The Daily Zeitgeist - Bentonville So Chill? FyreFest 2.0! 08.24.23

Episode Date: August 24, 2023

In episode 1537, Jack and special guest host Nick Turner are joined by writer/showrunners Alyson Levy & Alissa Nutting to discuss… The new capital of cool: Bentonville, AR?, FyreFest giving it another go, and so much more! Bentonville: The new capital of cool FYRE FESTIVAL 2.0 LISTEN: Noname - RainforestSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Turner guess it's true I'm not Miles I'm a one night stand. But I still need love because I'm a different man. These pods never seem to go to plan. I don't want you to leave. Miles, hold my hand. Oh, won't you gray with me?

Cause you're all I miss. There's more. I mean, there's not more than I planned. But stay with me. It's good to see you. Jack, what a joy. What a, just a light of positive energy. Oh,

it was wonderful to have you here, Nick Turner. And that was beautiful. I didn't know you had that in you. I didn't know your, your vocal range. Well, you did.

Got that soulful. I think this is like my 10th time singing on this show. And if you don't know by now, but that was, that was maybe a high point. I got to say, thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Anyways, Nick, we are fortunate, blessed, but that was that was maybe a high point i gotta say thank you thank you thank you anyways nick we are fortunate blessed thrilled to be joined by two very funny writers uh season two of their adult swim show teenage euthanasia is out now please welcome alissa nutting and allison levy hey what's up guys thanks for having us yeah yes yeah we're we are well he didn't want uh you know two people uh usually but uh he wanted someone to offset me today so we needed two i i didn't write any songs i didn't that's okay okay it's not expected It's just something that we like to do to express ourselves up top and let the guests know that we are not serious people. We are fools. How are you guys doing? Where are you coming to us from? We're bi-coastal. I'm in LA. Okay. I've heard of it.

Yeah, I'm in New York City. That's Allison in New. Okay. I've heard of it. Yeah, I'm in New York City. That's Allison. In New York City. Yes. I'm in sort of Sunset Park, Brooklyn. There you go. Sunset Park. I spent some time there. It's rough. Rough in the 90s. Sunset Park. What time is it?

Oh, it's 248. Oh, no. There's a rap song that says, Sunset Park. What time? Nope. Yeah, it's 248. Oh, no. There's a rap song that says, Sunset Park, what time? Yeah, it's 248. Actually, Sunset Park's the only place I ever called 911. I lived in a couple apartments

in Sunset Park. Hey, congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. I was cornered in a bakery by some youths. You know, the young kids, you know, they, they figured it out. I assume. So once through, um, Kiwis at my, at my friend and he,

he was really, he wanted to know how much they had paid for the Kiwis. How could they afford to throw such expensive fruit but it is yeah so yeah maybe season they're cheaper how did how do they do in terms of like i feel like the the best projectile to throw at someone is an egg right but like that thing you get you have the rotten tomatoes because in terms of like burst ability how i feel like a kiwi would kind of retain its structural integrity a little too well i i find the exterior of the kiwi to be uh like the texture i find very unpleasant like if someone were to hold me down and forcibly rub a kiwi kind of across my arm that yeah that would feel that would really be a way to punish me um more than throwing it at me yeah i prefer a nice clean shaven fruit i don't i don't need the whiskers you can eat a kiwi outside though did you know that have you ever seen anyone do

that i grew up like my mom did that. But you can also eat a banana peel. You don't want to. You can eat a shoe. That's a good point. People still love it. It reminds me of the people who eat the whole apple. And I'm just like, I don't. Alright, man. You got a thing.

Clearly, that's your thing. And that's good. Good for you. But I don't need it. Aly your thing and that's good good for you but i don't i don't need it all right alissa allison we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about i want to talk about bentonville arkansas for some reason um there's like a wall street journal article uh i'll just read the headline for the wall street journal article this small ozarks town m- home to walmart headquarters m- is becoming a new capital of cool i just want to talk about this from a philosophical perspective we'll talk about uh the fire festival all of that plenty more but, Allison and Alyssa, what is something from your search histories that is revealing about who you are?

Well, I just bought a Cooking with Columbo recipe book. Wow. I'm very excited about, I just started re-watching Columbo from season one. It really holds up. It's a real sort of like tour de force of classism. You know, you get to watch rich people go to jail. You know, he's like rumply and humble and just has a lot of characteristics. I feel, you know, we could use right now.

