The Daily Zeitgeist - Biden Don’t Get It, Impeachment Fatigue? 11.22.19

Episode Date: November 22, 2019

In episode 522, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and co-host of Best Friends podcast Sasheer Zamata to discuss the new Pretzel Pop Tart, Fiona Hill telling the GOP to stop pushing Russian conspiracy theories, if people support the impeachment, the Democratic debates, how the new Democratic candidates are doing, Mark Zuckerberg meeting privately with Trump and Peter Thiel, Trump's mental health, conservatives getting upset over Chick-Fil-A folding to the damn liberals demands, a weird anti-meth ad out of South Dakota, the end of milk, and more!FOOTNOTES: Kellogg's Just Added 2 Sweet & Savory Pretzel Pop-Tarts Flavors Fiona Hill Gets to the Heart of How Destructive the Ukraine Scandal Continues To Be for Democracy White House’s Former Top Russia Expert Calls Out GOP’s Pushing of Ukraine Conspiracy Theories Tidying up with Fiona Hill The GOP defense of Trump is in slow-motion collapse. It’s about to get worse. Do Americans Support Impeaching Trump? WATCH: Kamala Harris rips Tulsi Gabbard's Fox News appearances Booker criticizes Biden's opposition to legalizing marijuana: 'I thought you might have been high' Joe Biden Says There's No Excuse for Domestic Violence, Except Self-Defense Former New York mayor Mike Bloomberg files papers to join Democratic race for president Deval Patrick would like to be president. Only two people showed up to his event at Morehouse. Trump hosted Zuckerberg for undisclosed dinner at the White House in October TRUMP REGULARLY 'CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT HE'S SAID OR BEEN TOLD,' WHITE HOUSE INSIDER SAYS Chick-Fil-A, Last Bastion Of Christian Values, Falls To Gay Agenda, America Over WATCH: Meth. We’re on it. South Dakota Meth Prevention 2019 (Short - A) South Dakota's 'Meth. We're on it.' campaign is funny but state officials say the meth problem is deadly serious ‘Meth. We’re on it.’ South Dakota spent $1.4M on these bizarre ads South Dakota ads group criticizes 'Meth. We're On It' campaign South Dakota Pulls ‘Don’t Jerk and Drive’ Ad Campaign How Dean Foods' bankruptcy is a 'warning sign' to the milk industry WATCH: Onra - Tea Vender On the Street Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 109, Episode 5 of Der Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially, off the top, fuck the Koch brothers and fuck Fox News. It's Friday, November 22nd, 2019, the season finale. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack O'Brien's a podcast host. Such a good little hoster. Every day that he hosts the Zite, I feel a little bit closer to Jack O'Brien. That's courtesy of Percy Yamaguchi-Maine, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.

Cut my term into pieces. This is my last extort. Escapation. Lings of treason. Don't give a fuck if they go on impeaching. Would it be wrong? Would it be right? If I bribe Zelinsky tonight?

Wow. I mean, I could go on with the other. Whoever wrote this went off. And whoever wrote that is Brian Day at TheBrianDay. Thank you for another paparoach inspired me, K. That was beautiful. Your vocal performance was on point, fam.

It's, uh, you know, I've, oof. It's just fun to sing, like, really affected white people. That and the emo, like, emo punk emo song is another fake voice I really love to do. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented comedian

and performer, Sashir Zameda. Hi. What's up? What's up? How are you? I'm good. Welcome. I'm awake with that scream singing.

We really, exactly. We wanted to make sure. Thank you for coming through. Thanks for having me. It's a first time guest. Yes. And you're newly moved to Los Angeles. You were telling me a little bit earlier.

Yeah. I have been here for a year. Came from New York. Are you're newly moved to Los Angeles. You were telling me a little bit earlier. Yeah. I've been here for a year. Came from New York. Are you from New York originally? No, I was there for nine years, but I'm from Indianapolis, Indiana. But also kind of all over because my dad was in the military. Got it. Where else?

I was born in Okinawa, Japan. Hey. I'm not Japanese. Oh, very cool. Yeah. When I was younger, I would tell kids I was born in Japan, they'd be like, oh, I can see it. And I was like, oh, no, both my parents are black.

Yeah, right, right, right. I just happened to physically be there. Me being black in these, people always think I'm Filipino. Right. Yeah, you're Filipino, right? I'm like, does it get me something free at this carnival? I'll take the perks. Yeah.

So, oh, yeah. Japan. And then Lexington, Kentucky San Antonio, Texas Riverside, California Hampton, Virginia And then I was in Indiana

From like Fifth grade to High school To the end of high school Okay so your true Formative years Yeah Okay got it

My family moved around a lot And we did Lexington And my parents did Indianapolis after I was out of the house. Are they still there? No, they're in Philadelphia. They're back home. Yeah, Indianapolis is nice. I didn't love it when I was there

because no one loves where they grow up. Now that I go back as an adult I'm like, oh, they got cool bars and restaurants. Making a nice like actual sitting. What's Indianapolis? What's like a food that you will only get in Indianapolis? Not that you can only get it there,

but there's something about getting it there that is special to you. There's that shrimp cocktail that's good. Oh, I didn't know this. There's like some steak place that has a shrimp cocktail with – it's basically that the um cocktail sauce is almost it's like 90 horseradish and it just like fucks you up real bad but it's pretty good i forget the name of the place saint elmo steakhouse yes okay saint elmo google auto corrected our auto photos at indianapolis shrimp cocktail place yeah okay what about you uh i likese? I like Skyline Chili. Hey, okay.

Yeah, it's really good and tasty. What do you have, a Coney, three-way, four-way? Coney. Yeah.

I still haven't really had the spaghetti version. I just eat the Coney's. I do like the spaghetti version too, but I mean, honestly, all of it's good.

Yeah, right. Chili's chili at the end. Yeah. But yeah, that's a nice Indianapolis memory for me. I always like asking about food because I'm always hungry. Love food.

You just have to know. Especially regional things. Yeah, well, yesterday I almost blacked out from not eating all day. But that's on me. That last recording was, I don't remember a single thing we said. We recorded at like 4.30 and hadn't eaten lunch because we were all over the place. I've only fainted a couple times and it has been because of not eating. Lack of calories.

Yeah. That happened to me at a concert, but I didn't eat all day. I didn't drink all day. And then I smoked a whole backwoods blunt to my head in front of a base, like a subwoofer. Oh no. And then my eyes rolled back and my homie caught me and then I was like, I think we're going to go. That happened to me

like a couple years ago I was at a concert. It was a festival same thing I didn't I maybe had half a sandwich that morning a lot of rosé and then took an edible stood in the direct sunlight and then just and you know how like on those old school

TVs when you turn off the TV and the picture goes yeah it's really small. It was like that. I was like, I can't see anything anymore. And then I was on the ground. You're like, are my sunglasses getting small? All right, so Cher, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners just a couple of the things we're talking about today.

Big Pop-Tart news. So we're going to check in with that. We're going to tell our listeners just a couple of the things we're talking about today. Big Pop-Tart news. So we're going to check in with that. We're going to check in with the impeachment inquiry. We are going to talk about the debate, Democratic debate that happened last night. We're going to talk about how Bloomberg and Deval Patrick are holding up. We haven't heard much about their campaigns since they entered. We're going to talk about the president's cognitive decline, conservative tears over Chick-fil-A, all of that and plenty more.

But first this year, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Okay, well, the last thing i googled was how old is denzel washington okay because my friend sent me a picture of him and was like doesn't he look so bad i was like actually i think he looks really good for however old he is but i couldn't remember i was like i don't know how old he is and i looked it up and i was like 65 yeah he looks yeah he looks great 65 yeah what was the photo that they showed you that? I think he was at a party or something. So he had a hat on, a t-shirt.

