The Daily Zeitgeist - Bloomberg Pays ‘Influencers’, Heidi Klum Gets Called A White Woman! 2.10.20

Episode Date: February 10, 2020

In episode 566, Jack and special guest host Jamie Loftus are joined by Scam Goddess Laci Mosley to discuss how the mainstream media is portraying the 'top Democratic candidates' for the 2020 election, Uber and Lyft drivers problematic reactions to the Coronavirus, the Harvey Weinstein trial, Kirk Douglas, Heidi Klum defending America's Got Talent, and more!FOOTNOTES: Pete Buttigieg continues to surge in N.H. polling Mike Bloomberg Is Paying ‘Influencers’ to Make Him Seem Cool Inside the Ugly Uber and Lyft Driver Freakout Over Coronavirus This Is the Toughest Question Facing Harvey Weinstein’s Jury The 'ultimate feminist' defending Harvey Weinstein Harvey Weinstein's lawyer says she's never been sexually assaulted 'because I would never put myself in that position' Did Robert Downey Jr. Really Just Accuse Kirk Douglas of a Brutal Rape? Lana Wood, Natalie’s Little Sister, Has Plenty to Say Heidi Klum defends ‘AGT’ after Gabrielle Union calls out toxic work environment WATCH: Mac Miller - Jet Fuel (Audio) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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it's monday february 10th 2020 my name is jack o'brien aka drink a white claw drink a white claw uh judas priest maybe uh i think that is off of a crispy meme donut, a.k.a. But that contribution was from at Sir Brentsworth. And I'm thrilled to be joined by my special guest, co-host, Jamie Loftus! Hi! All I remember is she grew up with a back brace and she moved to L.A. The girl who hacks whose dog is Fashe. Locked with the host, J. May.

That's a Jeremy Renner kickback. Wow. Do you remember? I was like, in the middle of singing it, I'm like, oh, people don't know that Jeremy Renner song off the top of their head except for me. Well, they should. It's his one and only single. Not his best. No.

But one of them. Yes. It's no Nomad. His one and only single. Not his best, but one of them. Yes. It's no Nomad. That's his best single. Wait, was the one that you, was his single Heaven Don't Got a Name? That was a passage from Heaven Don't Have a Name. Okay. Jeremy Renner's a bad person, and Nomad is his best single that was in it.

Okay. Got it. Yeah. Well, Jamie. Mm-hmm. Miles and I are going on the road with our time machine and super producer Anna Hosnier. We're going to Brooklyn on

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uh and we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat this is a fucking powerhouse show we have today we are joined by another one of the faces on Mount Zite Moore. She is the scam goddess, Lacey Mosley. Hey. Hey. What's up? How y'all doing? I'm doing good. Good.

I'm doing good. It's great to have you here. It's great to have you both here. So then my fake Brooklyn accent jumped out. There you go. Is that Brooklyn? Okay. No, it's probably not. Don't tweet me about it. Yeah, don't tweet her about it. She't tweet her about it she'll just ask for your social security i will that's the only way i answer troll tweets now i need information first i heard about the red cross possibly being a scam uh when i was at the red cross the other day so

something that i meant to pass on to you off mic, but I was like bleeding out and someone was nearby like, this place is fucked up. Wait, who worked there? Wait, were you giving blood? No, someone who was, I was giving blood. See, I ain't never heard nobody say giving blood, call it bleeding out.

Got shot, Jamie. So I was bleeding out, like I do every Tuesday. At the Red Cross. And they just bagged it up. No, they... They bagged it up. They bagged it up. This is what happened.

I had a wound. It was bleeding everywhere. They bagged it up. They're like, you're in the right place. Gave it to somebody else. You're in the right place. They swept it up. But no, it was like someone who had come with another person. And they were like waiting in line for the bathroom.

And they're like, I don't know. I've read some pretty shady stuff about this. And then I looked it up. And they had. And because they like, you donate your blood. I've read some pretty shady stuff about this. And then I looked it up and they had, and because they like, you donate your blood and then they sell it. Yeah. Like they, I didn't know that.

I thought I was doing such a good thing. And then I was bleeding out and thinking about, I was like, oh, I'm doing a stupid thing. And then every like natural disaster, like is a payday for the American Red Cross. Cause we're like, what's a legitimate organization that we can all like that we know is huge? You can't be that big and not be doing some shady shit.

They have the most blood out of anyone. I don't know. If I wanted to give my blood to someone else, I wouldn't know where to go. You can give your blood to me. Actually, I have a friend named Todd. I would also sell his blood. He'd be on the streets like, hey.

I want to know who's getting the profit. You just have like a pint of O positive on the street. Oh, I got that O pies. I got that O pies. Get it while it's hot. Yeah, that's interesting to think about, though. I've read defenses of their policy of selling it because they need to have money to do the work that they do. have money to do the work that they do.

But that does suggest that they are rooting for natural disasters to get the funding that they need to sell the blood. I need to do more reading. I'm by no means an expert on this. I just know that I did it because my dad, that's his source of self-esteem, is giving blood. Oh, that's cool. And he was like, you got to do it. Better than most sources of self-esteem. Right,. Oh, that's cool. And he was like, you gotta do it. Better than most sources of self-esteem.

Right, that's a pretty chill one on the scale. His source of self-esteem is he's got good veins, and every time he goes to the Red Cross, the nurses compliment his veins, so he keeps going back. My wife pranks about having good veins. I do too, but I have bad blood. I got bad blood. Good veins, bad blood.

With a lot of I have bad blood. I got bad blood. You have bad blood. With a lot of people. I tried to give blood in high school to get the little cord. And they were like, sweetheart, you are severely anemic. We wouldn't give you your blood. I was like, you don't have to flex on me like that. You don't have to flex on me like that, okay? Well, I've got bad veins. We wouldn't give you your blood is such a hurtful thing for somebody to say to somebody.

They didn't even have to do me like that. They still gave me the cord, though, because I cried. Boomers are obsessed with blood donation. I've found my parents are both like, they're like, you got to give blood. You got to give blood. And then I was like, mom, do you give blood? And she was like, no, I had hepatitis. I'm like, you had hepatitis?

She had hepatitis. She got poked by something, and then she had hepatitis. Well, you said had, so it sounds past tense. But then you can never do it. If you had hepatitis once, you can never give blood your whole life. You can just bother your kids about it. So she's just like, as a family, we need to be putting out this amount of blood. She's like, I made you.

And I'm out. So by proxy, when you give blood, it's like me giving blood because I gave you my blood. Exactly. And you were talking about the fact that there is like a subway like punch card type thing at the blood bank where like if you give like 15 pints of blood, I don't know how much blood they give.

I don't know what the units are. A certain number. If you give it 18 times, they put your name on a plaque, and I respond very well to that kind of incentivizing. I was like, I'll see you next week. What's the most you can give Blubb? Once a week? No, once every two weeks you can give platelets,

and that's when you're bleeding all the way out and you watch Once Upon a Time in Hollywood while you do it. It takes like two hours. Oh, my goodness. It's scary. Wow. Well, Lacey, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we are going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about.

Up top, we're going to talk about Heidi Klum, a story that Lacey brought to our attention the moment, like a moment before we started recording. We're going to talk about how the mainstream media is dealing with the fallout from Iowa, the run up to New Hampshire. We're going to ignore the debate that happened on Friday just because we just weren't paying

attention. And while we're at it, let's ignore the Oscars. Yeah, let's do that too. Fuck both of those things. Yeah, we'll talk about those tomorrow, but I feel like both of those things need some time to ferment and settle in. Well, I mean, we're thrilled that Parasite won everything. Yeah, that was amazing. That was good.

We're going to talk about Mike Bloomberg, the Bloomberg campaign. Bloomberg is officially, by the way, on the 538 scoreboard now. So Bernie at two and five chances of winning the nomination. Nobody, like basically a broker convention, is at two and five chances of winning the nomination. Nobody like basically a broker convention is at one in four. Biden, one in five. Warren, one in 15. Buttigieg, one in 30, I think. Like they're not buying the Buttigieg thing, unlike the most of the mainstream media.

