The Daily Zeitgeist - Bluey Blues, The Disappearing Digital Record 08.18.26

Episode Date: August 18, 2026

In episode 2110, Jack and guest co-host Sofiya Alexandra are joined by filmmaker, writer, actor, comedian, and co-founder of Small Beans, Michael Swaim, to discuss… Luigi Mangione Pleads Guilty To Federal Stalking Charges, PBS Is Missing 70 Years Worth Of Footage Due To Cloud Storage Dispute, Disney Pisses Off Bluey Fans And Announces New X-Men and more! Luigi Mangione Legal Defense Information Luigi Mangione has pleaded guilty. What happens to his other trial? ‘I shot Mr Thompson’: Luigi Mangione describes his planning and the killing of health insurance CEO Double jeopardy could spell end of state case after Luigi Mangione’s guilty plea PBS Could Lose 70 Years of Historic Archive Footage Over Cloud Dispute ‘The Bluey Movie’ Trailer: Beloved Kids Show Character Dogpaddles To Big Screen For First Time – D23 What Have They Done to Bluey? The Bluey Movie trailer: First look at film adaptation of beloved Aussie TV show screened at Disney’s D23 ‘X-Men’ Finally Unveils Its Cast, Including Adam Driver, Inde Navarrette, Christopher Abbott More Rumors About the Future of Marvel’s Fantastic Four Movie LISTEN: California Dreamin' by José FelicianoSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I mean, I'd see more stuff organically if baby. It wasn't baby time, but it's baby time. It certainly is baby time, isn't it? Baby too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, new one too, not new nephew as well. Only a few days old. So they just keep coming. You guys are popping them out.

Liam, yeah, we have Liam. Liam. Yep, I love that name. Four days old. Is it a William Liam or? No, it's just Liam. It's just Liam. I didn't realize that.

But that was short for William. William. In some cases. Until Will I am schooled us all. Oh, I didn't know that either until just, just now. Tofer, of course. It took me forever until I was like 25 to be like, oh, Christopher Toff. I, again, just found that out right now.

And we're learning. I mean, I've just been told it. They're like, oh, yeah, Dick is short for Richard. Yeah. Okay, why though? Or there's some where they don't map, and I actually don't understand that it, how a convention. My real name is John.

Oh, yeah, you're allowed to trade Jack for John for no reason. For no reason whatsoever. But it's allowed. It's traditional. It's true. Yeah. Yeah, I know people who have, like, experimented with different names and, like. Really?

Do you know anyone who tried it and then backed off? Yeah, I do. I do. I do. Told their friends and family on trying this out. My good friend, John, who in college for two years was Jack and then was like, yeah. Yeah, he's like, I don't like that guy.

I don't like who I become. I think it's Dana Carvey who does the stand-up bit on Sting, which opened my eyes, too. Yeah. His impersonation of Sting asking, no, his real name's Gordon, and asking his friends like, I want to be stink for now. Like the verb, like it's happening now. Yeah, stink. Right, gory.

Not stung. How do you enforce that? I mean, how did the edge pull it off? Because it's not edge. He's like, the edge every single time. Don't just say edge. I won't answer. Then we'll be a have a problem because you'll need me and I won't be there.

It's the edge. It's not any edge. It's the edge. The furthest one out. The cutting edge. Yeah. And then I just learned our next icon episode is about Madonna. I totally assume Madonna was like Bono, was not her name. And it is. She was born. She was Madonna Jr. Her mom was Madonna. Her mom was Madonna. So she just has the perfect name.

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my name's Jack O'Brien aka I always feel like McDonald's watching me just eating burgers G oh that one courtesy of snorphylla in reference to the fact that McDonald's has like a minority report. Eyes everywhere hold on anybody who's using their app.

Just know that McDonald's knows more about you than your own loved ones, at least with regards to your McDonald's eating habits. They're very onto it. They have like a futures market gambling about how much McDonald's you're going to eat. It's kind of flattering. It's both dystopian and it's also just kind of like, holy shit, are you? My God, you guys are obsessed with me. I'm thrilled to be joined in our second seat by the very talented writer, stand-up comedian,

co-hosts the Great 90-day Fiancé podcast, 420 Day Fiance with some guy named Miles who is not here right now. But we're thrilled to be joined in his place by Sophia Alexandra. So, so, so filling in for my, my, my. And so-so, my-mi. Just happy to be here. So-so in for my-mai. Also, do you know how they get you to use the McDonald's app?

It's like if you try to buy any food at McDonald's without it, it's actually legitimately expensive. Yeah. It's like you might as well be going to a steakhouse. Yeah, they're like, if you want to pay full-on pricing, go for it. But if you want us to steal your soul digitally and get a $1 burger, I guess, you know where to Yeah. That's, it's insidious and also kind of, I appreciate it. Thank you, McDonald's for being so interested. Sophia, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant filmmaker, writer, actor, comedian, podcaster, who co-founded Small Beans, which the AV Club called one of the best podcast networks doing it. Had a video at Cracked back of the day, starred in, helped create many of the best videos that you remember from back there.

Please welcome back to the show. It's Michael Swam! Woo! When are you going to have Madonna on to do my icon episode? We're out to her, Michael. We're out to her. Her and Cher are in a crazy hitting war right now, and like, we don't know. We don't know what's going to happen.

I'm showing my butt in a sketch. She's like, you think there's anyone in America that's in your butt in a sketch? You did it on after hours. Thank you. So happy to be here. and with Sophia getting like a new vibe. I love every time there's new instruments in the... Yeah.

