The Daily Zeitgeist - Billionaire Goes To “Space”, Friend Zone Is Best Zone? 7.13.21

Episode Date: July 13, 2021

In episode 949, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Jacquis Neal to discuss rent relief, billionaires in space, vaccine numbers at CPAC, anti-vaxxers at the Olympics, friendships ending in relationships, and more!FOOTNOTES: California has $5.2 billion in COVID aid to help you pay rent, utility debts. How to apply Trump takes credit for billionaires' race to space As COVID ravages this corner of Missouri, health workers agonize over the unvaccinated U.S. swimmer Michael Andrew on why he will go to Tokyo without coronavirus vaccine Two-thirds of romantic couples start out as friends, study finds LISTEN: Marjan - Kavire del Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Fuck them all. It is Tuesday, July 13th, 2021. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Get the facts if you want to. You can get some peace of mind because your friends don't facts and if they don't facts, then they're no

friends of mine. That is courtesy of Rob Cunningham. And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray now batting in the home run derby from north hollywood is show gray smoke tony uh that just came off in my mind because i saw that fucking dumbass Stephen A. Smith clip just now. That guy's such a fucking choker. Wait, what did he say? He was out here questioning.

He's like, is it good for baseball to have the number one face? Basically saying like Shohei Otani uses an interpreter. Is that good for the sport that he doesn't speak English? Oh. Yeah, like just some straight xenophobic nonsense. Yeah, so. Oh my God. You know know he stays showing his dumb ass yeah well miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the very kings of culture himself ambi nominated podcast host a writer producer actor voice artist and as i mentioned last time one of my favorite singers. He's such a good singer that Miles said he won't even sing his AKAs when this man is on.

Strategic cowardice. Smart. It's smart. Well, he is the brilliant and talented Jacky Sneo! It's seven o'clock on the dot. I'm in my drop top looking for Jacky's. Oh, yeah. I got a real pretty, pretty, pretty girl that's kneeling for me.

Boom, boom, boom, boom. I pull up anticipating. Good talk. Don't keep you waiting. I got plans to keep my fans in places they never seen Girl, you know what I mean What up, niggas? What's up, what's up?

I just started that off the top of the dome My vocal quality is... Just clear a tear from my eyes real quick Oh my gosh, let me tell y'all, man My vocal quality is, you know, I just clear a tear from my eyes real quick. Oh, my gosh. Let me tell you, man. Let me tell you what I realized right before I started to record is that I got to take a shit, man. And let me end doing a podcast when you got to take a shit rushes your rushes everything.

Yeah. But I'm going to hold it for this. This is going to be a 35 minute episode. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Rush through it. He's a whole time. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. five minute episode we're just gonna cut it yeah yeah he's been giving me the wrap it up sign since i started talking you can find me in these streets we're not there yet we're not there yet uh what what's new uh what is. What's new? What is new? Nothing's new. Thanks for having me as always, guys. Good to be back with the duo, the dynamic duo.

Yeah, yeah. Last time I saw you guys, you were hosting the pre-show at the Amby. Yeah, yeah. Wow. See, you clarified the pre-show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not going to give y'all more props than y'all deserve. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I mean, accurate, accurate. It was the pre-show. Some of the randomest people saw that shit. I know. My dad's agent was like, reached out to me. Yeah. He was like, hey, man, I saw you on the Ampies. Great stuff out there, man.

Great stuff out there. Great stuff out there. A basketball coach agent watching the Ampies. You know, he probably had something nominated. Maybe. Didn't know you were doing jokes, man. Didn't know you were doing jokes. That was supposed to be funny, right?

Oh, fuck. Miles, you are coming to us from a new locale. Is that correct? Yes. Currently, I'm like Mace, one of my favorite mumble rappers, and I'm spending time in HAWAII. Woo! And, you know, shout out to Hawaii's iGang, who's blessed me with recommendations and all kinds of information. And, you know, just trying to keep my head low, not trying to be one of these terrible terrible mainland intruders but unfortunately and there's a lot of people coming to hawaii right now

but yeah it's it's it's a wonderful time wonderful you got the hookup you have like a place to stay you can't you can't say no to that stay no no and plus in this age of working remotely you know her majesty and i as we look forward to our lives you know and taking the next phases of you know matrimony possible families and things like that we're like we need to be able to do something like this yeah go be somewhere and and work remote because i've never worked i mean aside from the lockdown i've never had the the flexibility to work remotely so you know taking advantage of that for a little bit take advantage of and you know what man go do all the tourist shit go do it all i you know what's wild this shit is every there's so fucking like popping right now you can't go

fucking anywhere like if you want to packed yeah it's two-pack shakur and if you even want to go to a tour or something like that like to go see like the ranch where they shot jurassic park that shit is booked into mid-august mid-august i word i'm going to september so i'm about to start making my reservations i would literally if you have any idea any plans book all your shit now yeah i fucked up and all the mail be all right and now i'm out here being like i guess i'll just eat poke at food land again yeah and just to cover off on a question that is on everybody's mind since you mentioned the Mace verse. Miles, can you please stop smoking Lala? Jack, why

try? I'm a podcaster. I'm a die-high. Okay. I just want to make sure. Miles with the lyrics, y'all. Miles with the lyrics. All right. Pop Daddy, one of my favorite lyricists of all time. Just a great, one of the

greats to ever do it uh all right jakees we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about we're talking about rent relief we're talking about not charles branson richard branson going to space and it was it was perfectly timed the headlines were perfectly timed for the post-apocalyptic movie that we all find ourselves in. Because at the same time, America was nearing the high temperature of all time. Which, you know, don't say we can't do anything we set our mind to. Death Valley was within a few degrees Fahrenheit.

We'll talk about CPAC. We'll talk about the racist football backlash to the Euro Cup loss in England. Whether friend zone is the best zone, all of that, plenty more. But first, Jaquese, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Ooh, from the search history.

All right, All right. I always act surprised, even though I've been on the show many times. And I act surprised. Something from my search history is I was looking up this place called Club Privada. Now, if you don't know what Club Privada is, I know there are some people in the Oregon site gang who might know what this is, but it's a sex club, right? Now, I didn't think these things existed. I didn't think sex clubs existed. I thought they were just things of fantasy, things that you hear about on television.

