The Daily Zeitgeist - Boeing StarZeiter Coming Back Empty 8/26: RFK Jr., JD Vance, Boeing Starliner/SpaceX, Republican Party, Presidential Debates

Episode Date: August 26, 2024

In this edition of Boeing StarZeiter Coming Back Empty, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, RFK Jr. dropping out of the election and endorsing Trump, JD Vance just buying some donuts lik...e a regular guy, the 2 astronauts stuck in space getting some bad news, the Republican party being "great for women" now that their polling is down, whether or not the presidential debates are even happening (and how hot the mics will be if they do) and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 did you watch that four-hour disneyland star wars cruiser video no it's i'm i'm on like as like everyone said when like the video was out like i am surprised i watched about 85 percent of a four-hour video essay wow yeah it's interesting because like it's such a thorough analysis like i'm not even gonna say takedown because she's coming into it as a fucking fan and she's like i'm just really disappointed and like it's weird it articulated a lot of things that i've felt at theme parks but because i'm not so into theme parks i couldn't quite like describe what it was like a lot of shit feels half-assed these like they don't as immersive yeah like you know indiana
Starting point is 00:00:46 jones there's like that one little like there's like little easter eggs in the line that you can fuck with that like set off different things like during like while you're like the the the arrows that was my favorite part yeah or there's like a fucking bamboo stick you could shake and it would make it seem like all the fucking rocks were crumbling and stuff like that but anyway like hearing her talk about like how low energy i'm fucking scared right now just hearing you talk about that man yeah dude it's fucking freaky you don't hey don't don't fucking get don't be in line with me in indiana jones motherfucker i'll be shaking all the sticks yeah it's all like sir that's fire alarm. That's a fire extinguisher. Yeah, goddamn right it is.
Starting point is 00:01:34 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted just like mine. Through powerful in-depth interviews with former members and new chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two
Starting point is 00:02:39 assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife
Starting point is 00:03:11 working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:03:31 or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session.
Starting point is 00:03:49 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out?
Starting point is 00:04:02 I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, everyone. It's me, Katie Couric. Have you heard about my newsletter called Body and Soul? It has everything you need to know about your physical and mental health. Personally, I'm overwhelmed by the wellness industry. I mean, there's so much information out there about lifting weights, pelvic floors, cold plunges, anti-aging. So I launched Body and Soul to share doctor-approved insights about all of that and more. We're tackling everything. Serums to use
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Starting point is 00:06:22 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And don't worry, we promise to avoid any black holes. Most of the time. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this week trend, trending episode of Third Daily Zeitgeist. Yeah. For August 26th, happy birthday to my big sister Shannon, my cool older sister Shannon. Dude, when's your birthday?
Starting point is 00:06:49 It was a month ago. Did we celebrate? Did we say something? Oh, you were gone, huh? Were you gone? No. No, I was here. I think we recorded. Wow, you slipped under the radar. Slipped it under the radar once again. You motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:07:04 This is what we get for never writing down each other's birthdays. When's yours again? Don't worry about it. I'm going to lie under the radar. Zeitgang, hit me up. Let me know when Miles' birthday is. It's the same as Prince Harry. When's Prince Harry's birthday?
Starting point is 00:07:22 I just need to... I'm a Leo. Brian, the editor, asked if I was a cancer i'm a leo leo big leo energy oh yeah oh yeah it's all it's always about you you come in with your chest i come in and i'm just making it about me quietly um just manipulating things so everyone's look at me look at me um and look what i just did with the intro it's my sister's birthday and we started talking about my birthday yeah had to sorry gotta do it sorry shan uh no happy birthday one of the best to ever do it in terms of big sistering all right
Starting point is 00:08:00 my name is jack that over there is miles this is the episode where we tell you some of the stuff that was trending over the weekend uh and friday because we don't record on friday so that gets in there too uh first we let you know what we're up to by telling you uh something we think is underrated something we think is overrated yeah um you want to kick us off with an underrated underrated and this is going to sound fucking obscene bizarre perhaps even dumb for lack of a better word um an outcast i believe is underrated oh shit now not for like not to be like there's a greatest hip-hop act the duo whatever no not like that i mean obviously hip-hop and rap fans know like how important the atlanta duo is to the to
Starting point is 00:08:45 the music to the to the best duo is within their reach right is there anyone else duo um yeah i mean as a duo i mean solidly there's a lot of like they're the s-tier duo and then underneath you have the a-tiers that's like a gang star kind of thing. Like if we're talking straight pure duos. Outkast is like top three for me. Just overall. Yeah, I love Outkast. Anyway, all that to say is like, I think they might be underrated because people
Starting point is 00:09:16 might not understand how important they are and well-known they are because I was reading this article. There is a fucking Atlanta based DJ like EDM duo that is calling themselves ATLians yeah and
Starting point is 00:09:31 they have like Outkast is suing them because like what the like are y'all for real yeah what the fuck do you think do you know who the fuck the ATLians do you do you know anything it is an album where they called themselves the ATLians? Do you know anything? It is an album where they called themselves the ATLians and adopted
Starting point is 00:09:47 an entire persona and aesthetic based around that idea. It's not just like they're... I could see if it was in a mod, if they were... Maybe, yeah. Naming themselves after an album by... If they were like, I'm Good Kid and he's Mad City
Starting point is 00:10:03 and together we're good kid mad you know but even then you're like you're not like confusing them with kendrick but at aliens was like it just like feels like you are trying to steal 100 their shit not just the titular song from the album is also very well known yeah um but anyway i guess like in 2012 this group filed a trademark wow and then outcast didn't realize it until i guess somewhat recently in the last year or so and basically like the lawsuit alleges that the edm groups quote usage of the stylized at aliens paired with their stage costumes some fans might actually think they're big boy and andre or at the very least connected somehow to the plaintiffs no i spell
Starting point is 00:10:52 it big b-o-y so it's not b-o-y b-i-g-g-b-o-y and they call me Daddy Rat Stacks. Daddy Rat Stacks? Daddy Rat Stacks. B-I-G-G-B-O-Y. It's that same mother-father that took them knuckles to your thigh. You know what I mean? I punch people in the thigh. Yeah, exactly. Giving a shout out to my uncle Donald, locked up in prison.
