The Daily Zeitgeist - Best Kanye Songs, Sleep Really Is The Cousin Of Death 3.15.17

Episode Date: March 16, 2018

In episode 105, Jack & Miles are joined by writer/performer Lamar Woods to discuss the Kanye West bracket, pro-gun control vs pro-life arguments, new scientific study on how to stay young, puppy tragedies, a Portlandia sketch come to life, & more! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 22, episode four of Der Daily Zeitgeist! Yeah! For March 15th, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. The Day of the Jackal, and I am joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Gray, they don't love you like I love you. Gray, they don't love you like I love you. My, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my They don't love you like I love you My Miles Gray And they don't love you like I love you

Gray I will keep going Keep going Now bring it home Bring it home And we are thrilled to be joined In our third seat I'm sorry I love Nixon Anyway yeah Hi that's Oh I'm sorry, I love Nixon.

Anyway, yeah. Hi, that's... Oh, I'm Miles Gray. That's a great song, if people don't know that song. Turns out, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that song is dope. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious improviser and filmmaker and just all-around funny dude from white women, Lamar Woods.

Hey, what's up? What's up? How y'all doing? Good. You got an AKA? A AKA? Yeah. Like an other name? Yeah. Also known as Prof-Matic. They used to call me on that on Instagram. Were you a...

Prof-Matic. Do you have a rap? Yeah. Was that your rapper name? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Mine was Prime.

Prime? Yeah. So we're P's. We both have P's. Yeah. See? Okay. You do a lot of rhymes where you'd be like, yo, don't mess with P. yeah okay yeah mine was Prime Prime yeah so we're P we both have P yeah see okay you do a lot of rhymes where you'd be like yo don't mess with P yeah

and they're just multifunctional rhymes that we can both write for each other also my AKA came from Ted Minette on Twitter so shout out to you Ted

I should know where mine came from but once again I do not you don't have one it was Day of the Jackal Lamar that's how strong

that AKA was. Lamar didn't even know that was an AKA. I was like, oh, I thought that was your name. I thought that's what you were about to do. Mine is courtesy of The Ironing is Delicious. Oh, that person gave me that. I think he gave me the AKA yesterday, too. Or maybe it passed me.

Time blurs on this podcast it does lamar what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are oh we're okay so uh a couple nights ago this is what i googled i'll just tell you exact words i googled uh i heard sirens in la last night and uh i uh was like i don't know if y'all heard that shit but it was like real late at night the other day and it was like all of these sirens and like i'm talking like probably 3 30 in the morning and i i was like i i don't know what was going on but i didn't i couldn't see anything outside so i didn't investigate it but then i went so i went to sleep then woke up and googled that to see if i could find out what happened and what nothing came up i don't know what happened but yeah there's your

algorithm google you can't even type shit that you just want to know they should figure out what's your talking i don't know i'm just trying to be safe yeah the location function on twitter i used to use that and be able to like find out shit like when the internet went down like in missouri i think because people there were so few people on twitter that like if anything happens like i could look like use twitter and my location to figure out what was happening but in la i think it's just too crowded maybe yeah and maybe i heard it because of where i live in echo park right maybe it was an echo park thing there but there are a couple of twitter accounts that sort of keep people in the loop like

that right like you have to report like super local from your neighborhood yeah yeah or what i use whenever i hear shit like that is the police scanner app yeah because you can just hear like you know they have certain channels or like oh shit someone's really going yeah that's what i need because well the reason i picked that because i uh have this i'm uh like crippling fear of the end of the world so that if that's what that tells about me. And then I think it's because I grew up super religious. I'm like they were preaching the end of the world constantly. And I have these sort of nightmares that been happening to me where I'll basically experience the end in different ways. Wow. Yeah. So what does the rapture look like to you?

It's all it's been different every time. What did Rapture look like to you? It's been different every time. The first one that happened when I was in middle school was like – it was like basically – it wasn't like a – it was kind of like the Rapture, but it was like everybody was dying in normal ways. Oh, shit. Like say one day someone got in a car accident and they died. And the next day someone was in a plane crash. But it was like – A lot of crashes.

Yeah, it was a lot of crashes. I was like, is this what God wanted to do? Yeah, and it was like, oh, okay. So it took a while for me to realize that this was the end of the world, but it was slowly happening. People were dying one by one. And you said you grew up around hearing about the end of the world a lot? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I grew up to those witness.

So they believe the end of the world is who would have thought that being inundated with that day after day as a child would lead to you having nightmares yeah i just don't follow that logic oh yeah they have not stopped so now when things happen like stuff and outside or sirens or anything i'm like always a little more extra fearful of that yeah yeah sometimes in la it'll just sound like the end of the world randomly like there's like oh shit there are like eight fire trucks like i can hear them yeah i also live not that far from the 405 so sometimes that shit just like goes off and you'll look online to be like okay did a nuclear weapon detonate and it's just like

nothing yeah right right it's just but but then then when there were those wildfires by my house, that was a whole different level because there were all sorts of helicopters on top of like 20 different fire engines. I had that dream too, the fire one. Yeah. Where a fire killed us. Yeah, I've had a few times where I've actually been caught in a nuclear blast. That dream? Yeah, where like you just see everything just getting pulverized in front of you, and you're like, here we go!

And then I just wake up, and I'm like, oh, shit, okay, good. That shit is trippy, right? Yeah. A lot of time, I just do this shit where I'm like, no, it's a dream. I just wake up before the fucking shit hits you, and then I wake up. Is it the wave of fire from Terminator 2? Is that where you're nuclear? It's not.

I'm not quite watching my children play in a playground. I'm holding onto a chain link fence. But it's that version where it's a wave. Yeah. It's coming at you as a wave. Or those old test videos from the 50s, you see like the shack and black and white just like that or i'm in a high-rise building in an earthquake and i'm at the top floor and the building comes down sideways yeah i'm at the top of the ocean i've definitely had that one and then

i just do the just wake up yeah get me out of here. I have one where it's like a tsunami and you just see the wave over your head. Oh, wow. That is really terrifying. Yeah. That's actually something that I – Yeah, it's really pretty. For one moment, I found a bit of peace. That was like my favorite thing to do in the ocean was just sit there and let a wave just hammer you, come into you.

