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i bought a fucking 12-foot witch i bought a fucking 12-foot witch yeah i bought a fucking 12-foot witch that is courtesy of milksteak on the discord to the tune of season of the witch which is a song that i get ak's i've gotten multiple ak's from and i hadn't heard it before the first ak and from christy yamaguchi man and now it is in the rotation in my playlist i do like it by donovan all right yeah my mom was she i remember that was one of the first bands my mom was like, you should check out this band, Donovan. And I was like, what the fuck? When did you start giving music recommendations?

But that was a very big moment for me because my mom up until then was only listening to classical music and I listened to some rock shit and she was like, you should check out Donovan. I think I only knew about Donovan because there was a feud with Bob Dylan at some point. And I was like a real Dylan head when I was a kid.

Because that was cool. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. I'm Miles Gray, a.k.a. What's go got to do, got to do with it? What's go when the point is trees and oceans? What's been go got to do, got to do with it what's go when the point is trees and oceans what's been go got to do got to do with it okay who threw some soup in a can has some flowers okay shout out to jesse jericho for that wonderful what's love got to do with it aka yeah a lot of people are like, wow, Just Stop Oil is doing a lot. And we're calling Van Gogh Go right now.

That's just a nickname for Van Gogh. I mean, I feel like you could have probably put in Van Gogh, like you could have fit Van Gogh into the lyrics, but I'm not here to give notes after the fact. I take the submissions and I bring them to life. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third and fourth seats by two very funny comedians who

together host one of my favorite podcasts radio lab it's sam taggart and george savannah hello hello hello and you know what thank you so much for bringing up donovan because we both wanted to come on here and discuss our favorite musician donovan right yeah i mean it was especially for you yeah yeah no it's an honor to be here i'm um so embarrassed that we don't have jingles to share it's really humiliating actually i mean the thing i always say is what's your what's your go-to karaoke track sam i want to know your answer to this you know mine is fear-based which is kind of, mine is fear-based, which is kind of embarrassing. Mine is, yeah, I do Modern Love by David Bowie because I can sing it well. And I feel like it has a part at the end where you get to kind of yell and you get to sort of be loose.

And it's like, it implies that you're being like off the cuff, but I do it every time. And so it's, I used to always try to do. Ball change? Yeah. Yeah. I do it every time. And so it's, I used to always try to do ball change. Yeah. Yeah. I used to always try to do, um, paparazzi,

but my voice just, it's like actually harder than you think. And I was like, do I go low or do I try to hit the high? Yeah. Actually Lady Gaga is an artist and a, and a really good vocalist. And no one's talking about it.

And no one talks about it. Yeah. We're here to correct that. Thank you. Exactly. How about you, George? I don't want to be a buzzkill, but I really... Karaoke is one of the few things that I really am anti across the board.

Really? I think similar to Sam, it's fear-based. And I think as much as I have many talents in my arsenal singing is not one of them and I feel very insecure whenever I am forced to sing into a microphone and then I one time had a really traumatic experience where as a joke I chose this song by Pink to sing at a karaoke event and then I and then this woman ended up kind of starting to sing with me and we had a little duet moment and we had kind of a moment and I thought it was very sweet. And then at the end, she was like, I don't want to get into it.

At the end, she just like looks at me and she's like, that song really reminds me of my daughter. And then just like started going into like very personal stuff that I was not really ready to kind of receive at the time. This was in rural Maine. So you can kind of fill in the blanks and so i think that was really the nail in the coffin for me but one time um someone made me cry when they sang weathering heights by kate bush at karaoke wow okay so you win some you lose some yeah why not i mean it's good to be a good to be an emotional audience member one time the dj cut me off halfway through she-Wolf by Shakira

because I was flopping so hard. Wow. See, that's my biggest fear. Because everyone's like, and whenever I express that fear, people are like, no, you know, everyone is, everyone's just like being themselves. I'm like, yeah, but what if I'm the one person who they do cut off? Because they're like, okay, well, we still want to have fun here.

Like, you're actually real painful. But you're not the one person because sam is the one that's right yeah but i feel like a good karaoke night needs the people who are not great just to make sure just to keep the levels right so people aren't completely discouraged because like there's places in la you go and you're like okay motherfucker we get it like you think this is an audition right well there are places in new york specifically around broadway they're belting that shit out right what are your guys go-tos oh this is how we've never done karaoke i know it's going to be surprising to you because

of how much i fucking nailed that donovan track but that that actually came from just me really feeling strongly about the fact that i did buy a 12-foot witch and it's the the thing i feel the most pride in about my life currently man we gotta we need a karaoke night with the team i know we do because now that now i have sung on mike and i probably and caught the bug You've caught the bug. I've caught the bug, guys. Yeah, I want to hear you sing Strong Enough by Sheryl Crow. Uh-huh. Oh, I could do that. Wow, I thought you were going to go Strong Enough by Cher. That's what I thought, too. Oh, yeah.

And that's the difference between you two and us. Yeah, exactly. Straight culture. That's the Rorschach test. You're like, Strong Enough. Go. Sheryl Crow. Sher's the Rorschach test. You're like strong enough. Go. Share. Share. All right. We are going to get to know you guys a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today. It turns out people don't like to work at Amazon. Oh, no way.

So we're going to talk about that. This is fucking newsflash. Shocking. We are going to talk about, what is it? Rainbow, Rainbow Fentanyl? Yeah, Jack. Is like the new, the new craze

that we all need to be worried about. That should be front of your mind as a parent, man. The Rainbow Fenty. All of that, plenty more, or maybe none of that. We'll see.

Before we get to it, Sam, George, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? I looked at my search history to see sort of what I've been up to. A lot of it was pretty narcissistic. A lot of it was Sam Taggart, a lot of it was Stradio Lab, a lot of it was Sam Taggart's Stradio Lab. That was kind of dark. But then I actually thought the more telling one was how heavy does something need to be for you to need to find a stud in the wall? Oh, yeah.