Yeah. Let my more so-so. Yeah, that... No, that I was enamored of, but then there's so much to spiral out about, but the bit of news you already dispensed, I didn't know, and I'm now, like, morose about. But, hey, that's what the Daily Zikeguise is for, right?

You know, I'm putting all my points on, like, prescripted jokes I can dispense later as if I am randomly coming up. Oh, the McDonald's. Let me do that. No, yeah, it was that. It was the McMarketing precognition thing. No, I knew about it as a factoid, but just what Sophia said, maybe connected to just like one of the, we all know, capitalism is guttering out and to feed the stock market class. They can't think of any new stuff.

So it's just like you got to mine deeper, you got to cut corners or you'll lose your job. seems to be the mechanic going on. And fucking everything, like I know they're trying to meter intelligence. I didn't realize they were going to meter French fries, that they're like streaming fries. How can we get people not to just eat our fries, but live in a marketplace that's just McDonald's fries? And I'm like, I fucking hate this so much. It's just as Mactopian or whatever. It's very mictopian.

Yeah. Do we think the precogs are bathing in a bath of milkshake or McFlur? If it's not McFlurry, I don't want to be a part of this timeline. They're always running out of McFlurry. Maybe that's where it's going. Or what about all the machines always broken. It's because they need it to scrape your data and sell it. And they just package data and sell it to other suckers who are like,

we're going to use this data to sell them even more. And you're like, no. Now you're getting out of hands. It's diminishing returns anyway for you guys. That cynical. Are they that cynical? Come on. McDonald's, no way. Michael, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the things that we're talking about today. We're going to talk about Luigi Mangione has pled guilty to federal stalking charges, which he admitted in court that he shot Brian Thompson and that Brian Thompson died, which is a weird Rachel McAdams and Game Night-esque way of describing what happened. Where it's like... And that the bullet hit him in the fatal area. Yeah, yeah. Pursuant to which he expired.

We'll talk about information. There's definitely shots I'm willing to take from Luigi. That's right. He's very handsome. I get it. Nope. Oh, that's not what you were talking about. It says politics.

Oh, okay. Got it. He could be the ugliest man in the world. And I wouldn't have noticed. I don't see abs. Call me different. Okay, Jack. I just don't.

The imply. abbs of the politics. I don't see perfect bone structure. I don't see dimples. What I see is a man who's got a firebrand, a freedom fighter willing to martyr himself for the cause. A smile that lights up a room.

A smile that lights up a room, even if it's a jury room. He was unable to hide to be on the lamp. People were like, oh, that's the handsome guy from that video. Again, that's for other people. Do you remember that psychopath who wanted to be the Joker so bad that he was like,

yep, my inspiration was the Joker and I wore some kind of clown makeup to the event? Yeah. I imagine him in jail looking at Luigi's coverage of being like, that's what I wanted. I want what she has. Look, they're shooting him like they are in love with him. Like he's something, fuck. Yeah. I'm the Joker, baby.

And he's getting the really good haircuts in prison and shit. He's like, ah, they made me look like Dorothy Hamill. This isn't fair at all. I do think his catchphrase, I'm the Joker baby, could have used some more work. We're going to talk about disappearing digital content.

PBS is missing 70 years' worth of footage due to cloud storage dispute. Also, cracked, just deleted a bunch of columns from their website, a bunch of writing by some of the best writers of that era. So we're going to complain about that. We're going to talk about the upcoming Bluey and X-Men movie

because it was just D-23, the annual event in which Disney charges their fans, hundreds of dollars for the opportunity to be aggressively marketed at for three days. So we'll talk about what was revealed there. All that, plenty more. But first, Michael, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history

that is revealing about who, you are. Sure. Since we're going in this order, I'll go with Voo breathing for vagal nerve. And it's just a stray recommendation. These are stressful times. And it's a thing that works for me. You know, over life, like it's a combination of some meds, some exercises, some ways of thinking, some mental constructs. But a new thing I found that really works for me in terms of expiating anxiety about everything around us, climate change, et cetera. Mainly that for me. That's a big one.

Well, it's very hot where I am right this moment. But what's the deal with all these young people having anxiety? Do we think what's their deal? Are they on their phone too much, do you think? I always heard, you know, don't believe everything you read in the newspaper. And the percentage seems to have skyrocketed exponentially, though, over the course of my lifetime of I do want to always sound the alarm of

like to younger people. I don't know that the media was always completely a scam, but it pretty much seems all compromised at this point. Except this show. This show's great. That's right. And I'll take my payment and vanilla visa gift card later. But what was

I saying? Oh, so you just go and I'm trying to teach it to my baby too with mixed results, but sometimes it works. Just go, Voo. and you go like real low, the goal is to vibrate sort of your trunk. Get like a tooth of throat singing sound.

You don't have to achieve a good tone. You're just vibrating your vagal nerve, which I guess tells your body that you're not in a flight or fight situation right now. So if you can remember to do it, I would say, but I always strongly say, try it if it doesn't work, discard it. because I've found everyone's totally different with what works.

And what does that reveal? V-V-V-V-U is the sound. Voo is to help you get into the sound. Got it. It's not like a thing where they're like, this stands for vibrational optimum. No, no, no, V-HU. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Just like to do Irish accent, you might say, Well, I'll be fucked, and then you're in it. And then you're in it. Hi-ti-t-tart-t-a-t-tot. Yeah. Now you don't say that, though. Oh, okay. That's over the line, Jack.

