of black households or 48% of Hispanic households and or even 55% of other racial minority households. So the DOJ has announced that it's going to be tackling this problem with a new initiative called the Combating Redlining Initiative and taking many approaches to sort of try and create some more financial equality, like strengthening their working relationships with financial agencies to make sure like redlining, like they're like, oh, like we can identify what's happening here and referred to authorities, also increasing

coordination with state officials to weed out potential fair lending violations. But at the end of the day, like this, while this is a great thing, I think one of the biggest missing like facts that isn't talked about enough when you talk about like the income inequality or the just the huge differences that we have in financial outcomes for white Americans as it relates to more specifically to black Americans, but minorities as a whole, but I'll talk about black Americans. This relates specifically to chattel slavery, is that, you know, there have just been generations of black people who have been kept from attaining wealth. And this has been happening again since chattel slavery. And it's a huge contributing factor to the inequality we see today. Just like if you zoom out, right, and you look at the value of slaves, slavery, the 4 million slaves that were in the U.S. in 1860 were worth about $4 billion in 1860 time. In today's money, that would be close to $42 trillion. That's what the slaves were worth. OK, and then if you zoom out a little bit more and you say, well, what about the wages that potentially were kept or could have been paid to slaves, that comes out to about $20.3

trillion in wages if slavery was a wage gig rather than fucking slavery. So you're thinking these are massive amounts of money that were taken off the backs of the slave labor and now just put into all kinds of communities in the United States. You also look at the Homestead Act where people were given houses that were basically taken from Native Americans. That was mostly for white people. They say about 48 million people in the United States benefit from the Homestead Act, probably unbeknownst to them. And this is sort of the table that Black Americans were given a seat at. And that's the gap that Black you know, black people have had to overcome. And when you look at how redlining took another opportunity for upward social mobility away,

it becomes truly staggering as it relates to redlining in like the 50s and 60s. Though, like this is when most people's grandparents were buying homes and things like that. Percentages of house ownership went from 30 percent to 60 percent. But in that time, 98% of the home loans were given to white families. So at every stop, you're like, there's so much shit to overcome. And when you look at this redlining task force, I'm like, this is great. But also when you really think about what you are trying to, how you're trying to rebalance the scales, it's such a minuscule drop in the bucket, especially when you think

about the, you know, 40 acres and a mule that were promised to newly freed slaves as well, and how the government reneged on that. And there's that's also trillions of dollars in wealth that completely could have been in the hands of black families. Yeah. So it's just a very interesting thing to mull over as like the headline is merely talking about redlining without like, come on, give people like really the foundational understanding of like why this very interesting thing to mull over as like the headline is merely talking about redlining without like, come on, give people like really the foundational understanding of like why this needs to be addressed. So what are they going to do? I mean, in this instance, they're just saying we're going to do better about being taking, you know, discriminatory lending practices seriously.

But then that's what I'm saying. Like, I really want people to have the perspective of like, But then that's what I'm saying. Like, I really want people to have the perspective of like, well, here's the thing. Imagine if descendants of slaves were actually got were given some kind of reparations, you know, to just sort of reinforce this caste system very cynically. And now we're only getting to a point where like we're talking about just a drip in the bucket. Yeah. Yeah. The 42 trillion, like just to think about that, that 42 trillion dollars worth of, you know, value that was stolen from black slaves and that was used by the families the plantation owners the to become extremely wealthy and that money is still in those communities like yeah to this day like that's that it's it's a thing that's so foreign to americans like they'm reading this book, The History of Debt, the first 5,000 years, and the author, like, uses this phrase, a person who acts like he doesn't owe anything to anyone. And he's, like, would use it as, like, a self-evidently, like, thing that stupid or unvirtuous people would do.

And like, that's not a saying in America because that's almost like the American ideal. Like when you Google that in America, they're like, you don't know shit to anybody. Like there is people reinforcing that. And it's the idea that you, you know, we rewrite people's life stories for them or only listen to the parts of their life stories that involve them pulling themselves up by their bootstraps. This is what that Malcolm Gladwell book Outliers was about, is people who have advantages, they have their stories rewritten. So instead of focusing on the fact that Bill Gates was uniquely wealthy and in a school system that had the only computers where he could have learned programming as a kid, his story gets retold so that he is a college dropout who like made it from nothing to becoming Bill Gates. And it's just like so outside of the the American ideal to think about the fact that you are the result of a number of, you know, ancestors, people before you who got breaks or were robbing people. And like, that's just so hard for Americans to wrap their head around, I think specifically because we are founded on a country of you know slavery and so it's a thing it's a memory that they specifically don't want to have and therefore we've built our entire ethos around

