The Daily Zeitgeist - Billionaire TEAR$, Where Are My Likes?! 11.12.19

Episode Date: November 12, 2019

In episode 514, Jack and Miles are joined by Scam Goddess host Laci Mosley to discuss Bloomberg running for president for the billionaires, the impeachment moving along, Instagram changing their 'like' system, YouTube closing your account if you're not commercially viable, if Drake is still cool, and much more!FOOTNOTES: WATCH: The Vilification of Billionaires Makes No Sense to Me - Cooperman Jeff Bezos asked Michael Bloomberg months ago if he’d consider running for president Sanders, AOC react to Bloomberg's Presidential Bid Bernie Sanders on Twitter: "Tonight we say to Michael Bloomberg..." Longtime GOP Rep. Peter King Announces Retirement Instagram Will Begin Hiding Like Counts as Part of a U.S. Test Next Week Youtube says it can delete accounts that aren't 'commercially viable' WATCH: Skinshape - After Midnight Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 108, Episode 2 of To Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and say officially off the top fuck coke industries and fuck fox news it's tuesday november 12 2019 my name is jack o'brien aka hey oh let's go brian as courtesy of hannah saltis and i'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Everything, everything for the Zeitgang, for the Zeitgang.

Yesterday, I woke up serving takes on Trump. Yesterday, I saw Biden hit a slump Yesterday I found that movie pass is dumb Yesterday I blew the whistle on him, he's mine Oh, wow. Thank you so much to Craig Griffin and Charmofnensive. Tom York has one of the highest voices in the world, and even he was using electronic

vocoder things to hit those notes. I have range. I'm impressed, man. I mean, that was all about heart. That AK was all about heart. It was all about heart, just like the fantastic rom-com Last Christmas starring Emilia Clarke and Harry or Henry Golding.

I can't remember which H name it is. Miles is out here putting in the work for the Zeitgeist. Such an amazing film, y'all. Maybe I'll tell you guys. I just want to give my review at some point this week, and I'll tell you all about it. It's wild. It is absolutely. I got the spoiler edition of the review,

and it's everything I could have hoped for and more. Paul Feig. A Paul Feig joint. I can't believe it. I cannot believe it. You can tell. You can tell. It's a master.

But we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the very faces on Mount Zeitmore, the hilarious and talented Lacey Mosley! Hey! What is up, Lacey? What's up with y'all? Y'all was giving me, okay, Miles and Jack were giving me shit because I was napping

on the couch downstairs. I was not giving you shit. Yeah, you were. I was worried about you. That's what it was. That's even worse than giving somebody shit because then it's like, are you okay? You were laying in the dark. Usually you come up and you're just a burst of energy

and then today you didn't come up into the writer's bullpen. You just, we heard you enter and then just silence and we came downstairs. I texted Miles and told him that I was laying on the couch. Yes, exactly. That's what I knew. The lobby, the lights were completely off and you were just on your back on the couch.

So I just wanted to know, like, I want to be sensitive. Can a black woman rest? You can. And absolutely well deserved. What'd you like him to say? Get your ass up off that couch. I was like, I'm so sorry. I just wanted to make sure you didn't have a...

Mr. Miles, I'd get in the booth and put on the microphone right now. And you could have had a migraine. You could have... We don't know. No, because I like the text I get from you after you come in the office. I don't hear you. I just hear the door close. I'm on the couch downstairs.

Didn't have the energy to come up. LOL. Okay, but see, I put a LOL, so you read that. You got to go back and do another line. Didn't have the energy to come up. Yeah. Hey, and come to find out, it's just because you're out here securing all these bags. You don't have a lot of energy in your tank.

That's all it was. Hardest working woman in showbiz. Lacey, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. We're going to do a quick check in with the impeachment story. Girl, I'm talking about impeaching this creep. It's really going to get going later on this week. And for people who don't know, I'm saying, I'm talking about impeaching this creep. It's really gonna get going later on this week. And for people who don't know, I'm saying,

I'm talking about impeaching this creep. Yeah. A lot of people just think I'm saying we're talking about impeaches and creep. Impeaches and creep. Uh-huh. All right.

Whatever. You were too dead on. It was like a weird Al Parade. I think I wasn't enunciating. I should have been if I was really going off like VO lessons. I'm talking about

impeaching this creep. Uh-huh. Yeah. That would have been better. Definitely. Look, I'm just trying to be slim from 112 Uh-huh. Yeah. That would have been better. Definitely. I'm just trying to be slim from 112 on a daily basis. We are going to talk about Mayor Michael Bloomberg's potential run for president again. Because, you know, our headline the last time we covered this on yesterday's episode was

Bloomberg is here to soothe the concerns of the billionaire class. But we were saying that like figuratively. Right. Like that seemed to be the the concerns of the billionaire class. But we were saying that figuratively. That seemed to be the way that things were lining up. Now we are going to be saying it literally, because that seems to be literally how this idea came together. Motherfuckers are crying. Yes. Crying.

Billionaires are shook. They're fucking crying. Billionaires. Billionaires are crying. I'm sorry. The idea is absurd. About the prospect of being taxed. Wow. We're going to talk about that.

We're going to ask the question if Drake is not cool anymore. We're going to talk about Instagram's pending decision about getting rid of the like button. Like counts. This is like all my over-enters. Is it? Yeah. All right.

Well, shit. We might get to all of this sooner. I'll try to stay away a little bit, I guess. We like to ask our guests, what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? My search history was billionaires. Wow. Billionaires. Yeah.

Okay. I guess I'll talk about the other thing that was there. Post office hours. Post office hours. Okay. Okay. I don't think that I should have to go to the post office no absolutely no oprah doesn't go to the post office no she does not why should i it's like it's like the airport where there's just a bunch of nasty people getting together and coughing only you don't go anywhere you just stay in the it's miserable you wait in the line you do

the minutiae people kind of yell at you yeah and it's like off the rip like i just got came in and they're like over there go over there this line is for packages and i'm like ma'am i just got like why are you yelling at me right yeah my favorite is you go to the post office and there's one uh one of the workers is either like they're angry at everybody. And then suddenly one person shows up and they're so nice to them out of like all the people. They're like, I told you, if you're putting in a package that's going internationally, please fill out a slip over there before coming up. And they're like, how can I help you, baby? And then someone else comes up and they're like, I'm shipping something internationally.

I don't know what's going on. Like, no, don't just write it down. Right. And they're like i'm sipping something internationally i don't know what's going on like no don't just write it down right and then like i said get back in i just like i like when some because sometimes you become the favorite yeah you never know what you get in the i think you have to like adjust your energy it's the same thing that i do in stand-up uh because when i first started doing stand-up and this is wow y'all are gonna probably roast me for this but um i'm pretty and people don't want to listen to women talk in general. And then if you're a pretty woman doing stand-up, they definitely don't want to hear you talk.

So I used to always kind of come in with the energy, just a little lower, let my jokes surprise people. Like, oh, this pretty woman has funny thoughts. So you have to do the same thing in the post office. They're like, she can't be pretty and confident. Fuck her! Yeah, I like pretty and haunted.

Now that's what I'm talking about. I want to date a pretty woman who ain't got no mirrors in her house. Exactly. I like that. It won't intimidate me. No, but so I come in with lower energy into the post office, like kind of sad. One, because I'm sad to be there. But two, because I think that disarms the postal postal workers because if you come in with too much confidence

or if you're in a rush oh don't be in a rush at the post office oh hell no they smell that and they're like I'm gonna fuck you up and also don't come in there chewing gum with sunglasses on that's bad energy when I see people like that in the post office like with their fucking sunglasses on I'm like this person is about to get on somebody

your package ain't even gonna make it they're gonna throw shit straight into the trash. Straight into the trash. But the randomness of choosing one person to be nice to, that's lesson one of population control. Right. Like the lottery, where it's just one person gets stoned, and that's how you keep your town in order.