But I decided to run up the old Google machine and plug it in and log it in and look up Club Pravada. And it's very much a thing. And there are sex clubs in almost every city and state. I mean, unless you live in a boring-ass place. But if you live in a place that has a population that's a little bit bigger, there are sex clubs in everywhere. I'm not saying I'm going to go, but I am saying I'm intrigued now. So, you know. It's just good information to have.

Yeah, it's good information to have. You know, if you and your significant other decide you want to spice some shit up and you want to go to a club for the certain spice that you're looking for, that is available to you. And if you did not know, now you do because they are real. They are real. I thought it was fake. What's a sex club, though? It's a place where you fuck. It's like a where you fuck like you just you like it's like a swingers place. So like you go and couples go and they had they make love.

You don't say the F word on the dailies like guys. They make love. And then and then they or and then you could tap in and stuff, you know, obviously to your comfort. No, no, it's no. Yes, it's just everything like that. But then, like, you know, a lot of places do single ladies and couples. No, man. Sorry, man.

Sorry, you single man. But it's just a place where you go to hook up, have sex with your partner and or other people as well. OK. Yeah. Yeah. It's basically the shit you see in movies that don't seem real, but apparently it is real. Yeah. You would think we would know more about it.

That used to just be the Wendy's parking lot for me, but it's good to know about these things. Right? Oh, you hooked up in a Wendy's parking lot before, too? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, baby. What you do is you walk outside with three, what is it, the Frosties? Uh-huh. And if you spill three Frosties on your feet outside the Wendy's, they know what's up. What?

What color Frosty? The vanilla or the chocolate? Vanilla. And if you're down for the swirls, you got both. Okay. And then you let them know. Like, I'm open. See, what I do is I go again. I go in and I'm like, give me your hottest meat. And so when I bring it back to the car and let them know like i'm open see what i do is i'll go get i'll be like i go in and i give me your

hottest meat and so when i bring it back to the car and the windows fog up and somebody knocking me like it's the meat it's too hot it's too hot which is true but they think i mean something else you know so that's what the wendy's parking lot is but it always ends with the same thing which is sir this is a wendy yeah that's exactly what it ends with and same thing, which is, sir, this is a Wendy. Yeah. That's exactly what it ends with. And, you know, every time I don't care, I'll be like, you're right. I saw on TikTok that this clip of this woman who was like, I guess she was saying she was a swinger about how, like, if you're in a supermarket and you have your pineapple upside down in your cart, that's letting people know that you're with it. But again, this is like TikTok. I mean mean this is what is so funny about tiktok it's like full of videos like this be

like this is how this you know subculture gets down and i don't know if that's true so swinger crew let us know it's just like an elementary school that's like some shit that i a rumor i would spread in elementary school you know hey man you hear it you have you heard turn your pineapple upside down you're down the fuck yeah every town has a park where like i hear that if you park up there and like one of your taillights is out you know what that means yeah about your tail they'll light it up you gotta light that tail up if it's out i grew up with with HBO, Flex, Brag, and they had a show called Real Sex. Oh, yeah. Which I would always tune into after the parents had gone to bed. And I would see sex clubs and I would be disillusioned from any idea that they are what we see in movies.

from any idea that they are uh what what we see in movies they're usually they usually involve a balding man and a with a ponytail yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you you ain't going you ain't i mean listen i'm sure there's uh you know listen beauty is in the eye of the beholder yeah yeah you know what i'm saying let me go ahead and say these things pre-cancellation beauty's in the eye of the beholder what you love is what you love you know the looks don't matter it's what's on the inside but you know we ain't going it ain't rare shoe diaries in there it's gonna be some of us you ain't attracted to in there so you know like just know that probably going in you know that yeah you might be looking for red shoe diaries it might be pay less you're gonna get some pay less you diaries uh what is something you think is overrated you keys oh man i you know this isn't

i don't think this is uh you know shocking to hear but uh the car buying process is extremely overrated i just bought another car I gave my mom my car. She needed a new one. And I was like, all right, mom, I'm going to go in and pay off my car, give it to you. You can either have it or you can trade it in, do whatever you want with it, give you a little extra dough to buy a new car, which left me with no car, which, you know, coming from Chicago, I'm like, whatever. But living in L.A., you need a car out here, car, which, you know, coming from Chicago, I'm like, whatever. But living in L.A., you need a car out here, especially when Uber's at $400 to take a ride. So I bought a new car. The whole process is so fucked up. And right now, right now, people are, everybody, financing, dealerships,

nobody's willing to negotiate because everybody's like, there's a car shortage. We can't get new cars. You know, post pandemic, we need to make all our money back. I swear to God, there's been an article twice this week or the week I was buying a car that said there are used cars on the lot right now that are more expensive than when they were new on the showroom floor two, three years ago. And I'm like, this is whack, man. This is whack man this is whack and if there was ever a time to kill somebody as if you making me pay more for a used car than that shit was brand new three years ago those are grounds for hands man it's ridiculous it's ridiculous and that's but you know that's the thing you gotta watch out for when you work at a

lot the used cars where they make the real money yeah that's where you get the widest profit margin as a salesperson so yeah you know i i get oh makes my eyes water as someone who used to sell cars be like man that's what the use is going for oh shit man you used to sell cars i should have hit you up for the tips man yeah i mean look guys nowadays i what i used to do is just because i used to work in radio i would ask because radio you know, car dealerships go hand in hand. So there was always somebody who worked at the radio station. I'm like, yeah, I'm trying to get a Mazda. You know, buddy, a Galpin Mazda.

They're like, yeah, go in there and let them know you used to work at Power 106. And I did that. But also the other side of it was like, I just go straight to it and be like, how close can you get me to the invoice price of this car? Because the invoice is what y'all are paying for it. and that's how i know how much you're going to be making off it in terms of a sale i'm not please don't treat me like a mark please treat me like somebody who needs a car yeah yeah i went i went in there as you know saying the what's the outdoor price that's that was my uh that was my they know i'm here meeting business. It didn't work, but they knew I'm in business. They knew I'm in business.

What's the OTDP on that? What? After our price, man. After our price. You just Googled that, didn't you? You just Googled that. We don't say that around here. All right, cool, man.

