The Daily Zeitgeist - Blue Check Purge, Rasmussen Polls = Garbage 04.24.23

Episode Date: April 24, 2023

In episode 1469, Jack and guest co-host Pallavi Gunalan are joined by creator of The Red Dot Comics, Kim Winder, to discuss… Rasmussen Polls Are Nazi Trash, Michigan Republicans Still Want To Jail Unmarried Couples Living In Sin, Twitter’s Blue Check Purge Is A Real Sh*tshow, New Promising Parkinson’s Research Just Dropped and more! Rasmussen Polls Are Nazi Trash Scott Adams’s racist comments were spurred by a badly worded poll AP FACT CHECK: Trump cites questionable job approval rating Michigan Republicans Still Want To Jail Unmarried Couples Living In Sin Michigan Republicans Fight Lifting Ban on Unmarried Couples Living Together Florida lawmakers: Couples can move in without saying 'I do' Sorry, Sluts: It’s Still a Crime for Unmarried Couples to Live Together in Michigan SHACKIN’ UP & THE LEGAL EFFECTS OF COHABITATION IN MISSISSIPPI Loopy Laws: In Mississippi It’s A Crime For Unmarried Couples To Live Together If There Are “Circumstances Which Show Habitual Sexual Intercourse.” No Shacking Up: Yes, 'Living In Sin' Is Still A Crime Is Cohabitation Before Marriage Illegal in North Carolina? Twitter’s Blue Check Purge Is A Real Sh*tshow Elon Musk Is Paying for Stephen King’s Blue Checkmark to Try to Make It Cool Again Twitter begins removing blue checks from users who don’t pay Twitter’s blue check purge claims top political figures, risking imposters A Twitter Blue Account Is Spreading Dangerous Misinformation About the Sudan Conflict New Promising Parkinson’s Research Just Dropped LISTEN: Black & Decker by Downhill2k10See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 284, episode one of Dear Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it is Monday, April 24th, 2023. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Bumbled the Bag last night on this site just for power and hate of trans women. And now I'm so high in debt, my friends. And this place is gonna suck a long long time as cat turd yet again begins to

whine i'm not the man shit i can't even code oh no no no i build rockets man rockets man actually i don't build anything that is courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi-Main, the great and just an all-time night had by one Elon Musk. Just what a day last Thursday for that young man. Well, I'm thrilled to be joined in our second seat by a very special guest co-host, a very funny stand-up comedian, writer, actor, improviser, a biomedical engineer. It's one of our favorite guests, one of our favorite co-hosts, Pallavi Gunale!

Hey! Viking, are you down, down, down, down, down, down, down? Even if the news is falling down, you ought to know this is Paula V and I'm in the zone. Put on the pod. I want to see Jack run the show. So leave it behind because we have an hour to get away. So come on inside with me as we make a great escape

so Zygang don't worry you are my only you won't be lonely even if the news is falling down you'll be my only no need to worry baby are you gang gang gang gang gang

gang gang that's my first aka and I have B-I-U gang, gang, gang, gang, gang. Gang, gang. What up? That's my first AKA. Wow. And I have to say, I was pressured into doing it by this man. So, Jacquees Neal told me to say, what up, brown people? Did Jacquees told you to do it? Yeah. Yeah.

Well, it was wonderful. You nailed it. Thank you. Oh, I was practicing. I i was practicing i had to do pressure can be a good thing it can be i had to do jay sean wright our our british brown brother you know what i mean yeah i had to very very good very well done jakees one of the great aka performers what i think i've said this before i think jakees is one of my favorite singers he's not a professional singer i've only heard him sing aka is one of my favorite singers well he does he's a voice actor so he's got a great voice it's it's cheating you see they're basically singers that's right all right well palavi thank you so much for joining filling in for miles as he takes care of the

Geist Child, who I got to be on a meeting with recently. And oh my God. Like a little boss baby, boss baby situation. Yeah, he is the boss baby. He is going to take my place. He's going to take over the team. And I welcome it. I welcome my new Geist Child overlord.

Is he like Gen Alpha? What is that generation now? I don't know. I don't think we've even named them. Wow. They're going to name themselves. That's how aware they are. That's how self-aware they'll be. That's right. And then they get named

later by other people. Yeah. And they're just like, fuck off. Anyways, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the creator of Red Dot Comics. Go to Patreon right now support gain access to her tasteful impropriety please welcome kim winder aka uh dm me your plugs dm me your plugs interesting i i don't have any songs

i felt intimidated you guys went all out visual, that's okay. I felt intimidated. You guys went all out. Visual art. That's the first time I did that. You didn't have to say. I went with that. DM me your plugs. Because you've talked about butt plugs before on previous appearances. Is that what we're referring to when we say DM me your plugs?

Yeah, it's a fascination. One of my main characters is gary the butt plug but like every day i will get dm or a message like i saw this out in the wild and it's just like a street cone that looks like a butt plug don't like don't send me your toys send me like obscure plugs okay yeah yeah i just wanted to clarify for you who see like faces and buildings and they are like oh it's like a building that's smiling and they send it to each other but it's like that with but with butt plugs which exactly would make you smile more honestly i just love the thought like when people see like something that's plug shaped they think of me and i'm

honored yeah i'm always like texting people being like, does this, does this building look like my mom? Doesn't, doesn't seem like it's mad at me. Like, do you, does anybody else see that?

