The Daily Zeitgeist - Bezos = Humble Climate Change Savior? QAnon & Zombie JFK Unite? 11.3.21

Episode Date: November 3, 2021

In episode 1022, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Joe Kwaczala to discuss COP26 Check In: Bezos somehow makes this about himself, QAnon is reaching new highs (lows) they are expecting the return ...of JFK now, QAnon’s JFK Jr. Theories Are Super-Old, John Deere Update, Collective Action … Works?? Inglewood HS football team beats rivals 106-0...is it classless? and more!FOOTNOTES: COP26 Check In: Bezos somehow makes this about himself QAnon is reaching new highs (lows) they are expecting the return of JFK now QAnon’s JFK Jr. Theories Are Super-Old John Deere Update, Collective Action … Works?? Inglewood HS football team beats rivals 106-0...is it classless? LISTEN: PinkPantheress - I must apologise Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:40 Call him J.F. Gray Jr. because prepare yourselves as i sit at the right hand of trump uh we'll talk about that wonderful conspiracy theory later on oh but also today just to shout out national housewives day national sandwich day damn that's that seems national housewives and national sandwich day and national stress awareness day they have a this feels like a National Housewives and National Sandwich Day. And National Stress Awareness Day. This feels like a trinity of connected days. Yeah. National Housewives Day. I feel like that's from another time, but I also feel like national days are from this time.
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Starting point is 00:03:53 into a sketch show that was named funniest show at series fest they're all every one of those videos worth checking out please welcome the brilliant and talented joe quizala what's up hello boom boom hey guys happy chauvinism day yes yeah real exciting to be here on a momentous occasion yes right yeah why don't you go yeah honor the housewife and why don't you ask her to make you a sandwich am i right day and then she tells you she's stressed out say you are too and you're aware because it's national stress awareness day did you see that thing that said uh seattle is the most stressed out city in the u.s i did see that i did not pay much attention to it because i don't know how they're how they are uh determining that is that a new way to just say the
Starting point is 00:04:40 like a euphemism for the suicide rate is very high no it's like some weird they have some there's some like new technology something the census department has that has like this thing called the household pulse survey and it's like something that's having like real time data and so people are saying like from apple watches and shit i mean i think it's just something it's like probably like a nielsen thing or like if you enlist enroll in it then like you have to participate in it probably kind of thing but the way they said it is that 54 like over 54 percent of the adults in king pierce and snohomish counties in in like washington have said they felt quote nervous anxious or on edge for at least several days during the past two weeks so that made it the highest percentage of people on edge.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Yeah. I feel like participating in the survey would make me stressed. Right. So I don't know if that's accurate. Yeah. I think the results are determined by the process of collecting the data. Yeah. I think that just tells us that they are the city that is most likely to participate in a survey about how stressed out you are.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Yeah. Well, Joe, what's good? You're coming to us from L.A., but you were raised out in Pittsburgh. Yes, that is correct. By way of Chicago. By way of Chicago. That is, yep, that's the order of operations. Superior food town, Pittsburgh or Chicago?
Starting point is 00:06:03 Ooh, I got to give it to chicago i think yeah interesting yeah what do you think i do what would you if you had to put you know head-to-head food items from your native pittsburgh and your adopted chicago what what's that battle that ultimately wins chicago over you think well the thing is i feel like pittsburgh doesn't have a ton of like an identity when it comes to food other than like we put fries on stuff right which it is it's good i mean that's certainly like those are huge points in pittsburgh's favor right but there's not a ton of culinary innovations happening you know we put fries in a salad we will put fries on a sandwich outside of that i don't know what else is really pittsburgh you know defined food whereas
Starting point is 00:06:46 chicago you know there's there's deep dish there's the italian beef sandwich there's there's just so many more titans i think that chicago can claim ownership to yeah the paris of appalachia is pittsburgh that's what i've always referred to it as i lived in wheeleling for five years, so I was close by. Wheeling, West Virginia? Is that what you said? Yeah. Yeah. So that was the big city, Pittsburgh for me. Right. I don't think people realize that West Virginia cuts up and just kind of weasels its way in between Ohio and Pennsylvania. Yeah. Yeah. It definitely does. I feel like Pittsburgh is like a melting pot of Appalachia, the Midwest, and East Coast. My wife, who grew up in Pittsburgh, claims that it's a East Coast city, which it is not, I feel like. Well, I mean, I know what she means because I feel like Pittsburgh is the last stop before you are squarely in the Midwest.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Right. But the drive from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh crosses over a lot of territory that is decidedly not East Coast. Absolutely. Yeah, people don't know that either. It's like a good five, six hours if you were going as the crow flies directly from Philly to Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Pennsylvania is a wide state. Yeah, it is a wide state. And it's Philly and Pittsburgh and Alabama in between, as I've heard it described. A little Amish Alabama. Yeah, Amish Alabama. Amish Bama. All right, Joe, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we are going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about the COP26 check-in. We're going to see Jeff Bezos is somehow making climate change about himself. I don't know. I mean, he has a unique
Starting point is 00:08:33 view on things because he's been to space, as he probably tells everybody within two sentences of starting a conversation with him. It's like worse than me when I went to Italy, like Jeff Bezos. I went to space, so I don't know if you've been up there. When we were in space. Oh, man, the food in space. I mean, this is good too, but really, everything's organic.
Starting point is 00:08:55 It fucking sucks, right? QAnon is just reaching new levels of, I don't know. Desperation, imagination. Desperation, creativity. Although the story writing just fucking is really bad. It's bad writing. So we're going to dig into some of their JFK theories,
Starting point is 00:09:15 JFK Jr. theories, all of that. We're going to do a quick John Deere update. See how collective action is working out there. We're going to ask the question whether a high school football team beating another high school football team 106-0 is classless. And then we'll talk about the Tomahawk Chop. It is Sports Day on the Daily Zeitgeist. Not really, but all that, plenty more. But first, Joe, we do like to ask our
Starting point is 00:09:43 guests, what is something from your search history? Good lunch spot, Cleveland. And that is because I was just in Cleveland because I went to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony. Oh, you did? Yes, I did. Jay-Z and Tina Turner and all that? Oh, yeah. It was a huge class with a lot of, like the people who were being inducted, it was like Foo Fighters, Jay-Z, Tina Turner, Carole King, Todd Rundgren, the Go-Go's and then the people in attendance it was like Taylor Swift, Paul McCartney, Eminem, J-Lo it was it was crazy and the next day I got lunch. So what you did you are you a fan of one of the inductees or what what brought you out there? Here's my weird little fact about me.
