The Daily Zeitgeist - Bongs For Boomers! Failed Artist - FEMA Edition 06.04.25

Episode Date: June 4, 2025

In episode 1874, Jack and Miles are joined by co-host of 420 Day Fiancé, Sofiya Alexandra, to discuss… Trump Got A Burner, Pass The Bong Boomer! FEMA Head’s Hurricane Gaffe Isn’t Nearly As Bad As His Art and more! Trump Got A Burner Pass The Bong Boomer! Acting FEMA Chief Told Staff He Didn’t Know About U.S. Hurricane Season No hurricane season? Acting FEMA chief’s remark was a joke, DHS says. New FEMA head tells staff: "Don't get in my way… I will run right over you" NEW — I’ve obtained audio of new acting FEMA head David Richardson threatening staff in an all hands meeting this morning. You can own this painting of AOC dressed as Che Guevara for a hefty price The New Acting Administrator of FEMA Wrote a Novel. It’s Not Good. LISTEN: Wu Punk by Georgia Anne MuldrowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I Do that every fucking break miles is just like Jesus Christ stop it, but I can't stop myself. I can't stop myself No, I don't I don't I don't care. I'd be annoyed Well, that's something for you to work out, honey To work honey, it's not coming for me. You just got honey. It's not coming for me, babe, sweetie You just got babe, sweetie. I just had therapy yesterday. You just got honey. It's not coming from me, babe. Sweetie, you just got babe. Sweetie. I just had therapy yesterday.

You just got sweetie. I just had therapy, babe. I still got my post-therapy glow, babe. You are fucking glowing. Thank you, babe. Yes. He's babed you so much. You must feel really bad about yourself.

Babed you. Stop babing me, motherfucker. When somebody gives me good psychological advice, I'm so mad because they've defeated me at that time. Don't give me usable advice. What, do you think you're better than me? No, oh my god. You are demonstratively better than me now and that's pissing me off so much. Why the fuck did you give me that shred of self-awareness?

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Don't compare the downloads. That's not relevant. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No forget about that No, don't compare that he was like and I think we just did good work. Don't compare the downloads. That's not relevant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, forget about that. Don't compare that. He was like, and I think we just did good work. Don't compare the good work. Don't compare the good work. I think ratedness versus the second rate is just look straight at the data. There's just the bad bitch. Oh, damn. Dale, one thousand eight hundred seventy four episodes, according to many.

Many are saying we've had one thousand eight 1,874 episodes, which is at least as many as Marc Maron has had. I actually don't know. Amazing. Did you actually know January 1st, 1874, the New York City annexed the Bronx? I just looked up the historical facts about 1874 in the US. Hey, hey, the Philly Zoo opens the first public zoo in the US. Guys, this is fucking- Finally, a fact I can use. Guys, it's Kizbe.

We were just talking about how cool zoos are. Yeah. Why are we not talking about that? Invest in a zoo. You know, they have these like miniature libraries and neighborhoods. I think we should open miniature zoos. Exactly.

I think everybody should have a little zoo in their front yard. And we're in the thick of reconstruction too in 1874. Thick. And I didn't think. My name is Jack O'Brien, AKA free your mind when you're at Del Taco. Be color blind, hot sauce might be yellow.

That one courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi main in reference to my complaints about the design of the Del Taco Hot sauce packets the coloring Sophia Who I have not introduced yet. Is this your 6.8 weeks? This might be Jack's 6.8 weeks. If I tell you that there are hot sauce packets of increasing heat that are colored red, orange, black, what order would you place those on? Orange, red, black.

Will be least to big. Thank you, that is the correct answer. Wrong. Incorrect. I'm sorry. They got black in the middle for no reason, I believe. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Black in the middle for no reason. Yeah, I believe I'm sorry black in the middle Yeah, my suggested that it's there they They're going the chart habanero is

Gas fishing us right now Lighting us and I hate it Thrilled to be joined as always by my co-hosts. This is my oh shit So, oh, yeah, it's me aka I was Something else to wipe my butt with fake. Sharman. Don't rub me, right? Oh, yeah, it's me aka I was To wipe my butt with fake Charmin don't rub me right, baby, baby I'm not wiping with great by on my Shut up snarf you love yeah, I'm still use look I

Received a bunch of cheap ass toilet paper when the house burned down people like you need toilet paper Someone dropped off a military grade toilet paper in that it's so thin It's violence and I've been balling it up Like they don't know the trauma like like my friend's house burned down. I know. I know you're so hard on us. So it's been so hard. Eric co-hosts house burned down miles. I can't even now. I'm actually fucking sandwiched by the two people that regularly had it the hardest co-opt my tragedy. Wow. That's like really insensitive when like this happened to like my friend who's house burned down.

It's me! That boy was me! I know. I know. So you more than anyone should know what I'm going through. So that is helpful information to know that when you've been saying you're balling out of control for the past couple weeks, you're just balling, you're referencing, you're wiping. Yeah. I was just wrapping it around my fists like fucking John Todd Van Damme. It is out of control at this point. We need help. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined by one of our very favorite guests, the talented writer and stand-up comedian who co-hosts

the great 90 Day Fiancé podcast, 420 Day Fiancé. Holy shit. With some guy named Miles Gray. That's so weird. That is so weird. There's no way there's another fucking guy named Miles Gray. What are the chances, dude? This is fucking me up, dude.

First the fire, now the other people with my very simple worded name. Very name. It is the hilarious, the talented, Sophia Alexandra. Sophia. I'm so happy to be here. I love you guys. Oh, wow. Thank you.

We love you. And how are you doing with everything going on with your friends' house burning down? It's actually been really hard on me. Thank you so much. Yeah, yeah. You're brave. You're brave. Yeah, I really am.

It's like a lot of people would probably have like pieced out by now because like, wow, that's a lot of trauma to happen to someone I know. So much trauma Obama. It just dropped off huge pallets of uncomfortable toilet paper and we're like, my job here is done. Yeah. Cracking knuckles.

Yeah. All right. That's such a great example of somebody's like just bad intentions or like good intentions poorly executed. Yeah. All right. That's such a great example of somebody's just bad intentions, poor or good intentions poorly executed. Yeah. Just being like, you're actually hurting more than you're helping. Yeah.

It's literally the can drive of experiences. Right. Because it's like no one wants the fucking expired cans you're bringing. No one wants that shit. Yeah. If you bring the stuff you would want to eat? Not fucking green beans from 1872. I got a whole case of novelty Trump toilet paper

from the first administration too. Someone's like, you're going to love this, man. I don't know, man. I think it's pretty fun. Well, Sophia, we're thrilled to have you. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the people a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about how Donald Trump gets to have a burner phone. He's just constantly on the phone.

