The Daily Zeitgeist - Big Strike Energy, United States of Jan 6th 10.15.21

Episode Date: October 15, 2021

In episode 1009, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and writer Ellory Smith to discuss the new Jan. 6th flag, how power operates, big strike energy and more!FOOTNOTES: Trump Rally/Youngkin Rally pledged allegiance to a flag from Jan 6 How Power Operates Part 2 Big Strike Energy LISTEN: Kali Uchi and SZA - Fue Mejor Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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if we take a single day off. I can't say the episode number confidently because I'm like, episode four, but it's Friday. Anyways, a little window behind the curtain there. This is a podcast where you take a deep dive. A window behind the curtain

into the behind the scenes of the curtain. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into american shared consciousness miles it is friday october 15 2021 which of course means that it is national shawarma day national i love lucy day national grouch day yeah now that is what the fuck i'm talking about a little old old man energy a little old live in a garbage can i think it's something to do with like think from the sesame street people that got this day on board or something been celebrated since 76 national grouch day

that was one of the things i tried to get my son to be for halloween instead of a trash truck was oscar the grouch because he lives in a trash can right like now oscar the grouch sucks dad which is not true but i'm working on him anyways uh my name is jack o'brien aka here we pod again not alone getting loud about some stoves that run on coal Like a hipster I was born to dress in wool But I've made up my mind I gotta record some more zeit So here I pod again That is courtesy of Johnny Davis And I am thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host

Mr. Miles Gray! I said I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! I said, I am weed. I am weed. I am weed. I am weed. Yes, Megan Fox. I smell like weed because I am weed. Wow.

That just occurred to me this morning. And that's to me. Shout out to me. And shout out to Molly Lambert. Molly Lambert. Amazing article. We're like, yo, Molly wrote that shit. Right when we got off. As Anna Hosni.

She was like, ah, yeah. You guys talked about Molly's article. I was like, huh? But amazing work by Molly Lambert. Hopefully we can have her on to talk about what really went on in that article but yeah what the fuck i'm still not over it and if he smokes mids you know what kind of weed is mgk smoking what if he just smokes the worst trash he smokes like cbd she was smoking a cbd joint at one point he was she was oh megan fox during the thing yeah megan fox i guess it was the prep

for the tattoo so yeah i i guess i i shouldn't act like that's a big deal she isn't weed he is weed so right right but that's what i mean because if he was all cbd too if yeah no because then i'd be like wait what that means you don't like any kind of psychoactive anything you're just like i just like the act of smoking this neutral plant. I actually like the synthetic stuff you can get from the gas station. Yeah, Spice K1. You down with that? Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat once again, way too long, by a comedian and writer who has written for Adult Swim's Robot Chicken

and hosts the hilarious Los Angeles-based comedy show Funalingus with past guests Dana Donley and Pallavi Ganalan. Please welcome the hilarious and talented Ellery Smith! Hi, thank you so much for having me. Oh my God, thank you for being back. Been too long. Been too long. Since we were just looking back, the last episode you're on is 2019 i mean it was so long ago we were talking about havana syndrome that's

you remember that story it's been lasted one week since i talked about what what's new with you you're still in la you're still still in la i didn't leave at all okay i had nowhere to go so i roughed it out the whole time here. Just spent a lot of time at home with my cat. Yeah. Any new, what's new? New hobbies? New desires?

New life revelations? I wanted to learn. I picked up a lot of half hobbies over the pandemic, but two I didn't get to is I wanted to learn the banjo. Didn't happen, but there's still time. And then I think I'm going to get a worm farm. Yes. A worm farm? Yeah. Do you have a yard or no i have a garage like a dark yeah yeah garage i can close but i wouldn't have to keep it in my house but yeah i want like a red wiggler worm farm what's that it's just a

farm it's like a box of worms i hang out and they eat your leftovers and they make like really nutrient rich soil for your house plants right right and then is it like an ant farm where like you can kind of watch them like you can watch from the top but they need like they live like in the dirt so they need darkness have you heard of these things miles worms have you heard about them i don't even really know if they're our worms bugs our worms bugs right i think they're actually vegetables because they don't have seeds if my understanding is correct i mean invertebrates at best is the thing i will stake my claim on like land crustaceans yeah yeah they ain't got no exoskeleton though

yeah they're no and that's what people come to hear this show for science background i was in a writer's room once and i told everybody that ducks were mammals and i didn't hear the end of it for like two weeks well did you have like a nickname because of it no they would just keep bringing it up and i'd be like listen guys i was addicted to whippets in high school. I'm not bringing brain power to the table. I'm just a fun personality. Now, if you want to start talking nangs, then we can start talking. Yeah, exactly.

Ducks kind of are mammals from an impressionistic standpoint. They're some mammal-ass birds, for sure. Yeah, they've got mammal vibes. Wait, why do you think it has a mammal? What's mammal- about to me it's so clearly a bird but what i don't know what it is about it like they just like they i feel like they have fur they they just not like they just seem like they chill around the swamp how do you feel about a swan? Yeah, that's a mammal. Yeah, that might as well be a mammal. Okay, so we're thinking any, like, a bird that is, like, more sort of unique, like, the bill is a little bit different. It's not like a flying, tweety-type bird that you feel like has big mammal energy. It's like a warm-blooded thing.

When I think of, like, snakes or alligators, I'm like, okay, cold-blooded, that's whatever the opposite of a mammal is. That's a bird. A snake is a bird. That's a bird. You know what I mean? That's a bird. Them birds. Yeah. I don't know. Something about duck boots and something about that all just makes them mammals in my brain.

Yeah. They're too associated with L.L. Bean to be not mammals in my brain. But what is a duck boot? That's giving you all this information. Duck boat? Okay.

You know. All right. We're turning this up the station, and I think I'm catching the next one. So I'll see y'all. Now, this is going to be the episode, Miles. We're just going to be riffing on duck items. Right, right. Duck face.