So yeah, I definitely gave myself some backer. Oh, you mean just to kind of feel the power of the sea yeah yeah yeah just get destroyed by it yeah yeah that's so funny i was with somebody or i went on a trip i think it's like i forget i was at some beach and people thought i was weird because i was just kind of being like yo i just want to this wave to fucking crush me right and just to kind of be like i don't know there was something about feeling the power of the earth that felt like that that was a sensation i can totally understand like how lame people with puka shell necklaces like get real into surfing and we'll be like nah man it's like being one with it because i used to like just body surf and oh yeah that's like an addictive

feeling like because you're like inside the ocean you know so you get slammed yeah how many times you get fucking slammed uh not too bad jersey shore is pretty pretty weak waves all right bro um you gotta respect the good way but uh dreams i'm trying to figure out a way that we can talk about dreams uh or like have a segment about dreams on our show because i do think that like if we're talking about the zeitgeist like what people are dreaming about like i i do think that there's like you know shared dreams and shared shit that happens in our unconscious that uh be i i just we need to find a way to talk about it where it's not just you know okay what was your dream last night and somebody telling us about their teeth falling out or something so we'll work on that uh maybe just a question we ask yeah we start asking and then over time we can be like what'd you dream about

yeah just like a dream and then we'll have a we can be like, what did you dream about? What's the last dream you remember? Just like a dream chart. And then we'll have a chart and be like, okay, we're trying to see some dream map. Yeah, like they're all connected. Lamar, what's something that is underrated? Underrated? I think Sinbad's underrated. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I saw Sinbad on Instagram the other day. I think he's going to be in a show. And I was like, yo, hold up. People don't talk about Sinbad enough. And I started thinking about all, hold up. People don't talk about Sinbad enough. And I started thinking about all the movies he was in. And I feel like I grew up watching him. He's like one of my favorite.

He might be one of my favorite comedians. He is one of my favorite comedians that I forget is one of my favorite comedians. Yeah, like when someone says, who's inspired you to do comedy? Like, you never go Sinbad. I always talk about people from In Living Color first. Yeah, right, right. And then, but I realized Sinbad, I saw about people from In Living Color first or something like that right right and then but I realized Sinbad I saw him more

because he was so clean yeah that it was it wasn't like a journey you don't have to pull like a fucking weird maneuver to watch like an R-rated film like Sinbad's movies

were just right like First Kid that movie was dope or Jingle All The Way like he was hilarious love Jingle All The Way love House Guest House Guest

House Guest was amazing I love House they have that bit in House Guest where he's pretending to be someone he's not, right? And the guy's a vegan or a vegetarian. Right. And the guy keeps eating McDonald's around him. And he just wants to eat McDonald's like the whole movie.

It's so funny. I just think about, man, he was in Coneheads? Unnecessary Roughness? Yeah, he was in Unnecessary Roughness yeah he wasn't unnecessary yeah yeah what else oh the meteor man the cherokee kid i used yeah classics classic yeah he's a rent his stand-up blockbuster yeah those were because also he was really like animated as a stand-up too like he loved to do characters and things like that it wasn't just joke joke joke joke joke like right yeah he had there was it was more experience experiential and performative all those live shows are like i have

this image of him i feel like when i was at my grandma's house a long time ago and he he came on late at night and he was doing a show and it was like caribbean music and there was like but he was playing the bass i was like what is going what is simbad doing but yeah it was like a full-on concert yeah like i guess he yeah I guess he plays music too. I'm like, man, people don't talk about him enough. So I'm here to talk about Sinbad. Yeah, please. All for the entire show.

Yeah. We will find a way to tie everything back to Sinbad. You know what his real name is? David Adkins. Oh, man. He chose wisely going with a good branding. Yeah. Good AKA Sinbad. Good AKA, Simba.

What is something you think is overrated? I don't know if this is a hot take, but – There's no such thing here. Frosting. I don't like – Frosting? I don't like frosting on cakes. I like it visually.

I like looking at it, but I don't like eating that shit. Aesthetically, I'm on board. Yeah, yeah. It looks – you can do cool shit with it, but when I get a cupcake, I get it completely wiped off. Yeah. I like the cake part. Sorry for y'all frosting lovers out there. So do you eat any kind of frosting?

No, no. Even like – I mean because I know like if you get the shitty like Kroger cupcakes from the bakery, like that's just sugar sludge on top versus one from Sprinkles or whatever. That's basically just like chocolate or some other like really decadent flavor on top. You're just – what is it? Too overwhelming for you? Yeah, it's too overwhelming. Or the texture? All of that.

Yeah, just too much and it takes away – to me it takes away from the cake. Do you like red velvet cake? I do, yeah yeah do you like it with the cream cheese frosting you scrape the cream cheese frosting you know what i'm okay with that maybe okay see it's slightly it's different than traditional for the c and i know i that's why i felt like i understood where you're coming from yeah because i don't know you feel me right yeah i don't like a lot of just sheet cakes that you get right fucking frost frosting is just gross. It's just – it's not adding anything aside from what you're saying visually being like, oh, colors and sweetness. Right, right. Whereas like on a red velvet cake, that cream cheese frosting is just Flavortown and it's part of the thing.

Flavortown USA? Flavortown – no, Flavortown South Africa. Okay. I love frosting. I will eat just garbage Kroger frosting just by the handful. Don't get me wrong. A funfetti cake? Yeah.

I would eat the shit out of that garbage frosting. But do you like it more than the cake part? Or is it like it has to be put together? I will have some cake with my frosting, but I prefer – I go heavy on the frosting. Cake on the side. I'm basically the opposite of you. I just do a bowl of frosting. So, yeah, next time you eat a cupcake, just call Jack and be like, yo, I got a napkin.

You want to split this with me? I'm here for you. Can we do it this weekend? I got a couple birthday parties this weekend. Five-year-old birthday parties. Yeah, I got a lot of kids. But I get to keep defining Nemo Ring on top of the frosting. All right.

I want to try something different format-wise. Let's go right into the myth. Someone was pointing out the myth kind of belongs up here with these things. Fuck it. Let's give it a try. What is a myth that people believe to be true, Lamar, that you know to be false? Oh, OK. Here's a myth that I think I'm not sure how many people still believe it, but I think

there was a time where people believed it. I think people believe that hip hop was dead dead for a while and i don't think hip-hop is dead i think it's actually very much alive and i remember when naz came out with the album hip-hop is dead and i think there was like an overwhelming consensus that like it sort of died with biggie and tupac and i think no one's ever said like hip-hop is still alive or no i feel like now i should come back and say i was wrong my bad yeah because it was like we never talked about it again we were just like yeah hip-hop it did so true so true anyways what's the next great hip-hop album yeah uh yeah i agree that that seemed to be kind of overstated yeah one of those cultural a lot of good rap

coming out also because i just got a new car, and they have the SiriusXM radio in it. And I've just been listening to all this hip-hop streaming. This is an ad for SiriusXM. That's what this is. And it's wonderful. Yeah. Listen to Sirius, not podcasts. But yeah, I was like, oh, my God,

because I'm speaking to myself, too. Like, I don't, you know, this is me also, because I kind of stopped listening to hip-hop for a while and i was like no there's so much good rap out right and it's a lot different now and it's creative it's great i love it yeah he declared hip-hop dead before kendrick lamar released his first album right yeah it was 2006 so yeah because we had already hit peak bling bling rap with 50 cent right and like that whole like sort of clapping gun shit was kind of getting like worn out basically. Right.