Because I'm trying to like hang stuff in my bedroom. I'm trying to like redo it. And I have no practical skills. And I'm also lazy. So on top of it all, I'm lazy. And I got a mirror that was too, it was like kind of heavy. And I was like, well, does does it do i have to find a stud do i have to go buy a stud finder and i did it out of safety but i wish i didn't have to i'm

always trying to cut corners wait you you wish that you could have just said fuck it we're going drywall only just yeah let go and let god i've never understood why we make walls that can't just hold everything i just don't get it i like still at one point at some point i know i'll be kind of this will come back to bite me in the ass but i'm kind of like whatever like you can put anything on the wall get ripped out yeah that's like every like uh vacuum thing i've had to put in a wall and i was like that's fine that's enough two weeks later I've had to put in a wall. And I was like, that's fine. That's enough. Two weeks later, one of the screws just flopping out.

And I'm like, shit. I guess they had a point about this whole stud thing. I'm in the similar school of thought. I'd rather not if I don't have to. Yeah, they should make better walls than trusting us. They're putting it on the individual instead of the collective action. Oh, wow. So the builders need to be doing a better job.

That's right. It's actually, and I actually also want to say, you know, it goes back to that classic tech industry slogan, ask for, don't ask for permission. Yeah. Move fast and break stuff. Move fast and break things, first of all, which is actually also applicable, but also ask for forgiveness, not permission. There you go. So, you know you know yeah like if one in every 20 times i break the wall yeah we'll cross that bridge when we get there right yeah oh

sorry my tv fell on your baby yeah yeah just to be clear both of those slogans no issues and i actually think those are my political beliefs move fast fast, break stuff. Beg for forgiveness, don't ask for permission. Right. All good. All good here in the tech industry. Yes, that's right. Letting them run things has worked out well. For all of us, I think. Yeah, Sam and I are two of the foremost technocrat podcasters out there.

How about you, George? What's something from your search history? I mean, sadly, so my during the day, I work as an editor at the new Gawker. And and so my search history is completely destroyed because of that, because every time some new personality comes up, I have to find out who they are. So I can tell you, you know, I just kind of finished a round of blog editing a couple of hours ago. editing a couple of hours ago. And a new person I found out about is Emily Ratajkowski's new potential beau, who she's seen smooching. And so we thought, you know, sometimes, you know, we do hard hitting journalism, we do kind of provocative commentary, but sometimes you got to get those clicks. And we were like, it would be fun if we did almost like a tongue-in-cheek

funny ironic sarcastic five fast facts about this guy and there were so few facts available that one of them is just he's a democrat you know what's crazy i almost clicked on that article like i was so close you could have just said i read it i almost thought about reading that i just love that that it's number five he is a quote registered oh it's razio rispo oh yeah exactly do you know who that is yeah yeah of course he's a son of a real estate exactly yeah he's like a new york kind of figure one of our one of our, yeah. He's like a New York kind of figure. One of our facts is that he's friends with Nick Kroll's wife.

Okay, good to know. I do want to shout out Fran Hoepfner who wrote this piece and did an incredible job with very little information. I mean, the one thing I figured is she's always around people who collect art. I feel like that's the one fact i feel like of her recent like uh out in society moments i feel

like she's been very close to the art world recently oh emily yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah emirata well you know the thing it's kind of a trend right now for women celebrities to date men in the art world you have emirata chloe seveny and jennifer lawrence and so three is actually a pattern yeah that's the trend there it is we we need to pay attention to it yeah i mean and those are called smart money launderers that's right yeah yeah yeah criminals like i feel like every time there's somebody who like gets very serious with uh somebody in the art world that person person, it turns out to be just being like they're the best at being in the art world because they were a grifter of some

sort. Like hasn't that happened multiple times? The art world is quite literally a money laundering scheme. Right. Just a global money laundering scheme. Right. And there's something kind of beautiful about that to just like know that there's no substance there. Right. The new Gawker is great, by the way. Thank you very much. What is something that will stick with you, George? What is something you think is overrated?

Oh, I have a really good answer for this. Not to brag. I think that something that is overrated is oral histories. Okay. Yeah. I just like don't like there's something about it where like either do the work and write a book right or just kind of like do a tweet like to do an oral history of the you know of the office episode where jim and pam go to the supermarket like i don't care i don't need to like have quotes from a writer that was like and then and then in the room they they someone said what if they go to the supermarket and we said no they can't do that that's crazy

i don't need that and it's very like loosely edited so it makes sense that you as an editor would be anti this because yeah it's like true what about a less readable just kind of loose grouping of source quotes. Sometimes, if there's an episode of a show you like, actually the best thing you can do is just re-watch that episode. You don't need an oral history of how it came to be. Mmm. Well, where are you going to get the tidbits?

It broke new ground saying it was a grocery store. I mean, when I saw that they were going to the grocery store, I fucking lost my mind. Sometimes an episode is so out of left field. It's not like it's a good ep. You're more like, wait, why did this happen? I'm talking about the dinosaurs series finale.

Do you remember? I mean, it was like this kid's show. And then suddenly it was about all the dinosaurs were getting exterminated by comets. That was a metaphor for global warming. And it was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I did not me at eight years old did not need to see this. Yeah. I'm like, what happened to knock the mama?

Right. That's what we came up for. Is gone. They all die. I know. But I mean, that's what we were there for. That was, we were there for like the henson light of it right now rather than like the yo y'all fucked up narrative right

yeah so that i do understand the need for an oral history but also george love and respect um your opinions as always yeah reading them read like i could again like if we're taking it for a face like literally like let me hear it. Okay, that's one thing. But reading it is like, I feel like I'm high reading Cormac McCarthy or something. Yeah, well, it's just like, it's better in theory than in practice. You click on these things and they're, like, 17,000 words long. And you're like, I don't know.

I mean, give it up. Find a good quote for us and, like, bring it to the front. Like a journalist. Like, pretend you're a journalist. I don't know i mean yeah find the good quote for us and like bring it to the front like a journalist like pretend you're a journalist i don't know pretend you have an editor and this is a journalistic institution i don't know here's this interview i did with that guy yeah yeah listen to it yeah like the the the true story behind the dinosaurs episode maybe maybe is like one really good quote yeah i think we can all agree that's the one we need yeah i mean i feel like couldn't we just call it dj daniel right now because his dad yeah his dad my my uncle actually wrote on dinosaurs and really yeah fuck it just call

him get the oral history right now right now should we do it hey what the fuck was up with that man just like now he works for an environmental non-profit. So he had... I think before that, he was pro-oil industry. And then as that episode came together, he was like, whoa! He throws soup at the Van Gogh painting.

