The Daily Zeitgeist - Bicycles = Anti-Monarchy? Rail Workers Want Humane Treatment 09.15.22

Episode Date: September 15, 2022

In episode 1331, Jack and Miles are joined by actor, comedian, musician and host of Cold Brew Got Me Like, Chris Crofton, to discuss… Rail Workers ready to STRIKE…biz media wants you to freak out!... King Charles III: I’m Pretty Sure This Is Going to Be Very Funny And Very Convincing, The Queen’s Funeral Is Already A Sh-tshow and more! Rail Workers ready to STRIKE…biz media wants you to freak out!  Congress prepares to act on rail strike amid fears of ‘economic catastrophe’ King Charles III: I’m Pretty Sure This Is Going to Be Very Funny And Very Convincing The Queen’s Funeral Is Already A Sh-tshow Queen Elizabeth's Coffin Makes Procession Through London Followed by Royal Family McDonald’s to close every UK restaurant for the Queen’s funeral Center Parcs backtracks over eviction of holidaymakers for Queen’s funeral Center Parcs backtracks on Queen's funeral closure plans Queen’s funeral could push U.K. into ‘technical recession’: economic forecast Hospital appointments cancelled because of Queen’s funeral Buy The Advice King Anthology here. LISTEN: Vilified by Stimulator JonesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:54 iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 254, episode 4 of The Daily Zeitgeist! A production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America, sometimes Britain's shared consciousness, or at least marvel from a distance at Britain's shared consciousness sometimes.
Starting point is 00:02:20 It is Thursday, September 15th, 2022, which is, of course, the birthday of prince harry shout out to prince harry it's your birthday bro you're a really good man i love you bro you're my brother because i was also born on this day but i will recognize your birthday is dead. Yeah, yeah, I'm on that later. Hit me up. Prince Harry. Massive, mate. Absolutely massive. Get in, Harry. Get in. Yeah, it's also National Linguini Day, National Cheese Toast Day,
Starting point is 00:02:57 National Creme de Menthe Day, National Double Cheeseburger Day, National Felt Hat Day, National Neonatal Nurses Day, National Tackle Kids Cancer Day. A lot of good shit. Damn, dude. They're trying to overshadow you with all these days. I'm already dealing with Harry fucking Prince Harry shit, but I'll take cheese toast.
Starting point is 00:03:15 You know, I like cheese toast. That's one of my favorite things to eat, actually. Linguini, one of the top words in the English language, according to the Ghostface Killer. Oh, yeah. According to the Ghostface Killer Oh yeah, according to the Ghostface Killer machine learning rap assembler
Starting point is 00:03:30 that we conceived of Anyways, let's see My name's Jack O'Brien aka He Who Baja Blast He Who Baja's Blast, Baja's Best which is from Weenage Taste Land,
Starting point is 00:03:49 and is a short show title, or a.k.a. referencing a thing. I'd never heard that. He who laughs last laughs best. I've never heard it phrased like that. But all right, let's do it. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! It's Miles Gray, a.k.a. Hideo Noho, the true prince of North Hollywood. Thank you so much for having me.
Starting point is 00:04:10 It's wonderful to be here on this Thursday. Well, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the very cases on Mount Zeitmore, a hilarious stand-up comedian, actor, musician with a 7.6 rated album on Pitchfork to his name. You can listen to his podcast, Cold Brew Got Me Like.
Starting point is 00:04:27 You can read his new book, The Advice King Anthology. The poetry window is open. Hold on to your bus. It's Chris motherfucking Crofton! Chris Crofton! Wow. That was incredible. What's up, man?
Starting point is 00:04:41 I love that list. Nothing. I'm just sitting in Monrovia in a fucking garage. But man, oh man, that was an intro. That's so good because whenever anybody asks me what my credits are, I'm always like, you know what I mean? Like you started. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:56 That's so good that you see. That's why you have a, where are you sitting? You're not sitting in a fucking garage. I'm not. Cause you know how to say some credits. I'm like, I don't want to say credits. It not cool like okay have fun in your garage dog let's let us say the credits for you you know have fun sitting next to a piece of sheet rock old guy hey look i got a trash bag for a window uh shade well is it your birthday by the way is that what we were
Starting point is 00:05:22 alluding to that is yeah, yeah. Happy birthday. Subtle allusions to it. That's awesome. Very subtle, very subtle. Not been harping on that for five years now. That's great. I like you a lot better than Prince Harry. Thanks, man. A lot better.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Oh, man. I don't know him, and I know he's better than me. Do you think so? I just believe it. Come on, now. Yeah. Fuck no. I don't believe that at all.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I just want... Honestly, my dream is to corrupt him. Oh. Is to hang out with him and be like, do what now? And I'm like, we're going to smoke now. Oh, you got wet, Harry? Yeah. Oh, shit. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Okay. What? Did you say get wet? Yeah. Is that smoking like a- Angel dust? Oh my God. It's a line from training day.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Come on. You think the Royals haven't smoked angel dust That's true They probably invented that shit One of the main Side effects of smoking angel dust Is having like 40 corgis That's true
Starting point is 00:06:17 Prince Charles I can only imagine how they're like I need my angels dust Who knows what those people do They've got all angels is a great tell that you're an undercover cop do you have any angels dust i'm sorry are you putting a possessive s on the end of that my man where are you from i'm from england my good sir. Englewood-land. I'm trying to think of a fancy name for bath salts right now,
Starting point is 00:06:48 but I can't think of anything. Ah, yes. Bathing salts. Bathing salts there. Hurry, bring my bathing salts and my angel's dust. Oh, fuck. But you think those royals, man, they got all day, every day off.
Starting point is 00:07:04 She's 96. She's had every day off for like she's 96 she's had every day off yeah so you know imagine she must be who knows putting hats on those corgis smoking angel dust right all this like yeah i mean like being like unemployed for a long time can put you in like a weird you don't you get weird hobbies in Longs. Hello! But imagine if you had the budget of the British crown behind it. I bet you're actually secretly friends with King Charles on one of those mud-larping YouTube fans. Yeah, the only difference between me and them is that they get their cold brew handed to them.
Starting point is 00:07:44 They don't have to pour it. Right, exactly. That's the only difference between me and them is that they get their cold brew handed to them. They don't have to pour it. Right, exactly. That's the only difference. I do see, like, King Charles is also into mudlarking. And then he tells Chris, he's like, we've done it, mate. I can finally stop the Thames and we can mudlark for days. I'm going to damn it up. You're damn right.
Starting point is 00:08:02 That's right. Do you remember that children's book called the seven chinese brothers does anyone remember that i do where the god swallowed the ocean yeah a lot of my archaeology interests come from that book and i can place it like i remember reading that book and that kid in the book swallowed the ocean i don't know why i think it was so they could get the fish without without fishing you know because they could just drain the ocean. I don't know why. I think it was so they could get the fish without, without fishing, you know, cause they could just drain the ocean.
Starting point is 00:08:28 And like one of the Chinese brothers could swallow the ocean. That was one of his tricks. Each one had like a skill. Right. And there was some moral to the story. Like he ended up swallowing the ocean or dying or something. Like there was some reason where it's like, you have to fish normal.
Starting point is 00:08:40 You can't swallow the ocean. Like there was a moral. I don't know what the moral of it was but i but when he drained the ocean plus i'm sure that this is like you know probably racist in some way the seven chinese brothers already like written in like 1968 like it's gotta have some kind of problem but i uh i don't know but. I remember the illustrations were a little like, huh? Oh, yeah. Definitely not right.
