The Daily Zeitgeist - BiTo 2020, Worst Best Picture Oscars 3.1.19

Episode Date: March 1, 2019

In episode 339, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Atsuko Okatsuka to discuss a mobsters thoughts on if Michael Cohen will survive prison, possible presidential run announcements from Beto and Biden, what is going on between India and Pakistan, Trump's summit with Kim Jong Un, a check in with Mr. Mark 'I Am Not Racist!' Meadows, Pam Northam pulling a Ralph, a weak gun control bill passing, Vulture's list of best picture winners, and more! Plus super producer Anna Hossnieh joins to talk about the Benjamin Netanyahu's indictment. FOOTNOTES:1. EXCLUSIVE: Gambino mob heir predicts Michael Cohen will get WHACKED in prison because 'inmates love Trump and hate rats'2. Joe Biden is getting advice from social media executives on how best to appeal to young voters3. Sources: Beto O'Rourke won't challenge John Cornyn for Senate, paving way for presidential bid4. Why the War for Kashmir Burns On5. Trump’s Talks With Kim Jong-un Collapse, and Both Sides Point Fingers6. Prosecutor Moves to Indict Netanyahu on Corruption Charges7. Netanyahu’s new rival is surging in Israel’s polls8. IDF Peace Cartoon9. Sara Netanyahu, Wife of Israeli Prime Minister, to Face Fraud Charges10. Mark Meadows: “How dare you call me a racist!” 11. CPAC is completely beyond parody folks12. Pam Northam, Wife of Blackface Enthusiast Virginia Governor, Hands Cotton to Black Students During Tour of Governor’s Mansion13. 26 Democrats join Republicans in support of gun control measure that jeopardizes immigrants14. Every Oscar Best Picture Winner, Ranked15. WATCH: SALES - Off and On Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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New episodes every Thursday. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 71, Episode 5 of Der Daily Zeitgeist, the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Friday, March 1st, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack O'Brien, Jack O'Brien, Russian sounds are coming to get me. Attacking Cuban embassies. I'm going underground with the moles.

Digging holes. That is courtesy of the one, the only, Christy Yamaguchi-man. Christy Meme Donut. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Take that, take that, take that. Miles, Miles, Miles, can't you see?

Sometimes your words just hypnotize me And I just love your hottest takes Guess that's why they broke and you're up, Gray Wow I mean, I really do Just to let you guys know I do twist cabbage off instinct It's the first thing I noticed about you

That I was like, I've got to work with this guy Yeah, I mean, I twist cabbage off his head. Look at that instinctual cabbage twist. And my pink gators. I mean, seems for my hooligans in Brooklyn. I mean, dead right. If the head's right, Miles there every night. Yes.

And thank you to, don't let me forget you now, Hannah Soltis. Soltis Hannah. Wiggity wham wham wazzle, as your display name for that. You know, Biggie, a.k.a. Wiggity wham wham wazzle. Yeah. That's pretty good. Out here doing big things. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat once again by the hilarious comedian,

Atsuko Katsuka. Hi, thank you for having me again. Give her the dance hall sirens one time. Oh, my God. Brr, brr. Dance hall queen. Wow, wow, wow. Twerk queen. Truly an honor. It is. Dance hall queen. Wow, wow, wow. Twerk queen.

Truly an honor. It is. It is an honor to be in your presence. How you been? I've been good. I've been good. It's, you know, 2019, and I was sick for like a month and a half, so it feels like I'm just seeing.

Wait, really? I'm just seeing this year. Oh no. It's great. You had like just a cold or something? Yeah, like cold, fever, year. Oh, no. It's great. Yeah, like just a cold or something? Yeah, like cold, fever, flu. Ooh, damn. Getting back and forth between my husband and I.

Oof. That's the worst. That's okay. Keep it in the family. Y'all look great. You've been keeping it moving on the social meds. I was saying your dance videos with your grandma are amazing. They're wonderful. wonderful thank you thank you

and they make jack very jealous i think that i need to make her an account yeah yeah like lily hayes i mean lily hayes is out here getting getting hers with her her son putting her on blast all the time do you ever do you follow that account? I don't. No. Grandma? It's this dude's mom. She's this Israeli woman and her accent is wild, but she's super funny and he's always like just fucking antagonizing her.

He's like, leave me alone! It's like Tom Green. Yeah, just like fucking with your parents stuff, but she also likes to dance and shit.

It's just, look, follow Lily Hayes. The Israeli accent is fucking awesome. She's like, you're crazy Lily Hayes. The Israeli accent is fucking awesome. She's like, you're crazy. Yeah. Do you want me to hit you in the eyes?

There's one where she says, do you want me to hit you in the eyes? She just turned into Schwarzenegger there all of a sudden. Yo, her intense, it's just that immigrant mom fire she spits, though. So even me, not having anything to do with Israel or anything, or white people, I'm like, I recognize that energy. Or anything. Yeah. Yeah.

No, it's very empowering. It sounds like. Shout out to all the intense moms from other countries who will scream at you in public. That's right. Well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about the continued fallout from Michael Cohen cohen's testimony yesterday uh in the mobster realm uh we're going to talk about some new 2020 announcements for democratic presidential

candidate and we might do a quick dumb racism roundup uh and then we're going to have a particularly international second act of the show today not just looking at america's shared consciousness the world's shared consciousness, the world's shared consciousness. There's a lot going on. But first, Asko, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

Well, so I watched Bohemian Rhapsody for the first time last night. I don't know if I... I fell asleep, so it's like a big blur, but... He becomes the queen at the end. He is, yeah. I figured it's so many queen-themed Oscar films. Yeah, the favorite, yeah.

Yeah, just all queens. But I didn't know he had Asian roots. Oh, yeah. So when the film, I didn't, I guess I never thought of it. I was like, oh, oh yeah he was always just Freddie Mercury he was always queen he was always just like a rock star

and then I failed to even like think about what he was made up of and then on screen comes like the character is playing his parents and I was like is he South Asian so anyhow that was the Google search what country are his parents from so they're Parsis so they're Persians Is he South Asian? So anyhow, that was the Google search. Ah, gotcha. What country are his parents from, I guess?

So they're Parsis. Okay. So they're Persians who fled Persia, what was then Persia, to India. Oh, wow. Well, we're going to talk about India a little bit later on. I know. And then they moved to, yeah. India is so hot right now, you guys.

India is really hot. Pakistan is really hot right now. Yeah. That whole region is so hot right now, you guys. India is really hot. Pakistan is really hot right now. That whole region is really hot right now. That's why I brought it up. I'm just kidding. No, but yeah, that's in my search history. Did you watch Favorite? I did not, no.

Oh, the Favorite is awesome. Miles just saw it. I'm a big fan of the director. Yes. Yorgos Lanthimos. Do you like Dogtooth? Love Dogtooth. Dogtooth is so fucked up, but I love it, man.

So messed up. Yeah. It's like one of those movies that I only tell people Do you like Dogtooth? Love Dogtooth. Dogtooth is so fucked up, but I love it, man. So messed up. Yeah. It's like one of those movies that I only tell people who have already admitted to liking it that I like it, because if I'm like, oh, I love that, and they're like, mm. Because there's some real weird shit. Oh, I need to see that. It's about a father who imprisons his children, and real weird stuff happens. Right.

Kind of a weird mind game thing. Is it a thriller or dark comedy? No, it's more like one of those, I don't know, trippy fucked up movies. Yeah, it's not really a genre. Yeah, because even the favorite is sort of, the way it's shot is so, it's very different. I really enjoyed it.