I don't know, Brian, you get a pass, but I can't. Is the vibrating your voice thing, the same thing is when they recommend that you lay down and, like, vibrate your body or kind of like shake your body? Is that the same? I haven't heard that one. I wonder if it's the same. I don't shake it out as a theater kid to get energy up or get nervous energy out. But that's where you, like, shake your limbs at, you know, violently. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I've done that. But yeah, this is more just like kind of just, just. gently kind of, I don't know what the word is, like shaking yourself like jello while you're laying down, kind of. Yeah. Oh, dude, the, well, audio medium, but screw it. I love the, uh, an old theater trick I love and it makes an amazing noise is to loosen your jaw, you make fists and shake like, yeah, yeah, yeah, guh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, imagine like 20 theater kids doing that and trying to think of, like, what is it like to be Willie Lohman at the end of his.

life. I'm 19. That actually feels great. Just listen to John and then kind of do a shake weight type thing. That's right. Shake weight with your jawlers. Yeah, yeah. You don't even have to make the noise, but why wouldn't you?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. All right. We're making it. We're making progress. Yeah, I feel better. I feel unstressed. Yeah.

I feel unstressed. Yeah. And, shake, shake your sillies out. Mm. It's just a good, good song. Shake, shack. also can do it. They'll do it for you.

A lot of people don't know that. It's off-may-you, but you just go up there and you. You shake the shit out of me. Could you, I'm going to swaddle myself here real quick. By the little-timey strongman and leather straps are always so chill. That's right. That was an amazing word. I wish that was still in every gym.

You just go in and you're strongman onesie and there's a leather belt that just shakes. the shit out of you. I'm pretty sure science found that it didn't do anything is why you don't see him anymore. But I don't care. I want to just chill out at the gym. People would get Wiplash all the time. It did do something. It does something.

What is something you think is underrated? I mean, I'm trying to divest from having my data scraped. So I'll just shout out services like that. Like, I've vaguely known what a VPN is, but just in the last few years started using them. Even them,

if they get subpoenaed or decide to cave or flip or comply in advance in some way. They do have your data. The VPN itself has it. But I recommend people or like I have found it worth the very modest yearly fee to have a VPN because it also allows me to do things like have a robust Plex Media Server, another thing I recommend, so that I'm actually building a digital content library that exists on physical hard drives that I have backed up. Because, hey, what a great episode to get into it. But this is one of my primary concerns right now,

and this was before I was invited to guest today, is they're really burning the Library of Alexandria, like 10 times a minute right now. And their promise is just, well, it's not really gone because it's in the cloud. But at the same time, anyone who's old enough to remember a movie they wanted to see and go, oh, it's not on Netflix anymore,

and you search where to watch blind. and you go, oh, it's gone from existence. I didn't actually think that could happen. The cloud is limited and companies want to save money equals all this stuff disappeared. And their main interest is shareholder value. It is not holding onto the stuff that they have been put in charge of. So I have shirked my duty as a human being in maintaining, like I've even done, I read everything on Kindle and have fewer and fewer books.

No more. And I was even like, it's kind of nerdy and old fashion, like collecting records. Like it's a luxury I don't even have to have books, right? I have a busy go-go lifestyle. I'll just subscribe to everything. Well, I'm sick of it. So I'm divesting from all that shit. Duck, duck goes the other one.

Really clean good search engine. If you ask it not to do any AI or anything, it's just exactly like Google used to be, which is a disinterested index of information. So the better you are using search terms, the more accurate. accurate the information you find. Duck, go! There it is.

Underrated. How's your Plex? Are you just starting your Plex Media server collection? Which, by the way, I wrote Plex Media in my Apple notes and it changed it to Alex Media because it's, fuck you. Plex is not a thing.

They pay us to not know that word. I, do you guys get more earballs than we do. So definitely we'll circle back and check out the comments. please recommend. I'm just starting to allow my 19-month-old son to watch, to do screen time.

And I prefer, like, because he's a dance, we love to dance and silly out. So trippy music videos are visually engaging music videos, like major laser stuff and, you know, sledgehammer for older. But, like, anything with a trippy or, like, unique animated component, that's not, that's child-friendly.

So yeah, highly, any of those would be great. But that's about it that I'm willing to mention in a legally actionable environment. That is why I was asking. I don't have any movies. Wink, wink. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated, what I write? Oh, we can make this quick because it's on the same thing.

I was mainly scared to ditch Amazon. I'm less judgy because we're all born into complicity. and then we spend time arguing about who's more or less complicit to make ourselves feel less complicit. That's all fine. It's normal. You're all normal. It's fine. We love you. You're human. I mean, you pass a line and I change my tone. But for now, let me just say it's fine. But like, divest from what you can. Our dollars are what matter to them. And as a note, it's all that matters to the people that abdicate, like don't care about things like climate change, impact on the future, whatever. So I find Amazon scary to divest from because every time I turn to, it's like the Michael Jackson, it's like, what am I going to never? I really believe that he had very serious mental health issues and caused debilitating trauma.

Like I believe those victims in that case. But what am I going to not? The thriller, blah, blah, blah. You've heard it before. Have you seen the movie, by the way? It'll make you feel so much better. Oh, Michael. Oh, because they don't mention it.

And they made a billion dollars. Actually, you'd be surprised. He does hang out with kids in the movie, but it's just because they're sick and burn victims and stuff. And he's just because he loves kids. I believe he probably did also do that. Yeah, yeah. Because he loved kids and told himself he loved kids and had a narrative that worked for him, blah, blah, blah.