Starting point is 00:09:07 No, it's not. It seems like there's an updated version that is less insensitive. So anyway, one of the Chinese brothers swallows the ocean and the other brothers go in and get the fish, I think was the idea. But in the illustration, you could see all the sunken ships. And I used to think, oh, my my god you could just go in there and get the treasure chests just walk up to him basically and i tried to make my brother swallow the ocean yeah and he went to the hospital yeah because you tried by holding his head under oh yeah yeah totally yeah yeah we barely got any in i realized you know people talk about video games with those books back then and give you some bad ideas too yeah they're bad ideas all around us you just need to know where to look
Starting point is 00:09:50 anyway yeah so that you're right they would damn the goddamn thames they would they'd be like i'd like to mudlark today right blow some horn and then like 12 dudes would have to like pull some lever or a bunch of dudes gotta swallow it no i want them to swallow it i want to talk more about the royals yeah all right well i mean we're gonna get to know you a little bit better a couple of things we're talking about we're gonna talk about rail workers getting ready to strike and how the business media is covering that story and then we got a couple royals things we've got the the queen's funeral is already a shit show just lots of people's surgeries and being canceled people uh you know food pantries being closed for the hungry it is truly just like a touchdown dance for
Starting point is 00:10:42 privilege it is like everybody yeah they're like not only will we light all the money on fire that you've been giving us for years and just a lavish display of wealth while like just rolling this old lady's dead body down the street but we're also going to make it so you can't do anything but watch us do that, including have a life and keep living. So we'll talk about that. I've been doing a bit of a dive ever since I've seen those couple clips of King Charles just being such a baby. Baby. I'm baby.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Every time these blasted pens. Every time these blasted pens. Stinking. Stinking. Every time these stinking things. About a pen not working the way he wanted it to. Anyways, it reminded me of this article I read from a few years back. There was a review of a book by a royalist. And the context is she really is rooting for him. But the whole is like, she really is like rooting for him.
Starting point is 00:11:45 But like, you could just the whole book, you could just tell she like really hates. It's like, he's this guy's the fucking worst. So there's just some great details in there that we might get to. That sounds fun. All of that fucking royalist,
Starting point is 00:12:00 whatever the hell that anymore. Yeah, I know it's crown. They have before we get to any of that shit though chris we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history well you know i i feel like a lot of pressure at this point you know because i've been on the show enough that like i basically have run out of like actual things i watch you know what i mean like i've kind of moved into full-time mining you know
Starting point is 00:12:26 abandoned mines you know i'm not to actually mine but i mean we know we know yeah yeah thanks thank you miles it's like a therapy session it's not your fault it's not your fault yeah it's not my fault it's not but that's good you're honoring my mom's fault so i was gonna i have one thing to talk about abandoned mines but i thought i would just mention one thing i have been watching is uh you know hunting around youtube i found this thing the coney island creek i'm kind of like really into coney island like i when i was in new york in june going to coney island was like i seriously am happier in that place than anywhere else. And I think it's just simply because it's like it's fucking housing projects at the beach. It's like democracy the way it's supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:13:15 It's the fucking melting pot. It's all this shit that you, you know, that America is supposed to stand for, but it only stands for like occasionally. You know, or like maybe you never did but it just in certain pockets you can get an idea of like this is a neat place like everybody's a different fucking color everyone's just doing their thing they don't give a fuck what anybody else is doing i'm studying my lines walking down the i was in a play so i'm studying the lines walking down the boardwalk and you know and there's someone on a fucking i mean it's hacked to say unicycle but i think really you know you that's the kind of scene it is it's like a person on a unicycle and then it's
Starting point is 00:13:49 a person who's just like yelling into their phone about you know something about someone lost his pumas or something and uh it's just a and then there's just an amusement park right next to a housing project right next to i mean it's just it's what america could be to me and then that scene closes with a child being attacked by a puma because they weren't talking about their shoes they were talking about yeah i don't know why i mean there's yeah losing there are that is a thing that happens a lot in new york city if you've ever been to new york there's always like exotic animals that are being discovered in various places well yeah and there's a lot of russian mob out in brighton beach and in coney island area so i was imagining because there's like a
Starting point is 00:14:29 lot of like russian mob kind of looking people and then there's a lot of like oh i don't know what just tourists and all kinds of everything but anyway russian mob i was imagining some guy like yelling at like his wife or his pumas were but that's like you know that i have no idea what the russian mob does obviously i don't know i'm not in their business but one can only speak but anyway it's just a very diverse and and just and then you look over and the fucking cyclones going and it's been going since 1927 it's the same fucking cyclone yeah and i just want to metal detect everywhere you know hot dogs hot dogs yeah that is right that is from coney island have you guys been to coney
Starting point is 00:15:06 island no it's weird it's a place i've romanticized because stefan marbury has a tattoo that says coney island's finest yeah and i always was like whoa what a place like and the movie he got game yeah exactly like sets their great basketball player he He's growing up in Coney Island. Oh, really? Yeah. And it gives a lot. Coney Island is a character in the movie He Got Game, for sure. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I went on one of the best dates of my life to Coney Island. Just went there for a day, rode our bikes out there, ate our weight in junk food, saw the White Stripes play at the little ballpark out there ate our weight in junk food saw the white stripes play at the little ballpark out there and uh yeah that was my wife uh when we were dating what i've never been on a date but if i go on a date i'd like to go it's good it's a good place yeah yeah yeah but uh so the thing i was going to say was uh just about the search history was the so i've been looking into the coney island creek which is like an inlet that is one of the most polluted bodies of water but they've cleaned it a little but now they're talking about damming it because
Starting point is 00:16:16 a hurricane whatever it was sandy came through there right but if they damn it then it won't clean itself because it's a fucking title and if they damn it then the tide won't come in and out and it's already got you know it really butts up against like like there's like an old shipyard and the remains of an old shipyard right up against the back of a home depot you know i mean it's that it's that like you can go find the 19th century right next to yeah home depot and i just find that stuff fascinating great place for studying mosquitoes and new breeds of oh my god i can't imagine waterborne viruses the whole i mean for like 500 no not 500 years america's not even like whatever for however long a long time they were just dumping like back in
Starting point is 00:16:57 the old days they were just like we'll dump everything in the water and then it'll go away and so it's it's just insane what they dumped in there like it's like the whole bottom of the fucking inlet is just coated with like you know butane or mercury or whatever not butane but you know what i mean like methane i don't know what the fuck it is just like they basically just like had a shoe like a hundred years of shoe factories just throwing all their shit in the water and just being like and then smoking cigars so i just love that but anyway i love the history of like home depot against the 19th century and you know and which is better i mean they both sucked i guess so one covered the bottom of the ocean in greece and the other is you know an unchecked monopoly
Starting point is 00:17:43 right they both suck. However, at least with the old days, there were some characters down by the docks. Now everybody at Home Depot is just depressed. And they're like, I think it's an aisle 12, but I also don't give a fuck. It's important to me that you know that I don't give a fuck. Where is it at? I don't know. I'll fuck you.