They call him one of the gods of Greek weird wave. Weird wave? Yeah. Yeah, that's a good way of the gods of Greek weird wave. Weird wave? Yeah. Yeah, that's a good way of describing it. Damn, that's a wave I want to be on. I never watched The Killing of a Sacred Deer. That's the one that I haven't watched. Yeah, that one's also really fucked up.

Yeah. But, like, it also teeters on comedy. So, you know, like, he started making movies when the economy crash happened in Greece. Right, yeah. And so I think it was cheap, weird ways to tell fucked up stories with what you have budget-wise. Yeah, and then look at The Favourite now. I had a budget. I know.

A little budget. A little bit of a budge. Yeah. Comedy has really come a long way, I will say. That's one thing I learned from The Favourite. Yeah. Comedy has really come a long way, I will say. That's one thing I learned from The Favorite, because their version of comedy was getting an overweight man naked, putting him in a wig, and then throwing tomatoes at him. Yeah. Blood oranges or whatever the fuck. Yeah. And it's good. I mean, I'm not saying anything negative about that, but it's just, you know, it's become a little bit more. I mean, Jackass was sort of the revival of the Jester culture, you know?

Yeah. No, that's fair. That's fair. It all comes around. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated. I had to write it down because maybe it was underrated in my head too. Oh, I just watched The Dangerous World of Comedy on Netflix, a docuseries.

Oh, with Larry... Yeah, the guy who... The guy who directed Borat. That's right. Larry, the guy who directed Borat. Larry, the guy that can't think of his last name right now. Charles, I think. Yeah, that's right.

I think it is Larry Charles. Yeah. It's really... Yeah, I don't know. Maybe because I've been at home sick, so I think it's underrated, but maybe everyone's watching it. I don't know. I have not've been at home sick, so I think it's underrated, but maybe everyone's watching it.

I don't know. I have not seen it yet. I just started. I heard about it when they were first talking about releasing it and making it, and then I guess it... Did it just come out? Yeah, it just came out. Yeah, people...

I'm starting to hear about it. What is the general premise? I know it's just about comedy in different parts of the world. Right. I mean, he goes to conflict zones. Oh, right. And he's like, is there a stand-up comedian here? You know, and there are stand-up comedians or like humorists.

Right, right. Who make videos and they're like in Iraq or, you know, Libya. He interviews some ISIS guys about their sense of humor. Yeah. Oh, really? They're not that funny. It turns out. No way.

Are you for real? Yeah, yeah. I'm dead serious. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He does. He's like, what are you guys, like, pratfalls? Right. Like, character bits? Physical comedy. Prop comedy? They legitimately are like, yeah, no, we laugh sometimes. Like, there's the, when you're dragging the bodies of people you just killed

behind your Jeep. That's right. You find yourself laughing a lot because it's just funny to watch them bounce around. So yeah, it's like kind of a dark but psychological look at the roots of comedy. Yeah, I heard him interviewed on Choppo Trap House, actually. Gotcha. It was a good interview.

I'm excited to watch that. Was it like super heavy to watch or was it just very interesting was it no it's very refreshing you know you have like you have comedians who were like yeah i was abducted by al-qaeda but then you know when we were getting tortured i think he tortured me less because i started cracking jokes as a way of survival you know and it's like a refreshing it's not like a typical comedy documentary that we've been seeing which which is like. Ha ha. Let's pat ourselves on the back.

Yeah. Or just being, you know, comedians from the 90s being like, oh, I started at the comedy cellar and blah, blah, blah. No, it's like people being like, I was abducted. And I said, you know, I said to the dude who was going to torture me, I was like, please, please, anything but, you know, bottles up my ass. And then I guess the torturer started laughing right and he's like bring in the bottles so they treated him better and he's like oh thank god it's plastic or whatever you know instead of a glass bottle and then the guy would laugh again and like

so it's it's really it's like people who um you know kind of found comedy as like a survival. An escape, right? Yeah, for sure. Damn, all right. I'm going to have to check that out. It's really cool. And as a comedian who, you know, you have family from another country, do you feel like you view like the relationship of comedy to the culture you're in

like more objectively than other people maybe? Possibly, maybe. in like more objectively than other people maybe like possibly maybe i i definitely see like um the beauty of like taking something traumatic and finding the levity of it um but i think i'm still trying to figure out what the question was do i look at comedy more objectively right or like from a like did you relate to it in any way that was like specific to somebody from you know a japanese background like having like have you looked at comedy in japan and like what what things are like found what people find funny there as opposed to in the united states yeah yeah i think I'm still trying to figure that out. I grew up watching a lot of slapstick-y stuff, for sure. I feel like that feels universal.

Right. Even in the States. Well, Japanese humor, a lot of it's based in status. Right. You know, like a lot of the humor is derived from like a senpai-kouhai kind of relationship where one, like a lesser person is being admonished or other like there's a lot of the humor comes out of that sort of status yeah and i think a lot of the humor

that's super funny here or in japan would be hard to do in the u.s because of people's egos sometimes like the super fucking wild shit that's like you know people are like these japanese game shows these people are humiliating themselves is what it looks like to American people because they're like, I would never make myself look like that. But in Japan, people are just like, oh, that's just funny or this is dumb. It's not like, oh, this guy's humiliating himself.

Where I think that relationship would be a little bit different. There's a show that I wish they made in the US that is like, don't, anyway, I don't want to talk about that. Okay. It's a show that I wish they made in the US that is like anyway I don't want to talk about that okay it's a good idea that I feel like someone else someone needs to really develop you gotta save it to make the American version

like when you were like early last year you were like there's this show in Korea called the Masked Singer that somebody should bring over here and then then these motherfuckers and then they got a Korean American to judge it. Right. Ended up being T-Pain.

What is something you think is overrated? Bohemian Rhapsody. What? Bohemian Rhapsody. Oh, okay. You said you fell asleep, right? Yeah. And then I was like,

did I just, it was just a long music video. It was just a long music. And then the songs kept playing in my head while I was sleeping. I couldn't sleep very well last night. I think it's just kind of like biopics in general. Yeah. A little bit overrated, I think.

Because it's just like how good of an impression can the actor do of the real person? But sometimes I'm like, I'd rather just watch the documentary of the real person. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Because there's more, I think, more magnetism when you're actually seeing the real people involved in a portrayal. What's the best biopic you think? Best biopic? I don't know. Does Amadeus count as a biopic?

In a way. Yeah, that was really fun, actually. I liked that. But, you know, we don't really know what he was actually. Is there footage of Amadeus out there? Yeah, exactly. That we don't know about? Yeah.

That was fun. Yeah. And that's an actual historical figure. I actually haven't watched Gandhi all the way through, but that's, I think, supposedly up there. Wow. Yeah. Okay. I mean, Jamie Loftus would say I, Tonya. Yeah. Oh, I, Tonya. I think Malcolm X is probably the best. That one was intense. Wow. Yeah. Okay. I mean, Jamie Loftus would say I, Tonya.

Yeah. Oh, I, Tonya. I think Malcolm X is probably the best. That one was intense too. Yeah. You know, I, Tonya did like really played with the format and that's why I really, I actually liked I, Tonya because it was like, oh, documentary format. And then it was like, you know, talking head interviews to like, yeah, to even talk like

breaking the fourth wall sometimes, you know? Yeah. It was different. It wasn't just like, does even talk like breaking the fourth wall sometimes you know yeah it was different it wasn't just like does she look like her i mean what about super producer nick stump is waving violently a notepad sully oh isn't that just about a single incident though like does that start with sully as a child like no i think i haven't seen it but Start with Sully as a child? No, I think I haven't seen it. It's about somebody. I was going to say Forrest Gump, but that's stupid. Or I think La Vie en Rose was pretty good.