Yeah, it's also much easier to groom kids that are disadvantaged in anyway. Oh, I know. I know when people, I didn't mean to drag it into this. People are like, but McCulley Cokin said, he. didn't. Well, if he's smart at all, you're not going to do it to McCauley Cochin because you know that's anyway. Yeah. Amazon's convenience is not

such that it's worth getting its hooks into you. I find that like, also as you'll talk about later, and I don't want to blow up your spot, I just read today that Amazon is one of the biggest buyers of rare books destroying them right now because it's faster. They ingest them.

Not only is it faster to just cut the spine off, but also, are you going to talk about is? We've talked about it before. Okay. But like they're proud of it. Like their logo is a T-Rax eating book. And I'm like,

you have to fight that. That's flagrant anti-like. That's how you get the dark ages. How dare they? So I'm trying to get off Amazon. It's difficult because it's so convenient. But I'm just saying like, between like five services that I've discovered,

it overlaps to do everything Amazon does. And I'm just trying to be like screw Google, screw Amazon. Anything big. Apple, too. Which are the five services that you've replaced Amazon with, if you don't mind me asking? Oh, I don't know. It's books.

It's for all my books, my solid books, which I'm getting. The big one is, darn it. I'll send them to you after, so. Please do. Thank you. It's like, I'm just. I know where to get my books. It's more for other shit.

And I don't even remember the names of them. I have them bookmarked. Yeah. We're all figuring it. out as we go. Exactly. And that's my new thing. But I thought it would make a good virtue signal for this podcast. There we go. Did great. Awesome. Let's take a quick break. We'll come right back and we'll get into the news. We'll be right back. Woo. Get Bell Pure Fiber Internet with Crave, Netflix, and Disney Plus from $94 a month. Price guaranteed for two years on internet with a two-year term and auto pay credit.

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Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Luigi Mangione has admitted in court that he pled guilty to stalking, to a very specific charges, but basically, two federal charges of stalking also explained that his actions came after years of enduring severe. pain for a broken back navigating the obstacles of the health insurance system and witnessing similar experiences of countless others. And what one detail that I think stuck with a lot of people is he recounted how his recon involved emailing United Healthcare posing as an investor at a firm managing over $50 billion in assets. And unlike any previous interaction with the company, he received an immediate response within an hour, just to make crystal clear what their motives are.

And so this is, you know, a lot of people were wondering what was going to happen with this trial and, you know, speculating that no jury would actually prosecute him or, you know, no jury would find him guilty because everybody's sort of on board with a lot of the stuff that he, He, you know, his reasoning at the very least. But that is not going to happen. And he seemingly has not made a plea deal with the prosecution. So we're... I mean, it's a double, it's a double jeopardy issue, right? That's the whole thing. He's pleading guilty to one charge to avoid being prosecuted for a larger charge.

Yes. We're all keenly aware of the double jeopardy laws, thanks to the case of Ashley Judd v. Tommy Lee Jones, which, you know, by pleading guilty to this, it will likely derail the state's case. Yeah. Since the conduct, he pled guilty to overlaps with the actions in his state-level murder charge. So his lawyers are asking for that case to be dismissed. So it's not going to be dramatic, but it seems like it is his lawyers trying to do what they think. his best in him trying to do what he thinks is best.

Well, his lawyer made some good points, which are, you know, pretty much like, there's no way to get a fair jury trial at this point for him. It's just impossible. He was like, he was on a perp walk that he did with the mayor that they've never done for anyone, like all of the ways in which he's been treated and the publicity and the coverage, like whether you like or dislike what he did. I mean, you can't admit that he's like the most famous Luigi now, like more than Mario's brother.

Yes. And being, like I haven't seen many public cases being made. That's how you get your mansions haunted, Sophia. I think you're underappreciating what. No, no, no, no, no. Luigi brings to the table. It does seem to be the most illuminating to me.

Like, I don't, I guess they're trying to, Like, ultimately, it doesn't seem like they're going to fight for a jury trial that gets him fully off, right? Or they're, they're like maneuvering toward whatever, a compromise with the law to get him as minimal a sentence as they can get him. And I don't actually have clarity on. Is that right? And good or do I support that? I do think as I've seen people discussing online and I'm fascinated with everyone's takes. but it seems the most illuminating is that everyone seems to be looking around the room going, well, it would be difficult for him to get a fair trial because everyone understands the connection between someone pressing a button or checking a spreadsheet and actual human separate. Like everyone is on board with the understanding oppressive systems and social murder.

So that would make it tough for people to forgive or not take that. I'm like, oh, in this dismal world of being like, and we voted for this guy and we did this, of, oh my God, you know, we're seeing these sprouts of hope. And I think one is, I don't know. Again, I'm not clear on what I support as the actionable step. But the fact that society at large is like, well, now it's kind of a complicated situation. Right. Because that guy wreaked untold havoc.

I'm like, that's good that we can even talk like that. Yeah. And that there are CEOs who seem to be coming out and being like, I mean, I don't want to get shot. Yeah, I guess some poor people. like eventually the Graham, man, do you remember because it was, oh, Enron executives, there was a tape at one point where they were like, I guess grandma won't get her meds this year. Like literally saying cartoonish shit came out of the trials. And it's like you imagine them going like, I guess eventually they will fucking shoot you. Maybe we should chill out, guys. Yeah. Well, the fallout after the shooting, I mean, outside of CEOs getting extra security or flying private or whatever, which I could give a fuck about. The fallout that I do care about that I find interesting is that the percentage of claims that got approved went up dramatically for the first three to six months or something after the murder. Because they actually felt like there might be consequences for, you know, the social murders that you mentioned, Michael. And then they were like, wait a minute, oh, we're proving too many. Let's cut back again.