Those are mammals, as far as I can tell. Well, they're because they're humans posing their face jackets. No, it's ducks are mammals. Anyways, Ellery, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about. There was a Trump rally where they pledged allegiance to a flag from January 6th. So we'll talk about how that went. We're going to talk about how power operates in two disparate stories. Adam Schefter,

the NFL woge, like the lesser woge from a shittier league. Insider, NFL insider. Yeah. And then Alex Murdoch, I think is how we're pronouncing it, was charged with hiding settlement money from the kids of the woman he may have murdered. He's the small town, big time attorney who has just generations of corruption. And it's just wild to lift up the rock and see what's going on under there. Worms. Worms.

Yeah. Everywhere. We're going to talk big strike energy we're gonna talk how the january 6th subpoena dodgers are entering uh what is termed in legal circles the find out phase of the uh fuck around and find out uh legal process and i'm calling it today we're talking about a medical condition where you have zero visual imagination this is getting up there as the story I've introduced the most times, and Super Producer Justin has had to cut it out of the intro the most times, or not. Maybe you've all heard me introduce it 15 times, but we're going to fucking talk about it today. You hear all that, plenty more, but first, Ellery, we do like to ask our guest,

what is something from your search history? My most recent search is Hollywood improv food menu. Okay. What's up with that? Well, I think it's, oh, no, it's not good. But it tells you that, like, I'm somebody that plans ahead. Yeah. That I support live comedy and that I'm willing to spend, like, $18 on a hamburger when I live five minutes away.

Wow. What's the best thing to eat there? I wouldn't recommend any of it, but have you just gone down the list to find the most tolerable offering? You basically, I get, they have a impossible burger that's serviceable. And then the last time I was there, the door guy let me finish his fries and so that was a nice free meal yeah nice love it love it I love a spare set of fries absolutely if you're going to the trash can instead definitely yeah or look and I've said this before I'm I've thrown out fries and be like you know what actually I don't let me get back in there if it's your personal trash can that's fine and it's in a container it didn't touch any other trash and it's on top look i'm all for it i'm just being efficient wait look all these food service

industry workers want to complain about unfair wages but what they don't talk about is the free fries that was the one thing that made my one very short-lived waiting job bearable was that they had really good fries that I worked at a donut shop this summer and we got a new manager towards the end of my tenure there and he yelled at me for eating the tater tots. Motherfucker. Yeah. Like, why do you think

I work here, asshole? Well, also, I was making the tater tots. It's like you do have to test them to see if they're okay. Yeah. As long as you're not eating them straight out the basket or something, you know, you're not doing a health code violation. Scam them. Unless that's the thing. He's like, Ellery, please stop reaching into the deep fryer and just pulling out.

Nothing wrong with that. It burns hot. You hold out your hand. Hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot. You get used to it. Your fingertips burn off and then you stop. Right, right, right. Like you're in the men in black.

Yeah. You get used to it. Your fingertips burn off and then you stop. Right, right, right. Like you're in the men in black. Yeah. I do wish any like somebody had told me at like as I was entering the workforce that like 90 percent of the jobs exist so that somebody has the ability to like be mean to somebody else. Like a manager has the ability to like belittle someone so they feel a little bit better and that they're like always wrong because we were manager lists for this is sort of like a saga but we were without a manager for

quite a few months and everything was totally fine and it really sort of exposed the fact that like managers are mostly there for organizational stuff yeah and to like make sure you're wearing your uniform but we literally went like four minutes four months without a manager and nothing happened yeah right and they're like well no i still need to add someone that i pay a lot more in your uniform. But we literally went like four months without a manager and nothing happened. Yeah. Right. And they're like, well, no, I still need to add someone that I pay a lot more than the rest of y'all to make sure this works, despite the evidence that it's working

without it. Well, we all quit as soon as he hired. There you go. Flex it. And that is the system working. You hire your manager and then everybody quits and you're like, this is a good manager. He really holds it down. You know, what was a good donuts?

Were you were you happy with the quality of donuts that you were? Donuts rocked. I would eat a lot of donuts for sure. Yeah. I just saw that video on TikTok of that like that Duncan worker who was showing how much donuts they throw out at the end of the day. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

We throw out a lot of unfrosted donuts, we were able to donate a few too right right right and but like but when you see things like they're like god there's just so there's so much waste there really is and there are so many but i also used to work at trader joe's and just to see the stuff that we would throw out and like not be able to donate because it was like sort of a liability for the company was really like one of the things that radicalized me for sure right right and you're like because of some weird liability thing like this isn't expired exactly protect ourselves just have to protect us yeah and then we could ever yeah and then we would lock the dumpster we put padlocks on the dumpsters yeah people couldn't go back in yeah it crazy. Throw it out and protect the trash.

Yes, because they're so worried that somebody could get sick and sue. You'd hope that at the very least there wouldn't be a law that like, if you are at a point where you're eating

out of the trash can that couldn't be frivolous about suing somebody, but I don't know. Like, because that's all the worry. It's like, but it's this liability thing.

It's a cool system. Overall, it's a cool system that we have. Very good. No holes to be found. Wait, so you work. Yo, do they make y'all say at Trader Joe's like to compliment the shit that people buy? I see those tweets now and it's really funny to think about. But no, I think they just hire.

First of all, I think that they hire really like somebody in a regular world would be really annoying. But at Trader Joe's do you know what i mean like i worked with a lot of really annoying sort of like high personality people right but i genuinely think they just they look for people who are like good at small talk friendly you know so it's sort of like they you know also when i was working there i had i like i worked there actually with my mom like through high school and then i worked there through college and it was like a little performance you know what I mean like you get it was sort of like doing stand-up and like the customers expect that too interesting oh so it's more of an energetic sort of thing yeah it's definitely an energy and also you're not a lot

like I feel like that was one of the few jobs where if I was having like a somber day customers really noticed because what's wrong like, what's wrong? Oh, there was this drilling outside my house and I thought that was a reaction to that. It sounded like a plane going over. No, no, I was pretending to be a Trader Joe's customer. Yikes. Yeah, but I feel like at that job specifically

because like the tenor is so upbeat always. If you have like a medium day, customers are really like, smile more. Gotta imagine like... The thing that everybody loves to hear is yeah exactly smile more can you give us any of your trader joe's material from your like stand-up days working the oh trader joe's i can't even really remember it now it's so far away but there was a bunch of basically just yeah dealing with customers was yeah also there's sort of like a a rumor or a mythos around trader joe's that it's like healthy food because there's bamboo paneling like in all the stores right but it's it's not

it's healthy yeah oh also they're they're reduced guilt at least this was true when i worked there they're like reduced guilt meals. It's the same food, just less. Oh, wow. You get a smaller serving, but nothing is different about the recipe. That is a window behind the scenes, behind the curtain of Trader Joe's that you only get

from the Daily Zeitgeist. T-R-A-I-T-O-R. As we call it. Trator. That's a good name for a podcast. We got to do it. Because Trader Joe's, I remember they were one of the only brands that had a podcast for a long time. Yeah.