the idea that we're all just starting from a blank slate yeah america started in 1920 don't look about anything before that right and i mean and i think that's why we're seeing just all of the the panic around like educating people and what it means to teach history in this country because it's it's about confronting the ugly shit that is part of your history that you have to learn from to be able to move past it to grow past it if you're gonna always make yourself ignorant of those things then you know like that saying goes you're doomed to repeat it and we are continuing to and still shrug like shrugging our shoulders like what's going on how do we still huh yeah you really helped me organize thoughts about just always

feeling like this is a more ahistorical culture that i'm in and i live here but i will say about reparations that also from like a foreign perspective it's really not a radical proposal when you are um when you have family who's been through the holocaust because you know my grandma would get reparations until she passed last year from germany so it's like, yeah, it has. Yeah. Yeah. It's not, it's not radical. It's not unheard of. It's just radical to the very like white supremacist sort of mindset of,

of Americans. Yeah. Because you have to, for that to happen, you have to acknowledge that the United States is where it's at because of chattel slavery. Like the amounts of wealth it untold them like no one even came close to the amount of money that was being made

with slaves in the united states like the south was like the most profitable tiny piece of land during that time because of all the the slavery and i think that's a huge part that you know it's like just like with anything with people like what's my white privilege like more than that american privilege or the foundation financially that the this whole thing is set up on is is so fucking ugly but again it's easier to just say like yeah it was just like a couple people were doing it it's not really like the the main engine financial engine of the country when it's exactly what it was. Yeah. So it sounds like this task force is not going to try to necessarily

deal with the sins of the past, but more like tackle what is still happening, like what's actively happening now with lenders. Is that is that right? Yeah. I mean, that's what it is. Yeah, exactly. Like this is what we can do now. But it's like one of these things where it's like somewhat the damage is so significant from everything else preceding it that it just feels it's really bad faith gesture to not truly observe that and say, wow, that's a lot of money that is owed to these people. Yeah. Because we basically just brought them over in bondage and extracted every last drop of value from these people's bodies. that her high school-aged son was being asked to read Toni Morrison's Beloved. And, like, she was the one making the ad about it.

She was the one who, she didn't say what the book was, but acted like that was pornography or, like, some sort of just violent, an act of violence when it's actually a Pulitzer Prize-winning, like, one of the great novels of all time. Based on actual events. Based on actual events, yeah. But that's violence to the American psyche

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along with amassing just obscene amounts of money yes you enough people just tell you you're great enough times and you're like well i'm probably great at this thing too that i haven't hey hand me that violin what is that a strativarius check this out yeah i just killed it you're like no that was that sucks man it's you know the bubble episode of 30 rock where john ham is so good looking that he thinks he's like a master chef and he's like here try my orange gatorade chicken and uh liz is like oh my god this fucking sucks man but like can't tell him because he's so good looking like it's that but times a billion because it's billionaires and everybody just gives their ass nonstop. And our latest entertaining example of this in the United States is Warren Buffett's right-hand

man, Charles Munger, who is offering to build a building for a university, but only if he gets to design it badly. I'm an architect and i'm a billionaire if you want this money i have to design it it's essentially the agreement that he has with uc santa barbara if you've been to uc santa barbara's campus it's fucking beautiful it's like on this it's like on a seaside bluff and shit and you're like god why didn't i go here i'm homesick and i just wanted to stay in la but anyway he's apparently going to be contributing 1.5 billion dollars to build this fucking dorm massive dorm complex or building and his whole thing is you know this isn't his first foray into dorm design either you know because obviously wealthy people giving money to a college and being like name building after me is normal.

Like that's just how business is done. So he's done it at Stanford and also the University of Michigan. And again, he was saying like, I've got these ideas, man, these architectural ideas that I want to see manifest into these buildings that I will pay for. And the Stanford residents, they seem pretty straightforward. Apparently, they're described as normal apartments. The Michigan Hall and the one at UCSB, most people describe that as, quote, most bedrooms don't have windows. And you're like, wait, huh?