And Bloomberg, one in 100. He's on the board. He's on the board. He's on the board. He's on the fucking board. Hell yeah. Robert had a funny tweet about that. He was just like, well,

I guess we're back to rooting for Nate silver to be right about something. Damn it. Yeah. So we're going to talk about that. And why Mike Bloomberg should be like one of the favorites to win. I think based on this strategy, we've got micro influencers in the room. There's reason to believe Mike Bloomberg should be like one of the favorites to win, I think, based on this strategy. Listen, we've got micro-influencers in the room. There's reason to believe Mike Bloomberg should be the next president. We're going to talk about the coronavirus. We're going to talk about Benghazi as it regards Harvey Weinstein's trial and the passing of Kurt Russell.

Not Kirk Douglas. No, you said Kirk Russell! I keep fucking this up. It's Kirk Douglas. It's Kirk Douglas. Jamie put Kirk Russell in my head this morning, and now... Now I keep accusing Kirk Russell of doing terrible things. But first, Laci, we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

Ooh, I've done this show so many times that I forgot the search history once. So I'm genuinely going to pull it out of my search history right now, which terrifies me. I enjoy lying about it. That's what listeners don't realize. The more times you're on the show, the more honest your search history gets because you run out of made up things you can be searching for. Yeah, you run out of not like the other girls answers

right after a while uh here we go not like the other girls oh uh my answering strategy

I'm like I don't know if I've oh okay I looked up um Donald Trump's zodiac sign oh that's actually a great question

wait what is his chart like it's a fucking Gemini oh so Geminis this is on you wow Geminis, this is on you. Wow.

Geminis, defend yourselves. Are Geminis the twin ones? Yeah. So, which one of our cast? Is it Andre or Big Boy? Who's Gemini? Yeah. From Equemini.

That's... From Equemini? What? That sounds like... Equemini is the name of one of their albums because they are Aquarius and Gemini. I feel like Andre would be an Aquarius. He's got Aquarius vibes. He does have Aquarius vibes.

Do you want to take a bet on that? I would say Andre's an Aquarius. Okay. So I've pulled up their birthdays. Oh, this is just when they were active as a group. Can you just give me their birthdays? I know I spelled it wrong. My boyfriend's a Gemini and it's confusing.

Yeah, they got the two faces. That's why I'm like, Donald Trump, he has two faces. This makes sense. You could turn on me at any moment.

So I guess I don't even know what Donald Trump's two faces are though. It's Gemini is Andre. Okay. Fuck. What? Damn it.

They're so deceptive. I love both of them. They're great. Yeah. So Andre 3000 just like Donald Trump. Yeah, exactly. I love both of them. They're great. Yeah. So, Andre 3000, just like Donald Trump. Yeah, exactly. You heard it here first. So, they are supposed to be deceptive, have two faces, which is what we hear about Donald

Trump when he will be one thing to his base. He's out there saying, I'm going to build the wall, and then total other thing behind the scenes. I mean, basically, all politicians need to be Geminis, right? Yeah. I mean, not all Geminis, which is the name of a great meme account. Yeah. Not all Geminis, but some Geminis.

Yeah. I think they need to be Cancers. They're, ooh. Cancers are great. We are. Cancers are great. They're fantastic. Leos are annoying, but I like us.

There's a lot of Leo. You're a Leo? Yeah. Really? I'm a Leo, yeah. Me too. Yeah. Leo gang. We're fantastic. Leos are annoying, but I like us. There's a lot of Leo. You're a Leo? Yeah. Really? I'm a Leo, yeah. Me too. Leo gang. We're annoying.

We're the worst. I have them around me so much. My mom's a very strong Leo. Very strong Leo. She's imposed a lot of her personality on me. My mom was a parent who had a child and was like, yes, make you in my own image. My mom brags about stuff that I do, but it's always to her.

So one of my best friends works with my mom and she'll be like, oh, your mom told me. She was like, yeah, you might see someone who looks like me on TV tonight. That's how my mom says that I'm on TV tonight. You might see someone who looks like me. See someone who looks like me. I love when a mom's like,

I'm going to do the mental gymnastics to make this about me. Every single time. And it's amazing. It makes me laugh so hard. We're talking about our family reunion. And she was like, oh, my God, Lacey, people are already treating me different. Treating her different. Yes.

Yes. Of course. Of course they are. I love it. That was a big deal for her. Right. That she. It's like I've accomplished so much. Yeah, that's amazing.

What is a Leo trait that you see coming out of yourself that your mom imprinted on you? What do you see? I'm super like, not like aggro, but I'm very like, when I walk walk into like i've been filmed entering so many birthday parties i can't count that's how you make an entrance like you make such an entrance that everybody yeah people just film me or they like talk on the dj booth i'm like lacy's a rot like it's happened so many times and i was like this is big leo energy yeah i wish i i'm like

that's the kind of energy I've got. I was like, is there a different kind of Leo? Because I have never been filmed during a birthday party. Jack, has anyone cared when we arrived somewhere? I like arrive through the basement as quietly as possible and tiptoe up the stairs. Jack and I walk in and they're like, who? Who is that? There's the thing about the Irish exit where you say goodbye without anybody noticing you're leaving.

I do an Irish entrance as well. I do both. Or I just come in there like, oh, have you been here the whole time? Are you sure you're not breaking in? Yeah. I mean, part of it is that I was not invited to these parties. I come through the window. That's a big Leo energy.

You act like you belong in any space. Right. I think shy Leos are out there. We exist. Yeah, we do. But a lot of us don't. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated?

Hanging out and meeting up with your friends at bars. Yes. I've recently, like I've gone ice skating and roller skating and i went and played kickball with my friends and we had a little pizza party afterwards like i was god damn 10 years old and it was so fun and it was not like we have to congregate around drinking and feeling like shit the next day or saying things you don't want to say or revealing too much. You literally like, go play sports. Go bond with each other. Have a fun activity.

I encourage you guys to be like, oh yeah, let's hang out this weekend. Let's go. I mean, everyone fucking hikes. Fuck hiking. Do something. I like competitive sports. I like something where I was sliding in dodgeball. I was like pegging people and jumping and grabbing the ball. I broke two nails.

Pegging people. Nice. Yeah, it got sexual. Competitive pegging. But yeah, just something where you like remember how nice it is to be alive. It's so wholesome too. Yeah, I felt good about myself afterwards too. I've never left a bar and was like, oh, I feel so good about myself.

Even if I had a good time, I'm not like, go me. Because I was at a bar. But going and hanging out and having a little athleticism trickled in, oh, it's so good. That's so nice. I love that. I feel like as generations go by, we will be less oriented around alcohol

as the only acceptable like social lubricant and like bars will become less of a of a thing yeah because i don't mind them but it's like it feels like especially in la it's like that's the place to go hang out with people and like the more that i age i'm like i want to just do fun stuff that feels good and makes me feel good. I like hangs that accommodate a lull in a conversation, too. Bar hangs do not. I mean, you have to be screaming at each other the whole time. So if you stop talking, it's like this thing of like, oh, do they not like me?

They want me to go away? Yeah. Why are we not talking about the weather anymore? But if you're roller skating, that's a whole other thing. Just roller skate away. Or you can wear roller skates into a bar. Yeah, let's jack. Jack is an Irish roller skater.