He looks more casual than usual, but I was like, that's not enough to be like, he looks bad. He still got that smile. Right. He still had the smile. I think he actively, he thinks it's fun to look ugly, is my sense. What do you mean? He's been attractive for so long. Yeah, he's been attractive that it it's a fun change for him.

I saw him at a boxing match before the fight. They'll show celebrities in the audience. And he had a mustache and a hat on. I think it was a sweatsuit, just sweats. And he was at this big event. And I think it was just... He looked like shit, like for a normal person,

but he looked great. Cause it's Denzel Washington. That's when I first began my theory that. Oh yeah. Yeah. That still looks amazing. Right. He still looks great.

The sweatsuit looks like designer. Super producer Ana Jose just showed up. Clutching it to her chest. I think he looks fine. Yeah. It's funny. My high school, we used to play his son

in high school basketball and when he would come to our gym, he would, I mean, I guess it was dressing down for Denzel which just basically meant

a Yankee hat and like a sweatsuit but even then, I mean, there were times when I was like, man, it looks extra baggy.

Maybe the stylist didn't pick that out but at the end of the day, everybody was like, it's Denzel. Right. He's there. Is this the son who's an actor now? the day, everybody was like, just Denzel. Right. He's there. Is this the son who's an actor now?

John David, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, cool. Yeah. He went to Harvard Westlake. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated?

I mean, maybe some people disagree, but I think thrift shopping. Oh, okay. Yeah. Is underrated. It feels like in some cities it's overrated because in Brooklyn or Los Angeles it's very hard to get good stuff. That isn't homespun? Yeah.

I think everyone should be recycling clothes because clothing is one of the biggest things we have in landfills. It's one of the biggest trash producing things we have. And also most of my stuff is thrift.

And it's like, I get every part of the process is fulfilling to me. Like the finding the thing, the wearing the thing, and then people being like, oh my God, where's that thing from? And I'm like, you can't, exactly. I got it from the floor and you can't get it. Like there's no way you can get this item

because I found the one that was in that store in some town that we don't live in. Your sweater looks extra comfortable. It's basically a blanket. It's really nice. They don't make clothes like that anymore. Same thing. The quality of clothing is also different. It's way

better in the past. Now everything's flimsy and falls apart really easily and you have to buy more shit because that's how they want you to be addicted to clothing. My partner, Her Majesty, she is very into vintage clothing. She found some Etsy store like in Lithuania and is getting like styles from the communist times that are like litty vintage pieces that are like really cheap. And she's like, I've already seen everything in like America.

Now I'm going to go to Eastern Europe and it's like thrift through Etsy. Right. And I was surprised that like, it's always interesting to see like, because you'll see fashion trends that are here in like the US and then how that sort of gets translated

in other countries and then their takes on it. Well, like in Eastern Black nations too, it was like they could have like had their own, they were cut off from like Western culture. So they could have had their own like branch of, you know, design that was going on that like evolved independently of ours. I feel like a big, chunky sweater like you have, those should be about vintage because the last sweater I bought new, that was trying to feel like a big, chunky blanket sweater.

It's like, yeah, it's just replicating what's already in existence somewhere else. Right. And it only looks the part. Like you're saying, the quality part, very different. That's why a lot of people like vintage furniture, too, because we're in this like Ikea age and just go to wherever where it's like, you know, there's no craftsmanship. Yeah. It's like being an archivist. It's like a skill that you have to have.

I admire that. Is there anything you won't buy used, aside from undergarments? Yeah, not undergarments. Right. I thought shoes, but these are vintage shoes, so I got rid of that idea. Maybe not. Not bad, yeah. Good to know. Your shoes got rid of that idea. Hmm.

Maybe not. Maybe not. Yeah. Good to know. Your shoes are fully made of wood. That's pretty cool. Vintage. They were George Washington shoes.

They're actually George Washington's teeth. They're repurposed. Dentures. Yeah. You don't want to repurpose those. I've found. They just start to. I've found. I've found they just start to I've found

I've found that those get a little yeah sound like Biden a little bit yeah yeah wow what is something

you think is overrated ice ice people want immigration and customs enforcement no no no no like

frozen water frozen water yeah people put it in everything and just assume that everyone wants ice No, no, no, no. Frozen water. Frozen water. Yeah, people put it in everything. And just assume that everyone wants ice. Yeah. And I never want ice because I have sensitive teeth. And it's, like, not good for your digestion.

Like, room temperature water is better for, like, your body. Huh. And then sometimes I'll go places and they'll put like ice and orange juice or like weird shit. Oh, wow. Like for breakfast? Yeah. Why? Like in the South, they're just like, not everywhere, but it has happened where I'm like,

I asked for orange juice and they put it down and I was like, why is there ice in here? That's not a thing I wanted. I didn't ask for that. It's already cold. Most beverages are already cold. Stop giving me ice. Yeah. Well, I always look out for ice when they try and cheat me.

And I talk about this a lot. Don't cheat me out of my volume. Mostly ice. Yeah, I don't need that full. Miles brings his own ice with him. No, what I do is I'll be like, give me my 20-ounce cup of my lemonade and give me a cup of ice. Because- That's so much.

Well, I'm trying to get my money's worth. Really. Because you go to lemonade, that's just like fucking seven bucks for know I'm trying to get my money's worth really because you go to lemonade that's just like fucking seven bucks for a cup of lemonade so I'm like don't fuck around

give me a splash I already look a little you know stupid trying to buy like really getting angry about my lavender lemonade infused whatever

but at the same when I see them fill the whole thing up I'm like you could have put three drops in there and it looks full and I'm not here for that I need my money's worth

do you like is there ice that you like because you know people they talk about good ice you know where they say like crushed ice or things like that or because you're

sensitive teeth no ice ice cream no really I know and it's like a really contentious issue like a lot of people

get mad at me scalding cream yes I love that hot cream just a sweet chowder sweet vanilla chowder for me yeah issue. Like a lot of people get mad at me. Scalding cream? Yes. I love that hot cream. Just a sweet chowder. Sweet vanilla chowder for me. That's underrated. I mean, where's

the hot cream? Nobody ever made that. I think that'd be like oatmeal. Yeah, I guess it would be oatmeal. Oatmeal with a lot of cream. What about for desserts then? Like a cake, a room temperature cake, a donut pie. Pies, cookies. Yeah, those about for desserts then? Yeah. Like a cake, a room temperature cake? Pies, cookies.

Yeah. Yeah, those room temperature desserts. But no ice cream for me. Okay. Wow. Yeah. It's just too cold. Yeah.

What's a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Okay. I don't think a lot of people know this, but when female hysteria was a thing, there's um when like female hysteria was a thing the there's a thought process that male doctors would cure hysteria by massaging the clit right that's like the invention of vibrators but that is actually a myth oh shit they they like the idea was that vibrators were invented to calm women down right but. But doctors were just like, they didn't think,

I'm giving her an orgasm. They're like, I'm just calming her the fuck down because she's crazy. Curing her hysteria. Right. But that was like,

it written up in like one journal and no one, everyone was like, that must be it and no one refuted it. No one ever like did other research

and then finally people were like, actually, there's no evidence of that at all. There's no doctors who reported this at all. It's just not true. Wait, about the invention of the vibrator? That was the reason the vibrator was invented. And that's how medical professionals were curing, quote unquote, hysteria.

