The Daily Zeitgeist - Bonus Episode: Anti-Black QB Bias, Fake News About George Washington 10.02.17

Episode Date: October 9, 2017

In this bonus episode Jack & Miles have on special guest Dan O'Brien and discuss Trump's NFL tirade, anti-black QB bias, fake news about George Washington, the fake Blacktivist FB account created by Russian entities, & a tabloid round-up. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Daniel O'Brien, no relation. Yeah. And then I did a noise that was as cool as the one Miles did. You've been told. Mine's from the Wayans Brothers TV show. That's what Pops used to do. Daniel is the creative director at Cracked and head of video and a best-selling author. Yeah, and so are you.

Yeah. Hey. Hey, it's Jack, best-selling author. I think you did that to set yourself up. Yeah, mostly. Oh, me? Yeah, I Hey, it's Jack, best-selling author I think you did that to set yourself up Yeah, yeah, mostly Oh, me? Yeah, I guess so Yeah, I guess you're right And also a subject of Secret Service investigations

Yeah, yeah, yeah And so are all of you now Oh, shit, I did not think about that By talking to him How'd that happen, Dan? I wrote an article for Cracked You were working there at the time So, as usual, you gave me the assignment to do it, and I tried to push back. It was a satirical –

What was the title of that article? So You've Kidnapped the President's Daughters, I think was the title that I submitted. Right. And then I believe it got changed to How to Kidnap the President's Daughters. Yeah, that went well. It was a satirical guide about what to do if you've accidentally kidnapped the president's daughters. Yeah, that went well. It was a satirical guide about what to do if you've accidentally kidnapped the president's daughters. And about six months after it ran,

the Secret Service contacted our parent company at the time, and they were like, hey, do you know anyone named Daniel O'Brien the Secret Service would like to speak to him? And they had us take down the article, and then I went to the downtown L.A. office, and they had printouts down the article and then i went to the downtown la office and they had printouts of the article and just asked me a bunch of questions about why i wrote certain things and if i'd ever been in a terrorist group and if i did any terrorist things in my life

and i just did a bunch of no's and a whole bunch of jokes because i'm yeah i'm broken like i'm a bad person because the secret service has a good good sense of humor yeah that's what they're famous for were you ever part of a terrorist group in college like no it's just part of an acapella group yeah what was the name of that group oh shit the b-sharps and they uh i told them i wasn't a terrorist and they could call my mom if they wanted and they said we'd like to please give us her number. Like, oh, no, she doesn't know about any of this. And ever since then, you get stopped every time you're passing through the TSA.

Three out of five times I get stopped. And one or two times I went through like a different room. They're just like, you need to go in this room while we hold your passport for a second. And then they said, OK, you can get out of this room and go to your plane now. And very often I get a little notice in my checked baggage that they went through it while I was flying and asleep. You're welcome, Daniel. Hey, speaking of terrorist organizations, the Democrats picked up two seats in a special election this past Tuesday. Picked up two seats in a special election this past Tuesday.

So this news was overshadowed by the great NFL freakout, American freakout, which we'll get into later. But the Democrats picked up two seats, and one of them is certainly not one we would have expected Democrats to pick up. And Miles, you were saying that this is significant? Yeah, it's a good precursor. So in New Hampshire, this woman, Kari Lerner, she won a special state House election in a district that Trump won by 23 points. And also Republicans have a two-to- one advantage in registrations there. So despite all that, she won this seat. And then also in Florida, in the Miami area, another Democratic candidate picked up a state Senate seat. So it's really interesting because, you know, that's that

makes it what eight Republican seats that the Democrats have flipped in 2017 this year, just in special elections. And those aren't like main like Senate seats. They're not going to like have a huge impact. But you're saying that it's like a good weather balloon for like things to come. Right, right, right. So like even in 2010, when the Tea Party was on the rise and like right after Obamacare had been passed, there were a lot of, yeah, special elections where Tea Party or Republicans were flipping democratic seats uh and that eventually was a precursor to the midterms in 2010 where the democrats lost the house so yeah i think it's really interesting because uh that means like i think of the the 27 republican