And then you're slowly backing out on roller skates. That Homer Simpson meme would work so much better if he was on roller skates. Just rolling away. Glided back. What is something you think is underrated? would work so much better if he was on roller skates. Right. He glided back. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated, I think setting your friends up with your other friends who they don't know

and wouldn't run into all the time. And this is probably very self-serving. No one in my life is setting me up with anybody, and it's ridiculous. It is ridiculous how much they're not setting you up it is right because like i feel like it's hard i don't dating apps are hard dating apps are a bad place uh i've tried them i've had a lot of weird social interactions it's getting worse the more that i become recognizable um which is not a lot i'm not famous by any stretch of the imagination

but i have like i've gone on a date and then a bartender bought all my drinks and was like I love your show and I was like but the guy didn't know what I did

and I totally was kind of like downplaying it and you can do that in LA if a guy asks you oh if you're an actor you just be like yeah I'm an actor yeah it's cool

they're like how's it going I'm like it's cool because I'm not going to list my fucking IMDb for you I hate that shit no you want to like get to know someone actors get so disrespected in LA

and I understand why because a lot of people will be out here saying they acted and they're not in nobody's class, they're not in nobody's auditions, they did not get nobody. You know what I mean?

They're not doing anything to even try. It's one of those careers that you can say you're doing but have no proof and it's fine. You can't be like, I'm a doctor

and then I'm like, where'd you do your residency? You're like, I don't have proof that you're an actor. Yeah, I'm more like a doctor. And then I'm like, where'd you do your residency? You're like, I'm more of a informal. Yeah. Yeah. I'm more like aspiring doctor.

Oh, what college are you in? You know, I'm more just like thinking about medicine. I mean, Dr. Phil did that shit. I'm taking a break. I'm actually taking a break from doctor right now.

Just trying to find myself. Yeah. You really can't do that, but you can do that with acting. So I just, my rule of thumb now is if anybody asks me in an Uber or on a date, I'm like, yeah, it's cool. I won't tell you what I do for real. So I was getting away with that.

And the date was okay. I knew I never wanted to see him again. But it was fun to talk to somebody. And then the bartender just blew my spot. I mean, free drinks are free drinks, but that's also like, come on. Well, he was paying. I thought I was about to be free anyway.

Well, then fuck. I feel like bartenders normally have better discretion than that. I'm not against, like, it was a nice gesture. I'm not mad at the bartender.

Bartenders, give those free drinks out, baby, especially to me if you see me out. Like, this is not a PSA to not give me free drinks, but I was just trying to hide.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm like, I feel like all my friends are like normies. And so they should like know other normies and set me up with them. Right. Yeah. All right.

Now my brain's working. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. Please, Jack. Old normies too. Old normies with a good amount of coin. They don't need to be rich, but I don't want them trying to hit me up for debt. Right, right.

Right there. It's gotten bad. Like, I dated a guy, and we're friends now still. And I was like, so who are your friends? Right. Oh, no. Just because this didn't work out between us. Right.

Like, you know people that are like you that I might like better than you. Yeah, you know somebody who's emotionally available, but just like you that I might like better than you. Yeah, you know, somebody who's emotionally available, but just like you. So you say, when somebody asks what you do for a living, you say actor? Unless I'm in a car and I don't want to talk. If I'm in a car and I don't want to talk, then I'll be like, I am in billing and coding.

Oh, wow. I pick something that I think no one will have any questions about. Because I feel like I only see billing and coding people or nurses or whatever on TikTok, you know, doing body walks. Yeah, I didn't know they existed before then. Yeah. That's where they really came into their own. I learned about that profession off the TV.

Right. They'd be like, come to this school off TV for billing and coding. Jamie, do you say comedian? No, I'll say no, because then that's a bunch of follow-up questions that you don't want. Right. Oh, you're a comedian? Tell me a joke. The same thing where you're like, I'm a podcast.

And they're like, are you Kevin Hart's podcast? You're like, I'm not Kevin Hart's podcast. Are you Kevin Hart? Well, that's what happens when you say you're a comedian. They're like, are you Kevin Hart? I'm like, I'm not Kevin Hart. Are you Joe Rogan though? And then they're like,

are you Joe Rogan? I'm like, I'm not Joe Rogan. And they're like, that's everyone I know. And then I, no, I say, I give like rom-com jobs. I'm like,

I'm an editor. Oh, right. Yeah. I mean, you do so many things. I work at a museum. Yeah, yeah. I work at a museum. I give Jennifer Garner answers.

Because the bottom line is if you have to ask somebody what you can see them in, they're not famous enough for you to know who they are anyway, so stop asking that. I don't like people whipping their dicks out about their jobs either. I'm like, I'd rather just talk about, I'm like, what do you want to talk about? Let's talk about that. Right. Finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false uh i actually tweeted this the other day but um bernie sanders is one year older than joe biden

and i just want to say that out loud just in case people didn't know because how old he is yeah so bernie sanders is 78 joe biden is 77 and i feel like the media portrays joe biden to be like our young fun uncle who's just like joe biden no not no yeah joe biden they portrayed joe biden as young fun uncle i think it's like quirky uncle yeah and then bernie sanders is father time which is i know they always give bernie such a hard time about like they're like he's gonna die and they were saying that the last election cycle too and he was four years younger and Joe Biden is meanwhile like I mean I

don't wish him ill health at all but he's decaying before our very eyes like he's got bad plastic surgery and he's flexible it just doesn't seem like his mind is all there but if I've learned anything from Jerry Jones you can get a bad facelift and then like 20 years later, grow into it.

Yeah. Okay. I remember when Wolf Blitzer got his eye work and I was like, he looks like he's an animatronic Wolf Blitzer right now. But then like five years later, he just looked like a younger Wolf Blitzer. So it's just, you got to grow into your face work guys.

That is my message to the people i saw a picture with bernie with his foot on a table i'm like yeah he's fine i saw that too his foot it was like a high up table like melissa mccarthy style like how big like in a movie where they're like all right we've got to get witnesses like he he had like his foot on a table. That was a great demonstration. He definitely reads younger to me, just his energy. I don't know, his hair gives me old,

disheveled. Wiry. Yeah. He's got young people opinions too. Yeah, he does. Right. He's every young person's favorite. They're all, in my opinion,

too old to be running for office. Right. I think when you're in your golden years, I'm not going to call them twilight years. That's fucking rude. Yeah. But like, we're in our golden years. Like, should you be running a country when you are 80? Right.

It's very strange that we... I know. But then it's like we're just left with... Wasn't Barack Obama in his 40s when he was elected president? Yeah. He was in his 40s. That's optimal. Yeah.

That's a good age. That makes sense. Like, that's a good age. That makes sense. That's like, I think 40s, and then maybe we stop at 70. Right. Like right in there, sweet spot, 30 years. Yeah. Got wisdom, you got gravitas, you got great.

I'm for doing away with the age limit because I would have been fine with AOC running this year, but she's considered too young. Yeah, because you have to be 35 to start running. but she's considered too young. Yeah. Because you have to be 35 to start running. But here's the thing. We don't have a youth option right now. Why don't we have an age cap if we have an age minimum?

Right. Because you shouldn't be 80 in the White House. I'm sorry. It's too old. We know what happens. There's degenerate. Like, we all are dying every day. Right.

I feel too old to be president now. And I'm in my 30s. Yeah, I don't, I think it's just inertia. It's the inertia of like these people have had time to get a lot of money and like meet a lot of people and be in a lot of rooms and now they just yeah despite the fact that they're like operating it 60 percent of what they were we we were just watching a video of donald trump on uh new year's eve 1999 and he is like a coherent 1999, and he is like a coherent person. His sentences make sense?

Yeah, his sentences are, he speaks in full sentences, and he looks like he knows where he is. Does he have to take lots of deep breaths for his nose? No, it's a totally different person. And yeah, now he's like a less intelligent, less with it version of himself, and he's the most powerful person. In the world. Maybe in the history of the world now that he has completely demolished the.

History of the world. I know you guys probably already talked about him retweeting that Donald Trump 2020 all the way to like 20, 21. Yeah. 2100 where he's a brain in a vet. I. That's our reality. Yeah.