Got it. Right, because the vibrator was invented to- It was invented. To cure weak dick. No, that's right. Cure that weak ass dick. Cure that weak dick. For trash dick, I believe,

was what the cause was. I'm going to prescribe you a vibrator. You can see the old timey ads that are like- Suffering from weak dick. Suffering from weak dick, ladies. Give her a vibrator. Yeah. And she'll never know.

Yeah. Ah, that's- Man, so much- What do they say? Someone coming like, this woman's gone clit crazy. Give her a vibrator. Yeah. And she'll never know. Yeah. Nah. That's, man. What do they say? Someone coming like, this one was going click crazy. I feel like most of what we know about history is what you just described, where it's like one place wrote that because they were like, probably. Yeah. And then the whole Ich bin ein Berliner thing, JFK, that's like from a spy novel.

Wow. And then like the novel came out in the 80s and then like everybody just started quoting it as a true story. That he had said the wrong thing. Wasn't there a thing about how he said he was a pastry? That everybody thought he was saying I am a donut. Right, right, right. It's just like, it's not true. Nobody thought that shit.

I mean, that's the beauty of the pre-internet age. Right. It's like you could have just changed. Like, the course of history could have been changed from a few misunderstandings or someone just being overly confident about something. But, okay, well, they said it's true. Right. No way to fact check.

You're like, I honestly have no other way to. Someone said. Sounds true. Yeah. Napoleon being short. It's all just rumors people started because it seemed like a thing a smart person would say. Or like you and your sweating. Just a rumor.

Yeah. Totally. Self-created myth. Yeah. People are thinking, I don't know what to do with my hands. In photos? Oh, my God. In photos or just in life.

Yeah, leave them alone. All right. Let's talk about Pop-Tarts, you guys. It's a new day. Let's talk about a room temperature dessert that is occasionally served hot. First of all, when you eat Pop-Tarts, did you toast them or did you eat them straight out of the sleeve? I would eat them straight out of the sleeve just because I generally, when I was eating

Pop-Tarts- On the go? Was on the go. Yeah. I would do both. Hey, Ma, throw me some Pop-Tarts. Toss them as I was walking out. You're the commercial.

You have a Sunny D in one hand. And then you hop on your skateboard like, and somehow the interior of your house was all like fluorescent colors. Yeah, I think I did both. You know what it was? When I would, all it would take is a burnt part of the Pop-Tart

and I would get so mad at myself for not watching it because my toaster was too strong, I guess, as um but i digress the reason we're talking about this is there is a new pop tart in town pop tart pretzel yeah it's a pretzel basically crust outside it's a pretzel it's a pop tart it's do we need to say anything else yeah i mean i thought i love pretzels with sweet shit. Yes. I'm a huge- Salty and sweet person? Yeah.

Yes. There's cinnamon, sugar, and chocolate. Do you have a preference between the two? Cinnamon sugar was one of my favorite Pop-Tarts growing up. Oh, really? The frosted cinnamon sugar one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, because that one just had the brown smattering of glaze on top, right?

I like the strawberry one. Yeah, strawberry. Frosted strawberry and that were my two favorite. Wow, you're like calling out the fucking name from the box.

I'm like the strawberry and you're like frosted strawberry. That's the one that had the white frosting and then the little colored sprinkles. Yeah, like birthday cake

colored sprinkles. Yeah, that was the good shit, man. Fucking Pop-Tart historian. I was over here just being like, we need to talk about something food related and then you're like, no, frosted strawberry. I see that you. Fucking Pop-Tart historian. I was over here just being like, we need to talk about something food related. And then you're like, no, frosted?

I see that you've brought Pop-Tarts to today's episode. Yeah. What about you, Shashir? I mean, that's a big difference. Frosted between frosted strawberry and non-frosted strawberry. Well, non-frosted. Don't give me the non-frosted shit. That's punishment.

That's violence. Where it's just like plain on the top? Yeah, without frosting. What do you like? Between cinnamon, sugar, or chocolate? I would try the chocolate. There's already snacks that are like chocolate-covered pretzels, and I like that. Yeah.

And it's soft, too, I'm sure. I'm just waiting for that commercial, inevitably, like all food Instagram pages where they break it in half and slowly just show you the inside. Yeah. Gooey stuff. If I was to do an underrated or overrated, just so I can say something really quick, that's the thing on Instagram food fucking pages.

Food Instagram? It's the opening of a burger or a sandwich or a burrito or anything gooey where it's like, look at that. I'm like, just, the picture's fine. I get it. Did you ever eat ramen noodles? Mm-hmm.

Did you ever eat them raw? Yeah,hmm. Did you ever eat them raw? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like crush them up? Crush them up, yeah. Maybe that's a California thing. No, I don't know. I don't know, maybe. I feel like I learned that when I was here.

Or you have no hot water thing. Yes, yeah. Yeah, we had to save water. I need to eat this or whatever. It's like, fuck it. Yeah, just crush it up, put the flavor in there, shake it up, and then eat it like chips. Well, and then also in Japan, there's a snack that is basically like dried ramen noodles that are like already seasoned.

You just like bite it? Like it's a just... It's not like a brick. It almost comes broken up like little tendrils of like curly ramen noodles that are just seasoned. And it had like a really, like a, I forget, like an animated kid in a monk outfit or something. No, it was like a Chinese outfit. I remember.

I'm trying to think. I'm trying to visualize the package for people if they're at a Japanese market and want to try it out. Yeah. But yeah, I have had that. But also, you know, I like just to put the water on it too. Oh, for sure. A little lemon. If you got three minutes.

Yeah. A little lemon. Oh, you want to turn up a cup of noodles or some ramen noodles? Hack. Some lemon. Ramen hacks. That's how my mom used to do it. She'd be like, I can't eat it like this.

Do you like it? You ever fuck with it al dente? Like do it a little? No. No? That sounds a little off to me. Al dente? Like how al dente we're talking?

Not like super al dente, but just like a little bit. So it's not like super. Suck. I don't think I've ever paid that much attention though to be to be like, ooh, before it gets too sour, I want my ramen noodles out. I need my 30-cent package of ramen to be a 10-cent package to be al dente. I kind of like it that way. Okay. Good to know.

We'll have a buffet with no ice and al dente ramen noodles. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. the rebels into something everyone in the south loves the biscuits i was a lady rebel like what does that even mean i mean the boone county rebels will stay the boone county rebels with the image it's right here in black and white and prints a lion an individual that came to the school saying that god sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch is a leader you choose hills that you want to die on why would we want to be the losing team?

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It didn't end with Gordon Sondland uh the impeachment inquiry is back yeah thank you thank you dan yeah it was i guess he was supposed to be sort of the climactic dude sonland sonland i mean he was at the nexus of so many people's testimony so it made sense let's drag this person up and clarify things he did uh although trump tried to claim it as a great day for the republicans somehow i don't know because they're living in a parallel universe um and yeah fiona hill uh came to make it even hotter to turn up the heat even more i mean we'll talk a little bit more after this clip but um she came out basically warning everybody that some of the people uh in this committee are peddling russian propaganda or takes that are being put forward by the russians and that's exactly what they want

and you know when you have an english accent yeah americans are stupid i'm sure everybody was very authoritative i don't know what it was. Very regal. Yeah, she just seemed to know what she was talking about. So, yeah, this was her kind of part of her opening statement, which was a very, very good point to raise because so many Republicans in this committee have been like, well, you know, like Ukraine has been meddling in the elections and like they could be an enemy. It's like, no, they're an ally. We're trying to help them. And this was part of her opening statement.