Starting point is 00:10:27 I'm a fan of the institution of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Wow. I might be the foremost rock hall expert. And I have a podcast about it called Who Cares About the Rock Hall, where I just felt like nobody knows anything about the rock hall, even though it is weirdly ubiquitous it is so peripheral so that's kind of the premise of my show is i'm like hey let me tell you right the history of this place and how it operates and what's likely to happen shit i i truly need to like i've i've always just treated like yeah it's that thing that they opened up a couple decades ago and we just acknowledge that that's the rock hall of fame and that's cool it seems like a lot of cool stuff happens there and that's the extent of my knowledge i have a
Starting point is 00:11:08 question that occurred to me as i was like reading a headline about the latest inductee class why why cleveland like why did it land in cleveland because i think of cleveland like cleveland i i love the people from cleveland cleveland and p Cleveland and Pittsburgh are both cities that I say I've never met a bad person from either of those cities. But good lunch spot Cleveland might as well be that city's nickname. Like, I don't I don't think of it as being particularly like the home of rock. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of answers to that question. I think one of the main ones was that Cleveland needed it. Like for real, the city itself made like a play, like a major play because the Rock Hall was a thing that existed before the museum.
Starting point is 00:11:57 And they were looking for a place to have this museum. a place to have this museum and there were a lot of different contenders because there's a lot of cities out there that have deep roots to like the beginnings of rock and roll like memphis or chicago but cleveland one of their main things is there was a radio dj named alan freed who was one of the first people to broadcast what would be known as rock and roll and it exposed a lot of people to that type of music and he was a really formative figure in the development of the genre. And then also Cleveland was like, they really, really wanted it so bad.
Starting point is 00:12:32 And, you know, I think it is, it is working out for them. I think people associate, you know, people like Cleveland, what's there?
Starting point is 00:12:37 The rock and roll hall of fame. Yeah. It's like, okay, that's better than going, uh, crime. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Right. Yeah. They, they had the lake catching on fire that one time sure yeah yeah most most of cleveland's identity had been failure right they were called the mistake on the lake so you know they needed a win yeah the rock hall i think gave it to them i think that's kind of a brilliant decision by the rock hall to just be like, yeah, we'll be this city's thing. Like other than LeBron James, they probably were a little bit pissed when LeBron became a thing that suddenly Cleveland had another culture defining thing coming through there. are some like snubs or like people you think need to be in there that haven't made it or like
Starting point is 00:13:26 decisions that rock hall experts aren't aren't fond of right so shaka khan is a big one she's not really i know isn't that crazy wow it's been hard i think also because the hall has waffled back and forth on whether they do shaka solo or they do rufus and shaka khan which was the band that she kind of started out with maybe has the better discography but shaka is or they do rufus and shaka khan which was the band that she kind of started out with maybe has the better discography but shaka is the bigger name solo and especially as like we got whitney houston got in last year so like we the chronology has kind of passed shaka and it's going to keep going like mariah is going to be soon before you know it it's going to be beyonce and if you are missing that piece of shaka it's not going to make a lot
Starting point is 00:14:06 of sense i mean look if fucking irving azoff is in there before shaka khan we got problems yeah big fucking problems but they are starting they are starting to figure out how to kind of backdoor some of these inductees who have not been able to get in via the voting body you know the these ballots go out to like a thousand people who have pretty mainstream and often white and male tastes and they like this year they put in they finally put an lo cool j through the back door got it and just you know it had gotten to a point where you know tupac and Big E had gotten in before him. And even Jay-Z getting in before him seemed crazy. So they were finally like, okay, we're just going to make a category, put him in that, and just hopefully no one will notice.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Don't call it a comeback. He had the performance of the night. He was unreal. It was crazy. Was he? That's awesome. Yeah. He did not have to go that hard.
Starting point is 00:15:06 And it was just like a full-on assault from the second one and that's when eminem and j-lo came out like they were unannounced so it was like a crazy surprise and he was just yeah he was he was leaving it all out there amazing that's awesome and wait where'd you end up on the lunch though place called boaz which was like a mediterranean chipotle oh oh yeah all right okay which we tried to go to a place called the like market square or something which i had been to before which is you know like a grand central market kind of thing oh yeah that's the one that's always on the food channel yeah it was great but it was a sandwich it was a sunday so like everything was closed so we just like went across the street this place but i would yeah i was looking forward to that nice well shout out to cleveland i love that town i
Starting point is 00:15:50 love the people from cleveland so well in ohio too i mean again like i always talk about dayton ohio is the birthplace of funk music so yeah there's a lot of strong strong musical connections to the state in general yeah yeah what is something you think is overrated, Joe? Fireworks. Okay. They are ubiquitous. They are the staple of some holidays. And we have not had any advancements in what we see.
Starting point is 00:16:18 I feel like my whole life, fireworks have looked exactly the same. Every once in a while, you'll get the shape of a fish, and you're like, okay, why? You got to squeeze. Yeah, and you're like, I think that was a fish. I just think they're primitive, and also, especially living in Los Angeles, and I think people in big cities might relate to this.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Sometimes you'll just be sitting around, and there's a gigantic explosion, and it's very frightening, and then you have to remember oh yeah people just will shoot off fireworks residential grade explosives yeah yeah yeah and also it's terrorism to pets right and i can't get on i can't get on you know what i'll make the bold statement i'm not getting on board with any terrorism of any kind but wow right yeah that's i know i i went there but yeah i just think across the board fireworks just i mean can we not just like do a laser light show in the sky is that not something we can figure out because it just seems like it would solve a
Starting point is 00:17:20 lot of problems be more interesting yeah or like you know like in japan there's a huge culture of firework shows but they do them in like these huge areas that like is in the middle of the city so i mean it's tokyo is pretty dense but you'll do it over like the oklahoma bay or something and so everyone can see from like many angles and they're like we're setting off like 70 000 individual fireworks and come to get your mind blown versus like i think in america everything's like cowboy style so it's like hey man check out this shit i rigged i might blow up the fucking neighborhood who knows but it's gonna be sick and loud for 45 minutes and so i feel like maybe just focus them because i like
Starting point is 00:18:02 i like seeing little bang bangs go off but in the the way you're saying, like when it's a, you know, Memorial Day or Fourth of July and then your neighborhood just sounds like a bunch of random explosions. It's it's tough. I am going to go the opposite direction and say I like an ambient like a holiday with like your ambient fireworks for a night. And they're just like kind of shooting off once in a while but like putting all the pressure on it that you're gonna see a firework show like i just feel like that is competing with too much in our day and age of you know it's just the same shit over and over again with just different colors it's i feel like doing a show as opposed to like the my opinion on fireworks i started liking them more once i was able to like set a few off when i lived in missouri and like when you drove to the airport there were just these massive like firework barns that you could like