He's going to do it. I don't think that people realize how powerful this man is. The legislative branch just completely ceded all power, all checks to him. We don't got no checks no more. We don't got no balances. Yes. No balance. Show me a balance.

Show me a recent balance. Right. We don't got no scales. Show me a balance. Show me a recent balance. Right. We don't have a scale. Show me a check. The scales are gone. The clip art scales that I thought were working are not working. We're taking them just down. Libra, scales are just for you now.

Hope y'all got y'all's tattoos because the scales are gone. I don't know what that means, but I'm sure it makes sense. In regards to age, I mean, it is like a tricky thing. I wish that there was a young candidate that we had, but it's just like, we don't have the options this time around. It's a bummer. I feel like it's just like in any other aspect of our economy. Like, yeah, it's hard to amass wealth for most of us as a young person. But every now and then there's somebody who shoots up and is hot and sexy and is a little pop star.

And that was barack obama and we don't have any little pop stars right now rising to to the occasion i mean i wish aoc could run i'm like aoc makes me like i mean and and i mean there's a lot of great options but like it would be i feel like aoc is the only woman who could win yeah i genuinely think elizabeth warren cannot win because of what hillary clinton has said is a precedent for women running for office and i feel so bad about it but i think that white women will abandon us if a woman is candidate and hillary clinton has proven that like she literally came out of the womb like shaking hands and doing deals and like has been the most presidential person and yeah she's done some shit because you can't be in politics for as long as she has and not been involved or at least adjacent she has done some yeah she was overqualified to be the president

and that is not a compliment that's not always a compliment yeah i mean it just means you've done a lot of shit some some good shit some bad shit but, when you have to call a truce on Epstein mudslinging because your husband was involved. You're like, oh, everyone has been on the Lolita Express. Amazing.

I mean, her husband was involved also. She spent like consecutive years at Epstein's New Mexico like weird Epcot center ranch that was like Old West themed. But I will have to say though like when you're

that rich and I know when I'm nasty rich and somebody tells me about some secret shit going on I'm gonna go wanna go peek my head in there and see what's going on. Now if they told me it was Lil Baby's in there I wouldn't go. But I don't think everybody knew that Lil Baby's was there. Yeah that's probably fair. You know what I mean like they was probably like we going to a secret mansion.

She's eccentric. But I'm not defending anybody who was hanging out with MC. No, I mean like Matt Groening went on the plane. Scott Rudin went on the plane. Everyone went on the fucking plane. Malcolm Gladwell. Malcolm Gladwell went on the plane. I forgot.

The list of people who were on the plane is really bad. But at least Hillary Clinton is disparaging viable candidates to promote her Hulu documentary. So very brave. Very brave. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre.

It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance. It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar,

the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Santos! Santos! Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of my Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit,

where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print. A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on.

Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. On segregation academies, when the civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Laurie Santos, host of the Happiness Lab podcast. As the U.S. elections approach, it can feel like we're angrier and more divided than ever.

But in a new, hopeful season of my podcast, I'll share what the science really shows, that we're surprisingly more united than most people think. We all know something is wrong in our culture, in our politics, and that we need to do better and that we can do better. With the help of Stanford psychologist Jamil Zaki. It's really tragic. If cynicism were a pill, it'd be a poison. We'll see that our fellow humans, even those we disagree with, are more generous than we assume. My assumption, my feeling, my hunch is that a lot of us are actually looking for a way to disagree and still be in relationships with each other. All that on the Happiness Lab.

Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season. That's right. The challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season, y'all. And we are coming along for the ride. Woo-hoo. That would be me, Devin Simone. And then there's me, Davon Rogers.

And we're here to take you behind the scenes of, drumroll please. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Challenge 40, Battle of the Eras. Yes. Each week, cast members will be joining us to spill all of the tea on the relentless challenges, heartbreaking eliminations, and of course, all the juicy drama.

And let's not forget about the hookups. Anyway, regardless of what era you're rooting for at home, everyone is welcome here on MTV's official Challenge podcast. So join us every week as we break down episodes of the Challenge 40 Battle of the Eras. Listen to MTV's official Challenge podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. and we're back and the mainstream media has continued at least through the end of last week to cover pete buterjee as though he's now the favorite uh he i mean his whole campaign was

focused on iowa he tied in iowa maybe won by like.01% we the Democrats still have to recount we will never know it's not a recount they have to re-canvas which I've been told

not a recount it just means they have to re-add all the votes which is not totally that sounds like a recount to me that sounds like a definition

of a recount re-adding votes shadow app what do you think yeah Sonny worked on the shadow app also like That sounds like a definition of a recount. Re-adding those? Yes. Shadow app? What do you think? Yeah. Sonny worked on the shadow app. Also, like... Sonny is...

Also, we have no hope in high hell of a fair election if the Dems can't even keep our shit together on our side. We know the Republicans will cheat, but if the Dems are already cheating in the primaries, it's a wrap on democracy. Sonny is Jamie's alt-right dog, by the way. He was amazing. He invested in Shadow.

That's a big investment. But yeah, I mean, Buttigieg just went on every cable news show, every network news show. He was on Pod Save America as their candidate interview. That was frustrating. I didn't listen to it. For some reason, I've stopped

paying much attention to them. I'll probably start again as things kick back up. They are, without a doubt, knowledgeable and have an inside view of how things work. They're all named John. And so it gets confusing.

Both literally and figuratively. They're all named John. They're all named John. Yeah, the Boston Globe covers it as Pete Buttigieg surging and closing on Bernie Sanders in New Hampshire. That got elevated to the front page of Drudge. And a lot of people are covering it that way.

But 538 still has Sanders in control, having a much better shot. I think a two-thirds shot in New Hampshire. Getting more minority votes. Yes. Yeah. I mean, that's something that is sort of being buried, is that Sanders is, you you know becoming the more conventional choice for people of color in the race but like that's just not really like because he was seen as like the

choice for white men in 2016 uh that like I feel like that narrative hasn't quite taken hold anywhere except for on twitter right yeah people are talking right yeah it's it's frustrating uh being a minority a double well triple minority actually but like um and realizing that it's always about tokenism even like white liberals are just as problematic as the white people on the other side like we're just here to be you know your fucking workhorses like we always have been. You tear the country apart, we help you build it back or do a lot of the building. Slavery.

And so it's frustrating that we're still in this position. I wish that Pete Buttigieg could be the candidate to win this, but he's not because he just has the worst fucking background when it comes to black people. And we don't discriminate on that. got we took to kamala to task about it i spoke with kamala personally about it like and and we're gonna do the same with pete budaj i'm like you think you're gonna make it to the white house ignoring black people just you wait bitch like we're the pettiest of them all we wait right here we go into the polls like we always do okay yeah yeah so and

not for you he had that weird comment too where he was like, I don't need your vote. And you're like, Pete? Wait, what? Honey? I didn't see that comment.

You do. Yeah. You absolutely do. Wait, I respect him now. He has said some shit. He's like, I don't need it. There was a conversation where somebody was like,

hey, are you gonna, like they asked him like something. He just got lazy. He's like, hey, are you going to... They asked him something... He just got lazy. No, no. Oh, no. They asked him something very straightforward. They were like, are you going to correct this thing

that you lied about? A voter said this, and I don't think he knew he was on camera, but he just went, no, and walked on to the next person. It was just straight up, like, fuck you. I feel like there's a mean rat fucker

inside Pete Buttigieg that you know that's coming out a little bit more and more but I feel like he would be a great person to have on your campaign like behind the scenes cause he has like all that CIA

dark ops shit going on like he's got a background in like yeah right he will do he will do the evil shit that needs to be done to win uh but i don't feel like he's the person to be not this time pete candidate no matter how many times people tell me like it was kind of jarring, too, to be like, oh, we're back on Pete? Like, after Iowa, I wasn't anticipating us to be back on Pete specifically. I wasn't either. I thought that we were going to let it to rest. And then it's interesting because I'm also seeing, like, a lot of people talking about, like, how huge this is for people who are openly gay.