Oh, shit. Yeah. That's an instruction manual, right? I think so, yeah. That's not a work of short- I was like, were they hitting a blunt in the parking lot? No. Oh, no. No, when I was younger, I right? I think so, yeah. That's not a work of short literature. I just didn't get stoned. I was like, were they hitting a blunt in the parking lot? No. No, when I was younger, I'm going to take the judgment out of my voice, because there

was a site that I used to get on, rotten.com, I think it was called. Yeah, we bring it up once a week. Probably, yeah. Really? Yeah. A lot of fake stuff in there. I know. Enough to keep you interested in medical mysteries.

And medical mysteries, like dead celebrities, like all types of shit. Oh, yeah, Tupac autopsy photos. Who among us has not seen a Tupac autopsy photo on Rotten.com? How could you not? Who among us? With his chest out. You can throw the first stone. And or peg.

And that one could be. Let he who hasn't seen the Tupac autopsy photo. That's where I saw the JFK autopsy photo for the first time. Rotten.com was kind of like my doorway into dark fake history. Yeah. Cause sometimes shit, there would be real photos. Other times it would be like clearly.

Yeah. You didn't, but at the time you didn't know cause you thought the internet was, everything was real. Right. And I imagine the person whose job it is. They're like, we need more content.

Okay. I'm going to Photoshop. JFK's head. Just like a grizzled editorial veteran looming over the staff at Rotten.com being like, I need another one. Give me another Topsy-Toy. What's that office like? Do they have the crime?

What is something you think is underrated? Y'all get it. Influencers. Underrated. Why? Obviously obviously we'll get into the whole likes thing and instagram stuff later but i see especially because of that stuff i've seen so much stuff on the internet about like oh well that'll shut down these fucking influencers and fuck them and like they don't have real jobs, and blah, blah, blah. But I think everyone fails to remember that... You can speak about it first person plural. We, as influencers.

We. Guys, we have feelings. But I have definitely seen something on the internet at some point or another on Instagram, or on Facebook, or on Twitter or on Twitter and been like, oh, that looks like a cool thing. I want to try that. And then I go try that thing and I get enjoyment. But guess what?

If I had nowhere to discover that thing, I don't fucking walk down the street. I don't fucking... Walk down the street. You made it sound so fancy. I don't just go into random buildings and be like, what y'all have for me in here? What's going on?

What is in store for me in here? I wouldn't find out about those things. And that happens to all of us. Yeah, we want to pan and condemn these people for creating a career by doing shit and then showing us the shit. And then we go do the shit. Right. That's literally all it is.

Well, I think there's two versions of criticism. There's ones who are just haters because they would rather. But that's most of them. Yeah. And then there are, I think, other people who see the mirage that influencers sell that contribute to weird, fake, or unrealistic expectations of life. But I think that that's just. But that's really up to you if you can filter through that shit. I don't personally have a problem with it.

It's when I see influencers act like they are God's gift to whatever the fuck. That's when I'm like, hold on. Remember where the fuck you're at really quick. Right. Like you have the privilege of being able to just sort of commodify your existence to make money.

And that's your job. Respect, you know, get your paper. But I think... Because there was like a person who left a one-star Yelp review. We were trying to talk about it a few weeks ago. Oh that's your job. Respect, you know, get your paper. But I think, because there was like a person who left a one-star Yelp review we were trying to talk about a few weeks ago. Oh, I heard that. Yeah, where an influencer was pissed

because a restaurant didn't hook them up with enough free shit because they were an influencer. She's not an influencer. She had 11,000 followers. I have 11,000 followers. I'm not an influencer. I'm not selling anything.

You're a deity. I am a goddess. Yeah, exactly. Don't say yourself short. No, but I get that. And that kind of inflated, stupid ego person, I think, though, is like casting a bad shadow on what is not the whole industry. And also, I don't like the argument that, well, people and children are looking at the Internet and they're getting sad because everyone's life looks better than theirs. You know what?

Before the internet, that shit was still happening. Ted does not have a green lawn. He dyes that shit. And you've been looking at Ted's lawn all thirsty as hell because his shit is green as fuck. We're in a drought right now. Do you think he's using water at night when we're asleep? How the fuck does Ted have a green lawn? How do we keep up with the Joneses? Where did that

phrase come from? Yeah, meanwhile, Ted is probably eyeballs up in debt from Lawn Dye. You know? People are out here faking the funk everywhere you go. You know what I mean? People are lying about their status. They're lying about their money. They're lying about their happiness.

So it's not like if you take that part of the internet away, that that sadness isn't going to still exist because it's just a human thing. We purport, we puff ourselves up to make ourselves feel better everyone does it and so i just think that we have a more instant access by just looking at your phone but guess what if you go outside somebody lying to you right oh yeah yeah right now on this show and i mean we have more realistic uh ideas of celebrities than they did in the past. So we've had them taken down a peg or two. But then our everyday lives, the people we look to as living their everyday lives are maybe being a little less realistic. I think advertisers themselves are the people who are actually underrating influencers. actually um underrating influencers in the sense that most of our generation we're not we don't vibe with the same kind of advertising our parents did where it's like hey fuck yeah look at this

shit are you this could be you yeah are you a woman who loves to clean and cook for her man i'm sad and i want the life and body of this Instagram account. What is that selling me? And subconsciously it works on you because it's selling you this actual, you're like, is this a real life I could have? Like this person's account? And you're like, I do want to go to there, to that place, to eat there, to stay there, to consume there. And I think that's like the difference now is like we, you almost need the trust of somebody or the the consumer has to trust the person and that's really where your advertising is going to be more effective and that's that's that's where I think advertisers get that like people crave authenticity now I just think it's hard to deliver on yeah you know because there's

no way to deliver authenticity through advertising because your whole purpose is inauthenticity. And influencers have been, like, except for the ones that are really successful and can charge a shitload of money, like, most influencers are tainted the second they get, like, one offer. They're like, fuck yeah, like, I have band-aids for life. Yeah, we're doing band-aids. Hey, I'm cutting myself all the time in the kitchen because I'm so clumsy with this knife thank god for a wedding dress made of band-aids yeah uh listen that's lit though if you go far as to cut your own finger to just advertise band-aids right hey devotion something you think is overrated lazy civility civility yeah especially in these times um i see so many people getting upset about uh you know people booing or people not being nice to them because they don't agree with their politics.

And it's like, I'm sorry. If you are living in America right now and you really feel like this MAGA shit is for you, I'm going to boo your ass. I'm going to be rude to you. If you come to the restaurant, I might spill water on you. Don't let me see you in a hat. Like, it's not. We're so far past civility like people are dying and and it's so so many people have the luxury of not caring about that because they don't face it so it's like if you're not gonna face it in your

guess what my black ass is here to help you face it every day like i'm not being polite to racists i'm not being polite to people who are fucking killing us. Well, that's the difference. And I think people use the term civility to obscure the argument, which is I am outraged at injustice. It's not like your politics I don't agree with. It's that you are racist or that you support racism, fascism, homophobia, xenophobia. That's what the fuck I'm against. It's not that, oh,'s well they just think differently about it's like no you actively hate a group of people yeah and you're okay with their demise

it's not thoughts it's not your idealistic like ideology whatever it's literally you are down with murder and you are fucked up so like I'm not gonna treat you like a human cause you don't treat me like one and this is one of those arguments I'm super tired of hearing the other side kind of both sides it,

where they're like, oh, you're going to be rude to Trump and say lock her up? Or lock him up? That's just as bad as everything they've ever said. No, first of all, the underpinning ideology of everything he stands for is genocide genocide essentially it's like you know it's racism it's you know hatred uh and yeah it's it's just the that's the thing that you hear you hear both sides that is really frustrating yeah and i don't want to hear that from democrats either you think you're being the bigger person but shit it's that bigger person shit it's a rap it's a rap for that yeah you can be such a big person and then the game is over i know we're gonna bigger person ourself

into the grave yeah right no and then i think that's kind of why that's why i think now the stances people have to take are more pronounced and more extreme we're not extreme in the sense that it's too much but this is where this is the end of the spectrum where we're at because we've exhausted all the right you can't be vague anymore in politics. We need to know exactly what you mean. Are you racist or no? Or no. Yeah.

