The Daily Zeitgeist - Biden Still Listening To Science? Is Disney Being Deceptive? 12.11.20

Episode Date: December 11, 2020

In episode 777, Miles and guest host Jamie Loftus are joined by comedian Katia Kvinge to discuss the Biden administration disinfecting the White House before moving in, Joe Biden not following the sci...ence, the covid vacationers, Disney World increasing park capacity, the State Department throwing a party, and more!FOOTNOTES: Biden To Have Entire WH East And West Wings Showered With Disinfectant Right After Trump Leaves Joe Biden Said He’d “Follow the Science” on the Pandemic. He Isn’t. The Jet-Setters Scheming to Break All the COVID Rules Disney World increases park capacity to 35% as coronavirus cases increase across the country Disney World Hits Capacity at All Four Parks Today PHOTO: Walt Disney World Now Placing Digital Face Masks Over Maskless Guests in On-Ride Photos Walt Disney World's Florida Problem At Disney World, ‘Worst Fears’ About Virus Have Not Come True Dismissing health concerns, State Department treats 200 guests to holiday drinks, tours and leftover ‘Be Best’ swag WATCH: Shamana - Soundcloud Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:10 oh hello the internet wake up now wake up y'all don't go to sleep just because it substitutes here we still got learning to do book reading to do uh welcome my students to Season 163, Episode 5 of the Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. If you forgot to read your class syllabus, you will know that this is the podcast where we kick off the top of America's shitty skull, look into its shared consciousness, get freaked out, put the skull back on, try and problem solve, and then, you know, just have a drink and maybe, you know, bite to eat after. And then copy up someone else's paper. Yeah, exactly. And plus, I'm not running your papers through any kind of search software, so plagiarism is allowed.
Starting point is 00:02:51 And look, it's fine because it's Friday, December 11th, 2020. I guess 40-something days till January 20th. My name is Miles Gray, a.k.a. Secretary of Defense Miles Graytheon. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host. That's how I'm just feeling, right? You know what I mean? You know what? Me and the Zamboni.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Yeah, exactly. It's the Zam and Graytheon show. Please welcome Jamie Loftus. A.k.a. Jamie, Jamie, Jamie. Can't you see? Sometimes your pod's about Zambonis. A.K.A. Jamie, Jamie, Jamie. Can't you see? Sometimes your pod's about Zambonis. Ooh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Ooh, and I just love your icy ways. Guess that's why the rink surface needs to be saved. I don't know. We're still workshopping. You know, it's substitute teacher energy. We'll figure it out in the lounge. Yeah. We're going to take it to the lounge.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Who was that from? Who hit you with that one? It was a collaborative effort. Let me find. I need to find who did it. But it was someone did a version of that. And then another person replied, you should have included the word Zamboni. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:57 It's funny when I watch the AKAs be formed in real time, like collaboratively. Yeah. You love to see. You love to see. It was a collab. And it was a bit of a scold. And let me find out who did that. Oh, I keep closing the windows that I'm supposed to keep open. It's from Kevin Amend and Bag of Trips.
Starting point is 00:04:21 It was a collaborative effort. Kevin came in with this suggestion bag of trips responded by saying where the fuck is the respect the zamboni lore you fuck all right kevin replied fuck so thanks to both of them like they knew it was like oh fuck like that's how i read that fuck as a tweet exactly like not like fuck but like fuck you're right it was a whole everyone was vibing in their replies. It was good. We love it.
Starting point is 00:04:48 We love it. Before we get to our guests, let's tip our hat to what we got on the docket today. Just a quick – the White House, the gross-ass White House will be fully cleaned before the new old guy moves in. We're also hearing that – we heard Joe Biden talk a lot about the science and stuff. And we'll see how he's doing with the listening to science part of things. That was a big part of his campaign. We're also going to talk about this fucked up Facebook group for vacation enthusiasts, which is really something else. The Daily Beast.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Are we going back to Mensa? I really don't have the Constitution. Okay. Different Facebook group. But it feels like they're all coming from like the same contrarian tree at the very least. Or it's saying it's about vacations, but the more you look, you're like,
Starting point is 00:05:33 is this really about vacations and COVID or just this superiority complex? Or you can't tell me. Facebook group is never what it's supposed to be about ever. Yeah. Then we're going to talk about some, some, you know, some deception going on at disney
Starting point is 00:05:46 world disneyland you know some subterfuge happening uh on the on the on their in their photographs uh as well as uh just a touch with the new zoro reboot because there's you know it's the time it's the decade of reboots and it's it continues uh But before we get to all that, we have to welcome our guest. Someone who was quite literally going to be on the show in mid-March, and then right at the last minute was, like, emailed us and was like, you know, I'm actually, you know, I'm from the UK, and I'm thinking it's probably better for me to go home, you know, given this seems like this pandemic thing is happening.
Starting point is 00:06:23 But we got her back. Thank the Lord uh please welcome oh just one of our favorite people to talk to uh our favorite norwegian scottish person katya kavinga welcome you're norwegian right that was i got it right yeah yeah okay i was making sure american nor London. Grew up in Scotland. Family from here, family from there. You got the whole Benetton family. Yeah, the chances are I could say any smattering of countries and it would probably resonate with you. Yeah, I was once introduced on stage as the Irish-Canadian-Swedish girl.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I was like, so close. Wow. So close, but not quite. Just ever so slightly. Edge to the left. Yeah, just turn your globe by one degree and the right countries will line up. Yeah, exactly. That's so funny.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Oh, well, what's new? Are you in Europe at the moment? I'm in London right now, yep. Shout out to London. London, yes. Nice to be here. I feel like sometimes when I've been in the uk for a while like hearing you guys speak like with your american accents like it feels like such a
Starting point is 00:07:31 comfort that i miss so much like that la i don't know just being around yeah and there's just like such a different culture in the uk i just had an audition today where i had to get someone in the UK to read with an American accent because this was like UK morning time, which everyone in LA that I would know would be asleep. And it was so hard to find someone that could do an American accent.
Starting point is 00:07:56 And I put a thing out on Instagram asking, can anyone? And it ended up being such a fun thing. Oh, great. And now my phone's ringing. So whimsical, that phone ring though yeah this is british phones oh wow i have to wait until the other person in the other room answers okay there we go i actually just um signed with an la manager and while he was uh we were doing our zoom meeting deciding like if we should um like work together um his kids came in on the meeting
Starting point is 00:08:26 as he was like trying to be like yeah i'd like to work with you and it reminded me of that like video that went viral of like the journalist and oh yeah who's like in korea and they like yeah that literally happened the kids nanny was like no like pulling the kids yeah it happens but no it's really nice to speak to you guys of course it's so nice to speak to you guys it's so nice to talk to you too I truly I cannot I can't recall the last time I've heard anyone say they missed hearing an American accent
Starting point is 00:08:53 I was like wow especially the last couple years yeah I was like I feel like we're I think my dad's American so there's like a comfort it's like a familial comfort but I know there is that cliche but I think now more's American. So there's like a comfort. It's like a familial comfort. But I know there is that cliche. But I think now more like when we see Americans in the UK, we're kind of like, are you guys
Starting point is 00:09:11 okay? I know you've had a rough four years. Because yeah, we're like the trash, like losers. Like everyone's like, oh man, like it was a lie this whole time. Those poor bastards. They had a rough ride. You know, your country's actual dog shit. I don't know if you knew that this whole time. It's like, well, some of us did. And we were the ones that they were calling radical
Starting point is 00:09:30 or whatever. But how has the sort of pandemic been treating you from the lens of being in Europe and your own experience? Well, so like you said, I was meant to do your podcast. And then Trump was saying that he was going to ban anyone leaving the country so I was like oh gotta get out of here um so um so I booked the flight back to the UK within like a week's notice or something and I ended up catching coronavirus on the flight there were so many people coughing yeah yeah and um and I was in bed for two weeks sick and then i got a concussion a week after i recovered i don't know like i feel like um covid for me like i i like i had all the breathing issues and pain in my kidneys and my whole body was just like wiped out but i also felt kind of like a
Starting point is 00:10:19 little disorientated like it sounds so stupid but like you know like if you walk through a door you walk in the middle but for some reason like if you walk through a door you walk in the middle but for some reason after having covid for like a week or two i would like it's like my sense of direction was off and i would like walk and just my elbow would hit it and then so one night i'd had the bathroom door closed which i like never do and i like had just really good news the night before i went to bed. So I was like, I woke up in the morning, just like so good,
Starting point is 00:10:47 like so happy. I'm smashed my face on the, um, the door. Cause it was closed, which it never is. So yeah, then I was a concussed for a week.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Wait, that's how you concussed yourself was cause you walked in the door. Cause you had a little bit of the fog from COVID. Wow. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. And then,
Starting point is 00:11:04 um, and then I had that long COVID. Yeah. So unfortunately, I've still had like, yeah, chest pains and kidney stuff. But apart from that, like it comes in waves. Like right now, I feel completely fine. And then I was fine like a few months ago. And then every now and then I'm like, oh, God, fuck.