And they're like, no, leave me alone. My dog barked when you said, does this building look like my mom? So he disagrees. I just wanted to let you know. Is that okay?

Yeah. Yeah. Most people do. Well, Kim, we're going to get to know you a know. Is that? Okay. Yeah, yeah. Most people do. Well, Kim, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about Rasmussen poles. Rasmussen.

It is like a slithering ass name. It sounds evil. It sounds like Rasputin, kind of. Yeah, it's like Rasputin, but not as cool. It sounds like it could be, kind of. Yeah, it's like Rasputin, but not as cool. It sounds like it could be like a Mucinex type thing, but also like an evil house in Hogwarts. Anyways, their polls are Nazi trash, but they keep cropping up in the news. So we just wanted to kind of give people a history of Rasmussen polling and where

you've seen their work before. We're going to talk about Michigan Republicans still want to jail unmarried couples living together in sin. That's still a law that's on the books in a lot of places. We're just going to look at some of those. There's one in North Carolina that wants to jail or arrest unmarried man and woman who decide to lewdly and lasciviously associate bed and cohabitate together. That's my North Carolina accent, I guess. I do declare. I do declare. But you can just like smell the horrifying room that this was written in and like 1805 so back when they weren't called incels yeah exactly when they were called senator yeah founding fathers yes exactly we were much

fonder of them back then we'll talk about twitter's blue check purge which went well it seemed like it went well right i mean i lost mine and i feel free so yeah yeah oh i will we'll get your man on the street like perspective woman on the street perspective of what that was like there's some good news in parkinson's research we'll talk about all that plenty more but first kim we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? How to get crows to leave you gifts. What? I love crows. We have so many crows in our neighborhood, in our backyard.

We fed them for years, just like whatever leftover tortillas or bread we have. And they left me this small little little jewel from it had to be like a cheap necklace so but the crows don't know it's cheap the crows are like damn you're gonna leave that for her are you sure she's like into you like that this is like your parents getting you presents and you're like thanks guys so they left us that and then they they went way downhill then they came back and left me a stick and it's okay that's quality has dropped but that's a big deal to crows part of their home you know what i mean yeah i guess but like you guys that's a load that's a load-bearing stick yeah that stick goes on the

refrigerator like oh it's going to be replaced did the stick look like a plug though that's the question that we all yeah how well yeah well they fucked up then i know we have a big crow audience but like they need to let their crow friends know anything could be a, if you really think about it. Just the worst. Just the worst. The worst butt plug ever. You wouldn't even know. It's like, what is it? Like tricycles with training wheels? That's kind of the plug they left me. What are crow butts shaped like?

Maybe it works for their butts. You know what I mean? Cloacas? I feel like they just have the one hole for everything. Yeah. Maybe it's a perfect plug for their cloacas. Yeah. All cloacas are different.

Here you go, mother. Gently used. My dogs keep like, they look like they're about to bark at the crows on my street. And I'm like, no, we need them on our side. Do not anger the crows. They're our friends. They're smart. exactly so they left me those two gifts and then now that we like received them i want more but i don't know how to go about like some people were suggesting leaving coins on the little table that we put the

bread on or giving them kibble and water i'm just trying to look at more tricks so i can like get my horde of fake jewels and sticks and then yeah i have my army yeah murder your murder yeah my attempted murder you're like the queen of dragons but with crows i'll take it it would be the best animal i think to have have a group of that kind of did your bidding. Oh my god, yeah. I guess monkeys, but then crows. Monkeys are funny. Crows can be menacing.

Yeah, you don't want to... Insane people do not want to anger crows. They remember shit. They're very smart. Up to two years. That's what I read in my research like they'll hold a grudge for two years but then they also remember people's faces and it makes sense because i'll go on runs around my neighborhood and i i seriously have two or

three crows that follow me my entire run it's like guys i don't have bread on me right now that's so cool you're just running and there's like crows just like, I mean, you must be so safe on your ride. So intimidating. It makes sense why our neighbors don't talk to me. Just like crows following me down the street. I also like that they're better than Hollywood types. Like they remember faces. That's

really sweet. You know what I mean? They actually remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, sure. Yeah, we met at that thing. Right. So the ultimate goal is to just have just a storm of crows following you around, just like blotting out the sun everywhere you go.

Exactly. Shitting on cars I don't like, like a Tesla over there, a Tesla over there. Yeah. Nice. Just, you know. I love it. They will like sometimes just make make it rain like sticks and like we we have a murder that is has made our neighborhood their

home and like sometimes like one of our neighbors was like yeah i thought it was raining and it turned out like the crows were just like dropping sticks and shit on our house that that's like that's cool that's like when the u.s military just like goes and drops like packets of shit everywhere like we are your saviors yeah yeah i do wonder if it's like when a cat will bring you like a half-dead mouse and they like want to see if you'll finish it or like eat the mouse like they're terrifying it's like you know they want to see how much they can respect you like i want i wonder how how closely they're monitoring what you did with the stick they're like stick it in your butt do it do it for us they first they thought i was poor which is correct and then it's

like your house is shit. Here you go. There's a stick. Fix it. Maybe do something with this. I don't know. What is something that you think is overrated? Basil plants.