Starting point is 00:18:59 go and get actual like real deal fireworks like when they're just like out and around and like something you could like set a couple off they're kind of fun but if it's just a thing like as it was when i was growing up of just like you go you sit on a blanket and watch a handful of them be set off for 15 minutes while the pops play like it it's not as i'm not as into no you got i'm telling you you have to see like where my mom's from in japan nigata there's a thing and nagaoka which is like the biggest fireworks show in like one of them in japan there's a finale where it's like the whole fucking like two kilometer wide display goes up and you'll i'm guarantee you've never seen some shit like that that's so that's
Starting point is 00:19:45 what i mean like like really take the time if you're gonna go there like blow our heads off right right yeah because you could like it feels like growing up it'd be like we're gonna go see the fireworks and we'd like drive 20 minutes and like it'd take a long time to park and we'd walk across a bridge and then we'd sit down and it was the exact same thing I've seen every single time. It was just never worth the effort. Yeah, totally. My best experiences with fireworks are when I forgot it was the 4th of July and was
Starting point is 00:20:13 out for a run and then fireworks were shooting off around the town and it was like, oh, that's really cool. It's ambient and a found experience as opposed to one that you're like sitting down for and like getting everybody. Wow me.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Wow me. What is something you think is underrated, Joe? Even though it is beloved, I still think sleep is underrated. I think our culture doesn't value it the way we should. I think there's this hustle mentality of like you get a profile of
Starting point is 00:20:46 someone who's successful and they're like, I sleep three hours a night. Oh, you're like applauding. Yeah. Yeah, right. And I also do feel like just generally, we are like, if someone is sleeping in, they are worthy of ridicule. They are a person, I mean, I am a firm believer that if the human body needs sleep, it should get the sleep. You should listen to your body
Starting point is 00:21:09 and get the sleep you need. I think the idea that someone's sleeping in is... Hey, Ariana Huffington? Wow. With that fire. I think, though, like, sleeping in,
Starting point is 00:21:21 the idea that you're, like, lazy and a piece of shit because you're sleeping in, that, I in, I'm very disappointed in that general opinion I feel like everybody holds. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So what? I was doing Molly all night and I have to sleep or I have to miss my little cousin's kickball game. Right. I need to sleep.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Yeah. And I don't have to be a piece of shit for that. My kids can miss the first half of the school day, in my opinion. yeah and i don't have my kids can miss the first half of the school day in my opinion i think i mean the degree to which we expect growing children to wake up early is criminal oh yeah absolutely i because i used to man in the heights of puberty i was like falling asleep fucking anywhere everywhere and i needed because i had you know like that's when your body's growing and i used to i used to do like 12 hour sleep jams like it was nothing sleep jams yeah like i couldn't believe it yeah you're like yo i've done it i've done it yeah i went from 1 a.m
Starting point is 00:22:17 to 1 p.m you know and they've done studies on kids mental mental health when they push the start of school back an hour or two, and it's markedly improved. But for some reason, it's just not widely adopted. How early does your school start? Mine's like 7.40. My high school started at 7.45. 7.30. Yeah. What the fuck is that?
Starting point is 00:22:41 My kindergartner has to be at school by 7.45. Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, he that? My kindergartner has to be at school by 745. Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, he hits the ground just like that and was like running around and has so much energy. But like, you know, that's the same time he's supposed to be going to school, like in four years when he's just like wants to do nothing but sleep, you know? Yeah, it happens. I don't know. Maybe I was depressed when I was nine.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Maybe that has something to do with that. remember growing up it was flipped it was like if you were a in kindergarten you would go to school later in elementary school you were maybe a little bit earlier and then middle school was a little bit earlier than height the high school kids the ones who need the most sleep are the ones who are getting up you know yeah getting there at 7 30 they gotta learn it's they gotta play football is what it is. You'll sleep when you're dead. They need hours of football when the sun is out. I think that's what's driving a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Yeah, that's true. All right, never mind. I'm with the early start times. I got to say, it's most important for the mental development of children that they get to football while the lights are still on. But even then i remember my my friends i didn't play high school football because a i wasn't a great athlete but also like going from eighth grade i played flag football all my friends were doing tackle football
Starting point is 00:23:55 and then when it was like yeah man you gotta essentially have no summer i was like nah bro i'll go to japan like i can't i don't give a fuck that much like i'll be the one who's not playing football but i remember they would even have like morning lifting sessions before fucking 7 45 and then they'd have practice i'm like this is just yeah too much i feel like it was also like drop off times and parents schedules but then how does it make sense for the kids to like be out of school at 2 30 like that's just yeah yeah school ends so fucking early nobody's getting out of work that early that's when i learned to smoke cigarettes and get in fights and shit or run away from fights actually but yeah hey whatever okay let's change history jack you knocked that
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Starting point is 00:29:30 It was like, yeah, man, we're pledging money to fight climate change, but you're going to have to go into debt to get this money, even though it's for the collective good of the earth. I'm still not sure how that works. But the world's second wealthiest man pathetic jeff bezos he he spoke about the dire situation the planet is in and how serious he is about it and my first question was like why the fuck does he need to have an opinion on this like why is he there i mean i get it as someone who's like hoarded all the wealth maybe he should be shamed to do something but like as if we
Starting point is 00:30:05 need to hear his take on this i'm a little bit like whatever but i guess the way he looks at it is he's like well i did go to space so i've looked at earth from a place not many other people have and as he described it he said uh you know the earth he said he went up there and he said he was quote amazed right that the earth quote provides all he went up there and he said he was, quote, amazed, right, that the earth, quote, provides all the food we eat, the water we drink and the oxygen we breathe. It gives us life. And then he told the audience that while it was beautiful, it is fragile as well. Holy shit. Really, sir. Go on. He says, quote, I was reminded of this in July when I went into space. Come on. anybody remember that and looking back at the earth the brand name in there
Starting point is 00:30:49 he said looking back at the earth from up air the atmosphere seems so thin the world is so finite and so fragile and people are like wait i thought he made his money with amazon i didn't realize it was through just being a fucking poet that was that beautiful money yeah dude got that poet cash dude i was reminding this in july when i was in space on blue orange like okay way to plug your stupid luxury space brand it was on blue origin i. I thought it was some other craft. I'm really listening now. It was Blue Origin. But by U.S. logic, he is the best of us,
Starting point is 00:31:34 or one of the best of us, the second best of us. So we need to listen to what he has to say. Well, Elon ain't American, man. Yeah, I mean. So that's where I give Bezos the edge. He's American. It was so I give him, that's where I get Bezos the edge. He's American. It was so nice of him to go into space so that he could tell us that the earth is fragile.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Yeah. I really appreciate that. Oh, that's why you're denying like wage, like sustainable wages from place. So you can save enough money to go look at the earth and go, oh man, the atmosphere is thin,
Starting point is 00:32:01 huh? I'm worried. That's kind of embarrassing. It was cool though. When he asked them all to give themselves a hand because they really paid for this. I feel like that was probably made it all worth it for them, the workers of Amazon who paid for all of this. With their piss? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:19 With your inability to use the restroom. All those minutes of discomfort added up to power. You powered my rocket to space with your held back piss. So just thank you. Just imagine that piss in space floating around fancy free. Infinitely.