He, his phone time is out of control. You guys need to talk about Donald's phone time. It is out of control and nobody's stopping him. And he's just getting calls from anyone. His number is out there. We can call the president. If you know how to use the internet. I'm sorry, I have one quick question.

I just have one quick question. What about the emails though? Her emails. We'll get there. We'll get to that. Okay, just thank you. We'll get to that. Yeah, if you know how to use the internet,

you can call the president and he will say, who's calling? Who's this? Literally, he answers the phone, who's calling? And he answers every- I don't think it's like that. I think he's like, who's calling? I don't know. It feels like it's- I like to think of him as like a little boy who would always race to the phone when his granddad was- And be like, I've got it. Who's calling? Yeah. It's for you, daddy. It's his favorite thing next to pushing the elevator button. Yeah, exactly.

We let him push the elevator button and do phones. Let him answer the phone and go. He stays pretty calm. As long as you're polite. Very few temper tantrums. Anyways, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about how bloomers are getting the high. Getting high.

Generally how things are going for the Trump administration. We're going to talk about the new FEMA head who just seems like- What's up with hurricanes though? That's like a myth, right? Yeah. What would a hurricane see- It was a joke. So he is, I think he did know what it was, but he just is one of those people who doesn't

know like, is just trying to make a joke for him, is like trying to speak in a foreign language. He's just like trying to vibe out like we were talking about. You know? And so he did a joke by being like, I said a thing that wasn't true. And that's the best case scenario. But it's because he's actually an artist at heart.

Why are they all fucking failed painters? God damn it. Painters. Can I say that if we didn't learn that lesson with Hitler, like, I don't know when we're going to learn it or never. Like if it's a failed painter, like put them to the side. They can all run shit. Okay.

George Bush, you killed like a million people. What about you? Yeah. Uh, also a failed painter. People are going to be like folks. They're going to be like, Oh, isn't going to be like, isn't that quaint? After the fact. Yeah, he got the bug after killing the millions of people.

He was like, what do other people who kill millions of people? It puts you in some type of mood where you're like, maybe I'll paint my dog now. That's what's going to cap off this reign of terror. I just stick with an iPad coloring book. Sophia, to your point, I think what you were suggesting that art school applications, people who get in,

get in and people who don't get in are just sent to a pit somewhere. I think that's a good suggestion that we should take seriously. I'm glad you suggested it. Yeah, I'm really glad that I said it first to a pit to a pit somewhere. That is so specific Night Rises But before we get to any remember what happens after the pit, right? That's not a good plan. Oh, yeah That is true. He comes out as Bane, right? You can't do that. Then you're creating a bunch of school Baines Oh, yeah, Baneaine got born in the pit.

He was born in the dark. That is in no way a metaphor. It's just he's like, I was literally born in that pit, bro. That was like I was born there. I have literally never seen sunlight. This is not a metaphor. This is a Christopher Nolan movie. There's no metaphors. I was born in the literal darkness that you're referring to.

I should really wear a hat or sunscreen. My skin is not used to the sun. It's really burning. I wish I had sunglasses. I'm crying right now. Before we get to any of it, Sophia, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

Okay, so I looked this up because my local Bookstore was selling this like special collection of these of this music and I was like this is so interesting because I don't know who this is So I looked it up. I'm gonna butcher the name because i'm not french yet, but it's les So I looked it up. I'm gonna butcher the name because I'm not French yet, but it's Les Raleyser des Nudez. And it is the fuzz feedback and folklore, basically the article I read on NPR was called the fuzz feedback and folklore of Japanese psych rockers. Les Raleyser des Nudez.

Oh, they're like the Japanese band with the French name? I've heard of them. Yes. And I guess their whole thing is they tried to record an album one time and they like hated it. And so from then on, they were like, we're just going to like not do studio shit. It'll just be live shit. So all of their stuff is just live performances and a bunch of it has been like bootlegged and put together and whatever.

So it's just kind of fascinating and I didn't know anything about them. So I looked them up. Wow. Okay. Shit. So all live. It's just fascinating and I didn't know anything about them. I looked them up. Wow. Okay. So all live, it's just all live recordings, all live albums. That's an interesting way to go about things. I've never heard or thought of that idea. They were just like, yeah, that's not for us.

I'm like, you know yourself, how did you do that? I'm like, if all of us had that kind of fucking self realization where I'm like There would be like at least 70% fewer comedians, you know Like all this life shit is not for me. Yeah, no I gotta keep trying mark Marin told me I have to keep trying I need to get my 10,000 hours of stand-up in, and then I'll magically be good. Yeah, exactly.

Even though I wasn't good the whole way along. That was not funny ever. Yeah. It's like a reverse The Beatles. The Beatles were studio only. Right. They were a reverse Miles and me. Yeah. As of late.

Late career studio only. Just want to say my local bookstore is Skylight Books. If you become a friend of the store, you get like 20% off. So instead of ordering shit from Amazon, you could order it from them. Boom. The shit you have to do to become a friend of the Skylight bookstore, fucking dirty.

You have to catch three bodies. I'm not going to tell you what friends forever, which is the status that I have across me. I can't. I live in a city. You want to what friends forever, which is the status. I can't You want to be friends forever? Oh We got another one. I can't even tell you what happened, but I'm just gonna like say that it's like see or gish, right? It's like close your eyes and put your hand up. Okay. Wait, is this a gun? Yep, and there's 14 bodies on it and now you're in the club. Guess what? Is this a gun? Yep. And there's 14 bodies on it. And now you're in the club.

Guess what? We're friends forever. Friends forever. Friends forever. And they put a little sticker on your cheek. They're like, boop. It's a tattoo. What is something you think is underrated? Okay. Taking classes as an adult

without necessarily pursuing a degree. an adult without necessarily pursuing a degree. I think that learning is really dope and I am a nerd at heart and I love a structured environment where I have a teacher and classmates. And so I've been taking writing classes on Zoom because I decided to design kind of my own mini MFA program. So I just found like on different websites, like writing workshops and through like writers I follow when they teach and I kind of have been taking classes and it feels really great. And I keep announcing that I'm going to class to know one all the time.

I'll just go. Sorry babe, going to class. I gotta go. I'm going to class. And I like, well, like mime a backpack, but I'm just walking to my office to be on Zoom. I really like it and I like having classmates and I like having group chats with your new classmates.