Yeah, he throws... That's what his non-profit does. He likes to be behind the scenes. They feel very strongly about soup-based protests. Yeah. Yeah. It's very specific. Sam, what's something you think is overrated?

Okay. I think good acting is overrated. I don't believe in acting as an art form. I think it's on the director to sort of make it make sense sort of like cast properly and like like i think everyone has a different little special sauce but i'm always like okay like i'm like no when someone is like bad at acting in a movie i'm like that's not their fault they don't know what the hell's going on like it's on the director to tell them what so how it's supposed to look right right yeah that's like right a coach putting the worst player on the bench

into the starting like lineup when you're like you know that's not the best player right it's like yeah but it's gonna get butts in the seats so fuck it like and we know that that's what i feel like is does harry styles kind of fit into that that's how i feel about harry styles like he's someone who just they're like hey man you man, you should act. He's like, I guess. And everyone's like, I think he's set up to fail. But I also just think anyone that's like good at acting, like they just have like a lot of times they have like 10 little tricks.

Like it's like, I can make my lip twitch like this or like I can. Right. Right. Right. I really, it's something I, for some reason I do not believe in.

I'm just always like, yeah, I guess like Sam is not really an actress. Right. I really, it's something I, for some reason I do not believe in. I'm just always like, yeah, I guess like Sam is not really an actress. Gay. I see. He's more of a pop star. Gay. Got it.

Got it. Yeah. And I would say I'm more of an actress. I, I, I do actually appreciate what Sam is saying because I do think we celebrate acting too much, but, but, but i will be the person who's like blown away by a performance and then and then i'm like have you seen cape blanchett

and tar right that was actually the thing that jumped to my mind even though i haven't seen it that seems to be the performance that everybody is like that this if you're going to go to a movie to watch a performance this year that that's the one to do it for and also very well directed so right right right you know it's sam's words not her it's the man right it's the man todd field yeah but yeah i'm going to see tar tonight so hopefully hopefully kate teaches me the power of acting right or just make a scene and be like i honestly don't get it y'all she's waving a stick around for most of the movie it does seem like listen i loved i liked the performance a lot i do think when she's doing the stick stuff she could tone it down a bit oh really it's a lot

it's very exaggerated stick acting wow does that go for all conductors i've had that thought every time every single time i've seen a conductor i've been like you could take it down oh yeah right about 20 matches it was so i remember i played in a youth orchestra like a youth symphony growing up because i'm like super into playing trumpet as a kid and the direct the conductor of that youth symphony was so fucking pretentious like it's like he it's like to your point it's like he has been like watching mixtapes of other conductors of symph like symphonies and be like that's the shit you got to get on like you got to have nasty long hair, be sweating, and, like, just big animated movements.

And he was, like, a nightmare of a person. So I give it up to the low-key conductors. With a lot of conductors, it does feel like, you know, are you doing this dramatic movement for us, the orchestra, or are you doing it for you, the conductor? Like, are you trying to, like, prove your own importance, or are you trying to, like, keep us in time? Yeah. Right. Part of it I get, like like if there's a crescendo right and the and the certain section isn't giving it to you enough you gotta like really gesture like yo this is fortissimo you know y'all playing

mezzo forte type shit but the i don't know sometimes it does seem like they're doing a solo on it like a like how a rock like santana would do a rock solo on a guitar like oh fuck man like in the middle of like okay you're coming for 15 minutes yeah or like st heim not to bring it back to one bass one of sam's least favorite musicians yeah but st heim's uh bass face as that bass face is wild as a baby i also play bass and i was like I was like, she's feeling it up there. Is there a bad performance that you... Something that was noted for being a bad

performance that just didn't bother you that you'd ride for? I mean, it's hard to tell what people actually think of the quality of this performance, but Gaga's performance in House of Gucci is so funny in a way that I think of the quality of this performance but gaga's performance in house of gucci is like so like funny in a way that i just love like it's like you don't need to be like good you need to

be like just giving me something and it's like that is giving me something that is something to chew on i don't know what it is but it's something that entire movie was like a structural critique of the concept of acting 100 yeah you know what good acting is well this is the most entertaining movie you've seen this year and we are doing like just the most ridiculous we are making fun of the idea of acting up here we hope you're good with that and i I was. I even liked Jared Leto's performance. I thought that was hilarious. Maybe his best performance to date. I was like, thank you for this.

I needed this. I stand by my statement that that character should be the voice of Mario in the new Marvel movie. I absolutely agree. And by the way, you know who was not good in that movie?

Adam Driver, who was trying to be a good actor. He needed to put that aside and just be Halloween. No, we came here to be spooky, not accurate. Jeremy Irons doing a completely different accent. I was like, yes,

you are British. Just be British. Who cares? Right. Oh, man. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll hear your underrated and maybe get into some news.

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Something you think is underrated? I do. I mean, we kind of touched on it, so it might be boring, but I'm going to do it anyway. I was going to say an underrated is climate terrorism. I think, you know, we've all been sort of mocking this soup squad. And I think any form of climate terrorism is a slay. And I think we need to be sort of upping the amount of climate terrorism. Yeah, it's going to be messy. It's sort of we're figuring ourselves out we don't really know what to destroy or how to destroy it but maybe we got to make a splash somebody's got to be terrorizing something right it's like they're too comfortable i don't

want to do it but somebody's got to do it not it there are a lot of things i don't want to do like yeah i don't want to pick up the garbage but it we gotta get it together but it ain't gonna be me but y'all please figure it out up the stakes please yeah yeah i'm all in my critique was like why ruin something beautiful that everyone can enjoy instead of like ruining a pipeline but it definitely got our attention more than those are but that's the thing jack you gotta think like a terrorist man those are soft targets right i mean ain't nobody nobody's looking out for you at the van gogh exhibit so it's like fucking it's like being a viking when you pulled up to the continent of europe they're like yo these motherfuckers have no idea bro we're fucked this place up uh i think that's how they're looking at it right now yeah like a fucking

aston martin dealership they're like you're fucked i gotta right now. Yeah. Like a fucking Aston Martin dealership. They're like, you're fucked. I gotta say, I'm always a little skeptical when people are like, well, but it did get us talking, so it worked. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. It's not that simple. 9-11, it got our attention. It definitely started a conversation. Yeah, it definitely did. But I'm like, okay, when people were protesting the Sackler wing of a museum you're like okay the name sackler is on it i can

see the connection like let's go i'm there like i'm holding my sign but there's something about there's too many reference kind of floating around you're like there's soup there's mango there's oil there's a museum i'm like let's streamline right yeah stay focused at least throw the soup at like an at a war hall or you know right right i don't know if that would help the message but it would at least have a more streamlined narrative like yeah like fuck up like a jeff coons piece you know like like a massive massively like i'm just making hand over fist money like probably help like like we were saying with the van Gogh, like, yo, bro, let's leave that man alone. He didn't even know he was successful when he died. Yeah.

