The Daily Zeitgeist - Black Friday = Corporate Propaganda, EDM Pope 11.28.25

Episode Date: November 28, 2025

In this episode, Jack and special guest co-host Mort Burke are joined by comedian Amy Miller, to discuss... the slowest news week of the year, the new Six Flags CEO looking like the old Six Flags masc...ot, Pope Leo pulling up to the DJ set with a heavenly light show and drops of biblical proportions, the many myths of Black Friday and much more! Struggling Six Flags names new CEO. What does that mean for Knott’s and Magic Mountain? - Los Angeles Times 🔱 Davy Jones Locker on X: "@marcusleshock Yoooooooo they actually hired this guy! https://t.co/KdLMafqWBi" / X Pope Leo surprises ravers by blessing crowd during DJ set | Lifestyle | Independent TV 5 Black Friday Myths the Media Wants You to Believe | Cracked.com Five myths about Black Friday - The Washington Post Why criticism of Black Friday shoppers is wrong | Vox Thanksgiving's Wild Black Friday Scene Was Twenty Years In The Making Why isn't Black Friday the same? - lehighvalleylive.com LISTEN: The Way Out of Easy | Jeff Parker ETA IVtet | International AnthemSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 How are you good? Pretty good. All right. Yeah. It's a loaded question. I shouldn't ask it. Everything's great. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:00:14 So good. So good. This past year, I don't know. Things were bad before. The past 10. It has been so good. Yeah. 26th ain't on, really.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Yeah. Incredible. Oh, shit. Yeah, I need to stop asking people. How are you? Give me an answer to how you're doing. Let's get it. Let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:00:38 What's the news? Yeah, what's the thing? Because it's like you're either doing horrible like most people or if you're doing well, no one wants to hear that. I don't want to hear that shit. How bad are you? That's what I should ask. How bad are things for you?
Starting point is 00:00:52 That's the worst thing going on. What's the same? baddest shit that's happened to you recently my hairline Oh come on
Starting point is 00:01:02 your hairline looks great to do The do The do That's the worst thing Brian you were trying to ask me something
Starting point is 00:01:13 And I apologize I just Okay Is it about your hairline Um How's it look Jack Is it like
Starting point is 00:01:18 Jack sorry Real quick How's my hair look I'm Kristen Davis Host of the podcast Are You a Charlotte? The most anticipated guest from season three is here.
Starting point is 00:01:32 The Trey to My Charlotte. Kyle McLaughlin joins me to relive all of the magical Trey and Charlotte moments. He reveals what he thinks of Trey giving Charlotte a cardboard baby. Why would I bring her a cardboard baby? I was literally, I was like, this doesn't track for me at all. When he found out Trey's shortcomings. I'm kind of excited at talking about, you know, I think he's a guy spends time in Central Park. you know, he's probably, you know, he'll be some surgery stuff, you know.
Starting point is 00:01:59 And I was like, all this kind of stuff going on. And they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, fine. And they said, but he's impotent. And I was like, he's impotent. And why he chose not to return to it just like that. They came and presented an idea. And I was like, I get, I see it. It's so kind of a one joke idea.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Right. You don't want to miss this. Listen to Are You a Charlotte on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A decade ago, I was on the trail of one of one of. the country's most elusive serial killers, but it wasn't until 2023 when he was finally caught. The answers were there, hidden in plain sight. So why did it take so long to catch him? I'm Josh Zeman, and this is Monster, hunting the Long Island serial killer, the investigation into the most notorious killer in New York, since the son of Sam, available now.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Listen for free on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here. the men's clinic at UCLA Health. And I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like a lot of guys, I haven't been to the doctor in many years. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Because guys usually don't go to the doctor unless a piece of their faces hanging off
Starting point is 00:03:15 or they've broken a bone. Depends which bone. Well, that's true. Every week, we're breaking down the unique world of men's health, from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility, and things that happen in the best. bedroom. You mean sleep? Yeah, something like that, Jordan.
Starting point is 00:03:30 We'll talk science without the jargon and get you real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about. It's going to be fun, whether you're 27, 97, or somewhere in between. Men's Health is about more than six packs and supplements. It's about energy, confidence, and connection. We don't just want you to live longer. We want you to live better. So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. Hi, Kyle. Could you draw up a quick document with the basic business plan? Just one page as a Google Doc and send me the link. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Hey, just finished drawing up that quick one page business plan for you. Here's the link. But there was no link. There was no business plan. It's not his fault. I hadn't programmed Kyle to be able to do that yet. My name is Evan Ratliff. I decided to create Kyle, my AI co-founder, after hearing a lot of stuff like this from OpenAI CEO Sam Aldman. There's this betting pool for the first year that there's a one-person, a billion-dollar company, which would have been like unimaginable without AI and now will happen. I got to thinking, could I be that one person? I'd made AI agents before for my award-winning podcast, Shell Game. This season on Shell Game, I'm trying to build a real company with a real product run by fake people.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Oh, hey, Evan. Good to have you join us. I found some really interesting data on adoption rates for AI agents and small to medium businesses. Listen to Shell Game on the IHeart Radio app Or wherever you get your podcast Hello the internet And welcome to season 416 Episode 4 of DERdaily's Ageist
Starting point is 00:05:03 Oh god Are you okay? Sorry, just real quick wellness check on more Just spray my ankle It's a production of IHeart Radio It's a podcast where you take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness And it's Friday November 28th
Starting point is 00:05:21 2025. It's Black Friday. The reason for the season, you know, we've moved Thanksgiving forward and backward just to, you know, give people time to shop. Give the corporation's time to make that dang line go up. I'm grateful to say 11% on flat screen TV. That's what I'm grateful. My name's Jack O'Brien, aka zip ties, zip ties, so zip ties sold. Close to me. That one courtesy of Smitty Werbin-Jegerman Jensen in reference to the Google search that undid the perfect crime that we covered earlier in the week when a woman from Ocean City, New Jersey, had herself zip tied and hired a scarification expert to carve Trump whore into her body in order to try to make herself the next conservative victim who like gets $100,000. to go collect an award for being brave. Unfortunately, her accomplice had just Googled zip ties close to me.
Starting point is 00:06:34 And they were like, oh, boy. You guys, fuck this one of us, most recent Google search. That's right. Yeah, I mean, they should just have an alarm that goes off every time somebody searches. That's not good. Yeah. Um, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Thrill to be joined in our second seat by a very funny comedian, actor, writer, improvisers, podcast is rebrand. Uh, got a new special coming up called a timeless masterpiece. Uh, he just nose grinded into this meeting because he is our skateboarding man on the street. It's Mort Byr! Hello! What's up, guys? Thanks for having me, dude.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Hello, Mort. What's up, Jack? Thank you for being here on, you know, the slowest news week of the year. year yeah yeah not really risk that's like nothing happening um yeah so uh we're we're thrilled to have you here and more we're thrilled to be joined you're in for a treat uh one of the funniest stand-up comics in the world one of our favorite guests on this podcast and it's been way too long you know her from tv podcast you can see her headlining at a theater near you go check the website some dates coming to pacific northwest uh ashland sark
Starting point is 00:07:49 Fesm Fest in December. The dang sarcasm fest. That'll be there it is. We made the same exact joke. Genevara better be headlining. Please welcome back to the show. It's Amy Miller. Yay!