I haven't seen it. Yeah, that one was good. I haven't seen that either. It's about a rose. Yep, it's about a rose. Birth to death. It's about a rose with some wackily painted eyebrows. That's right.

That's the one about Edith Piaf people don't remember. Right, right, right. Yeah, I-Tongue is kind of a biopic because it starts when she's a kid. Yeah, no, I think that definitely counts. Right. And remember when Margot Robbie played 15 too? And people were like, oh, wait, that's just Margot Robbie. Oh, that's right.

Yeah. When she played what? With braces on. 15. Because she also played the younger I, Tonya. Oh, right. Yeah. But we just saw her as just regular age. 15. Because she also played the younger I, Tanya. Oh, right. Yeah. But we just saw her as just regular age.

Right. And then you're like, oh, so you plus braces. Yeah. And then they put braces on her. Braces really do it, man. No, it was very much a grown woman. Yeah. Right.

Being like, I'm 15. Just believe it. Right. Hey, it works for me in PEM 15. Suspend your disbelief. Yeah. That's right. But that's a different, I think that operates in a completely different way than Margot Ryder.

Like, I'm M15 now, so let's get through it. Have you seen reenactments in National Geographic, like Locked Up Abroad? Those are actually pretty good. I feel like biopic-wise, quote-unquote, not biopic, but like people playing like reenactments. Yeah. The casting is good. The casting is good? The casting is good in Locked Up Abroad. Yeah, and acting too.

I'm surprised. There are times when I'm like, is that the dude who's talking right now? Is it? No, no, no. They have actors who have them. Because that's always so hard. In movies, I feel like they never quite get it. They never find somebody who looks like the person.

Well, I think because the budgets are, I don't know, maybe they're just sort of like, that's good enough, and they only need to be able to do sort of tortured looks off into the distance because it's mostly narration anyway. That's right, right. But I feel like those are underrated, I think. All right. Back to that, the actors are locked up abroad.

The actors, the casting and acting. Casting unlocked up abroad. Locked up abroad. Very specific, and I love it. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? This is maybe, I mean, I don't know. This one's hard because without sounding like a conspiracy theorist or something,

I guess maybe that just like undocumented immigrants don't commit more crimes than native-born citizens. You're saying they do. They commit more crimes. Oh, they do not. Okay. The myth is that they do. Right. The myth is that they do.

I'm sorry. That is not a conspiracy theory at all. That is statistically proven out. So that's why I settled for that. That's good. That's why I settled for that. That's good. That's why I settled for that because I don't know. Well, yeah. And it's just like the most tired shit that gets paraded out every time. And even with this gun bill that they passed this week, they managed to sort of perpetuate that myth even in inserting some language in that bill.

Yeah. Yeah, people need to get over that shit. Well, let's get to the stories because it sounds like we have one that touches on that myth. Yeah. to get over that shit. Well, let's get to the stories because it sounds like we have one that touches on that myth. So first off, we just want to mention that in all of the fallout from the Michael Cohen testimony on Capitol Hill yesterday,

my favorite response was from a mobster who predicted, or I guess it was the child of the Gambino mobster, like the Gambino heir who said that Cohen will get whacked in prison because prisoners love Trump and hate a rat. Are they doing like Quinnipiac polls in penitentiaries?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, apparently. They're like, we want to get it. So what's your feeling on the president's declaration of the emergency? Right. Honestly, I've been on 23 one lockdown for 14 years. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Any zeitgang that's in prison, please let us know if Trump is particularly popular there.

Because he did do prison reform and he is like sort of does have an appeal with. Unsavory characters. Well, just with people who, you know, are fans of wrestling and shit like that and i feel like i like wrestling yeah exactly and you like trump and i like trump yeah oh okay we nailed it there's the venn diagram yeah i don't know that is so weird that that he would they would say that i mean i guess logically you could be like yeah that would be weird going to prison as michael cohen especially if you it's like Russia adjacent to. Like, I feel like if anybody's going to mess with somebody, it would be Russia more than prisoners who are like, hey, man, you really should have gone easier on the president.

Right. And I'm going to shank you. And I mean, as we saw with Whitey Bulger, it really is up to the prison to protect them. protect them. Like if, if it's a, if it's a prisoner who has, you know, a legitimate cause to be worried about their safety, like the prison needs to be 100% have their guard up all the time because they turn their back for a minute and they get their head beat in. Um, I wonder what, but I don't think Michael Cohen is going to like Rikers. Right. You know? Yeah, yeah. That's probably true. He's probably going to a white collar prison. But it is just amazing.

It kind of underlines this overall mobster culture that is pervading our zeitgeist right now. Like the Drudge Report headline going into his testimony was rat fest. Like everybody is calling him a rat on the right. Yeah. He's going, from what I understand, from when he was basically, the sentencing stuff was heating up, he's most likely going to Otisville Prison.

And Forbes named it as America's, one of America's 10 cushiest prisons. All right. So I don't think you're going to have beef with anybody in there. All right. But anyway. Good for him. Yeah. Shout out to Martha. so I don't think you're gonna have beef with anybody in there alright but anyway good for him

yeah shout out to my brother yeah shout out to doing white collar crime that totally fucked the election or whatever we don't have to get

into that yet and for promising to not write a book yeah promise you're not gonna write a book or make money off your rights

promise right now what's he gonna do if he does come back and he's like oh you promised dude you fucking promise i'm pissed dog yeah how dare you that just bought like three minutes of time that's all right yeah

exactly uh so we're still waiting on two high profile democrats to announce whether they're going to enter the 2020 race i think it's basically a foregone conclusion that they are going to enter it's just a matter of like the timing and what justification they give. But it is the killer bees, Beto and Biden. Beto has announced that he won't run against John Cornyn in 2020 for his Texas Senate seat, which suggests that he's probably running for something else. Right. And he said something really like so on the nose.

It's like, you know, we've decided what we're going to do. And I'm so excited. And we're so excited to let you know what our plans are. That would be amazing. He's like, it's a fourth child with my wife. That's what we're doing instead, yeah. Yeah, we were just talking about you know our hopes and fears about Beto and you know we just don't know much about this dude right now we'll see what yeah

we know he's charismatic we know where he stands on cap we know like yeah in the NFL kneeling we know where he's mostly like holding it down for minorities and immigrants. Yeah. I'm curious to know what his takes are on, you know, and just righting the wrongs of the many wrongs that we're facing in this nation. But yeah, I'm waiting. You were saying you foresee maybe a Lime Scooter philosophy. Yeah, I think what about free Lime Scooters for everyone? To come out and are so disappointed. Like, whoa, Beto, what the fuck?

He's a fucking idiot. Lime scooters are sick. I think SoundCloud Premium should actually be free for everyone. Fucking ads are whack, dude. And also, I have an EP you guys should check out. He's announcing a fucking EP. Yo, please do that. Please do that.

That is my fever dream nightmare. He said whatever it was, was going to be best for the country. Yeah. And yeah, so it could be free lime scooters. This is a diss track to Joe Biden. I thought maybe more,

more dimples. I don't know. Dimples for everyone. More Beto smile, that heartthrob smile. Yeah. for everyone. More Beto smile, that heartthrob smile. Yeah, I love the smile. More teeth. More skateboarding.

What a head of teeth on that guy. But then, yeah, you got Biden, too. I know at first people were saying that maybe Biden and Beto would run together. Why? Just because their names are? I don't know. Or they were like, oh, well, Beto would solve Biden's lack of appeal to progressives and younger people. Because Biden, he's the kind of dude who gets you those blue-collar votes

in Pennsylvania and Ohio who you might be able to steal away from Trump. But the dude is 76. Bido is what? Bido. Bido. Bido 2020. Yo, Bido 2020. Beto is 46.