They were like, the Trader Joe's podcast, where you just go and listen to people talk about how fucking lit Trader Joe's is. TJ's. Yeah, yeah. What is something you think is overrated, Ellery? So, I have two i said all right sweater weather kind of overrated it's good for a week and then i'm like i'm not into it and then really original halloween costumes i think are overrated because they're fun but really original really original yes exactly here's exactly what i think

about it because good ones are really good but some of them are too niche which means you're explaining yourself all night and then we're we need to like normalize lazy halloween costumes yeah we're all busy i don't want to buy a bunch of stuff you're never going gonna wear any of that shit again no no absolutely not i mean i like the last time i really did it up for halloween i like my friend who has like a costume house i was like can i borrow like a holster and like that was it and then i was like this is too much this is too much effort i remember when i could just put on a basketball uniform and just say, I'm basketball guy. Give me some candy. Yeah. The Halloween costume industry. So long way of getting to agreeing with you, but I had recently heard from somebody like that their friend is like this billionaire who just looks at various industries and is like oh that is a thing that is like 40

years old that nobody's refreshed so they're the person behind the brand method because they looked at like those like soap and like the shit that you buy in the uh like houseware section of grocery store and was like this all looks like shit and looks like it was designed in the 70s and so ever since they told me that i've been trying to think of like what is the other thing that is that and like halloween costumes fucking suck man they're like so bad like halloween costume stores like what why is that that we that they seem to be more creative because i feel like we're kind of a lot of people like we get pigeonholed into like monsters heroes sexy stuff and like memes and you should just be able to be like super esoteric with it like

maybe like to the point where you know you're saying Ellery like if it's niche fuck explaining it to somebody it's like it's Halloween you know I'm just whatever the fuck I want to if I want to wear three sets of pajamas all at once I'm gonna do that your pajamas Sam I do think it's one of the few industries where you really bump up against IP so like you're like we've all seen those tweets that are like instead of Wednesday Addams it's like Monday Jones or something like that right yeah uh Blake from Workaholics was talking about on their show, This is Important, that he found a costume that was his, like a wig and a tie, like his uniform from Workaholics. And it was like, lazy stoner guy from work.

Yeah, Blork, lazy stoner guy from work guy from working. That's so funny. It'd be awful if they just like roasted you just being like ugly frizzy haired. Right. Right. Yeah. Look, it's Blork from Job Addict. I mean, that's what they should do. Absolutely. I think maybe that's just funnier is getting wild, like dancing the fine line of IT. Getting so close. You're like, dude, no, this is Blork from Job Addicts. Who's Blake from Workaholics? Maybe we need to sue them.

Wait, the sweater weather thing, though. Explain, because aren't you from the Northeast? Aren't you from New York? I am. Good memory. Yeah. New York I I am good memory yeah and even there like I sort of miss seasons but there's nothing as uncomfortable to me as being cold and then also I'll argue that like sweater weather fall weather you need like a sweater in the morning by afternoon it's 75 degrees yeah and all those

layers don't make sense and then as soon as the sun goes down it's like 40 right and so it's like you're experiencing like three different outfit needs in one day yeah especially in los angeles for sure trying to dress a kid for school like on like my son went to school today and like a heavy sweater and shorts because i was just like i don't fucking know and that's what it'll be gone by the afternoon and you'll never see it again. It'll just get pulled off at school and I'll stay there. Plus, in high school, junior high and stuff, I never brought a jacket to school

unless it was raining. I wore a hoodie at most. To never wear a jacket? That's such a teenage thing in my life, too. Yeah, just being stupid because you're like, whatever. The morning will be cold and then you'll get in the class and then by nutrition, it's more bearable. And plus, like, I would always forget my jackets in class.

Yeah, how do you carry something around? Yeah. What are you, a white kid from Massachusetts? The cold doesn't bother me. The cold is just a state of mind, dude. I'm talking about when he's 68. Yeah, they will walk outside in shorts and a t-shirt and be like, nah, dude, this is nothing. And mass, it's like we're in New York.

We're like probably the same latitude. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated, I have mid-morning movies. Like a 10 a.m. to an 11 a.m. movie. Oh, I love that. Oh, shit. Like going to the movie theater? Like going to the movie, seeing like the first movie that you can that day.

Like when I had MoviePass, RIP, I have the AMC Pass now, but I would get so stoned and just see like the earliest movie I could. And I had the rest of the day to myself. It was like the perfect sort of morning.'d like bring a coffee in wow like you're reading the paper yeah yeah exactly i haven't i don't think i've ever been to the first showing of like a film i feel like i've been to a mad like i think the earliest i've ever been to something like noon noon is operable but it's so in the middle of the day that it sort of takes a chunk out. I feel like doing it first thing,

you have the rest of the day. It's also sort of like a slow wake up. So by the time you're back out, the world is on. That's such a good idea. I'm going to quit this job, Jax. I'm going to start doing that. It's definitely a luxury of the unemployed, for sure. We can just change when we record.

I want to start doing it too. That sounds, I want to do it too. It's meditative. I highly recommend it. Bong Joon-ho, like you're the second person I've heard talk about like morning movies in the last week. He was talking about how he wakes up at five every morning and watches a movie, which is the director of Parasite.