Starting point is 00:11:22 This has never happened before. I'm sorry to hear that. So, yeah, it's weird. But, yeah, just trying to, yeah, eat healthy, do what I can. Yeah. And hope nothing happens. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, a note to all of us that, yeah, there's no level of safety that we can take
Starting point is 00:11:42 or precaution we can take when it comes to our health. Yeah, it's odd. Yeah. So I actually got stuck up in Edinburgh during the lockdown in the UK. And the news articles were all just like, you know, like, this is an apocalypse. The world's ending. And I was so glad that I was staying right by the ocean, like by the water, because I was kind of just like, I'd look out the window. I'd be like, well, the waves are still waving.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Like, life finds a way. Right, right, right. The goals are still here. Like life finds a way. Right, right, right. That was like super. The goals are still here. Yeah. Exactly. Like I can't get those LA edibles. So it's like I've got my UK waves.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Right. I mean, yeah, if you need to. Yeah, we do have that going for us. If you want a bit of a snide package sent to you, let us know. As we'll say, we'll leave that there because I'm not an international drugs trafficker. Or am I? Who's just merely pretending to be a podcast host. The most uninteresting action film you've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:12:33 The worst long con you've ever heard of. It's like, what does he do? He's like, oh, he's dodgy. He sends edibles to people in Scotland. You guys got iron brew the last time I was on the podcast. So you had it from Scotland to you guys. Yeah, we had to have the iron brew, which delicious, like bubblegum. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Shout out to the brew. Okay, well, Katya, let's dive in a little bit with you and see what's going on with you. What's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are or who you have become? Yes. Who you have been. Who you have become. Yes. Who you have been.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Who you're leaving become. Yes. Who you have been. Who you have become. Yes. Who you have been. Who you're leaving behind. Yeah. Okay. So this kind of answers all of them. So I recently, I just looked at it today. Most, all my searches just the last few weeks have been like, and it would literally just be like one name. It would be like Jennifer Aniston, Melaniaania trump olivia coleman miley cyrus and that's all it is is just different names of celebrities which i think any detective would be like what
Starting point is 00:13:30 it's because i've been filming a bunch of um impressions videos and um i did like a video doing a bunch of uh like different voices and stuff and i just sometimes would just literally google the name to be like, oh yeah, that's how they hold their mouth. Or that's how their shoulders are. Or that's like how I should do their makeup. So yeah, my search history is just like one name, random celebrity. Who's been the most difficult person to do an impression of?
Starting point is 00:14:01 I actually was going to try and do... Because I mean, you you're really solid impressionist so i'm curious of like what you struggle with um i just tried well so i filmed this i filmed this 26 voices video and i ruined my voice the next day and i was just like then trying to film a video doing mariah carey and i was like like there was no way it was gonna happen i just had a whistle dance yeah there was just no way I could reach that um yeah I think there's just like and men I find it hard to like be sound sound like a man sometimes if only I could do men then I could do everyone
Starting point is 00:14:38 um I yeah for sure like if there's someone that i haven't tried out yet then it's kind of just trying to find the hook and um what's the kind of angle or who am i gonna right yeah how am i gonna do this person that 26 voices when i remember people like a lot of uh friends were passing around at the time oh really you know yeah because it went viral you know legit viral that video that was so good oh yeah it yeah, it was great. And I was like, oh, that's Katya. And they're like, what do you mean? They're like, oh, that's the homie fool.
Starting point is 00:15:09 You don't know. She only came on my podcast before COVID. Coronavirus. We almost hung out in London during the World Cup, but our schedules didn't line up. They're like, so do you have proof? I'm like, well, maybe if I look at my old text messages, you might see something.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I was saying I'm like going to Brixton or something. But yeah, it was. Every time I do this podcast, you always bring that up. Like we almost hung out in London. Almost. I know. It was just, there was, yeah. I think it would have been fun because of the World Cup.
Starting point is 00:15:37 And I think we were going to catch an England match. Yeah. That would be fun. But for some reason in my memory, I, for for some reason have this memory of seeing you in London, but I totally, that didn't happen. No, no. Almost, almost. I don't know why I thought that.
Starting point is 00:15:51 This is now a Miss Connections podcast. I know. Yeah, yeah. But we squarely know each other very well. Yeah. Ah, darn it. Yeah, yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Yeah, I actually bumped into Jack at the Grove one time. Before I left town, actually. And I rode that trolley with him and his kids. The cart that goes through the Grove. I don't know why the image of Jack at the Grove is so funny to me. It is. But picturing Jack at the Grove makes me laugh. Because we all think of jack as like
Starting point is 00:16:25 not just going to the grove like in in our minds he's like reading books or like researching stuff not doing the hyper consumer shit like being like oh i had to go to yankee candle company jack loitering outside of a cheesecake factory like it makes sense and it doesn't well yeah because he's more he has like his head in like the serious shit like the most jokey thing i can see him doing is like yo i caught him at that mountain duke on it's like okay that's more like on brand for him but like the grove on a trolley no no the grove on a trolley not our jack uh paint that that's funny the first time i actually met jack was doing when he did cracked that podcast right and we were actually talking about mountain dew like how it's illegal in the uk i think it's still illegal i'm
Starting point is 00:17:11 not sure but because of there's like so many products in the uk that aren't allowed that are sorry that are legal in america but aren't allowed in the uk because of the contents right and what's funny is like this stuff in the eu and uk that we can't get here is because we'd rather upcharge people for a prescription and not have it over the counter like that's like the fucked up part like on the other side it's like no we don't want people to have yellow number five die in europe because it's not good for you and the u.s is like hold on man is that is that cold medicine to actually knock your fucking cold out? Yeah. Oh, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Yeah, we can't have that. We can't have that. That's too strong. That's too strong. You need to go through an insurance company for that. Yeah, totally. Stark differences. Katya, what is something that you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:17:57 Underrated. Okay, so at the start of lockdown, I started learning Spanish on Duolingo because I was like, when I get back to L.A., I want to be able to speak Spanish. And I'm actually loving it. I'm now on a 233 day streak, like a total nerd. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah, I've been doing it the whole time. And I mean, I don't know. I keep telling people that I'm doing duolingo and everyone's like
Starting point is 00:18:26 that's rubbish like you're not going to learn anything and i'm so i can't believe how much spanish i've learned from it but then anytime someone tries to have a conversation with me all i can think of is i get too nervous because i've not had it in conversation. But on the app, I'm like a whiz. Yeah. I mean, ¿por qué elegiste Duolingo? Sí, yo aprende, pero yo no. I don't know what you said.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I mean, full disclosure, I had to use Google Translate to ask you, why did you choose Duolingo? Oh, yeah. Because, you know, I had to use Google Translate to ask you, why did you choose Duolingo? Oh, yeah. Because, you know, this is a babble show. When we talk about learning foreign languages, you know, there's an embargo on mentioning Duolingo. I'm a Rosetta Stone head. I'm old school. Call me old fashioned, but I use the old. No, I don't know anything.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I don't know anything. And all my Spanish is secondhand just from osmosis. It's funny because I have the Babble app that I'm trying to learn more Spanish with, but I just can't get my streak going. Yeah, I know. That was the exact same as me. 233 days is wicked. I know.