Right. And now we've entered the hey, everybody's fucked up on meds. Right. Era of rap. Which is cool. And also like I also like the sort of sort of gender fluidity of some rappers too that kind of make people uncomfortable. They're like, oh, this dude is gay or he looks. But that's what we're seeing is the evolution of a fucking genre.

Like it's not about just this hyper-aggressive masculine version of rap. It is an art form, and you can tailor it to who you are. If you said rock and roll was dead, that would have been accurate. In 2006, it's like, yeah, man, nobody listens to that shit anymore. It had its dying gasps. Because if you think, too, he also when apparently when nas was saying this he made a comment to his like when i say hip-hop is dead basically america is dead there's no political voice music is dead our way of thinking is dead our commerce is dead so like we're in the depths

of the bush 2 arrow too yeah and i think dark time yeah so i think this is just before the the sunlight of obama too right kind of feeling like fuck man like we can't do shit like george buster do whatever the fuck he wants yeah wow that's full circle huh yeah well yeah uh let's get into the format guys we're trying to take a sample of what people are thinking and talking about right now uh and we wanted to start out with uh kind of a news peg this uh so kanye is in the news uh for a couple reasons first of all uh i guess he he's been holed up in uh jackson hole wyoming yeah uh which is like this you know very gorgeous like lush uh nature town looks like crazy yeah crazy views of you know uh mountains and Tetons. Yeah. And, you know, he's there for recovery purposes, but all of a sudden all these artists started

visiting him and people... We don't know if they're visiting him, but a lot of people were posting pics in Jackson Hole and we can only assume... Travis Scott, The Dream, King Louie, Kanye's cousin, who's featured on a bunch of his albums, Tony Williams, all suddenly are in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, which is not normally known for its diversity. That's not the Miami for what Miami is for hip hop. People are like, yeah, Jackson Hole, my God. Make a lot of white people uncomfortable. Right.

guy right make a lot of white people uncomfortable right uh but no i mean because when he was doing um my beautiful dark twisted fantasy he did the same thing in hawaii right like he made that whole album in hawaii and basically had everyone come to him to do this so i mean look it follows a pattern he was there like i think last year but they say like there's reporting now that he's there again and yeah when you couple that with this i just don't i'm curious to know what this album sounds like because clearly pablo was made while he was in the midst of like free-falling mentally yeah yeah he was in a manic period uh he was i think he had been it was kind of like that too yeah the way he came out yeah to impress for yeezus was also kind of like yeah so what is he is he actually in recovery right now for? Or is that – he's just – is that a cover?

I think they've kept it kind of vague. Yeah. Like I think maybe there was some drug stuff. There was also some bipolar stuff and he like went off his meds and then maybe got into some substances. But yeah, it's been vague like that. Like ESPN's John Skipper's latest interview, if anybody has seen that. He's like – talks all around like what actually happens. Very, very weird.

But that's also a substance abuse thing. But anyways, so the other reason that we've been talking about Kanye at the office is because somebody released a Kanye madness bracket. released a Kanye Madness bracket. As the March Madness brackets came out on Sunday, somebody put out a bracket of Kanye's what they deemed to be Kanye's

64 best songs pitted against one another. They have it color-coded by album, which is really useful. And I appreciate them for doing this because it's a it's a great presentation uh it's a lot of fun uh the conversations we've been having uh i just

think they're way off base with their taste but i mean that's gonna happen that's just going to uh happen with you know something as subjective as music, but in particular, Kanye's music, because there are so many people who are like, I only liked Kanye's first two albums. That's me. And then everything sucks after that. I personally have really enjoyed his more recent stuff a lot. And I think the person who created this bracket might be more in line with you, Miles. Might be me.

Yeah. The one seeds Jesus walks. Oh, college dropout. Touch the sky. Uh-oh. All falls down. And it can't tell me nothing is the only one that isn't off the first two. Which is off the third.

Yeah. So, yeah. Very early. It's all like early sped up. But then the twos, you know, the twos are also, you know, I mean, it's, look early but then the twos you know the twos are also yeah i mean it's look all i'm gonna say is uh last call wins over everything for me personally i just love i have an emotional attachment to last call i can't objectively say it's the best kanye song but emotionally it's my favorite i think it's the most kanye song it is the most kanye kanye song because it is him just

talking about himself about himself over a beat for eight minutes being yeah and it's like putting yeah it's just his sort of tireless fascination with himself and like with telling his own story and it's just such a great beat it yeah it is weird looking at it like you it takes you down memory lane like how much kanye has changed you know he's like his music changes so much it's really hard to i like all of his i like everything he's done but yeah it's it's tough to like looking at all falls down i was like god that's a totally different person yeah my 50 seconds of fame and coming this year with the whole fucking game i mean because you know why he's still hungry this is so humble Kanye, like as if there were such a thing.

I mean, obviously. Mr. O Kanye. Yeah. But like he's still obviously gassed up on his own accomplishments, but he's still talking like he really has a point to prove. Now Kanye is in the, I've proved everything. Fuck you. I'm God. Which that version resonates less with me than someone who's confident in himself and still has a humility to know that he has things to achieve or is not perfect but

talking about the subjectivity and this person hating uh certain kanye projects like uh yeezus which is one of my favorite kanye albums uh the seeding is they only have four songs from it and bound two is a 10 seed uh black skinheads is a 13 new slaves is an 11 and blood on the leaves is a 13 so like which all seem like all seem like classic classic songs uh and they're all treated like underdogs what's your wait you said use is one of your favorites yeah or is it your favorite or twisted fantasy is yours probably twisted fantasy but it's up there what about you one more uh late registration is yeah my favorite yeah crack music is number 60 yeah i love the production on late because i think uh john bryan yeah came on that to help basically

be like let me show you how like someone like really produces an album or executive produces an album yeah and yeah you can really feel that touch on like because it was almost the the refined version of college dropout with john bryant on there yeah yeah touch the sky is a one seed uh heard him say as a six seed i really love that song ultra light beams as 12 is a little bit i feel like it could be higher yeah no so and then pablo which i also love uh the real friends is a 13 seed famous is a 14 seed real friends is a great song but i love that song and that i think to go back to your point of people of like him sort of like not being hungry anymore it feels like what he's trying to do if i could try to get in his head a little bit he's sort of like using himself as an experiment like with his fame

right and like you're because he's his music is sort of starting to mirror his his what he's becoming yeah yeah yeah and it's like uh it's hard to relate to but it's also like interesting to watch him become that person but also rap about that yeah because on real friends he's talking about real like he's kind of he's being very introspective he's like right man like i can already tell people just hit me up for shit that i want i hit people up for shit just when i need something yeah you know i've been potentially extorted by a cousin right like all that kind of stuff yeah it's that's why i think maybe i think that's one of the reasons why i think i really liked life of pablo as one of his albums. There was like a humanity – or not that there was a lack of humanity, but it felt a little more real or that he was like vulnerable.