Yeah, the director of Parasite wakes up like and watches one to two is the director of parasite yeah the director of parasite wakes up like and watches one to two movies before his day starts oh interesting which i'm like man that's like you always hear about people like waking up and like writing or like doing you know something productive i like the idea of just being like nah this is my favorite thing in the world to do so it's also it's also productive you know what productive yeah and for someone who's a filmmaker it's probably incredibly stimulating and inspiring definitely just like if you're a musician like you need to like you need to listen to other shit to be like oh shit now i'm getting fucking ideas so exactly but i wonder how he chooses like does he just does he have like a list that he goes? Oh, I'm sure he has the longest list. He's like, oh, I haven't seen Senseless with Marlon Wayans and David Spade yet.

I love that. When you listen to like cinephiles talk, you realize that there's like, you could keep watching great movies like from now until the time you died. So many. I kind of like imagining watching him watch like What's the Worst That Could Happen? Like the Danny DeVito, Martin Lawrence crossover movie. Yeah.'s like i'm gonna i'm gonna steal that yeah exactly i like really bad movies like on for i love a bad movie oh yeah right he's like parasite was actually i got inspired after i watched the film of joe's apartment all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about a story that we could have talked about the last time you were on Ellery, a Trump rally. Have you guys heard about these?

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sort of solid indicator of how political candidates are going to fare in the Biden era, especially given like the flippy floppy like platform not being, you know, voted into reality at all. And, you know, while the California recall could have been consequential on a political level, and obviously for anyone who lives in the state, California is just reliably blue, unlike Virginia. So they're like, no, this is this is going to give us a real kind of an eye into maybe what midterms look like or what Democrats are up against, Republicans are up against. And Glenn Youngkin is the Republican running against Terry McAuliffe. And he is like, you know, he's a businessman. He's mostly self-funded, but he's also got you know, he's got some some people helping out. And he's running this like kind of campaign where he's having to half embrace Trump, but can't go full MAGA because suburban and independent voters. And so he's doing this like very like, I'll talk about having voter integrity on my website, but not go full big lie ish all the time. Like he's just trying to have it every way possible.

Like he's just trying to have it every way possible. And there was a rally for him that was hosted by Steve Bannon on Wednesday. And Trump phoned in to like just fucking rant and rave. But the fucking thing kicked off with a pledge of allegiance that, you know, they said, well, oh, this flag is special that we're going to pledge allegiance to. That was quote, they said, quote, was carried at the peaceful rally with donald j trump on january 6th wow they all said their salute to their fucking whatever and yunkin was smart enough to not show up at this thing apparently he's like he's like he was in no show because i think a lot of people were like yo you're out of fucking they just prayed to the january 6th flag like is this what you want to tell your suburban voters so then you know i think that made a lot

of news and like you know obviously mccullough is like you're are you going to condemn this uh but i doubt that's going to happen because he can't piss off the maga world so yeah it's just been a lot of interesting things happening and then earlier earlier in the day, Wednesday, Trump put out this fucking weird statement. He keeps saying this shit about like how Republicans won't vote or shouldn't vote like in the midterms or like they're not. Oh, you better watch out. They're not going to vote. He said this is in a statement he made because he doesn't have Twitter. Quote, If we don't solve the presidential election fraud of 2020, which we have thoroughly and conclusively documented.

And as an aside, which has been thoroughly and conclusively debunked. Yeah. Quote, Republicans will not be voting in 22 or 24. It is the single most important thing for Republicans to do. OK, then don't vote. I mean, really mixed messaging on that. Yeah, it's that's what I'm like. I don't know what the problem this exactly solved for him, unless the plan is to completely get the GOP in the base off of the idea that voting is a concept that is an objective good.

I mean, I think that that is sort of a false premise because it anticipates that he's playing 40 chess and has some plan and it is entirely possible that he just doesn't know how to make a he's like not thinking about what that message actually means right but so that's why i'm like i don't know because i mean increasingly right with all the voter restriction if you can get at least half of the country to say like well votes don't really matter then when half when the other half is saying the election was stolen it's less of a powerful statement to them maybe just for their own perception it's less like it's an easier them, maybe just for their own perception. It's less like it's an easier sell. Yeah, because then half you're like, dude, voting is fucking rigged anyway.

And just get over it. Trump's the winner, man. Shut up. I mean, that might be true. But if if they sit out as a demographic, it would really hurt the party. Yeah, which is that's what I'm like. Or again, like to your point, if he's not playing for DHS, he's just dumb. And he thinks of voting like it's a Nike store.

And you could just boycott the shit until you get what you want. Until it gets better. I mean, that did work. Do you remember when Nike was a company and then they supported Colin Kaepernick? And now, I mean, those people cut up their socks. Yeah. And now you got dr dray and eminem and mary j blight's doing the fucking halftime show for god knows why but it shows

you how quick people change on that shit right i thought people had caps back but guess not this reminds me of this story about like that there was a anti-vax mob that stormed a hospital like because of these like fascist leaders it was in rome though and like over there they these people are in a separate party and like that party doesn't have power and i i just feel like they're we're at a point where you know like he would in any other system that wasn't like forcing everything into this like two-party situation like he would in any other system that wasn't like forcing everything into this like two-party situation like he would be his own party and like there's just the the shit can't hold like there there's just too many like different directions that the party wants to go i think they're

ultimately going to follow him which is the scary part but like that that's why the two-party system is so scary is because like he has the energy behind him and so like they're just all gonna fucking bow they're gonna pledge to the this january 6th flag uh and they're gonna nod to the old-fashioned salute that kids used to do to the flag during the pledge in classrooms. Have you ever seen that picture of like the kids there? They're all doing the Nazi salute to the American flag, like before Nazis were a thing. That's how people used to say the pledge.

I don't give them fucking ideas. Did you see the video? Well, actually we were doing that before the Nazis. Right. Yeah. Two things. Firstly, pledging

allegiance is one of those things like specifically at like a campaign rally or something that if anybody on the right saw it in north korea they'd be like indoctrination that's crazy and then secondly did you see the video of the dude from smash mouth doing the nazi salute on like at a concert it was it was like this week it was you should look it up is that why he's leaving the band is he leaving the band yeah yeah he's leaving and he looks forward to being a smash mouth fan a fan of the band just from the sidelines going so not that must be why because that video just went viral like last weekend oh that makes sense because yeah after chaotic retires after chaotic on stage rant as as the New York Post describes it.