Starting point is 00:11:21 But anyway, so they're out here trading on this atlian's name um and like the other thing is like they wear masks once you hear the music you're like this outcast has nothing to do with this music it's very dubstep heavy shit um oh but yeah dubstep that's on the that's on the upswing that's cool yeah yeah yeah exactly which makes sense back in 2012 when y'all were registering that name but like i saw a clip of some of their music and it was very not Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Anyway, some people are defending them. They're like, no, it's an homage. But apparently it sounds like OutKast, they tried to do this before going to court to be like, hey man, can you not? We're going to be chill about this, but seriously, knock it the fuck off and they just were like no so now it's going to court so nobody's ever heard of you guys i feel like i feel like outcasts legacy and importance is always
Starting point is 00:12:18 like constantly it's like one of the big debates it's like circumcision and like wait you don't you don't know about outcasts like in terms of things the internet likes to like get angry about right right you know um but yeah i think that's because there is a threat of people like kind of forgetting how great they were because they just kind of stopped at a certain point or it just blows my mind that an atlanta-based duo thinks they could be like yeah we're at aliens like yeah and i get to maybe like in that sense like it's an homage because it's become something bigger than even what outcast had intended but like if you're making money off you're selling merchandise and all that that come on now i'm not buying it so anyway outcast i am i am thoroughly outraged
Starting point is 00:13:06 on your behalf that people think they can get away with calling themselves at aliens and it has nothing to do with y'all andre is not out here like being the american diplomat to the olympics he's making experimental flute albums so like people i think might forget every once in a while but i feel like their music is so strong that it'll just like come back and you know it'll come in waves but yeah and honestly i don't it it is what it is i mean like people it's like when you know you know um but like i think it's more just it's the audacity of it that really just fucking grinds my millennial gears. Alright. My underrated is the Animal Lists Circus.
Starting point is 00:13:48 We took the kids to the circus this weekend with some friends. Shout out Jen and Tom for the tickets. Like a humane circus, basically? It's Ringling Brothers. It's Ringling and Barnum and Bailey. They all got rid of
Starting point is 00:14:04 the animals after a number of people pointed out how fucked up the shit was. They were mistreating them. I got to say, I did not know about this. I hadn't caught the story that they had taken the animals away, shut down for a year, and then come back sans animals. I think we covered it on the show. I'm sure we did. It didn't stick in my brain of the 100,000 stories we covered it on the show i'm sure we did i just like it didn't stick in my brain of the 100 000 stories we've covered on the show yeah yeah um i walked
Starting point is 00:14:30 into crypto i was like something's wrong this is the setup uh the the circus is not in town because it didn't smell like animal shit like that that is such a part of the circus to me like you know the entire arena smelling like you were inside a room that had been hollowed out of a mountain of horse shit right like that for sure was the circus for so long and um but apparently it wasn't a setup to whack me like pesci and goodfellas uh they just yeah they got rid of the animals they've replaced the animals with um mixed results i'll say they've also replaced the clowns by the way clowns are gone which uh i was going in a little concerned because my six-year-old who has never like
Starting point is 00:15:20 encountered a clown in the wild is scared of clowns. Only at home when he catches me in my me time in my closet. But yeah, the entire clown aesthetic is made up of dark clown movie monsters for him. Clowns are one of the most frequently creepy Halloween costumes we see in our neighborhood during trick-or-treating. Right. They are only monsters at this point.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I think I'm going to start emphasizing to my kids, just make it seem like, oh yeah, clowns are everywhere, man. I had three clowns in my graduating class in high school yeah look look at those look at those clowns with the sirens on in their cars they go by hey wonder what they're not up to am i right take them to the black circus i don't yeah universal circus i've i've not i've never been that's a show that's a good one yeah i remember my grandparents as a kid and i was like this shit is fucking like it's it's like it's like going to like white church and then black church yeah it's like white circuit then blacks are like yeah yeah yeah yeah like oh man the speaking of
Starting point is 00:16:36 white church uh one of the things that they've replaced the animals and clowns with is a guy in a tank like a sparkly tank top just doing a what felt like 35 minute long drum solo on a drum kit just for some reason and then moby dick and shit fucking john bonham yeah just slamming the drums with like some sparklers going off behind him and then they like raise him on a platform to the roof while he's drumming and then back down that was i think the low point of like the things they've tried to but like most of it is i don't know they've got like a bunch of bmw uh or sorry bmx bike troll people yeah yeah yeah that are like pretty sick um they've stolen some things from cirque de soleil like a two-ended ferris wheel thing where like when you go up over the top the person like jumps and they're just like floating like that thing is awesome
Starting point is 00:17:38 um so they also had a miniature version of the boston dynamics dog it was just like running around out there that i did i did not care for that one but that's okay all right yeah yeah but i mean look they got they got to make up for something they do i think they need the katie perry giant lion from like her super bowl halftime show i think they need something like that that like has the grandeur of an elephant um because like one of those beast formers yeah the the little puppy was i don't know it was like i think it's maybe that's the replacement for the clowns which are you know play on the edge of like creepiness and fun that like kids will just like wedge in children's unconscious. But anyways,
Starting point is 00:18:28 shout out to them for getting rid of the animal cruelty and for trying some new stuff. I'd suggest maybe less drum solos, which is generally my advice on most things. Less drum solos. You give that a lot when we're producing new shows here.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Can we just drop the 20-minute drum solo in the middle of this true crime show? Fine. I thought it did something. Really, it felt like it underscored the violence. Yeah. Too much hi-hat work. Too much hi-hat work. A little too much hi-hat.