Leave him alone. Yeah. There are better targets in the art world, for sure. Climate terrorism needs an editorial director or a creative director. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. director or a creative director a hundred one hundred percent and yeah i mean because right now pardon the pun it's little noodles at the wall you know they're sort of seeing what sticks and um they're just they're they're wasting they have an audience a rabbit audience and they're

sort of squandering it right well i mean i think the other thing too is like the way like they didn't fuck up the van gogh like they threw it at the plastic shield around the Van Gogh. You know, so they didn't even. Yeah. Yeah. They don't have pieces like they didn't fuck that up. No. And not just that.

They called ahead of time to make sure they would not ruin it. Wow. So then I'm like, all right, well, that's not very punk rock. Right. Right. Right. And they took notes on which kind of soup to throw. They're like, yeah.

Are you good with a bisque? Is that. Oh, yeah. And they took notes on which kind of soup to throw. They're like, are you good with a bisque? Oh, maybe something more water-based. That feels a little bit too greasy. Okay, okay, okay. Well, we can just put red food coloring in some water with some chopped up carrots. Okay, so you have food coloring. You know, people throwing red paint at fur,

that's like a perfect narrative. That's what i said when this i get what you're saying yeah yes that makes sense to me but this is yeah although maybe it's more of a dada like it the point is how random it is and maybe we should expect that maybe we're thinking in a modernist rather than post-modernist way right right this is the sort of sort of wave of climate terrorism it's tim and eric climate terrorism right yeah so we need we want to get to like the octavia butler point you know what i mean where we're like really fucking it up in like a laser guided way yeah i think that makes sense for climate terrorism like the climate story it doesn't need randomness or surrealism.

It's pretty straightforward. Well, because I feel like the whole tension is like, we know we're fucking the earth up, but we don't fucking control the resource extraction or pull the levers of our energy mix to burn fossil fuels. So it's like, well, how do we fucking do something? So right, it's in that fossil fuels so it's like well how do we fucking do something so right it's in that point now it's like i don't know man just go fucking fuck up that dealership go climb this bridge throw some soup at this thing like whatever man because like we can't just

fucking buy paper straws and things like that's gonna fucking end it because that's a you know at the end of the day that's not stopping the fucking industry that's responsible for it they were gluing themselves to nba basketball courts last playoffs which was interesting but again i missed that one yeah it happened like multiple times in memphis like in the memphis grizzlies home games i think in minnesota like that it was like at one they they targeted one specific series and just kept gluing themselves to the court over and over again and it never worked but it was always very violent how they were like pulled off the court oh yeah so there's like also i remember that one security guard who was like a fucking nfl linebacker like reading the play, like just saw this person getting ready to get up the court. And the second they stood up,

they were just, yeah. Took them out. Yeah. They need, they need coaching. They need, they need a director.

Yeah. Better director. Better director. Yeah. George. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated? All right.

I know I came in guns a blazing with the oral history thing. This one really stumped me. I was like, the first thought I had was having a printer, but then I was like, I can't go with that. That's the most boring possible thing

anyone could ever say. But I'll say this. I think something that, this is a little obvious, but going to a multiplex to see a movie, people don't realize because people don't go to movies

that much anymore. They are so desperate for our business that their policies are in unhinged. It is, it is like, it is like every like AMC, Regal, all those places are offering passes that are like $20 a month for unlimited movies.

And they also have like a full bar with like ayahuasca in them. Yeah. You can drink at the movies straight up like because i really like going to the movies and but the past few times i've went the people i've gone with have been like wow this is my first time going to the movies in like three years and i'm like people don't know what's going on like this is the this is the opportunity of a lifetime right yeah this is your living room if you play your cards right nobody will be here and you know you can even smoke weed in there they don't even give a fuck yeah but then truly like the fact that

all of them have like people are like i miss movie pass well it exists you just have to commit to one theater but it's there yeah yeah yeah i think people are focusing on the wrong thing when talking about going to see a movie in theaters because they're like like the purists will be like we need to go see a movie in theaters because it's so important to be around like masses of people while you see this film oh hell and it's like no no no masses of people stresses everybody out say like you get like the biggest most reclining seat you could ever imagine a full bar and like you can have sex in there if you want like yeah fine what do you think about the food like you know like the alamo draft houses of the world or places where they bring food like i i like the option but i more so to say i like to eat a lot and

typically when i go to a movie i'm like yo i'm gonna get high before so i eat a lot and i'm i'm not joking by the third act i'm fucking struggling to fucking stay like conscious because i'm like yeah i would say alamo draft has much like oral histories. Uh, good in theory, not great in practice. Yeah. I find that they've also not,

as far as I know, and that this might've happened since I, I last checked, but they have yet to get a single order, right? In the, also the food is not very good. I mean,

the food's not good and they, they've never gotten a single, and they've never gotten a single... Like, they've never gotten everything that you put on. And you write down the order, so it's interesting that they can't... In the dark on paper. Here's what I'll say.

I have actually a billion-dollar business idea, which is that, you know, collabs are all the rage right now. I think if those movie theaters just collaborated with, like, In-N-Out, and then you could get, like, a known entity to, like, go there and get In-N-Out. Stop, stop. I mean, then you could get like a known entity. You could like go there and get in and out. I mean,

that seems kind of like a no brainer to me. Right. That would be huge. That would be amazing. Why have your own kitchen? Just have a little satellite kitchen. Right. Just pop up in and out truck.