Hold on. I thought you had a very, very like, what was your vision here? And Munger himself, he says that these buildings, quote, have a focus on providing ample interactive spaces for students, minimizing costs by maximizing the number of beds on a given site, employing the concept of repeatability. What is repeatability? Oh, that it looks the same over and over again? Right. And if you look down at a very crude sketch of what this building looks like, it looks like a fucking prison. You're like, these just look like a bunch of cells organized around like this central corridor. We're failing to see what is truly transformative about this design, especially as it has no windows either. I mean, don't take our expert architectural opinion on this. The architectural expert who was in charge of consulting on UCSB's projects, Dennis McFadden, resigned from the university's review committee

and in his resignation letter noted that because of Munger's project, he resigned and noted that this building would qualify as the eighth densest neighborhood on the planet, falling just short of Dahaka, Bangladesh. Yeah. So. So. But how did he get into business of designing dorm buildings? Like what inspired him it sounds like if you if you have the money to be like i'm gonna design this you might choose like a different like a movie theater or like an exciting right i don't know i think he truly believes that he has this like

vision that is going to shift the paradigm of design because again I think as it relates to his wealth, you are the right hand of like Warren Buffett, the wizard of Omaha. And I'm sure in your mind, you're starting to get it be like, man, like I can't lose. I haven't made a bad financial decision in like 80 straight years. How could this not extend to building design? Because he's probably doing the thing that all Americans get to do when they get rich which is rewrite their story so that every one of those financial victories was like a underdog story that they just like pulled out because they're a genius instead of like yeah you started out working for warren buffett built up enough wealth that you were able to take advantage of a rigged

system over and over again but and also yeah desperate the desperation of you know fight like educational institutions because they're like these on these ridiculous profit models where they're like they're courting money to be like yeah we got to improve this i guess we'll let this fucking idiot be like hey man i got these ideas i'm the next book in frank lloyd right i got a dollars. You're like, great. And then as back to that thing about McFadden, the architect that resigned, he was just like very just straightforward points out to he's like, also, the university provided no justification for ignoring well-established research that natural light and views of the outdoors are vital to healthy living.

But they were just saying like, well, the thing is we're bound to Munger's vision because that's the agreement. And this is in America, the argument against taxing billionaires is they do so much good though. Like when they donate, like the Langone Medical Center, Ken Langone, the guy behind Home Depot, like he, he did that. And just because he also is racist every day of his life just because he was racist and demands that we let him do every third open heart

surgery until he gets good at it uh has nothing to do with the you know it's like oh my god it's free money man free money right what do you he's, I just saw Patch Adams, man. I could fucking do that, man. I could be a pediatrician. I can get laughs from kids. Do I have any medical training? No. But I have a billion dollars and your funding is dire. So what's it going to be?

It is really like, well, just, I don't know. That's something that we should like do a whole series on is just like people thinking that their skills at one thing will translate to something else and just how the dunning kruger cast yeah it almost never ever becomes like somebody on twitter tagged me in a video of dj khaled playing a guitar that he did from the bob marley thing and they're like yo what's your take on this and i looked at dude dj khaled can't play a fucking guitar and he's like yo thank you so much like no chord nothing it's out of tune he's just like open strumming but then like half touching the frets and he was acting like he was fucking like Bunny Whaler or some shit.

You know what I mean? Like, what the fuck? This man is dead ass serious looking at the camera like he's giving people the performance of his life. And I'm like, this Dunning-Kruger guitar solo right here. He truly, again, he's like, I can't lose when it comes to music, even if I quite literally don't know how to play this instrument. That's a good podcast. Also, at what point in your life are you supposed to stop

trying new things? At least enough to know to respect the outside opinions. At least not publicly try them. I feel like you could do a whole show. I'm fascinated with the architecture in Dubai. There's this one YouTube channel where like

like city planners or architects are just destroying dubai they're like this place makes no fucking sense at all like they're like first of all look at where this like just like the most basic things they're pointing out you're like damn but again you're talking to people who are so fucking wealthy and their whole thing is like we have the biggest sky piercing phallic building on earth i don't give a shit about sustainability or building practices then you get these like weird half thought out places that are just being like this thing's gonna be like just a total disaster in a few years yeah when my wife was in medical school at mizzou and it was around the time that they were opening this new arena that was gifted to them by the Waltons, you know, the Walmart heirs. And they named it after their daughter.