The kind that you buy in the grocery store. Yeah. Those are so overrated. And I hate buying them because then I feel obligated to keep it alive when i just want to kill it anyways oh my god well i use basil a lot in my cooking but then like they give you the little soil and then you have the stems and it's sad but it just feels so wasteful because nine times out of ten it dies almost immediately right right yeah i've never i don't think i've ever bought one of the ones that's in soil it seems like too much of a commitment for it seems like

like a real step up from you know i'm i'm spice shopping and they're like here how about a lifelong commitment to uh yeah that's how i feel but i can't just find them in bunches anymore not like thyme or rosemary it it has to all be in the soil maybe it's the stores that i'm by but i can't find just already massacred plants for my benefit that's what you need from the crows is get them to train them to bring you basil yeah but see also like how long does it take for like a leaf to grow because if you like use all your basil leaves off your plant and then the next day you're like well i have to wait like another three months or something like what do you mean this basil plant aren't on the same schedule yeah it seems like exactly i have like three right now in

my kitchen just like sitting in cups so i'm hopefully like rotating between all three so it can grow. And then I torture it by pulling off its appendages and then I do it to the other one. With great glee. Yeah, with very great glee. I do love the idea. And I think all grocery outlets should start adopting this terminology that all produce besides the basil plants are pre-massacred like this is our pre-massacred plant section of the grocery store that's fun outside the dead don't go to the meat section yeah and do they let you come into the

grocery store with the crows or do they make the crows wait outside in the parking lot? They wait outside for me, but they help me carry the bags to the car. Like they're very helpful. Yeah. Bring me the pre-massacre bananas. Yeah, that rules. What is something you think is underrated? Kitsch.

I think like aesthetics is such a big thing nowadays everyone wants like a mood or a vibe where i kind of miss just going in and seeing random cute quirky things and it doesn't necessarily have to fit a whole idea okay i love that i feel like people's homes are so like lacking in vibrancy like they're so like gray and dull and i feel like it's not good for like children's development with like their color and like the shapes and things that they need to you know be around because everybody's like oh we're gonna be minimalist and fucking dull and it's like that it doesn't feel lived in like any of these homes you know what i mean yeah totally there's actually a phrase i heard i want to say it was on tiktok

or reddit but millennial gray yeah yeah that's a thing millennial gray that's ours that's like everything looks like the inside of kim and kanye's yes yeah it's because we like that's the only thing we feel like we can control i guess well it's a calm neutral environment where it's because we like, that's the only thing we feel like we can control, I guess. Well, it's a calm, neutral environment where it's like, it's so under stimulating. I want, I want something fun and cute. It doesn't have to be everywhere. But like, I think people are more afraid to go kitschy because they don't want to be deemed odd, know i think also like it's bad for sustainability for people to like buy all these like specific things that fit one style rather than like reusing stuff or like you know buying things that just like are functional and not worrying about the aesthetic as

much you know yeah i so i i have to confess i'm recording this on my wife's computer because my computer just stopped working on turning on this morning i misheard i i don't think i have the recording setup right and i misheard what you said as hitch the will smith film i also heard that too i thought i was just waiting to see how you were gonna bring this back around to the will smith film hitch until you said kitschy and now i'm now i now i got you hitch is kind of kitsch it is hitch is kitsch and anytime you have paul blart in a movie that's a little bit kitsch right yeah how to how to get paul blart laid is basically the log line what if paul blart wanted to have sex like what if what would that be like yeah there's there is a whole movement in child rearing that i think

goes back a long time i don't think it's super recent but there's like a school i think it's called the waldorf school but i know there is a waldorf school i'm not sure this is the one but it's like you don't like you can't have toys that have colors like your children i don't have to play with toys i think i think i remember that like they have like very minimalist toys that's like so bad for children's development like that is there's a reason that thing like places and and play things are all for kids are all like all different colors and shapes. And, you know, like it's because they're very tactile and visual and they develop in a certain way. Like their brains are like trying to figure stuff out right now.

Yeah. And I think there there's something about like when you watch some of the YouTube videos that have just an impot like a hundred billion views and it's like just cartoons that people put their children in front of and like developmental like child development experts are like this is bad because it's just like just cramming as many noises and sounds and things into children's you know sensory receptors as they possibly can get in there like i think there's something there but to be like and therefore you don't get to see get to see colors it seems like a weird like overstep of the whole thing and the parents who go there oh man they they think you're they're better than you isn't the waldart that reminds me of like the arrested development school where children should neither be seen nor heard.