held uh state legislative seats uh that have been up for elections in 2017 30 of them have been up for elections in 2017, 30% of them have been flipped. And that's pretty significant to have nearly one-third go blue. So keep your eye on that. We might see some significant pickups for the blue team in 2018. Yeah. I mean, the main, the top voting population in the 2016 presidential election was people who chose not to vote. So I could definitely see people now who just chose not to partake last time now deciding now that they've seen what that brings. Waking the fuck up. Yeah.

Yeah. So, yeah, keep an eye on that and vote. Vote your conscience. Yeah. Again, probably a thing that – As the god Ted Cruz says. Yeah. Just a story that slid under the radar because, yeah, there's a lot – I guess comparatively many other crazier things happening that actually need attention.

Yeah, and the other election thing was that the guy trump supported lost but he lost to somebody who was even fucking crazier than him yeah so that's that's scary to me because i'm going to keep my eye on the the blue team obviously but i'm also going to keep my eye on how many people that bannon supports get pushed through right because because he's been legitimately part of the vast right-wing fringe conspiracy for his entire life and even him out of the white house he still is a guy who's like picking candidates he likes exactly advancing their careers and and like we don't want that we don't want this new version of tea party fringe candidates to well yeah because these people are even to the right yeah

tea party because like now we're actually going into insane territory like we have just straight up racists who like are in homophobic islamophobe like any phobia you could fucking have roy moore yeah he's he checks the list so yeah to have someone like that now enter the senate like one of the the highest of our congressional houses like that's uh interesting things we'll see what happens because yeah it's we're starting to actually see now that it's it's going to be Bannon's party versus I guess whatever the establishment GOP is. Who knows what they are anymore? It's all kind of coming apart. Yeah.

At the same time, there was no non-scary answer to that one. It was either Trump's guy or Bannon's guy won. So, I mean, we'll have to see. If this guy performs really well in the general election, then maybe we can start peeing our little pants. But I think based off just like who picked who, like I feel like the name should have been flipped. Like Luther Strange was like the establishment GOP candidate. And then Roy Moore is like the fringe candidate. I think Roy Moore sounds more like Luther Strange.

Yeah. And Roy Moore sounds more like an establishment GOP pick. Yeah. So they kind of fucked up the names. Yeah. Just some just some story notes for. Yeah. And Roy Moore sounds more like an establishment GOP pick. Yeah. So they kind of fucked up the names. Yeah. Just some story notes for the universe. Yeah, for next time. Whoever's writing this show.

Deep state. Another timely story is that apparently the Blacktivist account was – this is a fairly popular account that is i don't know it's for black activists uh it has more followers than the black lives matter page and it turns out it was just russian trolls uh or the russian government depending on uh what you choose to believe, whether you're Steven Seagal or... But Vladimir Putin didn't have anything to do with this. The idea that Vladimir Putin, such a wonderful pronunciation. Hey, you have some experience with Steven Seagal, right? Didn't you like work with him on something?

No. Oh. What? There's a chance you're thinking of me, Jack. I was the talking head expert on Steven Seagal for the A&E biography of Steven Seagal. Yeah. Oh, wow. Sure.

Way to go, Jack. I was not. I was thinking of that anecdote. But keep an eye out for Dan's appearance on the Steven Seagal. Why was there an A&E thing? It's very dated now. We don't talk about the new phase of his career his career yeah right when he's became a russian yeah yeah that that that it's crazy because that blacktivist account like i mean outwardly sort of seemed like it was a

social justice kind of page where i mean maybe more inflammatory because like the kinds of things that they were posting uh were pretty pretty much exclusively clips of police brutality with things like, we know where the police stand and kind of having this pretty strong anti-police, anti-government narrative behind it. But there were little indicators that it was clear that this might not have been in native English speaker behind it because there was wonky grammar here and there that like you know native speakers wouldn't use and like they would constantly use that backwards apostrophe for like whenever they use needed a real one right that one that's right underneath the escape key that no one knows why the fuck that's there that's what they were using as an apostrophe um and then they were also posting a lot of like anti-hillary uh posts and just like stuff about jill stein like it's like a vote for jill Jill Stein is for peace and it's not a vote wasted.