In the course of this investigation, I would ask that you please not promote politically driven falsehoods that so clearly advance Russian interests. As Republicans and Democrats have agreed for decades, Ukraine is a valued partner of the United States, and it plays an important role in our national security. And as I told the committee last month, I refuse to be part of an effort to legitimize an alternate narrative that the Ukrainian government is a

U.S. adversary and that Ukraine, not Russia, attacked us in 2016. These fictions are harmful even if they're deployed for purely domestic political purposes. President Putin and the Russian security services operate like a super PAC. They deploy millions of dollars to weaponize our own political opposition research and false narratives. When we are consumed by partisan rancor, we cannot combat these external forces as they seek to divide us against each other, degrade our institutions, and destroy the faith of the American people in our democracy. Yeah, that was the beginning and then went on to be a very very just you know credible witness again i just i'm starting to get tired of the impeachment hearings i'm going to be honest because it's so clear like what has

happened and i understand the democrats are really trying to make it as painfully obvious as possible. But I'm feeling like we're in that painfully obvious part. I don't know how many people we're going to sway anymore at this point because you're either, if you were an independent and you saw the course of these public hearings, you'd be like, ooh, okay, I'm still a reasonable person. You'd think so.

Or if you're on the right, you're just going to be like, nah, this is bullshit. This is bullshit. This is bullshit. None of this is real. And again, then Dave Holmes, who is the person working under Bill Taylor, who heard that call where the president was asking Gordon Sondland to do these investigations. He confirmed that, yes, indeed, the loud ass call happened. But I think one thing that we're seeing, which is completely undeniable at this point, is that based on all this testimony,

there was a week in between when President Trump decided to freeze hundreds of millions of dollars in aid to Ukraine and a phone call where he demanded to know from Sondland whether they were going to investigate Joe Biden. Like the intent and everything, it's really all there. call where he demanded to know from Sondland whether they were going to investigate Joe Biden. Like the intent and everything, it's really all there. But I guess to this day, the Republicans or what's always evolving, but the Republican defense is now, well, y'all don't have a witness that can say Trump literally told somebody to do a quid pro quo scheme, despite all of this other, all these other fact witnesses and people who are around it saying this smells like a terrible corrupt scheme and the intent was there for a corrupt scheme uh so i don't know what else yeah he kept he kept telling people go talk to rudy and uh michael cohen and

his testimony about like you know what he knew about how trump operated uh last year i guess yeah he was saying that he always will have somebody who does the dirt for him and he'll never say it himself. He'll just be like, go talk to that person. So we know this is how he operates. We're not going to get a smoking gun where he's like, do the... I mean, unless Giuliani is in trouble and he shows himself to be rat man. Right. That's the only way it's going to... Yeah. But at this point, I mean, unless Giuliani is in trouble and he shows himself to be rat man. Right.

That's the only way it's going to. Yeah. But at this point, I mean, either way, I don't even know if even if Rudy said it, his supporters would be like, well, Rudy was a rogue agent. And I don't even believe what he says. Because in a way, Rudy isn't even very credible himself. Oh, yeah. Just because the way he just constantly twists and turns. But I don't know.

I mean, I guess at this point, Nancy Pelosi said that they're still considering bringing more witnesses up. Fine. But, you know, through Fiona Hill's testimony, I mean, she even said that, you know, John Bolton was directly pleading with the president

to release the aid. So, you know, he might have something to say, but it seems like they're not going to wait. And they're not really interested in waiting. It's just like a blur at this point. It's like we've known the truth for so long. I also feel like it's underrated that we have the transcript of the call where he asks the Ukrainian president to do the thing. But I don't know if it's underrated.

It's just all fact. It's obvious. It's like we're trying to argue that we breathe oxygen right and like i don't know i've i've i actually you know breathe two oxygen molecules that are binded together right uh wait i guess that's oxygen right i mean i don't know i it's it just feels painful at this point because there's nothing the nothing, none of the questions that are being asked by Republicans are showing anything other than this corrupt scheme happened. They were trying to extort the Ukrainians, bribe them, could pro quo them, whatever terminology you want to use. It's just settled at this point.

Why was, I saw that Jay Leno was trending. Because he was mentioned he was mentioned the amount of people asap rocky kim kardashian these are people who will be part of the historical transcripts of these hearings so crazy yeah i don't know what what the jay leno was the asap rocky thing was because at the time with him in sweden yeah it overlapped yeah yeah yeah so they were saying like i remember they said something about A$AP Rocky. I don't remember what it was. Maybe that peso was a great song.

But you know, whatever that thing is. And he was named after Rakim. Not many people know that. Yeah. The rapper. But yeah, it's spanning all kinds of our consciousness as Americans. But I don't know.

I don't know if that's affecting polling or whatever and if that's going to change anything. I don't think it is. I don't know. FiveThirtyEight has their people who support impeachment versus oppose it, and it just keeps going in the direction. More people support impeachment than oppose it, and that's been the case since the transcript came out.

But it's been the case since the transcript came out but it's been getting closer and closer together and to the point that as we record this it's like 0.1 it's like one-tenth of a percent apart so it's basically between what between uh supporting impeachment and approving impeachment or supporting impeachment and opposing impeachment oh so the wait wait, but the disparity was a lot wider then. Yeah. For support. So you're saying support for impeachment is going down. Support is going down.

So as more evidence comes out that he clearly did this shit, support among Americans, according to these polls, seems to be going in the direction of, yeah, let's leave let's let them off i don't know or i think it's just fatigue like i'm fucking fatigued i'm tired of it actually because i like yeah great they'll fucking do something let's beat them get to the part where the republicans completely debase themselves and completely throw their oath into the trash and act like this shit just isn't right in front of them right like. Like, cause I already know that's what's going to happen. I don't,

I don't think again, even with this straight up truth in front of them, they're still being like, well, you don't have somebody saying literally quid pro quo, do the quid pro quo. And yet they still just, you know,

they're, they're also using that thing where, because Trump said yes, or the day before when he read his big Sharpie memo pad where he said, I want nothing. I want nothing. No quid pro quo. Tell Zelensky to do that.

They're saying, well, that's what he said. But despite everyone around it saying, no, that's not what happened. I'm the person who like mechanically is part of that operation saying that is not what happened. They still. That's why I guess. Yeah, I think my frustration is just like, just get on with it, bro. Like I'm actually, I get it.

Like you don't have to convince me anymore. I mean, it was nice to see all these other witnesses come out that fully just make it airtight, but I don't know what else can be done at this point. Yeah, unless Giuliani's coming through with like, this is what he said to me. Yeah, and who knows knows that might be on his podcast right that's right so uh which we will be producing with rudy so uh give us a call for that

yeah coming next week join iheart trump's approval is even going in the right direction i don't fucking understand it i don't get it i mean he's still 12 points underwater. He's 41% of people approve of him versus 53% disapprove. But 41% is a lot of people. That's too many. Well, I think, but either way, it's just because it's, I think it's about fatigue, right? You hear the same shit over and over like, okay, like, so? That's almost what it, I'm like that. I'm on the left and I'm like, what are you gonna do yeah and then just let's get let's get to the

next phase i'm we're i think we're i don't know just in terms of what we've seen i think it's starting to become very circuitous to a point and not redundant because there's new information coming out but it's almost like yeah we're we we're belaboring this for too much time. But I also think there's that Fox News firewall, man, that Fox News is not letting any of this shit register. Every single fact that comes through, they just... It's basically, it's an agreement between the Republicans and Fox News that the Republicans will put out like a Russian conspiracy theory for Fox News to then pair it so that like we hear the person say it we see the witness be taken aback and it's just like that's all Fox News will show yeah and yeah

I don't know like that's what I'm saying it doesn't like our, like this type of, like a combative democracy doesn't work with Fox News in the equation. Like it just can't work. Well, I just feel like at this point, the tactics, if the numbers are starting to shift, despite all this evidence, it just means you're trying to fight an enemy with tactics that are just ineffective. Right. And I don't know. That's why I'm like, I'm more curious to see what this next phase is, because I think we've reached peak. See, he did do that. So now let's see the Republicans really try and act like, well, this is all blah, blah, blah. And they will. Yeah. But I think that'll be important for people going to these elections and make that a point of like, I don't know, somehow this person looked at all this stuff and still couldn't come to this conclusion. Like, I don't know, somehow this person looked at all this stuff and still couldn't come to this conclusion.