Starting point is 00:08:07 What's up, Amy? So good to see you guys. So good to have you. I know. Great to have you back. How are you? How's everybody planning to spend their Black Friday? oh i'm i'm gonna like i'm gonna lie i'm gonna lie down probably that's the correct answer yeah um
Starting point is 00:08:30 my couch yeah i think that's that's where everybody should be on the entire weekend maybe a little small amount of some light crying you kind of gentle sobbing are you going to like really go for it do you think um i think i'm gonna have maybe a good big sob sash for yeah 30 minutes. But then you got to hydrate after. Don't forget to hydrate. That's true. Like some Gatorade for a good...
Starting point is 00:08:57 It's water coming out of your... Jack, you never cried before. Let's not... I'll try to relate to the humans on this. Zoom. I watched him try once. He got a bad headache. Yeah, it was rough.
Starting point is 00:09:10 My face was making weird shapes. I do cry sometimes, but my face doesn't change shape. There's just tears rolling down my face. And I was that, I don't know what's happening. the Demi Moore from Ghost Yeah Yeah exactly
Starting point is 00:09:24 In that I have a A lesbian scene With Whoopi Goldberg You wish I wish I would love to see you act In a dramatic film Jack I feel like you would crush it actually
Starting point is 00:09:37 I think so too Oh man I've got dramatic range Oh yeah For sure Amy we're thrilled to have you here We're gonna get to know you A little bit better in a moment
Starting point is 00:09:48 first we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about in terms of the news site we'll just cover that it is the slowest news week of the year um so like i i can remember a story that broke in like 2009 that's how slow the news were the news is i'm like oh yeah there was one story so i want to talk about that it was when tiger woods like drunk drove into his garden oh yeah that was good that was good and like everybody remember so it's like a It's a double-edged story because, like, the news media is not around. Nobody's working. But if you fuck up, everyone's going to see it because there's nothing else is happening. You would think more celebrities would just try to be the news story. I know. Do something fucked up and crazy. This is your chance.
Starting point is 00:10:40 I said celebrities, Jack. We should game plan something for all of us to do. do um it's got to yeah well we'll talk about the makings of the perfect celebrity news story in this tiger woods one scandal that's like fun it doesn't make people hate you and you're not hurting anybody but like he gets a lot of coverage i was gonna say it's funny if you started publicly dating the january 6th shaman guy but that would really make people hate you like in the full get-up yeah he seems cool we're not getting back together he had his shot he messed it up yeah man
Starting point is 00:11:17 And then as if to illustrate how slow the news day is, we're going to cover the fact that Six Flag just hired a CEO who kind of looks like the Six Flags guy. And I want to talk about that. So strong. I want to talk about the Pope introducing, like having a video at the front of the EDM rave. And then I want to talk about Black Friday news stories in general. The trend, we've covered this before, but it don't stop. and it don't quit. They continue to treat Black Friday as if it's a capitalism thunderdome.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And we'll talk about the reality behind those stories. All of that, plenty more. But first, Amy, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, okay. Well, I was looking up a picture of that plate of fancy food from Mrs. Doubtfire. like, you know, when they're like from the restaurant at the end. Yeah. And he's like jumping.
Starting point is 00:12:24 He's jumping back and forth. Yeah. And she are jumping from table to table. Right. And it always just looked as a kid like like like that was like the peak of like California cuisine. Like this is what like good delicious food looks like with those like tiny tiny carrots.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Oh yeah. Because I was like, what if I just recreated this meal for Friendsgiving? Hey, everyone would be hungry. Outfire, please. Yeah. And then you get to stick your face into a cream pie at the end. You're still pretending to be a different person, but you're not changing clothes. That's your search history, Jack.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Yeah. Cream pie myself is what I said. And it was a lot of complicated and confusing diagrams. It's kind of hard to pull off, apparently. Man, yeah, just what rewatch Mrs. Doubtfire with my kids for the first time this past year. it is so good some of his riffs as when he's just being
Starting point is 00:13:23 funny Robin Williams are like hard for kids to get like he's doing a lot of like old timey actor things like old timey actor references they still liked it but to them it was just like he was doing imitations of just random
Starting point is 00:13:38 voices yeah he would be like doing jive talk or whatever and you're like hey yeah and then there's the subtle racism ignore that one we don't do that voice uh we don't do that one the 70s racism which is a funny specific kind of yeah yeah yeah yeah like yeah like that's humphrey bogart never mind uh okay that ignore that one um but it's also like a lot of uh the genie riffs in aladdin are like here's johnny and like references to the tonight show that they have no frame of reference or the shining yeah right
Starting point is 00:14:15 Well, they have seen The Shining, and they do love that movie. They love it. Yeah, my seven-year-old in particular. I had a seventh-grade teacher that was an alcoholic. Uh-huh. Yeah, I'm familiar with that phrase. I know about those. I had one that wasn't.
Starting point is 00:14:33 That was a shit. But any time she, like, wasn't feeling well or whatever, like, that was the go-to. Like, we would always be watching Mrs. Doubtfire. Oh, Mrs. Soutfire. Yeah. I think, well, it's got kids in it. Yeah. The kids a star.
Starting point is 00:14:50 It's a kids movie. Yeah, she would just throw on Mrs. Doubtfire, but, you know, it was a lot. It was many, many times of a year. That's, that's an interesting one. That's an interesting one because I'm trying to wrap my head around. Like, we had a, I went to a Catholic high school in Kentucky, and we had a priest who, not, not like, because he was hung over that day.
Starting point is 00:15:15 But, like, as part of his curriculum at the outset of the year, it was like three solid days you were going to be watching Braveheart, um, for some reason, which everyone was like, fuck yeah, man, that's, that's fine. I'll take that. But I think the way he justified it was that it was like, uh, based on history. Uh, Mrs. Doubtfire. I'm trying to figure out, like, also based on history. Yeah, it's on history. Teach you about drag in a way that isn't going to scare people. We had a, I had a public health teacher who was also the P.E. teacher. And one time I, he came in class and he wrote public health, but he forgot the L in public. So it's at pubic and that was our Super Bowl. Like, I've never seen it with happier your children. You don't think he did it on purpose. That almost feels, that almost feels like he, that was his introduction to sex ed. And then he was like, people think this phrase is weird once he saw your reaction.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Yeah, public. I'm in public. Yeah, let's go public health. Watch me stafire. I gotta go. he had crabs he just really wanted to talk about it he asked questions for us about what is something Amy you think is underrated not going home
Starting point is 00:16:26 for Thanksgiving underrated not going home just underrated like ignoring the actual dates that things happen like I don't know why we're just like I've never really I don't even really care
Starting point is 00:16:39 about my own birthday on the day I mean my birthday Hells in New Year's Eve. So there's probably a reason for that. Yeah. Oh, my God. Can I just drive up next week when there's not traffic? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:52 It just, it's just insane. I'm opting out this year, thankfully. Yeah, I feel good. I feel strong about it. I can't be guilty any longer. That is not an overblown story. The way that travel is just an absolute fucking nightmare around Thanksgiving. It's just like, we're going to.
