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Episode Date: November 30, 2023

In episode 1589, Jack and Miles are joined by hosts of Beauty Translated, Carmen Laurent & Janie Danger, to discuss… TikTok Is Really Into Bad Outdated Advice On Relationships…, KFC Perfume Is Now A Thing and more! TikTok Is Really Into Bad Outdated Advice On Relationships… KFC Perfume Is Now A Thing Smells like fast food: KFC, Burger King and McDonald's bet on their fragrance The Sweet Smell Of Success This Christmas Get Tickets To Trauma Response Here! LISTEN: Jane as a Bit by Janie DangerSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Fully done. Wow. Fully done. Yeah, it's happened. It's happened. By the way, I think I mentioned, I think I said when we were talking about how big moose are, I said that there's no difference between moose and elk. That is not true. It's just that moose are called elk, like are called European elk or some shit like by in certain parts of the world.

But it's not. There are two different species. It's just moose sometimes called. Did fucking moose Twitter come for you or something? Yeah. Oh, buddy. Oh, shit. They ate my ass up.

Don't lock horns with elk Twitter, I tell you. That's right. They fucking your ass on moose Twitter. That's right they fucking your ass on moose twitter that's right i still i still really love them they're cool for the record okay part of record my name is jack o'brien aka i pissed my pants lied about it i don't think that my wife bought it. I pissed my pants at the theme park. A small patch of fabric got dark. That is courtesy of right to post on the discord. Revoke the right to post.

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I may have just let it go. You know, Elsa? Alright. I mean, that's hard. Alright. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! It's Miles Gray, a.k.a. If you're hungry, just horse it.

Put that sauce on it. My sauce is waiting. Come and dump on it. And I'm just talking about my bottle of Arby's horsey sauce in my refrigerator that I've been trying on everything. That's been actual. It's kind of fucked up when you you meet a food that horsey sauce does not go with at all. And it almost tastes like you're eating white out or something.

Yeah. But anyway, my horsey sauce adventure continues. What are some failed failed kind of pairings? I tried it on those mashed potato pancakes I made. I was like, what? A little horseradish-y thing would probably go well? The flavors that I had in that thing absolutely fucking clashed with the horsey sauce.

I thought I was eating plastic. I'm sticking with the hits. Just chicken tenders. Like a bacon. I thought you were going to be like, panko chocolate? Just dunk it. Dunk in that. Jelly donut.

Anyways, Miles, we are thrilled, fortunate to be joined in our third and fourth seats by the hosts of season three of Beauty Translated, a podcast that celebrates the trans experience and is just a lot of fun. Please welcome Carmen Laurent and Janie Danger! podcast that celebrates the trans experience uh and is just a lot of fun yeah please welcome carmen lawrence and janie danger hi how are you guys so glad to be here all the way from atlanta yeah coming from carmen yeah we know you very well janie this is the first time we've met you.

We're really excited to have you on. So thank you for gracing us. I am glad to be here. Thanks, guys. Thank you for having me. Thank you for gracing us with your presence. And you're a musician, yeah? Yeah.

Yeah, I'm a musician. I have a new album coming out next year. I make punk music. That's kind of the umbrella term that I use to describe it. Yeah, sure. Can you use the more specific term? Because some of the descriptions of term that i use to like describe it yeah sure can you use the more specific term because some of the descriptions of your music are really cool they just like just the descriptions get me excited they're all made up shit it's just a bunch of crap i know but they're

so cool i think that uh hypnagogic power violence is just it just sounds cool yeah that's kind of why i went with that but there there is some truth to it too i would say and i just i saw you post your spotify rap you listen to a lot of danny brown and jpeg mafia though this year yeah i think that was all i mean that had to be all from um scaring the hoes but i i do remember when that album came out for people who aren't aware. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I did go back and, like, re-listen to, like, most of their catalog.

Yeah, they're great. I love both of them a lot, yeah. That new Danny Brown album's really dope, too. There's always such a good overlap with, like, punk and hip-hop. I've always noticed there's always this, like, strong relationship between the two genres that's always been very interesting. Yeah mean there's a lot of history there too like and like the new york scene and like the like late 70s early 80s like all of the like clubs that weren't for like rich

people they were either either playing like early hip-hop and like soul and stuff like that or they were like punk clubs right and so the they just kind of became two subcultures that kind of grew like congruently to each other and you see that a lot like throughout history you know and i mean a lot of it has like just very similar like ethos like a lot of it is very just like anti-authoritarian like a lot of it is very just like anti-authoritarian. Like a lot of it's very like pro, like, uh, you know, little people for the outcasts,

you know, for stuff like that. And yeah, no, I, I think that's awesome. I love, I love hip hop.

I love all. Yeah. No, it's always like, I'm one of those. I listen to everything. One of my friends is really into punk and like metal is like a low key hip hop scholar. And I'm always like,

what the fuck? Like always like, yeah, Pat. And I'm always like yeah i'm always i'm always impressed always impressed i i know a few people like that too there's a lot of people that are really into like the kind of spiritual miracle stuff that are are big like punk guys too right yeah yeah i i don't know. I usually just say my music's punk music as kind of an umbrella term because I try to cover a lot. I do. I just I just make what I like, to be honest. Like, I'm just making what I think is cool. power violence and transcendental hyper punk artists like that just those words are art in and of themselves all right well we're gonna get to know you both a little bit better in one moment first a couple things we're talking about today we're gonna check in with tiktok and what is old is new again on tiktok the latest piece of garbage culture from my childhood that is now becoming a piece of garbage culture from uh today's youth's childhood is men are from mars women are from

venus just that those ideas back on the charts baby yes yeah it gets literally literally that book is charting again and people are like it's a book yeah yeah yeah it was like a terrible dating book from the late 90s from like the 50s oh okay or were there i think there many basically from the 50s i i thought you meant like the concept like yeah no no, no, no, no. The book by John Gray, PhD, no relation from 1992. But did they go to Jupiter to get more stupider? No. Well, nowadays, since everything's woke, women go to Venus because they have a penis. Exactly.