Starting point is 00:19:37 I can't believe it. That's like all of lockdown? Yeah. So the only way I've managed to do it is first thing when I wake up, it's the first thing I do. Otherwise, I would never be able to keep a day streak because you just do other things and you just get loose track of time. Yeah, I know. I can't believe it.
Starting point is 00:19:52 That's probably the only thing I've ever managed to do for that long in my life. That's amazing. Wait, why Spanish? Was it just because of LA or did you have any other connections with Spanish throughout your life? I went to Mexico in January, actually, right before lockdown. And that's one connection. I love Mexico.
Starting point is 00:20:10 But also I love tacos and Mexican food so much. But when I was in LA, I was so embarrassed because I asked for it's like the pork. But a certain type of pork begins with a C, which I can't remember. And I asked. Carnitas. But I always forget what it is, and I accidentally said, can I have the pork quinceanera? And he was like, you want to party?
Starting point is 00:20:30 Oh, yeah. I know. And after that, I was just like, I need to learn Spanish now. Yeah, that'll get you roasted. Thank God. I know, I know. Thankfully, he was like really nice. I would have been like, yo, she said pork quinceanera.
Starting point is 00:20:45 They're like, you want a pork dish that turned 15 years old and we're having a party for it? Oh my God. I know. I was mortified. And that's when I was like, yeah. Well, good for you. I mean, if I'm going to go to LA, I'm learning Spanish.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Yeah. You got to have that. I mean, like no Angelino can walk around with, you got to have some Spanish in the back pocket. Yeah, for sure. That's good for you. You don't want to be one of these trash people who's like i don't give a shit yeah you should know what i meant and you know exactly right you internalize the guilt and now we're learning the entire language top to bottom you come back and you're speaking like castilian and they're like
Starting point is 00:21:18 i'm sorry yeah i really hope i see the same guy and i can just like wow him and like just say like sing a Spanish song or something. Right. Like an apology poem. Right. It ends up backfiring. Like this felt very patronizing and offensive actually. So I actually don't want to serve you anymore. But that's good.
Starting point is 00:21:37 You know, shout out to anybody learning languages, especially like later on in life because like it really does help your brain. Like you want to keep that shit fresh like you got to do new shit like that and test it definitely love love hearing that uh katya what's something that you think is over overrated um i i know some people i know people love it but i find instagram live a little bit overrated okay so um so I just saw Pharrell. I'm just saying this because I literally just saw this. Pharrell Williams went Instagram live and I was like, oh my god, that's so cool.
Starting point is 00:22:12 But for just 10 minutes, you just see it's like that selfie angle of just them staring at their phone going shout out to Albania. And it's just like... And then, because the thing is the videos get saved on their profile so if you're ever going to watch that video again it's like the worst 10 minutes of content ever
Starting point is 00:22:31 yeah and then um yeah i did an instagram live like it was the first time i'd ever done one and i didn't realize that they were filmed and then on the uh like i thought it was kind of like doing a podcast type of thing where it's like okay okay, it's done. So in the ether, no one will see. And he's like, yeah, cool. It's going to be in my profile.
Starting point is 00:22:48 And suddenly I was like all self-conscious, like, oh my God, like that's there forever. And I just thought it was a fleeting moment. Yeah. My, I wish,
Starting point is 00:22:56 I wish that people doing Instagram live shows would make we, that we could all as a community, make the rule that you just don't save it. Like don't save it. I don't want people. Yeah. That reminds me, as a community, make the rule that you just don't save it. Like, don't save it. I don't want people to see me be like, hello. Yeah, that reminds me. I should delete this one when I did, like, on election day. Although I will say the only thing that I have heard that has been awesome from, like, this is a Facebook Live, I think, was, and this is just a story I heard.
Starting point is 00:23:20 But as far as I know, there's this comic in L. this comic in LA Buddy Diaz I think I don't know if you guys know yeah yeah um I heard that he had his laptop stolen and he was able to track where his laptop had been stolen and he went on Facebook live um and they found out it was like some homeless people under a bridge had stolen it so as he was on Facebook live like to have witnesses he went and got his laptop back that's the only time I've ever heard of, like, an awesome Facebook Live story. Yeah, aside from that, I'm just like, I don't want to see someone's selfie angle
Starting point is 00:23:51 just staring at going, oh, hello, Germany. Do not know that, yeah. The lives that are just purely, like, there's a few different buckets, I feel like. There's ones where people are, like, doing a show for people, and, like, that's one version. Then there's like the like someone actually going on a rant type ones that are like tend to go viral when a celebrity is doing. And then there are ones that are just so blatantly like for the person's ego where you're like, you just went live and are looking at yourself and then like waving, checking out your like looking at yourself, being like, what up?
Starting point is 00:24:26 There are some... It depends on when celebrities go live. It so depends on who it is too because you could end up with a Vanessa Hudgens situation or you could... Someone who is fun when they go live and at least when I...
Starting point is 00:24:41 Two celebrities that I usually watch when they go live is Anthony Hopkins because he usually does... Sir Anthony Hopkins? least when i like two celebrities that i i usually watch when they go live is anthony hopkins because he usually does sir anthony hopkins i'm so sorry sir anthony hopkins he's got his cat on top of his piano and he just goes hello like he's just playing songs it's very peaceful and then lakeith stanfeld does very chaotic instagram lives where he will like have fans like request to join and then he'll just talk to them. Oh,
Starting point is 00:25:08 that's nice. And so there was, I watched this really, it went on forever. And I'm like, I wonder if everyone, I don't know. I just have this shared memory with whoever was watching that.
Starting point is 00:25:18 But there was like a woman in Oregon who was like, look, Keith, I want to show you my chicken farm. And he was like, okay. And then it was this long, like she couldn't find the chickens. And I think he wanted to be like, Lakeith, I want to show you my chicken farm. And he was like, okay. And then it was this long, like she couldn't find the chickens. And I think he wanted to be like, okay, I'm going to go.
Starting point is 00:25:30 But he kind of felt bad. And so he's like, no, find the chickens. And it went on forever. That's also funny too. And you're like, oh, Lakeith's a good dude for letting this go on. But you're kind of like, just end it for everyone's sake though. I know, we're all like, Lakeith, get rid of chicken lady we're done yeah do not it's it's hard being a merciful god when you're trying to make content unfortunately it really is now we're saying this i feel like every time i talk
Starting point is 00:25:54 about like underrated and overrated by the time we've discussed it i'm like actually it's not that bad well no i think i think what you're talking about the the Pharrell being like, shout out to random countries or whoever's putting flag emojis in it. It's like, what is the point of that? Because I'm a huge Pharrell fan. Yeah, same. But like, because I love the Neptunes. Like, all the music they made is like, I'm just stuck in my brain. If he goes live, I'm like, please give me some insights.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Please reveal something. Don't just like wave or be like, yo, check out the new Adidas collab i did with louis vuitton i'm like well come on bro like give me some fucking facts some information yeah not that mine are any better for his age like he's one of those people that people suspect he's a vampire just because he hasn't aged yeah i know him and mario lopez you know Him and Mario Lopez. Him, Mario Lopez, Paul Rudd. They all have some sort of arrangement. When you think that him and Joe Buck from Fox Sports were classmates, you're like, damn, fool. Y'all are on opposite ends now. We're like, Joe Buck is like, isn't he like an old man?