Starting point is 00:19:02 What is something you think miles is overrated just the democrat strategy of their just entire political messaging strategy of what about these weirdos to the right of me hey thank god it's a binary guys yeah when just like looking back at the dnc like you know there's a lot of talk about being like hey there's like a lot of people like where's the climate change discussion like isn't that that was a lot of talk about being like, hey, there's a lot of people like, where's the climate change discussion? Isn't that? That was a huge thing last election. And unless I missed something and we aren't having the hottest year on record, maybe that would be useful to talk about what's happening.
Starting point is 00:19:38 But yeah, there was really not much talk about it on the last day um in kamala's speech he just sort of like alluded to it's like we have we should have the freedom to live free of pollutants and like bad environment stuff and like oh okay okay like it was damn with bad environment yeah yeah no no like truly like in not in a way where it's like we like it felt like a step backwards for sure there are i i i'm willing to be fair and say that this campaign only came together like in the last couple months and so trying to put together a platform is fucking difficult but also like when you have a primary this is also how people begin to differentiate because you have a primary you know what i mean and that's where people can begin to say this is what i'm doing but because the the campaign is in the position they're in thank god for them all they need to do is just
Starting point is 00:20:32 differentiate right and when it comes to the republicans all voters are like bro they're not gonna do fucking shit they're not doing shit about the fucking environment so that's been like a i think a blessing because that allows the campaign to not really have to talk too much about climate change a blessing for them uh not for us not for the people who have to live on the planet for this pretty fucking i'm like you know i would like to know and i'm sure they're the something like that will come out but i think they also the campaigns also benefit from in like the last few years the like polling around like how important climate change is to a voter has also declined so i think they're like using that to be like ah well if they don't care then do we uh yeah sort of
Starting point is 00:21:19 a thing which i i very much do care but i think because so much energy has been put into like this is saving democracy rather than like the earth yeah um it's able to sort of slip through the cracks and then the other thing being that like the democrats there was just so much cop energy at the dnc and war hawk yeah that was crazy unbelievable like like really really bad freaky characters like cops like who are caught up in there was um who was this one guy let me i had his thing here um oh yeah there was like this michigan sheriff who was like working with this weird like far right group like on like operation under like on like human trafficking nonsense stuff right they also like they had a lot of cops up there in 2020 they had you know like the like grieving relatives of people that had been killed by the
Starting point is 00:22:21 police like go and you know speak on stage like people's like people the parents of like sandra bland and like george floyd but this time it was like an invitation to people just to be there not to actually speak um and then there was just like a lot of cops on there just a lot of weird stuff and again that's because this race is being framed as I'm the former prosecutor and I'm going after the felon who is a freaky piece of shit. And and who better? Like, he needs to be busted. So there's a lot of like law and order themes running through this election that has like allowed for again, like 2020. It was like, we got to stop endless wars.
Starting point is 00:23:03 2024. Everybody can get war money. It's on infinite mode. And now it was like we gotta stop endless wars 2024 everybody can get war money it's on infinite mode and now infinite war money yeah yeah we gotta do something about the cops the cops and the systemic racism blah blah and they're like how about some cops on stage to talk to you and you know and then the climate change is reduced to sort of like mentions not really anything substantive so it's been a real uh like again i think so many people are just so burnt out over the threat of trump that like all this shit just slides through very easily i think other people who are a little more engaged are kind of like can we get a little more something here in terms of like these other issues that seem to be really
Starting point is 00:23:42 like that were you were using to motivate people four years ago. I felt like... I don't know. I was hoping based on the pick of walls, some of the early economic policies that Harris has talked about, I was hoping
Starting point is 00:23:59 that they were going to steer away from the Clintonian triangulation where you're basing your policy positions on like what the other people are doing and like just playing defense kind of the whole time be like well they we can't like have them like criticize us being soft on crime and we're democrats so like we have to go um and it like it's called populism a lot that like you know some of the economic policies and you know basically left-leaning policies get called populism because they're popular because because people are like i don't want to drown and you know die from police violence and um but it
Starting point is 00:24:40 feels like once things started going well for them in the polls, they got like, it's like a thing that you, that happens in sports where once you get a lead, you change how you're playing. And it's always bad. You'd like to start playing defensively and trying to protect the lead instead of like continuing to do the thing that got you there.