Let me write a number down for you, and then you tell me what you think about this. Actually, you wait here, and I'll go talk to your manager. How about that? Yeah, yeah, man. Let me write a number down for you and then you tell me what you think. Actually, you wait here and I'll go talk to your manager. How about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you going to talk to your manager? I'll come with you, bro. I need to walk, man.

I need to walk. I want to meet him. Sounds like a cool person. It's ridiculous. What's something you think is underrated? All right, here it is, everybody. My social media is underrated. There it is. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Most people know we are in this industry. Sometimes social media is our tool as well. I don't like Instagram. I don't love Twitter, but we use it right. And I'll be giving the jokes.

right and i'll be giving the jokes um you know ever since i did the shoot with mtv they requested like nigga can you start using instagram so i've been using my instagram more too so listen i'm using more so here's what i'm saying i've tried to tempt the zeit gang with some nude pics you know release the flesh if i get to 10k didn't work nobody want to see the beat i get it i get it you're not interested in seeing the cheeks, I got another proposition for you. So before the pandemic, I was in the process of starting my own Patreon. And then the pandemic happened and like the Patreon I was doing, which required people to come over to the crib, I stopped and I didn't want to do all the Zoom shit. And now I'm too busy to take it back up. But I have like five episodes of unreleased very fun

some of them are improv I got a couple watch-alongs that if we get to 10,000 on Twitter and get close to it on Instagram I will release them for free for all of you to listen to my favorite episode I did was I did a watch-along of Police Academy with the homie Jamie Loftus. It's the first time we've ever done a podcast together and it's just sitting in the ether. Nobody's heard it. Nobody's heard the Jamie Jackies hookup or not hookup, but the connection on the podcast airwaves, the podcast hookups. So if y'all want this, go ahead, hit the follow. I know y'all love Loftus. I know we all love Loftus. Hit the follow button because the Instagram and the Twitter is underrated.

So we need to get it overrated. So when I come back next time, I tell all y'all to stop following me because I'm tired of y'all niggas. That's what I want. That's what we're talking about. And for the people who do want to, who are interested in the nudes, what about them? Oh, yeah. Yeah. You get me to 10,001 and then I'll release the nudes.

You're just looking for an excuse, man. I'm just trying to release these nudes, man. I'm sitting on them. I'm tired of looking at them myself. They're burning the hole in my pocket. They're burning the hole, man. Yeah. I need to get these out into the world. Is that Police Academy 1?

It was the first Police Academy that we watched. We did a watch-along to it, and we recorded it. We recorded our watch-along. It was very fun, very silly. I think that's the only Police Academy I never saw because it's rated R, and that was an age when i i could not watch rated r movies was when i was in the police academy there is a moment i didn't know

it was rated r there is a moment in the watch along as you're here with me and jamie who also had never seen it we had never seen it when titties came on the screen and we both like audibly reacted like oh boobs we didn't know we didn't know so you want to hear that you know what to do well you know you want to hear me and jamie both react to seeing breasts it's like you know what to do it's like you couldn't have a comedy in the 80s without just some form of nipple yeah display it was the most random it's like oh that guy ran through a locker room or like you know and they're like oh there you go there's your obligatory pair of naked breasts yeah it was the

most unnecessary breast reveal that i've seen in a long ass time there was no need but just to say we gotta get some boobs in here and that's exactly what they did so yeah i guess both police academy one and two are rated r and those are the two that I've never seen got it well Jack look I know I put myself out there as an academy head but I have all those

I support the Police Academy shirts that you scratched off Academy on all of them now yeah in retrospect Yeah, you scratched off Academy on all of them now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In retrospect, you know, those sent the wrong message. But yeah, I never saw one and two. Well, hey, now you maybe get a chance.

And if you do want to watch it, watch it with me and Jamie being a commentary to your viewing experience. Bang, bang. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds. Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new

game. Atari promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. I mean, my reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful.

I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today.

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Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session.

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bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked voila you got straight away i felt like i was living in north korea but worse if that's possible listen to spiraled on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And let's talk rent relief because the world is, you know, here and there, opening back up, closing back, opening back up. And Congress, you know, they passed those little COVID recovery bills to help keep people from being evicted. And then I feel like we didn't hear much after that. Like we didn't hear about people taking advantage of it as much because I'm assuming landlords

didn't want people to take advantage of it. So where are we with all that? Yeah, I mean, I encourage everybody to look at the state in which they live, especially for those in the United States. But yeah, there's about $46 billion on the table for rent and utilities aid. And the CDC moratorium on evictions is set to expire at the end of July. But many states have tried, some successfully, others not so, to distribute the money to those hit hardest by the pandemic recession. And, you know, it's not always, you know, like places like Virginia and Texas, they've started pretty strong in terms of distributing these funds. But, you know, big shout out to California in this very narrow respect,

because we have probably one of the strongest programs in terms of distribution and protection of tenants. And again, for those that qualify, you can have up to 100% of your rent and utilities paid all the way back to April of 2020. But it takes a little bit of research. We'll have a link in the footnotes for California residents to see how to get those resources. But even in terms of landlords who maybe want to evict people from their buildings because a new Whole Foods popped up a couple blocks away and they know they can gouge a new set of tenants or transplants with higher rent rates. Well, not so fast because even if you are a rental owner,

you have to first show that you even applied for these funds before you can even go forward with any kind of eviction procedures. So it's right now, you know, every state, again, if they're moving at their own paces.

So I just want to say the money is there. And for those who, who absolutely need to have been hit hardest, please check your local resources to get your hands on these things because the funds are there. Right. Even more than check, like let people know,

let people know, let your homies know, let people know who's struggling like and also yeah that that's the funny thing is struggling is not a set in stone they're a thing you know struggling to me is struggling to somebody else is different so even if you don't think somebody is struggling they may be you know what i'm saying and my definition of struggling is if you live in paycheck to paycheck and you ain't got no extra money after you pay bills and if you miss a check then you know then you fucked then you struggle you're struggling and you deserve to get help and it's so wild i hate that i love that we're doing this california is dope for doing it and all the states that are doing it are dope for doing it. And I wish it was more well-known. I wish it was being promoted more. And I wish more states and people were jumping on this.