Starting point is 00:17:10 In America tries to fit on one plane. Yeah, my family lives in the Bay Area and even driving, it was like there was a year that I, three years ago, I drove back and it was like literally 12 hours to get from like Oakland to L.A. Yeah, if you're wondering why Mort is here instead of Miles Gray, it is exactly to avoid that situation. He's on his way up to the Bay Area and he was like, oh, if I record this podcast, we're just going to drive up there, get there and leave right away because it will take us 24 hours. hours. But yeah, it's, uh, it's hell out there. I think that's a, I think that's very valid. Why? Free yourselves. Yeah, man. Just coordinate with the people or whatever. Yeah. Don't let them take your freedom. I think he said, free your mind and the rest will follow. Be colorblind. That was what he screamed at the end. Um, what is, uh, what's something you think's
Starting point is 00:18:06 overrated. Okay. I didn't hear, I didn't see it in the stories we're going to cover. So I have to say Campbell suit. Yeah. That's a big piece of news. Did you guys already cover it yesterday? Yeah. Oh yeah. That one, or we covered it on a shit every day.
Starting point is 00:18:20 I know. Nine episodes. Yeah. We covered one of our nine episodes yesterday. We did record three. I've always felt it to be overrated. And I am one of the fat pores he mentioned. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I grew up eating it. And it's like, no, it wasn't. There's not even a. comfort to it in the way that like a pack of blue ramen is still comforting and I still eat. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. It's like always been disgusting. Like why? And also why am I cooking? Like the whole point, why do I have to add water to this?
Starting point is 00:18:56 Like we already decided if I'm going to buy a can of soup, it's because I don't want to cook soup. Don't make me put an ingredient in it. One place he was completely on the money was when he described the chicken as seeming as though it were three printed. I was like, sir, you ate on that one. He needs to be a guest. He's very funny.
Starting point is 00:19:19 I mean, he's going to, if it's like not too late to add anyone to Trump's cabinet like, truly. He would be a shoe in. He's a Department of Defense and healthcare. He's like, it's like nine positions and he's just
Starting point is 00:19:33 ripping at the press conference. He's the FDA now. He's the head. He does. I mean, he seems like it would be a perfect fit in that I feel like a lot of the people like Rudy Giuliani became a perfect fit for his cabinet when he just was like, what if I stayed drunk all day? And like this rant definitely feels like somebody who was just hammered. Like nobody has that much stamina to be like, and another thing for an hour long Zoom call where everyone else is like video off and he's still going. It's like the backstage at the comedy store when like people have been doing cocaine for too long or whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Like, you want to go home, but I won't stop roasting. It could have been cocaine, actually, because he is, he was in the C-suite of Campbell's. Campbell's was like, uh, he was like some tech guy. And it's like, no, he was a chief technology security, whatever. Like, he's in the C-suite. He's like one of your main dudes. And, and, yeah. And a lot like Rudy Giuliani, he seems red wine drunk with his, which is a special kind of crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Yeah. It's like that Johnny Depp drunk. You know what I mean? like a jug of not even good red wine. Like, it's just a different kind of alcoholic. Like, they, they're very emotional. Yeah, dewy-eyed and slow, kind of. That's right.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Yeah, and like rosy, but, you know, just, yeah, dark teeth. Oh, man, the teeth. They need another hug. Stained teeth, needing a hug. Eyes begging for a hug. Yeah, they're listening to a. a lot of opera. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:13 They're pretentious. They're pretentious alcoholics. Yeah. We did take a look into not just that rant, but also just their history. And there's a lot of shit that, uh, yeah, they were like dumping toxic waste into Lake Erie for a number of years. That sounds right. That's why if you swim in it, it tastes like, it tastes like chicken noodle.
Starting point is 00:21:37 That's right. They were like, fine. We did it 900 times over the course of like three years. So they were doing it three times a day dumping toxic waste into Lake Erie. And it like contributed to a algae bloom that made the entire city of, I think it was Toledo, have to turn off their water for four days. How are they going to make the suit? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Thank you. Can I say something about those chicken noodle noodles too? Because there's nothing like it. They don't exist anywhere else. Because they could just use a short small noodle, like a shell or a macaroni or whatever. Yeah. But instead of they're chopping spaghetti or whatever. Chopping, yeah, chopped spaghetti.
Starting point is 00:22:19 It's like little pieces of noodle chunks, but not in a good way. The least al dente pasta has ever been. Yeah. Yeah. It tastes like it has the flu. Yeah. It's like gelatinous. It is so fucked up.
Starting point is 00:22:34 The substance of that is like the fact that was the first pasta. that I probably ever ate is horrible. Spaghettios for sure. But Spaghettios are delicious. If that guy goes off, I don't know what I'm going to do. Whoever's in charge of,
Starting point is 00:22:49 if Mr. Boyardee loses it on a jug of wine. That's right. Dr. Boyardy, I think he got his PhD in SpaghettiOs. He went to school with pepper. Old friends. Yeah. It's a very good point about the ramen too.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Like that has totally. supplanted any at home soup option. Like if you're going to... So good. You have to add water to that one too, but like if we're adding water, might as well make it fucking awesome. I mean, I am cooking that one. I'm adding broccoli.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I'm as all kinds of shit. Green onions. Oh, so much better than Campbell's. It's the thing in the first 15 years of my comedy career. Like I owe it all vomit, baby. Yeah. Yeah. What's your color? Dude, well, I do the I don't think we should call it Oriental.
Starting point is 00:23:39 but that's what I do. That's what it's called. Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, the blue one. I'm chicken just because that's what we had in my dorm when I was like in high school. And yeah, it was I've never given up on the chicken at a little spice. I think blue is the saltiest. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:58 And when you eat one of those freaks in your life that's like, I only use half the packet. You're like, I don't want to know you. Just don't call. Just want to you get out of here. Yeah. I'm too busy. exercising you're like relaxed I like how you define
Starting point is 00:24:13 and buy color I'm going to start doing that yeah what's it because I don't love to say Oriental like you do damn I was just waiting I have like on the edge of my seat I have a gong that I hit like when Jackie Chan enters
Starting point is 00:24:26 rush hour of scenes also does anybody eat the beef one I don't I think beef is like like maga I mean it is red I just I've never met anyone that defaulted to the red Perfer's red. Dude.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Yeah. Anything that's beef flavored makes me want to retire. Like, that's awful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Being alive. I don't want to be around anymore.
Starting point is 00:24:50 All right. Let's take a quick break. And we'll be right back to talk about the slowest newsday of the year. I'm Kristen Davis. Host of the podcast. Are you a Charlotte? The most anticipated guest. From season three is here, the tray to my Charlotte.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Kyle McLaughlin joins me to relive all of the magical Trey and Charlotte moments. He reveals what he thinks of Trey giving Charlotte a cardboard baby. Why would I bring her a cardboard baby? I was literally, I was like, this doesn't track for me at all. When he found out Trey's shortcomings. I'm kind of excited at talking about, you know, I think he's a guy spends time in Central Park. You know, he's probably, you know, he'll be some surgery stuff, you know, And I was like, all this kind of stuff going on.