Starting point is 00:26:59 Someone lost a bet. Okay, well, let's take a quick break, and we'll come back and get into some stories after this. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds, Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion
Starting point is 00:27:29 became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. I mean, my reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest,
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Starting point is 00:30:44 you can still watch us, but you gotta listen. Like, if you're watching us, you have to watch us. No, you mean you have to listen to us. I mean, you can still watch us, but you got to listen. Like if you're watching us, you have to tell us like if you're out the window, you have to say, hey, I'm watching you outside of the window. Just just you know what? Listen to the Amber and Lacey Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and let's uh let's i guess bring our attentions over to the white house as we you know for all the talk of like is what's trump gonna do it seems like he was the logistically looks like he will physically leave washington dc like all the movements we're seeing in his own world and
Starting point is 00:31:30 preparations being made in either direction it seems like that's happening although we don't know what he's still capable of because the the lawsuit uh track is definitely being extinguished fully and curious to know what now he's going to resort to to try and upend the election which is a whole other discussion uh which we will only probably see uh play out horrifically in real time over the next couple weeks but who knows uh he may he may lose the appetite and just go to russia because it seems like they're offering him a way out uh but anyway with that said, he has. Yeah, we were talking on yesterday's show about how Russian state media is basically
Starting point is 00:32:09 openly extending an invitation and saying the government should actually offer him asylum because he will be prosecuted in the United States. They're literally like, do you want to be our new? We have a job position open for Rasputin for 21st century Rasputin if you care to roll through. 21st century Rasputin if you care to roll through 21st century Rasputin man uh there is comes in on a skateboard and it's Donald Trump you're like oh what the fuck is this uh yeah it's dust it is one of those things and like we were saying yesterday Jamie like he'd be way more effective as a like tool of propaganda if he's fully enveloped in russia like by whatever
Starting point is 00:32:46 they need because from there he can they'd be like we have him here and he sends messages to them there and it's actually the most effective thing we've ever had or cultivated actually because they tried it with you know stephen seagal and we all just ignored him unfortunately i think they took a big swing thinking like well well, if Steven Seagal is an honorary, you know, Russian of repute, something will happen. But it didn't. Yeah. But either way, the White House itself in the moment while we were speaking is a grimy cesspit that is probably grimier than a rave porta potty. And with all like the anti-science, anti-handwashing, non-mask wearing nonsense that goes on in there daily.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Yes. If I were the person who was moving in next i would i would want power wash it yo like burn it the fuck down honestly yeah is that an option can we go take it to the fucking studs on this honestly yeah it would it would be cathartic to see it i mean i think for everybody everyone it would be nice you need like an exterminator all the power you know honestly i feel like that might help everybody feel good like yeah i think everyone might bring their own thing like if you're a just straight lib you want to be like yeah fuck trump's white house you're a trumper being like
Starting point is 00:33:56 yeah joe biden can't live there if you're a little more like on the left you're like the man that shit was built by slaves and his bullshit get that shit out of here you know like, man, that shit was built by slaves and is bullshit. Get that shit out of here. You know, like, there's... Everybody would rejoice, but we digress. I think they're just going to call it eco-lab. Hey, we'll just throw out the idea, you know, if anyone wants to do it. You know, we're doing... Hey, Joe Bynum, we're open to it.
Starting point is 00:34:18 We're open to it. Hey, Joe Bynum. Could we get someone with, like, a sage stick, a California sage stick, justifornia sage stick just like this needs some better positive energy oh right right uh i mean it would make sense because that's already like cultural appropriation so to on on top of that within the white house like let's layer it on oh i just want someone to take a flamethrower to melania's christmas decorations like there's so many beautiful possibilities here that's cathartic you know like everyone
Starting point is 00:34:44 can come in and beat the shit out of the white house however they want to it's like look you get a sledgehammer in 30 seconds um do whatever the fuck you want and then we'll we'll just do it like that to kind of begin some kind of cathartic process for people uh but so one of the strongest indications now that he will be leaving is that there's this whole story that team biden is going to disinfect the fuck out of the White House before they move in. In this political article, they're talking about Biden's transition team will have the White House fully cleaned by general service services, administration staffers will, quote, thoroughly clean and disinfect every area of the East and West wings that people have touched, including furniture and doorknobs. And a private contractor will also be brought in for, quote, disinfectant misting services. I mean, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Yeah. Why not? No matter where you fall on Biden. Fair enough. Yeah. No one's been like, yeah, I would clean the fuck out of that too. Like, no one that seems an across-the-board thing. You want it clean
Starting point is 00:35:50 after seeing how these people have been operating in there. He's gotta live there. That's unfortunate, yeah. They should do one of those shows, you know, where they, like, black out the lights and then use, like, a UV light and just, like, look at all these stains. Here's all his piss. If you take a black light, oh my god. Yeah, black light, yeah. Oh, no, no, no. I couldn't just like, look at all these stains. Here's all his piss. If you take a black light, oh my god.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Yeah, black light. Oh, no, no, no. I couldn't. No. I'll be like re-traumatized just all over again. I feel like there'd just be like a Trump mark, like a Trump body shape. Like an outline? Just riddled on the outline?
Starting point is 00:36:21 It's like, alright, hit me with it. Like spray tan marks just all on the world yeah oh god brutal they're like yeah the we have to actually throw everything out that human skin is touched in this place unfortunately yeah you know what i was i was hoping for the best but we do have to burn it down there's just no other way unfortunately um but like you know a lot of this is coming on the uh like the suggestions i think of the you know accepted medical knowledge in the world but nicole lori who is one of biden's code covid19 advisors uh was basically saying that like this operation in the white house will quote be the polar opposite
Starting point is 00:36:57 of what you're seeing now in terms of like you'll you will need to wear masks like we will be socially distancing we actually acknowledge that there's a pandemic. But it's interesting to hear that and using a line from a COVID-19 advisor about what is best because we're always going to take a look at what is actually happening with the Biden administration because the stakes are very high right now. And as we were saying, as we pinched our noses to go to the polls, just to sort of give a slight, uh, delay to auto autocracy in this country. Um,
Starting point is 00:37:30 he kept saying, I'll listen to the scientists. The science will guide what we do with this pandemic. I will listen and people like, fuck. Yeah. Because, uh,
Starting point is 00:37:40 you know, when we look around at the countries that are doing better, you're like, it's cause they, the, the, the leaders of the country said, we acknowledge that literally don't know how to act. We just there's no sense of duty to each other in this country. Unfortunately, the culture is too much about the self that we it's it's it's a very uniquely fucked up american way of handling things
Starting point is 00:38:27 and dr michael osterholm who's been a very outspoken of like you know expert on all of this who's been really like great to listen to because he's probably one of the clearest people he doesn't mince his words he likes to be very direct and like let people know how bad it can be why it can get that bad and realistically what needs to be done he was advocating for four to six week shutdowns um along with the government and many other experts saying we need like a four to six week shutdown and you should actually pay people so they can stay at home that way we can achieve maximum compliance because right now we're doing this thing where it's like well stay, stay inside. But also like if you can't work, that's not my problem.