Absolutely how the Post would put it. What was he saying as he was doing the Nazi salute? I don't know. I was listening to it on mute. I wasn't interested in hearing any Smash Mouth music. That's a very good point. That was good mental health care. There's so many good videos of that guy.

Whoa. The video taken by a patron of the festival shows harwell slurring his speech and forgetting lyrics during the band's performance dropping a beer can into the crowd raising two middle fingers into the air and at one point displaying what appears to be a nazi salute quote i'll fucking kill your whole family i swear to god harwell appears to yell at one member of the audience later in the set. I mean, we've seen this behavior from him before when they were throwing bread at Smash Mouth. And it's an amazing video if you can find it

because he leaves the stage while the band is... The band has already started riffing the beginning of All Star, but he leaves the stage to go fight this person for throwing bread, and they're just right there like as you hear he's still on mike be like fuck you man i'm gonna kick your ass like i'm gonna kill you for like three minutes while the band's just like just doing like a vamping like one more time let's take it one more time and then it ends with him getting back on stage somebody yeah it's so funny you know it's so wild

uh salute to christy yamaguchi main because in this article i'm reading they have a tweet of his in the fucking article wow because he tweeted something about he said i cannot wait to see smash mouth now and i think it's of the video of shit going down so look yeah aka great christy yamaguchi man covering the big stories that's yeah that's wild all right let's do a quick overview of how uh power operates uh we like to we like to check in with just how these things work in the united states and so i have these two different stories uh but i think are both revealing about different ways that operate so first we got adam schefter who has become like the espn's like star nfl reporter he's basically the woge of less interesting more fucked up sport but like he he knows the inside information about what's going to happen before uh it happens and

apparently how do you get that how do you get that so to do that he had to earn the trust of the people who have the power which in the case of the nfl are the owners and front officers and so How do you get that? How do you get that? homophobic bully and resigning is that Schefter was clearing stories with the Washington football team front office before publishing them, asking them to let him know what he needed to like edit, tweak or change. I think that's a direct quote and cheekily in like a ass cheek kissing way, referring to the people who control the Washington football team as Mr. Editor. He's like, just let me know what you need, Mr. Editor. I would like to distort reality to your benefit, sir. Yes. And this was a story from 2011 about a labor dispute between the players and the owners.

So it's yeah, he's just doing, you know, this is how a lot of media works, though, and I think is like kind of an underrepresented way that our, you know, system breaks down is that like to get access to the important stories, you have to like earn the trust of the powerful people who are, you know, influencing those stories. And then you end up fucking telling the story that they want you to tell. Right. So, man, Dan Snyder, because that's like this was so that this story about the labor dispute. That's obviously before everyone's like, oh, look how this team was being run. Yeah. Yeah. There was a story about Dan Snyder that came out like last summer or two summers ago.

And it was sort of like an indictment of both him and like the inner workings of the team, specifically as it relates to, I believe, cheerleaders and like women in the ranks. Yeah, I think they were, I think there's, I don't know if this is like fully fleshed out in the reporting, but I think there are reports that they were taking

videos of them like on the team cruise ship like undressing without their knowledge yeah and then so schefter is and then she carries water for them like they're espn's main nfl reporter he's gonna be like hi would you like to edit anything from this? Yeah. Oh, okay. Cut that out. Got it. KK. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Eddie D. And then this other story, unrelated, but I think also kind of reveals a detail of how power operates is just this Alex Murdoch, the Murdoch family. This is like the old fashion type of power corrupting that we've seen in movies since movies were a thing like the big fish in a small pond they were a legal powerhouse family and like they were apparently just literally able to get away with murder for a long time

but i allegedly yeah so oh is this the one where the like the son killed a kid and then the dad yes then then him and his mom died yeah that was so wacky before i was like viewing the news critically for a living there was like a part of me that assumed that shit like this was like too blatantly corrupt and evil to actually like still go on and that it was just like well come on there's like it's not like somebody would just be like the evil overlord of a town and just like kill people and be like, I can buy my way out of anything. And the truth is, yeah, cut to. Oh, yeah.

Feudalism still exists like the tenants of it. And we're constantly trying to reinvent it for people. But like, yeah, it it's so clear, although it is true that. You sort of want to think that things like that are too ridiculous to be true. And then you sort of realize that like, no, it just is happening in the open. People sort of like,

I think about this a lot with specifically like Save the Children movement and like the QAnon stuff. It's like, there's not a secret cabal of pedophiles. They're operating pretty openly and they're not scared of retribution because they're rich. So one thing, Ellery, you should know is that since you were last on, we did become a QAnon podcast. And we do. We do. Hashtag save the children. Hashtag where we go when we go.

But just to catch up, anybody who like wasn't listening the last time we cover the Murdoch thing, they were like a generations long dynasty of like legal power in South Carolina. Things started to unravel for them when one of their boys, like a high school student, got drunk and killed a young, like pretty white girl. So the news was paying attention and a boating accident. They decided to cover it up, like not in any like careful way. They were just like the way it came out was the police had like this uh dash cam footage from the night of it happening and there's like one of the witnesses in the car being like uh they like he just clearly like killed somebody and he's gonna get away with it because he's part of the murdoch family and like you guys aren't gonna do shit and then like years later the police

hadn't done shit and then that footage came. But when it started to seem like some combination of the scrutiny on that kid and his mom becoming like unloyal to the overall like family patriarch side of the family was going to like put a spotlight on the family. Suddenly that kid and the mom both showed up murdered on their own farm. And then we found out there had been two suspicious murders around that same farm. One with a guy being found with his brains blown out on the side of the road and having the ruling changed from shot in the head execution style, obviously, to vehicular hit and run by the police. Somehow they were like, oh, yeah, he got clipped with a mirror, man. It happens all the time.