And then there's two sides of that coin. One side of the coin is black and brown, people being like he is the most sanitized gay man and people forget he's gay and that's why they don't care about it because he is a white man. And then the other side of that is like a lot of gay people feel very afraid to publicly display their homosexuality

or publicly display anything that would tip others off to them being gay and it's a terrifying thing because obviously people are still being killed for it. So there's like two sides of like how he purports himself that I think are both equally valid but he just doesn't seem like a revolutionary person and I think that has

more to do with his personality than the makeup of who he is. It's politics. Yeah like I respect Pete's place in history absolutely like that is a huge step to have an openly gay candidate out there, but his politics suck.

Yeah, that's the same thing with Kamala Harris. You think we didn't want to vote for a black queen and an AKA no less? We was about to be turning the fuck up, but unfortunately she was policing the shit out of black people and could not explain her way out of it. That's all we needed was for her to walk into the fire and just deal with it instead of trying to explain it away. It's like, needed was for her to walk into the fire and just deal with it. Yeah.

Instead of trying to explain it away as like, I was trying to dismantle the system from the inside. It's like, sis, that's not what was happening. Yeah.

Yeah. And Pete has refused to do that too. I don't know why politicians skirt away from the truth. I think it's an old style that used to work before we had, you know,

more access to information. But like in the age of like Twitter, it really is just easy to be easier to be like i fucked up like let me listen and what can i do better i feel like that will play better with almost anybody or one more wild pitch donald trump may tell the truth why do y'all just get out here start lying real good i'm making it i do think that's what pete did with uh we won we're the we're the winners. Yeah. That didn't work though. We were like, please,

shut your ass down. It did though. He said that, and literally, he did that, and everyone booked him on their show. What? Yeah.

That's when it was like, no you didn't win. Okay, I guess that's because we don't like him. Because I was like, my Twitter timeline was like, Pete out here lying.

I think it was a Solomon Giorgio tweet where he, when Pete tweeted his victory, he was like, I think Pete just published all his drafts. I know. It really, yeah. Katie Golden, who hosts Creature Teacher on our network, tweeted that she thought his

tweet deck was malfunctioning because it was like every two minutes, it was a different tweet about the fact that he had won. And it was like, oh, these look like it's just like non-stop like it's just publishing yeah all your drafts you know what i take it back pete you keep it up because you're right we weren't thinking about pete being in this race anymore until he lied and said that he won right pete keep lying keep scamming it's a real scam god move like we need a scammer to beat a scammer and trump Trump is the ultimate scammer. He's had a fake university. He does club appearances as president. Yeah.

Like, he'd be robbing everybody. Like, the list goes on and on and on. So if we're going to take out a scammer, we've got to have another scammer. Damn it, maybe I'm voting for Pete Buttigieg now. I mean, after— You're going to vote for your favorite villain. After Iowa, I mean, it's just like it was getting to the point where you're like, oh, this is like things are going to – it's like not going to be calm ever for the rest of the year. Like it's just going to get worse and worse and worse.

And it's so hard to keep up on the correct information because even like the candidates are giving you bad info. Right. Twitter is giving you sometimes bad info or like even the way the Twitter timeline works where like I was trying to get – Eight hours old information. Yeah. Right. And then it's wrong by the time you see it, but people you know liked it eight hours ago. You're just like, how do I know?

It's exhausting. I watched the State of the Union, and I was like, who's fact-checking this? I remember when there used to just be somebody on who was just fact-checking everything that the president said. Donald Trump was lying so hard and so fast. Nobody could keep up. It's so confusing. That person who was fact-checking his presidency

died of old age at the age of 42. They're just like, oh my god. I just can't believe, like, yeah, it's, imagine being like a fully undecided voter at this point. I would be so fucking confused. I'm like, I don't know who to trust. I don't know who to believe.

I mean, even among people that you know, it's hard to get good info because the ways that the algorithm is arranged. You could be getting old info or bad info by the time you see it. It's a mess. It's a mess. Fortunately, I think us influencers have our candidate chosen. Oh, yes. I have good news.

Mike Bloomberg. The Bloomberg campaign has quietly begun. Mr. Stop and Frisk himself. Yes. Has some names. Man of the people. They are putting advertising for influencers on a platform called Tribe, which is a branded content marketplace that connects social media influencers with brands. And they're looking for some influencers

to, you know, shout out their boy, LL Cool Bloomberg. LL Cool, can I read what they posted on Tribe? Which I'd never heard of Tribe before. Yeah, I'm about to get on there. I guess I'm not on that Tribe level. I will take Bloomberg's $150 and post my Instagram stories. Okay, so the Bloomberg campaign is pitching micro-influencers,

someone who has 1,000 to 100,000 followers, okay? Everyone in this room qualifies. To create original content quote that tells us why Mike Bloomberg is the electable candidate who can rise above the fray, work across the aisle so all Americans feel heard and respected. Are you sick of the chaos and infighting overshadowing the issues that matter most to us? Please express your thoughts verbally or for still image posts. Please overlay text about why you support Mike. The campaign copy tells Bloomberg stands. That's me.

Do I have to submit it to them before I get paid? Can I just put it on my page? I don't know. Identify heavily with rich white billionaires. I don't think anybody could represent me, a black woman, better than Mike

Bloomberg. I will troll Mike Bloomberg so hard and take his money. That's the thing. I'm like, we could all get $150 out of this and then post the least sincere thing ever. The only rules are you can't swear and you can't post nudes, which would be funny if you just posted a full-ass naked picture,

like vote for Mike Bloomberg. Wait, is it only Instagram or across all platforms? I think he's going for Instagram people specifically, but that was reported on in the Daily Beast recently. Is this on Tribe? Tribe. Have you heard of that? No, I haven't heard of Tribe, but I'm going to take my ass right,

I'm going to scoot on up there. You should. Micro-influence your way to the top, baby. That's unbelievable. So, I mean, he's winning, clearly. I mean, this is how you get to one in a hundred. It is by micro. He's the micro winner.

Yeah, 538 is taking notice. He's doing grassroots, but the billionaire way. Also, for a billionaire, I'm like, you're only giving people $150? Yeah, come on. Come up off it, Michael. See, this is why we don't fuck with you. You don't want to get off these monies. Pay me a salary. Give me money. That is, yeah, but that up off it, Michael. See, this is why we don't fuck with you. You don't want to get off these monies. Pay me a salary.

Give me money. That is, yeah, but that couldn't be more billionaire. Like the paying people on a tech platform to do like labor for you and like wildly underpaying them. Woohoo. So Uber and Lyft are not helping with the coronavirus panic that is going on. And in fact, if you're an Uber or Lyft driver, you have to call them to have them even be like, hey, wash your hands a lot and wear a face mask. That is the advice they give drivers who actively seek help, but they're not seek help, but they're not proactively giving that information out to their drivers. And this is leading to a lot of just really shitty behavior on behalf of Lyft and Uber

drivers, and specifically racist behavior towards Asian Americans. Right. Which is wild because it's not just in China anymore. Right. That's the whole issue if you were smart you would be prejudiced against everybody because that's not what it's about anymore

it's crazy how everyone will use anything to insert some kind of superiority you know what I mean you're not protecting yourself by doing that also if someone has the coronavirus it has no race and those face masks won't do much to help you. That's what the news is saying.

This driver was pointing out whenever there's a service shutdown or surge pricing, they let the people know. They let their drivers know immediately, like, hey, here's what you can do to make more money for yourself and us. But they have not like done, have not issued a single, uh, you know, communication that helps with people's just knowledge of this. Um, and somebody,

uh, Lillian Wang was, uh, writing on, I think medium about having, she was returning to San Francisco from Cabo San Lucas, uh, and her friend, katie shoalove uh called a car for the two of them and when uh she approached the door after putting her luggage in the trunk the driver wouldn't open it for lillian wang until uh the white girl katie

shoalove uh came around and then he was was like, hey, you girls coming from China? And they were like, no, and said where they were coming from. And then the driver said he had rejected a ride request from someone with the name He or He, a common Chinese name. So it's just, it's the sort of thing that tech companies, the whole move fast and break things ethos, they're not prepared for reality to change in any way. Well, also Uber's not a real company.