Starting point is 00:25:01 And that's what it feels like they're doing. They're just going into like standard listen to the democratic policy wonks and uh advisors and uh that's a fucking uh travesty yeah it's it's uh i mean like the unrealized gains tax was like something that like on capital gains like a lot of people like oh that's okay that's something there's some stuff there but it's funny to see just as many people come like obviously i don't think people who are going to support harris or anyone who isn't trump but like the that immediate riff like reaction that people have where they're
Starting point is 00:25:40 like well i plan on being a millionaire like you know because this would only affect people with like a hundred million dollars or more um right and it's like like well i i certainly don't like that it's like bro yeah we're not gonna have a hundred million anything okay god so let's just the climate thing i've noticed a lot of climate shit with um just like reading like uh stray wall street journal headlines and like you know uh the mainstream media really seems to be buying into this thing that it's unrealistic to move off of carbon and you know fossil fuels like that it's now like that that's always been their move but like they've moved back to it and they're like well we need AI to like continue the economy growing and AI like requires just enormous amounts of energy. How are we going to fuel that?
Starting point is 00:26:33 Like they've moved past the, do we feel that? Do we need AI into anybody who says like, they're going to stop using fossil fuels as being unrealistic? Well, yeah. Cause like there's so much, so many market factors affecting those op-ed pieces, too. You'd be like, well, we can't kick the leg out of oil and gas that quickly unless everyone's fully transitioned their investments to clean energy. That's why I think another reason is why a lot of people harp on the polling about, well, are people ready for the shift that quickly?
Starting point is 00:27:04 There's things where people are a little bit. You can see the enthusiasm like waning for how much they favor a transition. It's still like above 70%. Yeah, but like they'll point to like, oh, it's dwindling as some kind of indication. And that's how you know it's wrong because 70% of people favor it because they don't want to die in a massive wet bulb heat death.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Well, Miles, I'd love to keep talking about this, but I do have to get to my overrated, equally important, I think lavender is overrated. The scent of lavender. That's right, I fucking said it.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Just lavender in general, I't know like it it's not not all lavender okay like i've smelled fresh lavender like the the flower lavender i think like when you catch in the wild you're like oh what what is that but for the most part lavender just smells like cheap soap to me and i i think like i did some googling to see if this is like an unheard of take and like i've seen it compared to the cilantro soap thing but like some people just like don't fuck with lavender and other people are like bathe me in lavender right um but yeah i don't know i and i i also don't know if't know if it's something that I've had from the start or if it's just like I've smelled enough cheap lavender hand soap
Starting point is 00:28:30 that I'm out. But I definitely associate it with like the elderly. It's like one of those classics. It's a classic. It's your grandma's favorite. Grandma's favorite like perfume. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. favorite grandma's favorite like perfume oh yeah yeah but it's now how i choose like i when i'm choosing uh which uh precise flavor of old spice that i'm going to use for my deodorant i'm checking
Starting point is 00:28:55 for lavender notes you uh you don't let you taste that you don't give it a little just becomes it comes in a bottle i don't think you're supposed to drink it i fucked up all my senses man i need to i need to go stronger than a than a whip what's that old spice that came in a buzz like the aftershave right yeah yeah i remember seeing that the first time i'm like what the fuck is this like that's actually how that shit started i'm like oh i got i got a version of old spice that had lavender notes and i was like i took me like a long time to get through it i had to go and go with a different one yeah i mean i i have a i used to have like an aromatherapy like diffuser kind of thing and lavender always was like the least exciting like it you're like i don't know i think you're just i'm like used to it like yeah it doesn't feel like the the novelty is gone the
Starting point is 00:29:40 thrill is gone it's vanilla of a spa sense. It's always there. Fuck lavender. There I said it. I didn't really say that. It's fine. I tell you that, but it's pretty cool if you guys like it. If you like it, whatever. It's cool.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to get into some more news. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church,
Starting point is 00:30:34 an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:31:13 This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president.
Starting point is 00:31:41 One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app,
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Starting point is 00:32:24 like you always do. One session, 24 hours. BPM 110, 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, everyone. It's me, Katie Couric.
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Starting point is 00:34:21 former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning. In a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And so the big thing that happened on friday i think it was rfk jr dropped out uh endorsed the only candidate that uh was returning his phone calls yeah um
Starting point is 00:35:37 true so it was a big weekend for tweets about cheryl hines's real husband being worse than her TV one. I feel like a lot of people made that comparison. Um, I feel like that's unfair to Larry on Curb Your Enthusiasm. Yeah. Cause that's a TV character. And also he never like killed people. It's not like trying to saw the head off of a whale to take home. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Um, yeah. So I, the whale thing is like every story that comes out about him it gets worse it's just or weirder yeah it feels like he's trying to summon satan in a hannah barbara cartoon like what are you doing to these animals right right right sawing a whale's head off and like i just want to yeah let me just read that because this popped again over the weekend um i assumed this popped because he was in the news for endorsing Trump, it actually popped up because his daughter is now
Starting point is 00:36:45 rumored to be dating Ben Affleck. This was from an interview with her from a number of years ago about an incident when she was six years old. Around 1994, Kennedy caught wind
Starting point is 00:37:01 that a dead whale had washed up on a beach in Hyannis Port, Massachusetts and rushed out to the scene with a chainsaw and six-year-old Kick, his daughter, in tow. He cut the whale's head off, secured it to the roof of his minivan with bungee cords, and made the five-hour drive back to the family's home in New York. Every time we accelerated on the highway, whale juice would pour into the windows of the car, and it was the rankest thing on the planet,
Starting point is 00:37:31 Kick recalled. We all had plastic bags over our heads with mouth holes cut out, and people on the highway were giving us the finger. That was just normal day-to-day stuff for us. You know that's a real memory, because when you're a kid and you see an adult give your car the finger, you're like, are they going to kill me? Why?