Period. Yeah. What's next? You know, it was foretelling the future. Probably we'll talk about the new KFC perfume the new I'm wearing a

are you how does it smell I hear it smells wonderful the ad is actually very fun it smells like a famous bowl guys are all over me I ate so many famous bowls when i was in my 20s did you yeah this is just like the amount of caloric density that you were getting for a small amount of money was unparalleled anyways all of that plenty more but before we get to any of it carmen janey we do like to ask

our guests what is something from your search history? We talked about this yesterday, and I showed Carmen my search history, and she was a little appalled. So, I think we should go with the easy one. We'll build to yours.

Here's the thing. I saw some of the stuff in Janie's search history, and it got me to start searching some of the stuff in Janie's search history and it got me to start searching some of the stuff in Janie's search history because I was curious. What the fuck is she talking about? So something that Janie searched that I also

searched. She had never seen gay porn before. Wait, what? They do what to one another on camera? Janie, you pulled us up. Wait, what? They do what to one another on camera? I typed in... Jamie, pull this up. Guy can't stop ejaculating.

Now, I... That's even a thing you can search? Yes, I thought I was going to get a link to a Pornhub video or like something hot. But I actually got a link to like news program shorts about this guy who literally has like a hundred orgasms a day. And it's actually kind of heartbreaking and really sad. Oh, no, man. Yeah.

You got something way darker. Yeah, I got something way darker. Do got something way darker do we get to meet him in the news clip like yes i'm oh wow what is his comportment like you get to meet her because she transitioned oh wait what what janie what yes yeah so she transitioned and it actually like we gotta kind of helped her i don't know i think part of it is like she was like yeah i my sisters would put me in dresses and i was like i kind of like it and i i believe that for on face value but more so i think that taking estrogen reduced like it stopped her compulsive orgasms from happening or it like made it a lot better.

Wow. So, Oh, Christine, I didn't even see they updated. Yeah. She's serving. She looks good.

She's serving. Oh, I remember this. The video is really funny, though. Oh, the video. Dale Decker suffers from a rare and seemingly incurable condition that leads to him suffering up to 100 unwanted orgasms a day. I mean, they seem powerful.

Yeah, very powerful orgasms. Like, you can't. That's not like some shit that you could. Doubled over on the ground Whilst playing frisbee Yeah he was just trying to play frisbee At the time This is a very funny part where I mean it's so fucked up but like

He's saying that like You might think it's not that bad Just having orgasms all the time But when you're at your dad's funeral Looking over his casket And you're just busting just straight he busting did not use the phrase but that's my uh okay that's your editorial yeah standing over my dad's cas cast blowing my beans in my pants.

Just throwing ropes on my dead dad. Silly stringing the guy. It's causing more trauma than even needed. I didn't need to have that in my visual view as I'm having an orgasm. Good to know that she's on the right path now and having less debilitating orgasms. Yeah.

Absolute Hall of Fame search history, by the way. Wow. Thank you. Thanks. Shout out to the show Seeking Derangements for putting me on to the guy who can't stop ejaculating video. Wow. My first thought was someone get her some ssris because the second she gets on some lexapro or some prozac orgasms be gone dull it down yeah i believe that was the original name of the uh product prozac when it was first introduced was Orgasm Be Gone. Nut killer, yeah. Goo Gone.

They were like, oh, that's taken. Coming too much? Janie, is there something from your search history? I mean, obviously that was from your search history. I mean, that was the top one from my search history. Let's leave. It's unbeatable.

We have to put that on a shrine. That's on a pedestal for now. That's on a pedestal. Yeah. Let's start with you on this one, Janie. What's something you think is overrated? Oh, shut. I looked at this.

I couldn't fucking think of anything like two. I don't know. I wrote down women. who, I don't know, I wrote down women. Well, that's going to win us a lot of fans, J.D. Yeah. Well, I mean, I just think that, like, how do I explain this? I just, I feel like guys are a bit slept on. I feel like, I feel like the dudes, dudes look i was i re-watched barbie

recently and it really just stuck out to me just how much more fun the like ken portion of that movie is and it's i just i think i think that like serious sensitive stuff has its place but like dudes rock and i i just i i really appreciate that dudes that dudes have the ability to rock so that's that's what i got amen sister i love that one we rock yeah right yeah trying to tell my nieces that i'm like i rock they're like yeah what does that mean i'm like never mind let the tell them that and then like dunk a fucking basketball over them like eight foot basket doesn't matter yeah i love it uh carmen do you have a overrated uh yeah it's not as funny but having to fucking advocate for yourself

in the medical system. I went, I've just constantly, I've been trying to make a surgery happen this year and I've started the process in January and it looks like it's probably not going to happen until after December. And I've just been constantly been like emailing and emailing and calling people and bugging people and like, hello, am I still on the list? Like,

hello, hello. And I just honestly, it's one of the most like demoralizing and like exhausting and depressing, downright depressing processes ever to go through. So I hate it, but it must be done. Yeah, I'm so sorry to hear that. I mean, it's like, it's, it's wild to think that you have to, like you as a human being are asking for something that is necessary to your livelihood, your well-being. And then you have to like prove that to this like disembodied bureaucracy who's like, well, I got to go on my chart. And you're like,'re like you're not oh my god this isn't that fucking difficult but yeah it's uh i can only imagine how frustrating that kind of like that this whole

process that process has been yeah you should do um like the movie uh john q you should like go in there with a gun and be like this is is great advice. Give me the pussy. Give me the pussy. I have been considering it. That is the famous catchphrase from John Q. The other thing in my search history is the address for the hospital in Baltimore. And no, I'm not really that concerned. I have been seriously,

I have been considering it. I've been like, if they don't fucking get back to me by the end of this week, I'm going to give them another nasty phone call. You know, something like that. Right. The power of a woman's nasty phone call is unbeatable. It is. It is.