They literally have written away all of their liability for damn near, I mean, up to rape. They're like, kidnapping like not our fault we just we just have them all on a nap yeah like raping kidnapping they're totally and and then they're like oh we can be racist about something okay let's do it like like because they don't have the accountability because it's just like a bunch of rogue people driving for their service so i don't even know how they would be able to fix that. Yeah.

No, I mean, and they rely on that. They're like, we are just a technology platform. We are not a ride. We're not a card app because that's how they maintain the legal status. But that's simply not true. Right. It really should not be absolved from the kind of guilt right yeah but they have all this money that they then use to lobby that's what they're investing most of their money in these days uh so the way that everything starts in silicon valley

is just so disgusting and anti-american like it's they literally get a bunch of fucking money from a lot of rich people drive down the price in the market so that everyone else is starved out, and then take it over. And while they're doing it, absolutely demolish American cities. Yeah, and businesses. And all the cab drivers, all that. Even though I lived in New York, so I had no sympathy in my heart for them. Sorry, y'all should have opened the door for a black girl. You shouldn't have hit me with your fucking cab.

You got hit by a cab? Hell yeah, I got hit by a cab. I got hit by several cabs. Jesus. Oh my God. What you mean hit by a cab? You were fucking around. Bitch, I was almost, I was a pothole basically.

I got hit by so many cabs. You're recognized by the city as a pothole. I worked as an orange cone. That was my part-time job. It would be like telling your grandkids one day, I worked as a traffic cone in New York City. That is some great grizzled old man shit. All right, we are going to take a quick break.

We'll be right back. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County rebels with the image of the biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print.

A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I just take all the other stuff out of it. Segregation academies. When civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that.

Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling.

It's a dance. It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Santos! Santos!

Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask

as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. I'm Dr. Laurie Santos, host of the Happiness Lab podcast. As the U.S. elections approach, it can feel like we're angrier and more divided than ever. But in a new, hopeful season of my podcast, I'll share what the science really shows. That we're surprisingly more united than most people think. We all know something is wrong in our culture, in our politics, and that we need to do better and that we can do better. With the help of Stanford psychologist Jamil Zaki.

It's really tragic. If cynicism were a pill, it'd be a poison. We'll see that our fellow humans, even those we disagree with, are more generous than we assume. My assumption, my feeling, my hunch is that a lot of us are actually looking for a way to disagree and still be in relationships with each other. All that on the Happiness Lab. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season. That's right.

The challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season, y'all. And we are coming along for the ride. Woohoo! That would be me, Devin Simone. And then there's me, Davon Rogers. And we're here to take you behind the scenes of... Drumroll, please. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Challenge 40 Battle of the Eras.

Yes. Each week, cast members will be joining us to spill all of the tea on the relentless challenges, heartbreaking eliminations, and of course, all the juicy drama. And let's not forget about the hookups. Anyway, regardless of what era you're rooting for at home, eliminations and of course all the juicy drama and let's not forget about the hookups anyway regardless of what era you're rooting for at home everyone is welcome here on mtv's official challenge podcast so join us every week as we break down episodes of the challenge 40 battle of the eras listen to mtv's official challenge podcast on the iheart radio app apple podcast or

wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And so real quick update on the Weinstein trial. So the prosecution rested towards the end of last week. And now people are saying more and more that it's's looking like he may get off which is shocking no fucking kidding imagine that yeah no i am shocked i thought they was gonna cosby him that's not right i it could be but people like legal experts are basically saying that you know some of the behavior that's been highlighted, which victim experts on

victims of sexual assault say isn't at all surprising coming from a sexual assault victim, like the fact that they continued to have friendly interactions with him, like that's normal and something that happens with victims of sexual assault. Yeah, it's a cycle.

Yeah, it's a cycle. It's like victims of sexual assault yeah it's a cycle yeah it's a cycle it's like you know victims of sexual assault are working through like all sorts of emotional trauma and especially with how it happens yeah not to speak too candidly but like i've had instances with people that were you know violations of consent and some of them i still know and they talk to me and sometimes i talk back like right and yeah It's not as black and white as people think, especially in a society where you, like if this man is as powerful as he was, like you're not going to be,

like you could ruin your whole career. There's so much shit that I don't talk about as an actress that's happened that is not okay to me because I don't want to fuck up my career. I mean, it's like the work thing is such a, like it adds a whole other level of like, I don't know, like I've expressed to people like, hey, like you, like, don't treat me like that, but then have had

to like continue to work with them. And it's like, you can't, in some situations you're like, what am I supposed to, like, I can't just change jobs because this fucking asshole is here. Right. And none of this shit is logical. Like, I hate the people who try to logically explain sexual assault and victims. jobs because this fucking asshole is here like right and none of this shit is logical like i hate the people who try to logically explain sexual assault and victims like well why didn't she run away and why didn't she like you know shoot him like what are you talking about women

don't have we have rights but stop acting like we have the same rights as men like we are still right but so legal experts are saying that it's usually like this sort of case is usually not tried. And like people were like legal experts were like, well, I can't believe they're trying it because this is such a risky case to make to a jury of your own peers. And Weinstein's lawyer is literally like the new worst person in the world. Donna Ratuno. Donna Tuna. Yeah. I hate when they do that.

When they're like, let me find a woman who's willing to shell out her morals completely. And then be like, see, women are bad. And also like a woman has those innate, like, she's still a woman. So she's probably over there doing psychological warfare. I would have run away. Tearing these women apart. Literally. She said somebody in an interview with the Daily, some podcast, Donna Rotono was asked, have you ever been sexually assaulted?

And she replied, I have not because I would never put myself in that position. Oh, she lied. I've always made choices from college age on where I never drank too much, never went, like just completely victim blaming. Oh my God.

She's like literally trolling everybody. Bitch, never put yourself in that situation so you never went outside? Bitch, what are you talking about? Right, it's like you would have to be a complete shut in you don't even have to leave your house

you can be sober you can be a child like what are you talking about she needs her ass beat but you know what people like that they always get sick from stress

cause that evil it don't go well that stuff like it eats you a lot like I mean only the lawyers unless you're like Trump or OJ

then you live forever so right or our next the subject of our next story, Kirk Douglas. Kirk Douglas, not Kurt Russell, like I keep saying by mistake. But he lived to age 103. And something that I didn't know about him, like I just always saw him treated as like this golden age icon. But he was, you know, a rapist.

He was. Yeah. So when Kirk Douglas, not Kurt Russell. Yes. When Kirk Douglas died, first of all, he was 103. And I just get like personally annoyed when people are like, oh, it's so sad. I'm like, he's 103. He was 103.

Okay. He was 103. I'm fine. But then on top of that, Natalie Wood started trending. And I wasn't aware he's 103. He was 103. Okay. He was 103. I'm fine. But then on top of that, Natalie Wood started trending. And I wasn't aware of this either, but there's pretty like credible accounts that she was raped by Kirk Douglas when she was 16. It first came out in 2012. It was given by an anonymous person who many have speculated to be robert downey jr but it happened at the chateau i don't know um but but later natalie wood's sister confirmed

that this was an account that she'd heard from her sister before and then because of the time it happened in which i believe would have been the early or the late 50s or early 60s oh yeah she wasn't about to get no fairness yeah they were like don't say anything he's like one of the most famous actors in the world right now and you'll ruin your own career so if you want to keep this that system alive and well then like that that's the argument that Weinstein's lawyer is basically making that like you want to perpetuate a system where like this is just the accepted way of doing things. Right.