Starting point is 00:25:39 And they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, fine. And they said, but he's impotent. And I was like, he's impotent. And why he chose not to return to it just like that. They came and presented an idea. And I was like, I get, I see it. It's so kind of a one joke idea. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:54 You don't want to miss this. Listen to Are You a Charlotte on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A decade ago, I was on the trail of one of the country's most elusive serial killers. But it wasn't until 2023 when he was finally caught. The answers were there, hidden in plain sight. So why did it take so long to catch him? I'm Josh Zeman, and this is Monster, hunting the Long Island serial killer,
Starting point is 00:26:20 the investigation into the most notorious killer in New York, since the son of Sam, available now. Listen for free on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health. And I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer.
Starting point is 00:26:42 And like a lot of guys, I haven't been to the doctor in many years. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Because guys usually don't go to the doctor unless a piece of their face is hanging off or they've broken a bone. Depends which bone. Well, that's true. Every week, we're breaking down the unique world of men's health, from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility and things that happen in the bedroom. You mean sleep? Yeah, something like that, Jordan.
Starting point is 00:27:09 We'll talk science without the jargon and get you real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about. It's going to be fun, whether you're 27, 97, or somewhere in between. Men's Health is about more than six packs and supplements. It's about energy, confidence, and connection. We don't just want you to live longer. We want you to live better. So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. Hi, Kyle.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Could you draw up a quick document with the basic business business. plan, just one page as a Google Doc, and send me the link. Thanks. Hey, just finished drawing up that quick one-page business plan for you. Here's the link. But there was no link. There was no business plan. It's not his fault. I hadn't programmed Kyle to be able to do that yet. My name is Evan Ratliff. I decided to create Kyle, my AI co-founder, after hearing a lot of stuff like this from OpenAI CEO Sam Aldman. There's this betting pool for the first year that there's a one-person billion dollar company, which would have been like unimaginable without AI and now will happen.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I got to thinking, could I be that one person? I'd made AI agents before for my award-winning podcast, Shell Game. This season on Shell Game, I'm trying to build a real company with a real product run by fake people. Oh, hey, Evan. Good to have you join us. I found some really interesting data on adoption rates for AI agents and small to medium businesses. Listen to Shell Game on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. and we're back and guys the pressure is off it's slowest news time of the year everyone who makes news uh both the journalists and uh the famous people usually take a break from doing anything
Starting point is 00:28:55 interesting uh over the long weekend and we we get stories they wrote last week that they like try to pass off as breaking news i just got a breaking news alert on my phone from Smithsonian Magazine that scientists just discovered a second lion roar. I like that one. I know. Can you demonstrate it, Jack?
Starting point is 00:29:16 It's just like, that's what it sounds like. I was like, well, there might have been a reason. We didn't go with that one on the speak and spell. But, you know, we're in the doldrums of the news cycle. Let's luxuriate. And then I did just want to really briefly talk about
Starting point is 00:29:32 the one big breaking news story from this time of year, which was totally unplanned. It was such a weird story. So this is, for anybody who's trying to go viral this long weekend, I think it had some key elements because the very first version of the story we got didn't make any fucking sense. Do you remember? It was like, Tyree Woods crashed his car into his garden on Black Friday at 2 in the
Starting point is 00:29:59 morning while driving away from his house, as we all do. So it was like, day after Thanksgiving, he. He's driving away from the house, like, so fast that he crashes into a fire hydrant in his garden. I don't know. I guess when you're, when you live in a $10 million mansion, you have a fire hydrant in your garden. And then he was rescued from the wreck by his wife who had to break the back window of the car with a golf club. I was like, wait, what? Why did she have to do that?
Starting point is 00:30:31 You got to climb out the back of, I think it was like a big SUV. And it was, and then people are like, you know, the National Enquirer had just dropped a story about how he was having an affair. Like, it was like next to a story about like aliens. And so nobody took it seriously. But then it just like, that was the beginning. And then it was like the next week, 20 people came out and we were like, I fucked Tiger Woods. I fucked Tiger Woods. We're all fucking Tiger Woods.
Starting point is 00:31:07 So I think that's what you need. I think you need a story that gets people's attention, but also like sticks in their brain because they're like, wait, what? There's some pieces to still. Yeah, there's some things. There's a mystery to solve that we don't need the mainstream media's help with. In fact, the mainstream version sucks. And the fact that nobody's working, it's actually kind of helpful that nobody's working because
Starting point is 00:31:32 they just gave us this bold. shit, like straight from the mouth of Tiger Woods's publicist version of what they wanted it to be? Well, we love when a celebrity man cheats and then the lady goes off in some way. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Burn something
Starting point is 00:31:48 down, smash with something. So good. Those nudes or whatever. Oh, yeah. When Lisa left eye Lopez burnt down Andre Risen's, was that who did it? I feel like yeah, yeah, she burnt down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Like her boyfriend's mansion I know. I feel like the closest was recently was Puffy going after Kid Cuddy's car. Yeah. The worst thing he ever did. That's the one I won't forgive. I'm waiting for Melania's freak out. That would be so great.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I'm not doing Christmas this year. We're not decorating. Right. I mean, they do a good job. Yeah, they like keep because she'll disappear sometimes. That's what I'm assuming that is. It's amazing. She has him in such a, like, she's in such a powerful position right now, like, ever since all the Epstein emails dropped, and it was
Starting point is 00:32:38 like, not only as he mentioned, he's the most mentioned, he's the person whose name is the most all over these fuckers. He has been dropping, like, the White House was like posting just pictures of them holding hands being like,
Starting point is 00:32:56 Washington power a couple much. It was just like, they need her so much right now. And you know she's not happy in that marriage. Like she could, we could see like a fucking, I don't know. Something happened here in the coming days where she's just like, yeah, I don't fucking need this shit. She's like, this dude sucks, actually.
Starting point is 00:33:17 She tweets it. Yeah, yeah. He's not good. He's not nice to me either, guys. We were talking on Wednesday's trending episode about how at the White House, like, Turkey pardon media event, he just like went into this fake conversation between him and Melania that was like really forced. It was like when somebody forces in that they have a boyfriend or girlfriend so that,
Starting point is 00:33:43 you know, they're just like trying to let you know that people love me. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I have people in my life. They love me because it was like related. He was like, I should call these turkeys, Nancy and Chuck. But Malani would tell me not to do that, that I have to pardon them. And I'd say, darling. He, like, made up this fake dialogue that was, like, you guys have never talked to each other.