I mean, Justin Amash, who's a former Republican in Michigan, he's just like, I don't even understand what's wrong with them at this point. Like, I used to be Republican, but like, I don't know what the fuck this is now. Yeah. On the front page of Fox News, though, they're talking about a Democrat who defected and is like, I don't know what's wrong with the Democrats. I have to become a Republican. So it's just... Who is that? It's like some local state senator. Yeah, okay.

Not like a full senator, like a state government senator. Yeah, state legislature. Yeah, well, I mean, maybe he has a tough re-election campaign. He's like, fuck it, man. Just give me that red hat real quick. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to stay in offense. That's essentially what it is.

It'll help my tire business. All right. There was also a Democratic debate last night, yeah. I'm going to stay in offense. That's essentially what it is. It'll help my tire business. All right. There was also a Democratic debate last night, apparently. Did you guys watch it? Yeah, the day before. I didn't. Me neither. This was the lowest rated of the debates.

I think it's fatigue again. Yeah, debate fatigue. Too many motherfuckers up there that I'm not going to vote for. Yeah. I'm like, okay, fine. I mean, look, a lot of people had some nice moments. Like, almost every person did, except for Tulsi Gabbard. She didn't.

Yo, she. Didn't she go after Pete Buttigieg for, like, saying, like, just took something out of context and was like, yo, you said to invade Mexico? Yeah. And he was like. No, it was so confusing. Mexico yeah he was like no it was it was so confusing she really looks like a wind-up doll right it's like like a speak and say for like Russian talking points yeah I mean I don't know if she's a plant or whatever but like it seems like her goal is to basically be like you know

the Democratic Party's so fucked up honestly if you're like an independent I'm gonna be a Democrat saying this party's so fucked up and that might dissuade you from even looking at this party because I'm gonna keep saying how fucked up this thing is. Yeah. And then pivot to, but I'm going to make it better. But part of her whole thing has been like, this party isn't doing shit for anybody. This party like and that has an effect, obviously, to someone who might be on the fence. But, you know, that and her caping for Assad and things like that obviously are very bizarre

takes to have as a Democratic presidential candidate. But as she kept tearing down the party, I just like how MSNBC was like setting it up. They're like, Senator Harris, would you like to just flame this person? It was as great as you could tell. Like they were like, they knew the sequence. They're like, OK, let's get Tulsi to say something hot. And then they'll be like uh kamala um you want to jump in and she was almost like oh yes and then this was her response to

gabbard's sort of monologue about how the democratic party's trash and i'm gonna make it better i think that um it's unfortunate that we have someone on the stage who is attempting to be the democratic nominee for president of the united States, who during the Obama administration spent four years full-time on Fox News criticizing President Obama, who has spent full-time criticizing people on this stage as affiliated with the Democratic Party, when Donald Trump was elected, not even sworn in buddied up to steve bannon to get a meeting with donald trump in the trump tower fails to call a war criminal by what he is as a war criminal and then spends full time during the course of this campaign again criticizing the democratic party yeah wow and her she couldn't she she was like, well, her response was like,

and Congresswoman Gabbard, would you like to respond? And it was sort of like, that's not all. That's, well, that's not right. Did she say something about Russian talking points, Harris? I don't know if she did, maybe towards the end of it, possibly. I don't know if she quite went that far because, you know, no one wants to- She said something about Putin having his hands so far up her- Yeah, like, are you a puppet?

Are you a puppeteer? And then Biden just had a fucking- Nailed it. Oh, sorry, what? Yo, he shit the bed off top. Oh, really? First question, you know, President Biden, you know, what would you do? You know, you said that when you're in office, the Republicans will work with you because you know how to get bipartisanship done.

And, you know, the spirit of bipartisanship will reemerge with you in office. How will you get that done? And he just like struggled through like a weird rant about like majorities, basically saying like we need majorities in the senate in the house it's like then that's not bipartisanship right so he that's and it was very like he he's struggling up there he's really struggling and then cory booker was like i heard him say he didn't want to legalize weed because it could be a gateway drug i think maybe he was high when he said that and everyone in the audience was like oh shit it was like a rap battle ko it was it was like deaf comedy and biden literally he couldn't he was just like uh i didn't dad i he had nothing

for that um and even then there was another moment where he basically said uh he said my he's like i come out of the black community in terms of support or something. It was a very odd statement to make. He's just out there. I come from the black community in terms of support. No, I'm serious, folks.

I'm serious because you were like, what do you mean? You don't come out of the black community. You go into them and try and get their vote, but it's not like you are not part of this community more support than you would think among like well of course a lot of diverse his name recognition is so high and i'm sure if one person saw debate actually saw this man speak you would be like i don't know if this guy's coming with any kind of good ideas or even like that. It should be together.

Beyond that, though, he also said he was supported by the only black woman elected to the Senate. And Kamala Harris was like, that's not true. And he's like, huh? And Cory Booker's like, what are you like gesturing to Kamala Harris? Like, what about her? And he's like, I said the first. And it's like, no, Grandpa, you said the only. That's why we got here just now.

So then he was asked another question about how he would support the Me Too movement as president. And he sort of started off about, like, you know, we need a cultural change. And then he said that, you know, no man has a right to raise a hand to a woman in anger. Or put his hand on the shoulder of a woman. Or a child or around their neck or something. But he said, no right to raise a hand to a woman in anger other than in self-defense. And then he says, we just have to change the culture, period,

and just keep punching at it and punching at it and punching at it. And so the crowd starts laughing at that. They're like, yo, what the fuck? That must be a joke, right? And he is like, no, I'm serious, folks. I really mean it. Punch women. Punch men. You should punch women. I mean, the culture of

women. Oh, fuck. But he's like so oblivious that people start laughing and he doesn't even get what they're laughing at. He thinks they're laughing at the idea that he wants to combat spousal abuse. Maybe is's usually around people who are like, oh, come on, Joe, that's not an issue.

No, I'm serious about it. Versus people like, don't say punching at it over and over. He said it like three times in a row when the question wasn't, it's, you know, but he really means it. I really mean it.

I really mean it. I really mean it, folks. I really mean it i really mean it i really mean it folks no think about it that's it those are his two like think about what that you just put your whole foot in your mouth yeah uh at least he's that flexible so it makes sense that bloomberg would formally enter the race yeah the next day yeah he's like hmm that's that's the dude uh but i don't know. See, the thing is, do you think Biden's... I'm curious to see what the polls look like next week. Yeah. If that changes, because he hasn't had a good debate ever.