Check yes or no. There's no maybe. And send the note back. Fold it back up and send it back over to me. Are you racist? Yes, no, or please be civil? What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false?

Something people, okay. That white claws are like better for you than any other like malt beverages at the grocery store. I've seen so many people buy white claws and be like, yeah, but it's seltzer and it's hydrating. I was like, it's malt liquor. Wait, people, you've heard someone say that it's seltzer and it's hydrating. I was like, it's malt liquor. Wait, people, you've heard someone say that it's better for you? You're still consuming alcohol. But it's just like how people will say

filtered alcohol, if it's more heavily distilled, it's better for you. Okay. It's like a really, really purely distilled vodka or something. Impurities are gone. Yeah. And you're drinking.

Well, you're less likely to get hung over from it apparently sure yeah i mean there's sugar in that shit too right you stack a few white claws are white claws sweet yeah there's a little bit it's not like meant to be like oh that's sweet but it's it's definitely not just like it's not as if you're just drinking a lacroix plus alcohol like that's what people think it is yeah there's a little bit of sugar in there there's obviously you know you're drinking um a LaCroix plus alcohol. But that's what people think it is. Yeah, there's a little bit of sugar in there. There's obviously, you know, you're drinking. It's alcohol at the end of the day. If it was a LaCroix plus alcohol, then, yeah, it has 100 calories per serving.

And those are alcoholic calories, which... Which is still not very high when you think about, like, a shot of vodka is 80 calories. Right. So it's still, like... Yeah, it's 20 calories of sugar, basically. Yeah. Which isn't much.

But it's just like, I see people like, they're really like, it's the LaCroix of alcohol. And I'm like, it's like an old English white claw, same thing. Right.

Yeah, just one's cheaper. I think, yeah, because I think they've done, they've really found that sweet spot though, because LaCroix and like the Seltzer game has lended people. Like, I can get hydrated and not feel bad. And, you know, this is fine. To extend that into alcohol has been the perfect thing to now just re-energize people to be like, no, man, I just drink White Claws.

I'm just trying to keep my shit pure. Yeah, I don't drink beer. I just drink White Claws. Yeah, there you go. I'm just trying to keep my shit pure. Yeah, I don't drink beer. I just drink White Claws. Yeah, there you go.

Yep. All right, Lacey, before we get into our first story, I'm going to need to talk to Miles really quickly. Miles, it's me, Jack from work. Yes. I wanted to tell you about this thing. we covered it, but it bears repeating that over 100 million people had their personal information stolen in a Capital One data heist. Wow. Call them out by name. And there's a good chance you were affected and I'm worried about you, man. No, that's actually I was. I went to the website. Oh, really? I very much did. Yeah, yeah. You're one of the ones? Oh, yes. I was one of the fortunate 100 of million people

who got selected by the, uh, data breach gods. I didn't bother going cause couldn't happen to me. No way. There's no way. Well, I mean, I think this is the thing though. There are so many ways that we're vulnerable with our information and especially with our browsing, we take that for granted in our internet activity. It's all out there for people who want to see if they want to see it, they can find a way. That's why using a VPN is so important. I use a VPN. Jack, I know I've slowly gotten you to use it too. ExpressVPN is fantastic because look, there's so many things that you can use a VPN for. Do you want to maybe use a torrent website legally? You know what I mean? And then you can,

or you can also keep your browsing history private from an internet service provider. You can get maybe geo blocked websites. So a lot of the times I like to see soccer highlights in Europe and they'll be like, Oh, I'm sorry. This,

this, this content is restricted from where you are. I click my VPN. I say, I'm in the UK, bruv in it, bruv. Boom.

Do they make you take a quiz like that? Yeah, they say, yeah. It's like one of- How do you pronounce brother? It's like prove you are Brit. Which one of these is a Lori? And it'll be a picture of Hugh Laurie, Lori's seasoning salt, and a bus.

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I hope, God. Because if it's anything like the fucking Mueller shit, it's going to be a piece of shit. Oh, that was trash. It was like, we have nothing. They've said that they're like, we learned from that, though. We learned from that. Did they? I mean, I think they were probably probably like don't get a geriatric

dude up there whose voice is not as booming as you think it is when you look at his photo i don't the president did it's in there it's in there and director mother what who so one question i think people are uh thinking about heading into this is how this will help democrats because there's never been a lack of information like people have been informed that this happened kind of right from the jump so it will just be a matter of whether it changes qualitatively how they think of what happened and how bad it is. Because right now we're just relying on paper receipts to outrage people. We're like, we've got transcripts. Look what this guy said on this paper.

Read the words. And then now we're going to go to full verbal confirmations. and then now we're going to go to full verbal confirmations. And I think maybe that's what they can hope for when you have people like Bill Taylor or Maria Ivanovich go up there and from their voices tell you, this is what the fuck happened. I'm here, a real person. You're hearing me talk. Yeah.

And I think they really need to focus on the connection to the 2020 election. The fact that what he was trying to do was cheat at the 2020 election. Use his power to do something that endangered our standing with an ally, helped Russia out. And the goal in the end was for him to be able to get an advantage in the 2020 election that is not allowed. All kinds of national security implications all over it.

Yes. You invite the participation of a foreign government into our elections. You think they're there because like, yeah, we would love to help the United States do what's best for the United States as Ukraine or whatever country. Because that's not how we need to do what's best for us. We're going to do what the fuck. Oh, you want us to fuck around? Okay, well, how do we make this work for us?

Right. There's that. Then you're talking about withholding military aid for fighting somebody who is an aggressor nation. And, but you know, I think it's interesting too that a lot of people have been talking about whether or not they should keep using quid pro quo. Yeah.

And sort of a lot of the communications around this because it's, yes, I get it at first when you're trying to compel maybe like Congress people and other people who have like legal, they understand legal vernacular that the Latin phrase like, oh yes, I quit pro quo. But now when you distill it down to the people, that shit might as, who knows,

that could be a tongue twister to like the average person. And I think a lot of people are saying, we need to call it bribery, extortion, and inviting foreign influence that would threaten our national security all in service of this president's personal goals. And we can dumb it down even further from MAGA. You scratch my back, I scratch your back crime. Yeah, exactly.

But even then, 62% of those supporters are like, dude, honestly, he could blow the fucking Capitol up and I don't give a fuck. They don't care that he's doing crime. They're totally fine with him doing crime. Some people are fine with crime. I love scams. I support people who do those types of crimes. I love it. I mean, that's the thing that it comes back to, though.

That poll that we talked about on a previous episode that he could do anything and they'd let him get away with it. a previous episode that he could do anything and they, and they'd let him get away with it. Like once this is over, assuming he's still in office, which he will be like, he's going to keep trying to cheat at the 2020 election. Like there's just no, so yeah,

I don't know. Like trying to foreground that because Republicans issued their list of witnesses they'd like to call. And it's just a bunch of like, you know, conspiracy theories. Yeah, it's just noise. They're like, why don't we bring Hunter Biden up and have him answer a few questions? Like, OK, what's he going to say? This is about the president leaning on Ukraine.