So the fact that even the effect of this, which is, you know, insane. They got sued, right? Their shareholders are like, not so fast. Keep gouging customers or we'll fucking sue you. Yeah. That's what, like, businesses are torn between now. Yeah. The whole thing is really kind of, it's a real grotesque mirror.

We're trying to hold up to ourselves. And I don't think we like looking in mirrors. Well, they charge you now. Now, in America, you have to do like a copay by the hour to look in a mirror. They do own that image now. It's considered preventative care. Yeah. I want to look into my neighbor's gold toilet that I elected, even though he's a fucking predator.

Yeah. Yes. Well, anyway, I think we all have horror stories of navigating the American health care system to the point that I omit them because they're boring. But it's always wild to step outside and go like, and this whole, like, structure is shackling. or like, you know, stapled to the side of this whole. And other countries don't even have it. They're just like, yeah, you shouldn't try to squeeze profit from that. And we're like, no, we know.

Yeah, no, most of us know that. It feels bad to us. Yeah, it definitely feels bad to us. Yeah, it seems like the government should be investing in you guys, like, preventatively as opposed to treating you after. We're like, no, we know. We want that too. We want that too.

Living, working human beings. Yeah. We go back to Australia. Yeah, there's a case. That's my main takeaway is. Get the fuck out of here. Making me feel that. But yeah, I mean, there was a study in Yale School of Public Health that was like,

well, it would save a trillion dollars and over 100,000 lives if we switched to Medicare for All tomorrow. Right. It's not profitable. No. Anyone who's played a. real-time strategy game or like SimCity would go like, oh, duh, over the long term having the human bodies that are the machines that work, everything thrive is more profitable, period,

than society unwinding. Right. But not profitable to the people who currently have the money. To the people who make society unwind for that brief period, that it's a party, it's party time, man. From unwinding for maximum profitability. Yeah. Yeah, it was like how, how tripped at I was when I was in Helsinki when I was recording Private Parts Unknown, like a couple years back.

And we were talking about the differences in like the way the countries think and stuff. And we were just talking about like, hey, it's really cool. You guys like get so much parental leave and, you know, money and stuff when you have a baby and like and or supply. You know what I mean? like all of these things. And it's cool how there's pretty much right away, you know, caretaking that you don't have to pay for your kids. And they just looked at us like we were fucking crazy.

And they were like, well, yeah, if there's no one to watch the kids, how can the parents go back to work? Right. And I was like, no, I know. It's cool how you teach your kids because children are the future. and in the future, they'll know stuff and your society will flourish. Yeah, and we know that. You know what's weird?

I don't know if you guys have thought about this, but implement that. We know it, but we can't like make it happen. It was so crazy. They were like, well, obviously education and buses and whatever are free. They're like, our greatest investment is our people. Again, looked at me like I was fucked up. I was like, oh, my God. Well, our corporations are people.

Yeah. And we are not. Our people are not people, but our corporations are people. That's what's crazy to me. I'm like, my Uncle Raytheon is going to be shocked to hear this. I recently had a dark epiphany or just like a bad feeling moment of, oh, they called it Citizens United because their argument is like, well, what is a business, but people together united, freedom, French fries, America, citizens.

And I'm like, that's so fucking. It's so like 1984. Yeah, it's the opposite of what the end result is. Citizens United. In being like, should we murder CEO's question mark? That's literally what this caused. Well, that can guess because Lockheed Martin has the right to pursue happiness now, and that's what it likes. And I want my grandfather, Lockheed Martin, to be happy with my grandmother.

You don't need that. to do a uprising because we did we published or we passed this law called citizens united so that took care of any uniting that you guys are thinking about doing it's it's been passed good we have release valve yeah yeah all right let's talk about uh things disappearing from the cloud been a rough year for pbs thanks to don't trump's cuts and now st louis nines uh or st louis's nine pbs is missing roughly 70 years of the stations programming, because the footage, which is around 50 terabytes worth of data, was all being stored in the cloud and various corporate machinations have made it. They were using something called open source storage OSS, which used one of Iron Mountains data

centers, but now OSS is defunct, and Iron Mountain is like, well, yeah, so that's who we dealt with. you know, a bunch of bullshit happening at a high level that has no, you know, takes no stake in like, why this matters or like what the importance of their job is beyond just like, well, how is retrieving this and giving it back to people going to drive profitability for our company? When we could wipe them and sell them to other data center assholes, just sell the hard drives and dissolve the company, found a new company. I'm a hustler.

I break stuff. Yeah, yeah. break stuff. I'm a disruptor. That's right. But we also fixed it quickly was the promise recently that Musk made it. Do we now? Okay.

Doesn't seem like it. Seems like kind of permanent damage that you guys are bragging about. Yeah, we're in this bizarre situation where there seems to be a competition of everyone being aware that there's an information. Somehow we want to monetize information itself. Also, we're in a bubble. So the winner will be the company that can suck up the most. the fastest, burning it all behind them. And inevitably, many of them will fail and just wipe whatever information they happen

to have sucked up and go away. So there's that. But we ate all the books. So. But not all. That's what's troubling. Whatever they missed is gone forever. Yeah.