Yeah, right. Yeah. But I love some kitsch. Do you do the flea markets? I haven't been to the big flea market. I think it's Long Beach or south of LA. I know there's a big one i haven't been to that but i do go to a lot of consignment stores and thrift stores thrift stores was the word i

was looking for and i came up with flea market i'm old my computer stopped working today you know it's monday you're having a millennial gray monday what you're having. That's right. That's what I'll call it to make myself sound young. It's just the millennial gray of my aging brain. My favorite place to shop is on the sidewalks where everybody throws out their furniture. Yeah. Anything that doesn't have carpeting or soft stuff that could have bed bugs. I'm like, I probably need another lamp, you know? Yeah, yeah.

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And Rasmussen. Dun, dun, dun. Dun, dun, dun. So Breitbart is reporting that one in three Americans strongly support the transphobic Bud Light boycott. This is based on it. You might if you pay attention to polls, you might be confused because, you know, obviously there's a lot of transphobia in the country, but that number is super high. And, you know, there was also a recent poll that found that two thirds of Americans are against laws that would limit transgender rights, which would mean that there are millions of people who want to protect trans rights, but also support Kid Rock tearfully pumping shotgun rounds into a case of beer out of sheer impotent bigotry.

It seems like it strains credulity a little bit that both of these polls can be correct. So I feel like the Rasmussen poll, you said it was all Breitbarty and Nazi like, right? So they probably are only polling people they think are people which are white people like they probably are not like cis white, you know. I know when they first kicked off, the way they worked was by just doing landline robo-polling. So that is a very specific demographic of old people who pick up their landline. I don't know anyone under 45 that picks up their phone if they don't know the number. Yeah, that was actually during the Trump administration that they were still using landline polling.

So pretty, pretty specific demographic. And like there was like a dumb, weird part of me that always wanted to pay attention to Trump's approval rating to just like be hope that like, ah, the country's finally figured it out. He's he's an idiot. ah, the country's finally figured it out. He's an idiot. But the Rasmussen polling was always, it was like 10 points higher than everyone else. Like it'd be like, nope,

he's the most popular president ever, it turns out. But they use manipulative techniques in order to serve up right-wing friendly poll results. One example of this is when Scott Adams had his racist rant that claimed that Black people of all types are a hate group. He cited a Rasmussen poll as evidence. And the polling question surveyed people and asked them if they agreed or disagreed with the statement, it's okay to be white, which is like a long-term nazi like for the past 20 years like white supremacists have been using that as like a thing to be like oh you don't think it's okay to be what like they're like they're like what is a woman thing like they

stick to like three arguments they're like don't like you there are only two pronouns my pronouns are kick your ass or whatever yeah like what is a woman and now they're making my child cry because it's not okay to be white yeah yeah so they this has been a loaded phrase it's okay to be white is a loaded phrase that's been used for decades by white supremacists to provoke liberals into condemning the statement and then be like what it's like it's like being the equivalent of being like why is there no white entertainment television if there's a you know like that's gonna be the theme of the next dilbert is yeah like w-e-t yeah it's like why you know why can't i scream white lives matter at someone who says black lives matter what what's wrong with it's like you're that everyone who is doing that

who like they're already two levels deep in a conversation at least two levels deep in like a conversation where they're the racist so yeah your false ignorance does not you know preclude you from like not understanding racism like also i just want to say uh kid rock being mad at bud light his like really like that wesley snipes uh meme where he's like shooting someone he loves yeah i am my brother's yeah from Didn't Kid Rock grow up really fucking wealthy? His parents are millionaires, right? Yeah, with a mansion. Please, he's been cosplaying

this whole time. He does not give a shit about Bud Light, dude. The polling company, it wasn't an evil name that they came up with. It was started by someone named Scott Rasmussen, who oddly enough invented ESn with his dad what and yeah sold it off a few few years later uh he's an idiot so he like barely made

money off of it or maybe he was somebody just you know stole the idea from him but like he invented it with his dad got getty oil to invest but he's the genius who came up with the name for espn which is entertainment sports programming network that's what espn stands for just one of the most word salad like combinations of words entertainment sports programming network is like i feel like they pulled that from a they're playing darts at a white yeah like poetry magnet like grab bag but it's always had he's uh white supremacist you know right wing piece of shit and so it's just always had this lean when he started his robocall polling business after they sold ESPN, he was immediately... What a downfall.

Yeah, he's immediately like... I don't know, ESPN to robocalling. Right. It's like he wanted to start out as serious as possible in sports, realized that's not good enough. I'm just going to pivot. Yeah, Yeah. But like Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly were such fans of his that he like his website would always crash in the early days because they would mention him. And then suddenly all the all the white supremacists would come running. So and then his website was used by the Bush reelection campaign in 2004.