Starting point is 00:32:37 And in that way, y'all are infinite as well. And that's my gift to you. He should have taken somebody's piss up there as a as a token of appreciation i'm taking the bottle and releasing it in the ceremonial like that scene in apollo 13 yeah jettison the p out the side of it they're like there it goes the cons what is it the constellation urina urina whatever so the other thing that a lot of people are pointing about just like the overall lack of like truly transformational policies uh from these world
Starting point is 00:33:11 leaders is just like the tone deafness and hypocrisy of all of these people being like man co2 emissions are fucking awful man we gotta do something man because our runaway culture of growth is creating terrible outcomes for nature. But at the meantime, I was pointing out, it's like most people are flying in on P jets. And then from there, traveling distances like these state motorcades, because they're like heads of state that can't just like pull up on a fucking bird scooter. So they're like, there's a lot of fucking CO2 output going on here. And just last week before all this, Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates were chilling on a $2.7 million a week super yacht for old Billy Boy's birthday. And when it was time for Bezos to hit Glasgow, he pissed off on a fucking private helicopter from the yacht. Flew 120 miles to like a private airstrip to then get on his
Starting point is 00:34:05 private jet to go to the summit so just a lot of empty nonsense when you look like there wasn't even like some performative restraint being exercised you know you'd think like they would be like and this time when we go like the Biden administration will be in an all
Starting point is 00:34:21 electric motorcade fleet blah blah just because that sounds like the dumb shit that they would do to like be like wink see we we get it but they're not even doing that shit so it's like i feel like it's a waste of time honestly like to even like keep looking at this and expect the solutions to come from that rather than like truly being like how do we upend the entire system here because Because these people, left to their own devices, will just let this shit go on and be like, we're condemning ourselves to doom like this. Or rather, I'm condemning 99% of the Earth to doom.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Right. Yeah. Well, the portion that can't make it onto my dick-shaped space arc that I'm going to be building. All right, let's talk about QAnon, though, because, you know, finally, it's not all about the heroes. Sometimes we have to acknowledge the truth tellers. Superheroes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:35:12 So there's some next level shit happening here in case you couldn't tell, in case you haven't been reading between the lines. So according to Whiplash347, which is an account with almost 250,000 followers, Trump will be reinstated as the 18th president of the United States because everything since 1871, the date of the sovereign citizen movement, the date that the sovereign citizen movement claims the U.S. became a corporation, everything since then is illegal. claims the U.S. became a corporation. Everything since then is illegal. Trump will then step down.
Starting point is 00:35:54 So they've got a whole story coming. There's a whole run of show for this. Yes. And John F. Kennedy Jr., who died in a plane crash in 1999, will become president like he would have if it wasn't for Hillary plotting to kill him. Joining JFK Jr. as vice president will be disgraced. Former National Secretary of Advisor Michael Flynn got to give him his flowers. At this point, Trump will ascend to become one of the seven new kings. Oh, most likely the king of kings. That's funny that it's like probably I got a lot of stuff to say, but this one, it's like I think so. But do not quote me because I don't know for sure.
Starting point is 00:36:26 The transmission got a little fuzzy at this part, but I'm pretty sure they're saying he's going to be king of kings. They've long claimed that the Kennedy bloodline is directly linked to Christ. And he told his followers that on Tuesday. Now, so I had heard JFK Jr. was coming back. I had accepted that. I had heard JFK Jr. was coming back. I had accepted that.
Starting point is 00:36:52 But what I didn't realize is that JFK Sr. and Jackie and JFK Jr. will be reintroduced to the world. That's beautiful. The JFK Sr. will travel around for seven days, then will pass, which seems like a lot of, you know, I would just let him let him sleep to our earlier point. Exactly. But before JFK's sleep, but before he dies, however, JFK senior will transfer power to Donald Trump and JFK Jr. will be Trump's vice president. So even though Trump is already the king of kings, one of seven kings that rule over the world. But I'm assuming the head king, he also still needs to be made president by JFK senior, who I think at some point in this story had become president and able to transfer it. That's my question is if after 1871, there were no legitimate presidents. That obviously includes JFK.
Starting point is 00:37:45 So just this. Hey, hey, hey, hey, whoa, whoa. This guy's Antifa. Get him out of here. Yeah. What is this shit, man? Yo, be pointed. I'm just asking questions.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I'm just asking questions. I know, but you're asking the ones that bring to light the just utter nonsense of this theory. Asking the wrong questions, man. Ask one that reinforces the narrative, Joe. Right, right, right. So here's something, Joe, that you probably weren't thinking of when youking the wrong question. Ask one that reinforces the narrative, Joe. Right, right, right. So here's something, Joe, that you probably weren't thinking of when you asked your ridiculous question. Did you realize
Starting point is 00:38:09 that JFK's return will coincide with the reversion to the Julian calendar, which means the date will change immediately back to October 20th? Yes! Thank you! I'm a fool. I'm such a fool. I didn't consider the Julian calendar. And that's why you won't be saved, Joe, unfortunately. You didn't consider the Julian calendar. That's why you won't be saved, Joe, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:38:26 You didn't consider the Julian calendar. Listen, I hate to continue to bring up questions, but this JFK Sr. is his head... What's his head looking like? It was a crisis actor in the old Dealey Square. That's what happened.
Starting point is 00:38:42 It was early Stan Winston, the famous VFX artist, created an exploding pneumatic head for JFK, the prop guy to wear. Okay. And then he was just chilling somewhere, I think,
Starting point is 00:38:58 in Cape Canaveral or something. Okay. So his brains are fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was all fake. He's a 104 year old person in perfect health yeah top of his game playing golf right exactly you think you think the moon landing was the only thing that they used hollywood to fake come on man now who's wow so uh you know that a lot of q anon followers are gathering in Dallas to celebrate and await the return of JFK Jr. Because according to this theory, you know, he faked his own death and then he is choosing to reemerge to enter the political arena on the street where his father was tragically murdered.