Starting point is 00:39:06 But you better stay inside and don't ask me for a fucking dime. What do you think I am? The government that you pay taxes to? And I'm supposed to fucking help you out on behalf? No, fuck that. That's the weird situation we're in. Right. It's like, oh, wait, that shit that people have been asking for from literally moment one.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Like that, that's back now. Cool. Yeah. Can I just check? Sorry, as the outsider. So as far as I know, you guys got paychecks the first lockdown, but there's not been any more payments? No. One $1,200 payment seven months ago.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Yeah. And then there was obviously there were some beefed up unemployment benefits, but also people benefits are running out so many people yeah and so many people aren't able to even access that yeah but that's the problem is katya and you probably you lost a bit of your american-ness by being in the uk you have to pull yourself up by your fucking bootstraps here um and that's you can't make it work um then honestly you're expendable yeah like if you can't work and you can't make it work then this isn't going to work for us it's sort of the mentality here and it sucks i know i mean it's beyond sometimes when i'm out there yeah and i feel like we're already we're already seeing with the transition that's taking place now that it's like you know we we knew we were
Starting point is 00:40:24 voting for scraps but it's like the scraps are becoming apparent we can't even get a you know it's like there are currently arguments going on to get americans uh six hundred dollar checks maybe if you're fucking lucky and that's what the biden administration has brought to the table yes are While we're doing like a $700 billion defense fucking spending bill. Yeah, of course. And you think,
Starting point is 00:40:49 oh, and you look at the fucking numbers, there's about $80 billion of outstanding rent due in this country. What if you just lopped that off and just said,
Starting point is 00:40:58 we're starting fucking over and, you know, we need to rethink this. But it's too, it's too radical for people but that's not yeah yeah but it's just never going to happen wow it really was this lure of like yeah we're gonna do the right thing ah yoinks this is still america we're just somewhere blue hats somewhere red hats let's get an airbnb executive in the cabinet let's get mr right the on in here
Starting point is 00:41:23 but he is a man of color so try and look past that which is like the thing that they're doing which is like so even though we have a board member of raytheon coming into the secretary of defense role when most were like we need more civilian oversight of the military not generals um they're like a lot of the argument being pedals like well it is the you know he's african-american man and blah blah blah it's like right but you can't just say you can't just use a like you're just diversifying the look of oppression that's all it is right you're not actually it's not real diversity just diversifying the look of the system but anyway yeah we digress we've been talking about lockdowns everyone's been saying lockdowns dr fauci has been talking about lockdowns how they're fucking effective you know we for all the love we send to new zealand they did a lockdown
Starting point is 00:42:10 uh these other countries that are getting like in asia other places lockdowns while also looking after the people to be able to achieve the compliance and also you know as a duty to your citizens to take care of them they're doing those things so we're like collective imagine yeah and we're like oh shit okay so fauci saying that osterholm saying that and biden's out here campaigning on i'll listen to the scientists and if they tell me and he himself in august said if they told me to shut it down when we might have to shut it down well cut to biden is president and not doing anything that he said he would. He's all these campaign promises. We're starting to see these people walk their comments back.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Dr. Fauci is not saying that it's about lockdowns that we can do more targeted. There's other ways to achieve it. But sir, in your capacity, when you were really trying to speak loudly with your chest about what is right, you said,
Starting point is 00:43:01 what is right. Dr. Ulster home did the same thing when he came out and said, we need to support workers and like actually shut it down to get control over it not swamp our icus like we're doing right now we have to do this but then he got contradicted by two people on biden's team and he himself had to walk that fucking back so it's a very very i think predictable situation because yeah the term lockdown um is very scary to people in this country is specifically because the government is doing fuck all to make it work you know it's just being like right most people just associate lockdown with no work no money yeah yeah and that's on other places where it's like yeah no work but we're going to handle your
Starting point is 00:43:43 bills like don't sweat that because obviously we have a pandemic we're trying to fight. What are you talking about? We don't know options for recourse. No. So it's just it's so bleak. And all you hear from leaders is like, hang in there. All we're asking you is to stay inside is to stay inside. But I mean, here, that's not true.
Starting point is 00:44:04 It's like, yes, you're being asked to stay inside is to stay inside but i mean here that's not true it's like there yes you're being asked to stay inside but for so many people it's we're also asking you to just you know become poorer and poorer and at higher risk and at higher risk and we're not going to do anything about it like it's yeah and the best they can do is like should we lower health care costs for some people since the pandemic because like 14 million people lost their health insurance. Like, that's a question. Wait, that's the thing? Loads of people lost their health insurance?
Starting point is 00:44:30 Yeah, through being unemployed. Oh, because they couldn't. Oh, my God. Yeah, because, you know, because this is if you're not producing, you don't get health insurance here. Those are kind of the rules. Yeah. And I mean, and the unhoused population is expectedly rising because there's been no meaningful freeze put on any evictions and landlords are still allowed to evict people as much as they want to. And so it's like you get these draconian that I was reading into the specifics of how the latest L.A. lockdown was phrased.
Starting point is 00:44:58 And there was literally like a clause in it saying, you know, unhoused people are exempt from having to be inside and it's like fuck you like what are you going to do to help people yeah we're not gonna give them tickets we're not gonna yeah we're not gonna fine you it's like wait so people are given tickets out here if you're seen outside oh yeah it's the same as well no no no not necessarily but like if you if you're having like a wild ass party or something and it's like the police show up and like what the fuck is this sure but it's not there's no there's really no way for any like any municipality to enforce a lot of this stuff so it ends up being well in our first lockdown if people went for like a walkout in nature but it was like way too far from their home like
Starting point is 00:45:45 say someone from england went i don't know there's a place called the lake district it's sort of like it'd be like going from like la to the grand canyon probably not as far but it's like but it's like that's not la yeah exactly people would count that as like oh i'm doing my daily exercise um so then they would get tickets yeah um and it's funny because like even in the UK, you know, like Boris Johnson has been going back and forth on what to do and then is like, well, there'll be a circuit breaker
Starting point is 00:46:10 or lockdown thing we'll do. And, you know, you're all going through the same thing to a lesser degree, but at least there is more stringent talk of like what to do. But it's this targeted approach thing. When you hear that,
Starting point is 00:46:22 that's them saying, we don't want to cut the fucking checks to support people so we're going to do this other thing that allows the corporate donor class to continue to make money because we also can't freak them out and also we don't want to say lockdown because then that invites right-wing outrage which uh democrats are it's like they're boogeyman like they they can't stand when republicans don't like them it's so fucked up wow it's all it really is awful here isn't it i'm so sorry to hear this it's such it's such an eye-opener to hear because it's like you you know you just see
Starting point is 00:46:59 things for your friends instagram or stuff and it's like you hear every now and then like you know different things being shared but it's like hearing it you know like this through um through zoom it's just really eye-opening like just how horrendous yeah well and it's just it's just revealing how awful and toxic and barbaric the culture is of governance and just american culture writ large but on the on the bright side there is like uh i mean there's to look for bright side like the the i feel like the general consciousness around mutual aid and the interest in the collective in the u.s has just really i mean for sure yeah which is the same in the uk as well like the way that especially in london people don't know their neighbors and now people starting to know their
Starting point is 00:47:51 neighbors yeah and my my grandmother actually she lived through um well she was evacuated during the war and she's still alive now and she's saying about how this reminds her of that camaraderie during the war where it's just people look out for each other because it's kind of you just have to yeah it's like it that's what gives me comfort it is it is like general human nature to want to help each other and it's truly like the unfortunately the problem are the people who are in control yeah because they're living a different reality you know like they're they're not in a situation where they are going to have to humble themselves and ask for help or extend a hand to someone else. They're
Starting point is 00:48:32 surrounded by other people who are materially very comfortable. And so none of these things are going to reach them. So their understanding of it is abstract to the point that it's just exacerbating all of their failures in general. So stay tuned for more. But, yeah, it is true. Like, I'm heartened to see, especially in a city like L.A. where I'm like, man, everybody's in their cars. Nobody gives a fuck about each other. Like, at least in New York, you're walking on the street and like near people and on a subway.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Yeah. Hey, I'm walking here in New York. But here we're driving here and ignoring each other and you might not even know who the fuck anyone is but i am there it has been a lot of outpouring of support like you know my neighbors have like just they're putting like more things out for people like you can see in parts of the city where it's like hey we know the city might not be coming through with aid but there's ways we can help with shelter or food or whatever, or just refrigerators popping up. That's another thing that's happening in the country of these stocked refrigerators.
Starting point is 00:49:32 The community fridges. That's so nice. It's been really cool because now it's becoming a city program as well. of like today they're they're starting to you know widen the program but it was started by regular people who were just like maintaining fridges because there has been such a such you know there there was such a big issue with a rising unhoused population here anyways and food security yeah and so it's like when that was exacerbated by the pandemic it's like just regular people stepped up and i'm glad i'm glad it's becoming a bigger program i mean do i think that the you know city and state government are going
Starting point is 00:50:09 to take all the fucking credit of course they will but it was a people-driven project and now it's actually getting some funding and some some you know hopefully some financing behind it i mean i remember i remember when mayor garcetti's father gil garcetti actually thought thought this up in the 90s and they just hadn't done it yet. But that's that that's what I believe. I think Eric Garcetti thought it up. I would. Oh, my God. Snap that man over my fucking knee.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I like how that guy also can't. He couldn't even get a cabinet position. He was doing all this angling because you knew he wanted. He was so horny for the fucking federal government. And then they're like, hey, you want to be like some outside advisor groupie he's like imagine simping that hard and having everyone in your city absolutely hate you and still accomplish nothing like he's just truly the biggest loser of all time all right um so one thing i do want to just touch on too is uh you know this culture you know, like I can't be stopped no matter what in a pandemic, because I think that's prevalent, I think, in every country.