So, you know, they were clearly had some ulterior motives. I mean, just wanted to split votes, cause the Nader effect all over again. Right. And yeah, who knows how well it worked, but like, like I said, it had more Facebook followers than the legitimate Black Lives Matter page. So it had a, it has a pretty impressive footprint. Which is a really troubling thing for me, just because I mean, Russians hacking everything in my life is obviously terrifying. But knowing that our president is just a loud funnel of hate and misinformation misinformation that this story will be obfuscated

so much in talking points because now it's a real win for racists on the right to link russian hackers with uh what seems like a social justice cause that i don't i don't like how this will get obfuscated down the line into probably linking russian hackers with black lives matter it's just like a a another scary thing right that'll be like american racism is a product of the kgb right it's like right yeah i mean that's kind of the brilliant thing about uh vladimir putin's uh whole strategy his whole like weird post-modern media misinformation strategy is like misinformation on all sides. So until people are just like, fuck, I don't like I don't even have the energy to believe anything anymore. So it is getting increasingly convenient to find out that the Russians did everything bad.

Like that's really handy for for me when I want to decomplicate the world a little bit. It's sort of like the final season of Breaking Bad where you go so many years of these complicated, interesting characters. And then, no, it's the Nazis. Right, right, right. It's been the Nazis all along. Obvious choice, but I didn't even see them. Yeah. And so there's a long, proud history of Russia gaslighting Americans that we'll eventually get into and do a bigger, weightier piece. But for instance, the KGB misinformation campaigns were some of the first people to put out JFK conspiracy theories that the CIA was behind the JFK assassination. They invented the concept of nuclear winter.

They were the first people to put out the idea that AIDS was a government plot. And they were apparently some of the first people to try and like bad mouth Martin Luther King Jr. like from both sides. Yeah, right. Like they were trying to frame him. They're trying to seed articles in African papers about how he was like an Uncle Tom and how he was taking government subsidies or whatever to sort of delegitimize him to blacks. But then you had on the other side, I mean, like, you know, they're saying he's one of the few people who's had active measure campaigns against him from both the FBI and the KGB. So that's a, you know, shows you how bossy MLK really was when both both sides are trying to.

Right. That's when, you know, you're powerful. And just another like this is something that's taking place on the other side. This is something that's taking place on the other side, something that when we were covering the aftermath of Hurricane Harvey, we found like these Twitter accounts that were being retweeted by a lot of, you know, right wing media people that were supposedly like black guys who are calling themselves Harvey Loot Crew. And they were like, yo, son, come down to this store and help us loot it. And just really poor approximations, like clearly white guy versions of what they think black people speak like. Exactly how you said it. Right. And then we actually, like, found the 4chan thread where they were like, hey, check this out. We're, like, making it look like there's this looting thing. And one of the, like, racist dudes in the thread was like, yo, that's not how they talk

at all, man. Right. Do you even listen to rap? Right. So, yeah. Anyways, there's a whole big shifting misinformation troposphere out there. And don't believe anything you see, including this podcast. All right.