Starting point is 00:39:40 So you do it or wasn't murdered, but was, was you know it seemed like he bought into it you know when he was a baby and watching that you know he seemed to believe his dad was dead but who knows is that right or are you are you but a fool right exactly by the by the the theater yeah i mean this ballet so the first time we started seeing this was at don Trump's July 4th rally in 2019 when America became America again. I think we all remember that. Oh, sure. Who could forget? And people were wearing JFK Jr. masks to welcome his return there. Unfortunately for them, that didn't come to pass. But clearly we were misreading the prophecy at that point. And now we've got it right. This all goes back to a post from Q implying that Hillary Clinton had JFK Jr. killed so she could win her New York State Senate seat.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Only way to do it. Only way to do it. As evidenced, Q provided a CIA memo about guided missiles from 1956, which proves that's how his plan was taken down. They also found a photo that Trump was in with JFK Jr. It's called a smoking gun. Thank you. Except the ones with Epstein aren't. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:58 No, no, no. That's a doctor. Joey should ask that question. What about the one with Epstein? I'm pro-Epstein. I will not be asking any questions about old jeffy he's a good friend uh and as we know that this uses the logic the transferable principle of friendship and allyship that told us that richard nixon was close allies with robocop if you've ever seen a picture of them together
Starting point is 00:41:22 but that is a real picture people people need to go look at it if you haven't but for some reason robocop is in a picture with nixon but that is the one part of the story that's actually true even though it sounds the strangest and nixon looks so hyped like he looks excited to be next to robocop like hell yeah man i'm gonna love your movie but yes sir so jfk jr faked his death in order to help install trump his best friend because they were in that picture together in the white house and destroy the uh clinton illuminati vampire cabal and some even believe that jfk jr is q which i think at least part of this is that they want a handsome person who is in the Q movement. And so they've just like appropriated JFK Jr.
Starting point is 00:42:13 And that's not just me talking, because there's a guy with a big beard at a bunch of Trump rallies that they began speculating was JFK Jr. was JFK Jr. And if you see a picture of this guy, he's not really, he's not sponge worthy as Elaine would put it from Seinfeld. This guy looks like, I don't even know. It's a Hugh Jackman cosplaying as Gallagher or something.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Yeah. With, with some, with a healthy heaping of prosthetics going on his face. Well, if I can, if I can throw a little, you know fuel under the fire in terms of jfk jr being q have we ever considered second president of the
Starting point is 00:42:53 united states john adams his son was also president also named john adams but what's his middle name quincy q what does that start with q yeah there you go and we have another president named john whose son could have been president but instead took the path and to acknowledge you know the ogs is now q right i mean kind of seems no do we even have to continue this podcast like fucking nailed it and i mean and then you have another president george whose son oh it was w fuck never never mind but we'll work on that later we i'm gonna just keep messing with the math on that one well that's what they do that's why the the calendar switch is also important like they they do that kind of shit too to be like oh those dates
Starting point is 00:43:44 are off because we're on this other calendar. Right. It's like, but it's not like people who have preached like apocalyptic shit. I've been like, Oh, the date was wrong is because we've been operating the wrong calendar. My bad.
Starting point is 00:43:55 It's actually this date now, now that we're looking at this calendar, but like even like numerology that is bullshit, but like there, there is compelling numerology you can do because numbers are you know eminently like well they're also very easy to manipulate so you could do one where it's like ah and the reason they're they said they were coming back on this date was because if you switch the julian calendar that coincidentally is like this date but it's like they just arbitrarily are choosing
Starting point is 00:44:27 that it's not like anything is like matching up they're just like doing a thing and being like ah see so that's why he's coming back next weekend can you imagine like the excitement of like these q people like who are doing their own sleuthing and they've somehow they think they've they're starting to see the matrix we're like because that's 1229 in dealey plaza now i know jf he was shot he was killed on november 22nd this is november 6th with the julian calendar shifting oh my god robert get in here bro well like to be serious for a second though like joe just came up with a far more compelling thing than anything i've read in like all of the q files just like arbitrarily off the top of his head as we're as a joke like and uh our writer jam was pointing out that like as jfk jr conspiracy theories go
Starting point is 00:45:19 like there are fun ones like their his plane like went down close to a large Hadron like laboratory. Yeah. Like type thing. And so people thought that maybe he like went into a black hole. That was like a fun thing that was happening. I like that a lot. Yeah. But we're instead like we've just even the writing of our conspiracy theories has gotten worse.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Right. Because that JFK Jr. guy, he's like a realtor. Is that what's going on? Yeah. I think that's right. Yeah. And longtime Trump supporter. Underwhelming.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Yeah. Very underwhelming. Doesn't look anything like him once you shave his beard. Well, because I think the difference is there are conspiracy theories that seem more interesting because someone just had this other thing. It's like, no, man, there's like this Hadron Collider thing that opens up black holes. And now with like conservatives, conspiracy theories are just like these sad fables to excuse their lack of anything happening. Right. So like the motivation for the theories is like very odd.
Starting point is 00:46:20 very odd. It's just more like, yeah, man, uh, I couldn't get it up with my wife last night because of, uh, the, the cabals in Hollywood have actually system fed me a diet of media that has
Starting point is 00:46:31 been demasculated me. And you're like, what the fuck? I mean, it resonates with me, you know? Yeah, I'm hearing it.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Oh, wow. My follower counts going up. A lot of American flag emojis. I do want to play though. There were some people at Dealey. So Dealey Plaza, the thing happened. my follower count's going up a lot of american flag emojis i do want to play though there were some people at dealy so dealy plaza the thing happened the time has already come and gone uh for the return about all this this sounds like it would be newsworthy has anyone checked the
Starting point is 00:46:55 front page of the new york times i guess i haven't because the new york times wouldn't mention it but surely uh drudge would let's see what drudge has no nothing what the fuck yeah not a good look well so right at 12 29 was supposed to come he didn't so people just started apparently reciting the pledge of allegiance good move still didn't summon zombie jfk or jfk jr this person uh steve monticelli who's just like i guess on the ground there i guess he just the video, said members of the crowd don't seem happy with the local news crew. And I'm just going to play this video. I don't know what the audio is here, but I can only imagine what kind of energy this clip has. I will tell nothing but the truth to help them die.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Or should I say help them see? Let's go fake news. Let's go fake news. Let's go fake news. Let's go fake news. Let's go fake news. Let's go fake news. Yeah, it's a lot of guys with their arms crossed. Yeah, well, they aren't getting the clapping. The clapping was what gets that meter of that type of...