I forget what her name was, but. I sound like Cassidy. Right. The Cassidy Sports Arena. And like right as they were about to open it her like somebody came out and was she was like still like she graduated college two years before and somebody came out was like yeah i wrote all her papers for her she just paid me to write all her papers for her and she didn't even go to mizzou so already it was like what the fuck are

y'all doing what yeah it's? Yeah, it's wild, man. Dude, people had too much fucking money, man. Too much money. Yeah. Yeah, but God forbid they actually just fucking pay their taxes and were able to. No, I'm in a basketball arena after my newly graduated daughter from a different school. Yeah. All right, let's talk about the Squid Game Moral Panic.

I have finished Squid Game. Miles, you have finished Squid Game. We're going to talk about the Squid Game Moral Panic. I have finished Squid Game. Miles, you have finished Squid Game. We're going to talk about it on a future episode. But for any Zite gang who are kind of muddling their way through, next couple days we're going to do a dive into our feelings on Squid Game. I haven't watched it, sorry. No, it's good. Oh, no worries.

We're going to hold it. We're going to give them fair warning. Let them get caught up. This will be a spoiler-free discussion of the show. You have a basic understanding of the show, right? Mm-hmm. Okay. Oh, no, I don't.

Sorry. Oh, okay. Okay. Do you know anything about it? No, I don't. Well, I know people like it. Right. But I haven't tapped. I don't. Well, I know people like it. Right. And I haven't tapped into it at all.

For many reasons. It's it's a very like, you know, violent, but poignant to like critique on capitalism and things like that. And just and I think because of the current tone on Earth, it's just become the most popular show ever that Netflix has had. popular show ever that Netflix has had. And I think now and just generally now, because like you're saying, like even you as someone who hasn't seen it, like you have an idea because there's just so many memes and articles that just by osmosis, you probably have a general idea. So the ultimate sign that it has become important in the culture is that it has created a moral panic across the globe. so people are up in arms parents in particular because there's evidence of kids imitating the games from the show in real

life which would be a little bit more concerning if they weren't all literally schoolyard games for children like that the point of the show is that they make these contestants play schoolyard games for children. But the stakes are your life. The stakes are you die. But yeah, everywhere from Canada to the UK to Australia, this is apparently considered a problem. And it's really amazing. It's really having to bend over backwards to come up with a reason to be offended by this show right is it because they're like i mean because they i'm i'm presuming

they don't have firearms like in the tv show no there's just like playing the game like one kid came home and like told their mom that like people were saying they were playing squid game games on the playground and the mom was like terrified but squid game games are red light green light like and fucking marbles like it's not it's games that i played in gym class yeah there's not like fashion a shiv out of a popsicle stick and buck 50 your classmate like that's not a great game what there was one example a belgian school issued a warning because a student said they were playing the game and then punching each other, punching the person who lost, which again, not great, but again, a thing that all kids do and have done since the beginning of time. banning squid game costumes from their halloween celebration because of the violent message aligned with the costume which i i dressed like i talked about this on an episode last week i dressed as fucking like somebody who had been murdered basically every day for every halloween costume

like you're just like soldiers like you dress yeah like they're characters from movies who kill people. I think this is the thing, right? This is part of the American psyche. You can't look at a soldier and think of foreign policy and imperialism. You look at that and you go, that's a job. That's an army guy. Yeah. Because I have no concept for these other things.

Yeah, it's just funny that with Squid game it's like the violence i mean the like the other meme that is was taking people by storm this halloween was a bunch of memes of young children hugging michael myers like that was one like yeah michael myers from halloween there were a bunch of viral videos of like, adorable. This kid is hugging Michael Myers, who just to reiterate, is only famous as a character who butcher knives teenagers to death. Oh, he's not a he's not a child development specialist. Right. And misunderstood preschool teacher. teacher and to your point about about soldiers i you know people are acting like this is unprecedented that like adult culture like adult violent culture would uh trickle down to children i grew up watching rambo the force of freedom which was a cartoon in which like

where the in which the protagonist was Rambo the character from our rated movies who like just murders people where there's like a body count of thousands yeah so you know I think I think this is a real double standard where you know I think people would be less concerned about this if all these things weren't attached to a show that is a critique of late stage capitalism that's pretty poignant you know is it also because it's not american maybe well yeah i think probably like look yell with america there's all i would always bet on xenophobia big time uh whenever if that's an option yeah but yeah i mean i think that's what's really interesting is like like you're saying like there were kids who like looked like a they had like a fucking