Yeah. Pop up even. Yeah. I mean, that'd be an interesting way how like studios would start propping up films. They know we're going to have terrible openings. Like you basically, you just have an in and out collab opening, like in with no in and out they're like guys this super mario film you're gonna fucking love it with in and out yeah uh kansas

pull up i mean truly though i mean not to not to blame the theaters for not having good business but get get a mckinsey consultant in there and they'll be up and running. Yeah. And they'll probably say something like, have you tried more diverse offerings? And they're like, well, hold on, hold on. We look, we know you. Yeah. Come on now.

Yeah. Hamburger's diverse enough. You mean like vegan options? Yeah. Yeah. That's fine. All right. By the way,

I use my printer constantly. Printers are underrated, but we'll skip over it on the basis of it being boring. By the way, I use my printer constantly. Printers are underrated. Thank you very much. We'll skip over it on the basis of it being boring. But having a printer. Oh, hell yeah. I'm sorry. That just inspired me.

I can't agree with that more because it's excited me. I don't have a printer, but the times I wish I had a fucking printer. I'm always like, why the fuck have I not bought a printer yet? Even if you need to print something out once a year i'm telling you that just buy one right yeah no the printer the printer industry they are they are built to fall apart so quickly i've never had a printer like even when i go to use it after six months it's like wait why doesn't it work now it worked before oh my mom has mine drives me crazy my mom has this one from like 18 years ago that just cannot fucking be stopped. It's like it's like the most respected member of our family.

It's like, oh, that shit is still going. All right. Respect to you, brother. Brother printer. Literally brother. Yeah, brother. All right. Let's get into Amazon real quick.

Turns out terrible place to work. Yeah. I don't know like just the statistics support everything that we have always suspected like at every level i've known like one person who worked at amazon like at an executive level and they told me and this was like years ago but they told me that like they cried multiple times like on the job and that like there was at least one person crying on the like in in their office on a regular basis and you had to like respond to emails within three minutes at any time of day or else you were they would be like

excuse me like hello you are off task yeah off task off task It's also I've known many people who have worked in in like Amazon corporate, not like in a in a warehouse, like as coders or as product managers or whatever. And it's like that ethos extends throughout the company, like right from the lowest from the people at the lowest level of the totem pole to the people that are like vps it's just it's like right and and that's i think the people that end up liking it there are the people that thrive in that kind of environment which is a personality type right oh 100 and so like there's this leaked memo that basically just confirms like yeah it's a hellish fucking nightscape but a nightscape hellscape it's a hellish nightmarish hellscape that That's what I was trying to do. But apparently they are like with the amount of like employees that they're, that are leaving the company,

like their attrition rate is costing them about $8 billion per year. And they lose 3% of hourly workers every week. So they said, according to this, like internal research paper that I think, uh, who got it, the verge, uh, it said workers are twice as likely to leave by choice rather than because they were laid off or fired. It also says that the issue is widespread throughout the company, as we're just saying, not just with warehouse workers from entry level roles all the way up to vice presidents. The lowest attrition rate for one of the company's 10 tiers of employees was almost 70%. That's the

lowest with the highest reaching 81.3%. Right. I feel like every, you know, every company, there's a thing in like the business world called the hedgehog principle, where it's like every company needs to have like a single line thesis statement that is what makes like separates them from other companies and like makes them more profitable and there seems to be we are the best at exploiting people without you having to notice that you the customer having to notice that we're the best at treating our workers like shit but in a way that like is behind closed doors so so you just like turn around and the package arrives on your doorstep and you don't have to see that we are like beating the shit out of our our employees essentially and that that really seemed like when we talk about this it's it seems

like we talk about it in relation to other companies where, you know, other companies might have like incidentally like bad culture because of like bad management. like just make making labor extremely cheap and moving the cheap labor and all their practices of like how they treat people like shit behind closed doors so we don't so we don't have to see it yeah it also i feel like it makes like the even slightly conscious consumer look like sort of a bleeding heart liberal in this way that is like like if i like talking to my mom who like orders a lot of amazon and be like that's like they're mean to their employees she's like it's like suddenly i'm like bernie sanders and like i'm like you know like you shouldn't listen to me anymore right and it's like oh it's it's so cruel that it should be so obvious to to us all and it's weird that pointing it out is still like radical in some way it's the new

like sweatshop it's like in the 90s or the 2000s when it it almost became cliche to point out that everything all clothes are made in sweatshops so then you were kind of like okay well i guess that's part of the world now right i mean right to that end like there's like a a new proposal from like the group it's called the Commercial Customs Operation Advisory Committee when it's like executives from like Walmart and shit. And they've been basically talking to like, you know, they give suggestions to the Customs and Border Protection on like how to streamline trade regulations. And right now they're trying to do a thing that would basically make it harder for you to realize if they were like, you know, like bringing in products that were tied to labor abuse overseas. Like that's their new suggestion. Oh, so they've got a finger in that pot too.

Just, yeah, just like kind of like the manifest, like they're like really blogging us down. Like let's just barrel through that. That way people can't really link anything back to anything untoward. back to anything untoward but again because i think it's funny that they are consciously realizing oh some consumers are becoming a little more aware of like what the human cost is to certain goods and so that they're like all in on now being like all right fuck up the manifest no one will know uh in terms of amazon like let's just crank this like fuck the attrition rate just keep it going and we talked about in the past how like even their own analysis is like, we're going to run through people who we can even fucking exploit in certain markets if we don't figure shit out, which is I'm sure a really comforting thought.

I also just wanted to touch on Bezos because Mona Halabi, like in the New York Times, did this like really interesting infographic to help people just get some scale of Jeff Bezos' wealth. And it's really, I think we always talk about, yeah, it's really hard to fathom what $172 billion looks like to an average person. But in it, she's breaking down for like, for 0.7% of his wealth, he could give every Amazon employee $1,000 for less than 1% of his wealth. Another one said that the average full-time Amazon employee made $37,930 in 2020. In order to accumulate as much money as Bezos, $172 billion, an employee would have to start working in the pylocene epoch four and a half million years ago when hominids

had just started standing on two feet. That was the head start. Yeah. They should have led with that one. Oh, yeah. They said based on his wealth gains in 21 and 22, his wealth was increasing $500 per second. So that means in 40 weeks, the time it takes for a human to gestate,

he could reimburse everyone in the United States who got IVF in the past two and a half years. That's just in 40 weeks, he could do that. Or in 95 hours, he could buy a $169 million apartment on the 96th floor of 432 Park Avenue in 95 hours. That's how much money he makes passively. And he deserves every penny. Yeah, right? That's what I was just going to say. He deserves it all.