Yeah, I mean we've all been there when we're having sex with a porn star and she's just bleached her asshole and then it gets on your t-shirt. On your t-shirt, yeah. That happened to me last night. Does that make me an asshole? Yeah. No, no. Don't be too hard on yourself. Yeah.

Should we just fuck right here in the middle of this vogue party shut down the whole party would everybody start fucking i mean like i mean would everybody start fucking if that's not a direct quote from me i mean yeah yeah uh what do we fuck here right in the middle of dinner table that's a real freestyle because he's just like free associating at that point he's like yep this is real life uh i forgot to mention up top that this is trump free thursdays and there's plenty of stuff we could be talking about but we will not be talking about because it is trump free thursdays trump free thursdays that was the oh the shannon coffee bumper all right any final thoughts on Kanye, guys?

I guess everyone, pick yours. I already said Last Call with my crazy-ass hot take when everybody was like, how the fuck do you like that song? But anyway, Last Call is my favorite on that list. Favorite song? Just because I can sing everything, and it makes me cry. By my mama person. That's she Louis Vuitton mom.

Maybe Drive Slow, New Slaves. a person that's your louis vuitton mom uh maybe drive slow new slaves uh those are those are probably two of my favorite and mercy is probably my favorite kanye song but that's not on here because they decided to uh not not have cruel summer on here i like yeah i like uh crack music obviously obviously. We major. Jesus Walks is great. But pick one, guys. You're not picking one. It's so exciting because it's like reminding me of all the songs.

That's the problem with this bracket, too. I'm just having to be myopic and not really think and just be like. Can I tell you what I don't like? I don't like the new workout plan. I realize I don't like that as I'm looking at this. Miri Ben-Ari, I hope you're safe out there. I hope you made a career doing hip-hop fiddle. Remember, she had a fucking moment, though. She was on so many Rockefeller songs.

She was on a couple of Twista songs. They were like, yo, do you got that Israeli violin player on the track? Yeah, yeah. She was killing it. Yeah. And people were like, shit, she's playing Dre on violin. I've never seen this. My body's blown.

This shit is crazy. Violins and hip-hop. Yeah, we major. I'll say we major. Okay, we major. I'll say seen this. Bye-bye, slow. This shit is crazy. Violins and hip-hop. Yeah, we major. I'll say we major. Okay, we major. I'll say new slaves. Okay, there we go. Boom.

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We're going to talk about a question I got on Twitter from Julie Bouchard, who is she says, I live in a blue pocket of Georgia. But whenever I talk locally about reducing number of gun deaths, I get lots of anti-abortion blowback. They're saying that we can't do anything about gun deaths because abortion is still legal. Have you seen this trending elsewhere? And I have. I've suddenly seen this all over the place i've been seeing it on twitter like there's uh this tweet i've seen a number of places by a gentleman named david harsan ye uh that says can we get some pro-life walkouts next week i'm sure school administrators will market an excused absence uh i think he's using sarcasm there and we don't know that right yeah maybe right you got it all wrong he's just certain of there. We don't know that. Right. Yeah, maybe.

Right. You got it all wrong. He's just certain of that. I'm sure the whole market has an excused absence. Okay, moving on. Here's some helpful information. Not really a hot take, depending on how you read it. Right.

Yeah, exactly. So we were talking about this this morning. I mentioned that I got this question, and we caused like an hour and a half sidebar in our writer's room this morning. I mentioned that I got this question and we caused like an hour and a half sidebar in our writer's room this morning. So we wanted to talk about it on air because this actually started. So, Miles, you were doing a little research and this actually started as a thing that liberals were saying in order to argue for gun control. Well, there was yet. I mean, I've seen a lot of responses to this one op-ed in The Washington Post, which I think may have been last year. But anyway, there was an op-ed in The Washington Post that said, why don't pro-lifers act against our deadly gun culture? And in it, it was basically essentially saying like, well, if you're so – if you're about the sanctity of life, then you should also be caring about gun control because you're

trying, we're trying to prevent unneeded deaths. Right. And then from there that, you know, triggered a slew of response pieces from conservative writers and pundits about why if you're pro-gun, you can actually be pro-life as well. And that, you know, to be pro-life doesn't mean you have to be pro-gun control. Right. So now it's coming from the other direction, though. The way I'm hearing it more often is from people who are anti-gun control, pro-NRA and pro-life being like, well, you know, how can you be for gun control but not or how can you be pro-life and for gun control, essentially?

It's so confusing. Yeah, it's weird. It's I felt like I was back in logic class. I was I was a philosophy major. I had to take logic class and I was like bending my brain about around. But it does seem it's basically a false equivalency. Either way, whoever's making it, it seems like it's aimed at dragging the gun control debate into a much sort of murkier, unwinnable, like almost unhappable argument. Like nobody, nobody has ever won an abortion argument.

an abortion argument. It's just, you know, because it has to do with religious feelings. And, you know, people just generally are coming from very different places. So if you want to completely end an argument, it seems like this is a good direction to take it, which the fact that now people who are pro NRA antigun control are trying to drag the gun control debate, tie it to response to people trying to say that to be pro-life means you should also be pro-gun control. Right. Because again, I don't think that argument really tracks either even from the left to say that, oh, if you're pro-life, you have to be pro-gun control because there's no real logical framework that you can compare the two to begin with, like on either side of it. So they're not, you know, like, cause a lot of people like in the national review, one of the, there's a piece called, no, you don't have to support gun control to be pro-life.

And their whole argument is this sort of like, you know, uh, whereas, uh, an abortion is an action, a gun is an object. So like, we can't logically talk about the two being connected or whatever. I mean like it's funny. It's one of those things too where the response to a liberal piece that had like the sort of flawed logic of it is now being sort of used in the same direction. I would refer you to a couple years ago when my side was making this bullshit argument and your side made the good point that this argument is bullshit um but yeah i mean it now seems like it's nra people assuming they're talking to pro-life pro-gun control people so they're it seems like people are assuming now

more and more people are pro-gun control yeah and i would just say to them like look being pro-choice means you don't want to force someone into a decision that they don't want to make. You want to give that person the agency over their body to decide how they want to conduct their life. Saying you can't buy assault rifles anymore. That's not comparable. And that's, that's, those are completed. And I don't think anyone could say, well, it's like a gun isn't a sentient thing or, you know what I mean? Like it's just, it's a very, I get why people would do that because yeah, it's, it's like a gun isn't a sentient thing. You know what I mean? Like it's just – it's a very – I get why people would do that because, yeah, it's hard to sort of cape for assault rifles right now. And, yeah, why not just bring up, well, then you should care about these unborn children or whatever.