And I like learning about people's lives and I like learning new skills. And I think that if you have been on the fence about taking a class, you should absolutely do it. Community college, Zoom, whatever. I mean, what a joy. Yeah, because I remember in the height of lockdowns, a lot of places were just offering full courses in video form that you could just mess just mess around with and just see if if you want to take a lecture at Have it or something

Yeah, just having to two two and a half hours a week where I like I'm in class and I have to like pay attention to other people's like Work and be really detailed and just learn stuff. It does something really good for you. I never thought of yeah I never thought about recording for 20 Day Fiancé like that, but yeah. Just being open-minded, seeing people through other people's eyes, really taking detailed notes, then sharing them with your class. Yes, exactly. I in a way, I'm also taking MFA courses.

We're all doing it. It's such a good idea. How did you, like, what was the first step you took to, like, start taking classes? Because I feel like I would like to do this and just have not. So, Chloe Caldwell, who's one of my favorite writers and now a good friend, I follow her on Instagram and she was posting, hey, I'm starting this class. This is the name of it. This is, you know, how many days?

This is the cost. And then I emailed her and know, how many days, this is the cost. And then I emailed her and I was like, okay, I want to take that class. And then that kind of got me rolling. And I've done like workshops too, which are just like a week or a weekend or something. If I can't commit to like, you know, a six week class. So yeah, that's how I started. And then once you kind of are, you know, in the world of it, it's so much easier to find other stuff.

And I highly recommend writingworkshops.com. I do not work for them. I just like writing workshops. Nice. So anyway, do it. Anyways, do it. Do it, I will. What's something you think is overrated?

Dressing your age, quote unquote. And I say that Because there's a lot of people that will say that kind of shit But then also other people will be like I thought you were way younger than you are so i'm like Um, if I gave a fuck about what anybody thought I would have like a much sadder life And I just want to say that there is no dressing your age, quote unquote, everyone you think is high is hot.

And they're like way and it's like period. Yeah. So it's all about like how swaggy you feel and what you're doing. No one can be like, well, a skirt has to be above below your knees because you're over 40 or whatever the fuck. Like, do not listen to that garbage. That's like pink barrettes in your hair. It does not matter how fucking old you are. Like, people need to settle down with that.

When people say that, they're telling on themselves that they have absolutely no swag. No drip. No personality. No, they've not, they don't know how to represent their being. Broken ass coffee maker, no drip. Thanks. Woooow.

Wee. Thank you. You should say that to them the next time they say it to you. And they're like, you should use- Broken ass coffee maker no drip You should say that to them the next time they say it and they're like that's a good one No, no one would ever say it to me Yeah, yeah, I don't give off like I accept constructive criticism from strangers Where I guess non constructiveconstructive, but yeah. I'll get hostile if I need to. Yeah. Just wear the shit that makes you feel good and comfortable and that's it. Because I've been toying with this look that's like a hat with a spinny thing on it and a big lollipop.

And Miles has been like, it's not ideal. It's not perfect for you. I didn't say dress your age. I just said it's infantilizing. Yeah, yeah. That's right. And if you're fine with that, if that's your vibe, like if that's the vibe you put out, then go ahead, man. If you're feeling like Baby Jack, fucking Baby Jack it up.

Yeah, Baby Jack's cooking up nums. I actually think it looks cool. Okay. I don't know why everybody has to say it's baby stuff. Or my catchphrase, wowee zowee is- Yo, can- My favorite short. Can one of the-

This is just my favorite short. Can one of the Zeit Gang please draw Jack wearing a spinny beanie and sucking on a large lollipop? But you have to draw it. Don't let AI do it. No AI. No AI, regular human hands. If you do it. I mean, that can be as good or bad as you need to draw it. Don't let AI do it. No AI. You have to draw it. No AI. Regular human hands. If you do it. I mean, that can be as good or bad as you need it to be. Just don't let it do that AI. I'll take a stick figure. I don't care.

Yeah. Anyways, I think good advice. Great underrated, great overrated. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk about the news. We'll be right back. Have you ever thought about going voiceover? I'm Hope Woodard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation. To most people, I'm the girl behind voiceover, the movement that exploded in 2024. Voiceover is about understanding yourself outside of sex and relationships. It's more than personal, it's political, it's societal, and at times it's far from what I originally intended it to be. These days, I'm interested in expanding what it means to be voiceover, to make it customizable for anyone who feels the need to explore their relationship to relationships.

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In my mind, it was, oh, so you're better than me. You think you're better than me. That was a subtext there. there the thing that never doesn't make sense about that anecdote is You hadn't seen anger management Understand that's narrative as like You are You know selfish need to like have your taste validated, but you hadn't seen I didn't like the idea of Someone disrespect be like I'm off this

Sandman fan like is that were you just like no Better than I was such a teenage mess, dude If fucking my brain was so fucked up from like puberty not knowing myself like My brain was so fucked up from puberty, not knowing myself, ambient racism, my parents splitting up. I'm sorry, ambient racism? Yeah, my favorite band. They're amazing, they're headlining Coachella. I know, it's your favorite band.

I know, you've got it tatted. Yeah, so what? It's on my stomach, Tupac style, so what? So what? Ambient racism. Ambient racism tattooed around my gun wound. It was really hard to fit it around my belly button. Like it was really fucking hard.

Yeah, it was. Because it's a lot of- The type was so tiny. It's a lot of fucking letters, okay. Oh shit. People can't tell what it says. It hurts. It hurts. It just looks like I did a black arc.

Yeah. It's like I messed up a rainbow. That's what it looks like. But it says ambient racism if you look closely. But the bottom line is the letters way out because I have a fucking huge belly but huge belly button thing is like a dinner plate down there. Cavernous cavernous belly button, the dinner plate navel. Cavernous BB. All right.

Yeah, I've seen you eat ramen out of it. On his back. Is it just the night? Just the right, yeah, you're on your back. You just sit there. It's right there, why dirty a plate? His college girlfriend got alcohol poisoning from doing a body shot from his belly button.

Too much. That's not a shot glass. That's not a shot glass, babe. Keep going. I just did seven big gulps. Keep going. You're like halfway there. I remember when you almost died because he used it as a measuring cup for an Ikewell. I just saw a picture of a woodpecker's tongue that it like wraps all the way around their brain to protect their brain from the repeated CTE that they're giving themselves. But self-care woodpeckers, that's all I'm saying.

But that's how my belly button is, is just like a series of like caverns that like twists and turns inside my body. It's never ending. Yeah. I mean, sometimes I know when Miles is on vacation, he's spelunking down there. That's what he was. And I love that. He says he's in Italy, but we all know the truth. People don't know yet. They're like, oh my God, if people only knew what I was actually up to down there. I mean guys, Jack's whole, nevermind. I can't even begin to. There's a place down South that has the echoes of the gods ringing through it. Okay.