No. So if his brand is that fucking strong, wow. Yeah. I don't know what... I mean, shit, we might be having to fucking vote for joe biden yeah oh boy no please god no 538 did their polling pre-debate post-debate and biden and gabbard were the only two who were like significantly under expectations or like people's opinion of them changed in the negative direction after this yeah over the course of the debate oh

interesting book or buddha judge all had positive yeah they had moments andrew yang had a couple everybody was said some good things but again i think at this point i'm seeing too many people talk i think just get you know get the top four right five end it there i understand they're trying to but at this point like i think we need to just get the people who are seriously could are in contention to have it out in front of us on the messiest debate stage ever but i think it is important because i think i think voters when you're looking at such a it's like going trying to order a fucking cheesecake factory right it's like a fucking 90 page menu right you're like i don't know bro like honestly yeah

like what's good here yeah and then if we end're like I don't know bro like what's good here and then if we end up at that point where voters are like well what's good like rather than like being able to look for themselves and identify their own values within a candidate ugh end up with some bullshit well showing that he is always a master of

knowing what everybody is feeling Michael Bloomberg is like you know what they want? Another candidate. They want an older candidate. Who's a billionaire. Because they keep talking about billionaires. So, attacks on them and shit.

So, they probably want a billionaire in the race. You look at his polling, bro. He's not, what the fuck is he going to do? Yeah, he's at like 3%. Unless he commandeers Biden's body. Right. And then he's like, yo, I got it. Put my brain in there.

Yes. And I'll make sure everything runs fine, but I'll use the Biden suit to get there. It's not going to change. Who the fuck is going to be that interested in him unless you work on Wall Street? The optics for Deval Patrick are not good. I haven't seen polling. Oh, man. He went to Morehouse College, man.

Yeah. It was bad. He went to an HBCU for a campaign event, and this is what the room looked like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There was nobody. So a small room, like a small room for a live podcast. Wow.

Like it's a small room. I mean, look, we've sold out bigger rooms than that baby. We have. But like, and it is completely empty. It's a bingo hall size room.

Like not even. Well, the, the journalist who even took the photos did, they said in all fairness, note, two people came.

Just not pictured. Okay. But two people came. And they were like, don't picture me i think right don't let people know oh would you like to learn more um no i'm gonna head out and specifically said uh that they were there because they were curious uh to see if anybody would show up yeah just like what's good here yeah i mean look nobody's interested in billionaires or people who are like working for

that class of people it's just they i mean that was an interesting thing that uh senator harris was saying is that the election is about justice is it whether it's economic racial uh like women's rights lgbtq rights that this is this is really what the focus of the election needs to be, not just obviously about defeating President Trump, but really identifying what the ills are of this country, like in lukewarm winks at the billionaire class and shit just don't get me interested because I'm like, that's the fucking problem. Yeah. Don't want that anymore. But I think it's about getting a plurality of voters to actually understand that's obviously beat Trump. But there is a way to beat Trump at the same time, mobilize people around this idea of, you know, equality. at the same time mobilize people around this idea of equality.

Yeah, although I don't think a lot of anti-Trump information is going to get circulated on Facebook based on this next story that we have. So Mark Zuckerberg, there was a story a couple weeks ago, or like last month in October, where Mark Zuckerberg spoke at Georgetown University and talked about how he was committed to free speech. And he was, that's what he wasn't about. He doesn't think that Facebook should be censoring people's free speech. Right.

He thinks the government should or some shit like that, which, yeah. I'd say, yeah. So new information has come to light that the following week, Mark Zuckerberg had dinner with Donald Trump at the White House and with Peter Thiel, the guy who killed Gawker. Yeah. The fucking conservative tech ghoul. The worst fucking ghoul.

Who allegedly takes young people's blood transfusions, right? Yeah. Yes. If that is some supervillain shit. Yeah, is that alleged? That's alleged. Alleged. Allegedly.

Allegedly. Allegedly. He's an absolute legend. For God, Peter Thiel. Yeah. No, I think that's, yeah, that's what people say, and he's like,

don't let that show up. Okay, look, I'll say allegedly, but wink, wink, wink allegedly, but I believe it. He has human blood bags. Right. Right. Which is a nice way of just saying young men.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bring me a blood bag. Which one? Zach? Yeah.

Yeah. Again, it's just a really fucking terrible, terrible thing to think about when, you know, especially with Facebook and the scrutiny they're under. Yeah. thing to think about when you know especially with facebook and the scrutiny they're under yeah and everyone looking at these tech companies like y'all have a basic like virtual monopoly over at this industry but you want to go and get in good with the president uh it's look just can we just just break this shit up already yeah and i think i hope that's another thing you know the next president takes very seriously and i'd like to see more candidates talk about too.

And there's also one thing about the debate. First time they actually talked about housing. Really? Yeah. And it was a shame Julian Castro wasn't up there because as a secretary of HUD, he would have had some good things to say. Right. But he didn't qualify.

And you got some – Steyer was just like being like, oh, I think the real estate market – it's just like, I wasn't interested in his answers. But at least the discourse is changing a bit in the debates. Yeah. Just wish some of the right people were up there. Just to make sure we always have the same mix of news for a requisite story about Trump's cognitive decline. There is a White House insider who says Trump regularly can't remember what he said or been told.

So just, yeah, we always like to have one reminder that he's losing his mind. Yeah, and should not be the president. And has access to his racism disqualifies him. The world's largest nuclear arsenal. Well, I mean, I guess if you look at past presidents, they didn't say the racist parts out loud. Right, yeah, yeah. All right, we're going to take a quick break.

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FCA, baby. And also, GLAAD, like in a statement, did point out that they still have deep ties to groups like Focus on the Family. So they're like, I would like to see them do a bit more, which is very fair. But the Outraids on the right, they really, I don't know why they have to make every moment of progress an attack on them. Yeah. But I guess that's the only way you can make every moment of progress an attack on them. Yeah.

But I guess that's the only way you can make the culture wars still pop in. Yeah. Sell some guns, probably. Matt Walsh, he tweeted, Incredibly stupid move by Chick-fil-A. They've only grown in popularity in spite of and maybe because of the backlash. They won't appease the critics by caving, but they might alienate some of their customers. No upside for them all downside so tell me because i love his work on veep and part of ucd one of the original founding members of upright citizens didn't know he had that stance wow but yeah he it's again it goes on you have people like mike huckabee in august 2012 i

coordinated a national chick-fil-a appreciation day after they were being bullied by militant hate groups. Whoa, hold on. I didn't even read this. Militant hate groups? Like, glad? Yeah. Okay. Millions showed up.

Today, Chick-fil-A betrayed loyal customers for dollar signs. He claimed he held a rally in support of Chick-fil-A and millions showed up. I think maybe he said Are you talking about the Million Man March? Like what the fuck? No, I think he maybe said I think he said go to Chick-fil-A this day to support them, but because of the volume of their business. So people were going anyway. Yeah, that's like me saying, hey everybody

go support Starbucks today. Man, the amount of people I got to fucking pull up. Astronomical. Astronomical. And I will now pat myself on the back it says today chick-fil-a betrayed loyal customers for money i regret believing they would stay true to to the convictions of founder truett kathy sad but they uh didn't they renege that statement they said that they were gonna to end donations to anti-LGBT organizations, but then like yesterday or the day before they were like, actually, sorry. Oh, really?

Yeah. They're like, actually, psych, we are going to keep doing what we've been doing. Nice. was like, we may back organizations that could possibly support LGBTQ rights if it makes sense for us. Right. Because it never really said anything. Oh, they're really trying. A lot of wiggle rooms. Yeah.

Both sides it? Yeah. Oh, I didn't see that they had doubled back. Or do you think maybe they just cleaned up their language, essentially, to make it more ambiguous? It seems like their PR person was like, gotta we gotta make sure everyone knows we're not uh hateful everyone's welcome here and then whoever owns chick-fil-a was like i didn't say that right wait a second uh also you know uh just great thinker jack posobiec said the left wins again chick-fil-a

caved to the mob and sacrificed everything they stood for and they did it at Christmas time. Motherfucker, it's not even Thanksgiving yet. Right. Yeah. It is... I wonder if it's the power of Popeyes. That's the other interesting take people say.