Yeah, but I mean nobody has ever said that gun homicides and gun suicides are a good thing or aren't bad. No. gun homicides and gun suicides are a good thing or aren't bad. No. And, you know, gun control people trying to actually have this argument. You know, there are all sorts of philosophical differences between the two sides on the abortion debate, whether religious and humanists think abortion is murder or not. But nobody is saying, no, gun homicides and gun suicides are justified. And the laws that gun control people are arguing for have been shown in all cases to lower gun homicides and gun suicides.

So the dangers that having a gun avoids are mostly hypothetical and completely unsubstantiated by statistics. And in fact, people who are pro-guns try and hide those statistics. And you think about the danger women are in when they're in a situation where abortion is not an option. And your only option is to put yourself in some kind of danger because you can't get sort of a properly regulated, medically supervised abortion. They're not the same thing. And also I think the idea of pro-life people Right like that's all sort of fundamentally

Bound in the idea of their faith Or their religion There are also many evangelist preachers Who have also written pieces who say You can actually not be Like pro-gun and pro-life Do not go hand in hand Because they you know this one preacher

Brings up in this one i think is also in the washington post he's like look i'm an evangelical preacher like i've this is a take like i've been preaching for 41 years blah blah blah and i always get ripped up when i say that we cannot actually be pro-gun and pro-life uh because he was saying that there's a quote he's like to me turning from christian to secular sources for a paramount moral question indicates a failure in faith because he was taking things like people like Ted Cruz say, you know, the only way to get rid of bad guys is with guns or whatever. You know what I mean? Or Sarah Palin says don't waste – ammo is expensive. Don't waste your money on a warning shot.

That sort of thinking has entered – like that's the logic a lot of people who are people of faith quote unquote are applying to this argument because like you know if you're really fundamentally believing you know the Bible or whatever you have to take the words that are in the Bible where they're saying bless those who curse you right, it's a deeply I don't think Jesus likes guns

it's a deeply pacifist religion God never said yo motherfucker, motherfucking – strap up and wherever – like, you know. Right, yeah. I mean, that's definitely more of an Old Testament thing. Right. Yeah, the Old Testament. But, yeah, so –

Eye for an eye type shit, but – Right, and this person sort of says – he's like, it's very interesting because this is sort of a split between the evangelical – the title of evangelical or Christian kind of gets muddied, especially in this country where, you know, he's saying assuming a permanently defensive posture against others, especially when it includes a willingness to kill, is inimical to a life of faith. Yeah, there's sort of a schism going on in the evangelical community. that there's an interesting article in The Atlantic by somebody who went to a evangelical Christian school, studied, you know, the history of evangelism and evangelical Christianity in America. And he was like, you know, this is I based my life around this because this is a historically great religion. They were abolitionists. They were you know, they were on the right side of history throughout history. And now, you know they were on the right side of history throughout history and now you know pointing to the fact that a lot of different organizations

are having to take the word evangelical out of their name because evangelism and evangelical christianity is being specifically tied to you know nra like pro gun gun rights stuff and right you know trump essentially uh but we don't talk about him on thursdays well right and it's also funny because people always bring up this argument of of when conservatives are show no compassion you know and but they say they're people of faith it's like well how can you look at people who are in a situation destitute who are looking to better themselves? And you're like, no, I'm not going to help. Right. And also, you know, I think what's interesting about the movement right now is they're specifically going after the NRA, like the way that they're influencing the government. And it's like like you're saying, like these organizations somehow like infiltrated this this Christian movement.

So like NRA and like all these things that they don't believe in or have become synonymous with being a christian which i think is uh you know not fair to christians too no i mean because yeah there are plenty of people who really do go by the word of god as they read it in the bible and say like i'm here because i believe that god will protect me i i show love to others i you know know, I'm here to be compassionate. I don't have to, like, revenge is not mine. You know, God will take that. You know what I mean?

So it's tough. And it kind of goes along with, like, this study that came out in the Scientific American about sort of, like, what NRA people even kind of look like or, like, what the sort of makeup is. the sort of makeup is there was a like a study i guess at baylor university sociologists they created a gun empowerment scale that was designed to measure how a nationally representative sample of almost 600 owners felt about their weapons and the people who felt most emotionally and morally attached to their guns were 78 white and 65 male uh and they said in this study said we found that white men who have experienced economic setbacks or worry about their economic futures are the group of owners most attached to their guns. Because they also have this idea of like they also don't trust the government. They think about the nation.

And when they sort of delved into what they believe the nation, they found that that sort of meant white America. And a lot of the people, too, they interview people who applied for concealed carry permits in the state of Texas. And a lot of people were sort of had this sentiment about basically they think there's an impending race war. Essentially, they feel because Obama became president, he was empowering minorities to begin like taking the power back from people. So this is their way to sort of maintain their masculinity or their their power over the over. Yeah. Well, they're like you know i'm from georgia and like i think also the states it's like a state issue too because they're like some states are just like georgia's like we there's an open carry state so people just got guns like all the time

like people i knew in high school like they had guns in their house and i was actually there not too long ago and i remember um i was going into the. It was like a nightclub. And it was mostly black club. And this white guy walked up. And he had like all these – it was like an older white guy. And literally the bouncer pat him down. And he had like a gun on his side. And he was like – the bouncer was like, you can't bring this in here.

And he was like – I was like, what the fuck? Everybody in the line was like, oh, my God, this guy's trying to bring a gun in here. But it wasn't like a panic. It was just like, oh, he forgot to put it in his car. Yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, I forgot to. But he was like, I'm not going in there without my gun. And like started arguing with the bouncer.

And the bouncer was like, well, you could talk to police if you want to bring it in, but you can't bring it in here. And it was weird. It almost felt like he felt like he needed to be protected in this environment. Like he was like, well, I'm going to club with my wife or whatever. And there's all these black people in here. If anything goes down, I want to have my gun. But it's just that fear. I think the people are, you know, it's too much fear going on, I think, is the problem. Well, yeah, and they also put a difference between how, like, women and people of color,

how they own guns, view guns differently than what men do. Along with this sort of thing in Scientific American, they're talking about there was a study in the CDC that they put out that white men are also the most likely to commit suicide using a gun in time of economic distress. They said a white man is three times more likely to shoot himself than a black man, while the chances that a white man will be killed by a black man are extremely slight most murders and shootouts don't happen between strangers they unfold within social networks among people the same race i mean we kind of knew all this stuff but you know it kind of shows that the sort of there is also a warped uh relationship that people do have to guns because they said a lot of people who are religious don't have the same sort of moral uh conviction or to say like oh i i need to have this gun who are people of faith versus like sort of people who are not religious, who are really the hardcore, like not going to take my guns. They really see that as a way to regain their masculinity, which, you know, as this article says, they perceive has been eroded by increasing economic impotency.