reelection campaign in 2004 and i don't know that he he was the poll that people would point to during the trump administration to be like this is he he's killing it folks folks the guy's winning he's the most popular president but basically they ask questions which guarantee a result that will be favorable to the conservative media. So it just, when you see, and like the LA times and places like that still put, like still treat this as a legitimate polling. People have no idea. Like people are not like literate when it comes to polls or like where like

the data from polls comes from or what it means in terms of like predictability and statistics like they don't understand that like this is a percentage this is not like predictive this is not even like necessarily like reflective it's really dependent on the questions you're asking the demographic you're polling how you're doing it like they i don't know i feel like it's crazy that it is such a large industry given how misinterpreted the results can be and also like when you start with asking these questions and start with a white supremacist you're not going to get anywhere yeah and they even let them like do

the like draw the conclusions like they yeah the rasmussen website proclaimed a majority of americans don't buy into the woke narrative and most voters reject anti-white beliefs. And their rationale for that was a poll that found that 79 percent of people agreed with the statement black people can be racist, too. So they were like, and that from that we can draw all of these other conclusions. these other conclusions i think that like what you were saying about people not understanding polls 30 years ago i feel the news was much more trustworthy and they're playing on people being naive and thinking that it's still a fair playing ground like that they're really trying to get every corner of the community when really like there are these very small nefarious things that of course they're going to try to hide as much as possible like i had like no idea the espn

thing they're connected that that's so weird yeah i mean i think he he just was involved with the very very early stages in like the 1980s. Yeah, I don't know. It's just so... It's clearly trash. It's obviously no surprise that Breitbart would use their findings as headline fodder. But Rasmussen polls are still cited by Time Magazine and LA Times and NBC. So it's just... You really have to...

Do you think they're getting paid like why would you give them oxygen still there's yeah there's other polls there's no oh you mean do you think like the main news like la times and stuff like why would they still use them when they because it gets clicks it draws yeah i think it is for profit Yeah. I've never looked at Breitbart as an actual standalone website. In my mind, it's just a Nazi Tumblr. Right. That's how I think of it. Yeah.

Well, speaking of Nazis and the right wing in America, this is just a fun little check-in with where their values are at. Michigan is repealing a 1931 law, which states that unmarried couples living together is a crime punishable by a $1,000 fine and as much as one year imprisonment. And Republicans are opposing it. I disagree. I think this law should stay on the books. Okay. I think people are living in sin. I think we should go back to a time when just two female friends who were besties lived together for their decades of friendship and that alone. And they were just roommates.

They were just roommates. That's what I'm saying. There should be none of this man and women living together in sin. It should just be a man living with other fanciful men and women living with their best friends. The only thing that should be in your pants is the word of God. Thank you. Amen. Oh, my God. You guys are finally speaking my language. But yeah, literally half of the state's senator senators voted against the bill and it's just like the it's an impossible so this bill is still on the books and like mississippi and a

couple other like so north carolina florida even repealed it back in 2016 but like mississippi just got rid of slavery like last year yeah yeah so like they're still catching up you know yeah but when florida repealed it they weren't like obviously this is backwards and not in line with how we live today they were just like it's impossible to enforce which is funny to me that they're like i I mean, we've tried, we go and interview roommates to make sure they're not fucking each other. Is it, it's all about just like, you know,

men in their fifties and sixties wanting to talk, like find out how, like, like just imagine the lives of single people. Can these people just fucking watch porn instead of like inspecting genitals and trying to see if their neighbors are fucking like just watch porn just engage with sex work if you want to in a consensual way like it's okay you don't have to be this horned up in the legislature you know what i mean yeah they just don't have both though they want both that's true yeah the i there is so north carolina they still have a

law called living in sin the living in sin statute which dates back to 1805 making it a class two misdemeanor for a unmarried man and woman to lewdly and lasciviously associate bed and cohabitate together and i think uh it's lewd and lascivious when they do couples yoga you know what i mean like that to me is a lascivious association okay yeah but they can fuck i don't mind that but i think it's lewd when men keep the toilet seat up like come on oh lascivious but just the sexual repression and like the like gross old man horniness that you can just like smell wafting off that sentence is so it just that i needed to read that sentence to like have a better understanding of like why these laws still exist and it's like so people like ron desantis can ask people questions about who's fucking who and then do whatever weird self-flagellation he

does in his gym or whatever eat more pudding yeah i lie awake at night just like wondering what the world would be like if people just weren't fucking weird you know what i mean like if you were just if all of this energy could be put to like true hoverboards then like we would have so much more fun we would be living like the jetsons by now literally yeah but instead there's just like guys with their like comb overs pasted to their head with sweat in Mississippi. Just being like, yeah, but how do we know they're not fucking? We got to ask. There's got to be a smell test, right? They got to punish them for doggy style.

I think unannounced drop-ins is the answer here, don't we think? Anybody else? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a room full of spittoons and chewed on cigar butts. Anyways, so congratulations. That sounds like what the crows are going to bring you next, Kim. Yeah. Chewed on cigar butts.

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sesame street sad yeah elmo was like elmo will elmo will miss you, little blue checkmark. But don't worry, everybody. Elmo is still Elmo. And then Big Bird came in and was like, do you need help finding it, Elmo? Do you remember where you last had it? Which is like a step too dumb, Big Bird. Elmo knows that that was like, we know we're on the computer, Big Bird. Big Bird needs to step it back. Big Bird's a big bird this is big bird's a big bird what are you expecting you know what i mean i think you know what i have a family member who is just incredibly tall for his age and every everybody's always like assuming that he's in middle school when

he's actually in like fourth grade or third grade isn't it it's mine i'm not saying i'm not naming names but so maybe that's what i'm doing with big bird i'm like big bird i think i always associated big bird as like being in charge and like old and big bird actually is supposed to have the mind of like a five-year-old this is why like tall people are ceos and presidents because of people like jack okay this is why el why Elon Musk is in charge and taking away those checkmarks in the first place. Okay. Big Bird's the one that has the imaginary friend.