It's like, well, maybe because Popeyes came through and just winked at their customers. I'm like, you can come over here. I mean, that was certainly the attraction for me. I was like, I don't have to feel bad eating this shit. The Chick-fil-A is so good. I know.

It's so good. Popeye's chicken sandwich is so much better than anything. The sandwich is, look, they're different things. Better than anything at any fast food restaurant. But they are, yeah, the sandwich is, the spicy chicken sandwich, the Popeye's one, is I think superior to the Chick-fil-A one. But Chick-fil-A sandwich is also good.

You know what I mean? Also, people are getting fucking murdered over these Popeye's sandwiches. I don't support murder, but I understand. It's a good sandwich. It's a good sandwich, man. I don't understand. But I think, yeah, and also, you know,

Ben Shapiro was also really shaken up about this. He says, Chick-fil-A has survived and thrived because they served everyone and refused to cater to the council culture. Now they've caved at the behest of the censorious left. This is a terrible move and just the latest indicator that the center cannot hold. Well, you know. They don't have a lot, you know. Yeah, I don't know what they have. I guess that probably made them mad because that was like the one thing, like the one brand that was like, yeah, we're pretty conservative.

Right. And like, you're still going to come for this chicken. But now, I think now they don't even know. I mean, because like every other brand is like, has almost been like, yeah, we're not on the side of like racism. Yeah, we apologize. We didn't realize we were backing this organization or whatever. We'll change that. Whatever you want, please keep buying our stuff.

I guess it's a failure to recognize. It's funny because they don't even see that that's how capitalism works too. Like if they want to keep selling shit, they have to appeal to as many people as possible. Yes. So like you've seen like we see this. I don't know why they think some companies have values ever when their only value is literally the value of their company. Mm-hmm.

A little preaching. A little ran into some inadvertent poetry there. I guess they still have that Second Amendment movie where... Which movie? The movie where they come for people's guns actor kevin sorbo and his uh oh one of those stupid ass the reliant yeah did it come on theaters no kevin sorbo i don't think he's a lot i think it's he would be arrested if a film of his was on an actual theater screen they also like he lasts like 10 minutes in that movie. Spoiler alert. Is it sexy?

No, no. He dies 10 minutes in. Oh, oh. I had a misunderstanding. You did. Think of him as Hercules. All right, guys. Let's talk about that viral anti-meth campaign. Meth.

I'm on it. Yeah. Meth. We're on it. So people were wondering, is this Photoshopped? Yeah, this can't be real. And it turns out it's real and it's a larger campaign. Like those print ads that we saw were only the beginning.

Right. And there is a TV ad that we have a clip from. I'm on that. So am I. Meth is not someone else's problem. It's everyone in South Dakota's problem. And we need everyone to get on it. I'm on it.

So to see the kid be like, I'm on it too. Yeah. I need a backstory. CPS man. That kid's on meth. Information. So yeah,

they don't even explain it really. Like, because that's not a thing that people say. Like, I'm like, if somebody says, Hey, can you take care of that problem for me?

Yeah. You'd say, yeah, I'm on it. Yeah. You don't say I'm on that problem for you. Like taxes. I'm on it.

Like in a, yeah, I'm on taxes. Well, but that's, that doesn't, that's not even a sentence. Yeah. Anyone says on taxes. What? That's not even a sentence. Yeah. Anyone says they're on meth, it does not sound that calm.

Right. No. So turns out they're in on the joke, dude. That was the whole point, man. I get it. Yeah. South Dakota, like the South Dakota governor was like, yeah, that was the whole point, you guys.

Duh. Obviously, we knew that it was going to get passed around, and we wanted it to go viral. So I think it's working. And it's like, okay, but our question remains, how does this help you in any way? It's like a viral moment because people are talking about it. People are laughing at you. But do they have any indicator of what that means substantively to the meth problem in the state? No.

I mean, so. We got you all talking about outside of the state. Meth use among, I think it's teenagers in South Dakota is twice that of the national average. So there is a problem. Right. And now we're talking about it. So, damn it, they were right. Yeah, did they say like,

here are steps on how you can help us? I don't think so. I think it was just like, gotcha. Just so you know, it's rough here. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I don't, I still don't know. Ad agencies in South Dakota are pissed because they were all rejected in favor of a Minnesota-based company who came up with the campaign.

It wasn't even local. I know. And then we have some commentary from deans at business schools who specialize in marketing. One dean said, any good marketer would look at this and say, yeah, let's not do that. And added that people are laughing at South Dakota, which surely wasn't the objective. An advertising professor's first reaction was, what were they thinking? She was also shocked at how much money it cost. Oh, boy.

Because it cost them, the public number is $400,000. And people think that it was actually $1.4 million and the budget for combating, for treatment of the meth problem was 1.7 for next year. So they could have taken that money. Yeah. Could have been 3.1 million. Put it towards treatment centers and seeing what actually works when it comes to treatment.

So it's purely an awareness campaign. That's all it was. I'm holding you to the sword right now, Jack. What was your intent with this campaign? I can't conceive of anything else that they assume people will get out of that ad. You heard it. Yeah. Like there wasn't anything there.

There wasn't like go to this website to check out, to help. Or like talk to your friend who's on meth. Right. There's no action steps. I've always found drug PSAs like how they would work confusing. Yeah. Like the, this is your brain. This is your brain on drugs.

Right. Although, we still remember that commercial. We remember it. But what the fuck did it tell us about drugs? That someone's going to get a pan and start smashing our brain all over the kitchen. Oh, yeah. That's true. And I still do drugs anyway.

I know. That's the thing. Strumming it up! They actually found that the D.A.R.E. program made kids more likely to use drugs. Hell yeah. Yeah. Also, I was talking shit about the drugs the D.A.R.E. program made kids more likely to use drugs. Hell yeah. Yeah. Also, I was talking shit about the drugs the D.A.R.E. officer brought in. Right.

That's not weed, bro. What the fuck is that? It looks like dirt. You want to smell that? That's the worst smell. Worst smelling thing you'll ever smell in your life. It smells like fucking stress. Well, if they just explain how to do it safely as opposed to demonizing it so much.

Yeah. Because then kids are going to be like, oh, I'm not allowed to do that. Then I'm going to try. Right. As opposed to,izing it so much. Yeah. Because then kids are going to be like, oh, I'm not allowed to do that? Then I'm going to try. Right. As opposed to, you can try, but here's how to do it safely. And they're like, oh, well, it's not exciting anymore. Right.

They're like, do you want to question every life decision you want, little 16-year-old? Then yeah, go ahead, do all them shrooms. It just destabilizes their whole claim to truth. When they just start lying to you about something that's life or death it's like well fuck you then man I'm gonna try this and you're yeah they like

all those after school specials where somebody like jumps out the window because they smoked weed like this this isn't the first time that South Dakota has tried something like this they did a campaign a couple years back called Jerking Isn't a Joke, Don't Jerk and Drive.

And the idea was that when you're in a skid, when you're driving in the snow, you shouldn't jerk the wheel back. And they claimed that the best way to spread that message to people was through implying that people are jerking off. Hashtag don't jerk and drive, man. Yeah, hashtag don't do all this.