They're still trying to get information on Joe Biden. They're trying to use the trial to get it. Like, bring Biden up here and let's talk about his dealings with his father's company and figure out something right and that's why democrats like we're not interested in that that's not what this shit is about yeah and i think that's also shows republicans don't have a fucking fact witness right to rebut what is happening yeah they don't have anybody who was there to be like nah the motherfuckers are lying right everybody who is there so yep that happened how many people need to call trump they would have to call Trump. They would have to call Trump, baby. Yeah.

Or then if you look, right, John Bolton and now Mick Mulvaney is like hopping onto his lawsuit to be like, who do we, which parent do we listen to, Congress or the White House, whether or not we should testify? Like, eventually, right, if Mulvaney and Giuliani or whatever, all those people don't testify, the pressure is going to build on one of those people where it will look like they are the fall person. And then what happens then? Right.

When will Giuliani go, oh, hell no. Right. Like you think, let me tell you something, homie. I put my AirPods in upside down. Every day. Yeah, every day. Not because I don't know how they work, but because I'm playing a long game and I'm a snake

and I will fuck you up if you try and come for me. Although I don't know what they work, but because I'm playing a long game and I'm a snake and I will fuck you up if you try and come for me. Although I don't know what's going to happen with Rudy. But, you know, eventually it will be a bit of a knives out party where everybody's trying to figure out who's going to stab who. And they're really going to have to consider that because we all know that Trump doesn't have any loyalty when it comes to the people who work for him. He'll let you take the fall very easily. He's fired so many people from his cabinet. He'll let you take the fall very easily. He's fired so many people from his cabinet.

And so you have to know that if you stand tall long enough, somebody will get the hit. Well, that's why Lev Parnas, one of the associates of Rudy Giuliani, who is doing around the world Ukraine quid pro quo campaign with him. The second he was arrested and Trump, Mariah carried him and was like, oh, I don't know her. That's when he told his lawyer, I'm talking now. Right. Because he he was like this motherfucker tried to act like he doesn't know me okay you're about to know you're about to remember me but we'll see what he does because even then we don't know if he's going to try and get immunity and plead the fifth whatever but you can still tell people are in their feelings oh you know it doesn't matter there's no i don't there's no such loyalty when you know no uh honor among thief how many people were on that phone call?

I don't know, maybe like five, six. There were a lot of people on the call. Yeah, there's apparently that's not uncommon for when a president is having like an important official call with another head of state. Well, he just. We doing crime on three way? On five way? Yeah. Hey, hold on.

Who's on? Mom, hang up. Right. Hello, hello, Mom. Come down here and do these dishes. I can't get in trouble for what I'm about to say, Mom, because I told you to hang up. Mom, hang up! Yo, have you ever been...

That reminds me, back in my day, we used to three-way call on a landline. Yeah. I remember... Have you ever been caught by your parents listening in on a phone-way call on a landline yeah uh and i remember yeah have you ever been caught have you ever been caught by your parents listening in on a phone call on your line oh yeah where somebody calls for them and then you're like okay hang up yeah and then you're like have it on mute exactly yeah man i remember my my friend's mom caught us talking about weed once on the phone and then my mom like act she one time listened in on a call i was having

with the girl but but acted like she wasn't spying on like she didn't care but i'm like but you're on the line right right she's like i don't know maybe it didn't end up in any smoke for me but i was like what the fuck was that i mean y'all parents was nicer than mine if a boy called and his voice was too deep they just ignored the call. Oh, shit. Yeah. You can't talk to my daughter.

Hello? Yeah, lazy home. How old are you? Oh, no. Yeah. 14. Oh,

you 14? Plus 20? They would just hang up on them. Then the next day at school, they'd be like, I called you and your mama said you weren't home.

I'm like, I'm always home. She never let me go nowhere. You said you had clarinet practice? Yeah. I played the clarinet. Guys, let's talk about billionaires. I'm always home. She never let me go nowhere. So you had clarinet practice? Yeah, I played the clarinet. Guys, let's talk about

billionaires. I'm worried for them. So the storyline seemed to line up too well. You had Bill Gates coming out being like, if it was between Warren and Trump, me, a person who claims to stand for liberal values and human

rights around the world, I'd have to think really long and hard about who I'd vote for because she wants to take lots of my billions, not all of them, but lots of my billions. So he was getting worried. You could see other billionaires getting worried. A lot of people in the financial industry talking about how like they wouldn't uh they'd sit out the election if it was elizabeth warren because of her taxing them yeah and then bloomberg enters the race and it's like wow it seems causal but surely we'll never find out there's a causal link yeah people call him the uniter yeah like he could actually unite both wings of the party

turns out it was based on a phone call that Bezos made like a couple months ago, or at least we now know that Jeff Bezos called Michael Bloomberg and was like, hey, so what are you doing for the next like couple years? Yo, you want to help me out real quick? Right. Because, you know, I got all these Amazon and fulfillment employees in my basement while they do the tours. They're trying to like unionize and shit.

They want to use the bathroom and shit. But there's this clip that really drove home to me like what I think I often fail to appreciate about billionaires. And I think we have the clip. Yeah, this is Lee Cooperman who is a fund manager, only worth about $3.2 billion. Not a lot. A broke boy, as we might call it, in the scheme of things for billionaires. But it's interesting to see where we've gone, right? We've gone from billionaires sort of threatening their coins real quick, like when it comes to political contributions, like, hey, man, you better have the right candidate for us.

We might sit out. Yeah. And people weren't fazed by that. Right. They're like, OK, whatever. you better have the right candidate for us. We might sit out. Yeah. And people weren't fazed by that. Right. They're like, OK, whatever. We'd like these candidates. And then it's like, well, maybe, you know, it would be fucked up if somebody, you know, took our money away because that would be really messed up.

And now we're at the crying phase. Right. We're at Lee Cooperman. We cut there so fast. Yeah. Well, they realize, too, there's more of us than there are them. Oh, yeah. We're coming for them.

At the end of the day. And yeah, just hearing this guy. First, he talks about why he's a good person, why billionaires are not bad people, unethical, immoral people for hoarding wealth while other people cannot achieve anything. Okay, I reduced government red tape and promoted deregulation. I bolstered our defense, national defense. He's talking about Trump.

His deportment is not presidential, and we need a unifier in that position because the country is being torn apart. So let him make his own decision. I am not in favor of all this impeachment inquiry. I want the American people to decide in November of 2020 what the future should be. I think it's kind of obvious people can not only see the emotion on your face, but hear it in your voice when you talk about this, Lee.

Why? Pause to gather himself. I care. I care. I'm going to swallow it. That's it. I care about my coins. Please don't.

Not my coins. Please don't make me be poor like the rest of you. The whole time, again, he goes back and forth trying to half be like, well, yeah, Trump's bad. But also like these tax breaks are fucking fire. Right. I love them. And again, let's not worry about impeachment. Let's just have the election that he's trying to cheat at.

That's what the impeachment is about, you guys. Yeah. Well, but hey, look, my billions, my billions, as you say. Then goes on again, because as they talk about it, he's like, you know, but y'all are hoarding wealth. You know, like, what do you say to this? You have so much money. And then Cooperman sort of discusses his plan of what he's going to do with his wealth,

but then he really gives up the game at the end of this soundbite. And I told him at the time, my plan was to give away all my money, not half. Give away all my money. And then my game plan is half I'm going to give away in my lifetime, and the other half I'm going to give to my family as a legacy in the Pullman Foundation, where they can meet periodically and give away the money. So, go ahead, I'm sorry.