All right. This episode is completely off the rails. Which is what we're trying to talk about. We were talking about Trump got burner. Yeah, he got burner. There was an Atlantic article back in April where they were like, we scheduled an interview with Trump for weeks, did the thing you always do where you send it to the administration, they clear you, everything had gone according to plan,

and then somebody within the administration was like, they're not nice to you. And so he like started tweeting about how they were, they were mean to, they were like, they had never written a fair article about me and it was unceremoniously canceled. And so they, they pivoted and just called his ass because you can like find his phone number on the internet. Wait, hold on. What does that mean? Even though I didn't read the article, how did they find his phone?

And how come we don't have this fucking thing? So they were pretty opaque about that. They said that like, we'll just say the White House staff has not been super but good about making it keeping the phone number out of people's hands. Oh, my God. So they just called calling. Is it so delicious when you're like, I I'm gonna drain the swamp and just put all incompetence in charge Who's calling the president the United States asked according to the magazine and then they just

Did a like hours long? Conversation with him and this is apparent which that that was the thing that like stuck out to me. I was like, how the fuck does he use, like he, he just spent hours talking to these people, like after they called him unplanned, unprovoked, the president of the United States, he was just like at his golf club. And I was like, yeah, I know who you are. You're not very fair to me. But then just like, they were like, gave him a chance to brag about himself

and he couldn't resist. Let's start from the beginning. It's just fun to know that the American president does not have anything to do at all. Exactly. He's like, I could not have any problems that I could think of to solve. I'm just going to go ahead and take this stranger's call for two hours. Also should be that that detail alone should actually be the most frightening thing for

American people because it's all these other fucking pieces of shit that are doing all the day to day decision making. That's also the thing that came out in that Joe Biden book that people don't really talk about was this moment where the whole immigration, like Biden didn't know what to do about immigration because he had no way to like, he was bad at mediating the internal fights within the administration. Harris. Yeah. So there was nothing happening and they're like, what else? So what else was happening like that?

Or he's like, I don't know. You guys handle it. And here we are. Yeah. So it sounds similar. I remember the Obama like Blackberry thing, but I didn't realize like he was adamant, he was like, I'm keeping my Blackberry. They were like, you can't.

And so he worked with the NSA to create a Blackberry that like, didn't have various. Like, like you couldn't forward an email that he sent you and only like eight people had access to it It was very much like fine. Just give him a fucking toy. Yeah, right, right Well, they were like we're gonna encrypt the shit out of this Yeah, like the shit. Yeah, so your phone is not just like completely vulnerable and available for like the easiest of hacking Yeah, and so he eventually Trump went to the 7-Eleven. Yes.

No, Trump has been less persuadable by reason from the article. So the Atlantic was just like, so let's do a deeper dive into this secret cell phone that we were able to use to call him. From the article, it says, advisors tried to break his habit, but Trump either didn't understand or didn't care. In Trump's second term, his advisors have given up trying to restrict his phone use. He calls people nonstop. Trump's campaign advisor, Chris LaCivita,

said in an interview with Politico during the Republican National Convention last year, I don't worry about it because what are you going to do? Take his phone? Change his phone number? Tell him he can't make phone calls? Yeah. It's like, yeah, yes to all of those calls. Yeah. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Yeah, exactly.

No, yeah, correct. It's it's it just sounds like people who, you know, are like scared of their kid being like, I don't know, what am I going to do? Take away his phone. Trump Trump went when people were like, this is a major security risk. He'd say it's not true. My phone is the best on the market. The market?

It was just like an iPhone that he has. He'd be like, I paid the most for the iPhone. That ain't even a pro. That's the regular iPhone. The best on the market. Why is your screen cracked? Yeah. Damn. Is that why your thumbs are all cut up and shit? I like to swipe to text.

It does a hell of a job on my fingertips. The first time Trump's team truly understood, also from this article about the history of his private line, the first time they understood he would have a different relationship with his cell phone than did presidents past was election night 2016, the eve of his improbable victory. He was answering every phone call the outside advisor marveled to us nearly a decade later, noting that none of the numbers was in Trump's contacts. He just answers the phone. He doesn't want to miss phone calls. He's just stray numbers

that aren't contacts. He's and like there's an anecdote in there where the Dilbert guy is like, I just got a random phone call from Florida. And he called me left a voicemail. Did that guy die? He's I think on his way out. Or he has terminal cancer. He has the same thing Biden has. And I think that's why Trump was calling him actually was to be like,

Hey, anything I can do for you. But then like, he, he like called it. He's like, I can't believe that shit just happened. That's a Trump voicemail. Then like two hours Trump called it back. He was like wait, are you like busy? No, I'm good. I'm good. Why are you busy? Yeah, you call you back. I'll call you back It would like an hour. He's just spending his whole day Talking on the phone like a fucking teenage girl in 1992

Yeah, like that's what he does one of the numbers he's calling the Cory hotline whole day talking on the phone like a fucking teenage girl in 1992. Yeah. Like that's what he does. One of the numbers he's calling the Corey hotline. I don't think that you should drag teenage girls into this because- No, they were doing important work on their phones. It's very fun to imagine that he's so, not to imagine but to know that he's so insecure. And so badly needs attention all of the time

that he picks up strangers' phone calls. Like I bet you if like you called him like old school 90s style to change his long distance service, I bet you he would be on the phone with you for like 10 days. Yeah, no, he's just like an unscheduled call long distance service, I bet you he would be on the phone with you for like 10 days. Yeah. No, he's just like an unscheduled call that lasts over five minutes is a shocking luxury for all, but the most retired person, like an unscheduled call

from somebody, Oh, it's so good to hear from you. Like, yeah. Middle of the day on a work day. And he's just sitting there for hours. Just being like, yeah, what's good. Yeah. No, I know you you're mean to me usually in print. Here's some cool stuff I'm up to. Oh me? Nothing right now. I'm just hanging out. Also, I love that he didn't actually know that that person had been mean to him. Someone had to

inform him. You know what I mean? That's so funny. Someone's like, oh, actually you're supposed to not like this person. And even then it doesn't matter to him because as long as in the moment you're in his face and you're not talking cash shit to his face, he's like, and I love this person. Yep. Brad's giving me attention right now and asking me a question. There's almost no, there's like so many pictures of him on his phone in this article, like which he's just like constantly on his phone or like texting someone or there's almost no chance that he's not talking to like crypto scammers.

He looks like such a dickhead. Yeah. On these like in these pictures, like he's like, hello, like doing the like, kind of like I'm a little bit nearsighted. So I got to really put my phone far to start typing some shit. Oh boy. Well, a dumb smile. Farsighted. So I got to really put my phone far to start typing some shit. Oh, boy. Well, a dumb smile. I think it's like, y'all, if any of y'all can figure out how to get this number, please let us know. Yeah, please let us know. I'm I could do it.