Starting point is 00:51:11 There's a level of denial that I think people experience because it's it's a very shitty world to think like I'm in a situation where I'm basically very out of control of many different things happening. troll of many different things happening uh and one of that ways that's manifested i think isn't like these people who vacation a lot despite the pandemic like i i've seen this on my own feeds at time to time from time to time like you're in mexico right now like you got on a plane and went to fucking cabo right now when yeah okay that happened a lot in the summer in the UK. I knew a lot of people that went to Spain. And I actually went to Norway because my friend got married during the pandemic. And she just said, well, it's now or never. But Norway was very, like, it was totally, well, it was, like, much, much better than anywhere else. And that was the weirdest situation was being in Norway.
Starting point is 00:52:06 I'm Norwegian. I speak Norwegian. The minute I told them I'd come from the UK, suddenly I was like, everyone ran away from me, dodged out the way. And and but I was just there for a week or so. But that was, yeah, the odd thing. Once I got there, I felt really sick and i was just like oh my god i've gotten sick again off the flight but fortunately i was fine um but yeah that was a thing in the summer there was just that like you say like that denial where everyone was just like
Starting point is 00:52:37 i think we'll be fine it's kind of this summer now you know everyone's healthier in the summer um right it just means this it's warmer outside yeah yeah my full body chills are still happening but like yeah it's this sort of like it's also this like i've never been told no crowd too that is what we're seeing really it's like these are people who have never heard the word no and have never been told they are not allowed to go somewhere. So there's this group. It's got like 5,000 followers on Facebook. And it's like this COVID travelers group is what it's called.
Starting point is 00:53:17 And it's for people to basically avoid persecution for just chasing good vibes during bummer times. So like in this Daily Beast article, they're saying, but there is quote quote nothing safe about this space instead its members are looking for ways to circumvent public health protocols or avoid them altogether members have suggested uh bribing doctors for fake vaccine certificates and forging doctor's notes to avoid wearing a mask one recently compared face coverings to the stars jewish people were forced to wear during the holocaust um and they also just trade tips on like where you can go without having to wear a mask like one user wrote
Starting point is 00:53:52 quote i just arrived in playa del carmen in mexico the place is full of life and easy going no masks if you don't want to wear one get out of europe before you get infected with fear 2020. The thing that really shocked me was when the pandemic was going. I find American media, like when I was still out in L.A., my friend's dad was listening to the news constantly. And I found it so terrifying just constantly hearing. But it was also as everything was developing, you know, just as we were finding everything out and it wasn't until I got to the UK and hearing just the BBC compared to
Starting point is 00:54:30 um the American media it was just such so different like I left LA everyone was wearing face masks in the airport I got to the UK I was the only person wearing a face mask in the airport and people and it was then in the uk where people were um only allowed to wear masks if you had the virus so it's just so interesting just how the the fear in the u.s news was so much more than in the uk um right or but then on the other side too there people be like don't worry it's a hoax so it's like yeah yeah yeah where the fuck are we are pulled is this hell yeah yeah i mean it's like truly if they're not gonna give us another check the least the biden administration can do is just like blow up every facebook server on the fucking planet like what what the a story with a facebook group never ever when has it
Starting point is 00:55:28 ever ended well never no no i mean people have had to do full podcast deep dive investigations oh yeah this is a comical use of air horn i mean genius use of air horn air horn uh i mean you check it out it's my ear and mensa it's just it it does blow my mind though because it's just like facebook is just a place where uh parents get radicalized like that is that is its function at this just for selfish dickheads to trade tips yeah you know what i mean ultimately you can zoom out and it's always just like a place for selfish dickheads you know and they'll figure they they they sort of go off into their corners, whatever specific version of dickheadery it is. Did you say selfish dickheads, Miles?
Starting point is 00:56:08 I think you meant rugged individualists. Watch your language. That was the thing that I was trying to say. It was like the American media was so terrifying, but my friend in L.A. still kept going. I just need to live my life. Like, I just keep like, why can I not live my life? And I was just like, are you freaking kidding me? It really made me aware of, like, the selfish friends.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Let me live my life. It's my life. Oh, COVID. Sure, like, do you, Ma. But, like, it is, I mean, I think it's all levels of how much you want to avoid acknowledging the collective pain our world is experiencing at the moment um and how willing you are to engage with that and feel empathy and sorrow and wanting to envision something better um and then you know they spoke to this guy who started is this german dude who has like a boat
Starting point is 00:57:02 that's like named stateless in germany and he's like this very you know what you can imagine a guy who started a facebook group for people to trade you know underhanded covid travel tips he calls it quote it's a safe space for those people who are bullied in the mainstream and i don't think it's dangerous i think freedom of speech is much more important than dangerous effects evolving from it. Oh, OK. I don't know what the fuck that means. Yeah. That's a lot of words.
Starting point is 00:57:31 It's a lot of words in a row. He posted in the group. He's like, I just spoke to somebody in the Daily Beast and was saying that this is going to be, quote, a great propaganda piece and that the journalist, quote, was not very happy about this safe space. So, yeah, you can say one thing and mean the other. But it's interesting, even in this group, they're not even stoked about the prospect of a fucking vaccine, which I think indicates further that this is just about some my fucking selfish dickheadery sovereign citizen. You can't control me. Government shit. I like dickheadery.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Yeah. You know, it's it, it's something new. It's something I'm trying out. Nice. Ever since Nigella Lawson hit it big with micro-wave, I feel like I need my own take. But yeah, in the group, they did a post being like, how would you feel if there was a vaccine required for travel?
Starting point is 00:58:23 Almost 200 people responded. And the answers were things like quote, hire a private jet, bribe anyone to give me the pass, visit a doctor in the third world with a fistful of good looking cash, uh, create an internal group to document where and how to get a vaccine without actually getting it.
Starting point is 00:58:42 And people who are like on the side of even somewhat reasonable logic and like, yeah, but if you have it, then you won't get sick. Like, what about that though? There's a benefit to getting inoculated against something like this. People were just getting shut down. Uh, like one of the women in the group was pleading with members to not go to Australia, uh, without a vaccine. Like, please like, just don't do don't do it like it's it it only makes sense just for everyone this person was called quote a proud north korean and was informed that we will not get back our freedom and liberty by complying with a fascist regime what does that even what does that even mean like that's so many yeah anyway all right well shut it down shut it down shut the whole fucking thing
Starting point is 00:59:27 down please facebook groups are not serving anybody come on this is the least they can do that's that's a half measure uh from the biden administration that i would be perfectly fine i'm like it's incremental as fuck but at least it's something that was on the list of things i'd like to get done so right right i think they're higher priority things but sure okay at least you did that but okay if you do one thing i would honestly be shocked yeah and then he's like oh meet my uh the president of the treasury jamie jamie diamond from chase bank or some shit anyway it's not gonna be but you know you can see it i mean there's there's plenty of lobbyist swamp tings there's so much i saw much. I saw a clickbait piece that was like,
Starting point is 01:00:07 do you think a woman could run the VA? I'm like, well, if she's evil, probably she could. She's a ghoulish capitalist who's willing to undercut the benefits for veterans. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Honestly, it could be a fucking robot.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Working on that story right now? We found plenty of women who are willing to screw over veterans so don't worry about it they're like but diversity oh you're gonna you're gonna vote against a woman it's like no you're just diversifying the the face of oppression that's all you're doing it's not a different it's not progress all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and take shots at Disneyland. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds, Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists, but the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist.
Starting point is 01:01:10 I mean, my reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:01:42 This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore.
Starting point is 01:02:27 The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:03:07 What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people.
Starting point is 01:03:23 There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 01:03:37 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance. It's tradition. It's a dance. It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Santos! Santos! Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. And we're back.