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Most of the time. And we're back. So I did want to get back to the most important news story going on right now, which is how white people feel about the NFL. now, which is how white people feel about the NFL. Oh, and just so there's been just this outpouring of hatred and anger. There's a new subgenre of YouTube clip that is white football fan dousing player jersey in kerosene and then like lighting it over a barbecue pit and almost setting themselves on fire because they've over doused it in kerosene uh and i don't know that like this story is just not

dying i'd say maybe 60 percent of the times that i've gone to the dredudge Report to see what's going on with the right wing. This week, the headline has been in relation to, you know, some just wildly unfair characterization of the protest and how black NFL players hate our flag. So it got me thinking about just the entire response to Colin Kaepernick's protest. like weirdly, outdatedly racist and, you know, unfair towards black quarterbacks to the point that, yeah, like there's something about that position that they just can not take. I mean, I think we talked earlier this week that there's like this sort of creepy racial like connotation to the whole NFL and like you have these owners where they're like you know evaluating players at the combine like they like stand up on stage and like lift weights for them and it's like these white owners and white coaches and talking about like different

black guys having like great bodies and great strength and shit like that. And then, you know, part of that hierarchy is that I think white football fans really prefer for the quarterback to be a white guy because the quarterback is kind of the leader who's like telling everybody where to go and sort of running the whole show. And so – You could say almost the overseer out there in the field. Field general. Exactly. Interesting. Anyway, I just saw some parallels there. But that's – okay.

Go on. So every year you will see like draft reports, especially if there's like a high profile black college quarterback who's coming out. Like when Cam Newton came out, there was all this controversy about a scandal that by all accounts had been perpetuated by his father. Like his dad had like basically asked for money to help sway where Cam ended up going to college after junior college. Oh, like taking bribes to be like, I'll send my son to your school. Yeah, basically. And it was like mostly rumored. People like don't really know the details.

But that was used to be like this guy's bad news. Cam Newton's like not right. Like you shouldn't draft him. And I think we've actually learned since then that Cam Newton's father is, is just a bunch of Russians. It's true. But there was this moment. So I, I totally forgotten that Rush Limbaugh used to be a NFL commentator on ESPN.

Nice work, ESPN. And back in 2002, he came out with the statement, keep the quarterback white, where he talked about how he thought there was a bias toward black quarterbacks. He thought that people wanted Donovan McNabb to succeed like more than they wanted white quarterbacks to succeed. quarterbacks to succeed uh and so former nfl quarterback warren moon uh who is a one of the great quarterbacks of all time who is a black man uh was like started a uh support group for black quarterbacks and this got some press from people being like what a weird, weirdly specific support group. But he has really found a role like counseling black quarterbacks because it is apparently like a really psychologically difficult, like challenging on every front position to be in. And I also just like another indicator that there's a complicated relationship to black quarterbacks, Warren Moon started this support group with a guy named Doug Williams.

I was like, Doug Williams, never heard of him. I asked Miles and Dan before this if they'd ever heard of Doug Williams. And they were like, I thought he was my gym coach. Right. I told them he was an athlete. They were like, baseball, basketball. Turns out he was the quarterback for the Washington Redskins when they won the Super Bowl in 1988 and was the Super Bowl MVP and had one of the great Super Bowls of all time. But we've just kind of deleted him from our memory. And even like Warren Moon has been sort of diminished in the lore of the NFL. Like he, he's a huge,

like passing yard leader, like he has like some of the best stats of all time, but you don't really think of him that way. When Warren Moon came out of college, he was basically the best college quarterback the year that he came out. And the NFL wouldn't, like, even let him try out as a quarterback. So he started his career in the Canadian Football League as a quarterback. Wait, what do you mean they wouldn't let him try out as a quarterback? They were like, you can try out as a running back or a wide receiver, but we like, it was just,

if he was drafted, it was like under the condition that like, he wouldn't be able to, he wasn't eligible to play. Exactly. The NFL just like, he was basically the person who broke the color barrier and it was like 84. That's how deep the,

like, yeah. God damn. Um, he eventually, That's how deep the – We both just – Yeah. God damn. He eventually – so he went to the Canadian Football League. He was like, no, I'm pretty sure I'm a quarterback, guys. Right. And went to the Canadian Football League and like broke all their records and won the championship for the Canadian. Right.