This is wild. Yesterday's search history was also somebody talking about searching for Columbo. No way. Like being obsessed with Columbo. Get out. Yeah, Jakey Von Stratton.

It's in the zeitgeist. It really is. Poker Face is inspired by Columbo. We already had this conversation yesterday. Oh shit. I'm sorry. Also talked about poker face. Also talked about how it's like the origin of like all really great TV

writers. Like the family tree can be traced back to Columbo, but I did not know that there was like a classist sort of rich people going to jail vibe to it so yeah the murderers are so far i'm i'm you know still still in season one but they're all very wealthy and they often say things like you know to colombo like uh you know i imagine this would be a bit out of your price range and you know like burns like that yeah and the other day was calculating how he would have to work for like 90 years without eating just to live in you know one guy's house for a year yeah damn all right you know what after

yesterday's search history i was like i know what colombo is i've known what colombo is uh but now i think i'm gonna start watching colombo so thank you for that watching colombo too this is i have a bad theory on why that's what all the colombo i've never seen even an episode of colombo but I have a theory about why all the killers are rich people. It's because they only wanted to hire white people in all those parts.

And then they were like, well, what could all these white people, like they have to all be fancy and be killers because otherwise it'd be too like typical or something. I don't want to watch Columbo anymore. Would that be like

yeah, like where is that on like the progressive scale if you're hiring them because you're acknowledging you know like the white people are the worst evil, but you're also restricting acting roles. Yeah. Well, if all of the protagonists are white

people as well uh maybe not great um yeah but you you could have remember when like diversity was uh just uh making white gang members right that was what the diversity was that a gang a gang was like two white people two black black guys, two Latinos. And they're like, oh, that's not the diversity. That wasn't it. Okay. Yeah. The other way.

Allison, what's something from your search history? Mine's also, mine's a movie. So Joe Firestone, who's on our show and is a stand-up comedian, people should know. So her and I, we were trying to figure out what to do on Friday night and I like to make people go to the movies because I like going to the movies and I like to see

old movies in the theater. So I gave her a bunch of suggestions. I did a big research of all the old movies in theaters in New York. Like old movies that like came out two, three weeks ago. Is that what you mean?

No, like, I don't know what they call it. Like even four weeks ago? Yeah. Yeah. Like a third row? And so one of my favorite movies is playing. It's called Content. It's Bridget Bardot, Godard movie.

And so I said, Joe, do you want to see this? And she said, is it scary? Like just literally, I said, Joe, you should watch what just watch the trailer. And so then I sent her that. That was also in my search history. And we are going. I gave her a bunch of there was a there's a lot of really good revival movie theaters right now in the city playing all kinds of things but i'm very excited i haven't seen it in the theater in a long time so i'm excited we're going friday night this is something i want to call out about los angeles is los angeles i think we talked about this also on yesterday's episode that like los angeles really prides itself on having like old movie theaters that show old movies but like other cities have

that too i'm pretty sure like new york city's got a lot of them i think yeah well you sound like someone who's never lived in new york jack oh do i everything's cooler in new york even if it exists somewhere else yeah no. No, I know. It's the best. Allison, what is something that you think is overrated? I'm having a tough time deciding between two things. One is the summer. I really don't care for it.

Like start to finish. Don't like. Probably our most common answer to overrated. And then the second, then okay. The Duplass brothers. Actually, I'm going to expand it. Any brother-related teen. Interesting.

I don't care for that. Always overrated. Always more than you need. Always overrated. Always more than you need. For some reason, people around the world love to see brothers doing things together. I guess that's cute for them or something, but not me. I don't care for it.

There's that whole twin-cest thing with brothers that happens. I don't know about that. Wait, I have a brother brother what am i doing wrong she just said that that people love to see brothers doing things and i was you think it's like a fetish no no no i was just bringing up that like there's a there's a pornographic contingent to the phenomenon alice is speaking of i was just giving further supporting evidence i thought i was being helpful. I think it's an interesting theory that the Coen brothers are the result of everybody being like, what if those two brothers had sex with each other? Like, deep down, that's really what everyone's interested in.