He's the best among us. He figured it out, I thought this article, I don't know. You can consult me next time, New York Times, because I feel like there were better ways to make some of these points. The place to see an error or whatever, I thought was good, but I don't know but some of them were kind of yeah it was one hard to fathom where it's like fingernail dust is like one 100 millionth of a centimeter yeah it's like sometimes with those things i'm like all right who is this like are we just having fun with numbers here yeah and like the a 69 169 million dollar apartment on the 96th floor of 400 like i have no fucking idea what that yeah i don't know about new york real estate who are you who specifically is this for i'm like la's most expensive house is 70 million according to selling sunset i'm like that's the limits of my terms how many acai bowls is that thank you well your luck you could have acai bowls every day for seven million but yeah i wish they had like done yeah a few more drafts of what the actual numbers they wanted to pull together were i think they're trying to see look no matter how like maybe you make sense of the world through pieces of

toblerone chocolate or maybe yeah that one was good they have a few different ones yeah toblerone chocolate versus like is what everybody else makes, and Jeff Bezos is like five Mount Everest's or something like that. The height of a piece of Toblerone is American median wealth. That was solid. But that and the Pleistocene era were mixed in with a bunch of things where I had to picture fingernail clippings. Or the $169 dollar apartment on the 96th

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program i thought they were going to hold me down and force me to do drugs right some guy in a leather jacket was just like what's up kid because you have that 80s idea of what a fucking drug dealer is. No, this tradition is as American as apple damn pie. I feel like it's just a thing that's like, that is what Halloween is for local news. I wonder if they literally are like come on halloween's just around the corner what are we afraid of this year like we need something scary yeah because every year it's like really yeah what's the new thing rain well i love though too that like the dea is also just like excuse like way to make yourselves look more useless dea like they're being like hey warning folks it's us the drug

warlords they're fucking there's candy colored fentanyl that'll kill your kid i don't know look y'all we're trying to keep the drug war going please i mean that is the biggest question for me is always like who are the people that want to anonymously kill children on halloween right like i i i like what's the profile there yeah we still don't know that's how you advertise how good your shit is man right exactly it's honestly it's viral marketing yeah yeah those 12 trick-or-treaters that got taken out that was my shit there's also you you have to be careful with any news story that's like rainbow based like that rainbow parties yeah rainbow parties was that i i wonder if there's just something in and george maybe you can like tell us this but like something in the edit like the editor

handbook that is like people you know people love numbers in in their titles of stories. And if you can get the word rainbow in there, that's going to get people clicking. I think the combination of something childlike and something dangerous always freaks people out. In this instance, rainbow fentanyl, it's like children are in danger. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Rainbow parties was the kids wearing different colored lipsticks and giving each other blowjobs at a party.

Right, right, right. Exactly. And then, yeah, that Oprah was like, hell yeah, let's do this. Now tell us about this. And we should be worried about this. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't know anybody who's done it personally or know if it's true but oprah oprah is truly the queen of never being held accountable

for for spreading information like that we're like uh can you come get dr oz oprah fucking dr phil like all these doctors yeah she didn't she doesn't check credentials necessarily no no she goes she runs on vibes she, she runs on vibes. She has a gut feeling. And she knows what sells. Yeah, it makes sense that she is the most famous American. The DEA alert actually doesn't even say anything about Halloween. It's just the media.

Of course, you got Fox News and also like local media which is just most local media is just mini fox news like that they're just going with the same sort of bullshit scare well often literally because there is i don't have the information in front of me but i i once at a previous job i once edited this thing about how there are um i think it's called sinclair broadcasting it's called Sinclair Broadcasting. It's this like giant conglomerate that like, you know, literally runs like fake local news outlets that just like that just like shit out Fox, you know, 89 markets. They run. And yeah, like you can see it whenever they do like those like op eds to camera or like all the anchors are like yeah totally in line like synced

up reading the same script and you're like oh shit yeah yeah it's just really dark the headline ahead of halloween drug agents warning parents about rainbow fentanyl uh it it doesn't like there there is no like factual connection to halloween but it is truly before halloween so like they can get away with putting that up there but i right i truly think that you are right sam that like this is this comes from an editorial meeting where they're like all right so what are we gonna like freak people out about and could it possibly be rainbow colored because it's been a while since we've had a rainbow colored freak out there's also something about freaking people out about something that is not real because then people can almost be like phew like our kids didn't get the rainbow fentanyl right like we

made it through another halloween right and like yeah because there are real dangers like i don't know if you guys have seen there's like some statistic about like the number of like kids that get hit by a car on Halloween, like sky, like it like sky rockets on Halloween. And it's like, yeah, talk about a real thing to be afraid of.

Like we could talk about that, but it's like, but that's not juicy and it might happen. So that's not really fun to sort of talk about. It's like, yeah, it's more spooky. It's in the Halloween spirit.

I mean, it's like there might be vampires. Right. Right. Right. And just like how like a vampire isn't going to fucking bite you and turn you. Although I hope it happens every year for me. It never does. It's just like with fentanyl.

Like it's like the whole shit, especially with all the like interacting with fentanyl videos you see where cops are going down. It's like that's also that's also just as real as fucking werewolves who fucks like you're not gonna fucking perish from looking at it and what's interesting about like the candy thing is that like it was just because at a bust the dea did like they were keeping it in like a skittles bag or like a nerds box yeah not like so they're like oh see what they're trying to do they want some kid to open this and then pretend it's skittles it's like no they're like, oh, see what they're trying to do? They want some kid to open this and then pretend it's Skittles. It's like, no, they're smuggling fucking drugs. You don't suddenly be like, hey, man, you got to open every little statue of Maria for Catholics because there's heroin inside.