So, yeah, I mean, like I've always said, turn the other cheek is a total cuck move, man. Yeah. Jesus sounds like a real pussy. Yeah, yeah. A real cuck. I'm sorry. I went to Christian school. I felt bad. I'm not of the faith.

So we'll be praying for a little while now. Give us a moment. But yeah, so I think – We should gasp for a minute. Yeah, for that person asking, yeah, you know, look, these are not really comparable things because, you know, like even look at the guy who just won in Pennsylvania, Conor Lamb, said, I'm Catholic. I don't believe in it, but I do believe that a human being has a right to decide what they want to do with themselves no matter what. And that's sort of fundamentally what this country is based on. And I would also remind them separation of church and state.

Right. Yeah. But yeah, I mean there's a lot of different ways that the whole, you know, this ties to other arguments like immigration. The evangelical position like politically in America seems to be tied towards like not welcoming immigrants into the country it's like there there are a lot of different ways that you can kind of point to overall philosophy and be like wait how are you for all these other things and not for this like so the fact that they're trying to point out a contradiction uh to you i would just say you might feel good about them bringing up the idea of beliefs that contradict themselves because you you win that argument every time. And again,

like I said, this in the footnotes, you'll see, uh, this piece written by this evangelical preacher who he's using the Bible to basically say like why, you know, it's easy in the wake of a terrorist attack or some kind of mass shooting

that you would have this impulse to protect yourself. But he says, evangelicals must be careful that the noble language of self-defense is not used to cloak a more insidious lust for revenge. As St. Paul wrote to persecuted Christians, do not take revenge,

my dear friends, but leave room for God's wrath for it is written, it's mine to avenge. I will repay. God don't need guns. He got fire and waves and hurricanes.

Waves and really horrible dreams. Yeah. Horrible nightmares. He told me. Yeah. But there are examples, like this article about the schism in evangelical Christianity is talking about how Catholicism is an example of a type of Christianity that went in on immigrants. Like they're like I think 50 percent of modern American Catholics are immigrants or recent immigrants to the country.

And, you know, that is like a different way that they could have taken it. But it seems like they're closing it off. The public face of evangelical Christianity has gone in a very specific, very exclusively white direction that I don't know. I don't know. That's never good for a movement or any group to just be sort of isolated off by themselves without any input from outside groups. Hey, speaking of not being isolated and off by yourself, we have a new scientific finding. Science. Nah.

Nah, miss me with that shit. All right. Never mind. No. So the New York Times published an article about how reporting on – studied a group of elderly bicyclists who keep cycling into their old age and found that they actually – like their bodies look like the bodies of younger people, which isn't totally surprising because – How old is now? Look, I've seen – I've not seen a 70 year old person with 30 year old's body right unless it's that really buff doctor that's in all the in-flight magazines i think they're talking 65 plus oh okay yeah so i mean that's pretty old but yeah i guess internally they look

30 uh between 50 between 55 and 79 was the study wow um and i don't know this is something that i was really surprised about when i found out a couple years ago that when you look at people who retire at like 55 versus people who retire at like 65 or 70 and have to keep working. Like there's this idea that I always had that we work ourselves to death and like we work too hard in this country. And they've actually found that people – The only country people working themselves to death in Japan are like Qatar where they're building the World Cup stadium. Right. And that is – it turns out not a problem for Americans. Like the thing that kills most Americans and most people actually who are of retirement age is just standing still.

Like boredom. Yeah. So our writer, Sam Roudman, said it's helpful to start thinking about our life as a slow-mo version of the hit action thriller Crank. Oh, with Jason Statham. Yeah, with Jason Statham, where you have to like keep moving or else you die. Basically the premise of that movie is if you yeah it's like speed except with his heart if his heartbeat goes below a certain number of beats per minute he dies and so he has to just like keep going keep going um or just do meth into your old age yeah yeah

no that's also i also i will look at it literally as being like crank right and i'll just do that right but but i guess this makes sense because you know the as the old buddhist proverb goes use it or lose it right uh so yeah if you are don't have a need to begin using your skills i see this especially my grandparents right like my grandma who has dementia but like in her older age she just like sort of became less and less interested in the kinds of things that she used to really do like scrabble she used to play wars with friends all the time or uh like sudoku and stuff like that and she kind of just sort of began to kind of not want to do it anymore she did but she i guess i don't know if that's just sort of her natural cognitive decline but obviously like though when she stopped doing

that it seemed like like you know senility and those things kind of yeah much quicker yeah yeah is it what kind of stuff do they want us to do? Like ride bikes or just any kind of movement? Yeah. Just active in general? Any kind of movement. Walk around the mall. I think a lot of old people do that. Yeah.

Is that enough though? Because cycling is pretty like – Cycling. That's not a leisure thing. I don't know. Talk to your doctor. Walking the mall is going to make your body look like dirty. All of our elderly listeners who are listening to us for health advice, talk to your doctor

before you undertake any sort of physical activity. People who are below 40 telling you about how to live forever. Right. Maybe we should change the word retire to something else then. Right. Like, yeah. It's called lazy as fuck. Yeah, we got to get out.

We got to get a move. Just to shame them a little bit. Every time you see an old person sitting down. Yeah, it's like they're just dying slowly. Retirement? You mean giving up? Hmm. All right.

Sorry for the bad news, people who are like a couple days away from retirement. Well, as long as you do some shit, you can be retired and still be like, well, look, now I have more time to bicycle. Yeah, you say that. But then cut to five years later, you're just sitting on that lazy boy watching fox news yeah yeah steven seagal movies right oh yeah basically that sounds like a good way to go though too yeah yeah my grandfather watched steven seagal movies that's all he was doing every time really that's how he'd be watching steven seagal like without fail it was a steven seagal yeah he had all of them yeah i. Wow. Even the new ones? Even the straight-to-DVD video ones?

Well, not when he was in a DMX movie. Not when he was older. I guess he's an old guy who still kept moving physically. He's 65. He releases like six movies a year still. It's just they're really bad. They're directed by him and like he just uh doesn't like he's seated in chairs most of the time oh really and then they'll cut to an action

scene where it's like clearly a body double uh oh really so he's not he's not even doing like his simple like disarming moves no i think he probably still does those but yeah because i feel like the glimmer man is when it started kind of getting weird. Yeah. That's – I mean, Keenan Ivory Wayans will never be an action star, but shout out to him for trying. Yeah. I don't know, man. Half Past Dead is pretty good. Steven Seagal is.