So, I mean, they got some years between them. But yeah, I mean, Biden basically said it without saying it because he was like, I finally, the one concern I had about running, which was putting my family through a potentially devastating presidential campaign, has been alleviated. Why? Did he leave his family? He was just like, I'm only going to do it if my family wants me to. And apparently his family's been like, do it, dad.

Do it. Even though, I don't know. You know, bro, please stay home. Yeah, honestly. It's already congested as fuck. There's too many people and we don't have time for centrist dudes. It just seems like, I don't't know we have politicians already in the race who have been thinking about their policies and their you know where they stand on things and ideas for how

to solve uh some of the country's problems for their whole lifetime like bernie hasn't really been changing up much about his message he's just like yeah this is what i believe like you can ask him anything and he knows where how it relates back. And Elizabeth Warren, same deal. Like, she just like already, you know, has a really thought out policy on basically everything. Like, Beto has the opposite. I don't know where he stands on anything. And Biden seems like he changes from year to year depending on what's...

But I mean, the one thing that I'll give... I almost said fucking Bido again. Yo, Bido, I'm fucking with that. You know what? Actually, if they run together, I'm fucking... I'm about it. I'm about Bido. Biden is the only one who has tangible foreign policy experience.

So that's the one thing he has. Biden? Yeah. Yeah. Like straight up. You know? Straight up. Him and has. Biden? Yeah. Yeah. Like straight up. Straight up. Him and Bernie would be the oldest. Yeah.

Right. Yeah. They shouldn't even, I don't think they should even do the debates. They should just have like a square off with a chess game. Yeah. Just like geriatrics. Who can feed more pigeons in the park? That's right.

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that if a story is going to kill them, that they should at least hear about it on our show first. Yeah. Well, I don't know if it will kill them. It might not kill you. We got very close to, I don't know. I mean, things are still very hot in India and Pakistan because over the last month.

Yeah, since I think on Valentine's Day, basically what happened is on Valentine's Day, there was an Indian military convoy that was attacked by a car bomb by this group, the Army of Muhammad, who, you know, the Indian government accuses Pakistan of arming and training to sort of destabilize their influence and control in the Kashmir region. Right. So Kashmir is like the border. It's the valley between Pakistan and India that India claims is theirs.

Pakistan claims is theirs. Yeah, they had to just slice it sort of down the middle where they're both stacked up militarily on each side. Right. And ever since they got independence in 1947, the Hindus and Sikhs settled in India. The Muslims went west to Pakistan. And there's just been, you know, they've been beefing for like 70 years. They've been had like three of the last four wars they fought have been over this Kashmir region.

Yeah. And so, yes, after that bombing, India responded by bombing a base of the army of Mohammed. They claimed they killed 300 militants. Pakistan was like, oh, actually, you just dropped your bombs on an empty spot of land. So nice try. Then some fighter jets were shot down. Helicopters were shot down. An Indian pilot was captured in Pakistan.

And now the Pakistani government is saying, we're willing to give you your pilot back as a gesture of peace. That's good. So it's not quite getting there. But that's not a region where you really want shit going off because, A, they're both armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons. India has somewhere between 100 and 200 nukes. Pakistan has somewhere between 100 and 200 nukes. Pakistan has like somewhere around 120. And like when you think about they're literally on each other's doorstep. You have nationalistic and religious tensions brewing the whole time.

That's something that can easily progress into conventional war to nuclear war. India does have a no first use policy. So they would only swing if they've been swung on with nukes. But again, it's something to be aware of because that is not, it's just a very, very tense situation. Yeah. Well, what should we do? I mean, look. I've seen peace between the two in a restaurant.

Right. In Oakland. Right. One time. Well, that's what people are saying that fusion food yeah there that there's a lot of shared history and culture between the people like even even though like militarily they're uh at at loggerheads is that a yeah i wish i hadn't said that but at odds at odds there you go. There you go. How about that one? Even though they're at odds militarily, there's a lot of shared culture and, you know, there

are families that were split up by the Kashmir region and the drawing of that border. It just sounds so familiar to other places. Right. Exactly. That we know about. Wow. Former colony. Yeah, because back when it was the British colony of India, everybody was, you know, rocking together.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. Speaking of people having kind of international relations experience from the Obama administration on Pod Save the World, which is the crooked media like international relations show, show, hosted by Tommy Vitor and Ben Rhodes, who are two people from the Obama administration who specifically worked on international relations. They were talking about how a lot of experts that they talk to talk about Pakistan being the number one fear going forward for people who focus on global security because it's basically a failed state that semi-openly supports terrorism

and has nuclear weapons. And yeah, they have a generation of young, uneducated men aging into positions where they'll be controlling the nuclear arsenal. And they were behind that insanely elaborate four-day-long terror attack of mumbai and it's there's just a lot of scary shit coming out of there and like even this like that was a terror organization that attacked the indian military and then the pakistani government didn't like disavow it and they rarely do. Yeah, they just casually, they're not full-thrown.

They're like, nah, come on. We don't fucking have that. Who, us? Right. Yeah, they're just launching attacks from our side, and we don't really do much to control it. Right. So that's a region to keep an eye on.

Another region to keep an eye on is the Koreas. We're talking about other places that have been divided down the middle. So President Trump was in Vietnam, another place divided down the middle. He was in Vietnam talking to Kim Jong-un. And I think we're good. I don't think we have to worry about it. No, we're not, Jack. Wait, what?

What happened? I'm so fucking heartbroken. Sorry,'t think we have to worry about it. No, we're not, Jack. Wait, what? What happened? I'm so fucking heartbroken. Sorry, I stopped paying attention after the first day. I'm sorry. It's just- Yeah, you did have your heart set on this. I believed in love. I believe in love.

I mean, they were writing each other love letters. We love each other. We have this great friendship he's my best friend he really likes me i thought that was going to be enough to get a maniacal dictator hell-bent on the destruction of the west to just hand over their nuclear arsenal i really thought it was maybe i'm a fool maybe i'm a fool for believing in love. But turns out, yeah, that's just not happening. The summit literally just fucking collapsed instantly because the North Koreans came in.

They said, we want just complete sanctions relief if you even want to start this conversation. And Trump, to his credit, was like, oh, hell no. We can't even. If that's step one, we're walking like Chris. So they did it. They walked. Thank goodness.

However, like the North Koreans are disputing this claim. They're saying like, we actually only asked for partial sanctions relief to halt testing. But again, you don't know. This is all part of the back and forth because now their posturing sort of is now, oh, well, you know, that was the deal. And even if you guys come back, we're not hearing it, which this has been a very, this is the song we sing every time we talk about disarmament or any kind of talks with North Korea.

I mean, look, at least they're engaging with each other. But at the same time, I mean, this is what happens when you have someone like Donald Trump who just believes in their abilities so much that they're like, oh, we don't need any pre-summit meetings to at least hammer out if we're even on the same page. Because if they did, they would have saved a lot of time, and this probably wouldn't have even happened. Yes.

I mean, it's always been my policy to believe anything North Korea says, just in general. So I'm trusting them. I mean, we are American dogs. Right. And Kim Jong-il once scored an 18 on a golf course just by nothing but holes in one. Is that one of his myths? I believe so, yeah.