Like took over the worst team, like won the Super Bowl there like four years in a row. And the NFL was like, fine. OK, I guess. And there was a huge bidding war and the Houston Oilers got him. That's where he spent the formative years of his career and got like a record breaking contract at the time. And got like a record-breaking contract at the time. And he said like that's where a lot of the damage was done like psychologically to him. Like the first couple years, they were pretty bad still. And he just said it was like so awful, like the way that people treated him in Texas.

Can you believe it? Like the way that people treated him in Texas. Can you believe it? But like he was saying that even when he was having a good game, people would be like, man, your dad's out there chucking the ball around like he's chucking a watermelon. Like that was a direct quote from him because his like kids were in the stands and like his kids were like traumatized by this. So I don't know. There's sounds like a support group would be a good right. Yeah. Support group was a good.

There's a study that also has found that black starting quarterbacks. This was a 2015 study found that black quarterbacks are benched way quicker than white quarterbacks. Like all other things being equal. There's just less patience. If they make a mistake, they get pulled from the field. They get yanked quicker and replaced by a backup quarterback. And they are able to tell that it is not as justified as the benching of white quarterbacks because the teams improve less

when the black quarterback is benched. Right, right, right. So when a white quarterback is benched, it's because he really should have been benched. Right, right, right. And, like, the team actually gets better when a black quarterback is benched. Sometimes it's just because the coach doesn't like him or something. Yeah, of course he doesn't like black people. Right.

Now, Jack, I think it was last year, but it might have been the year before Cam Newton came out. He'd been getting a bunch of late, very rough hits. And he stated that he's if Tom Brady was getting those hits or any other white quarterback, the refs would be calling it. But because refs sort of like the systemic racism where they assume black people can take more pain than white people. They're just not calling the fouls. Is that – was there a study on that? I didn't look into it and decided to put you on the spot. I don't know if there's been a study on that, but I could definitely believe that.

I also feel like his performance – the last time that there was a big article about Warren Moon being a counselor to black quarterbacks was ahead of the Super Bowl when Cam Newton was in the Super Bowl. And they were just talking about how far we've come now. Cam Newton is like the star of the Super Bowl. But, man, when he had a bad Super Bowl and was down in the dumps after like losing the super bowl people were fucking unforgiving tab dancing on his fucking grave yeah it was really really ugly because he was a guy who was uh really funny and a joy in uh press conferences and was always dancing and was just like a like a fun guy and then he lost the super bowl and was sad and making angry faces and there were so many pieces on the internet that were like ah this

is what he's like there it is now we see right this this angry and then a bunch of you know ungrateful whatever yeah whatever code words there was fashionable back then right what's interesting you say even about the the the fouls not getting called or the yeah when he was getting late hits that not being called because that bias is demonstrated in how pain medication is prescribed to black patients. Black patients are like by a very large margin under prescribed pain medication because of that same sort of bias that people have. Because white people just assume black people have higher pain thresholds. It's fucking crazy. Yeah.

So they treat us like superheroes, but they don't give us the respect of superheroes right they can't pain they run faster they hit harder but you know right i don't want to have them hanging around my team or throwing a fucking ball like exactly um i agree with everything you just thank you so much yeah you have something else to say? Yeah, so that's all I have. I just think that, you know, there's obviously a lot of smoke there, and that probably has something to do with why a black quarterback kneeling during the national anthem has turned into the biggest tragedy in the history of, like, these people's lives.

It leads to a fun tangent that I'm enjoying. Stay with me because the president on Twitter is talking about how the NFL will definitely change its rules. If fans stop showing up to the games and stop watching them, they're getting such low ratings. So the president is actively encouraging racists to stop watching football. And I like the idea of racists losing things they like, because it's like, all right, the president said no more football, and then Steph Curry refused to go to the White House. All right, basketball's out.

What teams can I support? Pittsburgh Penguins? Fuck. Yeah. I really hope Josh gets the Dan Dopper Sportsman of the Year Award this year. And then plus, like, most hockey teams are, like, so many Russians. It's like, you can't escape either way. It's like, you're surrounded.