Starting point is 00:37:54 Why do they hate us? Also, what a solution. I think, again, this sums up perfectly how Americans solve problems. It's like, well, I had to bungee cord the whale head to the roof and because i couldn't roll the windows up all the way so whale juice gets in the car and the solution rather than to maybe create some kind of seal like at the crack of the window like put the plastic bags like just right over the whale juice entry point put a plastic bag over your six-year-old daughter's head bag over your head and let the whale juice just flow into the fucking car like oh come the fuck on he also put the dead bear cub in the back of his minivan like this minivan must have been the worst smelling thing
Starting point is 00:38:40 on the planet oh my god yeah yeah It must have smelled worse than the circus. I think about when my friend's little brother puked in their minivan and you could be like, I could smell it for weeks. It's never going to smell normal again. It's always going to smell like baby puke in here. And then the whale juice?
Starting point is 00:39:00 That's supposed to be... You might as well just hose it down with whatever the uh deniro uses and heat you know when he's like done with the with the van exactly spray it down with that and light that shit because that that shit is under um
Starting point is 00:39:15 he also uh has said that he has a thousand cubic foot freezer that he keeps stocked full of roadkill meat um so again nothing to do with my brain worm nothing yeah right exactly like if you're wondering how he ended up with a parasite in his brain that has now become all of our problem he has a freezer full of roadkill meat yeah straight line to that well i wonder how oh okay
Starting point is 00:39:47 so yeah you know my dad's really into like skulls and shit that he just rips off of animals on the side of the road and takes home and then i guess cures them in our garage was he like trying to put a whale's head on his wall like as like a because it he's ostensibly like a big environmentalist guy i can't imagine that he has a lot of animal heads on his study wall but nah nah probably yeah nah not me not this guy uh yeah i'm an environmentalist when someone else beats me to getting the whale head and then i go you really shouldn't be doing that that's actually messed up dude that's just messed up dad do i have to keep the bags on yeah keep the bags on he might leave it i might be able to talk him out of it yeah yeah you should really really bad look for you man just leave that whale head let leave it be leave it be the inside of
Starting point is 00:40:40 that car like what a lynchian fucking waking nightmare of like two people with bags over their heads with like holes in the mouth and presumably the eyes as like a viscous like gray pink goo leaks into the windows like can you just i can't i can't i guess i can't imagine i think i'm like i want to put myself in the mind of someone that gives them the finger right like are you sure they weren't just like pointing at the whale head and being like whale juice is like getting all in your kids mouths you are drenched in whale juice um they're like no they were pointing at the roof not giving us the finger or you're just or you're probably just so disturbed by being like what the fuck is on top of that is that a fucking sawed off whale head we also have kids in our car they are fucking ruined now yeah
Starting point is 00:41:39 yeah from seeing you what is this anyway so the other thing that was wild was even rfk trying to like justify why he did it yeah when he's like yeah well i tried calling both people you're like are you a fucking you're yeah you are a loser i just want to play this because it's just like it's so like well i did my best and you know i i reached out to harris too okay uh-huh and interfering with our elections following my first discussion with president trump i tried unsuccessfully to open similar discussions with vice president harris vice president harris declined to meet or even to speak with me oh i wonder why i just pulled up with my sawed-off whale head on top of my minivan and said i need to speak with
Starting point is 00:42:25 the vice president and just the most horrendous public health takes possible like terrifying public health takes um yeah i like the idea that he's just like i i made the offer i went with the people who like were willing to talk to me is such a loser move. But like, because he's just been this creature of absolute privilege for his entire life. Like he,
Starting point is 00:42:54 I guess he doesn't like recognize that. Um, no, he's probably just like, you gotta just shop around for the best deal. No matter what morals don't exist, baby. It's only power.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I like that. Like, like people were talking about how like cheryl hines was saying like she'd get divorced from him if he like endorsed trump or like alluded to something like that in the past and now he's like she you know i've made it i've made it he's like i made a political decision that she's deeply uncomfortable with um but we're good here yeah oh boy trump happily accepted the endorsement and proclaimed that he will release all the remaining documents pertaining to the assassination of john f