Starting point is 00:18:05 I'm going to tell you a number. It might be the right number, but I want you to know that I don't give a fuck. Where is it at? I don't know. I'll fuck you. I'm going to tell you a number. It might be the right number, but I want you to know that I don't give a fuck if it is or not. So in 1967, this dude built his own submarine called the Quester I. And he was like a shipyard worker
Starting point is 00:18:21 and he had a dream to build a submarine that he was going to send down to the Andrea Doria. Therea doria was a passenger liner that collided with some other passenger liner or something or and they ran into each other and the swedish ship stayed up and the andrea doria went down and uh some like a lot of people were rescued but like 50 people died or something and this guy was like i'm gonna go down there and get their valuables. And he also was like,
Starting point is 00:18:45 I'm going to go down there and actually raise the, he wanted to raise the Andrea Doria with this sub called the quest or one. And he built a sub for a homemade sub. He built a sub out of scrap metal. He had a, there was a lot of hoopla about it. I knew nothing about it. And I was watching this video and this guy was like,
Starting point is 00:19:02 there's the old sub. He was like kayaking by this fucking submarine that's sticking out of this like inlet full of shoe polish right and and then and and it's been there it it turned out that it never got off the ground like he spent like six years building this thing out of scrap metal so that it's just and it's kind of beautiful and he put it in but the ballast wasn't right because it was expensive to put the right ballast in so he only put half the ballast in and he told the crane operator to just lower it in a little but the crane operator dropped it straight down it got stuck in the mud and it didn't ever move again because it was too heavy holy shit and it got blown by a
Starting point is 00:19:41 storm and now it sticks pretty substantially out of this body of water that's right behind Home Depot in fucking Coney Island. People, like, paint it yellow and shit, too? It's yellow on top, because he originally painted all yellow, and I've watched enough videos about it now that I know that they painted it yellow because it was the cheapest paint he could find. Like, it was the cheapest, like, waterproof paint he could find. Because they were like, is it a Beatles reference? but it was like before that song wow so this guy and he was alive in like 2019 so these people he's been bothered about it his whole life this giant failure imagine like hello what about your submarine man tell the story about how your fucking submarine you spent like 50 years building fell in the mud yeah how'd you get this number
Starting point is 00:20:26 the crane like dropped it but it was so fucking heavy got stuck in the mud hello this is chris crofton is uh yeah it was yellow got stuck in the mud asshole bye exactly and he's told it like i'm sure he was excited to tell it like the first few times but then youtube came and he was like oh no yeah right back up there's like four drones above that fucking thing like colliding it's like i don't have i don't have any urge to get in a professionally constructed submarine let alone one that i like but that does seem to be a an urge that some people have is to build build their own submarine and like get get down there and then especially pre-internet yeah the fuck was there to do you wait a lot you
Starting point is 00:21:11 wait in line for tickets to the boston concert or you build your own submarine yeah you couldn't just quickly google how badly it went for everybody else or you like eat copenhagen because you're tired of just sticking it in your gum. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll get an overrated and underrated. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
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Starting point is 00:25:21 Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Chris Crofton, what is something you think is overrated? Well, those are short. So I'm just going to tell you one other thing about the mining in the abandoned mine. Well, those are short, so let me... Allow me to reclaim some time for the previews.
Starting point is 00:25:58 We're going to need to pad it out. So I just was watching this abandoned mine video, and you guys can find it. I talk about it on... I find it i just i talk about it on i don't know if i talk about it on on my podcast but uh anyway i put it up on my instagram at the crofton show but this guy was going through the abandoned mine on the third level which is called the 300 level which is because i know too much like it's the levels are called 100 200 300 like 300 meaning 300 feet underground right and he was on the fucking 300 level of a mine. And there's a bunch of old shit down there, like fucking 1960s carnation, fucking powdered milk and all kinds of stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:31 And then he's like, oh, and look, an old case of Skippy's peanut butter. Oh, and that's a, oh, a porno mag. There was a fucking hustler from like, and I could tell, I know my hustlers. Yeah. That's from the night that was a shiny hustler that was like from the 90s so who the fuck was masturbating on the 300 level of a i mean i understand being paranoid your parents are gonna come in on you yeah but you don't gotta put but that seems like overkill and this guy buried the lead i mean he had no interest he's
Starting point is 00:27:00 like he was like oh look an old thing of old peanut butter. And then he's like, oh, and a porn bag and like sped by it. Oh, man. Which I was like, man, you're like, that's the hook. Yeah, it's the best thing that's ever happened in an abandoned mine. Right. We understand someone drank evaporated milk and ate Skippy and white bread sandwiches on their mining ship. I mean, I want to know. But the 1991 Hustler.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Who brought a porn bag? Was it like, were they trolling future hunters? Right. You know what I mean? Or was it a masturbatory station that people went to where that was left there as the pornographic material for other travelers? When you're a young kid, it's hard to get porn. Oh, yeah. And it's possible that some kids were like, listen.
Starting point is 00:27:40 That was like those kids. Yeah. You want to go masturbate? Yeah. Real good. Not where you have to go you want to go masturbate yeah real good not where you have to think like look at a toothbrush i think it looks pornography was i think maybe my first lesson lesson in like communal ownership oh right you know what i mean we're like oh you got the tape right now it's like oh i got the tape do you need the tape i say yes i'll bring it tomorrow i'll bring the tape tomorrow for you and then please allow yes you can dub it if you got two VCRs and then bring the original back to me because I need to allow someone else to dub this.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Teenage porn socialism. That's amazing. Hiding them in the forest. I know a lot of people talk about that. So it's like. Oh, God. That's a whole. But the mind shit is a little worrisome.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Like at the 300 level, I'm imagining it might be a little unstable. Like it's not safe to go that deep. Like I get when you're just putzing around and like the top entrance area, but like going deep, I would be like, Oh, is this shit about to just collapse? Right.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Well, it's just disrespectful to the history around you. It's like old gloves. I'm sorry, Chris. I don't care about the disrespect. I'm talking about personal safety down there. Miles.
Starting point is 00:28:44 There's old gloves, man. There's no gloves. I don't care about the disrespect. I'm talking about personal safety down there. For miles, there's old glugs, man. I know. There's old glugs. I just like that Chris and I catch somebody with their fucking porn bags down there. I'm like, yo, get out of here, jackass. You're going to hurt yourself in this old mine. And you're going to be like, have you no respect for the mine? Have you no respect for it?
Starting point is 00:29:01 Do you masturbate at the Smithsonian Institution? Yeah. They wouldn't let you. Oh, but because this isn't a federally funded heritage site. Oh, all bets are off and it's Jackie's Jack-off-porium. I just want to know more about it. I can't believe the guy skimmed over it. But the underrated would be, I was just going to say, being respectful to creeps when they die.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Someone's probably talked about it in the last few days like just the idea that out of the woodwork come all these conservative people being like don't you know like how dare you make fun of ken star yeah exactly like it's like why that is such horseshit these are the same people that you know like say burn baby burn when they execute a murderer. Right. Of course. You know, I just think it's I just because I said something about wrongfully convicted murderer.
Starting point is 00:29:53 I'm sure. Yeah, it's just horseshit. It's the same as like we don't put Supreme Court judges on the court close to an election. It's all these made up fucking rules that don't make any sense. If someone's a bad person, you do not have to. You can be glad a bad person died. It makes sense. It's not complicated.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Like, you know, like it makes me so mad. I just made fun of. I mean, I'm not saying, well, here we go. I'm starting to backpedal. But, you know, like Queen Elizabeth, you know, I made a joke, you know, Corgi pallbearers, you know, Corgi priest or whatever, you know. And I said, Corgi delivered her eulogy and said, she's weird. Right. Or she was weird, you know.