But it's things like this that just, while it makes me happy, also pisses me off. Because it's just like, we could, and this is not hyperbole to say this literally fix everything like we could we could literally fix everything and and start and not even start anew but start at a more level playing field for so many people and like build up from there and the fact that we keep so many people in holes and then shit like a fucking global pandemic happens and there's an opportunity to get out of the hole but still not everybody knows it's so ridiculous and it's so upsetting and even when you look at the amount of life that was lost the amount of jobs that were lost, the amount of jobs that were lost, wages that were lost, we're still finding ourselves like in the same place where it's kind of like, okay, how do we solve the problem of doing things the old way, which is like giving rather than

being like, let's just forgive all of this and let's figure out a way to, you know, subsidize like all of the rent that was out there without people having to jump through hoops or, you know, create some semblance of like guaranteed income, like looking at just how much, how disruptive this was and how fragile the system is. That the fact that we're just, again, everything has been going back to normal. We're seeing, you know, elements of that all around, but yeah, again, please check your local states and municipalities because, you know, Congress has been there, you know, they're, they're trying to figure out if they can pass more bills or whatever they can do to get these uh funds out quicker but it truly is at this point it's important for everybody to to do the research yeah and let everybody know

just let them that there is there there are these funds out there so the renters can apply directly for this as well as the landlords it's not a thing where like you have to count on your landlord going and getting the money from the government well you could but the thing is if you're the first before a renter can even ask or before a renter could even begin to evict someone they have to apply right right and this is everywhere or just california this is in california specifically i think other states may have some, you know, every state is sort of set up slightly differently. But at least for California specifically, you know, they're prioritizing people who are at immediate risk of eviction first. You know, again, please look, check, check it out, because every county has different programs that are hopefully, you know, trying to keep people in their places. that are hopefully, you know, trying to keep people in their places. Yeah.

That Whole Foods hypothetical that you provided just struck me as way too plausible to, like, trust a landlord not to evict somebody if they have the chance to. Just because if they... Right. Just, like, landlord and, like, capitalist mentality, like, I feel like they're going to be like, well, if that person couldn't pay rent when this happened, then that makes them like less attractive to me as like a landlord. So I'm going to try and get them out one way or another.

So, yeah, yeah. And I mean, you know, it's so funny because we when we think of not being able to pay rent, obviously the immediate thought is losing your place and then we kind of and i don't say this is an extreme like this is you know extreme like a bad thing but we jump to the extreme of homelessness after that right but that's not that wouldn't be the case for a lot of people uh some people would be able to maybe go live with a friend or go live with family or maybe go to a cheaper option who knows but what we don't think about is how defaulting on rent and getting evicted fucks your credit up like that's something we don't think about and which is also another way to be fucked up in this system where you're just a number, right? So it's not

just like not being able to pay rent and lose your house, which is obviously the worst thing that can happen. There are people who are out there struggling to pay rent and at risk of, you know, getting evicted and that going on their credit reports and things like that, which fucks you up in a whole different set of ways, which could also lead to homelessness and things like that, which fucks you up in a whole different set of ways, which could also lead to homelessness and things like that. Right. So there's so much in between that this could help so many people not go deeper into a hole of poverty and unworthiness in the eyes of our capitalist system. It's just unfortunate too, like we have a setup, though, where it's not just the aid comes to you automatically. It's like, hey, if you know and you're aware and know about this,

here are the things that can help you. Right. And it's a shame that we aren't more proactive to just say we already know we're putting pause like and we said this from the beginning of the lockdowns, like we know we're putting everything on pause economically. So therefore, as the government who's mandating this, we will also talk to the people that are collecting your bills to let them know, hold the fuck up. We're putting everything on pause. You can deal with us to figure out how this works, because we're our first priority is to make sure the people of this country are safe. But hey, maybe I'm living in a utopia. I mean, maybe you in Hawaii or every or maybe you're living in space with bezos or every

other country basically like most other countries where you don't have to like earn your tax return they just like send it to you if you paid too much in taxes you don't have to like file a bunch of confusing paperwork and same with this it's like what why give people all these hoops and difficulties to endure in order to like because more change will fall out your pocket if you're jumping through all the hoops yeah all right is it time for a break not yet damn not quite not yet okay if you say so jack Not quite. I'm going to break it. Not yet? Okay.

If you say so, Jack. I think it is. I mean, we could take another break if you want to run. I'm joking. I'm joking. He's like, I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking.

He may be sweating. I am sweating. You're having trouble controlling the volume of your voice. All right, real quick, before you blast off, let's go to space real quick. So Richard Branson went to space. First of all, I just want to say the headline on Drudge Report, right-wing media outlet, but it's like the single page. it's just a single page with a bunch of links, and it still competes with New York Times for page views. This is the most popular news single page in America, so I always like to check it. And on Sunday, their headline was Richard Branson, Branson blast off with the

big headline. And then above that, Death Valley hits 130 degrees Fahrenheit within four degrees of world record, exclamation point. Palm Springs, highest ever temps per month, record temperature, strain power supply, USA, hottest June, reservoirsrying Up. In addition to this being just like a boring, pissing contest between rich guys, apparently Bezos is not impressed with Branson's. Branson didn't break the carbon barrier, which is the internationally recognized barrier for space. Oh, shit. Bezos is like, he didn't really go to space.

And, I mean, they didn't do a good job convincing me either with the video they just they didn't even like put on astronaut suits they were just like in sunglasses floating around but commercial baby you know what i mean the shits and giggles but uh yeah i just keep picturing bezos and branson like, we as they fly into space and contributing nothing to the mission and the actual astronauts having to like stop their complicated work to like look over and be like, yeah, wow,

you're really doing it, sir. This is great. Great work. Yeah. Just over and over base. Like this is so fucking sick right now. I'm so sick that Mr. Bezos, we have to, I'm checking the telemetry right now. So so sick that thank you mr bezos we have to i'm checking

the telemetry right now so fucking sick i can't believe it that was approximately how uh eloquent branson was he was like that was i've done some ridiculous stuff but dude that was ridiculous that was like his that's one small step for man was dude for donk. Well, he told he was like for all the dreamers out there. He's like, I'm a grown man in a spaceship. Believe your dreams. I'm like, you're in a plane that went up that didn't even bust the Carby barrier full.