Starting point is 00:48:01 Let's go fake. Yeah, let's... They're completely... Yeah, they're fucking it let's go fake news clap clap clap up clap that's how you get the crowd going you don't even understand it i'm sorry man you cadence you are a great stand-up but i really think you have found your calling here on this episode today as like the leader of the q movement that i could really focus this fucking brilliant. Like they need your
Starting point is 00:48:26 clap rhythm. Yeah. I'm going to be a Q consultant. I'm going to charge a lot of money. Yeah. That's actually a pretty good grift. We'll talk about it offline. All right. Let's take another quick break and we'll be right back. Let's take another quick break and we'll be right back. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest.
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Starting point is 00:52:45 app apple podcasts or wherever you stream podcasts and we're back and just a quick update on john deere collective action the strike that is happening so after union members rejected an earlier proposal from the head honchos at John Deere, nine to one, so 90% voted not to accept it. And that's what sent them on strike. The company has now come back with an offer that doubled the wage increase from 5% to 10%, which follows years of no raises. So like much earned and deserved and still probably not enough, but moving in the right direction and boosted retirement pay and benefits. This is according to the Des Moines Register, so I don't know if those are significant. Could
Starting point is 00:53:38 easily be an overly positive spin being put on it by the company to make it seem like the union's being unreasonable if they reject it but regardless a doubling of the raise for everyone is significant i don't know if it's enough but it just goes to show you that unions don't help at all and only want to make themselves richer right amazon so yeah apparently apparently there's something to this whole collective action thing yeah i mean it seems from what i've seen it doesn't sound like people are as upset like as maybe like the iotsy uh things were like we're saying like this is not like we can go for a lot more right but i don't know i'm curious to hear from uh any people with a stake in that. If you're a UAW member, let us know.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Is it bunk? The results on the IATSE thing that where they backed down from the strike, the union members didn't feel like they got everything they wanted. No. No. They were like, if we're able to mobilize this much and truly put like producers, the studios on a back foot, we should really be asking
Starting point is 00:54:46 for like the things we really need and not just sort of take like something in the form of they're acknowledging what we're asking for. So I have to look into that to see if they've ratified it yet, but I don't know if they have. Yeah, I think no one was expecting
Starting point is 00:55:00 the vote for authorization, strike authorization to be so overwhelmed almost unanimous that it was like 90 like six percent or something and then because i think they had written the terms of the negotiation before that and then seeing how much power that they had in the unity of the union that they could they could have been asking for more. So I think people were disappointed. Got it. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Well, let's talk about another lopsided score. Uh, an Englewood high school football team beat their rival 106 to nothing. You know, if it's just a regular game, I, I feel like that's overboard. If it's your rival,
Starting point is 00:55:42 like, I don't know. Well, here's the thing. It's locally. There's been a lot of your rival like i don't know well here's the thing it's locally there's been a lot of talk because like you know it was a local high school story a lot of criticism for inglewood high school for you know like they're they're they have a commit like ucla commit justin martin he threw 13 touchdown passes
Starting point is 00:56:00 and then that's at halftime they were winning 86 to nothing and then they went for two and they were up over 100 points so they were you know they were putting them they were putting a bashing in there now i understand like in general people are like sort of the idea that that's a ridiculous score to run up for like a things with student athletes. But it's like, it's wild. It's to the point where there's like all of these people like condemning it wholly be like,
Starting point is 00:56:30 this is absolutely a business. This is terrible. This is nonsense. CIF, the California interscholastic or what is it? Inner? Yeah. Interscholastic Federation.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Anyway, the governing body for high school sports, uh, CIF, they're calling for like an investigation. Um, and I'm like, what the fuck? Exactly away and be like yeah they really fucked them up i don't know like hey how's this team so good like yeah what's the that so i'm just like curious just in general what the i what the outrage is about like who we're protecting because personally i fucking
Starting point is 00:57:02 love a blowout i love watching a blowout. Can the investigation also be how bad the other team is? Right. How did they get so good, but also... But also, man, these guys shit the bed. I've coached youth sports before, and I get it. Just straight-up athletic homicide
Starting point is 00:57:19 can be a shitty experience for young kids, especially if you're trying to cultivate an interest or love of a sport or competition and to just get, you know, demoralized at a young age. I can see how maybe you're concerned about like what those outcomes might be. But for like when you're playing at about to go to college level
Starting point is 00:57:37 and this is like, you know, you're fully at this point, I don't think these kids have to be realistic. They're not getting in the fucking NFL. It is what it is point i don't think these kids have to be realistic they're not getting in the fucking nfl it is what it is i don't know like i'm i don't see if i'm not sure if they're protected by having like some kind of more articulated mercy rule or something like that yeah what do you do what is the move what's the quote classy like you put in the second on your third string yeah exactly and they kept their their players on and i just don't know like i it's hard for me to say like oh that's objectively like terrible and immoral thing to do i'm like objectively this team is better than the other one
Starting point is 00:58:15 right right yeah i don't know and i kind of like you said it's like high school and so i don't know these kids like playing the game i don't i really i'm not the authority on on football you guys i know said earlier that i was and i am wearing pads i'm wearing full pads but yep and you took your mouth guard out for us thank you but i mean i don't know jack like what do you think i mean you've you're you come from a coaching tradition you're familiar with like what that means and what it means to athletes but are is it again like i said if there's a line being drawn i can see it with like truly you like true youth sports right you know like you don't want a six-year-old crying because like they just they'll
Starting point is 00:58:57 never believe in themselves because some like phenom kids like you know just destroyed them in a game i think when it becomes a national news story that's probably a little bit too much for the losing team like when it's an unprecedented ass kicking that like when there are 40 kids who are the like butt of a national news story joke like that probably sucks for them in a way they are you you don't think the kids who lost feel weird coming to school and like knowing that they're a part like that they're on the daily zeitgeist for instance i mean that's but i'm not but i'm not taking shots at them for losing okay i'm not saying you know what i mean it's not being like ha ha these kids suck i'm like
Starting point is 00:59:42 holy shit this team scored 106 points. Sure. That's like they must be phenomenal athletes. Yeah. But the story by default is going to have that, whether you're thinking it or not, like somebody is going to be. Right. But the mere attention is that it's drawing attention to the the absolute L that this team has taken. But I'm I'm just curious of like psychologically, you know, if we're playing it out,
Starting point is 01:00:05 like what is it like? Is it is this something that's going to follow them around for the rest of their lives? Are they like irreversibly changed by losing 106 to nothing? Because I remember like I was in high school, too. Like we would go up against teams. You're like, you know, they have three kids that are going to D1 schools.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Like we're going to get absolutely fucking battered. It was known, accepted, it happened, fine. Even if it was a huge blowout, I mean, not arriving to a big old goose egg to 106 points, but there is a preparation that I feel like athletes do do when they go, we're just up against something that's a completely different quantity in our high school league. At what point is it funny like at what point does it become a funny story you tell people like i was in high school and we got demolished right right i think when does that turn yeah the more i think about it the more this is probably bad for people who care too much about high school football and that's it so i'm kind
Starting point is 01:01:05 of okay with it because like right i cared too much about my high school basketball team we sucked and now in and pretty soon after in retrospect i didn't give a shit and thought it was kind of funny that we had the lacrosse coach coaching us and he didn't really know the rules of basketball and but like yeah so anybody who is on the zero end of this of this loss you know probably shouldn't care much about football at this point because they're not going anywhere it's not doing anything for them i i would imagine and also like sports is kind of silly in the end. Right. And when you see like their responses on some of the tweets that have described this game, like you will see the kinds of people, Jack, you're talking about where like it's some
Starting point is 01:01:52 guy in like a Ranger pickup truck with like his wraparound shades. It's like, hey, in Texas, they would have put on the third string. That's why Texas high school football coaches are cut above and classy. And like those were the takes. Like it's like yeah of course this happens in california like i was like i don't know even what this means what are the stakes for you sir i don't understand the sanctity yeah right and but i mean in general right like losing is just something that will occur like you will you will take l's in life
Starting point is 01:02:19 in general like i have been metaphorically experienced a blowout when i've you know tried to challenge myself or thought i was capable of something because of my own overconfidence and i was like oh shit i actually have a lot to learn that didn't go nearly as close as i thought it would and i need to either redouble my efforts or understand like oh maybe this isn't for me but like to say like to avoid an experience like that at all. And I'm not saying kids need to get blown out 106 to nothing, but I just don't think it arrives at this thing that we're, you know, it's, it's, uh, you know, pearl clutching time. I mean, I'm a socialist in America.