Starting point is 00:30:34 She was weird. And people are like, you know, I put that up on social media because I've got important, you know, because I'm an important person. Hell yeah. I'm wondering what you're thinking. Doing important person. Hell yeah. I'm wondering what you're thinking. Doing important work. And a bunch of people are like, nice work, asshole, libtard, motherfucker, making fun of the dead.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Great job. It's like, it's so dishonest. It's just insane. There is no reason to be sad about people who are bad who die. And they can't do any more bad stuff it's a simple equation when rupert murdoch dies it will be good objectively very good and people will be like you just can't it doesn't matter if they're bad wait well what about his family they're really they're really going through it now yeah they're a bunch of pieces of shit too right they're carrying the fucking torch man man. Fuck them.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I hope they all die soon too. So there's something to get right in their minds. It sounds bad. It sounds bad. But I mean, I'm just saying, you know, whatever. Maybe Lachlan's nice. But I don't know why we have to give these people the benefit of the doubt. They're not giving us the benefit of the doubt.
Starting point is 00:31:40 They're stomping on our graves. Yeah, but if there's no like inbuilt accepted like status of being like well when they're there you can't gloat or be happy about their demise like if you know it's i think as our our willingness to like respect or revere these institutions or roads like the freakouts become more vivid or people like man that's really no way to do that like you don't want to do that like you don't want to talk about people like that i don't know right it's like superstition or something like somehow you're gonna it's just some bullshit because it doesn't make any sense because these people are are not respectful to living people i don't even understand i scream at on the internet and call you a fucking flat-headed pancake
Starting point is 00:32:25 or whatever the fuck people call people. That is mainly what they call them these days. What is that? An insult from a joke book you found out in the mine? Flat-headed pancake face? That's redundant. I think that was like how
Starting point is 00:32:42 I would come up with disses. I think I called someone spaghetti sauce these people don't reserve their meanness for the dead i'm just saying i mean they're mean as fuck these people i'm not out here you know you're not stopping the presses to like shit on some obscure person who is doing their job and like you're like i don't know this person somebody who has you know through the descending or ascension of the crown and like this idea of, you know, especially as it relates to like the monarchy of like the divine right of kings and shit. It's horrible. That's fucking bullshit.
Starting point is 00:33:16 That's bullshit. You have the opportunity. If you if you are taking that, if you're benefiting from this, like this weird concept of like your divine right as a monarch then but you gotta come you then guess what you own everything that's come along with that yes and that includes that's all you that's you that's you okay that's why you don't have a last name that's how fucking poppin you are you don't have a fucking last name i don't give a fuck i'm talking about motherfuckers i don't have last names they're so fucking powerful yeah i just so that was the my overrated was going to be just that is that it's overrated to be respectful of the lousy people who are not nice and then uh the other one is uh underrated is is not being respectful to the dead so i'm it's pretty enjoyable when someone shitty dies to say to use a little honesty
Starting point is 00:34:07 and and stop with the smoke and mirrors about respect and stuff because nobody's showing anybody fucking any respect right now especially the people who are telling you to show respect when they feel like that's someone that they this idea that liberals are like it's just completely out of control disrespecting everybody but like it's like always this preppy sort of like old money idea of what respect is it's like you can be fucking racist your whole life but then you still got to be nice when they die or some shit yeah well did i create jobs yes it's like some really it is that's really the the finish line for them i created jobs it's these things that like the tucker Tucker Carlson's of the world
Starting point is 00:34:45 and these people I grew up among in Connecticut, they have these like rules and they're all meant to control people. It's like, you have to be nice in this situation because it helps us to not get criticized. Yeah, that's all it is. It's just, it helps us to not to keep running this scam that there's this inherent, it's really connected to just the, like they feel like they're heroes because they fucking have money. I don't know how to, that's as simple as that really.
Starting point is 00:35:14 And they don't want to be criticized ever. So, especially when they die, it's a perfect time for them to be like, especially not now. Right. You can't criticize this ever, but especially now.
Starting point is 00:35:24 You see that so much in like weird fucking shit posts and Facebook posts of people who are like defending like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos. They're like, these people, you might hate them, but they are putting food on the table for millions. Right. So you want them to go away? Can you show me that on a piece of paper buddy yeah can you draw out how that how much money i'm getting from elon musk because it seems like it's the other way around jeff bezos the cause of and solution to all life's problems that's right uh i said the wrong blue origin blew up oh yeah on twitter see i'm digging in i'm digging in on
Starting point is 00:36:04 this oh man wanting bad people to die thing. He's already worried about how people are going to act when he died. That's why he's policing McQueen's death. Anybody who criticizes anyone who ever sold books
Starting point is 00:36:15 is a monster. And everyone knows that. That's always been true. That's always been true. If you start a website, you cannot be criticized. Oh, so you're anti-literacy. I see. Oh i get it i get it i get it should we talk about the queen's funeral real quick yeah so monday is the queen's funeral and you know there was a procession with coffin
Starting point is 00:36:39 and all on wednesday of this week so really it's pretty much like a week long affair, but yeah. It's like South By, but instead of concerts and movies, it's just a single queen funeral. What band is the queen if it's South By? Oh, man. I mean, the Rolling Stones.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Coldplay. Oh, South By is supposed to be small, though. Yeah, a little more indie. Spoon. That's a little more indie. Right. Fuck. Spoon. Sorry, I blurted it out. Yeah, Spoon.
Starting point is 00:37:08 That's a good one. Spoon is good. Spoon is like the original. Show some respect for Spoon. You can't criticize Spoon when they die. For Spoon Elizabeth. You kidding me? You have any job Spoon created?
Starting point is 00:37:19 Yeah. Anyways, it will feature the traditional closing of mcdonald's restaurants to allow everyone to pay their respects which is how i that was how i was initially like oh so this is like just this is a overt fuck you to the working class is like yeah you can't you can't even eat mcdonald's while we're paying our respects to the queen. Right. But all the foie gras parlors are open. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:52 But Caviar City will be open all night long. Yeah. That's like Party City. Caviar City? Same vibe as Party City, too. Yeah. Caviar City. And it's so sloppy to lose caviar all over the place. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:38:02 Because they're so wealthy. They don't give a fuck. I bought fake mustaches at Party City. You try buying a bunch of fake mustaches at Party City when you're 53-year-old white man, see how that goes. You get put on a watch list. Oh my god, the staff is like,
Starting point is 00:38:14 caviar city. It's been declared an extra bank holiday and that means that it would require people to be paid overtime, which is why everyone's closing down because they don't want to pay people. But it does mean schools and shops will be closed for what is the first state funeral since Churchill died in 65. And there's some details, some specifics that they're doing. Like they closed bike racks.
Starting point is 00:38:48 They put up notes saying, don't lock your bikes here across one of the cities to, like in honor of Queen Elizabeth. Everyone knows you don't lock your bike when someone just died. As the queen lies at rest. You think she wants to hear all that clicking? Was locking their bike? They threatened to remove bikes found on the rack during this time. What the fuck? But it's like nobody's working.
Starting point is 00:39:20 That's not someone's job. That is a piece of metal that you are just making people's lives harder by saying you can't lock your bike doesn't that feel like it's specifically anti-working class like pro it's just like a way to fuck over people with less money than yeah or i mean or if you're just like yeah in a town generally where you get around on bike, like it's just such a weird act of hostility that makes no sense. There's nothing. I guess maybe unless you're really trying to say like, dude, we're going to force you to respect the fucking queen because you can't even park your bike anywhere. Just fucking watch the BBC, man.