Yeah. Just relax and do something with your money to help the earth that you left. That is on fire as we speak. But yeah, that just that like, I feel like a movie wouldn't put those headlines right next to each other during the like headline reel where when a movie's like trying to montage past a an apocalypse to get to the post-apocalypse like having them on the same

headline is a lot like that's very on the nose yeah the shit that rich white people do is astounding to me and and it's mostly because like let me let me ask you something miles and jack like could you imagine jay-z going to space i could you could i can't imagine that nigga going to space i mean look he signed a deal with the NFL. But going to space? Nah, brother. You mean on his dime? No, in general. Jay-Z grew up poor. Jay-Z ain't about to go nowhere that's going to kill him like that easily and lose all his damn money, right?

I mean, after seeing him on a wave runner with his vacation hair, I'm like, I think I've seen it all with Jay. But yes, with this, what you're putting down right now, yes, I do. I understand the points you're making for sure. Yeah. Like, it's just, you know you know listen we could talk about richness all we want capitalism billionaires blah blah blah but somebody get jack he's a billion dollars first of all i'll help some people right i'm still gonna keep my i'm still gonna keep a lot of my money but i'll help a lot of people you know what i'm saying i'll tell you what i'm not doing

i'm not going to fucking space i'm not not doing shit that's going to be close to killing my ass. One thing can go wrong. The most I'm doing is getting on a plane. That's the most thing. That's the most I'm doing. I'm not jumping out of a plane. I'm not going beyond the atmosphere. I just don't understand, like, what makes you want to say, well, what have I done?

I've made $400 billion. Oh, fuck. Let's go to space i don't i don't understand it it's so wild to me and that we just let them there's just like a fork in the road i think for really wealthy people where it's like okay like i've bought everything that can be owned and then you're sort of like okay and then you get to this fork in the road which is like maybe help people like in a significant way. Or the other side of the road goes build spaceship. Yeah. And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Build spaceship. Build spaceship. I'm also mad they go into space because I'm tired of I'm tired of like Twitter memes and shit about it. Like, it's just I'm so tired of people. Oh, well, they are fucking up the planet. So they're trying to leave it like okay like it all it all spawns just boring takes it's very boring it's like all boring on the nose it's boring but it's so boring gotta i mean they're they're doing like you don't need a meme because

the meme like all the writing is there in this it It is. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, that's a really good point about just like that. So something about the confluence of like personality defects that makes you become a billionaire. It's going to space. It's wanting to like feel proud of that. There's like some bad person energy. I'm reading this book, The Power Broker, about Robert Moses, the guy who designed a lot of New York City and was a racist piece of shit. Early on, he's this super idealistic guy,

and he's publishing a paper that he worked on with like 20 people who adored him who he was like really good leader to and then when it comes to like taking credit for the report he just like takes all their names off of the report like he's just there's just like these certain character defects that make you really successful in america and they also happen to make you like a very shitty person and I feel like going really wanting to go to space and like have people recognize you as guy in space is is one of them like even with Trump miles you were pointing out like even Trump like wanted to get involved as like a wannabe billionaire absolutely he's even when even, when he was, Trump took credit for them going to space. He said, I'd rather see Richard in the plane today

than me in the spaceship. Richard loves it. And Bezos loves it. And a lot of rich guys love space, okay? You will explain that someday, but they do love space. That's a real quote he said out his mouth. And then he goes on to say,

they love sending rocket ships up and I made it possible for them to do this. I actually said to my people, let the private sector do it. These guys want to come in with billions of dollars. Let's lease them facilities because, you know, you need certain facilities to send up rockets. And we have those facilities. We have the greatest facilities.

We are leading the pack in space by far. I'm so mad. I'm so mad at Donald Trump. And let me tell you why. in space by far. I'm so mad. I'm so mad at Donald Trump. And let me tell you why. Let me tell you why. What's going on?

I overall think the presidency is bad in general. I know I'm about to upset a bunch of people out here, but I think even if Lord Bernie Sanders got into the White House, that nigga gonna do some bad shit because just the office of the presidency is bad. But some people would be better than others. Right.

I'm so mad that Trump is on the lower spectrum, if not the bottom of bad presidents, because if he wasn't, this nigga is the funniest motherfucker in the planet that I've ever seen. Like this year's pure comedy. And I can't enjoy his comedy because he's such a terrible fucking person. Like, what you just read is a scripted television show. Yeah. That's a scripted television show that we can't enjoy because he's serious.

And not in a charming way, not in, like, a fun way. He's serious and, like, all the crap that spews out of his mouth but it's a lot of rich guys love space okay once he's dead i feel like trump movies are gonna be like an entire genre because it's gonna yes like he is michael scott like he's a michael scott level like yeah character just in in reality but, yeah, the unfortunate reality is the stakes are so high that those, like, translate to real-world outcomes

that are just deadly. They're just, yeah, that can fuck up a whole goddamn nation. But, like, the immediate instinct at the front of that quote to be like, look, I don't even want to go to space. Like a kid who just lost a race and is like, I didn't even want to win. He's like, well, better them than me. I would rather see Richard in the plane than me in the spaceship.

Richard loves it. Bezos loves it. But it's like, that's not anybody else's thought except billionaires. Billionaires are the ones who are like looking at it and being like, motherfucker. So I'll space money. Also, Trump, push your line as you know, your ass wouldn't go to space. You're scary as hell. No, you know, your ass wouldn't go.

You wouldn't get near a rocket. Not at all. Almost definite. Yeah scary ass. Hell no. You know, yo ass wouldn't go, you wouldn't get near a rocket. Not at all. Almost definite. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break. And we will be right back.

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like that's not how it works like wait a minute you thought a surgeon would just piss himself like while giving surgery or our marathon surgery like the idea that it's the feeling that makes you have to go to the bathroom and not like a physical capacity of your bladder it was surprising to me like i okay i thought that like that just meant your bladder was full but like the fact that we like we're apparently going before we need to because of like some nerve thing that happens and like it's just a blocking of the sensation that that changed it really fucked me up i just like the this is like a tim robinson sketch where it's surgeons just pissing all over themselves right mid-proced, like mid-operation. God, our father's like,

it's sterile. It's sterile. And it's like peas getting into the person's chest. I can't stop now. I'm right at the heart. I'm right at the heart. We gotta go. We only have seconds before the heart explodes.