I don't know who I'll do an impression of, but I will try and talk to him and get him to believe he's talking to somebody else. The Australian president. Really? We'll just have to learn the Australian president's name, but you got to go to Australia. All right, President Trump. it's me, President Australia. How are things down under? My name is Melbourne, Australia. I'm the president. I can't do the Australian.

Crocodile Dundee. Oh, good to see you. Good to hear from you, crocodile. Crocodile. I've always been a big fan of your work. to hear from you, crocodile. Crocodile. I've always been a big fan of your work. Yeah, like truly the scant, the, you know, gen Z prank phone call artists of TikTok and YouTube are falling down at the job that they haven't been able to get his ass on for a while.

Like we need to get like, yeah, like somewhat like James Adomian to pretend he's Elon Musk and talk to him for like 75 hours and just get some weird shit out of him. I would just pretend to be his daughter and have phone sex with him. Oh, gosh. I would record it and release it. Yeah. People would be not shocked. I'd be like, hey, dad, it's Ivanka. Hold on. Let me close the door.

Just thinking about the way you're ready. You're ready? You're ready, rotting skin falls off your face. And it just got me really hot. I feel like, yeah, you could just say you're some random, you're like, I'm a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader and I think you're swell. Go on. Yes.

Send me a picture of you right now. You just Google and send. It'll be the easiest. It got Getty images, watermarks all over it. He's like, wow. I'm a lucky guy. The way your ample body is sliding off your skeleton like slow roasted pork. So I'm saying.

I just do it in my voice. He's like, go on. Go on. Oh, baby. This guy wants to fuck me, it sounds like. Baby, you are. That meat is looser than pulled pork. Yeah. I feel like a dumb prank phone call like that. Like they would overreact and then somebody will prank call the president,

get his ass really good and they'll be charged with. Treason or something. Treason and they'll be put to death. Yeah. Hanged rather, right? Hanged. Why is that? They'll be hung. Put to death, yeah. Hanged, rather, right? Hanged. Why is that? They'll be hung is a description of them having. And they'll be packing downstairs.

And they'll be packing? What do you mean? What does one have to do with the other? I don't know, it's just how the term works. Oh, will they be executed? No, no, that's what I meant. I just meant whoever's doing it, they'll be hung. They'll definitely be hung. You can tell.

All right. In continuing on our trend of old person news, and yesterday's trend of drug news, we got some news about the elderly getting on board with weed. Dude, the boomers are hitting the bong hard. You think they're still smoking bongs? I hope so. I don't think so. There's nothing funnier than a tiny old person hitting a giant bong

Yeah, and like really and then like gene that thing up just like Yeah, no cough. No nothing. No chest convulsion. Just straight. Oh Oh, I like this one. I like this one. This is a little nice This little peppery or than the other one. Well, I mean you can taste the cannons. Oh look at the tenants. Wow the Cannon, but yeah, it sounds like the 65 and older crowd have shed all the other refer Yeah, the turkey turps to turps to the legs on that. Yeah The reefer madness propaganda brain is withering away and people are now embracing the weed. The stigma is not as much of a thing as it used to be with the 65 and older crowd.

And obviously like the expansion of like legal and legal recreational and medical medicinal cannabis has opened the door for holdouts. Like my high school teacher, my high school history teacher who inspired me to even be interested in history as like a major, all the time we would talk about like, like we would talk about weed. He's like, hey guys, really, you should really stop talking about that. I

know you're joking to kind of get me riled up, but like it's illegal or whatever. Like, would you ever smoke weed, sir? And he would always say, I only don't smoke it because it is illegal And I'm a law-abiding citizen, but if it was legal I would do it and we're like oh We're gonna smoke with you when it's legal. He's like instance. I'm drunk right now. Yeah My high school history teacher shout out to high school history teacher who was secretly dipping all class or like Secretly, but like he just had a little one in

and was taking sips of his soda that- You can in no way do dip- Secretly. In a clandestine manner. No, no, he was- Yeah, everybody was onto him. He was always taking little sips that sounded like, yeah, anyways.

It was like, oh, I was shitting myself in public, but no one knew. It's like, no, we all knew. Your pants fell down because it was so heavy, but he actually gave me early weed insight. Also, he was like, the only reason weeds illegal is because it's so easy to grow at home, like, and so difficult to tax. Like you can't, can't make Budweiser worth a shit in your bathtub

But you buy a grow light you can grow some pretty great weed And nobody's gonna know about it. That's a fucking hero right there. I know That's teaching it a fucking Catholic high school in Kentucky. It was just being like yeah, man So here's what it is. They know Yeah That's like I'm sure like there's a tradition of knowing like what the government will let you make on your own and won't because of how companies can profit. I'm sure for that, it's like moonshine is more like the local thing than like weed, maybe on the West Coast. But anyway, there's been a 46% uptick in consumption among seniors.

Whoa, man. This like Journal of American Medicine study from 2021 to 2023. And now like from when they were asking in 2023, 7% of adults, 65 and older, said they'd used cannabis in the past month. Yeah, boy. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I think like through, I think, you know, it's the pandemic lockdowns and I think acceptance around

using it for certain chronic illnesses or pain management is definitely adding to the usage. And I've also noticed a more of like a who gives a fuck kind of added from that generation recently. At least the ones around me are more like way different than what I remember as a kid or they're like so buttoned up and like, yeah, don't give a fuck. I'm getting high now. I don't have anything to do. Well, to piggyback off of that, I think I totally agree that it's not giving a fuck. And I think actually I'll take it further.

It's because they're like, well, we have no future because the next couple of years that we have or whatever, or under this administration, everything's getting cut. America's falling apart. They're like, you know what? I might get into heroin tomorrow. I don't give a fuck. Like, where do I sign up? That means they were getting nihilistic under Biden during this.

That's what I'm saying. They're starting. They built up their who gives a fuck muscles on climate change and Gaza and all that stuff. So now we, bro, I can't be fucking arsed, as they say. I've seen more than also personally a few examples of friends are getting their parents to try it for pain management. A friend of mine's dad who was taking all kinds of opioids for hip and knee replacement surgeries,

was just so zonked out all the time and was like, but was resisting cannabis because they had this very like boomer idea. Like if I ingest it, I might turn into a black jazz pianist or something. And I don't want that to happen. So I don't know if I should take this edible. My children are not ready for me to become Miles Davis. My gym teacher is going to call me Cheech and Chong. Yeah, exactly.

I'm going to be so embarrassed. They're going to call me John Coltrane or something. Oh my God. But now, since they've crossed that bridge, like they're fully like, they're like, I can't believe I didn't do this. Like I feel so much like it like clearheaded because I'm not so fucking wasted from like traditional like pharmaceutical pain medicines I'm not so fucking wasted from like traditional like pharmaceutical pain medicines.