I use it like a Pokemon card. Like with my wife. I'm like, yo, do that shit where you turn up on the phone on them. And she's like, oh, say less. And then we don't have to. Now we have the same Internet rate locked in because of that. Because I can't just cancel the service. This is bullshit, actually.

And I'm like, is it working? Is it working? Oh, damn. You're in the background just being like, oh, fuck. She got a body again. Wow. Like it's like a rap battle yeah exactly i'm like yo you're fucking wrecked after that son just lock in that internet race spectrum stop fucking around all right let's take a quick break we'll come back we'll hear what you both think is

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And Carmen, as you know, we do like to ask our guests, what is something that you think is underrated? Underrated. Well, we were just talking about it, but I wrote down being a bitch is underrated because I got to pull out my bitchy phone call card and use that. This weekend, I made some progress. I got through another bottleneck in this whole process of surgery because I just kept calling people and being the nicest bitch possible. Like it's a delicate balance that you have to strike of like, you have to be nice enough to where you're not going to get hung up on and like denied service. But you also have to be mean enough to where you're like,

I'm literally going to kill myself and everyone. If you don't, if you don't meet my demands, you know? Yeah. It's like, how do I establish that the stakes are fucking existentially high without and then again like the fucking absurdity of like but i have to present my

humanity in a way that doesn't turn off the person that has that little bit of power on the phone yeah but yeah let the let the bitch card fly you know let it fly yeah Yeah. I'm telling you, John Q or Dog Day Afternoon is what you need. Yeah. I need a boyfriend. Very helpful instructional films. Like the one in Dog Day Afternoon. That's where men are underrated. Go back and watch Dog Day Afternoon.

Al Pacino's character. He was willing to rob a bank for that girl's pussy. Okay. Yeah. Put the pussy in the bag. Put the pussy in the bag. Put the pussy in the bag. Nobody gets hurt.

They put, like, one of those blue paint exploding things in her pussy. Honey, I got it. I secured the bag. Don't open it! No! Uh... Janie, how about you? What's something you think is

underrated? Okay, I had a better answer for this but i wrote down um goop and i'm not i'm not talking about the gwyneth paltrow brand i'm talking about i what i watch a lot of movies i watch a lot of horror movies and stuff and i've just really noticed that lately like every horror movie you see now is about it's about trauma. It's you know, it's about something something really serious. And I'm over it. I'm fucking over it. I'm over all that shit.

I don't want trauma. I want goop. I want like Stuart Gordon reanimator. I want like limbs goopy falling off the fly just like bloody goopy goopiness and i i don't want it to be about trauma i don't want the ghouls and the goop to be a metaphor for trauma i just want it to be goop like straight up like right i'm not yeah like yo how the fuck does goop get here and fucking everything up you're like what happened to those movies right and like your mother is calling again yeah and you're like what the fuck yeah yeah yeah yeah just goopy glistening yeah yeah exactly i i thinking about that movie uh talk to me

which everyone seemed to like but i didn't because it was another trite metaphor for trauma. And once I realized that I was over it, I was, I liked when it was just goopy. Right. What's a good goopy movie. Like what, like what are you holding up to say?

Like use this as your guiding principle, horror filmmakers. This is the, there's so many, a lot of Stuart Gordon stuff from beyond is amazing movie that movie's crazy a guy gets like a little dick on his head it's so cool oh hell yeah what what reanimator there's a lot of uh really good like giallos and italian movies like demons fucking whips uh zombie or zombie 2 oh damn it's that movie is awesome there's no zombie one the movie

is just called zombie 2 i love that that movie whips the fly classic classic goopcore film yeah yeah goopcore the blob the blob yeah yeah and you know the thing, a lot of those are still metaphorically about something else in many ways. But it's not as like, it doesn't have the super serious tone. It has a goopy tone. And I like that. I don't need therapy after it. Right, right, right. Just give me the goopy.

No, yeah. Yeah. And to be fair, I do like hereditary and stuff. But I just, I don't know. I think not everything needs to be hereditary. Some things can just be goopy. Yeah. Right. Amazing. So I just looked up Stuart Gordon and in addition to making films like Reanimator and The Dentist, he wrote Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. What?

Oh, shit. Perfect. That's where I learned bananas have potassium. He wrote Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. What? Oh, shit. Yeah. Perfect. That's where I learned bananas have potassium. Yeah. That movie has a goopy vibe to it, though. Like, you know, like wacky scientists. Like, stuff like that doesn't get made as much anymore.

I miss it. I feel like there's a lot of goop coming out of the ant's mouth at one point. Like, it's got a goopy mouth. Don't they get covered in some shit at some point? It's just water from when the sprinklers come on. Yeah, but the water, the droplets are, like, the size of their body. Yeah, it's like a photo of Honda Civic landing on you. Viscous, the water.

Yeah. Amazing. All right. Well, let's get into some news. And by news, I, of course, mean just look at the dumb shit that people are talking about on TikTok. Well, you know, it's a good indicator. I mean, last time we had a talk because people were like, they're all worshiping Bin Laden. You're like, they're not.