All right. Let's talk about CPAC real quick. Is this the like so c-pack happens every year basically i feel like it's happened like five times in the past 12 months doesn't it it feels like it's like unless they call them all relatively the same fucking thing right i feel like we keep hearing about c-packs happening right like is it like comic-con where each city can have its own comic-con or is this like the annual c-pack and it just happens to be in Texas this year. I don't know. And I don't care. But during CPAC in Texas over the weekend, a lot of people were cheering the idea that they the crowd that they themselves were amongst and you know constituting had a low vaccination rate this is because they had a guy on one of the speaking panels named alex baronson who is like a self-proclaimed quote covid contrarian and this dude is so full of shit with his nonsense that the

atlantic ran a piece about him called the pandemicemic's Wrongest Man. And I'm just going to play this clip. He went on Tucker Carlson right around the time when that came out. And just to be like, and Tucker Carlson's like, what a hit piece, just because you're asking questions. And I just want to play like his, how he owns this label of wrongest man, despite his like chest out, terrible conspiracy theories. I'm just going to play this really interesting to sound bite. But they're attacking you because you deviate from the script. I just find that chilling. I do. Well, I'm very fortunate in that I have a lot of people around the world, you know, actually around

the world who email me sort of quietly and say, you should read this study. You should look at what's happening in Hungary, or you should look at, you know, this paper that just came out of France. And so I have people helping me. But yeah, I, I, I do think, look, even if I'm wrong about all this, and I'm not wrong about all of this, it's useful to have me. And it would be useful to have other journalists asking hard questions, you know, even if I'm wrong. It's useful to have me. I have people sending me emails. I will have, you know, like, yeah. So he's relying on the fact that enough people agree with him that he's received several emails. Yeah. This sounds like, you know, I used to get emails, too.

They were called chain emails. AOL from my aunt in the 90s. I'd be like, don't be careful sitting on a theater seat. It could be a tainted needle to give you some kind of disease. It's like the same energy of, yeah, getting emails. Sure. Okay. Thank you.

But yeah, that guy was speaking at this CPAC event. And yes, he had this to say. He got the crowd cheering like the fucking Undertaker came out of a coffin or something. Oh, not the Undertaker. With coffin or something right here yeah they were hoping the government was hoping that they could sort of sucker 90 percent of the population into getting vaccinated and it and and it and it isn't happening right there's a younger people what the fuck what the fuck woo it's not happening

it's unbelievable how partisan this has become because meanwhile in places like Missouri they're experiencing severe spikes in cases because of the delta variant and it's unvaccinated people that are getting the worst

of it and this like especially like around Springfield, Missouri, the low the rates are low, somewhere as low as 14 percent in terms of people being vaccinated. And it's just clear how this is happening. And again, Fauci said this like a couple of weeks ago is that you're starting to look at two Americas. There's there's parts of the country that are vaccinated and are dealing with, you you know smaller surges and ones that aren't are just unvaccinated and it's just it's just turn up city in terms of positivity rates yeah it's very frustrating and because like a lot of the people who aren't vaccinated aren't anti-vax that's the funny thing about there's anti-vax people and we all knew that going in like there are going to be people who just aren't going to get the vaccination because they're anti-vax for whatever reason we can feel however we want to feel about those people but let's take

them out of the equation a large majority of a certain political group who aren't getting vaccinated are doing it because they're quote taking some type of stand against their owning the left and it is so it is it is i i just don't understand like i truly think that we have different fucking brain functions because i like that just doesn't compute in my brain i don't understand it at all. How you could be like, wait a minute, the liberals want us to get vaccinated? Hmm. I've never felt like this before.

But now all of a sudden I feel like I don't know what they putting in my body. I don't know. I ain't never felt like this before. But I'm scared of all these side effects. Get the fuck out of here. In a way, it it's like how do you blame them though too because when all you watch when your entire media reality is people saying like you know what's gonna happen it's this it's that we don't know uh plus if you have an immune system and you're human then you can uh you can protect yourself you don't need this other stuff it's just i think

yeah it's a it's a combination of so many things it's a combination of misinformation and it's and it's terrible to watch that at the end of the day like that they're cheering on something that is actually you know potentially going to put them at severe risk but i don't know i mean it feels like it's just a natural extension of how sort of, you know, political ideologies are a lot of the times. Like when you say, how can people vote against their own interests? Well, yeah, well, they don't know what their interests are. Yeah. And the thing that makes me mad is, you know, Donald Trump's old bitch ass got the vaccine. Tucker Carlson's old bitch ass got the vaccine.

I'm just asking. You know, Candace's old ashy, neat ass got the vaccine as well. Like, all these people got the vaccine who are telling, no, don't you do it. It's your body, your choice, blah, blah, blah. And they pretended, like, all these months, they got the fucking vaccine. And that's the part that pisses me off, because all it would take is one of these misinformation floaters

to just say, it's OK, do it. And it would open up Pandora's box for so many fucking people who are not getting the shot and who are cheering at CPAC 12 about, you know, not being vaccinated. Like it's something. Don't get me started. Like it's something don't get me started. It's just and it's not like satisfying when people die. It's just sad. It's really, really sad. There's a nurse, a registered nurse, Olivia Guidry, who died from COVID complications over the weekend she's a really pretty young lady from lafayette louisiana i believe who had just like you know come out and been asking questions and you know following the lead of some of these

anti-vaxxers and she died of covid and people are like you know trying to shame the people who she retweeted who had the anti-vax takes but it's just like it's just like, it's not, it's just a fucking mess. It's just a mess. It's not. It's a mess. And the part of it that makes it more of a mess is like, look, let me say this too. Just to show that I have a full brain and I can think, you know, in multifacets. I understand if there are some people out there who legitimately have concerns

about what they view as a vaccine that was created very quickly, right? And don't want to put things into their body because they're legitimately scared of what that could mean. And that's, again, low information as far as not being educated properly. Like my mom works on an education team for vaccines. So like, you know, these vaccines weren't just created within the past year. They've been working on the coronavirus vaccine for a very long time, you know, so things like they don't know that. I understand there are people out there like that, right? I understand there are people out there who just don't have the information. I also understand there are people out there who are just scared of things like needles, you know, and don't want needles. I saw that clip. Yeah. Oh, it was, that's,