Starting point is 00:34:06 No. Were you guys following the story when that guy was on Twitter and he had been, like, a former, like, nanny? He had done child care for another kid at Barron's school for many years. And then he was saying, like, every day that she is ever at school, her, like, coffee cup is filled with wine. Yes. Girl. A jug of Chardonnay in the morning. amazing so she's a white wine drunk so that's why we haven't gotten the rant from her quite yet but the second she switches switches to red yeah uh any good people inside the white house maybe uh maybe be like you know i'd go well with that ham
Starting point is 00:34:45 11 glasses of wine 11 glasses of red uh my very good friend currently has her child at the um same school as the vance's child oh and so she just like sees them all the time and it's really bizarre but she's like I don't I can't like tell my kid to not play with that kid right yeah not nice not their fault necessarily I don't want to just casually talk to that fucking lady like no a demon you know right yeah but they you do the child like they do have the opportunity to open that child's mind because I have friends whose parents my parents were really progressive but I have friends whose parents were super conservative and they ended because like we talked to them like human beings and explain them how the world worked
Starting point is 00:35:35 they became like way more progressive you know you guys had like a commie reeducation camp for your friends you're like step in here my fellow comrade do you mind if I call you comrade um in third grade with yeah
Starting point is 00:35:51 um all right so let's get to the non news uh that we'll be covering the new six flag CEO kind of looks like the six flags guy we do mean kind of kind of yeah he's both bald and has glasses not old enough to really look like him
Starting point is 00:36:13 but his name's John Riley not John C. Riley and yeah they named a new CEO this is slightly related to a story that I wanted to cover a couple weeks ago where Travis Kelsey announced that he's part of an activist investor group that is investing in, like, bringing six flags back.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Is there any more evidence of the word activist means nothing now? Yes, exactly. There's not other shit to worry about, dude. I do love that. I think activists, like, technically in the world of finance, they've given up on it, meaning anything, like, progressive. And they're just like, it just means they want to, like, fire people, fire people and, like, change the leadership.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Yeah, they're like, Republican activist Ben Shapiro. You're like, no, he's a hateful nerd. Stop calling him. Activist. This is a good cause. It's fun. The cause is fun. This is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Okay? I'm team Kelsey on this one. Start a new one. Six flags is old and broken. Let's do eight flags. Okay. What about seven? What if we just start with seven?
Starting point is 00:37:21 You know? You're such a small thinker, Jack. I know. I don't know why you wouldn't just go right to eight. That's a really good point. The even number. has been working for so many years and by working, I mean, they're in a lot of debt
Starting point is 00:37:34 and thinking about declaring bankruptcy for like the 13th time. I'm underwater on this roller coaster, baby. You know anybody who's in the market? I don't understand though. Like, why are they failing? Like, I think theme parks are like perfectly timed for right now.
Starting point is 00:37:53 They put you out into the world with other people. They're thrilling. They are like the cure for what ails us. Everyone's like phones have ruined all the old stuff we used to like to do. This is the one fun activity that phones have made way better because now you have phones when you wait in line. Like you don't, it makes waiting in line.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Waiting in line is so much better than it was the last time you waited in line. I know. We used to play cards. We used to play 20. You brought cards with you. Oh, yeah. Did someone have to like get on all fours so you could like use them as your card table? in line.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Just sit on the ground. We used to play 20 questions just over and over. More mash, a lot of mash. By the third time, my dad was like, is this a character from Jaws? Yes. Is it Sheriff Brody? You got it in two this time. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:38:50 We know it's always Richard Dreyfus, Jack. I think they're just overpriced, but it's fucked up because that's like the one thing. There's not a lot of shit you could. offload from an amusement park. You can't like resell the coaster or whatever. I also don't want them to be struggling financially and then go on a
Starting point is 00:39:10 coaster knowing like hey they might be cutting some corners with the maintenance or... Right. Yeah. So we haven't lowered the price. We've raised the prices on cotton candy and there's more air in the cotton candy, less candy. But we have lowered
Starting point is 00:39:26 the amount of axle grease we use on the roller coasters. We've I always felt like that about Six Flags or it was like that. It's either operating those things. It's either like a meth addict or a teen and I feel safe with neither of those people. Yeah. Yeah. My ex, like the first time he met my niece who was 12 at the time, like we were at Six Flags Vallejo, maybe the worst one in the country.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Shout out. And they got stuck on a ride for three hours in like the burning hot sun. And I was just like, sorry, dude. And, like, he wore her down over time. Like, they came off really liking each other. Yeah, good friends. The plus side of six flags, unlike Disneyland, is that they sell big beers everywhere. So by the time he got off, I was just like, here's a jug of beer.
Starting point is 00:40:15 There's so much beer for you. Yeah. But it was a teenager, like, climbing up on the tracks to, like, fix something, God knows what. And it was terrifying. It's so scary. It's so scary. Yeah, it's the kid. It's like the teen from the Simpsons.
Starting point is 00:40:31 He's like, hello, you know, it's always that's like sunburnt and pimply. And you're like, my whole family's life is in his hands. I bet if you're a carny teen that's really skilled and good at your job, you're offended by this stereotype.
Starting point is 00:40:45 I bet totally. I can fix a coaster. I'm like a paper clip and he's like, he's a master genius. I've like really in my 30s and 40s like gotten new appreciation. Like we just, I went to this. park Kennywood outside of Pittsburgh, which is, I think, it's own thing and is so fun.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Like, it's just, I don't know. Like, if you go to a good theme park that's not, because I went to Disney World with my kids and it was like, we got stuck on rides and it's got all the same shit. It's just like five times more expensive than any. You're just paying for the IP at those places. It's the same level of ride, maybe a little. bit safer the rides but like I don't need like the the lack of safety is what kind of makes it fun you know also like Kenny is that just owned by a guy named Kenny that's yeah it's just
Starting point is 00:41:42 like a stepdad who's like yeah is it Kenny Rogers and you get to see there it's not no it's wait is he dead Kenny Rogers yeah he died during the quarantine so you might have lost track yeah it was like the first big celebrity death like maybe like I don't know, April or May 2020. I was devastated. That's tough. It's not Kenny Rogers. The other good thing that you get to see, like,
Starting point is 00:42:09 their misfires at, like, attempts to create IP, or it's just, like, a weird mascot. It's Kenny Powers. Just different people named Kenny. I know. I want to see some weird IP like that.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Like, yeah, like, if you found it down amusement park, like, well, that's fun. That would be so fun. Amazing. Yeah. This also, the CEO thing, I think that mascots should be
Starting point is 00:42:31 there should be a week where every company lets their mascot be the CEO and we get to see it. So like Tony the guy in a Tony the tiger costume. Yeah. I just found out there was a Twinkie's mascot. Never knew it in my life all these years. Is it a Twinkie with cowboy stuff? Yeah, he's a little cowboy.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Yeah. Oh yeah. We've all known for a long time. Every year, I think. Filled with cream. That's right. I'm sorry. Cream pie at himself. self.
Starting point is 00:43:01 I'm taking all combers. We-hound. I've got three holes on my back. Don't Twinkies have three holes? I feel like that sponge cake. You can, you know. Yeah. By the time I'm done with them, they got three holes.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Oh, God. Oh, God, Jack. I'm so sorry. Not too far, Jack. I know. That one was way too far. All right. Let's talk about the Catholic Church real quick.