But thank you for trying to make that a thing. That's what I thought you were going to bring up when you said TikTok. Oh, no, no. We're talking specifically. There's just like a few articles that i was reading and i was like wow like the new thing right now is just terrible terrible dating advice or like how like relationship advice but that's like the fun thing about tiktok is you get to watch younger people discover things from the past like it's a fucking mind like i remember videos like have you heard of rage against the machine you're like yeah no go on go on what or like you know sometimes they find out about an artist like

or a forgotten activist and things like that but other times it's like there's apparently they stumbled on men are from mars women are from venus a book that came on 1992 and like like takes they're like they're taking shit out of that book and be like yo this is like the source code of the matrix and it's like it's true it's to the point that the book is back on the bestseller charts. This is the one that is filled with, you know, just regressive gender essentialist garbage. But hey, this is what the kids are feeling right now. And if you look on TikTok,

there are thousands of videos under the hashtags, hashtag dating advice or hashtag dating expert. But it may shock you to hear that some of these experts are in fact not fucking experts at all they're just usually people that know how to farm clicks or a thing that i've been seeing a lot of and we'll probably talk about this in an upcoming episode is like there's like this aesthetic now that it's just pretending to be on a podcast you know like where you see people in a room with a lot of thought yeah and half the time i'm like

yo where are these shits charting like i'm in podcasting i don't know this thing has a million views as a video but then you look it's like there is no podcast it's just like the visuals it's like the aesthetic now is being like these are people talking on microphone and i guess that lends an air of authority to it but yeah a lot of the advice shouldn't by the way we should just say yeah you could just yeah you just upload that shit and make it a podcast like i could i could upload a voicemail and it would be a podcast right yeah exactly but a lot of the advice is like really bad like there's one coach saying like you know women like that you need to lose weight before going out into the

dating world or using like this really this terminology like high value male or high value female or divine feminine to sort of just like you know cloak the gender normativity and like stereotypes that like serve as this quote-unquote advice in it and you know also shockingly this is advice is very anti-sex work like with quotes that are like men don't wife pole dancers or another one was so wild. It was like, no one is going to the funeral of an OnlyFans girl.

Nobody cares. Like you're like, actually all my subscribers will be there. Yeah, exactly. They will be my pallbearers. Exactly. They will bring my body

into the church and into the ground. And or the other thing is like, you know, men are only there for financial gain and just doing this. So you don't need to worry

about anything except for like the financial aspect of your relationship. And some actual experts in dating and sociology are pointing to the fact that like online dating has made things pretty bleak for younger people, especially if they're all of their dating experiences begin and end with like using apps. And it's just it basically turns your relationship into a game where you're just swiping to find like the more better resourced like Pokemon card basically like as you go through. And as a as a result, it leaves people feeling like like they're expendable because their attitude is like that towards dating. Some are also saying it could be a reaction to like just, you know, the general malaise of capitalism that like many people are burnt out by like stagnant wages or like living with parents or things like that so there's a certain appeal to this idea of like a rich partner who could just come in and completely change everything yeah yeah and like fuck a relationship to me yeah yeah like it's like nah man fuck a relationship like i

need to fucking i'm i'm so ground down from toiling yeah like i'm only going to look for people who are going to provide x y and z and that's like what my calculus is so yeah like get me off this treadmill however i can do it yeah that's it's all uh it's all so bleak i feel like what you're describing i i'm not familiar with this book but this sounds like it's very like part and parcel with like the rise of like andrew tate yeah and like like jordan peterson and stuff like that and i feel like there's like there's always like a search and like more like right wing like reactionary viewpoints to like have some kind of like intellectual legitimacy to like why you're like why you're misogynist why you're racist why you're homophobic right there's always like a search to find like oh see this

fucking quack doctor said women are more prone to like gathering and men are more prone to hunting and you know whatever and i feel like this book could just be another extension of that because i mean andrew tate isn't really like he's influential but he's not like a scholar and i feel like this could be like just a way to kind of like graft on that viewpoint to like an intellectual like, oh, see, these are my sources, you know? Yeah. And I think it's in the exact same way. I also think the same thing with like Jordan Peterson. But Jordan Peterson is like a whiny Canadian man with like a nails on chalkboard voice that can't stop crying. So I feel like

he's not as revered as what are you talking about that's a terrible jordan peterson well because like they're all kind of boiled down to being like like if like if you're sort of distilling it to a very like harmless view it's like they'll saying like we're just telling people to not settle like that's that's what it all boils down to but then you really dig into it. It's like they'll saying like, we're just telling people to not settle. Like that's that's what it all boils down to. But then you really dig into it and it's like, well, no, we're actually learning how to categorize people, look at them completely differently and then operate from that place. And to your point, like there are just as many like like these sort of like anti-feminist dating type guru people that exist like outside of Andrew Tate, like you think of like Pearl Davis and those fresh and fit yeah exactly goes on yeah a lot of these videos are sort of entertaining purely for the fact and i'm sure a

lot of people are just watching it for like outrage clicks like it's not you know half of it is people going oh i wonder if that's true and other people like this is so fucking backwards like what are y'all talking about that's why i say a lot of the people are just really good at farming clicks but like they're just some of them are just like funny because it'll be like tips on like manipulation like it's like how to not appear jealous like if you if you're calling somebody and then like if you're calling a guy like in a very like cishet relationship and you don't want to come off as insecure and they call back and say oh how come you like i missed your call or why did you call you can say oh i was actually rather than saying

you were checking in say that you had a flat tire and you needed their help but another man actually helped you do that and you no longer need their help. Or like just weird shit that's sort of like

how to make people more dependent on you. It's super fucking wild. Right. Don't treat them like a human. Right. Yeah.

Every time I call my boyfriend, I make up something horrible that just happened to me. And I say, well, actually, another guy came and fixed it for me. Sorry about it. Oh, my God. That is genius. Right.

And we've been going strong for eight years. So, you know, you should try it. No, I'm kidding. Oh, well, here's a question I may have. Does your boyfriend pass the orange peel theory test? Do you know about this? Of course. Tell me about the orange peel theory. Oh, my God. You don't know the orange peel theory test do you know about this of course tell me about the orange peel theory okay oh my god you don't know the orange peel oh my gosh how do you know you're

in a good relationship carmen unless you know about the orange peel theory so this is another thing that's blowing up like it has a ton of views under this hashtag about a again young people being like oh this this actually makes sense the i i'm just gonna play the orange peel theory for you right now so you can get an idea of how it's being discussed on TikTok. Everybody's talking about the orange peel theory. If you don't know what that is, the orange peel theory basically describes that when your partner does an act of service for you, that's something that you are perfectly capable of doing on your own.