He plays Sasha Petrosovich, which is fitting that he played a Russian in that. Right. Because now he's, I guess, Russian. Vladimir Putin. All right, we're going to take a quick break, and then we'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life.

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You weren't lying. Here we are. So, guys, there's been a lot of depressing news about dogs. I don't even know if I want to talk about it. All right. All right. Fuck it. Uh, no, there's the overhead bin thing, which is just depressing as fuck.

And then there's a teacher in, uh, I think Iowa or Idaho. I always get them confused. Uh, who fed a sick puppy to a snapping turtle. What? In front of his class. Like to, as an illustration of, I guess, like life being unfair and horrible. I don't know what the fuck he was doing. Hold on. Okay. Here's, wait.

A teacher in Preston, Idaho feeds puppy to turtle. What the fuck? It says nation freaks out, but not in Preston, Idaho. Yeah. They don't give a fuck. Oh my God. It says in a small town, death and killing are often visible parts of life, especially for farm kids. They might hunt deer. Their families breed cattle for slaughter, my God. It says, in a small town, death and killing are often visible parts of life, especially for farm kids.

They might hunt deer. Their families breed cattle for slaughter. But feeding an ailing puppy to a snapping turtle? I guess that's what this guy did. Details remain fuzzy. But I guess. The details are fuzzy. Yeah.

It just sounds like he fed a fucking aging dog. Details remain fuzzy and adorable. Was the dog dead? Or was it, like, alive? They said ailing. So you can't be ailing and dead. What's a puppy? I don't know. I don't know.

It is one of those things that until we get more solid details, we probably don't even want to talk about it because it – like the Tide Pod eating thing might just be a fake story that people – Well, no, because it's not a fake story because like – meanwhile, PETA where people were like, oh my god, this is crazy. It said as of Wednesday afternoon, more than 2,500 people had signed a petition to Preston School Board expressing their support for the teacher. In Preston? Yeah. Because they're just like, yo, man, these kids are fucking, they're too soft.

Where is this report appearing? In the LA Times. Yeah, I don't trust that. Yeah, the failing LA Times. Failing LA Times. Yeah, I mean, because they're saying, yeah, people like a parent wrote, none of the kids were upset or traumatized. They do not need counseling. They saw the physical state of the very young puppy.

It was sick, wouldn't accept food, and was dying. There was like a put it out as misery type thing. That is not the way you put an animal out of their misery. That sounds like a slow, horrible death. Feeding it to a modern day fucking dinosaur. Also, why would you do that to a turtle too? And it's not like a

fucking lion where it could probably murk that thing with one bite. A snapping turtle, obviously the jaws are very quick or whatever, but it's like a fucking lion where it could probably, you know, murk that thing with one bite. A snapping turtle, obviously the jaws are very, you know, quick or whatever, but it's still a fucking turtle. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if I've seen a turtle, like, wolf down a puppy that quick from the videos I've seen on the internet. Right.

And you've looked for them. And I look for them. I curate a website called Puppies Eating Turtles. Puppies Eating Turtles. That's how you found me, Jack. Right. But, yeah, i guess a lot of people were saying like do we really live such a sheltered life that it destroys our faith in

humanity see an animal eat another animal no but just those two animals seems specifically designed to piss people off like everywhere except for your weird fucked up town i guess also what like subject oh i guess they said it was after school. Oh, never mind. After had been dismissed. It was not part of any school-directed program. Just don't kill puppies, guys. But I'm sure what he said was like, yo, kids, when the bell rings, I'm about to feed this fucking puppy. Yeah.

You want to check this out? Yeah. I'm surprised there's no video of it because that's like the kind of shit every kid would get their cell phone out for. Yeah. These kids. There's a reason that we rooted for the mogwai instead of the gremlin and gremlins this we we like the little very cute ones we do not like the scaly green things dude uh that's right yeah and that is very cruel man that is my official

religion fuck scaly green things uh all right like uh shape of water did you watch i did actually i thought it was pretty cool uh speaking of fuck shit scaly green things yeah hey the yeah but i guess the other dog story right we have to talk about this is the united airlines like one of the stewardesses told a or flight attendants i'm sorry uh told a passenger that they needed to put their barking dog that was like in i guess tsa approved carrier into the overhead compartment, which is from what I understand, not a lot of airflow in there. And the puppy died. And United was like, we take full responsibility for this tragic accident. And like, we've never directed flight attendants to tell someone to put a living thing in an overhead bin.

So the details are a little bit strange to me. But also what to me, the reason I want to at least want to bring this one up is because senator john kennedy uh from the great state of louisiana has basically vowed to introduce legislation that he's like we'll address the animals being in overhead bins immediately because we have this unacceptable guess what because the puppy died tragically and we have to do something about it not because our kids are getting shot in school or people of color are being murdered by the police but because we can't have any more puppy deaths in overhead bins. I'm sure he has beef with United too.

That sounds like some shit. He probably just has beef with United. But who doesn't? Yeah. Seriously. Fuck that airline. I mean, not me. I am a –

So they're going to get sued, right? They should sue them, United? I mean, I'd imagine the family may or whatever or, you know, United, you know, they have money to fight the case. But it seems like they are clearly accepting responsibility. So they'll, you know, they'll do whatever they have to do. But it's just weird. I feel like if I was in that case and I know that they said it was like a mother with her like really young child and a younger daughter, I think, or two young kids. So you're already mentally juggling a lot of balls.

But if someone's like, yo, you got to put that fucking living thing up an overhead bin. I'm like, are you kidding me? That seems very dangerous. It seems like an obvious – I would be like, fuck that. Yo, let's stop the plane and we can talk about this. I paid the ticket. You told me I can bring it on.

As somebody who has traveled with dogs and puppies before, I totally identify with the urge to bring your dog with you on vacation. In my experience, it's not worth it, guys. It's a fucking nightmare. It is a disaster. I did it once, and I literally caught shit with my bare hand from getting on the carpet in the airport because I had the stress of being the guy whose dog shit in the middle of the airport. My dog was shitting, and I fucking one hand like Chris Carter caught that shit. It was crazy. And then like, but then I looked like the guy who had shit in his hand walking to the airport with no dog.

You didn't just look like that guy. You were that guy. I was a dude. Yeah. Because then the other part of that was I had to run. I had to go to a fucking. Yeah. I had to go to a garbage can, but no one saw a dog, and they just saw a dude with a handful of shit.

Yeah. So that was also what? That's terrifying. That's a double L, but could have been avoided if I just didn't bring the dog with me. Right. You just put it right in a trash can? What do you want me to fucking do? Damn, man.