Like he's seeing, he's seeing things and talking. Yeah. That's a good point. He might actually be smarter than we think now that I think about it. He's just tripping. If he's got like hallucinations and he's experimenting with shrooms, you know?

Yeah. And Snuffy, great character that he dreamed of. like hallucinations and he's experimenting with shrooms you know yeah yeah and snuffy great character that he dreamed of snuffleupagus was my favorite character because i used to i still tap dance occasionally but i tap dance since i was three and savion glover would teach snuffleupagus how to tap dance and this is why sesame street is so important for me exactly side note yeah but oprah kim kardashian the pope all lost their blue check mark polyvi obviously the most important person it's so painful i don't want to go outside i mean how many people have cloned your account like already like can you even keep track i it's hard to keep

track of people who have spelled my name right while doing it you know like does it count if they've misspelled my name yeah no one has i don't know anybody who gives a shit the the process was super glitchy like the blue check marks were like flickering in and out of existence like it was marty mcfly's siblings when his mom wanted to fuck him there was also like um they're saying that if you filter by verified versus blue underscore verified that it still shows up because they're not actually like taken away it's just the marking of them i don't know how true that that is so they're just hiding the they're just like hiding them and they still have a delineation between them yeah but i don't but he's also like he on that tucker carlson interview he said he laid off or like 80 of the company left and it's like this dude he he like

has he has nobody fixing these problems on the back end he just does not he's like put the doge in the corner and then that's it you know give the man a break his rocket just failed he has to take care of this he wanted it to fail actually that was on purpose because he did it for the lulz and he also wanted his marriage to fail to fail because that's actually how you learn and grow as a person his my bad his his uh fatherhood is failing but he is one he's increasing 37 children he is increasing the population of the world you know just not feeding it so yeah no custodial staff anywhere to be seen one celebrity whose blue check mark didn't vanish was stephen king who had been one of the most vocal critics of his stupid plan also lebron that was like well i'm not paying for this because i'm cheap

which i guess is the true thing about lebron and then it later came out that musk was personally paying for stephen king and king james's check mark presumably to make it seem like he'd changed their mind and like started they started like paying the eight dollars a month so he he got Stephen King. Oh, I thought it went away, but it came back, I guess. Yeah, he said, I thought he tried to get rid of it, but he couldn't do it. Oh, man.

Ha ha, got his ass. He's paying for the product that he introduced that nobody wants to pay for. He's put Stephen King in his own horror novel is like having a blue check mark that means you're a tool yeah exactly just just i i don't i don't even know what to say at this point he's just so it's a bit of a it's a bit of a czech cemetery wouldn't you say whoa beautiful thank you thank you yeah so he's also paying for lebron's william shatner's anybody who criticized it he will pay for your blue check mark account mark account if you're like big enough famous okay i i haven't said much on the subject because i have a blue

check mark and please hear me out that you paid for I did now they'll read I paid it for it before the whole blue check was even a thing but my whole argument is like when it comes to online businesses which essentially I am yeah like 99 of my job is social media that's the only way I can get protection on my account yeah i had friends who are sex workers who had to do the same like friends with like only fans and stuff because he was talking about like decreasing the visibility of people without the checks and everything so i don't blame i do not blame like people who have jobs like that for paying for it because it's not the it's not you're not in charge

of the capitalist system you're participating in but i do blame like huge elon dick writing losers who like pay for the fit you know what i mean so i think it's fine if you have a job like that that's fine i'm not making fun of you i'm making fun of elon and those like elon defenders you know for sure like those people should be dragged and like kim kardashian the pope they don't fucking need to be on social media you guys have your platforms right now you can just issue a statement and people like millions of people will hear it somehow pretty much you know yeah you can issue a statement from your dull drab beige colored-colored home. Beige-colored. Well, not the Pope. The Pope has that. Yeah, he's kitsch as fuck.

Yeah, he's kitsch as fuck. You know, it's just the Kardashians. You know what? You're right. The Kardashians should learn more from the Catholic Church. That's right. Or the Pope should get some Botox.

Thank you. Oh, yeah. I've been... Brazilian butt switch. DMing him this for a long time yeah my favorite because obviously like the problem that you pointed out kim is that like they're these verified accounts existed for a reason and so people immediately rushed in the copycat accounts started popping up someone made a verified new york city government

account that was so funny the real new york city government disputed it but the matter was settled by the verified pope himself who declared the fake account to be the real one which is just gotta love it you do yeah what's fucked up is uh like if you sign up for twitter blue or whatever meta is doing now they're like they're putting in oh direct customer support or two-way office office centation oh my god authentication there we go two factors yeah yeah you don't get that unless you sign up for the plan yeah there's just absolutely no account security that's like yeah so it's so dumb because it like it just means yeah it forces it to become like a truth social situation where like the the user group is like the people who can't afford it and like the people who want to support this platform and it just makes the incentivization

of like using twitter and creating content for twitter like such like there's like no incentive you know but it's it's also like it's a actual threat to like people who are trying to get on the ground news out like i always used to say twitter is the place that you go for like pop culture and like jokes and like regime changes like as it is happening on the ground in different countries like it's super important to know like what like news organizations are saying about what's happening in real time and now people are people are literally going to die because of it like they don't have that as a as a you know platform yeah and to find out what ashton Kutcher thinks after David Bowie dies, you know?