I don't know. I think they just think it's so fun that these brothers want to work together still. But they're brothers! Yeah yeah i don't know people really get a hang of it yeah yeah but uh i also recently uh realized that joel cohen was one of the writers of toy story as was um joss whedon and i just thought wow that was before i knew i didn't know that yeah um joseph whedon yes yes but were there like 25 writers of toy story no there's four there's only wow um but for like an animated movie you know that's that's not that bad and ethan colin went out on his own and directed garfield um yeah different et different yes i okay but um

in a group of brothers like when there's four or five brothers you know there's never more than two talented ones it's just like a gang mentality you just see so many people come and you're like whoa look at all this talent but it's still just the one or two guys it's still only alec baldwin and maybe a little daniel baldwin he's still saddled with a lot of brothers out there yeah the uh hughes brothers the um who made menace to society and then like immediately or and then they made dead presidents and then split up yeah there there's a lot of there is just something that people are like god it would be so fun if these brothers like kept doing stuff together yeah people are

excited there's new brothers i didn't see the movie but that it's not called talk to the hand but whatever that movie's called those has australian brothers behind it yes and and i and people really like that one i could tell talk to me yeah wait you could tell from the trailer the brothers had made it yeah they listed their same name okay i thought you meant like you said you saw the first frames and you're like wait a second i'm getting a five from the sexiest brothers they're rarely sexy rarely are the. They're more often sexy. All right. But they don't work together that much, those brothers, right?

They happen to be brothers that both... I don't have a problem with that. Like, if your brother is also out there... Okay, if you don't work together. I don't enjoy the brothers that work together as a team. I find that to be overrated, was the question. What about if they have different names like Estevez and Sheen? Can they work together?

I don't. I'm sure America wants them to. Then it works. Beach Boys, not a fan. We don't like the Beach Boys. Fuck the Beach Boys. Right? we can all agree on that i like brian wilson but i don't know his brother seems to be a bit of a pill yeah uh alissa what is something you think is overrated well i'm not gonna say new york okay um sounds like you were gonna say new york okay um sounds like you were gonna say no no you just all clearly are big fans

um i think showering for me showering um it just feels very um like punitive it feels kind of like a there's no dignity in it um you know, it feels like a punishment. Cold. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't enjoy it. It's so boring. I mean, it's mind-numbing. That's a huge thing. It really, like, rips you out of your routine. You know, it's hard to have a fluid thought, you know, coming from, like, the desk into the shower and back out i mean it's just like uh

this like assault of the senses and yeah um i get a lot of fluid thoughts like get this fluid off of me right yeah i feel like showering there's too many thoughts like i i don't know you're like kind of alone with your thoughts which can be a good thing and a bad thing but like i yeah and you're also like oh right this is my body right yeah it's like a hard it's a moment it's a time for hard truths yeah it's a very corporeal experience yeah just like you're watching things like go down and drain you know like everything's like suddenly a metaphor truly yeah it's also one of the last places you can't use your phone and so that you know that really irks me it's like that i think showering and um getting your haircut the only two places now you can't use your phone left you can't use your phone when

you get your haircut do you use your phone do You can't use your phone when you get your haircut. Do you use your phone? Do you like scroll through your phone when you're getting a haircut? I just hire someone to hold it in front of my face for me and scroll. I say scroll. Yes. It reads my eyes. Yeah. Um,

no, it's rude, I guess. But if it's not rude, I'm doing it. I'm starting it. No, no,

I definitely don't. Unless like somebody, like there's something happening like i'm getting messages or something otherwise yes i find it rude like i am such a people pleaser that i like getting my haircut is an intensely uncomfortable experience for me because i'm just like oh god what do i say what do i do what do i like and yeah i just like want whoever's cutting my hair to like me for some reason. It's a bad scene.