Starting point is 01:02:55 I do nothing but take L's constantly. Like that's, that is the lived experience of every leftist in America. But yeah, you need, you need to probably learn how to, how to deal with this. I, the thing you were saying about the Texas college football coach, I'm wondering if like college football coach has become the coolest job in like mean,
Starting point is 01:03:20 like middle, like if you just took the average of all Americans, like the job that they have the most respect for would be college football coach because we have fucking ted lasso where like they've created this fucking religious figure who's the college football coach we've got like a tommy tuberville we've got like a lot of college football coaches who are like entering politics they're like our new, like former military person, like the highest honor you can achieve is like winning a bunch of games in football.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Like, right. I think that's fully true. And I think they have done surveys where they're like, who is the most respected person state by state. And for a lot of the States, it's like the big, like in the Southeast,
Starting point is 01:04:03 especially. Yeah. Yeah. They're up there with like the king of kings himself christ or donald trump depending right yeah praise them and they are they all are already like the highest paid people in each state like state employees in each state so right that's again i mean and aside from like arguments like injuries can occur like if a game is already like a thing, well, it's like, well, then you need to actually articulate some kind of law that would be like, no, sorry, this game is out of reach. It's over. Yeah. And then also like a lot of people like that could also have an effect on players, too, if you're really concerned, if they're like, oh, we're so bad. Like, yeah, we're just waiting for this inevitable death point in the in the match. We're just waiting for this inevitable death point in the match. Because people talk about, where's the outrage?
Starting point is 01:04:49 And someone in the root wrote up, they're like, Lisa Leslie scored over, I think, nearly 100 points in her high school basketball game. And people were like, this is great. Yeah. Well, there are some racist white people who are not like that, I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, it's just interesting of at what point you allow a superior talent to just do their thing and just be like shit and like
Starting point is 01:05:10 yeah it's what it is yeah just salute yeah tear tear streaming down your face yeah god bless you if anything this was probably the safest college football game because nobody's like trying at the end of that game when you're getting beat 106 to nothing nobody's gonna like put their body on the line try and get a fucking concussion to stop them from scoring i mean at a certain point like if it were me as a as a uh high school student i would be rooting for the other team to score so that i had a story to tell it's a meme yeah it's a meme i think it's like yeah i think especially if it was football like i would immediately see the humor in it and be like kind of you know right me too and i feel like if you're if you're on the other team you you kind of lay down so you don't give him a highlight reel yeah so like any of the good
Starting point is 01:06:03 plays he's doing look weird. Like just start doing weird stuff on the field so he can't use it. Because if you're trying it's going to look like a little dominating. Grab your chest and pretend you're having a heart attack. As the ball is snapped. Or just keep going. Just encroachment
Starting point is 01:06:20 penalties. So you just march them up the field with your encroachment penalties. Yeah, try to hug him try to kiss him like you do all sorts of weird shit yeah you're doing so good i love you you guys are so good wow because again i just want to point out lisa leslie's has scored 101 points in 16 minutes that's yeah wait what yes the irony too is that she went to morningside which is the school that got In 16 minutes. That's, yeah. Wait, what? Yes. How the fuck is that even possible?
Starting point is 01:06:48 The irony, too, is that she went to Morningside, which is the school that got blown out. Hey, all right. Are you serious? It's a balance. Really, life is about balance, guys. Look, she did 101 points in 16 minutes. Y'all lost 106 to nothing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:59 There's all that. Legends are being created constantly. We're back to square one. I mean, that is karma. That is karmic as fuck. All right. And finally, we just want to talk about
Starting point is 01:07:08 the Tomahawk Chop because... Maybe the World Series will be over at this point and it might not. Yeah, I feel like the World Series is probably going to be over or heading towards being over
Starting point is 01:07:17 if you were aware that it was happening because what says global competition better than a game played between Texas and Georgia? But as everybody probably knows by now, because of the gif of Melania rolling her eyes at Donald Trump, the first couple was at game four or former first couple and trump thanked the uh mlb for inviting him and then the officials had to come out and be like uh we didn't invite you man you specifically has to come
Starting point is 01:07:55 so atlanta gave him a box which is you know probably to protect him and yeah like that's it's just something that nobody has ever had to do with a former president which is like i just so we're clear we did not about the invitation no no no no no we do not honor him and yeah so they famously uh did the racist tomahawk chop and people are now you know people on the right are like liberal sports writers are trying to cancel the Braves because, you know, they claim that liberal sports writers hate the sport and fans and our country. Donald Trump Jr. retweeted a picture of,
Starting point is 01:08:38 or a video of his dad doing the tomahawk chop and said, the left, the chop is racist, Americans. And then just showed his dad doing the racist thing wow americans also racist what was your point he's so bad at it kind of lost the thread there i i every halloween i'm reminded of the time when he dressed up in a uh american flag onesie like leotard and his dad's face for halloween like i think it was 2017 it was very troubling just psychologically yeah what's going on there but it's like i like though how even like with this right is even they're like they're trying to cancel but it there's always like these things like actually man like native american people like love it so like i don't know
Starting point is 01:09:23 what i don't know what everyone's problem is. Yeah. Like, really, sir. Can you find me some quotes? Yeah. All right. It's the I have a black friend and he says I'm allowed to use the N word defense. The Native American community and that. So this is from MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred.