And it, I don't know if it's especially true of our time. I mean, it feels like it's especially true of these, this system and the systems that are being deployed right now, but it has made me feel like, is it just part of getting older that you really have a strong connection to? Like, man, I really don't know what happened in 17, 28. You know what I mean? Like, I grew up thinking, oh, if something's in a history textbook, now I at least, I'm sure shit is embellished, but I basically know what George Washington was like, no, I fucking don't. Like, so much is a game of telephone about all of humans. thriving. It's wild.

We could easily forget how to make stuff. Advanced stuff. You'd be like, well, particle accelerator, how do you make that? Everyone who knows that's dead and the information's deleted, that could happen, y'all. Right. Wake up, sheeple.

It's kind of hard not to feel that way, though. Especially skills. Skill-based things that are like artisans and like tradesmen and stuff like that. People that know how to actually fix a thing instead of like there being a YouTube video. I'm really worried about when we start losing.

Yeah, people who know how to fix and repair certain things, like nuclear power plants or whatever. They're just like, oh, wait, we doged all those people? Oh, no. Let me just see if there's a YouTube video about how to fix and repair nuclear power plants. Just really quickly. Let's make sure we're okay. It's seven minutes and 30 seconds, and it takes you directly to the middle of it to be like, this is the key point. Yeah, that I was going to say, of a synopsis. Just go to the center. Why could I possibly need to know the safety precautions at the beginning?

Take me to the center of the toolbar. Just look for that little peak where most people melt it down. Yeah, thank you. There you go there, and it's just the guy who, like, kind of quietly farts off camera. All right, I'm back to loving it. Back in. To loving it. Jason Pargin was on, I think, TikTok posted a video about how recently a lot of the cracked columns section from, you know, our days at cracked, which had writing from you, Michael, an article that I still reference the, like, most mind-blowing scientific concepts.

I still think about it all the time, was written in your column section. Jason did most of his writing in the column section. Daniel O'Brien, Soren, like some of the best stuff, Sean Baby, some of the best stuff the site ever produced is now just missing. Like, you can't find it. You can find it on the way back machine. But it's just, there's just a world of data that is not being taken care of by the people who own.

that data, you know, it's just, they're just let it kind of die off. And I think, I think this happened with a lot of websites like a long time ago, but you can, like, it's just incredibly frustrating that it just goes, it just goes away. It's, there's nobody who's like out there, basically doing the sort of thing that you were talking about, about, like, having, having your own server to, like, download stuff and, like, keep it. safe. And it's just that, like you said, it becomes more worth it for them to just move on, erase it and not have to pay for... What I didn't anticipate is the repositories that are doing it because, of course, there's

always going to be enough, or not always, that's the threat. But I think there's enough people who see the value of memory, you know, keeping a repository of freely available information of skills and shit, so humanity evolves. like your Wikipedia's and your wayback machines. And there were people, so I anticipated, what I didn't anticipate is them being directly assaulted by the people who are like, not only do I have this ephemeral,

like you can't watch this random bullshit, but it's in our interest to kill the wayback machine or compromise Wikipedia using AI. There are people in suits pitching two shareholders. What we need is to, flood the zone with so much misinformation that they have to come with us for information. There are people right now pitching that as a strategy and like aggressively pursuing that, oh yeah, everything's a scam. I guess you've got to come to me now, huh?

Right. That's just chilling and disturbing. So like, I will risk tipping that I'm involved in a secret society of people hastily formed with a special set of skills working to archive some of the aforementioned cracked stuff. And even we are seeing, as we are scanning the way back machine, crawlers are going through

and deleting the captures day by day as quickly as possible. So we're actually racing, like, Languilleurs, the reference tracks, we're racing the Languilier's as they eat time. It's pretty weird to watch. Yeah, it's not incidental. It's, I mean, it's just a thing that is...

Sam Alman has said, like, oh, intelligence will be like, right? You pay for gas. You pay for electricity. How come you don't pay to know stuff? It's like fucking for the obvious reason. Because that would doom humanity, you idiot. Like, I don't know how to make it simpler than that. It'll be like water, which also, by the way, you're going to be paying like way, way, way, way more for.

But it's like, how come you don't pay me to even, like, know how to make it? fix something. Well, because we want to all share an cause he wants to talk to his baby. So like, I don't think that we should be listening to. Yeah.

And then he attacks on at the end always, and this will free us all in a bright future. Like, where are you, what do you get in that from? Or like extrapolate how. Yeah. Connect those things.

Right. Because this pitch has always also included him being like, and I do keep a cyanide pill on me because, you know, they're coming for us. I know what I'm doing. Yeah. Right. I might be in an undergang. Like.

bunker situation. Jesus. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back to talk about Bluey. That's good, right? That's wholesome. We can talk about it.

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D23, which I didn't. That's what they, yeah, that doesn't sound dy 23 THX23 yeah which is an annual event units are mandated

please meet my son XP4-789 is what I heard so this is a big marketing like it's like Comic Con specifically for Disney essentially feels like what it is where it's like a big marketing event where 100

you know price thousands of fans come together pay hundreds of dollars to be marketed at four, three days in Disney. And among the presentations was the first footage of the Blue movie, which doesn't look like... I mean, it's like a, you know, 3D rendering of the characters from Bluey. People are like, like, that doesn't look like Blue.

I mean, it looks like Bluey. It just looks like a 3D, you know, a 3D rendering of the characters. But just like very conservatively phased. to the framing and the, like, just like Homer walking into the 3D world. Yeah, that's exactly what it feels like. They wanted you to still like it. But ha-ha, they underestimated how, like, nitty-gritty fans are.