Not to say this works for everyone, but like anecdotally that that's been the, the one I've seen happen a lot common where it's like, they've always got this back pain, they hate taking pills for it. And now they just like take their little vape and now they're great or an edible or something. Yeah. So it's, it's not a surprise. When compared with the opioids that yeah, have been legally sold to people for the past couple of decades.

Yeah. Well, massive, massive improvement guys. Yeah. Please do that. Also side note, if you're like a grownup who smokes with like younger people, is this like a podcast for 13 year olds? Okay. But like, if you're a grownup, why do for 13 year olds? Okay, but like if you're grown up.

Oh my god. Why do I sound like that? Also, god damn it. I don't even talk. I've been really valley sounding this whole episode and I'm like, I apologize to the listeners. I don't know what's happening over here. You are valley by way of Odessa. Yeah.

Never lived in the valley. What is this accent? It is horrible. Please leave. Please leave my mouth Um, yeah, I just wanted to say that if you're an older, uh person Smoking weed with younger people You're cool as hell If you're an older person drinking

With younger people, that is not cool. That's bad You're a monster and you need to leave not cool. That's bad. You are a monster and you need to leave. Although I don't I don't know. I got a family friend who's older, like they're like, oh, you smoking? I'm like, yeah, they're like, I've been doing that, too. And I'm like, bro, you you're not ready for this shit. And they're like, they're like, I go to the store.

I go to the store and I'm like, all right, this motherfucker turned into a scarecrow and like at this family party and they'm like, all right this motherfucker turned into a scarecrow and like at this family party Physically there as a presence but not Absolute scarecrow. Oh, yeah It's what it was like to get high with me back when I got high. Well, at least they weren't like, do you hate me? They were just like.

I didn't say that out loud. Jack, I love you, but you do look like you would be absolutely not fun high. To get high with? No, I was a nightmare. I hated myself. I was like, oh God. Yeah, no, I totally, for for some reason feel that from you.

I don't know what that means. It must be good. I think it's a good fit. It reflects well on my personality and just my general chillness and how fun I am to be around. It means you're very chill now. We like you like this. Exactly.

It means that this is the real Jack. You know what I'm saying? It's like I'm high in my regular life, man. I can't be double high. Yeah. Exactly. It's like I'm high in my regular life, man. I can't be double high. Exactly. You're fricking high off of your beautiful family and cool job. And like, why would you even need anything else?

And cool shoes. Thank you so much. And this is for 13-year-olds out there. You don't need anything else. When you're grown up, you get to pick your own clothes, and you can buy them, whichever ones you want to buy. Hey guys, get ready with me. So first of all, my mom let me get this skirt from the limited and it was with my birthday

money. So, okay, second off, I wanted to get the stuff from Wet Seal, but I could not afford it. So I got it from my best friend, Brittany, and I'm borrowing it for this outfit. Brittany. Oh my God, so many syllables in Brittany. Brittany. Brittany. Brittany.en-y. Brit-en-y. Let's take a quick break.

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And we're back. We're back. We're back. And we got a new head of FEMA, David Hurricane Richardson, the acting head of FEMA. And at a big meeting with his employees, he said that he did not know the United States has a hurricane season, leaving the people who worked for FEMA somewhat concerned and baffled. He's like, I was just joking around. He's one of those guys.

If he's actually joking. He was not joking, though. He was in no way joking. It's not even a joke. It's not a thing. I do know people like that who will say something, and everyone's like, what the fuck? And then they'll be like, oh my God.

Like once you get to know them, you're like, oh, they were joking. But like, I don't know how that works. You know, this sense of irony because you see it all the time in bad comedians who just say, I'm just going to say the opposite of something and assume that's iron. I guess that will get a lot. Sure. Yeah. And it's like, what? Just shut up. I actually love Hitler. You guys get it? Yeah. Like, well,'s like what dude shut up. I actually love Hitler you guys get it

Yeah, like well, that's not yours. You're not just not exactly in that binary You're either a Nazi or you're not a Nazi Nazi, huh? But either way it wasn't a joke Yeah, yeah, it was not a joke in any functional form of joking. The Democrats have been like, okay, well, even if that was a joke, this is what happens when you hire for vibes over qualifications, because he's not in any way qualified. But the vibes are terrible. It's not like he's a funny person. During his first all hands FEMA meeting, he told others,

don't get in my way. Adding obfuscation delay, undermining. If you're one of those 20 percent of the people and you think those tactics and techniques are going to help you, they will not because I will run right over you. I will achieve the president's intent. That's the vibe actually that Trump was going for. He was like, no, I need a fucking pickle.

Truly, I was having a seizure during that and I Don't understand how you can make FEMA and to something that's like a war rally Yeah Like do you know what FEMA does? Yeah, they're not in charge of the Marines bro. Like what is this? Yeah, yeah, I and I alone in FEMA speak for FEMA the Marines, bro. Like, what is this? Whoever stands against us. Yeah. Yeah. I and I alone in FEMA speak for FEMA. Jesus Christ. I and I alone. I don't stop at yield signs is also something he said.

OK. You know, like you're supposed to when there's other stuff. No, you know what? I guess, you know what yield means? Like, I feel like a lot of the words he uses, he does not understand. And that is kind of, it's kind of key for the administration. I think it's kind of a thing everyone has in common. They just do not really know what words mean.

No, they're just saying, yeah, I'm an asshole. Get out of my way. Fuck you. They're pretty much. I would have taken so much less time. Yeah. He said, I don I'm an asshole. I don't know why they didn't get that he was like a fun joking guy when he said that he

didn't know we had a hurricane season when the rest of the meeting was like, I will fuck you up. Don't even look at me. I will destroy you. I will make you wish you were never born. Turn around, face the law. I didn't know there was such a thing as a hurricane season. Well, how did they not know that was a joke?

Bro, all the funniest guys do is I'm sure he's threatened to skull fuck someone in that meeting. Yeah, I'm sure he had Fucking here's he probably did that bit from that Will Ferrell SNL thing or the most terrible boss like we was abusing the employees Feral SNL thing or the most terrible boss like reusing the employees Just like right after didn't mean that skull fuck joke literally come on guys I feel like this is what happens when like someone binge watches Succession who is like You know, right then you're like I'm gonna make FEMA Logan Roy industries. Yeah, like oh my god

into Logan Roy Industries. Yeah. Like, oh my God, sir. Well, there's been like studies on like narcissism and the thing they've found is that a lot of the biggest narcissists and like the meanest people are the people who like haven't really like in the entertainment industry, for instance, it'll be like people who haven't, who aren't like talented, they're just like there because they were in the right place at the right time. And so they're like defending their position because they have a sense that like, I don't actually know why I'm here. And I feel like that, like this guy is in no way deserves to be the FEMA chief. His, his background is that he was a former Marine and a terrible artist and novelist. Back to a running theme we've found here with Trump.