And then the other with their housekeeper dying mysteriously while working at their house from a, quote, fall. And they just immediately put her underground without an autopsy. Oh, my God. So the... Yeah, he was hit by a Ford Mustang bullet. Right. Honestly, sort of Chappaquiddick vibes with the kid like very much oh yeah chappaquiddick if like the kennedys were only locally famous and could

have just gotten away with whatever the fuck they wanted honestly what really pisses me off is the housekeeper because i'm like if you want to kill each other inside the family whatever i don't care but don't bring like don't bring late your labor into it that's not fair yeah well tell it to the people who are murdering undisturbed to cover up their own crimes yeah you're right ellery that was that was a bridge too far that was you know what i mean so the latest charges come from the patriarch of the family so he basically conspired with the housekeeper's kids to be like you know i can buy my way out of anything here i will fix it so that you get a legal settlement through insurance because i'm so like legally powerful you're gonna get five hundred thousand dollars they were not in

a position to say no to five hundred thousand dollars wasn't it 4.3 million though oh was it in total okay yeah i thought the total was in the millions then none of us are in the position of saying not a 4.3 million well the thing is you know that each of them only got a million like after taxes and fees and yeah whatever except the thing is he did that was like i could buy my way out anything here you go i'm gonna pay you this didn't pay it to them stole that money that he was supposed to give them because he just has absolute power and was like what the fuck are they gonna do and then you know so that is the charge that he's getting hit with right now

is stealing money that was meant for like paying off the children of somebody he had probably murdered as the legal case like continues to go on but i feel like that's another feature of power and the conspiracies that we keep seeing kind of come out in the light of day is like first of all it's not that these are the exceptions to the rule it's that them getting uncovered because like somebody like this guy got addicted to oxy and became really like desperate and sloppy and his kid was you know killed somebody who the media happened to care about. But like this is just a thing that is going on. This is status quo in America.

And it coming to our attention is the exception. And then also just like how fucking bad they are like we saw this with trump who's just been like steeping in a hot pot of like privilege his entire life and like trying to pull scams and it's just like what what the fuck are you even trying to do like it's not clear how you're trying to get away with this well yeah i mean but i think it just shows like there are people who still have this mindset where they come from a time where it was truly all gas, no brakes, because your whiteness and wealth were able to nullify any sense of anything. Yeah. So now it's just like, whoa, what the fuck is this?

Yeah. Like, no, no, this is not how this is not how my dad did it. What the fuck are we doing? And I think you're seeing a lot of this carry over generationally where now these people are like surprised like genuinely shocked and i think that's why it's so blatant too because they're looking they've only seen generational examples of yeah you can get away with this shit yeah the he when he tried to cover like throw the stank off himself for murdering his wife and kid and housekeeper and random guy found on the side of the road the way he did it was hired his oxy dealer to shoot him in the head but graze him and and then be like i don't know the killer

is out there and he tried to shoot me and then like they immediately realized like he had hired somebody to do that and it's still being covered as like he did it as part of an insurance scheme it's like no he did it because he's like guilty of all these other things. Yeah. Also, somebody addicted to Oxy is not who I would pick to have very good like shoot up my face, but miss. Right. Well, he was the dealer. So he's the addict.

But is he following the 10 crack command? Yeah, I was going to say, I feel like every dealer is also partaking. Getting high on their own. Yeah, that's a good point. And it's only the ones that really have their shit together that don't. And you're impressed. Yeah. Like, oh, that's why you've been able to sell cocaine this long.

Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. You're like, I love this apartment building. I thought there was a waiting list for this place downtown. I don't know. Sell coke to the Caruso's. Wow.

That would be a good gig. Can you imagine? There probably is someone like that, right? It's like they give the Carusoos all these drugs and they keep them. They're like, yeah, wherever you need. We'll sit you up. We're talking about Alex Caruso, right? Yeah.

Laker player. Laker player. No, not the overly powerful real estate developer who runs LA. That guy definitely has a cocaine dealer. Right. Lives in a sick, sick apartment. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back

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I was like, oh man, since I was probably like the 90s and like, no, 2019, because things are, if you look on a timeline on an accelerated path, because inequality is on an accelerated path. And yeah, I think we've seen this through everything. You know, the pandemic has just made inequalities painfully clear for most everyone in this country. And as more workers withhold their

labor for better pay and benefits companies are struggling to figure out how to stay greedy and have slave wages it's i mean how do you do it i don't know so we have all these strikes in this instance john deere employers are striking because can anyone guess they want better wages and a fucking pension plan that doesn't cut out who hires huh who would have thought and they're but the reasons have been same across the country you know companies are reporting the same the same things happening companies have report record profits oh my god we're record profits and thanks to you all whose labor we extracted all this wealth from. Shout out to you because, you know, you guys are rock stars.

I hope you guys are the rock stars who made this trip to space possible. Woo. Y'all are rock stars. Give yourselves a hand. Don't ask for less work or more pay. You fucking cretins. So in 2021, just to give you an idea for John Deere, they fucking they they're set to profit nearly six billion dollars due to increased demand for their agricultural parts and equipment and it's beating its past record by 63 the ceo in 2020 it was paid 15.6 million dollars in compensation thanks to

a baby shareholder value the stock is performing here's a little deal man i mean i was on that shareholders call that guy's got that guy's got it miles and locking him in for a mere 15 mil i mean oh my god what's so fucked up about that is that those employees are only asking for like 20 cents more an hour by 2024 Like they're not even asking for all that much. And you're right because they're, you know, the United Auto Workers Union who's representing them, they were the ones who said, no, this last thing that John Deere put in front of them, absolute trash. And even if you just think of this, right, this fucking CEO made $15 million.

Imagine if he said, you know what? I only need $5 million this year. The other $10 million for those 10,000 workers, he could have cut them $1,000 check each. More, even more. That's crazy. I'm just saying narrowly. If you want to be the most greedy version, right? It's like, well, we're not going to touch what the corporate profits are.