Yeah. They're like, no. They call it exactly like it like it like. Somebody wrote here to vote for the original animated style, and that comment on Instagram has 7,500 likes. So, yeah, I mean, it's, we'll see. I don't foresee this being a thing like Sonic, where it's where they can be pushed into change.

Yeah. Where they're just like, this does actually look like shit. You know, this is just going to be, I think, a thing that fans will have to choose not to go see if they object to. Good luck. If your kid likes Bluey. I know, right? I don't know if it was on this pod,

but I've chronicled my hate for Bluey on multiple pods. No, I haven't heard this. It always gets very sincere. Like, but I really just think you need to give it more of the chance. Or like, hey, I just wanted to reach out in my personal time to say, like, it's evil to not like blue your show. There's something wrong with you. No, I've watched it. I don't like it and I don't think it's good.

Also, as a fan of animation, like, it's interesting to me that their complaint is like, and what was one of quotes you got? It's the animation style that makes bluey, bluey. I would argue, no, it's not. It's the scripts and the voice acting. The animation is pretty goddamn generic, locked off wide shots like any children's animated thing would have as like simple bright shapes. Anyway, I'm a big bluey hater, and it's really fun to talk about in my free time,

so get it about it. You're right about the fact that who gives this shit about the changing look. of an animated thing. But I think we should be faithful to the fact that Bluey's ears are definitely hanging down and not sticky up. Are Bluey's ears usually hanging down, not sticky up?

They are. Okay. I think that's, yeah, yeah. That's like, look, let's look. Well, let's pay Sam Altman to tell us history remembers. He's like, actually, don't you know that Bluey's a cat?

I know I saw there's someone promoting their new, book all about Bluey in which on the cover, it's like the greatest children's show of all time. I'm like, there's just, that makes me even more contrarian. Like, you could only say that in a world where PBS got 70 years deleted. This fucking Sesame Street, bro. How quickly we forget. Yeah. I think there's some good creative ideas in Bluey in terms of, like, games to play with your

kids and stuff like that. Are we talking with your own name? Sophia looks like she's been talking about a completely different show the whole time. Bluey is not blues clues. Is that what I'm understanding? Bluey is an Australian Shepherd, I think. It's a family of dogs. Oh, I don't give a fuck about that guy.

I don't know her. Whoa. See, I wouldn't go that far. But now do you understand why I was because the hanging down ears are blues? Hey, not a better script. I mean, you could argue about the utility as a children's show. But blues clues, way more innovative animation than Bluey.

Yeah. I said it. There I said. I'm done ripping on Bluey. Can we move on? I don't think you should be done because I've never heard. Now I'll never watch it. No, I'm just kidding.

The other big announcement was X-Men, which has a reboot, which will include a bunch of actors who are young from varying shows and movies, such as Obsession. Christopher. Oh, yeah. Two different actors from girls. Christopher Abbott and Adam Driver are both going to be in it. Adam Driver is Mr. Sinister? Yes.

Wow, that will be a trip. That will be odd. Yeah, he's almost like Kylo Ren in as a china porcelain doll. Mr. Sinister. He's a weirdo. And Ben Abbott is Professor X, right? Yeah. You guys have it.

Yeah. That's what I meant. Yeah. And then apparently Marvel's, been trying to get Adam Driver for years and wanted him to play Reed Richards in the Fantastic Four movies, but he was like,

I couldn't really connect with that character, which got to hand it to Adam Driver. He's just very, takes his craft very seriously. He couldn't stretch himself. He couldn't stretch to do that particular role. Yeah. Interesting, but you could do Kyleran.

I'm like, I guess it's not just, like, I'm a psychopath. How fantastical is. It's Mr. Fantastic's journey had to speak to him. Mr. Fantastic is the epitome of, no, I'm not traumatized. I'm a norm core. I'm doing fine.

I'm doing fine. I'm worried about you guys. Which is not Adam Driver's, right? No, no, every day. He seems to be in touch with his pathos, for sure. Anyways, I don't know. The last X-Men series, kind of, they ran it into the ground, right?

There was, like, some bad ones towards the end. So are you looking forward to this reboot, Michael? I found them somewhat forgettable. Although I still get weird thrills out of seeing, even just how the, like, makeup and costume people pull off characters that we historically have not seen finally being in live action. So, like, they had, I think, apocalypse. and the movie was forgettable,

but I was like, I was glad to just see him. Just see them there on the screen. It still does it for me. So, I don't know, run into the ground. They weren't great. And they got, yeah, yeah, yeah. Diminishing returns.

But I could argue about that. Yeah. So always excited. I think, I was just watching, whichever the one is with the three Spider-Men in it. And despite all of my problems and everyone's problems, it was like, yeah, yeah. Far from home, no way home.

Still drove home to me that much like Bond, much like highly serialized things like comic books, I actually am fine with, you know, your Robin Hoods. Yeah, sure, a million. Let's see. I'm glad we're sort of moving beyond. It always has to be the origin story. Sure.

But I think as long as there's a new take, let's do it. That's almost separate from Marvel fatigue, because Marvel fatigue is a specific blend of four quadrant snark that the family can all enjoy. But I actually have no problem with, I'd love to see a million. Anytime they reboot X-Men, I'll check it out, see what the take is this time. I wish we had weirder ones. You hear about, like, you know, I forget, was it Lynch pitching, like, or Darren Aronofsky, what if Bruce Wayne was a crazy unhoused guy in an alley?