Starting point is 00:43:26 I got to get a religion story in for Amy. Thank you. much. I know how much you love the Catholic Church. I don't know. My favorite. They've been doing stuff. There was an event at the Vatican
Starting point is 00:43:40 where clips performed with like a full orchestra. There's just like these little drips and drabs of this new pope just being like, guys, I'm cool. I thought I can get it. Just like pulling his hat around to the back. He sat down with like three trans people
Starting point is 00:43:57 for dinner and a chap. Yeah, yeah, exactly. What a hero. Yeah. Well, at least he's not like publicly anti. You know, I don't know. Well, yeah, it's something, but it's also hilarious. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Can you imagine having to be one of the like three mouthpieces for the entire trans community with the Pope? Right. It was like, be cool at dinner, okay? Right. Just being used as a prop for them to be like, hey, we don't hate you that much. Yes, exactly. But then what if one of those people was just like super fucking. annoying you know
Starting point is 00:44:30 you know we're thinking of we're thinking of acknowledging your personhood if that's I know it sounds crazy one person's just chewing with her mouth open the whole time that's a great idea to set an annoying one yeah
Starting point is 00:44:45 be like you guys got any chicken nuggets you have any catch up for the spaghetti oh Jesus Christ all right we're going to watch a little clip of this. It's basically they use the Pope as like the buildup to the drop. He like gives a weird little blessing. The son and the Holy Spirit come upon you and remain with you always. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. He like gives a big long blessing and then goes amen. Amen. Amen.
Starting point is 00:45:29 It worked. I'm Catholic again. I don't know where you guys are at, but that did it. Has this ever, has this ever worked? Like, trying to meet the people where they are by being like, we're actually kind of cool. And here's our leader, the mouthpiece of God, blown up 500 times his size to look like Snoke. And then just, like, opening a rave. Like, it is the best attack. like it's better than a cool youth minister like putting his hat on backwards yeah like taking out his acoustic guitar being like I got a song about a guy who's a little punk rock
Starting point is 00:46:10 and like that clips album is legitimately so good it's wild yeah but do we feel like this is gonna work are you guys catholic now are you interested i could feel our nation changing and becoming more and more hipp and Catholic. He needs to do like a full just Campbell soup level just like this company sucks. Right. Leak some audio
Starting point is 00:46:36 where he's like, these guys are fucking idiots. They're all child lesters. Like until he really acknowledges the place he works, I don't, I'm not going to trust him. I'm never going to think the Pope is cool unless he's like, we got a
Starting point is 00:46:53 couple things to fix around here. Right. Yeah, he needs to snowboard into mass. Then I'll start listening. I think you're saying a slightly different thing than Amy. I think Amy's saying like more substantive changes to the ideology. I'm saying snowboarding. I'm saying snowboarding. I think that would imply all the changes that we need. Just do a kick flip. Yeah. This is like they are marshaling all the powers at their finger. Like they're like, they're like,
Starting point is 00:47:25 Like, all right, we're going to do this in front of a grand cathedral and just have the Pope giant behind us. This is a weird thing that kind of happens. Like, I've been to these like cathedral shows like in Mexico and then in some like parts of France where it'll just be like, hey, stand in this courtyard of this beautiful cathedral and then they'll be like a light and DJ show. and that's like you know and a bunch of tourist groups go on it and it's like I don't know this I don't think this is the best way to showcase this architecture
Starting point is 00:48:01 right and then they think it's going to turn into a dance party and it doesn't it's just a bunch of people staring and it's very bizarre this has happened for a while but like I don't know if the Pope usually is there the Pope is usually like dropping bars on top of
Starting point is 00:48:18 let me just lace the track real quick well and in in st louis there was an abandoned church that since burned down but they speaking of amy you would love this they put a serious vert ramp in there and basically a skate park in this like beautiful abandoned church and it was really yeah the instagram was amazing i forget what it was called but it has since burned down but it's like may be very proud to be from st louis yeah finally amy you would have loved this i think i remember you saying something about uh how it would help if the pope would snowboard into a cathedral uh I think that was your point. I've been saying this for years. Yeah. They could also sell all those priceless works of art and give the money to the poor.
Starting point is 00:49:00 That'd be kind of chill. Da! Okay. Now we got some idea. Got a more. It is like, like, the last pope was like, I think we should be like more about poor people and that sort of thing. And this one's like, we're about EDM and dance parties. And birth control.
Starting point is 00:49:18 And birth control. He wants to fuck, dude. This pope fuck. I think he does. I do feel like he's had sex. Like, am I crazy? I don't think so. You'd have to ask God, but yeah, he doesn't...
Starting point is 00:49:31 Boston, right? Chicago. Yeah, those guys fuck, dude. From Chicago. He's been drunk at noon. He beat up a Cubs fan, and he had to. Yeah. All right, let's take a quick break.
Starting point is 00:49:46 We'll come back. We'll talk Black Friday. We'll be right back. I'm Kristen Davis, host of the podcast, Are You a Charlotte? The most anticipated guest from season three is here. The Trey to My Charlotte. Kyle McLaughlin joins me to relive all of the magical Trey and Charlotte moments. He reveals what he thinks of Trey giving Charlotte a cardboard baby.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Why would I bring her a cardboard baby? I was literally, I was like, this doesn't track for me at all. When he found out Trey's shortcomings. I'm kind of excited at talking about, you know, I think he's a guy spends time in Central Park. You know, he's probably, you know, there'll be some surgery stuff, you know. And I was like, all this kind of stuff going on. And they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, fine. And they said, but he's impotent.
Starting point is 00:50:34 And I was like, he's impotent. And why he chose not to return to it just like that. They came and presented an idea. And I was like, I get, I see it. It's so kind of a one joke idea. Right. You don't want to miss this. Listen to Are You a Charlotte on the Iheart radio app.
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Starting point is 00:51:17 Listen for free on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast. wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health, and I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like a lot of guys, I haven't been to the doctor in many years. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Because guys usually don't go to the doctor unless a piece of their face is hanging off or they've broken a bone. Depends which bone. Well, that's true. Every week, we're breaking down the unique world. of men's health, from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility, and things that happen in the bedroom. You mean sleep? Yeah, something like that, Jordan. We'll talk science without the jargon and get you real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about. It's going to be fun,
Starting point is 00:52:06 whether you're 27, 97, or somewhere in between. Men's health is about more than six packs and supplements. It's about energy, confidence, and connection. We don't just want you to live longer. We want you to live better. So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. Hi, Kyle. Could you draw up a quick document with the basic business plan? Just one page as a Google Doc and send me the link. Thanks. Hey, just finished drawing up that quick one-page business plan for you. Here's the link. But there was no link. There was no business plan. It's not his fault. I hadn't programmed Kyle to be able to do that yet. My name is Evan Ratliff. I decided to Great Kyle, my AI co-founder, after hearing a lot of stuff like this from OpenAI CEO Sam Aldman.