Wow. Nothing but holes in one. How many people died? 18 as well. Right. died 18 as well right um it's i'm surprised that you know i i kind of do believe that they do get along because kim jong-un and uh donald trump kind of have the same upbringing right they're both they wouldn't be shit without their daddies you know what i mean gave them everything and they also like admire shit about each other i'm sure kim jong-un would love direct tv to put some

jordans on oh hell yeah eat some mcdonald's and donald trump would love DirecTV to put some Jordans on. Oh, hell yeah. Eat some McDonald's. And Donald Trump would love to throw journalists in prison and silence critics. In prison, man. Shoot them with anti-aircraft weapons. Yeah, right. Just blow them the fuck apart. Maggie Haberman. Yeah, exactly.

In the crosshairs. Trump would love that. The thing is, even if the nuclear disarmament part, those talks fell apart, there's still plenty of shit that we can engage North Korea on that is pressing, right? Like fucking human rights violations, right? You could have been like, okay, let's talk about something else. Right. We have fucking three days. We block the time out.

Yeah. What about that? Or what about Otto Warmbier? You know, that young man from America who was basically killed and then their cause murdered in the custody of the North Koreans. And Trump was quick to parade his mourning parents out during his first State of the Union

when he was trying to be like, look at these grieving families, grieving family, Otto Warmbier, because of North Korea. And then he asked Kim Jong-un about it and Kim Jong-un

basically was like, oh, I don't know her. Right. And he was like, I believe him. He doesn't really know anything about it so and just left it at that that's wild so this dude i mean this is what you the first step of trying to negotiate with someone is figure out if you have leverage and you gave it all up already yeah and if you don't call dennis yes dennis rodman is i know ready to do the fucking mediating. With his weed Bitcoin company that was sponsoring him last time.

We need the emotional stability of Dennis Rodman involved in this. He sent that letter from his desk. Proof that we are fucked. I know. You know, that could be the reason why this didn't go all the way. Yeah, Rodman wasn't there. Rodman's peacekeeping mission to the first meeting was, like, he couldn't make it through a sentence without bursting into

tears it was just very concerning that he was the one that i was more comfortable with the emotional stability of in in that situation compared with our president but it's wild because the mainstream media is responding to this as if i think it's just that it's familiar. There's a comforting familiarity with peace talks falling apart. Right. As opposed to Trump being like, we solved it, give me my medal of honor

or whatever the fuck he thinks he deserves. I'll hook it up. Right. Instead of that, it fell apart, like Reagan, Gorbachev, and people in the mainstream media are like, well, thank God he didn't give away our entire country to pursue his personal goals, which is just a – yes, I get why it's comforting to have this president act like a previous president, but that is just such an absurd lowering of the bar, almost to the point of nihilism that we're just like happy that he didn't just just completely fuck up by like going after whatever he wanted. It's just I don't know. It's we should have higher standards.

Then please don't overtly put your interest before the security and lives of the entire United States? I hope that they're able to find common ground again. You know, if this is really like the romantic comedy I envisioned it to be, it'll cool off a little bit and they will come back to the table and maybe they will solve this. I still believe in love at the end of the day. Yeah. Well, usually what happens is

you know the more evil of the dictator starts to believe in christmas again right right so hopefully oh goodness but yeah so i guess he's back on his little train he's gonna go take his two-day train ride back to north korea it's not a little train okay it's a very big train it's like fucking snowpiercer with the greatest wine collection of any train. Does it? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The reports about it are that it's just an incredible luxury.

It's only the first three cars of Snowpiercer. Right, right, right. With the children underneath the floorboards just powering the thing. But yeah, it is supposedly very kind of decked out well you know i guess that's a foreign policy swing and a miss again but uh on to the next one hey i mean that was supposed to help trump's poll numbers but i guess maybe people are going to be like he showed tremendous character by walking away right from that yeah absurd offer yeah no A swing and a miss, but at least he didn't spin around and his pants didn't fall down.

It was a foul tip that just was the other side of the foul pole. Right. All right, let's talk Israel, you guys. What's going on over there? So, Bibi, we want to bring in super producer Ana Hosnier to talk to us about Bibi Netanyahu. She is our resident expert on Middle East relations and the host of the amazing Ethnically Ambiguous podcast. She is super producer

Ana Hosnier. And we wanted to bring you into this conversation because Netanyahu, the far right and only getting further right leader of Israel is now reportedly he's going to be indicted right for bribery charges yeah so netty butt butts as I like to call him that's cute hey you have some respect for me hey don't fuck around I'm from Philadelphia I grew up in Philly he kind of has a Philly accent. Oh, okay. It is funny how most like foreign regime leaders all study abroad. In the US. And then come back, yeah.

And they're all like, yeah, so this is my deal. I'm like, that's how Assad talks? It's the same thing with like Rouhani. He like studied in Europe. Right. And then he comes back and he's like, I tweet in English every day. And you're like, what? Anyway, so yeah. So Attorney General Avichai Mandelbild, who used, I just want to say, used to be Netanyahu's former

cabinet secretary, but he's very impartial. He came through and he's been investigating Netanyahu for a few years now over his basically bribery charges. This netanyahu look he is not afraid of a nice suit if you give him a nice suit boy will he make your company look good or like literally you can give him a nice suit man of 14 yeah it's actually it's like really dumb it's like cigars will get you good press with netanyahu but so one of the charges is that he worked with Hollywood producer Arnon Milchan, who is an expatriate Israeli, to promote legislation that could benefit Mr. Milchan, which in the end got blocked by the finance ministry. So it didn't even go through, but he got cigars, jewelry, hundreds of thousands of dollars were given to him, and then he used that money to make his house very nice. him and then that he like used that money to like make his house very nice another charge was that he was accused of discussing with the publisher yediat aranat which is one of israeli's biggest newspaper to put out favorable coverage of him oh wow that's like some real like dictator shit

yeah some real u.s shit yeah yeah and that's i guess it is is is. But is it a tabloid or is it an actually good, respected news source? I think it's a respected news source. Wow. Yeah. And that's also connected to another American billionaire who is a devoted supporter of Netanyahu. A lot of the money, I feel, comes out of America, which what do you know? Right. My most memorable instance was when his son was just outside

of a strip club talking crazy shit about how his dad exchanged favors with the strip club owner's dad. No, it was another kid. They were just

at a strip club. Okay. And on tape, he was like, Netanyahu's son was like, he needed 100 or 200 bucks or something. He was trying to borrow it from him.

He was like, oh, he can't lend me 200 bucks? Dude, my dad hooked your dad up with a $20 million deal. Just on wax. Oral-related stuff. It was really shady. And the third case is that Netanyahu has pushed regulatory actions through the communications ministry, which he was in control of at the time,

which was very lucrative for Shaul Elovich, who's a principal owner of the Bezac telecommunications, like giant, whatever, like conglomerate. Yeah. Yeah. And that led to like a lot of great coverage of Netanyahu and his family and,

and all that stuff. And then on top of that, this guy Mandelbelt, the attorney general has come after his wife, Sarah Netanyahu, who has used over a hundred thousand dollars of public funds for her own shit like just to like postmates basically oh really well just things like that where she's just using it to do her own thing like she's like hey hold on i have to i have to defend my wife she needed that shit yeah so let it go yeah and she's apparently

a real marie antoinette type real bitch yeah this is kind of funny because it's so close to being what's happening in the U.S. It is. Where their leader could be indicted, but then it's someone serving office with these charges hanging over their head. And then really, this is the first time in Israeli history that a prime minister has been charged with a crime. So this is like, they're even over there trying to figure out, it's like, well, do we let it rock while he's trying to run for re-election? But he could be basically faced like real courtship.

If he's convicted, like then it would probably be like sent to the courts if he is re-elected. So that's a big detail. He's asking for them not to do that because he knows if they do, everything will be leaked. Right. He's very scared of that.