Right. Like, yeah, let everyone do the experimental. Yeah. So, because, yeah, we were sitting being like, hey, three Spider-Man, which was your favorite? And we appreciate them all for different reasons, despite some, like, even Andrew Garfield's movies were the worst. But I still think he was a great cast pick. Like, he's a good Spider-Man, despite the film's not living up to it. It's very good at what he does.

And X-Men rocks. Like, it fucking rules. Let's take swings at it till we get it right. We haven't gotten that right on the. the big screen yet, so keep trying so you get it right for sure. Yeah, I think that's right. I think the thing that's troubling Marvel at this point

is how massive and like multi-dimensional, like everything has to tie back in some way, and it's like, oh, this is a fun idea, and it's the 75th universe, and at the end, this character from this previous movie is gonna pop in and it's just like it feels a little too freighted and not like, yeah, this is fun, and it doesn't all need to be canon

and tieback. And other shows have spoken to in greater detail, but lots of processing problems, like getting into the habit of, well, let's just make the set pieces, get it, the CG going before it's even written. Like, there are reasons that it's a shitty idea. Oh, man, but I can't wait to see what kind of lightning Doctor Doom has coming off his hands in that next. Can't wait to watch the trailer and guess which characters they paid double to have a team comp out of the trailer so we wouldn't. know so-and-so gears in the movie. Rather than spend a couple hundred bucks to get another draft of the script, you know.

Well, Michael Swam, such a pleasure having you, as always, on the podcast. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you see you all that good stuff? I'm really upset by that weird noise I made. Weep! I will not make that noise if you listen to me on my home network, small beans. You can find all our free stuff, but just, just, by searching Small Beans wherever you catch pods. But if you hit us up at patreon.com slash small beans,

you get access to our Discord server where there's a bunch of secret bonus stuff. If you pay us $6 a month, you get twice as much podcast content. And then if you pay us $15 a month, you get even beyond that and like secret special bonus premiere series. Like right now, I'm halfway through a watch-long series of Battlestar Galactica with Cody Johnston of Some More News.

And that's a lot of fun. And then if you hang out on that Discord more, you might hear more about where you could still read that old cracked column archives should you want to, even when it's fully totally gone. And then last but not least, because it's how I'm paying rent right now is extra columns. If you like crack style writing, support Brockway and Sean Baby over at 1,900 Hotdog.com. Such a good story. Where they pay me as well as many other cracked legacy writers to continue to do those style of articles. So I'm doing a series right now on the worst Star Trek episodes of all time. Our beat is cursed media over there at 1,900 Hot Dogg.

So I'm doing all the worst. So I've already gone through the original series. Now I'm in the middle of TNG. Just shitting on the thing I love most. But who better? Shitting on it from a place of love. So no one else can do it. It's like how you beat your own kids to prevent bullies.

Wow, he's for his stuff. This is, there's no catharsis. That's right. So excited for your new baby. Thank you. Oh, yeah. And I had a baby. It changed my life.

It's so true. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? I mean, social media-wise, I'm only on blue sky at the moment. Find me just by searching Michael Swain one word. But over there, there's quite a thriving marketplace of web comics, and I almost feel like on Twitter for years they got drowned out. Or I'm sure if you tried hard, you could get them in your feet, of course, because that's how it works. But my algorithm totally fell off webcomics. It felt like webcomics existed for 10 years and then went away for 10 years, and now they're back.

So I'm really enjoying Beetle Moses. Shout out to Beatle Moses, who posts, among other places, on Blue Sky. And then I guess I won't burn another bridge. The most, yeah, I have another contrarian take. Hey, come over to small beans to hear all this stuff I hate that everyone loves. That's also, always fun, so fun. I love that. Oh, he hates that, I hate that.

Yeah. How dare people be happy about that? We should be open it up to work of media you like or that you don't like. And if you're hungry to burn a bridge. Or just give, yeah, over, eight overrated slots, one underrated slot. That's sort of the chip on my shoulder, I think, these days. There you go. Sophia, such a pleasure having you.

Where can people find you? And is there a working media you've been enjoying? Thank you so much for having me. I'm at the Sophia, S-O-F-I-A on Instagram. And what I've been enjoying recently is a subreddit called pollen pants, where people post photos and videos of bumblebees going too nuts where the pollen has overtaken their little legs and looks like they're wearing little pollen pants.

That's fucking wonderful. I'm going to show you one of the little pollen pants guys, the one that I commented under, motherfuckers wearing Jankos. Because he was a thing. So, Sophia, that's the dog from Blues Clues. I know. Every time I'm wrong.

Wait, hold on. Look at this. Look at these little pollen pants. Oh, wow. Look at those guys. Come on. It says juicy on the thorax. Yes.

Amazing. Well, thank you again for guesting. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien, Blue Sky, Jack O, B, the number one Instagram. Jack underscore O underscore Brian. My work of media, I'm going to send you over to 1,900 hot dog. They're doing great work. over there. Go check it out.

Wee. Wee. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zekeyes. We're at The Daily Zekeyes on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it. And there at the bottom you will find the footnotes.

Which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. And when Miles is out, we like to ask super producer Justin Connor, Justin, is there a song that you think the people might enjoy? Yeah, this is a cover of California Dreamin by Jose Feliciano.

This was recorded only two years after the original, so there's a nice, like, grainy warmth in this recording. He's got a strained voice that kind of adds a soulful texture. There's some strong choices in this that kind of set it apart from all the other covers you've heard of this. He goes into like a Spanish version of it a little bit later in the song. There's these swelling strings that give it a real cinematic feel. It's a great song. So this is California Dreamin by Jose Feliciano, and you can find that in the footnotes. All right.

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