saw blade in their fucking head yeah and they're like taking a spelling test and like oh that's cute and that's why i'm really curious what exactly are they saying like where's the consistency if they're even able to articulate it or because on some level i do also just count on some school people to just be like not really know what the show is about they just heard like like oh my god it's so violent and then they're just like that's not good for kids and then that being the only reason without then taking the thought experiment further to be like well i guess that uh derek chauvin costume was okay from those other kids like what the fuck is this yeah and i mean this is this is also like parents being outraged about something that is

popular like is an age-old tradition around the world from comic books there's like a gay panic around comic books video games dungeons and dragons to the works of Charles Dickens. Victorians worried that racy novels were causing children to grow up too fast and robbing them of their childhood. And it was, you know, they just wanted them to read the Bible and not Charles Dickens. That was the thing. Well, the Bible was pretty violent, too. Exactly.

At least my Bible. I don't know about the New Testament. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm sure it's pretty violent. Oh, you got to check out the New Testament if you like violence. There's some freaky shit towards the end. Real freaky shit towards the end. But, you know, just let the kids play. You know, I remember my school, they tried to ban like West Side Connection. Oh, really? Yeah. Because they're like, but that's more, but that's more i think racist too right we don't want them doing black stuff yeah because i was famously reprimanded for throwing up west side in a classic photo oh right yeah yeah front everyone tore up the picture but in front of god and everyone in front of god and everyone and i say you know what god is a og and he holds it down for it. West side.

Well, Yael, it's been such a pleasure having you. Yeah. And now I want to watch the show. I will watch it now. Nice. Where can people find you and follow you? Well, as I said, I'm no longer on Instagram or Facebook, but I'm still on Twitter.

Yes, the health food of social networks, right? Right. Yeah. I'm just not very active, but I am still on Twitter. Yes, the health food of social networks, right? Right. Yeah, I'm just not very active, but I am still there. I'm at Yael Evenor. So it's just my name in a row. That's it. Boom. Not a lot of Yael Evenor out there, I don't think so.

Yeah. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Yeah. Well, I don't know I've been enjoying but there's this tweet it's really their responses to that tweet that someone tweeted the other day i think i think this user is like 18 according to their bio and they tweeted i done two covid tests and i'm negative but i feel so ill and cold. WTF. Anyone else had this? And then everyone is just like, just bashing her for like, whatever happened to common cold?

Like people forgot that it exists. Like RIP common cold. And it's really funny. Just like 800 like quote tweets. And she's like, LOL, didn't expect that reaction. I guess it is cold. Like it's just,

and it's kind of true. Like I remember the beginning of the pandemic that it was more like, you know, I would talk to my mom and I'm like, are you being careful? Because I would hear a cough. And she's like, people cough before coffee, just relax. But now it's just kind of like, I do the same thing. Every time I feel slightly ill, I'm just like, I have COVID. Yeah, it happens. Miles, where can people find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of gray also the other show for 20 day fiance where we're talking 90 day fiance with uh sophie alexandra so come through with that man there's been so many good tweets where do i even begin let's start with this one this is from at nurse chocs c-h-o-c-s tweeted i

love irregular texters because there's a mutual understanding between us that it's okay to text back five days later with no bad vibes. That is me. That's me, baby. It's not bad vibes. I just have a fucked up relationship with my phone and I don't like using it all the time. And then another one from Yedoye, past guest, at Yedoye underscore, tweeted, the plural of kid Cuddy is kids Cuddy. So I just want to put that out there for everybody. All right.

It's good to know. A little grammar lesson. Let's see. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien. I was enjoying a lot of the Mark Zuckerberg, you know, responses. Let's see if somebody tweeted. Ben Acker tweeted, that ought to do it. And then I attribute that to Mark Zuckerberg.

Yeah, file's done. Alex Kerr tweeted a screencap from the Metaverse video and said, still thinking about when Mark Zuckerberg said this. And then the closed captioning makes it look like he's saying, if you die in the metaverse, you die in real life. And then John Merriman tweeted, look, I've said it before, and I'll

say it again. I say things three times. I just like that. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and our website, dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes.

We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy today? Man, I messed up. I should have suggested this song before Halloween, but

I just want to go out on a on a spooky track this is viernes 13 you know friday the 13th a very spooky track by the latin rap god vico c people say the father of reggaeton but this is an old school track i just love the production and the spanish language rapping and it's talking about Jason and shit and it's just dope this is like such a great retro texture sonically so let's go out on this bye

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