Starting point is 00:39:59 I'm fucking sob. Like, I don't know. Lose your bike. But I guess it's probably also. Have your bike stolen. It's probably just another way for people who have just some semblance of power to be like. The queen hated bikes. This is how we flexed our power to say we're sad about this. Do you think there's any way that she knew how to ride a bike?
Starting point is 00:40:20 Fuck no. No way. Ride side saddle? Like, she tries to ride a side saddle and just like keeps falling over. Or just being so confused because the pedal, it's not moving forward. It just keeps falling over. My word! It's not accelerating.
Starting point is 00:40:36 I bet she did learn to ride a bike and people at the time were like, this is unacceptable. She's like a true iconoclast learning to ride a bike like this. She'll tumble into a bee's nest. There were like meetings about it, presumably. Oh, she took a terrible tumble. A UK grocery store chain turned down the sound of its checkout beeps
Starting point is 00:40:59 out of respect. Like this shit all sounds... No, it did not. That's not true. Oh, come on. It is real. UK supermarket chain Morrison's turned down the sound of its checkout bleeps to... No one's allowed to eat.
Starting point is 00:41:15 No one can eat for 96 hours. I'll tell you who can eat. Buskers and street performers have been banned from the underground, from the Teague. Not for just like general banning, just because of the Queen again? Because of the Queen. You don't know what they're going to sing about, Chris. That's true. The Queen doesn't want to hear some bad singer while she's having to lay around.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Yeah. She's got a sleigh in a box. She doesn't want to hear some shitty music while she's in there. Busking is serious business in the UK. People make money like they interviewed somebody for this article and they were they were like yeah more than a quarter of my monthly income is gone because of this thanks the queen it's so shitty the aristocracy sucks so fucking bad they want money and respect and you can't have both i'm sorry
Starting point is 00:42:06 they're like these things called center parks it's like a european network of holiday villages and they announced they would close on monday and reopen tuesday but like people had planned their vacations there and they were just gonna kick them them out of the hotel complex, basically. Hey, get out. Yeah, you're not allowed to be here while we are doing whatever weird sacrifice we do in honor of the passing of the queen. But the big one is- But they backpedaled. Yeah, they had to backpedal because people were like, we're literally just going to be out shitting and- All right, then we'll cancel our reservations.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Oh, right. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Never mind, never mind, never mind. But several food banks will be closing that day. Did you say you were going to be out shitting on Alright, then we'll cancel our reservations. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Never mind. But several food banks will be closing that day. Did you say you were going to be out shitting on the road? Yeah, I don't know. What do you do? You mean if you can't get a vacation? No, if you can't. If you're on vacation in a place
Starting point is 00:42:56 and the place that you're trying to you're supposed to be staying is no longer open. What? You're mourning the queen? Take me to the road, honey. Take me to the road. I would recommend, and they call them the Haymarket Riots. I don't know what they would call a shit riot.
Starting point is 00:43:12 But yeah, that's what I think. I thought, yeah, okay. I'm sure most riots throughout history were shit riots, and they just kind of erased that. Yeah, people aren't asking where a bathroom is during a riot. That's one of the details that gets erased from history the massive amounts of no one wants to talk just everywhere i'm working on a doctorate about it there you go but yeah the big one several food banks will
Starting point is 00:43:33 close that day holy fuck what's the point of that yeah because the queen loved to take funds that were intended for poor people and use that for her own closing down the food banks for a corgi parade it really does like when you think about okay the food banks the the bike locks the bike racks like it it's stuff that seems like it would be very common sense so that you don't do that shit so it does seem like it is the aristocracy and the people the these royalists which is apparently a thing just being like yeah this is our day motherfuckers like right you you sit and respect us on our day you know yeah no 100 because it doesn't there's no there's no like logic to being like oh i don't don't know. Use my bike racks.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Yeah, right. They're like, you know, her and her bike racks. Just for one day, the bike racks will be at peace. It really, like you're saying, is like, oh, you don't give a fuck? Watch us make it unavoidable for you motherfuckers. Right. Like, you can talk all the shit you want. Like, oh, you don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:44:42 But guess what? I can stop the bike racks. I'll make the beeps go low. I'll fucking get rid of the shopping bags, the buskers want. Like, oh, you don't give a fuck. But guess what? I can stop the bike racks. I'll make the beeps go low. I'll fucking get rid of the shopping bags, the buskers. And also, guess what? You can't talk all the shit you want because I will be very mad. And I will arrest you. I'll tell you one thing, aristocracy.
Starting point is 00:44:57 You keep pushing. And we'll use Queen Elizabeth's rib cage as a goddamn bike rack. Hey, that's what I'm talking about. See what I'm saying? Yeah. Watch it. Then someone's going to go, what's this guy doing in here? Who the fuck is that?
Starting point is 00:45:15 I've gone too far? I've gone too far? This dude is, okay, we're mad about the bike racks, but we're not that mad. That doesn't help. We're trying to get the food pantries open, sir, but thank you for that comment. We're not going to go full Ed Gain. I'll use your food banks as a money bank.
Starting point is 00:45:31 You guys can cut that, by the way. No. I think you should cut rib cage and turn it into like ice cream, like really obviously. We'll use the Queen's ice cream as a bike rack. In a different voice. DJ Dan's voice just being like, ice cream. They are also, there's just, like, a lot of, first of all, the funeral is going to cost millions of pounds.
Starting point is 00:45:55 And they're also, like, canceling, they're canceling a bunch of people's doctor's appointments. Oh, my God. Yeah. Because the doctors love the fucking queen oh man yeah they're like oh fuck i'm not doing any doctoring today i gotta fucking get real i gotta meditate on all the great things the queen did for me hold on let's see i like how they're generally like man we don't give a fuck about anything if you're too if you're starving i don't know figure something out you got like chemo, we don't give a fuck about anything. If you're starving, I don't know. Figure something out.
Starting point is 00:46:25 You got, like, chemo? Yeah, chemo is being canceled. I don't know, dude. Reschedule that. Surgeries are being canceled. Yeah, it feels. And then, of course, like, as with all, you know, big televised spectacles, the unhoused community will be, like, forcibly removed by police. So.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Oh, cool. So. Oh, cool. So it's like the Olympics and everything, all those shitty things wrapped up in one. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, I don't know. Like, well, I'm really curious how, how inconvenient everyone really is.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Cause you see a lot of people are just like, I don't fucking get it. You know what I want? Like, I can only imagine how truly fucking like just maddening it is to be like well i can't go i can't go to my fucking doctor because someone without a last name no you bar a 96 year old with no last name died have you no couth no i i bet you drink tea at four o'clock or whatever. There's also, they've been arresting people just for saying things that are critical of. Oh, yeah, that one guy.
Starting point is 00:47:30 They roughed up and arrested someone who, what did he say? He said you're a sick old man, Andrew. Yeah, he said you're a sick old man to Andrew. Someone said, who elected him when something was happening with the new king? And they got arrested. That's like Monty Python shit. Yeah. I didn't vote for you.