we're going to talk about that later. But here's the thing, outside of all of those people, like, we just don't have a streamlined way to get information out there because we make it so easy to put one thing online and millions can run with it. And you just don't know what is true, which is why it all stems back to just the information that's out there. And if you have people in your family, like I do, who are, you know, black people be scared of vaccines. I get it. Who don't want to get vaxxed because they don't like my aunt is like, I heard it just makes you sicker. And I'm'm just like that's not where did you hear that and don't tell me i got people in my family yeah just yeah you didn't hear it and don't tell me cousin ronnie told you to do more just to get more shots later yeah it's

ridiculous but it's like i already had it so i'm good and i'm like that's not a reason also there are variants please please but yeah i mean and I think that's what makes this situation even more uniquely fucked up is because there are many roads to arrive at a place where you are denying yourself some kind of scientific intervention that could protect you. But yeah, it just seems like at this rate, it's going to continue. I'm not sure how, you know, what it's going to take unless it's enough people to realize oh a lot of my friends that are unvaccinated are getting really sick and the people who are vaccinated are not maybe that's the unfortunate you know too late anecdotal evidence people need to see but that's not gonna happen because we had a whole year that shit and nobody get in so a lot of those people didn't give a fuck so right there going to be an Olympic team star in swimming.

This dude, Michael Andrew. Keep an eye out for him because he is the favorite in the 200. He's probably going to win gold for America. He qualified for the most events of any swimmer on the U.S. team or tied for the most. And he is an anti-vaxxer. Not an avowed anti-vaxxer uh his his reasoning is uh just because everyone's heading in one direction why do we have to follow that direction

the kairi irving the kairi right because well he should take that advice when he get his dumb ass in the pool when everybody is going one direction you go ahead and try to swim the other direction and see and see if you win gold or not you dumb ass like come on now come on now but yeah i you know the u.s olympic team has deprived us of you know all the exciting people to cheer for but at least they've given us somebody that we can hope just like sinks to the bottom of the pool like a fucking stone when he jumps in. He's like, I'm going for deepest, quickest in the 200. What? Okay. Okay, Mr. Contrarian.

But yeah, I mean, I guess we're seeing it at every level. At every level. Yeah. And I was even talking to some other friends of mine, too, and things they're going through with their family. I've been talking to some other friends of mine, too, and things are going through with their family. And it's it's really astonishing how sort of clearly defined that take is, especially with conservatives. Like it's it's just like the you know, that's just part of the culture war. It's one of the battles that they have to do their work on, which is I will not get vaccinated. Clearly defined and poorly thought through.

All right. And finally, there's a new study from the University of Victoria that questions how accurate the media-driven notion is that most people end up together with a love at first sight or an immediate attraction type situation. And the idea that if you start out as friends like you're you're friend zoned and that's not good they find that most successful couples or couples who

have been together for a while started out as friends yeah saying two-thirds of like a study they did of like almost 2 000 people of romantic relationships started out platonically. And then this they say like they did this study because about like friends first initiation is what they call it. When they looked at other studies about how relationships begin, almost like three fourths of them were just specifically looking for like the spark of romance between strangers rather than an evolution from friendship into romance. And only 8% of the studies previously centered on romance that develops among friends over time. And they said there was very little variation across gender level of education, ethnicity, and found that the rate of friends first initiation was even higher among 20 somethings. And within the LGBTQIA communities, 85 85 of such couples began as friendships although look i'm a little dubious but at the same time i think that's only because massive media has

informed so much of what i think life is yeah i'm like come on man really friends like that but if i'm gonna be you know keep it a buck like me and her majesty we started off as friends yeah and later on you're like oh shit like this is like you get to know somebody like yeah i think a lot of our shit lines up rather than like the horny strangers who meet at a party and like it's on from the right it's so funny too because there's this notion that a lot of people subscribe to where if we're friends i don't want to ruin the friendship or I don't want to risk our friendship if a relationship doesn't work out. And listen, I understand that.

I'm not down in that at all. If that's how you feel, I think that's legitimate. But it always be the motherfuckers who be on their 15th relationship. And it's like, like man i can't find nobody out here man all you motherfuckers out here it's trash every and it's just like well you got somebody who you enjoy spending time with you talk to and laugh and they know you you can be intimate like not physically but like emotionally with and all these things and i understand you

want to keep those friendships but it just is i don't understand how we shut ourselves off to the idea that this is the foundation that we should be building for an actual relationship and that more people don't go toward that route it really really surprises me. I truly, that's why I said, like, even me being dubious, like, and I say that more jokingly, but I truly think it's because I've consumed so much media in my lifetime from childhood on that over and over this message is reinforced of like meeting someone somewhere. And then like, boom, sparks fly that it's and then this idea of like this friend zone thing that is inescapable is like another weird construct, which isn't like a universal law of human interaction, but like a thing that's, you know, frustrated men come up with. Yeah, I think is like really, you know, I think all comes together for me to really take a second be like damn like it's it's not really often i don't think i've actually ever just met somebody and then immediately sparks flew like it was like oh you see him there you see him there there's a couple group things you chat and again yes that may mean that you're attracted to the person but it was more just like okay there's something attractive about this

person rather than like i will only fuck this person and friendship is off the table like i don't know if i was always thinking like that but i know some people do because i think that's sort of the examples that were sort of fed yeah we have a policy in this household we only fuck right no yeah no friendship this this feels like another it's interesting that it's 20 somethings and lgbtq plus communities i don't know this just seems like another example of like younger people becoming more responsible with time like then like previous generations it was like a lot of uh i i think they had more affairs in like the previous generations in the older days the boomers had more affairs in like the previous generations. In the older days, the boomers had more affairs than like modern relationships. It just feels like.

Multiple secret families. Yeah. You know, people averaged two and a half families per household. Two and a half nuclear families. Because back then you couldn't text nobody and be like, yo, your husband cheating on you. Yeah, exactly. You know, you had to catch them when they was in the crib and had to hope they wasn't on the phone. So you got the busy signal.

He just works a lot. Yeah. Every weekend he drives up to, he drives two counties over for business. You can't check. You can't check. It's only one car in the household. Yeah. Turns out he was going up the street.