Starting point is 01:04:49 And Disneyland. I mean, our Disney World, rather. Because we live in a fascist state of California where they're doing things like not allowing Disneyland to open despite the pleas of all the annual pass holders at the gates in Anaheim, which is the cringiest shit you've ever seen. Oh, my God. The most embarrassing. pass holders at the gates in Anaheim, which is the cringiest shit you've ever seen. Oh my God. I enjoyed Disneyland, but that was the most embarrassing protest I've ever
Starting point is 01:05:10 seen in my life. It was a bunch of dads in goofy ears being like, come on! Bring back the magic! Bring back the magic! And you're like, we need to regress here. Sir, you are 50 years old. Disney World, on the other hand, in the great sunshine state of florida headed
Starting point is 01:05:27 up by governor ron de santis they um they've been actually expanding their guest capacity so they were going at 25 and i think we remember when disneyland opened there's like that viral moment where like though like one of these women was like experiencing cold symptoms and they're like i think this woman has covid and is at disney world without a mask um that was sort of our first sort of insights into what this place looked like and it was very creepy they've along with that commercial too that was like welcome back to the magic and it just looked like hell yeah it's like okay the magic of denial i guess sure the magic of dissociation yeah seriously and um now that like the things are increasing people are sort of like uh that's not the best thing i mean like the state of florida is currently like getting completely thrashed by
Starting point is 01:06:19 covid as well but um last week all four of disney world's parks reached capacity like enough people were like yo we're down with this shit and they're letting us in that every time they're like hey we're at capacity no more uh which is very frightening um and a lot of people again you got people congregating uh in a theme park you know it, it was like, are they wearing masks? We don't really know what's really happening in here. It turns out that, um, even though like it might not be safe, Disney's really going all in on making things look safe. Uh, even if it isn't. So if guests aren't wearing masks on rides, the park has been digitally adding masks to their photo pass pictures so like if you're on splash mountain or whatever any of those rides are like you get the photo if you don't have a mask on they've been digitally adding the fucking masks to the faces and they're so arc they're so archaic
Starting point is 01:07:20 it's like it looks like how you do it in like if there was like a iphone app that was just like mask app like drag a mask over anyone's face that's what they're making they're making they're like employees who are putting themselves in an unsafe position in the first place to have to go back to work they're making people do that yeah well because first they're making they would be like do that they're saying we can't actually give you your photo because you weren't wearing a mask on it. And they were first denying people the photos for not having a mask on because it was proof that Disneyland doesn't give a fuck. I kind of love the idea also like some of these Disney rides where you get like splashed water in the face. Like the idea of breathing a wet mask.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Yeah. Like why would you put yourself through that? Or just like, you know, the act of being on a roller coaster where you're like having that like someone in the front is yelling and you're like inhaling their scream oh yeah whatever i mean look you're missing the point here it's about the magic though you know what i mean yeah so they're not i guess this is where it gets kind of in the weeds on like mask rules because i know that florida doesn't have good policies but like when you're on like disney property can't they just say you have to yeah absolutely can you absolutely then how are the how is this happening because they're all you know they're they're they're a capitalist enterprise so like it behooves you to not upset anyone and just be like i don't know man as long
Starting point is 01:08:49 as that till is has money popping off in it i don't give a fuck what people are doing here and they really don't because they're so secretive right disney's so like you're not gonna know how fucked up it is here i mean because they've said no outbreaks have been traced um to like any of the disney parks but there's like no comprehensive contract contact tracing so i don't know how you would have done it anyway so it's it's hard to say like what has happened and disney's also declined on many occasions to say how many of their employees have tested positive um since the resort reopened they're just like like, oh, it's minimal. This is one of the people who is the representatives of like the employees
Starting point is 01:09:30 that quote, we've had very few and none, as far as we can tell, have been from work-related exposure. Well, that's, and on top of that, like, I don't know. I mean, I just genuinely don't know this information, but like if you do have COVID, does the company take care of you? Or would it behoove you to not tell your employer if you think you might have covid and going to work anyways because i feel like that is such a huge source of spread is people who are not getting any support from the government and may not be getting support from their place of
Starting point is 01:09:57 work if they do get sick so then you know it's like they still have to pay their rent because there's blah blah blah i don't know, blah. I don't know. Sorry. I mean, but this is how- Auntie Jamie's spiraling again. No, but Auntie Jamie is looking into Sauron's shitty eye of how the system works. And like, they've done this shit before, like in Anaheim at Disneyland in 1999, a park goer was struck by like a flying piece of metal
Starting point is 01:10:22 and killed, like killed, well, they were killed by up yes this happened at the park and disneyland called the fucking paramedics but not the police and they cleaned up the fucking mess and the the police only found out because the paramedics like yo um we just picked up a fatality here over at disneyland and they're like what they didn't call us and they got there and they're like what happened they're like oh we cleaned it up and they're like, what? They didn't call us. And they got there and they're like, what happened? They're like, oh, we cleaned it up. And they're like, what are you fucking talking about? Yeah. Like, we needed
Starting point is 01:10:49 to invest. Uh-huh. And technically it's not illegal what they did, but that just shows you the culture of like, just fucking clean it up, man. Don't fucking tell anybody. Don't call the fucking cops. We can't get shut down. Shut up, you fucking snitch. What the fuck you doing? Fuck.
Starting point is 01:11:07 That's so... What a doing fuck what a treat what a treat and just one last treat I want to go out on actually is just Jamie and I we were talking about what it was like to work at Playboy back in the day and I don't know if this was on mic we did this but we worked at Playboy we actually worked there at the same time
Starting point is 01:11:24 and weren't even friends. It's a shame. Although I knew of you because everyone was saying, she's a comedian. And I was like, what? There's someone funny here? Get away from me, Matt Shirley. No one talked to me. Yeah, we should have been friends at Playboy.
Starting point is 01:11:36 No one talked to me. Well, you were in a weird part of the office. It was a weird time. The company was having a bit of trouble figuring out their toxic identity the non-nude age yeah uh and were you guys like at hefner's house or uh we got to go to the mansion for like staff party when you got to go i didn't oh you didn't go did i tell you i got terribly drunk and walked into a glass wall my sister snuck into uh hugh hefner's house on um valentine's day yeah and met his son and they were just hanging out connor um i'm not sure which one yeah if it wasn't connor he's like roughly yeah yeah he's
Starting point is 01:12:16 the one running it now he's on it he was the guy that stole my cake when he was on a segue it was like the day that i got laid off and my boss was like here's a cake because i got laid off on my birthday and they got me a birthday slash goodbye cake that was really depressing and then hugh hefner's son rolled in on his segue obviously like i had no idea who he was and he was just like hey what's uh whose birthday is it can i have a piece of cake and he just rolled away and then he fell so it's good taking off with your cake and your health insurance uh but yeah there so the reason i bring it up is because every like six three to six months the online store the playboy magazine online store would just have a free-for-all
Starting point is 01:12:58 of shit nobody wanted and the staff could go and like pick from the bones of like the online store and get like a t-shirt or beer cozies or high-heeled sneakers in jamie's case that she so lovingly took um but i just want to just i just point this out because the state department had a holiday party uh on tuesday or super spreader event whatever the fuck you want to call it but i just want to point out what the gift bags were at this State Department holiday party. Quote, this is from the Washington Post reporting of this State Department party. Amid the poinsettias, chandeliers, and meticulously decorated Christmas trees,
Starting point is 01:13:34 children on Tuesday night received Be Best branded swag, such as backpacks, frisbees, and water bottles from First Lady Melania Trump's signature anti-bullying and wellness initiative. The State Department has a stockpile of Be Best merchandise that is often handed out when the First Lady travels abroad. In the absence of a second Trump term, officials need to find a home for the surplus gear, one official said. The official said, quote, it's time to get rid of the leftovers. That does sound like a playboy giveaway yeah well this is the worst this is a bad idea come and get it we got it here oh my friend what a treat my friend was like um asking me if i had any tattoos and i was like i changed my mind so
Starting point is 01:14:20 often i was like i'd be one of those people that would get a Playboy tattoo and regret it. And when I said that, her boyfriend pulled up his sleeve and he had a Playboy tattoo. And I was like, I'm sure yours is great. I mean, it's the most recognized logo on Earth. It's the most recognized logo on Earth. No matter where you go.