I just saw Lost. You better keep your eye on that shit. Well, we tell ourselves stories in order to live. well we tell ourselves stories in order to live yeah yeah a veritable rainbow of different colored cars will be running over your children this halloween like that see you can get the rainbow in there and still be scare tactic and actually help people it seems like but right there rainbow fentanyl is also the name of the pride party sam and i are throwing next yeah come on out tickets are 100 and uh they don't someone will die yeah that's on the poster that you guys are putting out yeah yeah i just thinking of like it's kind of like we couldn't quit y2k you know yeah like y2k was

so fucking energizing y2k was fucking everything you know the shit we were buying was fucking merch like where we were like half embracing like a potential disaster but something like i don't know maybe and it's now it's like we got to keep kind of pushing that y2k button in people like just enough that it seems feasible but not enough to cause a full-blown panic it really is hard to recapture the magic of y2k it really combines so many great things i mean digital fear of the digital right futurism right you know there was kind of aesthetic there was community the kind of aesthetic of like a tlc no scrubs right you know there was kind of aesthetic there was community the kind of aesthetic of like a tlc no scrubs video you know right right right but make it scary right apocalypse right for it to hit midnight and sort of be like i wonder if anything bad is gonna happen and you

like in your heart you like kind of know nothing about is gonna happen but at the same time it's like maybe and then when nothing bad happens, the party just gets even more popping. Like what a feeling. Well, like here's the thing. I remember, right? Because I was what? This was 16 going on 16 that that year. I was like at my friend's house because we weren't going to some fucking cool party at the time.

We just weren't cool enough to be at a like a proper Y2K party. But I remember earlier that night when it was nine, we're like, yo, what happened in New York? Right. Yeah. They're like, it's all good. It's all good was nine we're like yo what happened in new york right yeah and they're like it's all good it's all good and we're like phew but in my mind i don't like to your point like george i don't know if i for all the excitement like what would happen if this shit went as like the way we thought it was gonna go and completely fuck up i would have been like oh start falling out of the sky yeah right i wouldn't have been ready even though we were like giddy for it yeah well i so first of all like the reality of y2k is we just hadn't heard of software updates yet like and that's all it was was like we were still learning about the software update we were still learning about the concept of technology right it was a different time so yeah they just told they just focused on one software update and we're like if this doesn't happen we're fucked but is there any way that we like sensed

the you know the thesis of this podcast at least in my mind is that like there is some like collective unconscious you know that has some intuition that's at least worth looking at is there any way that like we sensed some apocalypse was coming around y2k and it just didn't happen until like some reckoning that ended up being september 11th which does that this is me bringing up september 11th twice in a single episode for no reason but that i do wonder if people just had a sense that like america's been fucking up and just like sending our like you know our damage elsewhere and ignoring our damage for for so long that they were just like this gotta like something bad's gonna happen right like something like catastrophic is gonna happen and then we just like made up Y2K to like give ourselves that. And then it didn't happen until like a year later. That's that's a very I love the theory that feels very like prophetic. Like I'm addicted to the idea of all of us having an understanding that something bad is coming. Right. I don't know how true it is but i love it i feel like those people would have to be a little more aware of like what our karmic debt was from a foreign policy perspective yeah

that's true no one was maybe i'm wrong but it was y2k an america-specific thing no i think the free cat was american specific oh interesting okay they did talk it they did talk about i remember in japan like it was kind of like a funny thing like they're like i remember being there like in the in the build-up to it and people would just say like yeah you never know but it was never like like they weren't having like like computer people on like in earnest news segments like they did in the u.s or they're like you know like when the clock hits like we'll see what happens right they weren't they were giving those people air well because there wasn't they weren't all trying to make money off of like survival bean bowls or whatever yeah i do the time period between january 22 january 2000 and

september 2001 is such a like maybe someone's already done this but i'm like someone should write a book about it because it was like oral it was the the optimist and maybe an oral history actually it was like the it was the this brief time when there was optimism about a new millennium yeah and then it just like and then after that any kind of history would write after that would of course have 9-11 as like the definitive first thing essentially that happened yeah right but i'm trying to think, like, what culture was released during that time? Wasn't good. Yeah.

Let's see, I mean, in August. Sorry, I'm going to do a quick look. Movies that were released in 2000? Bring it on. Gladiator? Well. Oh, yeah, bring it on. Scary movie. Didn't Gladiator, like, win all the Academy Awards,

and it's just, like, a real straight-down-the-middle action movie? Yeah, that was, like, yeah. that was like oh american psycho great movie yeah really good movie but that wasn't popular at the time and has since become extremely like it didn't it didn't like crush the box office but it's become like the movie from that time period that i feel like most people i mean the fact that gladiator is like the one best picture or did it one best picture that's not that inspiring to like most people i mean the fact that gladiator is like the one best picture or did it one best picture that's not that inspiring to me so maybe i'm wrong about that time period being fruitful yeah i don't know if it was fruitful but it was like very specific you know yeah i think but yeah with y2k i mean it might have been more that we probably knew

that technology like we couldn't totally wrap our heads around it and now we're in this like social media quagmire we're in now where maybe if i think if anything maybe our intuition was more about like technology is about to oh sure sure like this is about to be beyond our capabilities as a species to deal with yeah like i think that and then because i think that really came to pass and now we're like wow, wow, because what? Just four short years later, we have Mark Zuckerberg click clacking away. I mean, I remember, you know, just as a kid, I remember being like, something's going to happen with Cambridge Analytica. Right. Yeah. You were just feeling my famously.

No one listened to you. The summer before 9-11, like, you know, literally on the front page of, I think, Time magazine when, like, on September 11th was the summer of the shark. And it was about how there were, like, three shark attacks in America that summer. something to be afraid of and because they like just were so closed off to the reality of the world that they had to like make up stories but like now we have rainbow fentanyl now well yeah now we have rainbow fentanyl we have things to be no we have so much to actually be worried about and we're still making up stories to like like rainbow fentanyl to like give us fake things to be worried about because maybe that's just like well it's tradition and also it's just more reassuring or there's actually no there there yeah or it's like y2k like our farewell to like frivolous bullshit fear-mongering right because we were about to enter the era of

like real fucking shit like because unless you were like truly aware and up to date on everything i for me as a teenager i lived in a couple total ignorant bliss of like i don't know dude fucking jono got a new fucking pathfinder like let's fucking drive up to the mall type shit and then you're like wow oh shit right like america is doing stuff around like that was sort of my process after 9-11 our history she's like does anyone want to take a stab at why anything might have happened in the united states and we were like what yeah i you must have gone to a more liberal school than i did because mine mine was like oh yes these evil people they're're coming for you.