And this is for really small stuff. Like for example, peeling an orange. Let's say that for whatever reason, I hate peeling my oranges, but I really like oranges. I asked my partner, Hey babe, would you mind peeling this orange for me and they can either respond with of course love like not a problem at all or they can say no you are perfectly capable of peeling that orange yourself or maybe my partner already knows that i really don't fuck with citrus and has the orange already peeled and prepared for me either way their response is indicative of much bigger things than just really don't fuck feeling an orange because even just a

super tiny thing like that reveals so much about their attitude toward you and your relationship so much about relationships is the small thing so yeah that's what that's what they're going on about is yeah the orange it says everything about you if you don't do which is like so one-dimensional and like, I'm like, Oh y'all, y'all are in for a wild ride because I want my partner to be like a terrified personal assistant who is always trying to anticipate what I want three hours ahead and just have peeled fruits of various kinds laying in

front of me. That's the only way for me. And that's how I'm good to have a relationship. Or that, yeah. Or that like acts of service is the only real metric for understanding how a partner values you like yeah if dumb if like if you dumb relationships down to that level people will have no way to actually understand what matters in a relationship like can you like they'll be like yeah oh yeah they

cheat on me all the time but i have never had to peel an orange the entire time. So, who's laughing now? It's just like a very... I think we need to go back to the grapefruit theory, which is you take a grapefruit and you... And you use the grapefruit. The time-honored video. Yeah, do you really love me? Do you know how to work this grapefruit? That's the true measure of love is the grapefruit theory.

But like I get to like, I think it's like one of those things too, are these younger people like learning about like love languages and like the one that like resonates with them. It's like, Oh yeah, the actual service with, and then just completely just like hooking onto that without really beginning

to understand what matters to you or being able to articulate that. Like, sure. I get that if you're being very narrow and being like they won't do this they might not care about other things but that is such a very myopic way of looking at what i want my partner to be realistic with me about like like no bitch you can do that yourself like because there are times when I am being annoying. I'm very turned off by like forced helplessness shit like that. Like, yeah, I've hung out with couples where like one of them, usually the woman, just kidding.

But one of them in the relationship will will be like, just I don't know, anything inane. Like, hey, can you grab me this? And it's like the thing that they want you to grab is like closer to them and it's like yes why do you need your partner to do at like i don't know like maybe i'm just more independently minded but i i just that is so grating to me like i hate it there have been moments where like i've had that in relationships too and like i i'm like you are capable like i sometimes i will sound like the orange peel person like you can peel the orange yours the orange that you're holding that you decided to eat yeah i'm like i'm i'll i will i just don't really fuck with citrus miles oh okay sorry sorry oh well then you shouldn't eat that

shit no you know if he doesn't open the door for me it's fucking over okay like that like monster material that's goop behavior i do just want to say because we did we kind of talked about men are from mars women are from venus being like the sources for like this bullshit. And the front of the book has like the author listed as John Gray, PhD. That PhD is from, is an unaccredited PhD from Columbia Pacific University, a now defunct correspondence institution, and then an honorary doctorate for delivering a commencement speech so and like his main thing is he studied under like

one of the yoga like the original founders of yoga in the 60s and learned how to like kind of get into the spiritual guru bullshit that way. Cause I've only seen documentaries of, yeah. Yeah. I've only seen documentaries about how above board some of those yoga gurus have been. Yes, exactly. Interesting.

Interesting. Yeah. So it's always some motherfucker. That's like a chiropractor. That's like, no, listen, I've got it all figured out.

Right. It's simple. Men are from Mars. Women are from Venus. That's it. Men are from Mars. Women are from Venus. That's it. Any questions? Please stop asking me questions. What do we think is like,

I would love to be able to get ahead of this and just start feeding some of the like bullshit. Like what is the antiquated shit from our childhood miles from the nineties that we think is going to hit next on tiktok like because carmen and janie i know y'all are gen z that's why we said right y'all are gen z so i'm just curious i'm gonna spit all this respect right yeah yeah yeah but put yourself in the millennial mindset no fear like do we think like no fear philosophy like second place is the first loser like that that's like isn't that kind of already like i i have an

idea i think it would be something like i i think all right so i've thought about this a little bit because there's always very significant like pendulum swings in between generations i think that like gen like like the millennials were very like sex, sex positive and very, like, tumblery and, like, I don't know, there was, like, all the, like, pussy hat feminism and stuff like that. Yeah. And now you see Gen Z is very, like, sex negative and sex repulsed. And there's, like, we don't want to see sex scenes. Yeah.

Yes. Yes. There's a new puritanism. And I feel like that's a reaction to the previous generation's Libertinism. So to answer your question, I think it would be something like, bullying is good, actually, because that's just like, because something like, yeah, adversity builds character and we've all been told that bullying's bad and that you shouldn't bully people but maybe we should bring back smear the queer which i'm personally fine with considering i'm the queer yeah but yeah they'll launder it in like sort of like phrases to be like we actually need like shame is actually a very powerful tool that we're missing in our society and that's how like because that's

how all this shit it just comes reworded and you're like y'all are just talking about bullying and like or y'all are just talking about like very lopsided relationships or whatever it was like no i'm talking about the the high value males on the earth or whatever that feels like very much like because i think we're seeing that legislated like with all the transphobic and homophobic bills that are being passed around the country. It's like, it's an attempt to create like a, like a legal framework of shaming, like a, like a certain group of people. So I think there's like, that I feel is like a thing that I feel like a lot of older people, like these people just have no shame. And like, we need, we need people, people need to have a sense of shame for them to be able to act right or blah blah blah this that and the other so yeah i mean i yeah to your point jack no fear t-shirts could be good but i like janie's point too the puritanical uh stuff might be coming back just straight up puritanism yeah just like homespun clothing look at this look at this wild uh sermon from cotton mather you guys this shit is fucking blowing my mind. We're also seeing, like, Gen Z

return to religion in a really big way. With, like, trad and I'm not saying that's inherently a bad thing, but with trad Catholicism kind of coming back into fashion and stuff like that, it's been

interesting to observe. That shit is very interesting to me because it's so like... Speaking of Shane. I don't know. I mean, it's like the people that like promote this shit. It's like, you're not trad. You are on TikTok. Like, go have kids.