Starting point is 00:43:30 kennedy if he's elected um but only as part of a proposed new commission on presidential assassination attempts which would include the one targeted that targeted him i just the idea i don't know i was a little worried that he was because we'll get to the jd vance thing because the rumors were also flying that kennedy was going to replace vance on the ticket um and i was worried because vance is one of the best things going for anybody who doesn't want trump to be the next president but like trump just being like oh yeah you're the guy whose uncle was assassinated yeah i'll release all the jfk files as president um is first of all why didn't you do that already when you were president already and uh second of all it's just like
Starting point is 00:44:17 kind of dismissive being like yeah oh yeah kennedy guy sure yeah um the clock's also taken on that like actually being able to um switch jd vance out i mean like the time he might not even be able to get kennedy off the ballot like in a bunch of places yeah exactly it's all it's all a fucking mess um yeah but hey we love but we love this we love to see see old whale head McBrain worms just spiraling and flailing and being like, well, I spoke to both. I tried to make this offer too. It's like, no, dude, your transactional bullshit is nonsense. I get the fuck out of here. I, but, and yet I am afraid of the idea of Trump bringing him on because JD VD. Vance is such, is just so bad
Starting point is 00:45:06 that we, I think the donut video came out since we last recorded. Yeah. Oh my God. The donut video. Let's just, we should just play, I mean, I'm sure people have heard of it, but there's like, this guy pulls up
Starting point is 00:45:21 to a donut shop and it's like he caught everyone in the shop off guard like so it felt like these people who worked at this donut shop were suddenly inundated with a bunch of white guys in suits and like cameras yeah and they're like what the fuck is going on he's like hi hi i'm jd van feels like they're talking to a cop and like word you know like the way that you're like when a cop is like trying to make small talk and you know like this could go like so badly for me that i could fucking die yeah exactly you're like what what are you trying to get at bro i know you're not talking to me because you you think i'm interesting as a fucking person so what's the
Starting point is 00:46:00 fucking do i fit the description of somebody did Did your bike go missing? Anyway, this is like a clip of him in this donut shop. Did your wife go missing? It's a bike, but yeah. He has big, his wife went missing energy. Yeah, just a guy. Have you guys seen my wife? What? All right.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Let me just get like a couple dozen of like your bestest flavor donuts whatever anyway this is him talking to people who actually work so she just says i don't want to be on film yeah and bravo to you miss yeah always know your fucking boundaries and know you do not have to be some kind of fucking set dressing for this video and he goes i'm sorry ma'am and she says i don't want to be on film she doesn't want to be on film guys so just cut her out of anything that is that's my favorite part that's the part that my name is jd v Vance and running for vice president. Okay. That's my favorite part. That's the part. My name is J.D. Vance.
Starting point is 00:47:07 I'm running for vice president. Okay. What the fuck do you want, dude? What do you want from me? You think I give a fuck? The best part, then you go, how long have you been working here? What about you? He just keeps peppering people with questions about how long
Starting point is 00:47:23 they've been working there, which is... Okay, good. Okay, good. And they're like, what do you want? He's like a fucking alien. He's like, just fucking everything. Yeah, he says, we'll do everything. She's like a fucking alien. He's like, ugh, just fucking everything. Yeah, he says, we'll do everything. She's like, everything?
Starting point is 00:47:49 He's like looking at the donuts in the case in front of him and just like starts naming them. He's like, just everything. I mean, a lot of glazed here. A lot of glazed here? Some sprinkled stuff? Some of these cinnamon rolls? And then my favorite, i feel like this is
Starting point is 00:48:07 the i i just know so many people who talk like this just whatever makes sense yeah whatever makes sense no that's whatever makes sense in terms of the donuts i'm sorry motherfucker this is not a like a kaiseki japanese omakase type thing where you're just like hey man i trust you baby right i give it up to the fucking chef no you're just like let these people fucking get on with their day and leave them out of your fucking nonsense feels like somebody who has never interacted with another human being except as a paid consultant you know right like he's just used to being able to just come into a room and be like yeah i don't know man just whatever makes sense like and like the most you you speak to someone like in any service capacity is when you speak to like a server at a restaurant like
Starting point is 00:48:55 i bet even he's never even been to a donut shop because he could be like he can just summon donuts you know and be like can we get some donuts in here yeah why don't you go out get some donut can we get some blah blah blah and then it shows up and then now you're in that position you're like uh just whatever makes sense man uh okay i guess can i get some of those paper towels back there what no man those are for us to keep our hands what do you mean you need paper towels yeah sure and like uh that i guess what that? Gojo soap that you guys use? Yeah, that too. Some of that.
Starting point is 00:49:29 We got Gojo soap. We got like a dirty yellow bucket with like a mop sticking out of it. Now, that's cool. That Gojo. I've never seen that. Where do you get that? It's like, I guess, mostly in commercial settings you see this or workplaces. Nice.