They hate our freedom. I gotta say, as someone who at the time was living in America with non-American parents, it was shocking. I mean, the fact that suddenly our pizza

was coming in American flag boxes, I was like, what is going on here? Yeah. Terrifying. Yeah. I was like, I gotta stand for the fucking

national anthem now? I was like, I used to get away with like sitting down and like not doing yeah and then also i remember as kind of like an impressionable kid be like not understanding any of the context and being like well everyone has all these cars have support our troop stickers on them i guess that must be a status symbol and i like made my parents buy one because i saw it at the supermarket. And I was like, I want to be like all the other American families. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Which is such a lull because, you know.

Wait, where did you grow up? Well, I mostly grew up in Greece. My parents are Greek. But then there was a brief period for like seven years when we lived in New Jersey, which is why I don't have an accent or anything. And that happened to overlap with 9-11. Got it. Got it. Got it.

Oh, right. So, yeah, it's yeah. You definitely have to stay in. I was there Got it, got it, got it. Oh, right. So yeah, it's, yeah. You definitely had to fill in. I was there from like 98 to 2005, I think. Got it. Really, the wonderful year is kind of between the Bill Clinton scandal and the second Bush administration.

Right. The highlights. Yeah. Yeah. Well, guys, it's been so fun having you on The Daily Zeitgeist. Like I said, huge fan of your show. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?

Well, one, thanks so much for having us, too. Yeah, so much fun. You can find us both on Instagram and Twitter. And I'm Sam Taggart on Instagram and Sam T. Taggart on Twitter. And George, what are you? And I'm George Severus on both. Sam T Taggart on Twitter and George, what are you? And I'm George Severus on both. Should we, we do have three live shows coming up.

Yeah. I have them written down because we, we, we just, um, it doesn't matter, but we, so we have one in New York for the New York comedy festival at the bell

house on Wednesday, November 9th. And then we have two coming up in LA one for the vulture festival and, um, on November 12th and one more at the Elysian theater on November 9th. And then we have two coming up in LA, one for the Vulture Festival on November 12th, and one more at the Elysian Theater on November 14th. Nice. So that's what we have to promote today. Yeah. Thank you for giving us the space

and the opportunity to do that. Yes, of course. Thank you. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media that you guys have been doing? Oh, yeah. I have a good one for this. Sam, do you have one?

You go first. Okay. So I actually, this is cheating because I've already tweeted it out. And also because I found out about it via another podcast, The Weekly. But I have been introduced to this. I'm not on TikTok intentionally so because I think it would ruin my life. But I've been introduced to this TikTok account called the VIP list, I believe. And it's these two girls in New York that go to kind of iconic New York restaurants and review them.

But in the most, I think they're doing it as a bit and this kind of grading voice where they're like, the steak here was terrible. Then we got dessert and it was also really bad. And that's kind of like, I'm not exaggerating. it was also really bad. And that's kind of like, I'm not exaggerating. So I really want to especially shout out the Balthazar video, which I kind of happened upon because I was, you know,

because of the James Corden thing. It really is. It really is. It brings me so much joy. And I've now watched it truly like 17 times. I really encourage everyone to, to look it up. Yeah.

At one point they go, they were talking about something and they're like, this tart needs a therapist oh no i think it's someone get this tart a therapist wow i guess as a companion piece of that i would say grace coolenschmidt's post about who balthazar where she was standing in front of it saying welcome back james that was so funny i also just imagine i know i mean we know grace and we know where she lives and it's not close to baltazar so i was imagining her like getting on a train getting on a train from brooklyn to go to baltazar to take

the photo for her post and i gotta say it was worth it it was worth it i mean and also did she have poster board or did she have to also run to CBS, pick up poster board and markers, make a sign that says, welcome back, James, then go to Balthazar, then snap a picture.

That is impressive. Yeah. Amazing. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, man, you can

find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray. Check Jack and I out on our basketball podcast. Miles and Jack got mad. And Jack and I out on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties. And also check me out with Sophia Alexandra

on our 90 Day Fiance podcast, 420 Day Fiance. Some tweets that I like. First one from a past guest, who you might be hearing from soon, Paula V. Ganollin, at Paula V. Ganollin tweeted, me looking for advice. No, not you. Which feels about right and then pizzarino sparrow at tila mundo tweeted uh if your bestie doesn't permanently alter the

linguistic center of your brain they are not your bestie uh and that's so true and the weird ways we speak rub off on each other uh i'm sure many of you know just from listening to podcasts how that can ruin your brain that was also one of mine which i think says something about the mind meld that happens also to your the linguistic part of your brain when you host three hours of podcast together on a daily basis and you start liking the same tweets i wonder if we liked it at the exact same time like we just get off this and immediately like do all the same shit we'll we'll text each other when we like a tweet hey did you like it uh colin deersing tweeted taylor swift fandom is q anon for people who were a pleasure to have in class i don't know if that's true

taylor swift fans but the fact that i'm so scared that i'm like preempting it by being like i don't look you know i don't know if that's true, so don't be mad at me. I just thought it was funny. Probably suggest that maybe there's something to that tweet. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter

at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy?

This is from this artist, Coche Mea, who is like a sax player who who's like played in like the Dab Kings, like with Sharon Jones and like the Budos band, like Mark Ronson, the Roots, like the dab kings like with sharon jones and like the budos band like mark ronson the roots like guys like totally has his chops as like a sax player but on his solo stuff he's like melding kind of his own like indigenous heritage with like just other types

of music that he's played and it just like makes for a nice you know house instrumental like play it in your house instrumental music uh so this track is called tukaria, T-U-K-A-R-I-A by Coach Hemea, C-O-C-H-E-M-E-A. And it's just a dope track. I mean, a lot of his work is pretty interesting, so check it all out if you want to. Alright, well, The Daily Zyka is

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