Starting point is 00:52:52 There's this betting pool for the first year that there's a one-person billion-dollar company, which would have been like unimaginable without AI and now will happen. I got to thinking, could I be that one person? I'd made AI agents before for my award-winning podcast, Shell Game. This season on Shell Game, I'm trying to build a real company with a real product run by fake people. Oh, hey, Evan. Good to have you join us. I found some really interesting data on adoption rates for AI agents and small to medium businesses.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Listen to Shell Game on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. So we're going to talk about Black Friday, which I think a lot of people associate with mayhem. Scariest time of the year. Yeah. Yeah. Can't even go. Can't even.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Can't even. fucking tickle me Elmo or like disembal this guy for tickle me Elmo you know what I mean but the sales have kind of they've changed they're now like migrating into October but the day is still being covered
Starting point is 00:54:00 like there's a story in the sun Friday frenzy inside worst Black Friday violence from Walmart worker trampled to death to shooting at Toys R Us five times Black Friday shopping madness turned violent even deadly Black Friday's most gruesome injuries and deaths through the years.
Starting point is 00:54:15 These are, that was a headline in the New York Post. Like, top five most gruesome injuries and deaths on Black Friday. Dude. There's a website that tracks every single Black Friday death and injury. The most recent death being 2021 because I think people are staying home. But it's also, have you guys seen the movie Thanksgiving, the Eli Roth movie? It's like an entertaining slasher movie that opens. there was a Bruce Campbell movie called Black Friday that I didn't see,
Starting point is 00:54:46 but Eli Roth Thanksgiving starts with a scene that is set in a Walmart-esque store on Black Friday and basically people just get just destroyed like someone's head gets like the top of their head gets ripped off. It's just like everybody tramples each other. Someone gets like destroyed, like multiple people die. It's very, it is what will always be in my head when I think of Black Friday from this point on. Like, they did a good job of capturing what I think we all think of when we think of Black Friday because we've seen the local news stories. However, there's some problems with this.
Starting point is 00:55:30 First of all, it's like very classist research has shown that the majority of Black Friday shoppers are people who are, you know, low income people looking for deals because they're struggling, which makes sense. Yeah, they're, as Brian put it, Campbell Soup buyers, if you know what I'm saying. But it's also, like, wildly overblown. Most Black Friday violence, usually it doesn't have anything to do with Black Friday. It's just any time someone gets hurt in or near a retail location on Black Friday, they turn it into a story like this. There are like all these examples when you look back at the stories where, like they don't report on the truth of it.
Starting point is 00:56:16 There was a story at like a Colorado mall where like these two teenage girls were fighting and they were like they were fighting over these like this buckle store and they were just like they hated they were two people who went to the same high school who hated and like started fighting. There's also like a Toys R Us shooting that it turns out like happened to the parking lot and it wasn't even on Black Friday and it it was gang, gang related. That's just a standard American shooting. Yeah, that's just a straight up normal American shooting.
Starting point is 00:56:48 USA. I feel like we grew up with just like, like in the East Bay, there's like the fighting mall. And then, yeah, exactly. But it's also like the fun mall a lot of the time. So yeah, the best malls are like, yeah, that's where you want to hang out because there's more other teens, you know, you might meet a boy or whatever. And then there was like the safe, boring mall where you won't get shot.
Starting point is 00:57:11 But also, everything's more expensive, oddly. You might get shot by it, but it's by the private security company that they've hired. It's just normal. Full of ex-Massad agents. I mean, what movie it makes me, I feel like it gave us jingle all the way. Right. You know, if you really think about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:29 And that's, you know, I mean, that beef wasn't only about the doll. That's, you know, Sinbad, they're both just trying to do the best for their families. And Sinbad has been treated poorly by the. the United States Postal Service. That's true. No. Not the U.S. Postal Service. I will say Eli Roth, by the way, the director of Thanksgiving, not always great at knowing how to tell the truth of between propaganda and reality.
Starting point is 00:57:57 He's like one of the most outrage, staunch pro-Israel voices in the world. He said, Greta Thunberg should be eaten by cannibals for trying to deliver aid into Gaza. so there's so many of these and same with that kind of filmmaking which can be fun but it's like so unsubtle it's like people who are and not you know I'm not I don't hate professional wrestling but there are people who've like
Starting point is 00:58:21 adapted that worldview of like a seven year old you know it's like extremely black and white I feel like those people are very likely to fall for propaganda and strong man shit I mean he is one of the key filmmakers behind the torture porn trend that
Starting point is 00:58:38 was like if you look at it in history was around the time that America started torturing people and he's like, hey, that's a good idea for a movie. Fun. Yeah. And it relates to this story too because it's like the, those
Starting point is 00:58:52 basically the media has kind of turned into like a modern version of rotten.com if you remember those websites. Yeah. This is like faces of death stuff but it's just like it's totally normalized. It's real weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:05 We need our bloodlust. He claimed the theme of his movie was the commercialization of Christmas and the hypocrisy of Thanksgiving when Americans go from giving thanks to trampling someone to death for a waffle iron. And it's like, all right. That's one way to interpret
Starting point is 00:59:19 this. The big story that I think everybody remembers. Who needs a waffle iron that anyway? They're not even expensive. I know. I know. That's what I'm saying. Guys don't trample each other to death for a waffle iron. Can I just? They're not that much. One of the few clear cut
Starting point is 00:59:35 examples of like Black Friday leading to a death. There was a Walmart employee who was trampled to death by a crowd after opening the store's doors back in 2008 and this is the scene that seemed to like directly inspire Thanksgiving. But
Starting point is 00:59:51 some people might argue that the unruly crowd was part of Walmart's plan to create a spectacle and generate publicity for their deals and like that this is like I think there's like you guys are saying there's always violence in
Starting point is 01:00:07 malls and like retail locations. every other day of the year, and that shit just, like, the mainstream media and retailers just agree not to report it because they're like, you know, that's bad for business. But this is the one day of the year where they're like, we can actually say what's actually going on. And in fact, like the violence is like good. It makes it seem like our deals are crazy. It's like, I'm crazy, Eddie. I'm slashing prices. Yeah. And it's also like, we don't we don't pay you enough money when you work and we hypnotize your children with billion dollar advertising so you're required to get the stuff and then when you are like clumsy
Starting point is 01:00:46 about it then we sort of make fun of you and exploit you yeah yeah yeah they basically like fostered the mob because they wanted to like create this sense of like oh my god and then it also for the people who are actually there not just with the media spectacle for the people who are there, like, everybody's making impulse buys. So it's, it's how they would ideally like us to shop. Like supermarket sweep style is just like, we let you in for 15 minutes and you have to get everything you can possibly get. But a lot of people have said that the Walmart thing was a textbook case of horrible, like negligent crowd control. Like, there are ways to, like, when you know there's going to be a crowd, you have security present, you have like safety
Starting point is 01:01:32 barriers in place. They didn't have any of that shit, even though they were specifically like trying to create this atmosphere of like frenzied shopping. Yeah, they had a guy on a megaphone going like, go ape shit and like an air horn and stuff. Who's fucking ready? That's what the greeters
Starting point is 01:01:48 do on left. Look to your left. Some 90 year old man just punches you in the face on your wood. Also, they didn't have like medics on hand or whatever like any way to like save him right. Yeah. Yeah. Nah, they're just like, ah, where is he?