That must have smelled so bad. Look. What is Kennedy going to do, though? Is he actually going to actually do anything? Or will he just talk shit? I'm sure he will. Of course he will. I mean, you know, it's such a gesture gesture but i don't know i mean he must he must

have really been shaken up by this man yeah i mean probably all his voters have dogs i guess right but you know there's a lot of shit going on going pro puppy is never a bad political move no sadly but you can't yeah gun yeah fuck it man just even with gun control and all this other shit going on like the fact that it just it's just offensive that you want to spring into action and so yeah now you want to do something yeah yeah unfortunately i am only picturing john f kennedy doing any of this so uh no i'm having a hard time getting too too mad about it yeah he said i will be filing a bill tomorrow that will prohibit airlines from putting animals in overhead bins. Violators will receive significant fines.

Pets are family, but children are not. That's right. Essentially is what they should have said. Yeah. Poor children, at least. We don't have to worry about poor children. Yeah. All right.

Are we really going to go out on dying puppies? No, no. Because we're kind of out of time. Are we really going to go out on dying puppies? Because we're kind of out of time. But we should talk about this living Portlandia sketch that happened. In Oregon. Oregon, Portland.

So a man, Alex Lovell, nearly lost his fingers, his life, and he appears to have lost the woman he loved. I'm just reading directly this article because it's just too fucking crazy to summarize otherwise the camas man is feeling pretty good quote i was just so proud for beating this samurai wannabe crazy lady with hate in her heart level 29 told the oregonian in a facebook message exchange wednesday i've been preparing my whole life for something like this now jack what is something like this? Because that was a good lead up, but what are we talking about? So his girlfriend, Emily Javier, 30, attacked and repeatedly slashed him with a samurai sword in his sleep. That is such a very specific thing for him to have been preparing his whole life for.

It's such a very specific thing for him to have been preparing his whole life for. I've been preparing to fight an angry girlfriend armed with a samurai sword. Immediately roused from sleep and beat off my girlfriend who was attacking me with a samurai sword. And then it goes into his video game playing habits. Well, because this is why, right? Right. Lovell admits he may spend a bit too much time in front of a computer screen, but he insists he never cheated. She apparently thought he was cheating and said she found some hair in the drain of their shower. I don't know how the video games come into it.

Well, he was saying he spends like 12 to 13 hours a day. Too much, my man. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's not paying attention. Training for a player on No one's battleground. he's not paying attention training for a player unknown battleground his girls over here training for right right well that's what's crazy so because of that he's like well how could i be cheating i'm fucking literally playing this video game all day like i can barely see you let alone another woman uh but she found like i guess

a dating app but he's like i don't use that shit okay well i don't know you know whatever e-athletes or eathletes can also be players too yeah he said i wasn't a sweaty nerd more of a e-athlete e-thlete e-thlete yeah yeah that's dope but the thing was look do your thing man like you're gonna play 12 to 13 hours i mean if your girlfriend's not down with that you probably shouldn't be dating anyway uh but like what's crazy is that she had basically like prepared for this because they said when they talk about the night when she attacked him he came home late ignored her uh and she went to the couple's bedroom where she had taped the samurai sword and two knives to her side of the bed so a little premeditated yeah like the end

of diehard shit where she has it like taped up so she can just grab it i think everybody in that house is playing too much video games because she's like, I'm going to shinobi this motherfucker with a samurai sword. I have like fucking tape to my side of the bed. But anyway, yeah, he woke up to her attacking him. And he was saying, I was able to Wing Chun my way to survival. He said he drew on a lifetime of kung fu films and martial arts training. Jesus. Bro, you almost died. Right. It's really weird. survival he said he drew on a lifetime of kung fu films and martial arts training jesus bro you almost died right it's really weird it's like he has this whole like internet vibe to him like that

he just like can't break out of maybe he didn't change i don't know like who would sleep with this guy right i mean he he looks dope he looks like shia labeouf and post malone mixed together oh yeah yeah he's like smiling in his wheelchair like band is up. I mean, he could be so jokey internet that he doesn't even know how to properly make sense of an attempt on his own life without being like, yeah, bruh. Wing Chung my way out of that one. What do you mean? You almost lost all your fingers. Yeah.

But. Oh, man. Fucking owned it. So. Lamar, it's been a blast having you on the daily zeitgeist so you have a film right that you wrote and produced uh what can you tell us about that yeah it's called it's a party it's about a surprise party for a rapper that never shows up uh sort of like they say it's like waiting for a good dough with rappers uh and uh yeah we're about to we had premiered it last week as a cinequest and then we're gonna show it in at atlanta film festival in april and we're yeah so it's going to be coming to a city

near you yeah uh it's a great ensemble comedy with a lot of funny people in it from tone bell to tony baker to carl tart and you said carl's the star of the movie well yeah he's one of the With a lot of funny people in it. From Tone Bell to Tony Baker. To Carl Tartt. You said Carl is the star of the movie? He's one of the stars. Also I'm in the movie too as well. I wrote it with my homie. Wild and Powers. Who directed it.

It's our first feature. It's really funny. It's great. Go check out the movie. It plays at the film festival. i know you're out there uh and carl your beloved culture king is in it also i know that's right uh lamar where can people follow you to find out about the future dates where they can oh yeah yeah follow me on instagram at it's a party the film and then you can also follow me on my personal Instagram at ProfMatic if you want to see other stuff

that's not the film but mostly it'll probably be posts about the film How do you spell ProfMatic? P-R-O-P-H-M-A-T-I-C ProfMatic Good name Miles You can find me on Twitter and Instagram

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And we have a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the articles that contain the information that we talked about in today's episode. That is going to do it for today. Miles, what are we going to ride out on today? Okay, do we do, since we were talking a lot about Kanye, do we do a Kanye remix or do we do a sample that Kanye has used? I really like that Kanye remix you were playing earlier.

Okay, so let's do this. This is a remix to Barry Bonds. That is a mashup, obviously, of the Kanye track with Lil Wayne. And DJ Signify's track, 1993, which is a really great instrumental track. Mashed together by the Hood Internet from Chicago. So, shout out to them. And, yes, it's just dope because Barry Bonds is... I like the song, but this is way better.

At least in my opinion. You can disagree with me, whatever. This is not my favorite song on that album, but this makes it work. Yep, yep. That's going to do it for today. We'll be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys then. Bye.

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And I'm still cool like Keisha's family. Stole all my waste, turned beef to patties. And I ate it, cause I'm so added. And I don't front end, I don't go backwards. And I don't practice, and I don't laugh shit. And you can get buried, but I suck my fat bitch. We outta here, baby. out of here, baby. We out of here, baby.

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