I mean, you want to recreate a system where it's like, don't say anything. When cases like this get buried and people like Harvey Weinstein win, it's just indicating to people, don't say anything, because otherwise you're just going to re-traumatize yourself and never get justice anyways. It's just infuriating.

And also I think people don't understand that it's not just about justice. It's also about safety and awareness. Because I had a friend who was assaulted by someone who was this very popular athlete. He was really handsome. He was a nursing student. Seemed like the all stand-up guy. And the only reason I didn't get assaulted by the same man was because I knew what he did to her. And he tried to take me home one night when I was drunk and wasn't feeling well.

And I did it. My friends were like, you can't go with him. Like they were like all of us were like, no, no, no, we're fine. Right. I mean, but what would happen if we didn't know? If you didn't have that protection. Yeah, exactly. So it's just silencing people just leaves everyone dangerous because people like that don't just do it once.

Look how many people Harvey Weinstein has accusing him of assault. And the same thing is like when he wins, it just indicates to people who do that already. You will get away with it. Yeah. So, yeah. And also the racial implications. Here's the difference, though, I will say is In the Cosby case, there was drugs involved. Right.

So I think that that might be something that is separating these two as far as like... In people's minds? Or like... I think like in court... Because I thought that both of these would be open and shut cases. You would hope. Yeah. But in Bill Cosby's case, I like the drugging also comes into play whereas

like that's like a separate crime or something yeah yeah and maybe it feels more substantial to people in court i also don't know harvey weinstein was doing which i don't understand i'd be curious to know how many victims testified at his trial versus Weinstein? Because I think very few victims actually ended up testifying at the Weinstein trial. Really? Yeah. I think that there was like a lot of coverage with that podcast that we've heard, The Daily. Right. Whatever it is.

Dilly, I think. The Dilly. I think it's about the, yeah, yeah. The Dilly. Yeah. But they're like talking about finding the right victim to testify and i guess that the powers that be decided that a very few right victims were going to be able to testify at this but i i don't i i don't remember i think that may possibly more women testified and also it was the

second time with cosby right the first time it was a hung jury like they didn't get him until the second time right and it took a little while and they and it was a slow build where like the story came out and then like over the course of a decade more and more victims came forward and they were able to like kind of build a community of support and then like finally they were able to like bring it forward whereas this yeah I think it's, that's I think what legal experts were like, this is, they're really putting it in, like this is a difficult case to build. Not that it's like anything,

but the guiltiest piece of shit in the world. But just like from a legal perspective, unlike how jury trials work, like they're saying that this is not as open and shut as it would seem to those of us who have you know read all the articles that have come out where it's just like oh yeah it was literally every woman that he like interacted with right and he was ruining their careers if they didn't you know do what he asked or or not even asked all the time he assaulted someone it's just ugh. It's so bad.

It's bad. I mean, and also, to your point, Lacey, it's absolutely like Harvey Weinstein being white is only a boon for him in this case. And in any rape case. White and in a walker.

I'm like, what the fuck did this walker come from, bro? Hobbling it. The only time you're allowed to do that is when you're Robert Durst and then it's Robert Durst with the neck brace coming in and he's like, ow, my neck. He's like, what happened to your neck? He's like, I don't know. At that point, that was almost like he was doing material.

He was satirizing murder. Right. Yeah, that was the work of satire. Yeah. Right. You're only supposed to do that if you're on an episode of Martin and you get in a car crash. Right. And then you come in with your walker and your neck brace.

Now you're a fucking rapist. Like, why are you coming in with a walker? Like, I couldn't rape those women. I couldn't get to them fast enough. You're like, what are you talking about? Just to appeal to the unconscious biases. Right. Of like, feeble old men.

Like, he couldn't have. Just back to Robert Durst's neck brace for a second. People did like close-up shots of that and it wasn't even fully fastened. Yeah, because then it gets all sweaty. Yeah, he's like, no, no, no. It's like a big breathability. Man, I can't quit him.

I know. All right. And let's go out on the story of heidi klum uh because she is telling page six that she uh seemed she received some backlash after seeming to dismiss uh gabrielle union's claim that she uh suffered under a toxic work environment uh America's Got Talent. Heidi Klum was like, my experience was fine. Can I read what she said? Yeah, please, please, please. Where's she from?

That's a good question, maybe South Africa? South Africa, okay. I can only do a black South African accent. No, she's German. I've only do a black South African accent. Heidi Klum, no, she's German. Oh. I've only had the missing. You're out. No, I can't do Heidi Klum's accent. But she's like, I've only had an amazing experience redacted on the show.

I can't speak for Gabrielle. I didn't experience the same thing. To me, everyone treats you with the utmost respect. Okay, that's her quote, right? Okay. Then Heidi Klum says, a lot of people got mad at me. I was called, for example, a white woman. She added, I think it's important for everyone to speak their truth.

And I think that when there's a story, it should be told. I had a different story. Heidi, you have black children. Heidi, you have black kids. Holy shit. Do you think they navigate the world the same way as you, a tall, beautiful, skin-t, blonde, white woman? You are fucking crazy.

Right, that is. You are crazy, sis. Like, what? That was also some masterful headline work as well. Because the page, I mean, this is beside the point, but page six, they're masterful headline writers because the headline, what is the, hold on, it's opening on my computer.

The headline is, Heidi Klum says she was called a white woman for defending AGT. Which is like, I guess technically true. Yeah. It's a hilarious headline. And I don't know why Heidi Klum thought that this was going to roll in her favor. Because we are dragging her all the way through Beyonce's internet.

Ma'am. Yes, you are a white woman. That's not an insult. Like, it's not an insult to become white. It's just, it's not self-evidently, but it is somebody bringing a relevant piece of information that your story is influenced by the fact that you are white. Right, which she's saying out loud,

but then what she says following it completely contradicts that she's acknowledging, I don't get it. It's honestly one of those of like, she just says she don't get it. She's like, look, I don't get it. It's honestly one of those of like, she just says she don't get it. She's like, look, I don't get it. I'm a rich white woman in America. And I experience everything the same as anybody, especially Gabrielle Union.

Miss, what the fuck are you talking about? It just scares me that she's this dumb about society because she has black kids. Right. She has black children. And that is so terrifying. I hope that, I mean, yeah. Well, it's okay because one day she's going to realize that she's a white lady because somebody is going to disrespect the fuck out of her kids.

You can be as rich as you want to be. But when you're black, the chickens always come to roost. It doesn't matter how much money you have. Someone will remind you that you are black. And I don't hope that for her kids but i know that's the reality because i live it and it's sad that they don't have someone who's like equipping them with the tools because now it's clear that she's raising her children as if they are not black at all right she got offended doesn't like all white that's on the census sis so what did you do when

you took a standardized test it was like like, check white? Oh, no. I wonder if she's one of the... That's really mean that you would make me say that. I don't see color. It's on your driver's license. It's like, what's on your driver's license? Right. Model?

What does me being white have to do with how I experienced this racist place? Right. Well, I don't... Heidi. Heidi. Heidi. Her name is Heidi. Yeah, you are the whitest white woman

she's literally a German American tall white hot blonde supermodel like it's just like you couldn't be less qualified to comment like no one is less qualified to comment you know actually in the racist manifestos you are the ideal white

right you are at the top of the whites and then she's like don't say that i do wonder if she will replace taylor swift now as like the ultimate uh arian sort of icon i did watch the taylor swift documentary so this is being watched by people who i keep hearing people being like really you? You really start to like Taylor Swift. It's good propaganda. Yes. It's good.

I mean, I feel like that's what Netflix, like how celebrities use Netflix is to create a documentary or a miniseries as propaganda of like, everything you've heard about me, think again. I'm awesome. Except for Lady Gaga's. I was like, sis, you are unhinged. Really? I respected Lady Gaga's because I'm like, oh, she does not come up very well in this. I think that she is. Wait, how does she come up? I haven't seen it.