They're all failed creatives. I guess I was meant to be a filmmaker. I didn't know he failed at two forms of art. Yeah. Now I know this man is like extra dangerous. Well, he would have you believe he succeeded. He's like the anti double threat. Yeah, exactly.

You know what I mean? He's a he's a minus one threat. Yeah. In 2020, he had a gallery show which included a painting depicting AOC kind of like it's it's not recognizable as AOC other than if I tell you, oh, this is being done by somebody who's from the right, because it's a woman in a Che Guevara poster with like hoop earrings, which does AOC even wear hoop earrings? And it says hashtag Bimbonic?

Bimbonic. Amazon on the top. What does that even mean? I don't understand. Hashtag Bimbonic. I understand what bimbo is, but I don't know what word it's supposed to be replacing. Why are we being like a bionic bimbo? But what word is it supposed to be replacing?

Like what's the wordplay there? Oh, oh, it's just a word I thought was funny to make fun of a woman. That's why I put that there. I thought it was gonna go viral, okay? So I did it as a hashtag. Fuck, hashtag bimbonic's not taking off. Really quick though, but it seems like it's complimentary to portrayers,

Che Guevara, because he was an important revolutionary. Or is that what you were going for with the art? Cortez is a socialist. She is like the pigs for Orwell's Animal Farm. My initial impression of her that she doesn't really care about the working class. She just doesn't like rich folk. That was my initial idea. Kind of like Che.

Oh, so, okay. They just hate rich people. So you think the main thing that Che Guevara was about was he was like, I don't like. I hate rich people. I hate riches. I'm just jealous of all their swag. Just really wish I was Call them mr. Coffee

Exactly Damn you are dry ass chemics can hiccuping like a drunk Disney character. He also wrote a 2019 novel called War Story, which terrible art on the front that appears to be his own. Did I miss the part where you said the gallery said it looked like Basquiat's work? No. Yeah, sorry. I just thought that was going to like actually kill some people.

So I didn't want to, but the gallery owner compared his work to that of Basquiat in terms of his materials and arresting imagery. Jesus. Why would somebody say that? This is so viscerally upsetting. It's at best it can be, it's like a poor man's Mr. Brainwash. It's just like, you know somebody appropriating one image mashing it up with another and being which is wild cuz that's down

Yeah did at all. No Like this person must not know what Basquiat there was like fucking poetry and like all kinds of shit and all the message revolutionary statements pulling in poetry and like all kinds of shit and all the mess. Radical revolutionary statements and pulling in history and. But this guy understands this guy understands blackness, I think. Just like Basquiat did probably the gallery owner. The gallery owner is probably Biskwik. Yeah, he's like, oh, it's very much like Basquiat. Totally. The gallery owned, by the way that- I'm actually Ovaltine inspired.

If I was going to say, I love his work. The painting that looks like 9,000 things you could find on fucking like any of those public art sites where they're like, turn your art into a poster is being sold for $90,000. He's like kind of an art nepo, like his mom is an artist. And so I think like this is his way into these galleries and shit. Like, you know, it's also wait, when did you say this gallery show was parenting?

Yeah. What? What year? When? 2020 you said? Yeah. Someone. No, but I'm just like, because I'm, I I'm like this isn't an original idea and then in 2018

Someone posted a she give our image with AOC like but photorealistic and I'm like, dude This guy's just fucking ripping off like it's even worse. How can you be the fuck Jerry of painting when you already are not? Jesus I do want to get to his novel. Yeah, let's please, War Games. His novel, so he says that his novel is 80% autobiographical, and I'm going to let you guys decide which parts you think are real and which parts aren't. So like the stuff that is demonstrably autobiographical is like the novel follows a DC area resident, a cigar smoker, and the son of an artist who taught him to paint from a young age. His name is Steerforth,

and he goes to war not because he has to or because he's especially committed to the cause but because he's dreamed of the adventure of war since childhood. He just basically looks fun, is his reason for going to war. He's constantly being complimented on his amazing paintings, especially by very young women, including his female students. And he's constantly like fucking, you know, college age women as a teacher. Oh, sweetie, your mommy and daddy didn't like your art. I like your paintings. That cigar smell makes me think of my papa,

is what one of the girls says before kissing him on the cheek. After. Before she fucking kills herself because that's not real. Holy shit. All the woman in the back find him, quote, irresistibly charming. A reporter who visits Iraq and questions how a man who's obviously not gay and seems to have melted more than one heart with those blue eyes, that crooked grin and that practiced

southern draw. Practiced southern draw could be single. Does he think that's sexy? A practiced southern draw? To picture a man practicing his own accent? Why would that be? That's not sexy. That's serial killer shit.

Is that a phrase? And that fake broken arm. Yeah. And that fake, yeah. And that's fake. Who are you, the talented Mr. Fucking Ripley? Why are you practicing an accent? I love his performative neck brace that he wears.

What the fuck are they saying? Later, she brushes over the possible war crimes she saw committed on Steerforth's watch. I wonder which part of that is real. That's definitely, that's an upset. That sounds real. That sounds right on. Or the hot woman who was like, God damn, how are you single? Jesus.

The balls to write a war story where you're like, I'm really excited to go to war for the adventure and then at the end The like moral isn't that like oh war is terrible. I thought it was gonna be an adventure. But in fact now I've been so fucked Yeah, if that is not the book you're writing. I do not understand how You're like the the moral of the story is like and it was actually pretty tight and like we did some fucked up shit and got away with it because I'm hot. But I smoked a cigar and had sex with college students. The idea of somebody still think is cool to smoke a cigar. I don't know. I guess maybe it's coming back.

That's the generate. No, that's that generation. No, they're weird like that. Because or I mean, he's not young enough because like the Tate brothers are big fucking stogie smokers too. But again, they're still, they're doing, they're larping as like fucking boomer men. So you know. Well, I think it's like, that's what they think rich people do. It's a war story, but it's also a love story. He has a girlfriend who is a quote Mongolian born college student who loves his paintings

The book describes her as thin with nice hips and around the bottom Guys a good writer she lives in an apartment building full of immigrants and works in a hat Okay, yeah, I feel like he really knows the common man I feel like he really knows the common man. Yeah. I feel like he's probably stalking this Mongolian born college student. That might be based on something real. She's probably said a million times. I am not Mongolian.