It's a bad scene in there. All right. Should we take a quick break and come back and do Underrated? Let's do that. Let's take a little break. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving

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whatever you know that can be me time for sure i think maybe like if the haircut was less of a um like if there if there was more downtime in between but like for me it's like a half hour constantly being worked on thing like if they were like come in they were like okay i'm gonna cut and then like leave this like are they cutting your hair for four hours when you get a haircut they're doing a lot of the hair yeah they're doing a lot to it well all right i'm gonna start using my phone when i when i get my just try it just see i don't know i mean it probably works for trump you know i bet he yeah there's also probably like like a price of haircut like if

you're spending three hundred dollars on a haircut you look at your phone yeah i do i do look at my phone to look at my phone that's fair i mean i don't i don't want to you know i don't want it to seem like the like you know my stylist would be like crying because she just lost custody of her children. And I'm like, not now, you know, it's not that kind of vibe. It's like they have lives of their own, you know, they're talking to other stylists, you know, they're checking their phone as the processing is happening. Um, it's a real, I, yeah, I, I feel like we've all kind of agreed upon it you know it seems like a community yeah a community thing

yeah it sounds like maybe I'm wrong on this one and I can just start using my phone which is great Zyking let us know if you have strong opinions one way or the other on using the phone when getting a haircut Allison if you have strong opinions one way or the other uh on on using the phone when getting a haircut allison do you have anything that you think is underrated i do it's i guess uh i really

more than i thought and probably more than some people i really like watching a man sing a song. And it can go a lot of ways. And I recently, my friend suggested we go to this diner that was way out kind of in the Rockaways in Brooklyn. And there was a man in this diner in their chandelier room that did a Elvis impersonation at like 7 p.m. on Saturday. And there was people he he encouraged people to dance and sing with him. And he just sung basically Elvis songs and other songs from long ago. And it was incredibly fun just a very i had zero expectations and was actually sort of dreading it and then it was it was truly like a delightful evening there there were most of the people in there were around 80 years old and and then there was just some other completely it was the most brook Brooklyn thing I'd done in a while.

And like real Brooklyn, not gentrified Brooklyn. But, yeah, it was I highly suggest it. And it was incredibly underrated. It was at the New Floridian Diner out on Flatbush. And anyone listening, I couldn't recommend it more. What is a chandelier room? It was just a part of this diner that had a giant chandelier in it. They kept the lights on the whole time. And they did have alcohol, which as soon as I got there, that was my very first question. And then it was like two hours we were in there.

It was like a special menu that was in the chandelier room. Anyway. Yeah. It was really fun. I think this works nicely to transition us into Bentonville, Arkansas, because Bentonville, Arkansas, as mentioned, this small Ozarks town happens to be home of Walmart headquarters is becoming the new capital of cool. This is a Wall Street Journal article.

Wall Street Journal, as we've frequently talked about on the show, is where we go to find out what is cool. Well, it's on the streets. You know, they tell you what's happening in the streets. So I don't know. It just, it triggered a lot for me in just this idea, because it seems like, okay, they had a plan. This is where the Waltons live. They want people to forgive them for what they've done, you know, hoarding a immoral amount of wealth.

uh you know hoarding a immoral amount of wealth and so they're going to turn their hometown into brooklyn essentially like feels like what they're going for they're like we're gonna do an art museum we're gonna like lure all these michelin star chefs down here and this article just takes it at face value and is like yes let's do it this place is great um i'm just going to read some direct quotes and then i just want to open it up uh open the floor up but the reason i think that the diner with the chandelier room transitions nicely is because it's it's's a very Brooklyn thing that I feel like they wouldn't think like the Waltons would not see the appeal of that in trying to create their cultural hotspot. But all right, this is from the wall street journal author. I had my reasons to take a closer look. My husband, James, and I live in the Denver suburbs

and crave a little culture. We also have a for visiting stop you there so people from the denver suburbs also wrote the article yes the the denver suburbs that's a very important thing her husband's name is james uh also we will find out their son's name is guy we also have a thing for visiting small towns because they tend to be more navigable for us, parents of a toddler, than a megalopolis. Bentonville, which celebrates its 150th anniversary this year, seemed to fit the bill. It also happens to be where Sam Walton opened Walton's 5 and 10 in 1950. What a coincidence. Today, it's home to Walmart's corporate headquarter. Yes, I wrote that by sight. I said, what a weird coincidence that it happens to be where Sam Walton opened his store.