Stop talking to me. Go practice the rhythm. It doesn't make sense that like if you're gonna be like who's that bitch like pearl davis that is always like the she's her whole thing is like women shouldn't vote and it's like all right bitch then shut up like if you're if your whole thing is women shouldn't have opinions, then shut up, bitch. Why am I listening to you? I'm finding out about Pearl Davis in real time.

Oh, Jack. Yeah. Oh, boy. Oh, she's awful. She's fucking terrible. Although I think she went on Pierce Morgan's show and he absolutely set her up to kind of kind of be like yeah i agree with you and then absolutely just like tore her down and she was like what what's happening i thought this was a friendly space for regressive ideas yeah wait there's there's a very good like clip from that

too where there's like a woman she's talking to that's like you know like point counterpoint kind of thing and the other the other guest on there like brings up basically like what i did um or what i just said like so you know why why have you you like she's had an abortion before like you know like you are already failing i mean this is common with a lot of conservative shit where they fail to meet the standards that they set for everyone else like ben shapiro talking about masculinity you're five foot two your voice sounds like you haven't hit puberty like what the fuck are you saying like yeah but i bought this piece of wood at home depot and i and it's in this bag look this is a poplar yeah just working in the wood shop sport this magnificent piece of wood that's untouched yeah i love that video

we talked about this in a me and carmen's barbie episode too but there's in in his like hour-long destroys barbie fucking video, he brings up how hard enough the trans woman that's on Barbie is. Like, her voice is deeper than mine. It's like, that's not hard, dog. I don't know why you would post your L's like that. What happened to shame? Right.

What happened to shame? What happened to shame? I just thought of one more thing that could come back for gen z and i hope this one i hope this is the one but i've been seeing a big research tucker carlson was very big on this but like tobacco and like smoking and like nicotine being like good for you and i hope that smoking cigarettes more yeah that's awesome actual like smoking old fashioned cigarettes with old fashioned cigarettes i love the emphasis on electricity yeah no you don't need to charge those shits or anything that's crazy yeah right yeah they're like dude that that vape's gonna kill you right they Right, right, right. They're like, dude, you know that rare earth metals?

They got a mine for that battery for that vape, dude? All right, I'm going to smoke this Marlboro Red. I do wonder what sort of below the surface like jujitsu has been happening to, like with like the major tobacco companies. Like we, I think we just had, oh yeah, we were talking about how the surgeon general just came out and was like actually loneliness is worse for you than smoking

cigarettes and i'm like was he paid by like first of all it's true second of all was he paid by the tobacco industry to say that shit right like that's my first smoking yeah but with that that was what you know as somebody who recently quit nicotine like that that was as well just start smoking yeah but with that that was what you know as somebody who recently quit nicotine like that that was one what occurred to me i was like damn so maybe i can just like smoke then because right it's not that bad yeah lonely you're like i facetime with my boy every time i have a cigarette it's all good i i've i've heard that if you are able to quit by the age of like 35, then it will like basically like negate most of the like super negative effects by the time you get older.

So that's something my uncle would have said. You can keep, keep chiefing those darts up until your 35th birthday. Chiefing darts. JD, you got to be the new TikTok nicotine guru. Like, you're on Nick Talk. You're the most on Nick Talk right now. Actually, you totally can.

That could be a lane. Spoken until 35 and you're fine. Here's the deal. How old are y'all? You're good, dude. You got like 10 years to quit. Chief darts. Do y'all know about the Tucker the the the tucker carlson clip

i'm talking about where he's talking about how like well weed makes you stupid and submissive unlike nicotine which opens your mind it's like that's so cool that's just so cool that someone thinks that first of all it's true weed is evil and nicotine is rad so i mean yes the great mind expanding the great mind expanding benefits is nicotine is it was he was he talking about it like in relationship to menthol cigarettes is that no i don't it he's a huge vapor yeah tucker carlson yeah he like when you read a profile of him they're like he anytime he's not on camera he's vaping yeah him and hannity hannity also yeah yeah they really yeah like wow like it's like it's like i'm pretty sure it's like just out of like the camera byline basically it's like I'm pretty sure it's like just out of like the camera byline. Basically, it's like, all right, we're breaking.

Let me just I get my fucking lightsaber. But let me I think this let me play this clip because it seems like a Tucker Carlson nicotine take. But let's see if this is the one. Why do they hate tobacco? And it's not because it causes cancer. They don't care about your health. They close the gyms during covid.

Anyone who closed a gym during a pandemic that killed people who were fat clearly doesn't care about your health at all. They hate nicotine. They love THC. They're promoting weed to your children, but they're not letting you use tobacco or even non-tobacco nicotine delivery devices, which don't cause cancer. Why do they hate nicotine? Because nicotine frees your mind and THC makes you compliant and passive. That's why they hate it. It's a real threat to them. Hell yeah, man. Because I knew all of Bob Marley's songs were like, just assimilate and do what the state says.

What the fuck are you talking about? I love that. It's so forceful, Janie. The idea is like fuck are you talking about? I love that. It's so forceful, Janie. Like the idea is like, I'll tell you why they hate it because it opens like, to say it with that force. Your mind is so wild.