Oh my God. What did he say? I feel like I remember there was a stage of Twitter where like, whenever a famous person would die, like you would get these just disingenuous, like half baked, like, oh man, RIP to a real one from Ashton Kutcher.

Yeah. I love that from comedians who like post the only selfie they ever took with someone and it's like yeah in the background and it's like the person who died like in the foreground and they were like we were best friends a true inspiration yeah yeah multiple presidential candidates lost their verification including trump who doesn't really use twitter anymore but But your Nikki's Haley and Ron's DeSantis have have paid the money. They they are verified. Nikki Haley existed. Wow. Yeah. The bliss I had for a little bit. agencies are losing their blue check marks including the peace corps the national science foundation the department of veterans affairs there's also a like a verified account a fake

account that subscribed to twitter blue claimed to represent the paramilitary group fighting for control of sudan and falsely claimed its leader had died in the fighting too so like it's it's just a mess it's basically like taking it back to a time when the internet was just whatever anybody who knew how to type into a website wanted to put out there but that internet was fun that was like 15 years ago that was fun internet yeah it's just troubling when it's being used to presumably kill people yeah this is like the town square but like everyone's yelling it's like elon wanted it to be but it's like everyone's screaming there's like crazy shit going on yeah and then he's gonna introduce some solution that was basically the same thing that they already had in two years

like another layer i fixed it yeah anyways we hired a janitor finally yeah we got a janitor all right uh finally there's good news there's been new promising research in parkinson's the michael j fox foundation recently announced that they've identified a biomarker for the disease with high accuracy. Researchers believe that this may be able to indicate the disease before symptoms appear, which would be like a huge step in like finding new routes for diagnostics, potential therapies. The tests have so far been able to be about 90 accurate and that's fantastic there wasn't a way really to diagnose before symptoms arrived prior i just i know he's a rich and we have to eat him but i fucking love michael j fox i've always been a fan of him he's a rich he's a rich and we have to eat him but he's he like literally like i remember like i would i was a huge fan of him and like all of his shows and his movies like growing up and like i just thought he was like a great actor but then to make the transition to like make this your cause while

having the disease and also like at the time everyone was like shitting on him for stem cell research and for like pushing this like i remember as a kid being like because of the propaganda of like news and media just being like oh like maybe he's like a bad guy like you know like having that weird wait really there's a stem cell research i remember that controversy around him everybody was it was they were pushing the dead babies narrative yeah everybody was like you're you're harvesting dead babies for stem cell research for parkinson's and there was that like the way it was presented was that it was controversial and so like as a child i was like or like i don't remember when it started but like not being fully aware of like what it was and how the news was presenting

it i remember like just feeling like oh i don't know about this like is this weird and then like later becoming like a scientist i was like this is fucking dope that he was pushing for this and now we're seeing the results of it and it's cool that it's happening within his lifetime you know like i think it's awesome when celebrities do that when they like advocate for something that they get a lot of hate for but will eventually like pay off and not at the moment it's not like instant gratification this research takes decades and it's like working so i just i fucking love michael j fox i hope he's not problematic in other ways but i know he's an old white dude but he seems dope and i put some

respect on his name i guess yeah he stuck to his cause like it didn't matter and like his fame be damned he didn't know what was going to and he he deferred to experts like he didn't do the thing that celebrities do where they're like i think i know the solution and i'm gonna push people for through my thinking and my problem solving when i don't have any of the background like he put money in the hands of like people who could help you know yeah so that's that's really cool that would be wonderful if this was one of those things that our kids were like oh like the way we kind of view polio as like a thing where yeah fully aware was like a dominant thing in the zeitgeist that was like killing people all the time yeah i'm sure a lot of people

who were devoted to alex p keaton were disappointed when yeah he was associated with a cause that like rasmussen told them was killing everybody and they'll steal your babies the alex p uh keaton people and like their their person that they ended up going towards would have been the growing pains guy what's his name kirk cameron yeah kirk cameron yeah like kirk cameron turned out like who they wanted alex p keaton to be basically that banana thing still so funny wait what was the banana thing kirk cameron like had this video where he was like look at the banana folks he's like holding up a banana he's like this is proof that God exists. Oh, right. Because it's got a wrapper like a candy bar. You just take, you open it. There's no seeds in it.