So she also writes, so off we went for a long weekend with our three-year-old son, Guy. She really wants you to know the names of the people in her family. We flew in on Thursday afternoon during torrential rains to a rolling Kelly green countryside that looked like the ryegrass fields of ireland maybe she just really wanted to hit his gender it's my son he's a guy guy get over it yes um what is that illegal now yeah um i'm triggered i just i love them trying to put like the grass in an Arkansas company town in the context of like the Irish countryside. Like it just, like they just want to cram something like natural and unspoiled into like, maybe they did pay them to write this article.

into like maybe they did pay them to write this article i'm i'm very curious but like it seems like it is part of a long-standing long-term plan by them that has just been they've been beating people over the head with it like there's things on social media all about this town they're flying people in from the Denver suburbs. From the Denver suburbs, just piping people in. Let me continue. Bentonville, home to 57,868 people as of July 2022, continues to grow into what feels like a company town as envisioned by Norman Rockwell and the curators of MoMA,

which a devastating sentence that I don't think they intended to be devastating. by Norman Rockwell and the curators of MoMA, which a devastating sentence that I don't think they intended to be devastating. The second annual format festival from September 22nd to 24th will mix art and music at the Momentary, a satellite venue to Crystal Bridges, which is like some brunch spot

that they went to earlier. Scheduled acts include Leon Bridges, LCD Sound System, and Alanis Morissette. Bentonville, it turns out, and this is the thesis statement, is a bit of a Coolsville, but so far as I can see, without a whiff of pretension.

Okay, yeah, this was designed to rile you up. Most people do want to take their three-year-old to look at fine art. I mean, that's the usual place you take your three-year-old to look at fine art i mean that that's that usual place you take your three-year-old on vacation must be super fun um for them but uh i just i i have heard about i don't know much about this but they've been collecting art a long time the waltons like other you know wealthy people and then they reach a point the wealthy where they just decide they

need to like build their own museum and i've been to a few of these around the world of just wealthy people who they usually are in kind of weird places. Right. But I think I just I'm curious if they collect any art by people that are alive, the Waltons, or is it all because that could be kind of messy. You may get on the wrong side of what the Waltons or is it all, cause that can be kind of messy and they get on the wrong side of what the Waltons are all about. But if they only collect dead artists, I guess it makes it a lot easier. Wait,

what's the complication there? Cause I, you know, I was thinking of the Broad here in Los Angeles when you said, you know, just the wealthy guy has too much art and opens it up. But I know that he commissioned a lot of art from people who are alive. But why is that messy?

Because you're then making art for Walmart, and you may be an artist that has opinions that run south of the thousands of things that you could have a problem with Walmart about. Maybe you say those things out loud. I don't know. I would just assume they don't want too much dissension over at walmart headquarters but maybe i'm wrong maybe they love it yeah why would an artist care about walmart like if anything like they probably aspire to like have their paintings put on trapper keepers and like you know things like different school supplies like i feel like that would be cool for an artist yeah i want to get my art on a on an air fryer whoever owns the

keith herring estate right now like oh they are cleaning up every single place well that's yeah the brode is like currently you know it's the biggest la art museum and also it has a herring exhibit right now It's certainly the hottest. That's the word you use. The herring IP. It's on everything. Literally everything. I'm just a little worried about going to Bentonville because there's not that many people in it. So you would assume there's like 1% of the places Waltons.

And as we all know, Waltons are allowed to kill people while drunk driving and get away with it. And so I'm just really like nervous for my kids down there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I lived in Columbia, Missouri, uh, at a time when there was a local scandal because the basketball arena was named after one of their daughters who, as they were doing the naming of the basketball arena, it was revealed that she had just like paid for her classmates to write all her papers for her in college. But that's like what they do is they just like taken all the money from any

honest business around the country, just like come through and like just sucked it up from like those communities and then they've used it to rename things around the country after themselves and that's kind of how the how the system works and then they they've also like taken over their home city and they they claim to be the mountain bike capital of the United States. Bentonville. Bentonville. It is completely flat. There's like,

there's an article in, uh, on Reddit, on the subreddit, our Arkansas. They're like, it's kind of weird that they, uh,

self claiming the mountain bike capital title is a bit laughable since Bentonville is as flat as the Arkansas Delta. We might have to rename the mountain bike the cool bike. Yes. I think so. I don't know. The Wall Street Journal says it's cool. Like, right.