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Free your mind. Free your mind with my friend Joe Campbell. Yeah, something like that. Another thing that frees your mind, the scent of some nice Kentucky Fried Chicken. It some nice Kentucky Fried Chicken. It feels like Kentucky Fried Chicken, very popular in other countries. So Spain, this is in Spain that this is happening. They eat KFC on Christmas in Japan, I think. Yeah, it's huge. Oh, yeah. No, I'm Japanese.

It's like we used to collect the every year they put out a Christmas cup. And you're like, yo, you get the new fucking KFC Christmas cup. Yeah. From the people that were occupying after the war. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That shit. That shit. That shit. Get that. Colonel. Yeah. Military leader Colonel Sanders. Yeah. KFC Spain is marketing

a new perfume. I'm not even going to try to pronounce this. Eduardo. Oh, Eduardo. Oh, which comes in a bottle shaped like a drumstick. Try to pronounce this. O-D-U-A-R-D-O? O-D-U-A-R-D-O? Like Eduardo? Oh, which comes in a bottle shaped like a drumstick. I look at that, Miles. I say that's a scrotum.

That is a scrotum. Yeah, that is a scrotum. That is a diseased scrotum with one ball. But as part of a Christmas light chain. You could screw the scrotum lights in. Like find the scrotum on the tree and you get the... Yeah, exactly.

Not the pickle anymore. Yeah, yeah. Find the scrotum. Oh, Eduardo. Oh, Eduardo. They even made a whole commercial parodying pretentious fragrance ads in which two models dance in the desert

and stumble upon the drumstick bottle and then hand it to one another and then continue to dance it it doesn't smell like chicken per se it smells like the herbs and spices kfc uses to disguise the low quality of their chicken yeah the mutant why would you want to walk around smelling like sage and paprika? Bergamot, geranium, mandarin, and pink pepper, according to them. Perfect, because

I only know maybe one of those things smells like and it's pepper. Is there an original and an extra crispy? Well, bergamot is citrusy and I don't fuck with citrus. Oh, sorry. I should have known. I'm so sorry. My partner better know that I don't fuck with citrus. These hands don't fuck with citrus. Oh, sorry. I should have known. I'm so sorry. My partner better know

that I don't fuck with citrus. These hands don't fuck with citrus, but I like the taste. Every other way, I fuck with citrus. Only inside my mouth. Don't make me touch it. But yeah, I mean,

we talked about how earlier this year they gave away fried chicken scented incense. They did a log that you could put in your fireplace. Oh, now that is appealing. To feel like, yeah, you're like, oh, man. That would just make me so frustratingly hungry.

That's the thing, right? Like, this is just a way to make yourself hungry in settings where you might not want to be hungry. Maybe that's the plan, is that it's supposed to make you hungry so you go get kfc guy can't stop eating kfc yeah back in 2020 they sold uh chicken scented crocs which the fuck that's a collab of the year right there that's just how a line cook smells like crock rubber and some deep fryer yeah just come to east atlanta village go to flat iron find a line cook that just got off and take him home he'll probably give you a bump too right exactly no he's gonna ask you for a bump

you're gonna say no he'll find one true somehow right and he's like wait you smoke parliaments he's like you got a parliament i can dump this you're like wait what no it's on it's on it's the american spirits now i think parliaments are out they're not using gap too they got the recessed filter for people to do fucking bump schneiders out of no I'm going to be honest. I've never seen someone use it in that way. I've never seen it either. But I've heard it. Every time I smoked a Parliament, I heard people say that. In LA.

I've seen it with my own eyes in LA. Really? Yeah. That's one of those awesome factoids that people love. Every time they see a Parliament, they're like, oh, you know that those were pilots. You do coke? Yeah. It's either that. It's like, you know, they do that so the pilot could bite down while they're fighting, you know, a war

for whoever the fuck. Or, yeah, like, to your point, Carmen's like, oh, so you blow up? Right. Right. You got powder? You know, I do have one friend that is

an enjoyer of cocaine cocaine and she's always smoking parliament so maybe there is something to it so it's a lifestyle yeah it could be like an la thing i don't know if it's like i just felt like it was a very like west side la thing is where i saw it like really be like a thing but yeah to your point like other than that like it would be something people would reference but you would never see them do. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I guess not not a lot of people.

I didn't see a lot of people doing cocaine. Like, but I you definitely like heard it. Like when like in a bathroom, I mean, because people are crying really like. No, no. Just like you would hear people talk about it like on the East Coast. But they I never saw it. But maybe that was because people didn't do cocaine. Jack, you're not in a police station right now. Why are you talking like that?

So I don't, like, I'm just like, you know, I've heard of it. And every time I heard of it, Miles, I was like, I don't think you should do that. I don't even know. I couldn't give you like a name or nothing. Like, I just remember people. Much like tobacco, there's nothing. The results aren't in on if it's dangerous for you or not.

It expands your mind. It does expand your mind. That's actually they're recommending that once you quit smoking at 35, you switch over to doing cocaine. And it's healthy. It's good for your healthy nerves. It's called transfer addiction.

It's great. You know what's funny? I tucker carlson he was dude he was on like theo vaughn's podcast and theo vaughn was talking about cocaine i saw that so and tucker was like yeah talking that shit though too like about cocaine and i was like and he but he was doing his like i mean i don't know but you're like bro you just sound like you do. No, hold on. That tracks for me.

I could totally see him being sniffed up. Like, I mean, if you, if your job is talking for a living, like I, I'm, I'd be surprised if you're not on some kind of uppers in some way.