Yeah, there was a tweet I was reading. It was like, in the great American divorce, it's like, I love that progressives somehow got custody of football. Right. And conservatives are getting, like, Russians and hockey. Right. Who knew that conservatives were pro-russian um all right so uh in the time we have left in this segment uh we're gonna do our weekly check-in with the bloids baby bloid check that that should be our

thank you i'm my own sound uh so we we check in with the tabloids every once in a while because the tabloids have been known to uh break some stories uh they broke they they called that michael jackson was sick had six months to live like exactly six months to the day before he died uh they knew prince was addicted to painkillers, that Rush Limbaugh was addicted to pain pills and a cuck, that Tiger Woods was cheating. Put that in. That John Edwards was cheating, that Kevin Hart was cheating. Gary Hart, too, in the 88 Democratic election, too. They took down Gary Hart, too.

Right, and that Swayze was dying. So let's see what we have this week. Crack open a cold one. with the guy who's like the editor-in-chief and main publisher of AMI, American Media Inc., who owns the Enquirer, basically owns all the tablets. Like 12 of the most indisputably terrible people in the world, and they're all friends, and it's crazy. Yeah, they're just having weird dinner parties where they say awful shit. parties where they say awful shit um so apparently uh it's open knowledge now that val kilmer has cancer uh but they knew that before anyone else so they're bragging about that oh did they make themselves up like we were publishing this month inquire gets all the scoops all the time and then

they just brag about stuff they knew before everyone else if you want to brag that you're like we outed this person having cancer right for anyone right but that's their currency i guess um they found kim and kanye surrogate uh they're they're doing the good thing and blurring her face uh but she is apparently like the best surrogate like the yeah luxury automobile of surrogates the agency they went to to look for a surrogate she was they said she was literally the poster woman like she was on like literature that was promoting the uh agency so yeah she is like the one uh she i think like had a successful surrogate pregnancy like 2014 that kim and kanye really stoked on apparently kim was really stoked on the fact that she was a massive keeping up with the kardashians fan

um so you know there's nothing like i guess maybe they felt like that makes her like kim or something like because she likes the show uh but then they're like kind of like interesting demands that like kim and kanye have like well they not like crazy, but it's like eating organic food, like no smoking or drinking, obviously. But then there's one. What? Come on. Yeah. She had to study French and Mandarin during the pregnancy.

Like, I don't know. You tell me if I'm wrong. Are there any studies that suggest that if you're studying a foreign language, your child will come out with that sort of like. No sane ones. No. Yeah. I mean, you should play music, I think, is one of the things. Yeah. I think that wasn't one. You can't hear shit in there. Like, would you No sane ones, no. Yeah, okay. I mean, you should play music, I think, is one of the things. Yeah, I think that wasn't one relaxing music.

You can't hear shit in there. What, do you remember? No, no. I've listened to it because. Like, man, I can hear shit that whole night. Just ultrasounds of Jack as a baby, like, horny, turn it up. Please. Turn me up in the headphones?

Turn me up in the headphones. No, one of the relaxation things they give you for newborns are things that sound like the inside of the womb. And it's just like this loud cacophony of like it sounds like you're inside. A water balloon being thrown at someone. Yeah, it sounds like you're – it's basically what you'd expect if you think about it. Like it sounds like there's like all these lab pipes and stuff like got whirring around you. And it's because you are like in the middle of a living reconstruction site, basically. At the same time, I don't I can't speak Mandarin and I can't I can't help but blame my mother for that. Right.

Studying it. Yeah, no, that's fair. That's totally fair. Not studying it. Yeah, no, that's fair. That's totally fair. So while we were on the subject of the Kim and Kanye surrogate, Dan brought to our attention just one of the greatest things we've found on the internet in a long time. It sounds like the Upton Sinclair of our time in terms of muckraking, like just hard-hitting investigative journalism. What's his name, Dan?