Okay, so she has meetings with her managers topless. Oh, really? She comes up really weird. Which, like, it feels like, and I've heard this from people who know Lady Gaga, like, she's probably just a regular white woman who's lived, like, a pretty decent life. And because nothing really bad has happened to Steph, Steph is out here just trying to make herself as interesting as possible so she can get this art out. So she's having meetings with her titties out. She's playing a song called Joanne about her dead aunt that she never met to her grandma to try to make her cry on camera.

That is amazing. It's like it's all big swings. All huge swings with stars. That's like my favorite. I need to watch that now. Watch it. It's fun. The idea of like.

Watch it. Because's fun. The idea of like, I don't know. Watch it. Because she really is like, and it's funny because her dad starts to cry because it's his sister who's dead. Right. And Lady Gaga be crying about her dead aunt that she never met the whole show. And you're like, who did never met her? Who better to make art about this person who I've never met than me? And her grandma's like, girl, stop.

Like her grandma doesn't like go into it. She listens to the song. She's like, this is cool grandma doesn't like go into it like she listens to the song she's like this is cool but like she's like I'm not her grandma stays at arm's length it does not Gaga does not get

what she wants out of that shot at all but they're like it's the only one we have we gotta keep it I used to fall for those like celebrity propaganda documentaries

I remember when the Katy Perry one came out and I'm like wow her marriage didn't Russell Brand was so mean like I mean which I'm sure he her marriage didn't Russell Brand was so mean to her I mean which I'm sure he was but that was

that was like the first documentary of that type I feel like I saw but now it's like Taylor Swift you waited too long I would have bought this seven years ago right but too long for you but I feel like people who are less I don't know

I feel like she's just getting her fans. I don't think anybody else is watching that and being like, there's quotes in it where she's like, my moral, wait, I have to find the direct quote. Because it was so insane. And I texted it to someone because I was like, what the hell? I won't put anyone on blast. I know somebody who I consider very smart who totally fell for it

put him on blast I can't it wasn't like fully it was not Miles it was Miles I can't believe Miles cried that's where he is he was so affected by

he had to stay home today she says this quote my entire moral code is the need to be perceived as good. That is so revealing. Yeah. Wait, does she know that she said that? And it's in a documentary? Yeah.

That's not a thing that you would want. I guess they show kind of like both sides of like her feelings about this. And so it becomes less of a polarizing quote in context. But the fact that she said it, I'm like, sis, because she's saying like- That's so interesting because that seems like the most deeply true thing about her. It is. Yeah. And she's saying, the documentary though tries to spin it like, well, she belongs to the

public and everything that she does is perceived one way or another. So at some point she stops being herself and has to be the entity that is Taylor Swift. And that's why she cares about how she's behaving because she doesn't want the backlash. She wants to be a good influence. So that's kind of how they like try to spin it is what I've read. However, the quote itself, I was like, oh, the quote itself is that you just gave us your inner mission statement. Wow. intermission statements.

Wow. The one thing about the documentary that I'm like, I get, like, the way that they frame it is very intentional to be like, well, she didn't advocate for anything good for 15 years because the Dixie Chicks got cancelled. That's the framework for it. Like, the Dixie Chicks said something mean about

George Bush, they're country stars, and they were blonde also. The Dixie Chicks said something about... Yeah, but the Dixie Chicks said something about George Bush. Except for... They're country stars and they were blonde also. The Dixie Chicks said something about... What about Kacey Musgraves? Yeah, but the Dixie Chicks said something about George Bush. They didn't allow white supremacists

to use them as their mascot. Exactly. I think you can... I think that most country singers or country listeners aren't going to be like, oh, Taylor Swift, you're renouncing the KKK.

We ain't listening to you no more they can't if you go to a cvs you're listening to taylor swift you don't you have no choice but to listen to taylor i do most of my taylor swift listening that's right i literally wouldn't know who halsey was if i didn't go to cvs everything same i like now i was like who is this person and then they're like oh it's the cvs then they're like, oh, it's the CVS music. They're like, can I help you find something? You're like waving down a CVS employee. Yeah, who is this?

I get that country music is maybe a difficult format to be progressive, but then it's like, Kacey Musgraves is right here. But also, we're not asking you to be progressive. We really asked you for the bare minimum. The supremacy movement was like this is our queen and he was like yeah she took the money saying no she was like i want everybody's money she took the money uh well guys this is why you guys are the best guests in the world. This is why? This is why. The Taylor Swift thing wasn't even on the doc and we got into it

and that's probably the most zeitgeisty thing happening right now. Lacey, where can people find you? Follow you. Yes, guys, you can find me. Listen to my podcast if you love scams and comedy. It is a comedy podcast. ScamGoddessPod at gmail.com

is where you can email your scams. I don't know why I always say the email scam goddess pod on Instagram and on Twitter and then guys you can follow me if you want to see

my own personal shenanigans at D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I-D Valacey on all platforms and is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying

yes there is now I'm gonna give you guys some context cause this is like a deep cut for the blacks. Thank you. So Peter Gunz is a rapper. I know Peter Gunz.

Peter Gunz has like 50-11 babies. He's had women pregnant at the same time. He's just like a little man-ho. and it just came out from the source magazine that Peter Gunz makes history by becoming the first black host

of cheaters and Raymal Sutton retweeted if you do what you love you'll never have to work a day in your life oh that's great

I was like yes Raymal you that is so funny so good at cheating hey you know people have special skills this is cheating

yeah that's so funny I love it Jamie yeah where can people find you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying

you can find me on Twitter at Jamie Loftus Help on Instagram at Jamie Christ Superstar. This comes out Monday. I'll be in New York tonight at Joe's Pub doing Boss Who Missed Girl, and there's maybe a couple of tickets left.

And then Bechtel Cast is in Boston on the 13th. We're covering Bridesmaids at the Hideout. And then I'm headlining a show in Denverver on the 22nd that is a bernie fundraiser and the tweet i'm gonna pick oh because i didn't get to bring this up earlier it's from the pasadena playhouse because alfred molina is currently uh starring in a play at the pasadena playhouse which if you haven't been, it's a state theater. You can get tickets for 20 bucks. It's very affordable.

And the play is the saddest shit I've ever seen in my entire life. So I would like to recognize their tweet promoting that show, which is called The Father. And Alfred Molina plays a man that has dementia. He wears pajamas the whole time. 500 stars from me. you gonna go see it i saw i saw it was their opening night oh my god and i'm gonna go again next month is it great is

it the saddest shit you've ever seen it was the saddest shit i've ever seen um and i snuck my own wine in so 10 out of 10 experience it was incredible so proud of you it was great i'm like i'm not gonna pay theater wine prices no No. Right. As you should not. I've got a canvas bag in there. Tweet I've been enjoying. First of all, thanks to everybody for all your kind tweets in response to my doggy, Finny, passing away. Thanks to producer Anna Hosnier for putting that video together.

Some of his greatest hits at the office. And some tweets I've been enjoying. At Molly Goodfellow tweeted, What if Greta Thunberg is a kind of Ferris Bueller situation where she just wanted one day off school and it spiraled out of control? And then Brent at Merman5 tweeted, guy in his 30s still wearing flat bill hat. So basically like a vibe check.

Doctor explaining the blood work she wants him to get. Yes, but for cholesterol. A vibe check. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist we're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram we have a Facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our

footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song We Ride Out On Super Producer Anna Hosnier what's a song for us to ride out on hi um i'm going to recommend this song i've been listening to called jet fuel by mac miller uh it's a great song it's really chill um i heard it in an ice cream shop recently and it brought it back into

my personal zeitgeist and i was like oh oh yeah, Mac Miller was a great artist and so R.I.P. and listen to Jet Fuel by Mac Miller. I feel like I'm very late on that R.I.P., huh? Alright, well, enjoy here. It's been a while. Thank you for, I mean,

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