Yeah. Glorifying the Reagan era. Like, like, like this is just like, this is them talking about it and like you can tell like tucker carlson he's not like what's that i've never heard of that i mean he's not on fox anymore so he can say whatever he wants yeah here it is one of the reasons i don't do cocaine anymore is because they fucking ruined it what with the fentanyl used to be his baby laxative yeah but i'd rather shit than die you know i agree with that i mean you know i'd rather get off the toilet and be like oh i was hectic than be like you know laying there just like god wish i could go in blue yeah

but i gotta go to heaven and that and that by the way is a guess see he's like oh my god you're like okay i very fucking hate that he went on that podcast because like that like that makes him look normal right and not like a fucking genocidal psychopath like right yeah oh that's so that's gross to me when people like do that and then alan brought george bush on with his finger paintings yeah yeah yeah shit like that i think theo vaughn also had um fucking candace owens oh yeah he has them all like they all end up stopping by that show and you're like what the fuck is going on but yeah like yeah all the fans are like oh like you i remember like looking at the comments around that clip people like oh like, oh, I didn't know Tucker Carlson was like that. I didn't know he was cool.

Yeah. No, no. I mean, I've known a lot of people that do coke, and not all of them are cool, believe it or not. What? Nah. Tankies like coke, fascists like coke. Yeah, they all do. The Venn diagram is just a circle.

A really annoying person on Coke that they're the best. Right. So yeah, someone with really bad ideas being loud about it. Yeah. Turned up five X that shit. Yeah. Amazing. Well, Carmen, Janie, what a pleasure having you both on the podcast.

Carmen, where can people find you? follow you, all that good stuff? You can find me over on Instagram at the Carmen Laurent and our podcast page is at Beauty Translated Pod. The new season, season three is going to premiere on January 24th. So look out for that. We may be back by then. Who knows? And until then, I definitely suggest you go back and listen to our older episodes.

Janie's been on the show several times. Listen to her original episode. Listen to the other episodes with her. Most popular episode this season, season two was the Barbie review. But I would like to highlight Monica Helms, the woman who created the trans flag,

Calpurnia Adams, an amazing trans, like, we had a bunch of trans trailblazers on, so go back and listen to season two for sure. And, Janie, where can people find you other than season three? Yeah, so, yeah, season three, Beauty Translated. And, Janie, where can people find you other than season three? Yeah.

So, yeah, season three, Beauty Translated. Also, we're starting a Patreon called BT Ultra. Boop,

boop. BT Ultra. We're going to start uploading to that. Like MK Ultra? Is that the deal? Sort of. And also,

for kind of trademarking reasons, we're just calling it BT Ultra and not saying what BT stands for right right these folks are pretty high up in the company here jane ah interesting british television okay yeah yeah yeah british yeah bbc ultra

yeah uh also uh yeah i make music on spot, Janie Danger on anywhere you get music. I have an album coming out next year, some EPs and stuff. I got a lot in the works. We're also playing a show on New Year's Eve if you're in the Atlanta area. It's going to be a lot of fun. If you follow me on Instagram at Janie Danger, you can keep up with all that stuff. And also on Twitter at Wife Sucker. Because I got my old account back.

I sent an appeal and said I would be very good. And I'm back. Yeah. There's like, all right. I mean, if you say so. Amazing. Is there a work of media that you guys have been enjoying? This one made me laugh.

It's a tweet from somebody that's at Caleb caleb says things it's kind of an old tweet it just says um being gay is exhausting why do i have to say we love her when i walk past a lamppost and that is highly relatable to me because i will see something i like and just say look at her we love her i like and just say look at her we love her oh shit dude um this is jd's looking at her phone right now trying to decide i'm scrolling through my feed seeing anything that i have uh like retweeted that really is like sticking out to me right now okay here's this one from a friend of me skatey 420 joe biden acts like one of those dogs that's like 23 years old and it's still alive for some reason and every now and then it just stops breathing but like it's fine shout out to skatey she's very funny oh shit but let's the phrasing like it's fine

he's good he's good he's fine he's fine he's all right we know that he can do one more term he's fine he's good he's good he's good we can get one more out of him we'll get one more we got four more years right yeah miles where can people find you is their work Media you've been enjoying yeah find me On the app based platforms At miles of gray find jack And I in our basketball podcast miles and jack Got mad boosties you can find me on My 90 day fiance podcast

Called 420 day fiance You know 420 Day yeah 420 day fiance With Sophia Alexandra Tweet I'm liking well first i also again want to plug my friend kim cooper's show it's going to be fantastic it's a one-woman show that's happening in la you can find a link for that in the footnotes and i say it because i saw it and i really like the show and i want people to go check it out it's called trauma response check

the link out in the footnotes uh tweet i like is is from Amelia Elizalde. At Amelia Elizalde tweeted, Giddy up, jingle horse, pick up your feet would devastate me. So rude. Like the person is like clapping when they say that. Giddy up, jingle horse, pick up your feet. Okay, let's go. That's my trauma. I'd call it a day after that that kind of turns me on

yeah that was mine also oh shit i also had john hansen at john hansen talks it's officially surprising your coat pocket from last winter season which i had i found a a pen in there from last year that i didn't know what happened to. Oh, yeah. I've got like a bunch of masks and tissues. I had a lot of silk hair ties in mine that I was really looking for, so I'm glad. Okay. I got a bag

of Coke. And a pack of Parley's. Get you. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com,

where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about today's episode. What was a song that we think you might enjoy? Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? Well, I, Janie, since you are a musician, I would actually like to give you the floor. And let's direct the listeners to one of your songs. So they can experience the majesty that is Janie Danger.

Oh, thanks. You should check out Jane is a Bit. It's my most listened to song. People like it. It's short. It's sweet. So, yeah. It's a minute listened to song. People like it. It's short. It's sweet. So, yeah. It's a minute long. I see it right there. Okay, so buckle up. This is

Jane as a Bit by Janie Danger. Check this one out wherever you get your music. Buckle up, jingle horse. Giddy up. Alright, we will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this morning. Back this afternoon to tell you what is trending. And we will talk to y'all then. Bye. Bye.

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