It's just this delicious piece of fruit. But just talking about it, the banana just dropped into our lap. And the reality is that the banana is the result of generations of generate like hundreds of years of bioengineering by you know farmers not not like the you know genetic stuff that freaks people out like just people you know designing things by breeding bananas that looked the way they wanted together eventually until they eventually like had one

that was edible and it used to be like this really seedy nasty like plant that people couldn't eat but he was like look what god did like this is proof that god invented the produce section the slaughtered maybe what he's saying is that god invented science and science is good maybe that's what i don't think that's what he's saying shockingly you'll be surprised to learn i'm just i'm trying to bring in those like aren't all bananas just a clone now yeah they are like yeah the way that you grow bananas is through grafting so you like have to like cut a piece of the banana plant like grafted onto a place where it grows but they're all clones of the same single banana and baby bananas yeah dead baby bananas this is exactly what elon musk wants his

children to be is just yeah he wants to repopulate the earth as a clone banana and the bananas that like our parents ate and that i think i even ate when i was a kid like in the 80s were a different species of banana like so we all have like one identical type of banana that is going to always taste the exact same and like the bananas before were a different individual type of banana that tasted more like it had more banana flavor to it but then a disease came like that's the problem with having cloned fruit is that it they're all this exactly the same so genetically like one disease will just like wipe the whole species out and so you can still get like the old like 80s and 70s bananas that i guess i guess they taste more like banana candy or like you know the banana

flavoring that we have now like actually tastes more banana than our actual bananas because it's based on a more flavorful version of the fruit that existed and got wiped out. I'm glad that banana's dead. Fuck that banana. It's awful. When they changed the Girl Scout cookie recipe and everybody was like, it's not the same. Or McDonald's french fries. Yeah, McDonald's french fries is a big one.

Well, Kim, such a pleasure having you as always uh where can people find you follow you all that good stuff instagram twitter the double underscore red dot if you like dirty comics with butt plugs and female sexuality and sometimes wholesomeness i'm all that and then uh you can support me on Patreon, the devil underscore red dot. And then just Google me, Reddit, Facebook. I'm everywhere. Everywhere. And is there a tweet or a work of media that you've been enjoying? So I actually was listening to Friday's episode and about like tangible things and how DJ Daniel was saying it's a shame like we're not into that as much anymore so I was just thinking of physical media and I've been

reading Scott McCloud has all these books on comics like Reinventing Comics, Understanding Comics and they're all in like comic form they're really good great like read if you're into that kind of stuff

i used to have it on the bookshelf right behind me i'm not sure where it went but yeah understanding comics is a great read just like it's good because it's not like it's not just like a manual it's not like comics for dummies it's a comics artist just like really breaking down and like it just makes reading comics even more interesting because yeah and the fact that he has it like drawn out in me is it's a comics artist just like really breaking down and like it just makes reading comics even more interesting because yeah and the fact that he has it like drawn out in panels like i finished the book within a day and then i bought the rest of everything he made yeah he's great i think i know why it's not on the bookshelf actually is because a reader once was like pointed out in a picture of me that like, I had like watch men and then like somewhere else,

like understanding comics. Like I was like, how do you read this? But it is a great book. You're, you don't have to be a dumb, dumb to enjoy it. It's actually makes you really appreciate how comics work.

So go get that. And then read Kim's comic. Yeah. Understand me better. Yes. Pallavi, such a pleasure, as always, having you guest host. Hell yeah. Where can people find you?

And is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Well, now that I've lost my check, like, I don't even know if you can find me. Doesn't matter. Pallavi Ganalan, but it's like nothing I say is verified. So it doesn't even matter. There's this Morgan at Morgan Failchild tweet that's been going around and it's from 2019. And it really like epitomizes a lot of like the arguments on the right in terms of like a lack of accountability and it's um i dated a 5-8 guy who taunt every jacked 6-3 bro he met until they pulled their fist back to beat him up

whereupon my ex would go hey hey come on i'm a little guy i'm just a little guy it's also my birthday i'm a little birthday boy and it somehow always worked and it's being that tweet is being used to like quote tweet like when justice clarence thomas like said his wife didn't have any income when she earned almost like seven hundred thousand dollars and he was called on the line he was like it was due to a misunderstanding of the filing instructions no i'm a little birthday boy no no no he's not allowed to buy all my parents houses and my houses and fly me on a yacht on a flying yacht somehow because on my birthday

you can find me on twitter still still just grinding it out at jack underscore o'brien uh tweet i've been enjoying haiti mclife had a good uh point said elon has brought thousands of nazis to twitter but not to his business where they've proven useful building rockets which if you know anything about the u.s space race oh my god and then uh christy yamaguchi main doing double duty today because he also wrote the aka but just pointed out this headline i think it's from the daily mail but he honestly, this has got to be on the metal stand of international shit talking top shelf. It's a headline that says, what are we supposed to take out Spider-Man and SpongeBob? And it's a quote attributed to Iranian cleric mocks U.S. and says Tehran can't strike back at targets of

Soleimani's stature because America only has fictional heroes. Who are we supposed to assassinate? Spider-Man and SpongeBob? It's just so good and true. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.

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Like that part sounds like what would happen if Apex Twin was crafting a lullaby designed to stun a baby into unconsciousness. Like it is, it's heavy but the rest of it's pretty chill so this is black and decker by downhill 2010 you spell that downhill 2k10 all one word and you can find that song in the footnotes footnotes the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning.

Back this afternoon to tell you what is trending. And we'll talk to y'all then. Bye. Bye. hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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