Go finish your thought, Lee. Well, I don't need Elizabeth Warren or the government giving away my money. Just tell me what you think the maximum tax rate should be. Stop talking about 2% where you're basically misrepresenting the facts. It's 2% of wealth. It's 2% of my wealth. Every year I have to figure out my net worth and give 2% of it to you. And look, I said I'm going to give y'all the money, okay? So y'all just wait until I'm dead and I'm going to give it to my family. And then they're going to meet up periodically.

Right, yeah. Just as many opportunities for them to just take a little bit more money. They're going to meet up periodically. I can't even say the word. This drove home to me how you don't become a billionaire by liking money the same amount as the rest of us. You become a millionaire by like having a pathological like obsession with money sexual like just like everything emotional bond with your money to the point that the idea that elizabeth warren would raise taxes on you yeah would make you weep

yeah on national television that shows you i mean, look, for people who have so much money to give a fraction of that away to help other people, right? That's what this is about. It's not so Uncle Sam could fucking pull up to your Sweet 16 in a Bugatti. Right. Right. And be like, ha ha, because we pay for this shit. Right.

No, I mean, because that's how the system works now. But like what we're talking about is being able to create more equity societally. And these people, again, because their whole existence is built off of this notion that some people siphon up the wealth. Other people got to scrap it out in this other game called poor people life. Right. Right. And I mean, there's 621 billionaires.

And I think we just really need to get one of those Kanye slave nets he was talking about that plays a little trap. Artisanal cheeses and old worldwide yeah and trap them and take their money this is what it's it's awful and it's you can't call yourself a good person if you are knowingly hoarding wealth that is literally killing people yeah we talked about it I think on here with the Koch brothers which one of them died of pancreatic cancer but had made so many strides in that research because he was trying to stay alive for himself people are now surviving much longer with that type of cancer but it was built off of like yo i need to live forever and i guess the knock-on

effect sure is there's meaningful cancer research but really this is about me right right so what would happen if we had the resources to do that for all types of diseases or the resources to help people escape cyclical poverty? But your sick ass want to sit at home and on your yacht crying about how much money. Like you won't even miss it. You won't even miss it. How about like if they're so concerned, right? Why don't they all chip in a billion dollars? Each billionaire chips in a billion dollars and then buy themselves some time. If there was like an effort where they're like if they were really smart.

Right. They're like, we've put together a fucking six hundred billion dollar fund to tackle homelessness and poverty worldwide. Right. They might buy themselves some goodwill. But right now, all their energy is spent on, well, you know, because Elizabeth Warren's mean and Bernie Sanders says we shouldn't exist. And I get that for these people, right? They in their minds probably are like, but this is the system, man. Like, what the fuck y'all doing?

I just figured it out and I'm top earner. But at the same time, that's where they need to have a come to Jesus moment to say, maybe this whole thing that I came up in is fucked up. Right. But they're never going to have that because people don't have empathy. I fundamentally think that so many people lack empathy. And I think that struggle, it must be what creates it. And if you don't have any struggles, you don't give a fuck about anybody else. I mean, we're all going to die alone.

We were born alone. It's fucking bleak, but it is what it is. Or you struggle so much your heart turns black. Right. And it's the same. Then you're like, everyone's a horrible person. I can't trust anyone. But, I mean, I don't think people realize how close we are to being back at like storming the bastille like if the

billionaires want to keep telling us to let us eat cake then you know don't catch these hands bill gates yeah like well you're killing our country i think this is what's the the the beauty of what's happening you know even though it's such a fractured political environment that there is a shift a little bit more to looking upward at the people who have a ton of money and being like, hold the fuck up. Can we look up what's over there? What's going on over there?

And they've distracted us for a long time. And they still do very well, doing it very well. But I think people are starting to really notice. Yeah. Well, it's interesting. I mean, you couldn't say that the last election cycle, people were like, billionaire, we need to be talking about these billionaires right we need to be talking about what they have so much money right now they don't know how to invest it right about that last

week or maybe yesterday about the fact that they have so much money they've ran out of investment ideas and now there's trillions of dollars just sitting in banks because they don't they have so much money they literally don't know what to do with it right that's not except for give it to people who need it they know not to do that oh right no that's mine but that's mine that's mines you know so keep crying on tv and we will continue to uh inject that straight into our i mean the the preference for having a foundation with your last name on it as compared to like the giving it to the government who will create a program where it is, you know, a prolonged ongoing system of creating a more equitable society like that ties into like the DNA of America being like this individualistic like, well,, it's all about me pulling myself up by the bootstraps. And everyone was raised on that,

especially billionaires. They bought into it so much that they just, every waking moment was devoted to- Doesn't 60% of most billionaires' wealth come from family money? Yeah, that's probably- It's not, you had Gucci boots, bitch. I don't got no boots. They're like, you pulled yourself up by your great-grandfather's bootstraps right yeah yeah um

and i think that's it's just so sad what capitalism has done to us because it is just such it's so deeply rooted in this country that it's hard to help people escape it there are people out here living paycheck to paycheck who are ridiculing m's employees for wanting $15 an hour when it's like you are broke yourself don't you want everyone to have a living wage well that's one thing that Bernie and AOC were saying is that like the one thing you got to give them credit for is billionaires have class solidarity man they like this I can they see they hear the bat signal they're all all in right yeah exactly literally the bat signal right watch he comes down and

fucks up elizabeth warren and bernie get the fuck out of here you're making it fucking hot excellent batman yeah but yeah when you look at like even what the the gates foundation like what the endowments are like spending or what their money looks like it's only like not even three billion a year right think about how much like what they're getting back in stock and things like that like oh we're trying to create an equitable world with a person for fraction of our wealth he has more money today than he did when he retired bill gates yeah that's how much money he's given away maybe we should start writing children's books we need to indoctrinate the kids early because like i remember being a kid and getting asked what my dream job was and that's still a thing like a dream job

it's a job right yeah i do something that makes me very happy and i'm very privileged and blessed to do that but at the end of the day it's still fucking work like i don't know if life should be about work right yeah no absolutely i mean because that's what it's about you work to create capital and boom work to live or low-carb yeah i think yeah we just got to tell these kids you know like fuck fuck the flex too because i'm serious like consumer culture too is the reason why people ultimately want to side with them because that's a lifestyle that we still hold up on this pedestal like yo fucking p-jet everywhere you know mean? Fucking go stay in suites, doing fucking spending money, have a Gucci, fucking everything.

There's that element too that also keeps people at the forefront of their minds as to why they want to work hard too because there's a bit of a lifestyle mirage that we're all trying to attain in our different versions of too. But only 621 people are billionaires, y'all. How many people are in America? So how long

are we going to let them kill us? The 600 people who are actively killing us. 7 billion people in the world. That's not a fair fight. We say 600 on 7 billion? Yo, let me catch these people outside. Yo, it wasn't a

fair one. It wasn't a fair one it wasn't a fair one man it was 600 or 7 billion at the AMC parking lot man I did not expect that we don't know how they all got to the AMC parking lot traffic is crazy it was all there everybody

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Yeah. Ether. Yeah, they might ether. Sorry, I had to. That's been in the ether, and they might ether the, that's been in the ether and they might ether the light count. What's the idea behind this? I don't, first of all, they took away activity. So you couldn't see how thirsty people you followed were. My goodness.

I'm actually mad at that. It's also because now you can't calculate the proper time for you to post a picture. So on certain days and every day, there's a prominent time where your users are the most active. So if you want to have the most reach on a photo, it used to be before they changed the algorithm and started like showing photos randomly. It was all about the time that you posted. And then when they changed the algorithm and made the timeline no longer linear, you could still cheat that by going to the audience and seeing if people were liking pictures. So if you would go to the audience and it would be like a couple seconds in between every single like or one second in between every single like from your followers, you knew that people were active and online and it was a good time to post. And they took that away so that you can't know when you should be posting.