Starting point is 00:47:50 It's wild, too. That was another moment where just like the one time they asked that woman in London if she was like a monarchist, whatever. Yeah. When there's like a video of them, the police asking that heckler, like, why would you do that? He's like, because he's a pedophile and he's like assaulting people and he can get away with it. And the crown was used to like obscure his crime. Like, yeah, you are all our pals with Jimmy Savile, who's like one of the biggest fucking rapists and recorded history. Right. I mean, there's not a lot to like about the royal family if you even think about it for five seconds i mean i i think
Starting point is 00:48:25 people are just fans of them the way they're fans of any it gives them a connection to power and wealth that they like you know it's like i stay in the queen and that means that she might venmo me some money or something right right like i think that's a lot of fandom now is like this just extreme association because you can't even get near wealth anymore because it's all concentrated at the top so standing feels like somehow like defending them feels like you're close to them and somehow they know that you're defending them yeah it's a weird psychological it's like the closest we come you know it's like uh yeah it's like uh um how do you say it like um when the kidnapper um you start to like the kidnapper yeah it's kind of like that you know it's like it's just this sort of
Starting point is 00:49:03 love of wealthy celebrities because that just feels like they of like that you know it's like it's just this sort of love of wealthy celebrities because that just feels like they might know that you love them and then you're their friend and maybe you can come over and use their infinity pool or whatever yeah right yeah while you suck eggs and read real life and they fucking shut down your bike rack yeah and guess what uh they just switched out their eggs with pieces of shit but then like stockholm syndrome you know everybody's like, of course they need to shut down the bike racks. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:29 The fuck are you talking about? Do you know anything about death at all? You think people want to fucking hear... Want to fucking ride a bike, you fuck? You think there's nothing more disrespectful than using a bike rack right near someone's death. You got to wait at least eight days. Wow. Do you not know anything about Western civilization? Yeah. And you have to have at least eight days wow do you not know anything about western
Starting point is 00:49:45 civilization yeah and you have to have at least eight corgis right one guy went to parliament square and held up a blank piece of paper as like this feels like it's like a psychological experiment on just like how much the city has lost it he held up a blank piece of paper and the officer officers came and asked for his details and he was like what if i wrote not my king on that blank piece of paper and they were like yeah we would have arrested you just just very strange that's i love how gentile they sound though what do you say after his details it sounds like that's not so bad. Yeah. Anyways. All right. Well, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about some potential strikes happening here in the U.S.
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Starting point is 00:55:08 He can leave it in if he'd like. Either way, there is a reason, though, you may not be experiencing a lot of Fanta in your local store because rail workers are ready to strike. What is it this time? Okay. Hold on, Jack. Let me just set the table for you here. Okay. So companies for years have prioritized maximum profits, which has led to understaffing and general negligence of the rail infrastructure.
Starting point is 00:55:35 For example. In America? Yes. What? A typical, like if you're like a train, if driving a train going from Chattanooga to Atlanta, it took about five to six hours in the 80s. Now it takes around 12 because, again, understaffing, negligence, the infrastructure is not great. And a lot of this, too, is now just work. It's just been more intense, more intense business on the rails because of the increased demand for goods from people just ordering shit more and more online and right now two large rail unions the international association of sheet metal
Starting point is 00:56:10 air rail and transportation workers transportation division smart td and the brotherhood of locomotive engineers and train men are ready to strike with up to like 140 000 plus people okay this would be the first mass railroad strike since the 1980s. I think it was since 1980 potentially. And these workers aren't really necessarily complaining about wages. What they're really, the biggest sticking point in these negotiations is that they're fighting to have just a decent quality of life because as it stands, when these workers have a day off, they're always on call and they have to constantly check in to see if they're going to get called in up until like midnight. And then they know like they'll have
Starting point is 00:56:49 the day off. Like it's very unpredictable. And like they never have any semblance of being able to like live their life. And because of this, even when they think they have days off means they're missing doctor's appointments. They're missing birthdays. They're missing the births of children. They can't bike. They can't park their bikes on the bike racks. This is how this is how out of control this shit. But this is all because, again, the rail companies or the railroads, they would rather run these workers ragged with 80 to 90 hour work weeks than actually just invest in hiring more people. And what sort of is now at stake here is that Congress, because of the railway labor act, it does a couple of things that helps the railroads. First is that the railway
Starting point is 00:57:31 labor act it's, it, it's basically doesn't cover these workers, uh, for federal overtime protection. The only thing that they get is like a guarantee of like 10 hours between shifts every 24 hours. So it's like, if you're working a tent, like 10 hours in between shifts, depending on how far you like live from your place of work or where you have to be, that might not even be enough to actually sleep and like do shit that you might have to just as a normal person who is
Starting point is 00:57:56 in the in-between times of not working. And second, the Railway Labor Act, because of it, Congress can step in and stop a strike and force workers to accept a contract unilaterally. And so what about the Senate parliamentarian, though? Can't that person step in? Well, it depends on who it benefits. Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Starting point is 00:58:16 I was just thinking like the Senate parliamentarian will not step in on this one. They're like, no, no, no, you can go ahead and do that. They're like, no, no, no, you can go ahead and do that. But right now, other unions have agreed to deals that have been sort of like the government was like trying to intervene to really stop this strike from happening because it would be a massive disruption, obviously, because the amount of shit we move. Just got a news thing from my phone. The Washington Post says Amtrak cancels all long distance trains beginning Thursday as rail systems brace for potential strike. Yeah. And I mean, by the time you hear this, it may be happening. All because, so right now, one of the deals that the government has intervened on and
Starting point is 00:58:51 put on the table, some unions have accepted this, was like a 24% wage increase over five years. But a lot of people point out with inflation where it's at, that's actually a pay cut. Yeah, you're not even keeping pace with inflation. So that's nothing. Assuming it keeps up at this pace. The other offer now is that they're trying to negotiate. They're like, well, we can get you guaranteed time off to go to the doctor.
Starting point is 00:59:14 And that's it. And that doesn't seem too attractive to the people that also want to be able to, again, have a life. All of these people like constantly these union members and workers all they're saying is i can't i can't fucking ever know when i have time to like see my kids or my grandkids i'm sorry do they think that when the queen died they became the queen of england because go to the doctor whenever you want get the fuck exactly here who do you think you are it's in bad taste to go to the doctor because you know know, someone died somewhere. But you hear people saying this is my living situation, my work situation.
Starting point is 00:59:50 You'd be like, that's fucked up. At a minimum, you got to have time to fucking spend, like, see your family, like live like someone whose life isn't all work. I've been reading about this and talking about it quite a bit because this is like someone smart i didn't think of this but they were like if you're like when they were talking about unionizing starbucks so they're talking about unionizing amazon warehouses or things like that and they're like oh that's gonna make our business that's gonna fuck up our business model that's because if you have a business that's built on violating labor laws then that's not a business yeah right and that's like that's why i'm so glad that unions are you know some it seems to of course this is like me just watching
Starting point is 01:00:33 the news and being like unions are making a comeback you know i don't know how much how significant it is but every time a starbucks gets unionized or i mean this is obvious stuff like yeah workers get abused without unions i mean it's it's it's as simple as that and and you know you got people peeing in bottles and not being able to go to doctor's appointments and it's all in the name of the executives of these companies the stat is i forget what the stat is exactly but it used to be the ceos of companies made whatever 20 times the income of their lowest paid worker or whatever. And now it's like 220,000 times.