It's got to be. I don't know. That is a large degree of culture today or a large part of culture today is like people traveling and like going to art museums and like rich people can just like so. And I guess this has always been true, but like like this just very specific example of like, oh, but it's like it has so many cute brunch places and like really cool art. and like really cool art like you just trying to create like a cultural hotbed out of thin air while you are the worst fucking people um is just it's it's interesting also um they're like i don't know how much they're taking into account uh how much you need nightlife to get people to come to a place and you need to like set up it's going to be bachelorette parties and it's just like you can't have one without the other right right i'm

guessing there's not a thriving like underground comedy scene in bentonville oh no there's only three mics there yeah is bentonville like on the thunder down under tour circuit or like a year a year okay it feels like um when you go to palm springs you're dry like from la you're driving in the desert for an hour and then suddenly for some reason there's a jungle in the middle of the desert where they've just sucked up all the water from everywhere. They have all the money and all the water and you could have trees. And all the brunch. There's so much brunch there. And the brunch.

Anyways, guys, mark it down on your bucket list. Bentonville, Arkansas. I feel like an author needs to go there for a week and just take acid and see what is revealed about that place. Yeah, an author from the suburbs of Boise or something. Yeah, something like someone who's real, like from the suburbs of Boise. She could have just said Denver. She could have just said Denver.

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and then subsequently went to jail for it. And this one will feature amenities such as Snot Clear and musical acts that are as yet unspecified. The website has narrowed the dates down to sometime in 2024, probably end of 2024. He's got to talk to his PO. Yeah. The website just lists the location as the Caribbean, complete with a Google Maps link to the Caribbean.

See? Like, just that. the Caribbean complete with a Google maps link to the Caribbean. See, like just that, that's, that's all. When you click on it, it's just like, yeah, this is geographically.

This is what the Caribbean looks like. And the first hundred tickets have already sold out. Yeah. So this is, I can expect the previous stories. Like, I feel like this Bentonville is going to fool a lot of people. If this is

fooling people i think it's like maybe the genius most genius marketing i've seen uh in a while just like putting out a hundred tickets for five hundred dollars each that he could easily buy himself and then say okay we sold out the first round and then now there's articles in every paper in the country and it's brilliant yeah do they have any like wedding packages i'm just wondering yeah they should do divorces like quick ones like how people would go to reno and you could get a divorce like in 24 hours i would that could be a good destination thing they could have there yeah as part of the fire fest yeah that's good yeah yeah i hope that tent's set up uh cbs news uh did did some follow-up work and interviewed some of the people who bought tickets um they said if anything it'll just be a really cool vacation our main concern is that we

don't know if big headliners will be willing to you know take that risk to be in something so controversial uh we're gonna stay optimistic like we're worried about them like not we're clear that we're good we're not worried about you know whether this thing's gonna actually happen or not but what about the headliners they might for some reason be skeptical that this thing might might not go off without a hitch i think he's gonna get blink i think they're coming back i'd do it that's like the biggest thing they've had in a while i just remember all that like weren't people like locked in an airport with no food like yeah the cheese sandwiches that yeah like i don't think the the biggest problem was headliners not showing up right i think that was like somewhere down on the

list yeah of issues yeah they almost had to suck a dick to get enough water so that people like didn't die on the island i I met that guy. Andy King? He's back in, by the way. Public appearances afterwards. I saw him at a thing. Is he on Cameo? I really like him. Oh, he's got to be.

I would get a Cameo. Yeah. He has signed up for another Fyre Fest claiming that it will be the ultimate redemption. I mean, you do something that shakes the world and there's nothing you're going to be a part of that's going to be like such a fun thing even though i mean in retrospect it has to have been like i'm glad i did i was part of that that's really cool yeah and i'm not billy mcfarland that's like the best part yeah i i'd love that he can't stop you know um

i don't know i just find that so interesting about about people sometimes how they they really want to they just live to get money for selling experiences that um aren't valid aren't actually experienceable he also started like a ponzi scheme involving concert tickets and like tickets to like events that didn't even have like the Oscars or something. He loves doing this. Yes. He loves selling tickets. Yeah.