And that way they can control what is being seen all they're trying to do is they realize that instagram was so easily accessible for people to monetize and they're having difficulty monetizing themselves so they're taking away everything that we can possibly do on the app to monetize our pages so that people will be forced to buy ads from fucking Facebook. Interesting. And they're cheating it. They're lying and appealing to, you know, people who are probably hurt by this app by being like, hey, we're taking away these likes for you so that when you get one like on that picture of that struggle meal that you posted.

Nobody knows how much of an L you took on that. Nobody will know that chopped up hot dogs and beans got one like. Yeah, we get it. You went on the New Kids on the Block cruise ship. Yeah. Then Danny looks real bored with you. You took a picture with Joy Fatone. Right.

Who was on the New Kids cruise, which is a shame for him. Really weird. Well, he's struggling. Yeah, yeah. Because they used to call him names. But I think it's a double-edged sword because obviously there absolutely is a thing of like, well, y'all can't be making more money than we are. So we have to dip in first.

But I think there is a bit of a benefit though too, I think, for people who might not be actually in the business of posting on Instagram, but sort of caught up in the optics of like how many followers you have, the pressure that people can like, you know, younger people, I think more, especially thinking of like, well, this doesn't have likes. I can actually quantify my self-worth through likes. But it does provide cover, like you're saying, of being like, well, you know, that could have a benefit.

I've never seen a business do anything to help people. That's not what they're for. Purely to help benefit. Right. I've never seen a business do anything to help people. Right. That's not what they're for. Purely to help people. Yeah. Facts. Not even pharmaceutical businesses. Yeah, yeah.

No, absolutely. Especially not them. But yeah, I think that's what they say is right now we're testing. This is from one of the higher ups at Facebook or Instagram. Right now we're testing making like counts private. You'll be able to see how many likes a given photo or video of yours has received, but no one else will. We're announcing that we're going to start testing in the US next week.

He clarified that the hidden number of likes would not be rolled out to users in the entire country at once, but to a small group. And I think that like when we talk about like the billionaire class, I'm not comparing influencers to billionaires necessarily but like if you're talking about people I guess who get lots of attention and if that's what everybody wants there's not a lot like most people's instagrams are very normal and like just pictures of their kids right like you know it's not them on a jet you know right so I could see how that would be beneficial to those people yeah, and also people, just a public service announcement.

Pictures of a newborn child too soon. Ooh. Not a good look. Air that baby out first. Let the baby's head form a little bit. Yeah. I go back and forth with Amy Miller, past guests, where we send each other photos from what we see on our timeline of people posting fresh out the womb babies.

Because they're not, I get it. You're celebrating your life, but also the cuteness probability is very low for a fresh out the womb baby. If the baby would have like a hair dryer first or something. Yeah, well, not even like necessarily in the delivery room, but I just see ones where they're like two days old and they're like, look at this child. I'm like, the skin is see-through. Yeah. But hey, but bless it.

And the little creepy baby. It's a circle of life. Yeah. And whenever there's an ugly baby, I just say, the skin is see-through. But hey, but blessed. It's a little creepy baby skin. It's a circle of life. Yeah, and whenever there's an ugly baby, I just say, oh, congratulations. That's a blessing. I will not call an ugly baby cute, ever. Oh, wow. Wait, that's what you post on all mine?

Yeah. Oh, congrats. What a blessing. Congrats, congrats. I'm under you and your wife's photos like, let me know when these kids want to work. Let's get these kids in show business. They got a manager yet?

Cute kids. What a blessed and extraordinary family. Let's talk about YouTube because they- Same shit. Same shit. They are, so now they're changing their terms of service or they're about to change them in December, that says, quote, YouTube may terminate your access or your Google account's access to all or part of the service, YouTube, if YouTube believes in its sole discretion that provision of the service, YouTube, to you is no longer commercially viable. So they're out here basically saying you are making a point right we're gonna fucking ax your shit we'll fire you youtube can fire youtube anymore and i think that's

one again has a dual purpose right on one side people can be like oh this could be great for them regulating hate speech or like you know the red pill but hate speech makes money but exactly but then who knows if that's what that means, right? Right. Versus accounts that might be railing against the YouTube algorithm or their AdSense or these other things. And they're like, actually, this isn't commercially viable because we're trying to appeal to our own advert. I'm sorry.

You got to go. I love that YouTube just sent out an email that was like, hey, listen, we're going to do whatever the fuck we want. Yeah. Right. And you can't question us. Yeah. This is no longer a platform to share shit. Thanks so the fuck we want. Yeah. Right. And you can't question us. Yeah, this is no longer a platform to share shit.

Thanks so much for using YouTube. Yeah. I don't know if that's in response. I know this is huge in the YouTuber world. I think a lot of people have been saying this is why YouTubers, especially creators who have sizable followings, should unionize to be able to protect themselves from shit like this. To be able to protect themselves from shit like this. But I wonder if it's because they've been taking hits to their ad revenue that they've slowly been like, okay, fuck. If this is going to be a profit machine, we literally have to treat it like just a network.

Right. It's like your show or your channel isn't commercially viable because you're giving like hair tips or whatever the fuck it is. And that's so crazy to treat people who just post to your platform like they're your employees. Yeah. Right. Like this started as like, I get it. Like it's monetized like because of ads and clicks and people who watch your videos and subscribers. But to this point?

But like, so what are they saying? Like, y'all better get to work. Yeah. Right. Change your tune up. I mean. Stop talking that politics shit. Right.

If you. Yeah. It goes back to just the, these are monopolies and this is what corporations will do to you. If you know they if they know that you can't go anywhere else, then they're just going to. Right. But I think that's the key. it because Facebook has lived in you know basically monopoly for so much longer than I think any social it has to be the

longest of any social website because before it used to be like oh we're on Exanga now we're on MySpace we own black people meet bitch we going back to black planet right right you know how girls on black planet be when they get bubbly we just need to I don't know let's go back to MySpace.

It's just as bad as Facebook and all your family's still on it. But it's not like the spirit of innovation. It's the fact that they- They're crushing. Yeah, they're crushing everything. They hire like the most lobbyists in Washington, D.C. Like these, Google, Facebook, Apple, and Amazon,

they run shit and they're not going to, you know, there should be seven different competing video players that people are uploading videos to the same way that there's, you know, they're like when cars became a thing for, didn't just get to make cars like from then on everybody, but there were a bunch of different car companies that came in and started making cars but they were like well alright the car game will

grow and proliferate but fuck public transit right yeah yeah exactly that was their version like no no get that up get that the fuck out of here I guess like with that kind of like how we talk about the elasticity clause in the constitution it's like now we have to regulate the internet because now these tech giants are crushing us the same way that you know other industries have monopolized

things and hurt the economy yeah yeah and now they have such a share of people's attention and like really unethical business practices whether that's having like outright manipulative political ads that are deceptive and lies straight up said the KKK is checking our site for lies. Right. And they said no lies are detected by David. Love it. He said we do it real good. Yeah. And I think that's when you see too like that's where their power has become completely ridiculous

and they're like but we're just making money. It's like yeah but no see this is the problem now. You have everyone's ears and eyes. And now this is different. It's become something else. Sorry you got to give up the keys now. Yeah. But that's also the problem with corporations in general. Yeah.