Starting point is 01:01:07 It's not that high, but it's like something like it's 20,000 times as high. So it's not a mystery. And that's the thing is like there's this constant lie that the 1% or the wealth hoarders have that somehow this has always been the way it's been. And it hasn't been. It's been like since the early 90s when they started making full-time people temp workers and saying hey what are they going to do if we cut their pensions what are we going to do if we make them on call all the time you know oh nothing my brother pointed out the other he mentioned the fucking iraq war sending the fucking national guard and the national guard was not supposed to be deployed overseas they're
Starting point is 01:01:42 like what are they going to do about it it's just this gradual erosion of of like a social contract it's just like and and i'm so glad that these fucking people are in some way getting because they're just abusing workers just to pay their fucking dividends right yeah and you know this one of the guys who is quoted in this this american prospect article about like the impending strike, he talks about what it's been like just because of the pandemic. Quote, I don't know what happened during the pandemic that woke everybody up. And I'm talking about all of America. But yeah, they had a big effect. People are saying now there's something more to life than wasting it on the railroad or at my job. And that's true across the board. I think it's helped people
Starting point is 01:02:23 reestablish different priorities in their lives. And this is, again, countless people saying this strike needs to happen. Quote, this is not about money. This is about quality of life. This is about getting time off
Starting point is 01:02:35 with your family. And remembering that people don't know what trains are even for. They think trains are like some relic of the past. They don't know how they get their shit. Right. The pandemic and the supply chain stuff is just highlighted for americans who think
Starting point is 01:02:49 this shit comes out of the air that that if you don't fucking support your workers and your infrastructure you know i mean i i thinking about people at starbucks being like where's my mocha you know what i mean like and during the pandemic people were like they were like the poor workers are like we have no mocha here and And they're like, what do you mean? It's like, just fucking kick the wall. It's a mocha tree. Yeah, exactly. There must be mocha in here. It comes out of the ground or whatever.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Just pull the fucking lever. Yeah, it's like, a train? Right. What the fuck? Wait till you hear about all your other consumer electronics. A boat? Yeah, you fucking asshole. what they're like oh wait to hear about all your other consumer electronics yeah i mean it's a boat right yeah you fucking asshole but like you look again right like we're saying anybody with half a
Starting point is 01:03:33 heart and a human soul says yeah you need time to fucking be with your family otherwise you this what how how different is this from just like forced labor indentured servitude where you're like no your whole existence is actually built on you working for me not you having a life fuck out of here but you know because i think most people you haven't seen this talked about because i think the stakes are so clear like every time we talk about these these unions forming or disputes they're having with contracts you you'll always hear me like, yep, I side with them. If I hear about it, I'm never being like, these people are trying to bite off more than they can shoot. No, you're like, damn, they're getting violated like that.
Starting point is 01:04:15 They're trying to get the bare minimum. Exactly. And you look at places like Bloomberg, right? Their front page right now, it's actually been overtaken by the Amtrak closures. But earlier the, the main headline was quote, us rail strike risks, stoking inflation at worst possible time. Right? Like what? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:35 It's like locking your bike at the worst possible time. Yeah. It's this is what I did. Yeah. Call back, call back to me. Call it a callback. I hope you're taking notes.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Like then there are a couple other. I hope you're taking notes. Then there are a couple other articles underneath that. Not just freight. The rail strike may be coming for U.S. commuters. Another one. Crop car shipments set to halt on U.S. rail strike threat. White House weighs emergency decree to keep vital goods on rails if there is a strike. Not one fucking mention that these people are working 80 to 90 hour fucking weeks can barely see their families they're in like working unfathomable hours into
Starting point is 01:05:13 their 60s and beyond and are still you know we're like oh this couldn't come at a worse time you want to borrow the car you can't have a strike this close to an election. Right. Exactly. And that's why it's interesting. Now on Bloomberg, their friend says, opinion, Congress won't let a rail dispute cripple the U.S. Right. Which means they'll step in and fuck over the workers.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Which is pressure. You know, because the railroads know what it is. They can force congress's hand because they have the ability to be like all right well this is the contract i'm sorry that's it that's that right and they're counting on that rather than just you know taking the fucking millions of millions of dollars they make and just making a couple couple million less so these people can you know maybe work like fucking 70 hour work weeks. I don't know what the fuck. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:07 But yeah. And I think they know with this constant thing, because a lot of the rail, the railroads have told shipping companies, Hey, we can't take certain kinds of cargo because we've got to prepare for this strike. And that's already affecting the markets and they know,
Starting point is 01:06:20 Oh, see, they got election coming up. If I fucking hold the economy hostage as an employer let's see what happens oligarchs owning news outlets will be the death of of of us all i really believe that because because it's it's as simple as that now you know that guy bought cnn you know it's like this is not people still are trained to take these outlets seriously and as long as billionaires are allowed to buy like multiple outlets and
Starting point is 01:06:51 you know i mean the fair what do you call it the the old rules of media ownership right you know are essential i mean like this is the thing it's like what those headlines you're reading you know it's like that's all because billionaires own the goddamn newspaper i mean otherwise it would be i mean whatever the headline would be different right and also all the speculation i i just wrote my most recent advice king column but about one of those new york times op-ed writers who like not to mention all the sub stack motherfuckers these old white dudes who are like talking about you know do people understand the value of work and it's like fuck you motherfuckers like you know it's like the new york times was under different ownership would
Starting point is 01:07:36 not allow these people to speculate about this nonsense it's not a question of like whether people want to work it's a question of what's the quality of the fucking work it's not it's it's like you you give someone a job with absolutely i mean it's just it's a dishonest argument nobody doesn't want to work also it's a dishonest argument because you have to work in a capitalist society or you're on the fucking street all that's happening is everybody is like facing like well at the moment i don't really feel like having my life ruined so i guess i'll take money from mom or i'll move into mom's house i mean that's what's happening if anything but there's nobody who's like got the luxury of being like i don't think i want to work in america that doesn't exist so it's a false discussion it's just a matter of do
Starting point is 01:08:19 you want to fucking drive your own car to deliver sandwiches you know while you're paying off student loans and that's not a question of it's not yeah that's not a referendum on whether or not people like like the think work is noble or whatever it is that these fucking rich people think people sit around doing it's it's all it's all these like tools don't work anymore like shaming people into being like well nobody wants to work anymore and that's why i think there's like that whole pushback to quiet quitting too which is like they caught wind of the fact that people are like just setting boundaries in their own minds with how they like survive the toil of working and they're like whoa there's a way that you can get quiet fired
Starting point is 01:09:04 too like right you know what it doesn't matter like people don't give a fuck because like to And they're like, whoa, there's a way that you can get quiet fired, too. Right. You know what? It doesn't matter. Like, people don't give a fuck because, like, to Chris, your point, if right now it's just like it's this or be on the street. Right. So I'll make that work. Like, however fucking way I have to. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:19 I mean, it's just I've been alive for the whole thing. You know, I remember I remember when when people like to work, like people were working 40 hours a week and they were calling it temp work. You know, and I knew that something was wrong. You know, that was the early 90s. I didn't know that it would lead to absolutely stripping every benefit in the world. But I knew and we all knew and we're talking about back then, like, this is bullshit. Like, but realizing that we were powerless and that's the problem is there's no you know if there's no union and i think about show business
Starting point is 01:09:49 you know all these like people who want to be in show business at this point it's like do you even want to be an artist or you just want to be safe show business has strong unions the reason why people get paid in fucking show business is because of union healthcare there was no fucking union like no sag no whatever the fuck else there is um after if there was no after i'm i'm actually um what do you call it uh when you're sag eligible sag eligible sag eligible wendell berry no is it was it taft hartley yes that's it i'm ta Hartley. I'm Taft Hartley for life. Wendell Berry. Taft Hartley for life. I got that back. Yeah, Wendell Berry for life. I could never get that second gig.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Well, Chris, as always, truly a pleasure having you, man. Where can people find you, follow you, all that? I like the way you just cut me off like hardcore. Chris. Sorry, I didn't. I don't care. I don't care. I like it.