Starting point is 01:14:40 When someone has an embarrassing tattoo that is also very large, there's almost nothing funnier in the world. I like ran into my high school boyfriend. This sounds fake, but it was real. I ran into my first high school boyfriend a couple years after he had dumped me for the saxophone. Sounds like Whiplash, that movie. Sounds like that movie This Christmas.
Starting point is 01:15:03 He left you for his music career? He did leave me for jazz. Was he Quentin Senior? Okay. It was Quentin Senior. He left me for jazz. But then I saw him a couple years later, and he had a huge tattoo of foghorn leghorn on his bicep.
Starting point is 01:15:18 And he was like, my uncle got it too. It was a little thing me and my uncle did. He had a huge cartoon rooster. I said, I said, I said, I said, what the fuck? You got a foghorn leghorn tattoo? Yes, I swear to God. He had a huge foghorn leghorn tattoo. And then it was great for me because I was like, well, this breakup actually was perfect.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Yeah, like validation, validation. Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah, a huge foghorn. Just someone that- Just out of nostalgia? You put your mouth on this person and then now they have a foghorn leghorn tattoo. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:49 I just Googled foghorn leghorn. Now I get the joke. Not okay. Just an odd one. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. That is odd.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Well, what can you do? But, you know, let's move on to nicer things. And with that, Katya, the nicer thing is thanking you for joining us on this magical journey today thanking you guys and i'm hoping that you recover swiftly and i know things are still lingering and it's really it's i know it's yeah it's tough i kept trying to hide my cough i just would like turn my head oh yeah don't worry that's yeah thoughts and prayers real ones real ones the real ones. The real ones. The real kinds.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Katya, where can people find you and follow you? And what's the tweet that you like? So I'm on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, at Katya Kvanger, K-A-T-I-A, K-V-A-N-G-E. I often have to spell it. It's like sometimes in the UK I have to do it phonetically, like K for kilo v for victor i forget indigo all right for november g for golf if echo in america they're like what and for nancy
Starting point is 01:16:50 not november yeah indigo what the fuck was that very classy spell up yeah what's why what do you guys do i for in the u.s oh i don't know for well if we're using the NATO alphabet, I think is what it's called. G for God. I think it's India. E for everybody. E for gun. I think it's India. My mom used to do-
Starting point is 01:17:12 Oh, yeah, India. My mom used to do L-O-F as in Frank, T-U-S as in Sam. That was how she would, which is kind of icky. Sierra. Yeah. Tango, uniform, Victor victor whiskey x-ray i remember being like so like i had a kid's almanac that had that as a fact and i was like oh shit now i know what they're talking about yeah and i'll impress my vet teacher my veteran teacher and they'll be
Starting point is 01:17:38 like okay cool kid uh is there a tweet that you're liking? Yeah, I saw. Well, actually, it's more on Instagram. Can I do that? Yeah, absolutely. No, no, we're not tied to any social media. I just followed this account. It was called Influencers in the Wild, which is now the joy of my life.
Starting point is 01:18:01 It's so funny. It was this guy. He's out in a field. He finds this. Sorry, this must be so annoying me laughing and i haven't even said what it is but um he finds like what looks like a corn dog and it's like this natural plant and he bites into it as if it's a corn dog and it's just like the amount of like whatever like fluff from this plant comes out of his mouth like it's literally like he's like burning like fire from this i don't know sorry that's probably one of those i should have seen it but there's this other one where this is this girl um she's
Starting point is 01:18:38 some famous tiktok tiktok star or something and so the video is of these fans that approach her going like, hey, can we get a picture? And she's like, yeah, but wait, let me do my TikTok. So they're all stood in a huddle watching her as she's like doing all the like TikTok sexy dance moves. And it's just kind of like the lack of self-awareness that these people have is so funny. Especially like that was, it was really wild during the uprisings that account because they were i remember they were putting people on blast where you know all the black lives matter protests that were happening like a lot of influencer scumbag people were just sort of like up in it for the photo yeah and then like leaving or being like i'm helping to clean up the broken property show
Starting point is 01:19:20 up drunk or like yeah yeah it was all that was they were getting. Yeah, that was bad. They were getting exposed. But yeah, that account is something else. It was like the Kendall Jenner holding up the Black Lives Matter, and then you see in the shadow she's not even got a sign. Yeah. Right? Ridiculous. Well, you know.
Starting point is 01:19:35 So they got the Disneyland treatment is what we call that. Just dumping in some Photoshoppery. Jemay, where can people find you, follow you? What's the tweet? uh jamae where can people find you follow you what's the tweet uh you can you can find me on twitter at jamie loftus help uh or instagram jamie christ superstar listen to lolita podcast um oh and um the bechtel cast is doing a fundraiser with uh dan, Grace Thomas, and Joelle Monique on this Sunday night. We're doing a broadcast live reading of the Santa Claus. And we're raising money for reclaiming and rebuilding communities. So check that out. And the tweet is going to be from my friend Devin Manny, who is also an amazing artist.
Starting point is 01:20:25 He tweeted a screenshot that revealed the news that Ellen DeGeneres tests positive for COVID-19, halts talk show production until January. He captions it, and people say working for Ellen isn't a positive experience. SMDH. Because she made me laugh um that's all um you got some tweets i like ones from uh billy wayne davis at billy wayne davis he's saying yo stupids elon and rogan just moved their quote official residences to texas they still do business and have homes in california they didn't fucking move they bought a house to save money on taxes something about 95 of their fans can't do i would say 99 of most people can't do um yeah i don't think many people will find themselves in a situation of like should i just buy a house
Starting point is 01:21:16 there to save money on taxes that's a fucking another level of uh just hoarding your wealth that people need to be a little more aware of. Another tweet I like is from, actually you, Jamie. You are quote tweeting an article from Discussing Film that says, Christopher Nolan is a huge fan of the Fast and Furious franchise. I've got a very soft spot for Tokyo Drift, actually.
Starting point is 01:21:40 And you tweet, Jamie, this man does a heel turn three times a week. Yeah, it really is. And then you say, everyone in the comments yelling at me for wrestling vocabulary, get a life. Oh my God. Yeah. Whatever. Sorry, it was a face turn. It was a face turn. Whatever. Oh, Jamie hates Tokyo Drift. Obviously, I don't hate Tokyo Drift. I'm not a fool. But also, who cares? No, really. If someone doesn't like a thing you like, that doesn't make you stupid. Because I know that's the insecurity we all feel. If someone's like, I don't like that thing.
Starting point is 01:22:09 You're like, what, you think I'm stupid then? You're like, no, I'm just a different person with you who had a completely different life experience. And my tastes are slightly different. But you can do whatever you want as long as it's not some hateful racist shit. Another tweet I like is from Tanya Golashboza. At Tanya Boza. She tweeted, my teen daughter just asked me if Latinx is a race
Starting point is 01:22:30 or ethnicity. I told her to read chapter 7 of my book, Race and Racisms so we can have an informed discussion. Loving that. Shout out to everybody else out there listening. Just so you know, the dailies, oh, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray
Starting point is 01:22:46 in case you were wondering, and also the other podcast, 420 Day Fiance. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio, so for more content, check out the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. And also
Starting point is 01:23:02 we've got a website, Facebook fan site. Website is dailyzeitgeist.com where we post the episodes and footnotes. Footnotes. Thank you very much. Where we have the footnotes and the song we write out on.
Starting point is 01:23:15 The song we are about to write out on is from Shamana and it's called SoundCloud. It's just got a blown out soundcloud beat and it's just basically a grimy remix uh but it's just got i don't know it feels like soundcloud and it also kind of goes so you know slap this in your car into the weekend uh soundcloud by shamana all right until then we'll see you later for some trends. Bye. I've been getting money, I ain't worried about what you do. I'm getting money.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unnerves the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere
Starting point is 01:24:40 starting September 25th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do.
Starting point is 01:25:00 What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister, or is history repeating itself? There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Curious about queer sexuality, cruising, and expanding your horizons?
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