Because once you get to a certain size, you got to be evil as fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I think there's so much energy behind people on the left right now, whether it be locally or nationally. Because there's a lot of things that are lining up that uh are really fucking us over about the way things used to operate that need to

be changed uh and it's also why people probably are lining up on the right and ready to have a violent revolution if trump gets impeached but which is so crazy to me because people on the right are suffering if as much, if not more, than people on the left. The right, their base is all poor people. Like, I mean, it's poor, the poorest of the poor and then the richest of the rich and like a little bit in between. Yeah.

So it's like you guys are hurting. But their main goal is just to maintain white supremacy. Really. That's why it's they don't care what the president does. Yeah, but white supremacy ain't even working that good no more. Yeah but that's the but that's the currency they're dealing with. It's not as lit as it used to be. I know but again try and tell them that because they hearken back to a time where like I remember when a black person served me. Right but we're not gonna go back there I'm gonna keep slurping on the same water fountain as you sis. Yeah but I'm saying this

is they're they want they want to go to TBT time machine. Right. And but it's too late. Yeah we're not going back to slavery y'all know that. Like it's I'm sorry so they they want to go to TBT time machine, but it's too late. Yeah, we're not going back to slavery. Y'all know that. I'm sorry. So they want to cut out these different versions. So they're like, fine. We'll let them find police brutality. Let's arrest a guy for eating a chicken sandwich on a fucking subway platform.

Yeah. That's what I love. That's that shit. Because that's the only way I can get my jollies now. By thinking like, well, that wouldn't happen to me. Right. All right, guys. jollies now by thinking like well that wouldn't happen to me right uh all right guys i want to i want to ask is drake officially like not cool anymore is that has like that as a sentence he

got he got booed off stage at uh camp flogna which is like the most sceny of scene kids tyler the creator it's a it's a cool sort of more hipster hip hop. You know, not hipster. You know, it's all the Odd Future fancams. All the Odd Future fancams. All right. Which, again, that's its own scene, you know. But when you think about, like, a lot of Odd Future fans,

I don't know how many of them really like Drake, like what that overlap is. Because I get that Drake is Tyler, the creator, is one of his favorite artists. But a lot of people, it's a mixture of them just being like, fuck Drake. But also, I think a lot of people also thought Frank Ocean was going to come out.

Yeah. And when Frank Ocean did not come out, and they got maybe the opposite of Frank Ocean, if you're like an odd future, you know, Wolfgang, Kill Em All, Day One, Flog Dog Kid, then yes, maybe that would draw you the wrong way but i don't think i don't look he's clearly not uncool anymore because the motherfucker he's still gonna he's still gonna sell records like they're going out of style so right that

that was just such a humbling moment to watch i was humbled in that moment i wasn't even on stage i'm not even drinking i'm not even Yeah, that's what the fans thought, basically. Yeah, basically. Drake. The fans literally put on Gucci headbands. They all became Soulja Boy. And they were like, Drake. Drake.

You mean the one with the kid? Where else? Why hide the world from the kid? The kid? Where is Frank? That's who he came from. It's crazy to me, though, that he was performing. And obviously, this is a very tepid crowd.

Right. And then he goes if y'all want me to keep going I will and I don't know why he asked that because

he should have just performed to them I think he's being very Canadian at that point he asked for their consent and they said no would you like

a few more songs oh okay I've never seen that and it was at a concert and then there's a little video afterwards where the crowd realizes

that Frank is never coming on because they're thinking that Drake was the opener was the opener yeah they realize that Frank's not coming on and you just hear

this one man shriek and fall oh really he's like Frank ain't coming that's crazy I mean but they should know I feel like Frank Ocean

was supposed has been billed to play the Off Future Carnival or Camp Flognon every year, basically, and then like bails out at the last moment. Or I feel like everybody, usually on that bill every year, one of the headliners is a no-show. And then someone else comes in. Or there's like an emergency Kanye set. Well, maybe that's their scam where they're like, look, we're just not going to tell them that Frank's not coming because we don't want them to not buy the ticket. Right.

I mean, it was a huge show, though. Huge show. Yeah. I haven't been to a Flognaw in maybe five years, but it's a vibe. Yeah. Kids are all very, it's like really not on some bullshit. I was surprised. You know, like everyone's very chill there all it's like very much everyone's kind of

about the same thing there it's not a bunch of different people like they're like no we all love Tyler and everything of the Odd Future universe yeah

it's not like Coachella-y yeah yeah right okay that makes sense then because that was my other thing because I was like nobody

nobody yeah that's what I was confused about a lot of people did but I think it was a mixture of people who A A, probably didn't have the expectations set so high. And even Tyler said that on his Twitter. He's like, okay, I think it was a mixture of people having fucked up expectations and then reality hitting them.

But they were like, no, Tyler made us believe, led us to believe that possibly Frank Ocean could come on. Yeah, I think that you kind of do. But I don't think that he— But that's called selling, baby. Yeah, it is. but i think he underestimated how excited people were for sure and drake was doing all his emo music look drake has some sad boy shit that's like you know like he was doing like so far gone when they started booing yeah right which is tyler's favorite song yeah which is why i did it and he's like he didn't have to do album cuts uh well it is the number two trending thing uh but hopefully damn drake i think and also drake can recover from this people people like seeing drake get kicked yeah that's

what i'm he's like one of those few people who like man i like this song and also like to see him get shit on right yeah yeah drake if you can hear me out there get you a glass of Moscato yeah go to your favorite Houston strip club I mean from day one people I've heard that opinion like yeah I kind of like his music but I hate him for whatever reason I can't like figure out why well he's the

Taylor Swift of rap right yeah you know he's only worth 150 million disgusting he's like he's very poppy he's Right. Yeah. He's only worth $150 million. Ugh, disgusting. He's very poppy. He's always on the radio. I think when you get to a point of high saturation, people just start hating on you.

Right. Of course, fatigue. Yeah. Drizzy fatigue. Do we think that has begun? Do you think this will make it more mainstream? I think this is happening to be him in front of an audience who is very enthusiastic and quite literally

wanted the polar opposite when he pulled up. Drake could get booed if he showed up at Stagecoach. You know what I mean? He was like, I'm about to set it up. I'm pretty sure he would get booed there. So there's always an audience that won't like you. But I don't think that it means that Drake fell off.

We'll see what the next album is. Only the next album will know. We'll also see if the perception of this being a huge L takes on a life of its own. Is that what the pieces are about? It's like, I think Drake's done. I don't think they're saying he's done.

This is a different crowd he was in front of. I just think it's, you know, it is what it is. It's a video of him getting booed off stage. Yeah. I mean, also, you're doing an odd future show. Like, they have a very specific taste.

So, Drake, you knew what it was when you signed up. But I think he kind of thinks that all, because, you know, he's eclectic where, he's like every other pop star

where when there's a hot sound happening, he's doing it. Remember last time we talked about him doing the British rap and then gave that up real quick,

thank God. So, but I wonder, like like who is universally loved like if if beyonce had came out would they have booed beyonce offstage that's a good question i guess so yeah you're saying there's levels to it right like even if you don't fuck with beyonce would someone have if stevie wonder came on would they have booed stevie wonder blind ass offstage what if that's wow you know if something like that happened then you'd have real takes out here right these kids are full of shit because some people already were coming at the fans being like of course these like young gen or gen z kids who think yo we're trying to be original but only shop at fucking vintage stores type shit right Right. Like, what would happen if they booed somebody who everyone's like, no, no, no.

Don't. Please leave Stevie Wonder alone. Yes, please leave Stevie Wonder alone. Oh, my God. That would be so hard. That needs to be the surprise guest next year. Can't plug. No.

Did something happen? Is Donald Trump here? Fuck Stevie. What? Oh, my God. it would hurt me. Where the rest of your brain's at? Yeah. Why'd it start so far back?