I'll say for me as a CEO, you can take this out of my piece. I don't need 15. Come on now. Five is fine. The 10 for y'all, the people who I acknowledge that off of your fucking blood, sweat and tears and your backs and bodies being broken and being put to work all the time. That's why I have this shit. But, you know, I think at the end of the the day it isn't just this industry or just a specific

region of the country you got uh the kellogg cereal factory uh workers went on strike to end a two-tier benefit system they had frito lane nabisco went on strike earlier this summer and fucking ayatzi on monday from monday shit could go down and And you're gonna have 60,000 Hollywood film crew, people who work in production, who are going to go on strike because again, people see the same shit going around. And no matter what your job is, you will have probably seen the same thing. You get paid fuck all and you watch your managers or superiors or the leadership of a company living in a completely different financial reality and then fucking condescend and patronize you with like all these just like empty platitudes about like gratitude for what you've done and they're like oh yeah dude i got

a sick ass bonus like we shattered our revenue goals i mean i think destroyed two things i think firstly people managers specifically higher-ups are so far removed from the realities of labor that they can no longer even imagine what it's like to be living at $15 or less an hour, not even touching what it means to physically be the labor. see the tweet that IATSE put out today where they have been hearing reports because productions know that a strike is coming they are forcing onto their crew members extra seventh day and sixth day like like they're trying to get it crammed to try and cram it in before the strike so they're breaking more labor laws to get ready for the strike which is like such a bad fate it's like let's yeah let's get this in while we can still do it like right yeah you might as well just strike now i mean as from where i'm standing i am like shocked that workers haven't turned to like violence and like molotov cocktails because

it's like and and truly what i think it is and i think about this a lot like a general strike would never be possible in america because we don't have the network of mutual aid to support laborers who would not be able to go into work. And so and another thing I heard about IATSE is that one of my friends who's in IATSE told me that they had been talking about how some productions are reaching out to college students to get them to scab like college film students here. Wow. And those kids don't know that if they are scabs that means they can't join the union when they're ready yeah right yeah that's yeah and look so again it's always rearing its ugly head even if it's saying like oh i guess we have to deal with these people in good faith we'll also try and exploit even further yeah until the wheels quite

literally fall off which just show you that it's it's almost never in good faith like they don't actually if there's a dollar to be made that will always be more important than humanity and safety right yeah yeah and i think this is what's interesting too is you know it's clear now workers are beginning to realize they have the leverage here right or else we wouldn't see all these strikes absolutely like 10 years ago it was kids will fucking forget about but america used to be like a union country yeah oh absolutely till till reagan came along yeah you know bust some shits up and also yeah starbucks too i believe they they closed down two stores i think one in new york and another one in pennsylvania because

yeah because they were talking that's not legal? That's not legal, is it? Isn't that union besting? I think they can just be like, I mean, sorry guys, we just can't afford it. Like this doesn't work for us. They could be like, oh, the overhead here is too high. Yeah.

We were just talking about how these motherfuckers can do anything. It's like, yeah, it is. But watch this. I'm going to say it was for operational efficiency. And so many of those things are like let's say for example the opioid crisis all that shit was illegal but it was legal with a fine like if you can yeah if you can pay to apologize for it you can do it yeah and it also means that's

a law for poor people yes exactly it means that's a law for poor people that's how you know if it's a fine it's only for poor people and even in so many instances it's there are offenses that could be prisonable jailable and whatever we can get into how nobody should go to prison but for really rich rich people they never see jail time they just see fines yeah yeah and that's that's nothing so that's baked in i mean that's like legal liability is baked into their calculus. There's that book, The Corporation from 2003 that is, or I think it's from earlier, but the documentary came out in 2003. But it talks about how corporations have legal rights as individuals. They have the right to be treated as individuals.

But when you look at how they behave, an individual behaved that way they would be you know in prison and deemed a psychopath like an actual like categorical like psychopath because they have been on the record many times as being like okay so we discovered this manufacturing defect in this car it's probably going to kill 12 000 people oh but okay that's a good number but their suits like the limit to the like tort law or whatever the fuck it is like means that this is how much we stand to lose and this is how much we would lose if we did a recall and so we're gonna go with just letting the people die. Like, because that's just how.

So it's money. Yeah. I mean, there is like an assignable price. I think the, the UN once like got to a specific number, but there's like assignable prices to human lives, which is so intangible and so fucked up,

but that's like, that's capitalism. Right. That's where we have to be at. And I just want to say, you know point of how a general strike would not work, obviously, this one works because they're in a union and the union is giving them, I think, like $275 a week for these John Deere employees to be able to withstand, on a very small scale, the loss of income. But the other thing is, because there's so much leverage, you'd hope that more and more working people begin to understand that

workers have just unfathomable leverage at the moment. Because all you see right now is from the business owning class through their friends in media media they are terming this a labor shortage right and it's that perception which makes it just seem like oh man like people aren't working rather than saying yo people are fed the fuck up and they're getting organized and they're actually beginning to advocate for better outcomes for themselves in a way that they never have because the entire agreement has been fucked up. And so it's always through this very distorted lens. Well, it's not a labor shortage until there are wage hikes. Like until wages go up, it's not a true labor shortage.

And I also heard this very interesting take, and I can't remember who it's from, but essentially they said that there are places who say that they're hiring but won't actually hire anybody because it cuts their overhead costs to have fewer people and run on a skeleton crew but because of it might affect customer service and therefore public opinion they have to be like we can't find anybody to work for us nobody wants to work anymore but in reality they're like fine we'll run on a skeleton crew pay them exactly as much as they were and make even more right right yeah we're who who was it who was talking about going into a bar that was like overrun and like just one person behind the i think it was johnny yesterday wasn't it yeah johnny was saying said biden yeah he walked into a bar the bartender was like just you know

completely uh overwhelmed and turned to him and just went biden because that i mean i think that sums it up perfectly that sums it up perfectly and it's also like i don't i feel like i want to have like a group team meeting where i'm like we need to stress the importance of like labor solidarity because if you strike alone it doesn't matter but if you strike with your co-, now you have something that's really important. Absolutely. Yeah. And that's why, yeah, getting organized.

I know it comes in many different fashions, but like whether that's just getting the pulse of your coworkers and knowing where they're at and like what their needs are and wants are and be like, you know, if we get organized, we can all say, look, we want this shit. Or even finding out how much everybody makes yeah right exactly which you'll see and then the most insidious things you'll still see like it's illegal but you'll see places be like don't talk about your weight i've had that so many at the donut shop people were i they literally told us that they were like don't talk about what you make back here like that's not appropriate aka there's some fuck shit going exactly and i was like that's illegal like you can't tell

me you can't tell me that wow oh one question I had like so if there is a if there's a strike going on in your local community and like there are you know people who need support like community support like it just like are there food banks are there like how what are ways that people can just like hop in and so i'm actually pretty looped into this at least in los angeles i run a soup kitchen on tuesdays in koreatown lots of comedians come and volunteer because they've been unemployed for the last 15 months but i would say specifically in los angeles if you can donate if you know anybody who is in the union who is striking you can ask them specifically what they might need, and that would be good. But if you don't, you can donate to food banks.