Oh, so the details aren't fully out. No, but he is asking pleas to Mr. Mandibelt, who he promoted to attorney general, which I think is the best thing. It's like, this man has been watching your behavior. He should have recused. Well, a lot of people have been like, is he capable of doing it? But he doesn't want that info to get out. Are you saying they know how to redact documents over there? They successfully can redact documents as opposed to our...

But the election for the upcoming prime ministry job is April 9th. So he doesn't want anything out before the election happens. That's the big difference is that this would be like Trump getting indicted like a couple months before the 2020 election. Beto releases his mixtape? Yeah, before Beto releases, drops that hot, hot fire. Yeah, so that's interesting. I mean, Netanyahu has spent the last, I don't know,

like decade basically moving further and further right to the point that he's now alienating people who were on what used to be the right by just inviting in these super far right, maniacal, militaristic Zionists. And yeah, it's now becoming clear that maybe you should go to prison. So I don't know. I try not to get involved in other people's business foreign elections like because I feel like ah what do I know I'm just but it seems like this one's pretty clear you don't

try to meddle yeah that's not very American of you sometimes I will support a light coup or you know a military uprising right yeah light coup yeah um no but so The guy he's running against is Benny Gantz. Benny Gantz, who's the former army chief of the IDF. He's more centrist. He's running with the centrist party. I think they're called Blue and White. He's attached to the Yesh Atid,

who is the party against the Likud party. I don't know if I'm saying that right. Yeah, it's Netanyahu's party. His whole thing is that he's more progressive but the way to maintain any sort of like flow while trying to run is to have complete ambiguity when it comes to the israel palestine conflict like he currently is like i benny gantz that is i will seek peace but at the same time he is not like he's like i want to I want to make an agreement where we have a land agreement and seek peace. But he has no actual info on how he's going to do that.

And I think that's what Israelis like. That's how centrist parties kind of move. But the weird thing is that like since 96 to now, there have been nine different centrist parties who have gone against Netanyahu. And eventually they slowly fade because there's no real plans of how they're going to deal with these things and it's it's an interesting thing where they israelis are very they dissonance is their way of dealing with things like they're kind of like well we believe you but we also kind of like don't really need to know anything right now because it's too sensitive of a topic like it's a weird thing where they're trying to deal with it, but not deal with it. And I don't know how that's going to pan out in the future.

I don't know how Benny Gantz is going to do. Like, he's surging in the polls right now. But I guess we just have to wait and see how he does when it comes to the Israeli public. I mean, we were talking about this earlier before we recorded. And the policies that Netanyahu supports are basically like apartheid level. Oh, yeah. Just racism. Yeah, just straight up racism, human rights abuses.

Yeah. So, I mean, it's definitely an international story that we will be keeping our eye on for a change. Maybe his wife should launch an anti-cyberbullying campaign. That might be good. Be good, yeah, because be best wascyberbullying campaign. Be good. Be good, yeah, because be best was taken. Be bester. Be best.

Yeah, and it should start with her son who just posts racist memes all day. Oh, really? On Facebook, yeah. He's bad. They've got their own Donald Trump Jr. It's all the same. It's all the same. Baron has probably less of a presence, right?

Yes. He took his phone away. Yeah. We support Baron on this podcast. One thing that Benny Gantz, again, he was head of IDF. So he attacks Netanyahu by putting out these ads that say like, look at all the destruction we've put on Gaza and the Palestinians. Everything's destroyed. We've killed all these people.

But he references the time when he was the head of the IDF. So he's getting a lot of heat for that. So they put out all these cartoons where it's like this muscular IDF guy holding machine gun. And he's saying, we believe in peace. They're like, peace is the answer. And it's just like he's getting a lot of heat for that. Because they're like, you are literally in charge of the IDF, man. of heat for that because they're like yeah but you're literally in charge of the idea yeah at the same time i'm sure he's trying to do the politically savvy thing and you know triangulation

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Oh, wow. And we're back. Oh, wow. Just so we don't go making anybody think that we are speaking from a place of superiority, we want to take a quick check-in with- Do we ever? No. I mean, I think people realize that as Americans, we think we're better than everybody. And all those times that we just break into USA chants on this podcast.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's us. Whenever I hear that, I'm like, I'll walk the opposite direction. Oh, my gosh. I can't believe the Republicans were still doing that at the last State of the Union. Well, you know. That's wild. It is what it is.

Anyway, speaking of wild shit Republicans are still doing, let's check in with Mark Meadows because we were kind of, I mean, he's been around for a while, but I was, he came onto my radar during the Cohen hearing. Oh man. He's been on mine since he was a teabagger tea party fuck in 2010. Right. I think he just blended into that crowd. Yeah. Well, like all of them, like Jim Jordan, all that. But anyway, Mark Meadows during the Michael Cohen testimony, you know, we touched on the idea, the fact that he had brought out this black woman who works for the administration and formerly for the organization. And he he basically used her as a prop to say this black woman is proof that Donald Trump is not racist. Yeah, yeah. And Rashida Tlaib, shout out to you from Michigan. When she had her time, she was like, I just want to say that was some racist fucking BS I just saw.

Like, he really just used this person as a shield for like the most absurd argument against being racist, which is the fact that you could have

a friend would preclude you from having racial, racist tendencies in even the lightest terms. And he got so wound up. He was like, my,

I have nieces and nephews that are people of color that I'm embarrassed to admit. Because afterwards, he said, he was like my i have nieces and nephews that are people of color that i'm embarrassed to admit because afterwards he said he's like the chairman knows like referencing elijah cummings who's black he's like the chairman knows you tell him chairman it is like but he was like a lot of people don't know this as if it was like some dark secret anyway i mean then he got really emotional and trying to defend himself he's like i'm I'm not racist, blah, blah, blah. But, you know, let's be real.

When you're running as a Tea Party candidate and when Obama's in office, there's no way you don't fucking dance near some racist BS rhetoric. So, again, in Mark Meadows' defense, I would just like to present him his own words from a few years ago. Well, it's good to be here with you today. I thank you so much for allowing me just a few minutes to talk with you and share a few things. But, you know, it's interesting when the more we find out, the more we realize how wrong the direction we're going. And so what we're going to do is take back our country. 2012 is the time that we're going to send Mr. Obama home to Kenya or wherever it is.

We're going to do it. We're going to do it. All right. Hit him with that birther bullshit. Okay. Because you're so woke. Maybe he didn't have those nieces and nephews then. Yes. That was before. He hadn't found out about that. That was pre people of color, nieces and nephews. He probably wasn't admitting it to himself. Yeah, I don't know. Again, this is just, and even the idea that your nieces and nephews are people of color would, again, say it. Doesn't mean, yeah. Okay, great.

People who have people of color working for them are not racist. Okay, shout out to slave owners. That's what I'm saying. Here's the deal. So now, I mean, okay, that was that. But then Mark Meadows, CPAC is going on, the big conservative hoopla. It's like Comic-Con for conservatives. Oh, is that happening now?

Yeah. He got out there, and, you know, the Green New Deal is the conservatives' favorite thing to just fucking talk shit about and completely obscure what it actually is. shit about and completely obscure what it actually is. So he kicked off his CPAC appearance, Mr. Mark Meadows, with this fucking brilliant line. I mean, he really took it to the Green New Deal with this one. I just want everybody to think of what the Green New Deal is and think of that when you hear his words.

You'll also hear a follow-up from Mr. Sebastian Gorka, who really puts the cherry on this little comment. Gork life. Gork life. You know, with this Green New Deal, they're trying to get rid of all the cows. But I've got good news. Chick-fil-A stock will go way up because we're going to be eating more chicken. All right. I mean, so listen. They want to take your pickup truck. They want to rebuild your home. They want to take away your hamburgers. This is what Stalin dreamt about but never achieved.