You got a rat tail? You got a bunch of rat tails back there. Oh my God. Yeah, but obviously Drake's not on the Stevie Wonder legend level. Well, Solange performed at Camp Flogna. She was fine. So I'd imagine. Solange is quirky.

Her whole brand and shtick is like. That would have been the true test to see how anti-mainstream those kids would have been. Right. If Beyonce came out. Yeah. Yeah. But then also like that energy. But the energy though too.

You know, if you're at a concert and you need a certain energy. If an R&B person came out suddenly when I'm on like some. Well, I guess they also want to see Frank Ocean. So they weren't really there to like rip their faces off. I don't know. I feel like anybody like when Beyonce appears before you feels blessed that Beyonce, like just whether you like her music or not. It's like Beyonce decided to be here. And breathe the air that I'm breathing.

But that could be a generational difference, right? A 19 year old might not give a fuck. Yeah, that's true. They're like, yes, that old people shit. But you know what, right? A 19-year-old might not give a fuck. That's true. They're like, yeah, that's that old people shit. But you know what, too? I will say this. Drake is not a very exciting person to watch perform. No.

His music is pretty slow. He cannot dance. He works the crowd, but he's really just kind of walking around and being cute. Frank Ocean can play the piano. Frank Ocean is a dynamic performer and can sing. Drake cannot sing and will sing. Insist on that, yes. So in conclusion.

There's also probably those drawbacks. Go see Drake live. He's amazing. His songs are great at loud volume. That's all that music has to be. You want to go get drunk and then go to a Drake concert and dance and you don't really have to look at the stage. And you'll know every word actually. You're just there to turn up. You're just there to turn up. Because I then go to a Drake concert and dance and you don't really have to look at the stage. And you'll know every word actually. Yeah, you're just there to turn up. You're just there to turn up. Because I've been to a Drake

concert and there was one point where I guess he was trying to do some fan interaction thing where he was on this big wheel that they lifted into the center of the concert hall. And he just walked around and gave people compliments. What? For real? Yes, this was a part of the concert. What kind of compliments? He'd be like,

Hey yo in the pink dress, you beautiful girl. You beautiful. You in that blue skirt. You working that blue skirt. You queen, I see you. You hot. You hot as hell. Hey, girl, I want to be with you.

Like, literally just walked around and gave. Doing affirmations for people? Wow. Hey, you are worthy, okay? Who else? Sir, there's a light in your eyes that I really, there's something about you That makes you want to believe in love

Again It was so bizarre I didn't realize because I was so young at the time But it was so bizarre Right He's just spreading positivity I guess Lacey it's been a pleasure as always having you Where can people find you

Follow you Hear you Guys You can find me at D-I-V-A-L-A-C-a-l-a-c-e on all the internets and you can also find my podcast scam goddess um on all of the platforms and it's just about me talking about scammers and how much i love them um it's true con not true crime so nobody dies and uh is there a tweet you've been enjoying yes there is a tweet that I have been

enjoying and I'm pulling it up right now okay the original tweet is actually I'm going to share two this is my own tweet I got in trouble for on Twitter but it was fun ladies all the good men are taken so go ahead and put on your Alicia Keys

braids and do the unthinkable and then this is one from nl vasi so there's a video going around about a woman who was proposed to at someone else's wedding and so people were like do not propose my wedding i'm so serious and then nl vasi retweeted and said don't even come heavily pregnant to my wedding because if your water breaks security will escort you and your disrespectful unborn child out. Disrespectful unborn child. Disrespect. Yeah.

And then you would hold a grudge like when it's born. Yeah. They're like, oh, this is Darren. Definitely want to grab my face. I'm having my wedding. It's your baby. Yeah. Did you imagine?

The baby's first birthday? You pull up with the priest and everything. You're like, dearly beloved, happy birth. Dearly beloved. We're gathered here today

for my motherfucking wedding, not this embryo. Miles, where can people find you? Embry-ho. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram At Miles of Gray I'm just picturing some Disrespectful birthday

You should use that in your text chain with Amy Yeah right First one is from Molly Lambert Did I say Miles of Gray Twitter and Instagram Great moving on Twitter I like Tweets I like Molly Lambert Okay rumors Me grooving out to rumors i don't know why it's still still hot still hits uh and then this was from yudoya travis at professor doye if you refuse to eat with your

hands your dick is trash i will not explain my logic here if you refuse to eat with your hands yeah no i get that that makes sense. But then also, I know people whose dick is trash and they eat with their hands. So there might be exceptions to the rule. They only eat with their hands. Yeah.

Oof. Gotta keep the fingers strong. Yeah. Keep the fingers strong. I have a Molly Lambert tweet that I've been enjoying. Read a blind item yesterday that said Freddie Mercury

fucked Jim Varney and good luck getting me to think about anything else ever again. Jim Varney from the Ernest films. That blew my fucking mind. That's a fascinating combination. Yeah, that is, right?

I hope that's true. I do too. It needs to be true. true yeah and then that makes me think vern was actually freddie mercury the whole right so he says vern it's actually like a wink to his past lover freddie mercury someone else's all right vern he's like can we write this movie yeah can you imagine yeah there's more freddie murky watching earnest bits through a TV His eyes fill up with tears And at Miller High Life H-E-I-G-H

tweeted, I think about this tweet all the time and it's a screen grab of an old tweet from Thomas Gorton that says Attenborough has no respect for crabs always gives them ridiculous music they're jesters to him which is such a great yeah it's a BBC nature

documentaries joke but deep cut deep cut but seriously for the people who know lay off the crabs man you can find me on Twitter Jack underscore O'Brien you can find us on Twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on Instagram we have a Facebook fan page and Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what's that going to be today? This is a track from producer from Dorset in England, Skin Shape. And it's called After Midnight. And it's a great just sample-based instrumental track. It's, again, it's vibey, you know. And it feels like after midnight.

This feels like some shit. You know, the days are getting shorter. You know what I mean? Yes, they are. And go outside. Smoke you a blunt. You know? Put this in your headphones.

Does anybody else feel like this year, like, daylight savings is off a little bit or something and it just gets dark earlier than usual? Yeah, the planet's going. Right. Wait, what do you mean? Like, comparatively? Yeah, compared to years past, like, this year it seems maybe it's just something that you notice every year and I forget that I notice it every year. But anyway, somebody shout out to me if you've noticed the same thing.

It just seems like. But there might not be a scientific basis for it. You're like, who else is hallucinating this? We're not hallucinating. Everybody on Twitter is saying it's getting too dark too soon. And I believe Twitter on this one. But they say that every year. I feel like I'm in Alaska.

They might not be talking about the light though. Fucking Twitter, man. This is garbage. But yeah, I don't know. I think I will say that it has taken me longer to adjust.

Like, usually like by day four after the switchover, I'm like, oh yeah, this is it. And then I'm like, oh shit, it's already. It feels way later. It's making me mad. I've noticed that. The duration for me to get used to it is it. And then I'm like, oh shit, it's already. It feels way later. It's making me mad. I've noticed that.

The duration for me to get used to it is longer. Not necessarily that I feel like this year's different from that. Maybe we're talking about the same thing. I think that's the same thing. Because we normally just like the clock shifts and we're like, oh, okay, this is the new time. But right now it feels like I walk outside, it's broad daylight, grab my keys, come back outside, and it's pitch black at 5 p.m. Even a week later from the daylight savings, my internal clock is still saying it's an hour faster than it actually is.

And I mean, time is still, like, not to get too philosophy 101 on you, but time is still an arbitrary thing. Like, their decision to move it back an hour is still like we're all working around, you know, so I'm sure there are some years when moving it back an hour, it does like get a little darker earlier and some years less. I think it's because Mercury is in retrograde. Yeah. I also think that might be true that Mercury is indeed in retrograde.

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