Starting point is 00:49:42 That's cool. It's got the star on there. Like the star of David. We're staunch allies of israel what um how did you he he also just has that uh desantis energy where like they keep putting him around junk food despite the fact that he's like uncomfortable with sugar and can't. When he's like, we'll get two dozen? He says it like it's a punchline to a joke. He can't believe he's
Starting point is 00:50:12 saying it and then doesn't know the name of donuts. I mean, a lot of glazed here, some sprinkled stuff, some of these cinnamon rolls, just whatever makes sense. You've passed the test you are not an android yeah they've they did the thing from blade runner on you some of the sprinkled
Starting point is 00:50:32 stuff and uh cinnamon roll thank you people are now uh there's a polling guy edin germantum is like kind of a left-wing polling uh expert who has been making the case since the Vance pick that he's the worst VP pick, but he went through and compared him to every pick in modern history and is like, no, Vance is the worst.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Palin is the one that everybody points to and became a flop in retrospect but sucked up all the oxygen in the room and like he you actually could see what he was thinking whereas like trump didn't need to do get like five picks that made more sense for him than vance but like he would he was just already beyond the election of it all he was just like all right how who's gonna help me like go full authoritarian fascism on this yeah and he's like oh i'll get the silicon valley money with jd and get their buy-in with jd even
Starting point is 00:51:41 like derg bergrum would have even been better. I mean like honestly a cardboard cutout of fucking Hitler probably would pull better than actual JD Vance. And yeah I just feel like there's something like both how bad strategically the
Starting point is 00:51:59 pick is looking right now and also like he was the thing that there was he made the pick like the day after the assassination attempt like first day of the Republican National Convention and it was the first time like I remember we were talking
Starting point is 00:52:16 about it and we were like wait that's like a really bad move right? Is there a chance he's going to like fuck this up? And since then it's just been kind of all bad news for him he did he did hey man he did always listen to your coked out kids yeah they've got good ideas man um let's take a quick break and we'll be back with more news. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and
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Starting point is 00:57:54 It has been confirmed that the Boeing Starliner will be returning to Earth without its crew because it's too fucked up. The two astronauts currently stuck on the international space station will remain stuck up there until february 2025 oh my god oh that's the i remember it was either that or they come like that they would come back with the net like the crew that's on there they'll come back on the next one yes with the crew that's on there uh in february 2025 how long would they have been in space for
Starting point is 00:58:25 is it okay can you be in space that long it's yeah i mean people i think the record is like a year but again they were not they were planning to be up there for a week um so you actually don't know the record i just know that the record is like more than this um but it's such a bad look it's a bad look for them, and also the fact that SpaceX can only get around to helping them out in eight months. I thought, I think the way the media was covering SpaceX,
Starting point is 00:58:54 it was like, yeah, they're just popping up to the ISS, no big deal, every other week. So, yeah, I don't know. Good for them. I mean, freaky. I don't know. I i mean freaky i don't know like this is like i know i'm sure obviously you're an astronaut so you're comfortable but as a lay ground person earthling i'm like dude what i'm like if someone's like yo bro we're gonna have to come get you in about
Starting point is 00:59:19 what was that fucking four was like six months hey man can you can you kick it there till february what till february february what the fuck bro what's going on hey man there's a lot of arguing going on down here so yeah yeah it is it sucks i think their record i'm just seeing is 437 continuous days in space by valerie polyakov yeah russia doesn't give a fuck they'll go for that record you know oh yeah yeah he came back with with the space loonies medical term it is just wild though like you know everyone loves privatization and deregulation in the United States and we get private space travel involved in the mix and now we
Starting point is 01:00:10 have just like weird shit like this where it's just a bunch of corporations like if Apollo 13 were made today it would be Tom Hanks being jerked around by like very like most of the movie would be like corporate board meetings where they're talking about ideas you're talking
Starting point is 01:00:25 about like the optics of bringing them back and right yeah i'd imagine yeah if like you know nasa had robust budgets it the problem could be addressed sooner no am i off there because i just know every time i read about nasa it's like budgets are just going down and down and down and down and we and down and down and we and all that money is being shifted to like spacex or fucking boeing spacex got it we're good here all right uh it does feel like the republicans are attempting to do some damage control by pretending that they don't have the politics that they have right um trump would like over the weekend he was bragging that his administration will be great for women and their reproductive
Starting point is 01:01:11 rights and that the republican party is charging forward on many fronts and i am very proud that we are a leader on ivf oh hey that's like specifically the thing that was revealed. It's also wild. Even for messaging, when you know we know you aren't good for you, that they couldn't even just say that until now. We're going to be great for women. You're not.
Starting point is 01:01:39 You're not. You never were and never will be. And then, to that end, J.D. Vance is also out here doing damage control. I mean, the other thing, too, is Kamala Harris, it looks like now, has opened up a seven-point national lead in polling. And places like Georgia and North Carolina are becoming real possibilities of being a get for that.
Starting point is 01:02:00 And so while all that's happening, you have Trump who, according to former aides and just like what we've seen is retreating more and more and more and less and less engaged. Like they're like, dude, all this dude, this dude is just playing golf and watching Fox news and getting angry at the TV.
Starting point is 01:02:15 And they're like, he's truly like his presidency. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. But they're like,
Starting point is 01:02:20 he's not, he doesn't even, he can't even get out of not even first gear. He's still in park, bro. He's not even in fucking, the ignition is off. But luckily, he does have JD Vance to help sort of pull the carcass over the line and say things like this. When he was on Meet the Press on Sunday and basically was like, oh, national abortion ban? Oh, no, we don't.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Oh, no, no, no, no. We don't like that at all. I'm just going to play this. This is when Kristen Welker is asking him this question. And his answer is a real, not head scratcher, but holy shit. Democrats made the case this week and beyond this week that Donald Trump, if elected, will impose a federal ban on abortion if he wins. Now, Donald Trump says he won't.