This feels undoubtedly like much healthier, like you guys were saying. A much healthier way to build a relationship is having different looks at it at different levels. Every relationship should evolve. Yeah, and not to say you can't just start off hot and heavy and then you're a romance. Yeah, sure. There is that. But I think we have this. I think what we I think we put out of our minds the possibility that you can you can evolve a relationship. Not to say that you can fuck your friends.

And because we're friends. So that should be the launch board to romance. No, but the idea. That's not what we say in miles. Absolutely not. But the idea that you can actually build on something and work, and it can evolve in that way. Yeah. Jack, with your wife, were y'all friends first, or were you just, you're like, I love this woman?

With your wife. My wife. It definitely went through different stages, but we never dated in college i think there was always a an acknowledged like spark there but like we had other significant others in throughout college so we were just like friends for a while and then yeah it was probably like five six years of being friends before we eventually you know but i think it was different from like one of those things where it's like, well, I don't want to ruin the friendship.

I think we both kind of knew if the situation was right, we were into each other. Right, right, right. But, you know, but on some level you developed a friendship.

Yeah. And like, by maybe what you, your ulterior motive, we had a relationship even when we weren't like dating or like romantically seeing one another yeah yeah i will i will say that i think and i haven't crunched the numbers on this because i lost my calculator but i think that the numbers of failed relationships that started off as friendships that or you were friends and then like you started to see them

romantically and then you went for it the number of failed relationships that start that way is probably just the same if not slightly lower than the number of failed relationships that start the traditional and i'm putting that in quotation marks, way that we think of relationships starting. And I know there are horror stories out there of people who hooked up with their friends and they tried a relationship and it didn't work out. Of course there are. Like, yeah, if you look for A, you'll find B.

But I also know many fucking friends who started to date somebody who they were friends with for a long time. And they're like the happiest they've ever been in their entire lives right now. So it's like, you know, there is no I say, you know, whatever feels right. Go for it. Stop building bricks in front of the road you're driving on and take away the roadblocks that you give yourselves for some outdated notion that we subscribed to in 1942. And this isn't like to say that like this is the only way for someone to have a healthy relationship. But it is I think it does challenge this idea that like we all have of like what it means to be friends. this idea that like we all have of like what it means to be friends and a lot of times when you're friends with somebody and like maybe you take it there you get romantic usually if your friendship strong enough and it doesn't work out you you're cool enough to be like you know what that didn't

work but we're still friends actually to this day and that's cool because that's just we were exploring things within like a very good foundation of friendship yeah but yeah i think for somebody who was raised on 80s movies with boobies in them yeah sometimes i i struggle with uh my idea of how courting works from time to time sometimes you want to see some new boobs you know i get you man i see what you're saying i found you miss new boobies i i can't top that we should go out on that it's been a pleasure having you thank y'all so much I'm sweating where can people find you and follow you

once I get off this toilet y'all can find me in these streets and of course remember what I told y'all earlier if we get the boy to 10k I'm about 1800 on800 on Twitter away. Instagram is a longer story. I'm about 5,000, 6,000 away from that, and I'm not expecting that.

But, you know, go ahead and do your thing, and I'll release these unaired podcasts, one of them with Jamie Loftus, a couple improv podcasts, a couple podcasts where we got high as hell and then did improv. We got some really fun ones with some really dope ass people so check that out at jockeys neil on everything yeah yeah uh and is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying yes yes well miles tried to ruin it by spoiling it no i'm joking but But this I can't really like it's not a tweet as far as like this was funny, the wording. But there's this tweet from at fan one. Oh, M underscore is weird tweet. But basically, they went as moral support for their dad getting their his first vaccine. And he's scared of needles. And the video is about a minute and like how long is it it's about two minutes long and it is the funniest shit that i've never seen somebody as scared of

needles but it's in such a charming way that he's scared of needles he's like this 60 70 year old black man wearing camouflage and he keeps calling the lady now miss lady i don't know about this how many deaths you didn't have with this vaccine miss lady the way when she tries to inject him and his body like retreats from her to the point that he is taking a knee on the ground i need you to sit in the chair he was like all right go ahead and put it in the arm down here she's like no i gotta put it in the deltoid he's like the who oh my gosh i'm gonna pin it i'm gonna pin it to my uh if you want to see this tweet i'm gonna pin it to my profile so you can see it. It is a very funny two minutes. It is worth it.

You will laugh. It's charming, but he got his vaccine. So it's a good ending all the way around. So, yeah, that's the funniest tweet I've seen in about the past two, three weeks. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Follow me Twitter, Instagram at Miles of Gray.

tweet you've been enjoying follow me twitter instagram at miles of gray also 420 day fiance twitch.tv slash 420 day fiance uh for that 90 day shit check that out there um a tweet i like one is it's just this picture of uh it's like of sonic the hedgehog like jumping on a t-shirt and it says i'm not a player i'm a gamer players get chicks i get bullied at school and i just felt so fucked up but i just love when i just love a sonic t-shirt and then one more um in the wake of everything that happened in the euro cup final beth louise at beth x louise xx tweeted if instagram can flag up anything covid related and add swipe up links within seconds why can't they remove racist accounts and delete racist comments yeah that's that's something to think about yeah i like to tweet by uh speaking of that whole thing just watching

bill burr like kind of go through the world cup final and when the the euro cup final when the shootout was going on he said this is a terrible thing to do to people which i was like yeah that's true it's fucking cruel that's what i always say yeah it's a cruel outcome yeah whoever fucks this up should be immediately put into protective custody and relocated to a new country and he also wrote that jesus christ this is boring earlier so real roller. A tweet I've been enjoying. Cody Wimmer tweeted, airplane mode but for thoughts. I like that. That's what like podcasts

are for me sometimes. And then at Kimmy Monte tweeted, hey, how's life? Me. And then a picture of a church that is called Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today, and forever. Which is an amazing name for a church and a great answer to that question. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.

We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song are we sending them out on? I've just been, you know, dancing to all kinds of music in my headphones, always trying to keep the mood light.

I was just listening to some old Iranian Persian music from the 70s. We've done a track by Gugush before, but this artist is called Marjan and this track is called Kavire Del, K-A-V-I-R-E-D-E-L. And it's based off a Turkish song, but this, this like 70s Persian pop shit gets me going. So I just love it. And I love the melodic scales that are using that music and her voice is super dope so check this out this will definitely get your your toe tapping and you'll feel some type of way

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