Starting point is 01:02:05 I can only add to the chaos. I mean, they should have ambulances, like, parked outside with the lights on. That's right. Like when you're going into a crazy concert or whatever. Yeah. Why not? Feels so good, you'll be badly injured. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:20 The Occupational Safety and Health Review Commission find Walmart for the incident pointing out that the retailer failed to take steps that could have saved his life. Yeah. That the employee was exposed to a physical hazard that Walmart was aware of from previous Black Friday events and Walmart spent more than $2 million to try to overturn the $7,000 fine. God!
Starting point is 01:02:42 Not on like making sure it never having again to try and like make it so that they could be like, wasn't our fault. Uh-huh. Which is wild. So yeah, the moral of the story is like corporations treat their blue collar employees like shit and we'll spend millions of dollars
Starting point is 01:02:58 rather than admit that they do that. And then the moral that the U.S. mass media took is like blue collar people are basically zombies like the fucking kill each other for a fucking waffle iron dude they're crazy they love waffles and campbell soup that's right just pelting them with campbell soup cans amy as always such a pleasure having you on the daily zeit guys being here thank you so much where can people find you follow you see you all that good stuff yeah follow me at amy miller comedy on Instagram and everything pretty much. I'm heavy into threads now
Starting point is 01:03:36 since you last saw me. I'm a threadster. I don't have Twitter anymore. I'm big, yeah, so follow me there. I've only been mildly canceled once for a thread. Okay. About DeAngelo's come gutters. I shouldn't even say it.
Starting point is 01:03:53 They were so mad at me. Everybody was so mad. Why are they so mad? Was it like right after he passed? Yeah, but it was like in honor. I mean, that's a, yeah. Yeah, he was, well, he was hot in our view. Right, wait, okay, so if you're going to, like, make a statue and tribute to him,
Starting point is 01:04:09 will he not have amazing cum gutters? Are you just going to, like, not sculpts those into? I'm no longer allowed to vote on this statue. Okay. Be involved in any way. But I also said voice of an angel. I love the, anyway. Follow me there on threads.
Starting point is 01:04:24 And then I'll be in Seattle at the end of January, and I have tour dates at amymellercom. Go. Check them out. Amy, is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Oh, yeah. Oh, I mean, it's a thread. You know what? Really, when it's, when it started to take off for me, maybe my favorite tweeter of all time that I know and love as a personal friend, Solomon Giorgio, joined. Yes. So it's a, it's a Solomon post. Nice. And it says Ben Hayden Cowardly Lines since The Wizard of Us, acting all shy and afraid, but still men, to roller curl your hair before
Starting point is 01:05:03 stepping up with that. I mean, that's insane. I was just talking about how beautiful his hair is in that scene like two days ago. Yeah. So gorgeous. Yeah. With the red bow. Oh. And again, early, early. I mean, that's a bold choice. That's not a cowardly choice.
Starting point is 01:05:21 No. Yeah. Such a statement piece. Cowardly lion. And then just serving cunt, like, 100%. Yeah. I think he is the source of the second lion's roar. We got it. Yes.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Put them up. Put them up. That's so good. No, it's like a friend that you know is struggling and they come out like way too overdressed for the occasion. Like you're just meeting up at a bar or whatever. And then you're like, oh, you look amazing. And they're like, no, like don't bring it up.
Starting point is 01:05:52 No. Stop. No, I don't. I look like fucking shit. I look like shit. No, you're strong. You know you're how strong you are. Mort, where can people find you?
Starting point is 01:06:03 Is there a work of media? You've been enjoying. Yeah, follow me at at Mort Burke, been posting sketches and stuff on Instagram with my buddy Zach Mendoz. That's fun. This media thing involves the story. I want to go to a list of this.
Starting point is 01:06:15 That's my, yeah, that's my morning DJ voice. So, okay, my friend and I, we used to just text each other funny tweets, and I don't remember who tweeted this. So I need to know. But I texted my friend this tweet Just thought it was a funny tweet Getting my dick sucked at this webinar
Starting point is 01:06:34 He's like that's a great tweet But I accidentally texted that to my mom No And my mom texted me back She's like a She was an elementary school teacher She's always like I'm not funny She texted me back
Starting point is 01:06:50 Well we've all been there Oh Whoa Nice I know dude my mom's killing it That's really good. I think she might have been my teacher that showed me Mrs. That's right.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Check what's in the mug, Mort. Check what's in the mug. All right. You could find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien and on blue sky at Jack O'B, the number one. Not on threads, but maybe I should get over there. You got to get over there, guys. Me too, probably.
Starting point is 01:07:21 It's fun over there? People are living it up, huh? It's fun. It's really wild. Because you get a lot of input from straight. strangers, like way more than ever happened on Twitter. Wow. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:07:33 That's what I, that's what I'm in it for. Feed back from strangers. That's real sick. But they'll hate you for reasons that they made up because they have no context for you. Right. But you're actually getting sort of like a refreshing new view from people. Yeah, you're like, it's not me. They don't even know me.
Starting point is 01:07:52 This is what I should be insecure about now. Not the other stuff that people have been saying about me before. I give a whole new vibe that people find off-putting in a way that I wasn't even prepared for. I like to tweet by the onion, an article by the onion that says, man who thought Fleetwood Max the chain was over
Starting point is 01:08:12 in for the thrill of his fucking life. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zekeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it and there at the bottom you will find the footnotes which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode and we also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy with miles out we like to ask
Starting point is 01:08:40 brian the editor uh brian is there a song that you think that people might enjoy uh damn it jack don't you know it's incredibly dangerous to disturb someone when they're in a jazz hole oh Okay. You have been in a little, I've been getting some very smooth vibes every time we enter. Brian likes to have some music going whenever we enter the recording. You got to put that in a jazz hole sign on the door handle. So call me Chris Nolan, because I'm about to take you on an odyssey. Oh, no. A jazz odyssey.
Starting point is 01:09:17 What if Chris Nolan was also about to take us on a jazz odyssey? That was his interpretation. What if they're scathing? in this film No, he'd have to put a black person in a movie if he did a judge. Touche.
Starting point is 01:09:34 So this is Freakadelic by Jeff Parker's ETA for Shut us the vinyl. Yes. Albums called The Way Out of Easy and it's got everything Jack. It's got Jeff Parker on guitar. It's got Jay Bella Rose on drums.
Starting point is 01:09:50 It's got Josh Johnson, not the comedian and former guest, on saxophone and Anna Butters on bass. And they just make it up. It's amazing. They're just making it up. So that's the thing about jazz that I've heard. But I never believed it.
Starting point is 01:10:06 They're just making it up. Yeah. That sounds awesome. Well, so the song will be linked in the footnotes. Is that correct? Yep, yep. All right. Well, thank you, Brian.
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Starting point is 01:10:37 It's a super fun time. That is the correct pronunciation of Hayah. Thank you. Yours was better. I got an hour of Muppet impressions. Oh, hell yeah. Until then, have a great. the weekend. You're staying, Miller.
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