We have a huge network of community fridges, which don't just need food. They also need people to go and clean up any boxes or remove any spoiled food. And then I would recommend getting involved with a mutual aid organization in your neighborhood. And that can look like a diaper bank. It can look like a food bank. It can look like any number of things. water drops specifically in LA, very important. So yeah, I would just say, try to do hyperlocal. And something I've noticed over the pandemic, it's not like, for a long time, I ate at my soup kitchen because money was short for me too. It's

all different types of people that face like food insecurity or diaper insecurity, or like a big one we see is like menstrual product insecurity. So there are all these like sort of small necessities of daily life that as your bank account dwindles, those get harder to place. And so finding ways to fill in those gaps, I think is like the number one thing that we can do to support like striking labor. Yeah, that's awesome. And sometimes you'll see sometimes there'll be strike funds. Yes, I think there will eventually, there'll definitely be an IOTC strike fund for sure. Yeah. And that's one way if you're not maybe physically there, you can support with your money to support a strike fund that would then help striking workers. And I would argue that

liquid cash is definitely the most important thing because you can't anticipate an individual's needs only they can and some people are like oh i don't want to give out you know cash money and i think that's the that's the number one way to help a person is to give them cash liquid cash but i need them to uh jump through this hoop where they apply for a job how do i means test this yes exactly that's so and it's everywhere it is everywhere yeah and people don't realize too how insidious means testing is to like even i have friends who work in you know blue municipalities state governments where they bang their head against the wall with their other bureaucratic co-workers who they're like yeah we do need to address this and help these people who

like you know these people in this marginalized community do need better like we should allow them that we should give computers or something just to create better educational outcomes and people are like but how do we know that people are going to use them in the right way i just feel like fuck that like i don't i don't take that out of your mind yeah well first things firstly i would so much rather help somebody by accident than not help anybody or like give somebody something that they don't actually need and then secondly or like the amount of like fraud that would have to happen for me to care about it would have to be like 25 and that's not happening it's going to be like one to five percent if that and then secondly the fraud that

happening is with the wealthy yes really genuinely that's the large scale fraud we should be worried and then also something i've like noticed is like the amount of self-policing that we do like people police like the community fridges and being like oh like i saw this person take that thing shut up shut up right yeah i'm sorry did you did you did you have a need for this yeah like this charity all things for everybody i don't like we don't care what people take we don't care what they leave we just care that they respect the space right that's that's so funny because just it's not funny but it's just like i have a five-year-old three-year-old and like they are obsessed with what the other one is getting like they don't care what they get as long as the other one doesn't get shit

like they just like want i don't know that That just feels like it's like a very like. Deeply human thing. Where people are like wait what did they do. Or childish. Yeah. Right. It has to be like. Yes.

Unlearned. Or it's like something you actually have to work against. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That. Yeah. You don't.

If you have a scarcity mentality. Then the world is fucking awful. Yeah. And there's no need to help anyone. Because everything's fucked. But the fact is. There is a lot. there's abundance out there. It's just, it's been untapped in a lot of ways, whether that's people not paying their taxes or the fact that we have tremendous food waste or other things like there are many ways to actually,

you know, approach these things. But it's, I think some, you know, it's the imagination part. And I think this is the good thing about the big strikes going on people are beginning to get the imagination yeah children are monsters they have to have it drilled out of them just by nature there's so much uh wild shit in there yeah yo what about that thing you do like if you have like siblings or cousins and you like you you bring in like a plate of food and like, which one's heavier? Right now, I'm gonna get that. You know, I mean, which bag is heavier of this takeout? Oh, yeah.

Which one's bigger? Which one's bigger? All right. Well, once again, we're not going to have time to get to the zero visual imagination thing. But that is I think that's what it should be is just a story that's out there. That's off in the distance that we can always aspire to get to. But there's just too much good shit to talk about today with Ellery. Ellery, such a pleasure having you.

Where can people find you and follow you? You can find me at Ellery underscore Smith on Instagram. Yeah, yeah. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Yeah, I have a tweet today and I picked it out not knowing what we would talk about, but now it seems really fitting. So it's a tweet from bug at Wolly World, W-O-L-Y World. And it says, I love when customers are rude. No way, OMG, my turn. That's amazing. Miles, where can people find find you what's the tweet you've been enjoying you can find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray and also the other podcast for

20 day fiance with sophie alexandra we talk 90 day you know on that 420 shit and yes some tweets that i'm liking first one is from matt underscore johnson who said my students are so young that if i yelled the roof the roof the roof is on fire they would think the roof was on fire wow that makes sense but we do need water uh another one from amelia elizalde at amelia elizalde on twitter uh says all the video games my boyfriend plays are like would you like to search beehive and he'll say yes and it'll be like you have found a bee just like a stupid role-playing game shit but i just love this take on it like wow you got a be in that beehive babe I found a bee

there's a bee in there yeah the beehive yeah yeah I searched when it asked me to say yes you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien a couple tweets I've been enjoying jessdweck at the dweck tweeted machine gun kelly and megan fox will keep releasing quotes until their demands are met

and then casey at ct right pretty tweeted I bet shack has called the vaccine a until their demands are met. And then Casey at CT Right Pretty tweeted, I bet Shaq has called the vaccine a Shaq scene so many times that people have gotten mad at him. And that is, there's almost no way that's not true. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website,

DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy hey miles what song do we think people might enjoy oh man we got we got something new uh well new to me but it's a track from cali uches and sisa and i just like this one just to get your weekend started it's called fue mejor and you know this is it's it's got spooky it's sexy and i couldn't ask for two artists that i like to hear more sing so cali uches sisa fue mejor awesome well the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast,

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