Starting point is 01:03:06 But can you commit, Senator, sitting right here with me today, that if you and Donald Trump are elected, that you will not impose a federal ban on abortion? I can absolutely commit that, Kristen. Donald Trump has been as clear about that as possible. I think it's important to step back and say, what does Donald Trump actually said on the abortion question? I mean, he said you know he's for a 20-week ban he's for a 15-week ban yeah he's very he said that abortion is the killing of babies after they're born he doesn't democrats are murdering them after birth uh needs to end i don't know that that's that's the stuff i can kind of remember just off of the top of my
Starting point is 01:03:42 literal dome right now and not even getting a third of the way through but it's just a man these people again especially jd vance like is on record advocating for every kind of abortion ban imaginable and their entire evangelical base like demands that this be part of the party platform i think it's important that we take a step back and just uh cherry like three random sentence fragments uh that misconstrue what donald trump says about abortion yeah exactly and thank you for giving me the opportunity to create a headline which says donald trump will veto federal abortion ban and hopefully people will just read a headline and then move on with their day um because let's remind ourselves that there's not a single example and i'll just i'll narrow the window just from the time most of us can remember in the last 10 years where a conservative running
Starting point is 01:04:32 for office or a supreme court seat was saying i promise that i will protect abortion rights and then they actually did that right it's kind of their thing to say no whatever the fuck they want they are yeah they are the party like all politicians just haven't got your little fingies crossed behind your back and go yeah we'll probably promise we promise and this has been like a pivot that they've done because they knew how bad of a fucking issue like how bad they're losing on this issue is to be like well we really just think it's like a state's rights thing you know so like california they have one that's what jd vance goes is to be like, well, we really just think it's a state's rights thing. So if California, they have one, that's what J.D. Vance goes on to say, they have one
Starting point is 01:05:07 culture that they want to do and they want to protect, then that's their right to do that. But if another state feels that that's not right for their people, then we're just going to let them decide. Which is absolute chicken shit nonsense because that doesn't mean every person in every state is unanimous on what rights they want or don't.
Starting point is 01:05:24 But yeah, thank you for that. And also, fucking shame on MSNBC to just fucking air that shit because it's all I'm seeing is like there's obviously been a rebuttal to this and a lot of people are pointing out that it's horseshit, but it has, like, you are
Starting point is 01:05:39 seeing the sort of headlines that if you are being completely uncritical, mouth wide open and go oh wow trump said he's oh i guess he's softening a little portion which is what most like some people are stupid enough to believe that but most people just want to hear the words see the words on paper to make them feel good enough to vote for them this is what they do on both sides but this is very much uh an example right now for them to be like no no not not that extreme other extreme yeah yeah it's up it's up to it's up to the men who run the state you're in
Starting point is 01:06:10 that's right all right uh we are 15 days away from the second presidential election debate um the first featuring the actual candidates who will be on the ballot this november um and now it seems like it may not happen after all i mean this was this was a speculation in the lead up to the one that changed everything where biden just had his mouth open for most of the debate and kind of looked like he was mid pantshitting um but it's like i remember before that one we were like trump's gonna back out he does seem to like to keep that speculation in the air yeah you could see why he ended up doing it though because he was like my favorite my favorite opponent to push around joe biden and now that it's changed it i don't know well It's hard to know. Because probably in his mind, he's like, I should do it, and I'll be completely unhinged up there.
Starting point is 01:07:09 And that'll help. Or not. I don't know. Yeah. So on Sunday night, he posted about ABC fake news. He's still doing the fake news thing. Because they said something he didn't like during ABC's This Week. They were just drawing attention to the shit he had said about like uh the medal of honor and how just uh quoting
Starting point is 01:07:32 him and then he's like they've got a panel of trump haters like i don't know dude these are they're literally playing clips of you talking yeah he said why would i do the debate against kamala harris onala Harris on that network? But another issue, and it seems like this is the one that is actually hindering things behind the scenes, has to do with negotiations between the two campaigns concerning the debate rules and specifically the microphones. So the mics are usually left off during debates uh biden's team specifically negotiated for the candidates mics to be turned off when they aren't speaking out of fears of like being interrupted by trump that seemed to be his strategy in the biden debates in 2020 like just kind of talking over him and just never stopping uh and I mean, he seemed like pretty unhinged.
Starting point is 01:08:25 I don't think any of those debates went well for Trump, but I think also they were like, our guy energetically, it allowed him to just be there. Yeah. I think that's the only thing people respond to. They probably had some sense that like Biden, not great with distractions at this point.
Starting point is 01:08:41 He's not great at staying on top. It was crazy when I didn't know Trump could juggle to throw biden off he goes hey what about this joe but so now harris's team wants biden's no mic during the while the other person's speaking uh scrapped she wants the hot mic she wants both mics left on uh because as her campaign has admitted they think Trump won't be able to keep his shit together they even suggested that Trump's handlers are hiding these negotiations from him
Starting point is 01:09:13 because they don't want to admit that they don't think their candidate can act presidential for 90 minutes on his own well no lies detected no inaccuracies detected there. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:27 I mean, he's like, if I don't show, I think the Harris campaign is like, well, we'll be there. So it'll just be like a free show for the Harris-Walls campaign. The hot mic thing. I mean, God. He doesn't seem like he's at his sharpest miles no he's no few weeks he doesn't that's why it's like yeah man just just fucking yeah just burn upon burn up on re-entry man like just fucking just go for it just just hey man as eminem says just fucking lose yourself bro oh man you know what i mean you only get one shot this is it there's almost no
Starting point is 01:10:05 way that he doesn't play that song to get himself pumped up before oh my god yeah i don't think it's probably you know knowing his musical taste yeah probably not he's probably just playing phantom of the opera jd dance is definitely playing that though or some like fucking third reich like brass march type thing he's like oh I love Wagner makes you feel real powerful or maybe Charlie XCX who knows yeah Trump is so brat those are some of the things that
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