Which is also a great campaign. Yeah, do not do that. Yeah, don't masturbate and drive. It's for both. Also, shout out to a listener, Cody Quark, who sent me that when we first talked about that. Oh, really? That was why it was included here,

but I remember someone being like, I'm an embarrassed South Dakota man. I just want to let you know, this isn't the first time we had some weird shit. Yeah. Hey, man, but don't jerk and drive, though. Seriously, please. And finally, we just want to give a shout out to Milk,

RIP, nine million years to 2019. Yeah. There have been so many write-ups because Dean Foods, which is like the largest milk manufacturer, supplier in the country, had filed for bankruptcy. And they have Lehigh Valley, True Moo, fucking some other dairy. I know Lehigh Valleyhigh valley oh you do yeah hey man well r.i.p or well i mean dean foos has to file for bankruptcy to protect themselves but anyway um the one of the reasons they went bankrupt though too is like they got real arrogant back in the day when like these alternative milks were showing up and they basically like divested

and like sold off their units that were making like oat and like nut milks and things like that. Cause you're like, nah, man, we make fucking milk, not this other trash shit. And then look who's coming to knock on your coffin door. Yeah. It's all the alternative milks. But I mean, I get it. Like there's a, there's too much milk going on first, I guess some people, but I still like milk.

Yeah. In certain instances. I don't have it all day. I don't have to keep it in my refrigerator, but sometimes you like a little, little milk. Yeah. C milk. Yeah. In certain instances. I don't have it all day. I don't have to keep it in my refrigerator. But sometimes you like a little milk. Yeah, cereal. Yeah. Yeah.

And oat milk, I guess, is fun now, too. I like the chocolate oat milk, though. Because it's just like straight. It's just thick. It's like drinking chocolate sauce without any lactose. Oat milk has a lot of sugar in it. That's why I drink it. Yeah.

It's not for the health benefits. Regular milk has a lot of sugar in it, too. Isn't there it. Yeah. It's not for the health benefits. Regular milk has a lot of sugar in it. Isn't there like a thing where the alternative milks can't say milk anymore? They've been trying to, yeah, the dairy company's been suing them.

Like, well, there's no milk, what's milk then? Yeah. Yeah. But look, we know what it,

look, you can try and slow it down. You can't say like, nut beverage. It's like, nut drink. Nut drink. I guess,

what would they call it? There was some term they were trying to give them for, I don't know, alternative. Nut juice? Yeah, nut juice. It's just hard, you know? Just call it milk, man. If it's meant to be there in place of milk, why can't we just call it milk? I think we can.

A vegan burger is still a burger. That's true. You know what i mean yeah it's vegan fine meatless burger a milk dairy-free milk or like non-cow milk i don't know we get the point you can't stop the fucking progress though can't stop i tried to when i was younger i was trying to to make cheese juice. Whoa. Because in my mind, I was like, there's apple juice, there's orange juice, carrot juice. Yeah.

Why isn't there a cheese juice? Which I guess is milk. Well, hold on. Don't stop that line of thinking. Go on now. So my parents were like, sure, you can try it. And so I just got slices of American cheese and put it in a blender with sugar and water. Oh, wow. And blended it all up.

And my parents were like, you try first. And I was like, okay. And I tried it and it was disgusting. Oh, yeah. I was like, this is why there's no cheese. Well, you should have melted it down. Right. Oh, yeah.

I guess. It's chunky. Hot cheese juice. Queso would kind of be cheese juice. Like Velveeta. Well, I guess. What are we using kind of be cheese juice. Like Velveeta. Well, I guess what are we using to define as a juice? Like it has to be derived from like a squeezing process. It's more cheese smoothie.

Yeah. I guess like maybe if you're, I don't know, I'm not a cheese maker, but isn't at a certain point, aren't you like taking a cheesecloth and you're like wringing all the moisture out to make the cheese? i guess it's all that moisture that comes out is the closest you can get to a cheese juice yeah that sounds i don't know listeners let us know just be oil zeitgang tell us your favorite recipe for cheese juice so sheer it's been a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist yes uh where can people find you um all my socials are at the Sheer Truth, T-H-E Sheer Truth. And I have a website called Sheer.com.

It's not very updated, but my stuff's there. And I post about live shows on all of those things. You got any live shows coming up? I'm going to be in San Francisco December something. Nice. Sometime in December. Check the website yeah I think the end of December

and and all over nice nice and is there a tweet you've been enjoying oh yeah someone just sent this to me

yesterday so I guess the screenwriter of Harriet the movie was saying that when she was originally going to studios talking about the script

one studio exec said that yes yeah said that Julie Roberts should play played Harriet Tubman and so this at Tracy L Ross tweeted a picture of Julie Roberts in the I guess the closest thing to a slave

costume saying, big mistake, massa, huge. Oh no. That's incredible. It's very funny. But you also have

a podcast too. I have a podcast called Best Friends with Nicole Byer and it comes out every Wednesday. It's very fun. Sometimes we do live shows.

We don't have a date coming up right now, but we will. Yeah. And what else? Oh, I had a movie called The Weekend come out recently on Amazon and iTunes. It's a rom-com, very fun. Check it out.

Check it out, yeah. Non-stop. Named after the singer? No, nothing to do with The Weekend. Nothing to do with The Singer. Yeah. Interesting. Miles, where can people find you?

Oh, you can find me, follow me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. A tweet I like is from James Adomian, actually, at jadomian, because he does a Bernie Sanders impression. And this dude literally had Bernie Sanders, the real life Bernie Sanders on. And they made a video. They're talking to each other. And it's Bernie Sanders talking to probably one of his the best Bernie Sanders impersonator. And it's like a fever dream.

Yeah, it's real weird. And it's weird because like Bernie's the real Bernie is kind of feeding off James's energy and vice versa. But he's also like you can tell it's like when you, if you like speak and there's a delay, like you, it kind of fucks with your ability to talk. Like Bernie's like kind of at first, he's like, yeah, yeah. There's a little like an echo almost. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, the tweet was just said Bernie versus Bernie at Bernie Sanders at Jadomian at the

underculture. I mean, just look at his, I'll retweet the video if you want to see it. Bernie Sanders tweeted, it was an honor to talk to myself. And also, uh, the new podcast is out for 20 day fiance. I'm really surprised at how many of y'all thought I was joking that this was a show and like, Oh,

this is real. I thought it was a bit, you kept saying started as a joke that you were going to start a show called for, I have been talking shit about doing this to be honest for, I think one year now. Okay. Uh, but that's because it was just a show called 420 Day Fiance. I have been talking shit about doing this, to be honest, for I think one year now. Okay. But that's because it was just a long development process. We went through a lot of different co-host combinations,

things like that, a lot of legal issues. TLC tried to sue me. But now we're out of the woods, and the show is here. So check out the new podcast. Wait, what's it about? 420 Day Fiance. It's about 90 Day Fiance. Oh, okay.

With the inside before Alexandra. Oh, okay. I like to describe it as an elevated discussion 90 Day Fiance. Oh, okay. With me and Sophia Alexander. Oh, okay. I like to describe it as an elevated discussion for advertiser purposes. Oh, yeah. And yeah, so check us out there

wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, and that's that. Abby Cohen tweeted, me, I got an amazing idea. An advent calendar but with sausages. Guy, just substituting sausages for chocolate?

Me, no. All of it is sausages. Guy, just substituting sausages for chocolate? Me, no. All of it is sausages. All of it? And I am sausages. You are? And you are sausages. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

That's wild. And then Christine Nangle tweeted, Detective trying to solve my murder. There are two wine glasses on our nightstand. This must mean she had company. My ghost lighting up a ghost cigarette. Lol. Okay, big man.

Let's go with that. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on miles you know for the weekend we're going to go out on a song by own raw called

t vendor on the street uh and this album i think it's a lot of like samples from chinese albums and like influence from Asian music. It just has a knack for putting together these sample-based instrumentals. It's a nice way to ease your way into your weekend. I know it's cold weather, so have a cup of tea. Fire up the fire. And do a sing. It's supposed to go down to six.

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