Starting point is 01:09:40 The Native American community in that region is fully supportive of the BRAVES program, including the CHOP. For me, that's kind of the end of the story. Oh, shit. Except several indigenous groups, including the Atlanta Indigenous Peoples Association and the National Congress of American Indians, have spoken out against the gesture, explicitly contradicting that bullshit narrative that the commish was trying to come with. Well, then it's probably only been happening recently. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's only been happening happening recently it's just because it's woke culture stuff so the last time the braves were in the world series in 1991 there were like widely publicized stop the chop protests in 1991 30 years ago yeah well know, 1991 was a very, very woke time. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:26 I, man, Nirvana. Ugh. Got my blood boiling just thinking about the woke culture that Kurt Cobain brought to. And the MLB commissioner at that time buried the issue and was like, we need more education, but
Starting point is 01:10:42 we'll talk more about it after the World Series, which they did not. And the Atlanta team did put an educational installment in the ballpark to, quote, educate fans on the Cherokee culture and customs. There, done. Done. Done and done. So the chop and the song that they sing along
Starting point is 01:11:06 with it originates with a literal cartoon. It shares similarities with the theme song for a racist cartoon from the 50s called Pow Wow the Indian Boy, which was on the Captain Kangaroo show. And yeah, it's not great. It's based
Starting point is 01:11:22 on old college marching band songs with names like war chant and massacre and it's but i mean college marching band songs are all you know good and not racist and horrifying so we're all good there but people are pointing out that trump may have actually helped the protest movement because yeah what better than have him right the the mascot of racism like cosigns the thing that you're trying to claim is not racist there you go yeah smiling ear to ear being like this is what i do me yeah and then his son being like just people think this is racist but here is my dad a racist doing the racist thing so uh what's your point? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Anyways. So the chop is racist. And I think it's one of those things where like the Braves and also the Chicago Blackhawks have managed to kind of keep it, stay low. Right. Wow. Like the Cleveland Guardians or Washington football team. Very quickly.
Starting point is 01:12:22 People like that. Huh? What's up? What? Because I think those are the most, the least nuanced versions. Yes. Of just like, yeah, right?
Starting point is 01:12:31 And one is a slur. Right. And the other one has one of the most offensive mascots I've ever seen. Yeah. I mean, that's... Yeah, and even the Braves
Starting point is 01:12:40 had Chief Nakahoma and stuff. He lived in like a teepee, like in the fucking field and shit. But like, I've seen TP, like in the fucking field and shit. But like, I've seen like, I think the last time, like there was even a, an attempt for a reckoning,
Starting point is 01:12:50 like with the Chicago Blackhawks in the NHL, they were saying like, Oh, it's an, the Blackhawk was this actual person and we're actually honoring him. That's what the whole point is. He loved hockey. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:03 So we do it. He's so into it. He came by it he played some games told us he was cool with it yeah doing doing some pickup uh for some beaver pelts uh you know uh you know like with some traders you know you know how you know how he got down but they did the same thing too like we actually have like an exhibit and so like we're like trying to educate people, but even then like local activists were like, that's not enough. What is this? Yeah. Super producer DJ Dramos has pointed out the Braves were in the world series in 99.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Duh. I mean, as if we could forget, I'm sure that is one of those things I was wrong about that not a single member of the psych gang would have pointed out, but I don't know not i don't know you know we have we have listeners of the atl there they'll be like excuse you bro yeah that's true mariano rivera freaking blew us out i don't know why i'm talking like a new yorker no that was a perfect atlanta accent perfect atl and we have had we've had a full a fully offensive world Series before we've had the Braves versus the Indians 95
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Starting point is 01:14:16 well Joe it's been a pleasure having you on Daily Zeitgeist man where can people find you and follow you yeah they can follow me on Twitter
Starting point is 01:14:25 at Joe K. Joe K. On Instagram at Joe Kwa. J-O-E-K-W-A. And you can listen to my Rock and Roll Hall of Fame podcast, Who Cares About the Rock Hall, anywhere you get podcasts. And you know what? My half-hour special on Comedy Central, you can watch it on Paramount+.
Starting point is 01:14:42 If you don't have that, DM me and I will just send it to you. Hey, there you go. It is very funny. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? You know, we've been talking about sports a decent amount in this episode
Starting point is 01:14:58 and I would like to point to a tweet that my friend Zach Dunn, who's a very uh funny comedy writer writes for what we do in the shadows uh he tweeted out this confusing video of the orlando magic mascot but he's like it's like an inflatable version there's someone inside it and he's dancing and the song is going like yada yada yada and he's just like hopping around and he falls over and he just wrote basketball the beautiful game it's wild to look at it makes me feel like i'm time traveling i don't know what's it like
Starting point is 01:15:32 my eyes are gonna start bleeding but yeah yeah i just i just uh i didn't know what to do and then i just started laughing very hard miles where can people find you what's the tweet you've been enjoying uh you can find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray also check out the other show 420 day fiance with sophia alexandra and i talking 90 day fiance and let's see some tweets that i like shit how about this one uh this one is from patrick cosmos at very important tweeted every work email i send out is basically hello sorry thanks patrick so i was like yo i love i love the distillation of that and then mari uehara at mari uehara u-y-e-h-a-r-a tweeted you should be able to buy two celery stalks. And I can't
Starting point is 01:16:27 agree more because whenever I need a recipe, I'm like, and now I got five stalks that are just going to turn to fucking nothing. Vegetables just in general start to smell bad. At least fruit gets fermented and starts smelling like
Starting point is 01:16:42 an alcoholic beverage of some sort. But vegetables just smell like old person's breath when they go bad. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. Joel Kim Booster tweeted, ACAB includes Chris Pratt. And Chris Fleming at Chris Fluming tweeted, ACAB includes Chris Pratt. Chris Fleming at Chris Fluming tweeted, I have a feeling my mom's about to find out about
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Starting point is 01:17:29 talked about in today's episode as well as the song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do we think people i mean look the drum and bass antics continue my love for the artist pink pantherist continues and this is a track called I Must Apologize. But it's spelled with an S because UK. So check out I Must Apologize by Pink Pantherist. Just a great, like, another one. Just another, I just like seeing how, like, these, like, younger artists are incorporating, like, 90s drum and bass, like, into pop songs now. And it just feels, I love it. I love it.
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