He'd be like $100 to this. And then he would just go buy a ticket for $500 and do that and just to get it going. So more people would put money in and then, you know, he would stop doing it. Yeah. Con men like really can never stop i mean whatever their thing is the con men of the world really just cannot stop doing it yeah to us it looks exhausting but to them it's like no that's just breathing that's like how i get from one day to the next like they have to be in prison or dead yeah that's it there's no way the other way to make them stop yeah and then if you let

them back out of prison they are going to just be like okay that was crazy but right back at it this isn't even the first like project he's touted he also tried to launch a pirate themed treasure hunt in the bahamas that first post-prison project. Like since prison, he has tried to launch a pirate themed treasure hunt in the Bahamas, a documentary about how that business, the treasure hunt would help him to pay back the $26 million he still owes. And then that like never happened. Uh, he also announced fire fest 1.5,

which was a Broadway musical that he planned to Mount that never happened. So he's, he's just skincare lines. He got a skincare line. Oh, which was a Broadway musical that he planned to mount that never happened. So he's just... He's got a skincare line. It sets your skin on fire. That's obviously next. And then diet supplements. These are like the usual trajectory. Running for president.

Solitary for seven months and just laid there and just thought of ways to capitalize on the brand. Yeah. And then did them all. Yeah. Just numbers swirling around his head, like in a beautiful mind. But it's all, the math was incorrect.

What do you think that blood lady will think of when she comes out of jail? What's the Elizabeth Holmes? Yeah. Oh, like she's, she's gotta be dreaming up. She's going to spend like six years in jail or something. Right.

I can't wait to see how high her voice is after jail. I hope she comes up with a festival. Mm-hmm. Kind of shocking that she hasn't already. Maybe, um, maybe if there's like mosquito-borne viruses that people get at the fire festival in the caribbean ocean elizabeth holmes's

company can test for them yeah a whole vertically integrated uh suite of scam companies now i have no opinion about this i'm just asking you guys you just suddenly turned into a southern lawyer by the way i have no opinion about this yeah can we get some air conditioning in this um no uh elizabeth holmes awaiting sentencing that she knew was going to be you know 10 20 10, 20 years, whatever. She had two kids. What do you think about that? I think she's a sociopath.

I think she's using them as pawns, you know, to try to get a reduced sentence or, you know, delay her sentence or look sympathetic and human. You know, I think it's truly sick. She like moved to a farm. She's like, look how normal I am. Right, right. Yeah, I mean, she really Benton, Arkansas'd her image. You know, Bentonville, Arkansas'd it. All right, Allison, Alyssa, thank you guys so much for being on.

Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Well, they can tune in to our animated show, Teenage Euthanasia. It is on every midnight on Wednesdays on Adult Swim. And then it's available the next day by 9. AM on max. Um, and after this week,

five episodes, uh, we'll be up and available. We're halfway through the season. And then we also have a teenage euthanasia Instagram, um, where fans can follow, check out merch,

um, buy a sweatshirt with crotch beetles on them. Nice. And do you guys have a work of media that you've been enjoying? Okay, I got one. I saw Sam Campbell last night, who's an Australian comedian at a Para and Connor O'Malley show. And he was so funny. Connor O'Malley show.

And he was so funny. Anyway, Sam Campbell, I'm sure he'll, if you haven't already heard of him, was super, super great. Bizarre and hilarious. I think everything's funnier in an Australian accent, personally. What about you, Alyssa?

What's a work of media that you've been enjoying? Sorry, I think, yeah, I'm really deep in the Colombo trenches. I apologize. Um, there's not a, not a lot of oxygen for other things.

Really. Would you recommend, uh, people started at episode one or is there one episodes that that's the best out of the first season? Oh man. Intro. Cause it's,

you know, it's, it's just a, you know, crime of the week thing, you know, you week thing you know you don't yeah no that's true it is just uh episodic there's um there's an episode and they have really fun names but there's an episode um where a lady gets a makeover uh in season one and And like, like sometimes you kill somebody and then like, you just want to like get a makeover is, is sort of like the theme of that episode,

but it actually like kind of were, you know, like it looks really good. You know, she looks like better after she became a murderer, like by about 800%, then she looked before she became a murderer, like by about 800 percent. Then she looked before she became a murderer, like suddenly she starts like caring about her appearance and like like bearing her

midriff. And she gets kind of like this sassy haircut and, you know know really like steps up as girl boss of this company and it was kind of invigorating to watch i love it i'm into it all right nick thank you so much for guest hosting uh what's the work of media you've been enjoying and where can people find and follow you oh yeah i've been watching those uh untold documentaries on on Netflix. They had like the Balco doping scandal and they had one about Jake Paul. And I they like take stories about things that you hate and tell you like maybe that's not, you know, the whole story. But that it's like really 30 for 30 level sports documentaries, those untolds on Netflix, and I really highly recommend them.

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