They need better joke writers. Honestly, like every time they try to do a joke, like we're going to be, you know, no cows means more chicken. Right. I'm sweating. We have to punch. feel bad i think honestly we talk about this a lot when we hear attempts at humor from the right yeah we should just set up a consulting agency like we'll punch up a joke or two for six thousand dollars a second honestly like mike huckabee's tweets like every time he tries to make a i'm just always like man i i just feel bad for you

yeah the i'm not even sure what like how that would make sense to someone listening where it's like you know they're just they're trying the green new deal is about getting rid of cows right right wait is it not is that not what it's i'm pretty sure that was the first i don't know i'm i'm getting rid of cows. That isn't even an accurate depiction of a remotely environmental policy. Right. Killing all the cows? Killing all the cows. Yeah.

They want to rebuild your homes. They want to take... Again, it's like the most elementary version of fear mongering. They're like, these people, their value system is cow hamburger pickup truck. Right. It is, yeah. It's mostly condescending to the people who they're trying to appeal to more than anything. They want to take your hamburger.

Right. Your hamburger. Wait, what? My hamburger? I just started eating salad today. And they're like, no, no, no, no. You eat hamburgers. Right.

What are we going to do about all those dead cows? We're going to eat them. We eat hamburgers. Right. We'll to do about all those dead cats? We're going to eat them. We eat hamburgers. We'll freeze the meat so it doesn't go bad. But we're going to take your hamburgers. So that Chick-fil-A stock thing, man, that was good material. Conservatives are getting good at comedy, and liberals are scared.

It's just taking what the billboard for Chick-fil-A does anyway. Eat more chicken. It's the same. It's a pop culture reference. I bet he drove into CPAC, saw that billboard, and goes, oh, fuck. Mark, you fucking, you sly devil, you did it again. Right. All right, Chick-fil-A joke after take all your cows.

Great. Done. Anyway, let's move on to Ralph Northam, the governor of Virginia who was caught in blackface and then kept fucking up every time. And cotton blackface sounds like the name of the old timey racist guy. Oh, like cotton blackface. So anyway, this time, I don't even know what to say here.

So Ralph Northam's wife, if you remember at the first press conference. Yeah, she was the voice of reason. Yeah. Someone was like, hey, can you still moonwalk? And he looked behind him to see if he had a clear runway. And she was like, inappropriate, inappropriate. Right, inappropriate circumstances. And he's like, that would be inappropriate.

So we're like, oh, okay, good. Pam Northam has a head on her shoulders. But apparently she does not because something happened when there was a tour of, I believe, the governor's mansion. And someone, like a state employee, had an eighth grader. Like one of their eighth grade child was on this tour of the governor's mansion. And they were like part of the state, like their state pages, like for the state senate. And during this tour, they got to what is like the kitchen cottage, which is where the slaves used to work. Back in that, when America was great.

I don't even know how to say it. So she's talking about the history of this building. This is where the slaves worked. She got some cotton and asked three pages, and they were the only African-American pages in the program, to hold this cotton and said, ask them to imagine what it must have been like to pick cotton all day she singled out the only african-american and said here

this because i know african-americans need perspective right slavery why don't you hold this motherfucking cotton and you tell me what it's like imagine what it would have been like that was i don't know what the fuck she was thinking what you tell me what it's like imagine what it would have been like that was i don't know what the fuck she was thinking what you're even yeah everyone's lost i've i've been in like maybe she thought it would be whitewashing if she gave it to the white kids and then she would offend the black kids yeah i'm just thinking it's like well you know you scar joe got heat you know yeah Yeah. I've got to stay accurate. I've got to stay accurate.

Recasting a black role as a white person if she gave it to the white students. She's probably just extra like seventh dimensional woke. And that's probably what it was. Yeah. And I mean, look, it's not a, it's just not a good look. I mean, it's just a terribly, terribly, terrible idea. I mean, like if anything, you would give it to white children who would actually – you might need perspective on systems of oppression. Right.

Not people of color who are still operating under it to this day. Right. But again, she then came out and she was like, oh, I am really sorry. She said, I regret that I have upset anyone. And she's like – oh, I am really sorry. She said, I regret that I have upset anyone. And she's like, I will work thoughtfully and honestly. And then she moonwalked off the stage. It's not an apology to say you're sorry you upset people. Sorry you got offended.

I'm sorry if I hurt somebody. I'm sorry if that hurt your feelings. I'm sorry that I did that. I'm sorry I made such a terrible decision in thinking that this was somehow going to be a teaching moment. That's not an apology. But again. All right. There was a gun control bill passed.

Hey. And they managed to slide some bullshit into it as they are wont to do. Yeah. I mean, this is the House passed the first significant gun control bill for the first time in over 20 years. The House passed the first significant gun control bill for the first time in over 20 years. And so now it closes that gun show loophole and now requires universal background checks on all commercial gun sales. That's even online at gun shows. But it does have a few exemptions like it allows for gifts from family members or loaning a gun to someone while hunting or if it's for self-defense. But either way, I mean, since now the Democrats have control of the House, there's some momentum

around gun control. They passed the bill. But at the last second, Doug Collins from Georgia called for a motion to include a provision that would require the federal background check database to notify ICE if an undocumented immigrant tries to buy a gun. Now, this goes back to what your myth is. That's only there because these people are operating on the myth that undocumented immigrants are violent

and are always trying to buy guns when that couldn't even be further from the truth. Also, undocumented immigrants can't buy guns. You have to be an American citizen to buy one. Right, sure. Isn't that a problem? But if you're at it but if you're at like a gun show or something you can just be like yeah man hook up the gun or

whatever right but again it's just a very it's it's sort of meaningless but it was just a weird attempt and there are 26 democrats actually voted for this uh too yeah but those are a lot of people from purple districts or like people who just flipped Republican seats. So I think they didn't want to rock the boat too hard for their constituents. Either way, it passed. I mean, at the end of the day, though, the Senate is not going to – they're like, well, what do we need to check? Why do we need to strengthen background checks at all? I think we have a great system. Even though like I think a fifth of gun sales kind of flow through that loophole.

So – but again, you know, I guess maybe thoughts and prayers will stop all the bad stuff. But we'll see. Yeah. But I don't. Is anybody passing legislation to make thoughts and prayers real? Oh, shit. Yeah. I feel like that would be like a troll bill someone would put forward.

They're like, this is the thoughts and prayers bill to fortify our thoughts and prayers potential. There you go. And finally, Vulture put out a list ranking the best picture winners, and it has been helping me mourn the win of Green Book because it really puts into perspective how many great movies are missing from the list of Best Picture winners. Wow, what's on there? Well, so what's not on there,

like Forrest Gump is on there because it beat Shawshank Redemption and Pulp Fiction. Oliver beat 2001 A Space Odyssey. How Green Was My Valley beat Citizen Kane. So some of the best movies ever are not on there. Right. They get some things right, but it's really... Why do people love Shawshank Redemption so much?

Because it's a really watchable movie. I guess. An insanely watchable movie. I don't know. I saw it twice, and then I always watch it hungover because it's on TNT like fucking 23 hours a day. That's right. But maybe I've been over Shawshanked.

Yes. But the first half of the list is just mostly pretty forgettable garbage. Really? Yeah. Okay. Let's go through. Tell me. I will.

Because when I tried to click on the link, Vulture's like, oh, you've seen all your free articles. Oh, for real? Yeah. They hit me with that soft paywall. What? Oh, I'm going to pay journalists. So at 89, so there's been 91 Best Picture winners. I'll just list off the ones that you've probably heard of.