Yeah. Okay. I've told you I'm Filipino. Stop fucking calling me Mongolian. I just work at the Mongolian barbecue place you come out for lunch every day. I am white. She's Mongolian born and a come out for lunch every day. I am white. She's Mongolian born and a college student with hips and a round bottom.

A round bottom. They go on dates where he buys her ice cream, smokes cigars and says things like, this waterfront reminds me of summer and painting. Holy shit. It's just, yeah. You can see that he wants to have an artistic soul. He wants to have a personality and he doesn't and it is sad.

And instead. This waterfront reminds me of painting, which is an artistic thing you can do. Jesus Christ. You guys know. And then he spends a good portion of the book sexualizing female Marines and complaining about them being in the military in the first place. So that seems like probably what he's actually doing. I'm not supposed to kill strangers with someone with a round bottom nearby. Am I right? My dogs? Up top. That's just written in the book. Who's that up top for?

Who's that up top for? Am I right, fellas? Up top. Crooked. Anyways, it seems like a hell of a book. Go check it out. Orphea, such a pleasure having you. Love you guys. Thank you so much for having me. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff?

Please listen to my 90 Day Fiancé podcast with Miles Gray called 420 Day Fiancé. You don't even have to watch the show. Actually, a bunch of people don't, and they still listen, and it's funny for them. So, yeah. And then you can find me on Instagram and whatever, the Sophia, S-O-F-I-Y-A.

And, you know, have a have a great life you guys All right. Thanks. Why I'm killing myself. I'm just kidding It's our last day of school before yeah, you just write your book Yeah and like but we're about to but where you're just we're graduating junior high and you like have a good life because I don't Know if we're going to high school next year It's so true and then I'm all dramatic when I walk away I'm like is anybody gonna turn around and I'm like, is anybody going to turn around?

And I'm checking to see if you turned around and I'm turning around. But it's like at the wrong time. And it's like, oh, no. Sorry. I don't know. My parents might move to San Jose. I might go to a different school. I don't know. Well, stay cool if they do.

Anyways. I'm serious. You better fucking stay cool. Never change. OK, you're a cutie. I envy you. Remember that? Oh, yeah'm serious. You better fucking stay cool. Never change, okay? You're a cutie. I envy you. Remember that? I never change. Oh, yeah. God. I really did take a never change and you're a cutie. I would be like, God, do they like me? I think they love me.

They said they wanted to see me this summer. Stay cool. Where was all this energy all year, Katie? Oh, my God. Dang, Katie, you write like you talk. I am. That's my favorite Simpsons one. He writes like he talks.

Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Yes, so this is a Reddit post I saw. So you can't really enjoy it by clicking on it. It's enjoyed from my mouth. Okay. Basically, it was a thread where people were talking about what to do and where they're escaping to if shit gets really bad under Trump. And a Scottish person posted and said, hey, if anybody needs to marry somebody to escape, I am available.

We can do a two-year limited marriage, whatever." And people were like, that's so nice that you would offer that. And this other person replied and said, this is extra nice for me because I'm a Black autistic disabled woman. And then the person, the original poster replied and said, oh my God, I am also a Black autistic. And I was like, this is the most beautiful meeting of mine. Wow. And so. This was the Scottish person to the Scottish person was like, yes, I am also exactly you.

Wow. I'm a black disabled, autistic woman. That also sounds like some reddish shit where people just be claiming that shit. So they get away with saying all kinds of stuff. Because fucking AI people are on there faking to be black people all the time. But I do like to wish I hope that's sincere and it was a real connection. Your heart. I just want to say that that is a fucking sitcom that I want to watch because yes. Escaping and finding each other through Reddit.

So cute. That's it. Miles, where can people find you? Is there work media you've been enjoying? Yeah, at miles of gray everywhere. Uh, basketball talk. Check out miles and check out Matt Booski. He's talking to Megan Gailey this week. Probably the most famous Pacers fan out there. I love Megan Gailey. She's so funny.

Yeah. And look, she is in heaven right now with her Pacers in the finals. Uh, so yes, just, just, just fucking tune in for that one. Obviously tune into 420 Day day fiance was Sophie Alexandra and I I work at media like you know as a parent of a little toddler. There's a lot of miss Rachel being played She just had a potty training episode that drop. She was a fucking banger I heard a lot of farting just so many farting jokes in there. I was like hell Yeah, when you're like I old farting jokes are like everything

Yeah, it's about honestly and it's like oh do animals poop. Yeah farting jokes in there? I was like, hell yeah. When you're a child, farting jokes are like everything. Yeah, because of pooping. Honestly. And it's like, oh, do animals poop? Yeah. Do our parents poop? And it's like, yes. It's like all these fart sounds. But anyway, on top of that, she's also gotten a lot of shit

because she's been very vocally a supporter of Palestinian people, especially what's happening to children. And a lot of people like, how dare you? You should stay out of this. And she's been like, yo, I'm sorry. I'm about the kids. This is what she posted on threads two days ago. This is from Miss Rachel for Littles. Quote, what people don't understand is that my career reputation will never matter to me as much as standing up for kids. What people don't understand is that no amount of cruel name calling or false accusations will stop me from standing up for kids.

What people don't understand is that I will risk my career over and over to stand up for kids. What people don't understand is that that's why I'm Miss Rachel. The kids brought me here. I was like, god damn. Bars, Miss Rachel. Yes, exactly.

Second of all, one of the things for the show is like things you want to promote. I want to promote Jewish Voice for Peace because it is really, really important. I mean, obviously for everybody, but I think Jewish people have a hard time because a lot of anti-Semitism creeps in, but we have to just keep focused on what matters. And that is exactly what Megan was talking about, and it's dead and starving children and just people in general. So Jewish voice for peace if you are a Jewish person who is struggling and wants to help. And yeah.

Oh, yeah. You can find me on Twitter at jackunderscorebrian on blue sky at Jack. Oh be the number one. I enjoyed this tweet from anon FPA Tweeted intern attended his first town hall today and I found this sitting on his desk after It's just like one of those like legal notepad things and it says efficiency misspelled culture invest in people

training I Culture. Invest in people. Training. I can see it on a giant banner. Yeah, it's just I've been in so many empty meetings like that. Emptiness. So I guess we gotta like invest in people or something here guys. Sounds crazy. I don't know. You can find us on Twitter and BlueSky at Daily Zeitgeist.

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a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy? Yeah. is there a song that you think people might enjoy? Yeah, I just want to go out on a track from an LA artist, Georgia Ann Muldrow, like multi-genre, just super creative artist, I think super dope. This track is called Woo Punk, W-U-P-U-N-K, and it's just a groover, you know, instrumental groover,

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