Starting point is 01:10:44 It was just the Zoom delay. I need it. i need it i need it i'm gonna keep talking about this stuff as soon after i turn off our fucking zoom by myself i'm gonna be like and that's why to a water ski there's a water ski in the corner i'm gonna say all this shit too you heard that right yeah right, you motherfucking water ski. I'm weeping. You're part of the problem. Fucking rich people water ski, you piece of shit. Oh, so you think the bike locks should be shut down too? I bet you wish you were water skiing right now, you piece of shit.
Starting point is 01:11:19 At a time like this. Queen Elizabeth's corgi died. Okay, I'm stopped. where can people find you follow you can find me at the crofton show on twitter you can find me at the crofton show on instagram and cold brew got me like is really we've got a pretty fucking decent audience and and we really are having some fun we started doing it in the morning because we were doing it in the afternoon. And it's really, it's that first coffee of the day, first cold brew of the day energy that, which is what I'm having right now. You know, I love it. You know, and me and Greg, and Greg was my brother who's on the show with me. We're basically doing like, we talk about current events, but it's really just a freewheeling.
Starting point is 01:12:02 We talk about whatever. This week we talked about Deep Purple like the band deep purple we talked about uh i don't know the week before we talked about john goddy finding out that uh you know how loud he yelled in the prison when he found out about fucking uh sammy the bull and like you know greg said he tore up his toilet paper in his cell like a cat when he found out about sam the Bull. So anyway, just weird shit. You know, it's weird shit mixed in with real shit. So anyway, I've just been digging that. So go find Cold Brew Got Me Like.
Starting point is 01:12:31 It's really, we've got some fucking listeners and it's a lot of fun. Hell yeah. Oh, and go see, go at the Crofton, what am I saying, at the Crofton Show. I'm fucking seriously cold brewed out right now. Go see at the Crofton Show. Go see at the Crofton show? I'm fucking seriously cold brewed out right now. Go see at the Crofton show. Go see at the Crofton show. Doesn't mean anything. I'm going to Nashville to do the Southern festival of books.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Doesn't mean anything. Go to the Crofton show right now. Anywhere. Just put in Crofton and anything. And then I died just right there. So I don't know. He fell down. He just disappeared from the screen.
Starting point is 01:13:10 So I'm going to be a featured author at the Southern Festival of Books, October 15th in Nashville, if you're going to be around. And I'm launching the audio book for The Advice King. And I think I'm going to have a publicist. So I'm going to try and make a big deal out of this audio book because I just think it's going to be a ton of fun to hear. Like I get real fired up when I read these columns out loud. Oh, you're a completely different, completely different quantity when you're on mic for sure.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Well, I'm having having a lot of fun. Always so fun to be here, you guys. I mean, I'm very grateful for Daily Zeitgeist and you guys and for you guys doing this, you know, day in and day out. I know means a ton to me and everybody else. We're lucky we just get to laugh and say shit about bike racks being locked up. It's great. It's great. Works out pretty well for us, too.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? You know, I always fuck this up. So this is no different i i think that my favorite tweet would probably be oh shit i like that one that i did about how oligarchs you know owning everything is gonna fuck us up that's a paraphrase uh you guys go first okay uh miles where can people find you what's a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me at miles of gray on Twitter and Instagram. Check Jack and I out on miles and Jack got bad, mad boosties.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Do you want to hear about basketball talk? Or if you want to hear me talk about 90 day fiance with Sophia Alexandra, check me out on four 20 day fiance. Let's see the things that I'm man. There's some, there's some good ones uh first one is from uh luisa at luisa the last uh tweeted and i this really resonated babysitting a four-year-old has convinced me that video games are what video games need is a little buddy mode where a kid can have a character that just kind of jogs along with you and can help slash get
Starting point is 01:15:03 their own encouraging score but cannot be harmed. That's a good idea. Yeah. Like, honestly. I remember when I was a kid, older cousins would be like, yeah, just hold this controller. Right.
Starting point is 01:15:13 And then you're not actually doing it. Shit was not plugged in. Yeah, yeah. But I was with it. You know what I mean? That's what we call little buddy mode in the fucking late 80s. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:23 That was like me cheating at Monopoly. That was so bad. My brother lost every game. But I was like, it's just, you're just not good at it. You heard, that was your little brother? Yeah, my little brother. I fucked him over. I cheated.
Starting point is 01:15:35 I just put my fucking, you know, my fucking little car or top hat or whatever on any space I wanted. And I was like, such is life, buddy. I'm sorry. You didn't get the right role that wasn't the right number oh yeah it was you just can't see right uh then another one is from m nate shamalan m nate shamalan tweeted ceo of 90s mcdonald's we need like 15 mascots for some reason marketing guy okay like what ceo Marketing guy. Kids, they don't kids hate clowns? CEO.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Another guy steals from our store. Marketing guy. Why would we CEO? A purple abomination. Just fucking disgusting. This guy. That's funny. I like that. That's great.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Oh, shit. Find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Matt Jones at Pillowfort tweeted, Trans-exclusionary and pro-monarchy. Call that surf and turf. And Julius Irvington tweeted, He got that French bulldog in him. Parentheses, asthma.
Starting point is 01:16:49 got that french bulldog in him parentheses asthma oh uh how about chris any any tweet you want i just found one i liked uh i'm just like looking right now uh but i it's i just i think america this is someone named aaron handlin is actually an american says i don't think fucking hell i don't oh i think americans significantly underestimate how much the ordinary british person hates americans oh yeah and i know that's accurate because i went to england one time and i did a personal study of that the old man oh there was i went into this fucking shoe store because it's back in the 90s i was trying to buy grunge boots and they had like old like military boots in there and i had like a fiodor's guide to london sticking into my front pocket and i didn't know and the fucking guy behind the counter wouldn't even fucking talk to me and he was like some old raf pilot kind of vibe you know what i mean he was just but his face was
Starting point is 01:17:41 like purple and i was like i just want some boots He made me talk to his nine-year-old daughter. Wow. And she sold me the boots. He wouldn't even fucking speak to me. Wow. So this is true. I mean, the... I had one experience in England, and I know everything about England.
Starting point is 01:17:56 I've been a few times, but the worst was by far during the Iraq War. I went in 2005, and I was like, I was telling people I was Japanese. I was like, no, bro I was Japanese I was like no bro I'm not fucking dealing They had a good reason at that time Yeah I mean just in general You don't really want to go around advertising You're in America
Starting point is 01:18:15 Yeah so fuck Queen Elizabeth The beef still stands I get the feeling the guy The owner of that shoe store would not be Thrilled He's not locking up his bike today no fucking way That motherfucker's like I get the feeling the owner of that shoe store would not be thrilled. Oh, my God. He's not locking up his bike today. No fucking way.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Yeah. That motherfucker's like, he hit his kid with a frying pan when they tried to lock up their bike. All right. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information we talked about in today's episode, as well as
Starting point is 01:18:49 a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? Oh, man. This track is from Stimulator Jones, who has great 90s R&B vibes to their production style. It feels very of that era and this track is
Starting point is 01:19:07 no different uh we've gone on out on a track before but this one's called vilified uh by stimulator jones so have a little 90s r&b nostalgia for your for your ears for your ears really miles on this the just a mere one week after the queen died i know i know you guys all right my bad you know what nah fuck it just go with it you know i was almost gonna say silence but no uh all right well the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows that's gonna do it for us this morning. Back this afternoon to tell you what is trending.
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