89 is Crash. The Dave Matthews band song? Crash. 86 is The Artist. Got it. 84 is Driving Miss Daisy. 83 is A Beautiful Mind okay which I totally agree with all this

and it's just good to have it put into perspective that yeah these were all terrible decisions 81 Dances with Wolves 80 Green Book so these are all keep going 79 well no I'm not going to go through all of them but I'm just saying like go through all of them,

but I'm just saying these are movies that Slumdog Millionaire from 2008. Why did Slumdog Millionaire win? Because it was broad and easy to digest. At 76, we have still overrated pedophile hero's tale, American Beauty. Academy's dead. I mean, they're making a museum. That means, like, when you have a retrospective or a museum, it means, like, an entity has died.

Right. And you can see it in the halls. Right. You know? I mean, there was no host. Yeah. And then, yeah, I don't know. I thought it was fine without a host. I thought it was fine and watchable. But it's one of those things where, yeah yeah i don't know i thought it was fine with i thought it was i thought it

was fine and watchable but it was one of those things where yeah you don't i don't know i don't i just every year it's like you it's like the vmas man i used to care yeah you care about the mtv video music i used to fucking care about a moon man i remember there was such a stark drop off in my giving a shit about that. Like it was the summer before college. Chris Rock was hosting that year. I was excited. I was like, oh, fucking Chris Rock. Like, that'll be the best.

And then college started. And I remember like it was on TV as I was walking by someone's dorm room. And I was like, oh, I don't care about that at all. We're in college now, bro. We're in college, dude. Yeah. I'm going to balance my checkbook. Exactly.

I was busy balancing my checkbook. On a pencil. 64, Forrest Gump, which every time I think about that movie, it gets more absurd and racist in retrospect. Oh, man. Forrest Gump is- Hey, well, look, you could say that I'm never going to stop eating at Bubba Gump Shrimp. You can keep eating at Bubba Gump Shrimp.

I eat there, I think, three times a month. The depiction of the Black Panthers in Forrest Gump is incredible. Oh, that's right. I forgot about that. The Black Panthers are, first of all, just so angry all the time. And then at one point, Forrest Gump runs away from one of the Black Panthers because he's going to punch somebody who just hit Jenny, which the Black Panthers don't give a shit about. They're just like, oh, yeah, whatever.

People can hit women. That's no big deal. And after Forrest Gump runs away, the guy's still just yelling at the empty space where Forrest Gump had been before, which suggests that the Black Panthers were just like these automaton anger robots who like didn't even, like it just shows such a lack of perspective or empathy for anyone who isn't white. And it like rewrites history. So Forrest Gump is,

Wesley Morris from New York Times was talking about this this week on his podcast, but it rewrites history. So a white male helps the young black woman who is breaking through the color barrier in Alabama. Oh, that's

right. He's like, you dropped your book. Yeah, he helps her pick up his book. It's just so weird because Robert Zemeckis is the same dude who rewrote history so that Marty McFly invented rock music instead of Chuck Berry. Yeah, Chuck Berry. I'm going to say Barry Gordy. Dang.

His whole oeuvre is giving white men credit for things that they didn't take credit for already. Okay, calm down now. The restaurant is a little bit of a different entity. Oh, yeah. Don't touch the Bubba Gump shrimp. We know that Bubba Gump shrimp is a little different. That's based out of the love that Bubba and Forrest have for each other. It's just Bubba.

Yeah, Bubba and his shrimp. This person put Shakespeare in love at 55, which seems way too high for me. Should have been Satan, Brett, Ryan. Yes. I guess what I'm trying to ask is, is Forrest Gump canceled? Would you cancel Forrest Gump? Oh, a long time ago. Oh, I can't cancel him.

All right. Yeah. I think of him him. All right. Yeah. I think of him as a real guy. I love Tom Hanks. You know? Who's Tom Hanks? Okay, my bad. You mean Forrest Gump?

It's about Bubba. It's about Bubba the shrimp. For anybody who wants to know the top, Casablanca is number one, Godfather 2, and Godfather Part 2 is number four. All About Eve is three. Wait, Godfather 1 is before Godfather 2? Yeah. Oh.

Yeah. Don't people... It's not objective. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Who is it written by? Like one person? It is written by the... Tim Grierson and Will Leach.

Yeah. There you go. Sounds like a diverse group. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Sounds like they love Casablanca. Yeah. Yeah.

Casablanca's good. Come on. No, it is. Yeah. That's... Yeah. No, that one's. Yeah. Casablanca's good. Come on. No, it is. Yeah. That's, yeah. No, that one's right. You're right. I'm just, that just started sweating from,

just like profusely sweating from my back. For me, number one would be Mallrats. Yes. I don't know why that didn't make the fucking list. But, you know. Injustices happen every day. Asko, it's been a pleasure having you back, as always. Hey, y'all have been amazing, as always.

Thank you for having me. Asko, where can people follow you on social media? So on social media, I'm on Twitter, Instagram. You can find me at Asko Comedy. Okay. Comedy spelled. at Otsuko Comedy. Okay.

Comedy spelled... I'm just kidding. Otsuko, A-T-S-U-K-O, Comedy. That's what I am on all over the socials. All right. Yeah. You are an amazing follow. People need to follow you. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying?

Yes, yeah. Kat Urie. She's awesome. Follow her too. If your tattoos aren't stupid you're a fucking nerd

I loved that tweet that is on my list as well Miles Miles you can find me on Twitter and Instagram

at miles of gray a couple tweets I like one is just a visual it's by at network Ned gout will hunting is the display name and it's just a visual. Uh, it's by at network. Ned gout.

Will hunting is the display name. Uh, and it's just a screen cap of the, from Fox news, from Michael Cohen's hearing and the bottom, the lower third reads, uh, Cohen,

Cohen, Colin Trump's bad far outweighs his good. What's wrong with that? They spell it not fucking O U T W E-W-E-I-G-H. They spell it two words, O-U-T space W-A-Y-S. Outweighs. Outweighs his good.

Shout out to all the people who do the graphics at Fox News. What the fuck is going on over there? But you know what? Keep doing the Lord's work. Another tweet I like is from Emma Roller, to the tune of Everybody Dance Now. You motherfucker.

Everybody's cancelled. I mean, everybody's fucking cancelled. That was mine. Oh, did I take all of yours? And then Otsuko took the other one? Oh, wow, Jack. I also have one from Dana Schwartz okay well then yes

I now what do you say in Congress I now yield the floor okay Dana Schwartz tweeted at Dana Schwartz with like whispers as the light pulls me away I will always love you the

Punisher and also liam neeson in the gray and also every man in every movie ever and she has this video of her underneath covers like it's like that one shot from the movie of a memory of a dead wife memory of a dead wife she said uh i did it in the wrong order but that was her reply to uh a tweet of her own of that video that said here's my audition to be your dead wife um so to a tweet of her own of that video that said, here's my audition to be your dead wife. A lot of people, I think, were hopping on that train on Twitter. I felt like different versions of the dead wife memories characters have in films.

Brittany Nichols was doing it, too. It was just the dumbest shit, like sipping a wine glass and kind of spilling it. It was dumb, oh like just tired ass moments from film the line I will always love you the punisher is you can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien

you can follow us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist we're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram we have a Facebook fan page and a website DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what's that going to be?

Yeah, in honor of Trump and Kim Jong-un's just on-again, off-again relationship, this is a track that's very fitting. It's called Off and On by the group S.A.L.E the group sales s-a-l-e-s so peep this it's a you know good get your shoulders moving you know that's what we'd like to do and the week strong all right guys have a great weekend we'll be back on monday we will talk to you guys then bye i can't say the words i can't see the words, I can see the words all off and on Hustled out of there

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