Sean Blazington. He's a YouTuber slash rapper slash truth speaker. Right. I like that. Conspiracy theorist. He does a bunch of videos. Some of them are just about video games that he likes. Some of them are about music.

But his most important work that he's doing are these exposés that he calls documentations. And he's got the hot scoop on a lot of huge scandals that really opened my eyes. And one of them is about Beyonce and Jay-Z's sham marriage and the fact that they used Solange as the surrogate for their baby. For Blue Ivy. Yeah. Yeah. Which there are a lot of very sane people who think that she used a surrogate on on with Blue Ivy. I saw the belly collapse. Yeah. There there's like a video where she like sits down and you can see the belly collapse. Just the the idea that Solange is the surrogate is just like putting all conspiracy theories like together. It is just like putting all conspiracy theories like together.

And he was saying that the whole elevator fight that was captured from that security camera was over the surrogacy. Right. So we're going to actually listen to his one of his documentations. You never, ever in your entire life saw a picture of Jay-Z tongue kissing Beyonce, gripping her. her you know it's a shame filling up on her breast or doing anything intimate if you can find a picture of jay-z tongue kissing beyonce or gripping her butt send it to me and i will mail you back five hundred dollars everybody was able to see the surveillance tape in the elevator but no one has been able to hear the audio tapes but that's where i come in because i have the secret tape right here

okay i'm gonna put this now this is crazy this is a world exclusive i'm gonna tell you right now don't say shit because this is between me and jay he found the audio he gonna say nothing hey yo laundry what you tripping for i told you i left baby blues at the babysitter motherfucker you gonna tell me who the babysitter is hi Aye, aye. I let Bleak babysit the baby. Who? Memphis Bleak. I let Bleak babysit the baby. Oh, you got that dirty motherfucker on my baby. Hold on.

Hold on. Oh, shit. Yo, hold it back. Oh, oh. I got it, J.B. Now, listen closely for this next part. Yo, this was a bad idea. We should have never let Solange be the mother.

And I should have never agreed to do this. Here you go. You dropped your shoe. Fuck you, nigga. That's enough, y'all. There you have it. Jay-Z is Solange's baby daddy. Finally.

There you have it. Hit the gavel. Court is adjourned. When you talk about never seeing them tongue kissing or being intimate, I thought he was crazy at first, but then I looked and there's not a single picture of full intercourse penetration of the two of them between yeah he's right fiance i think you just didn't look hard enough i mean there's got to be that i mean they are a married couple and all married couples put videos and photographs of that on the internet i mean that's how the wedding ends because the because everyone needs to believe that you're really married right also

jack you have a child and i don't know if you've ever had a babysitter yet. Have you used a babysitter yet? No, never. The idea that he said, you left at the babysitter's house and I don't even know who the babysitter is. How often are you leaving your child at a babysitter that no one knows? You just call it the babysitter's

house. Anyway, I'm just trying to find holes in it. Because it is pretty airtight other than that other than that that's the one thing that i'm kind of like hmm because i believe that memphis bleak was the babysitter that's just bleak for for people who aren't jay-z fans is like the shame on you rapper from like the late 90s that jay-z was like trying to make into a star that never made it but like like, it's like, he's just, I think it's like stream of consciousness,

like conspiracy theory making. Right. This contributes to nothing, but the specificity of his using a tongue kissing instead of like French kiss or anything like that to me, uh, is a Bismarck key reference. Because when he walked, he,

he went to his, this girl, he was seeing blah, blah, blah, his blah's dorm room right he opened the door and guess what i saw a fella tongue kissing my girl in her mouth and i thought that's a weird way to say that and now it has found new life in sean blazington right that doesn't do anything there's no real connection there i just think he listened to biz marquee and like i like that i like that. I mean, he was tongue kissing. I think based on how elementary his raps are, like he's definitely listened to like the – he's of the empirical, lyrical, miracle kind of MC style. But yeah, I mean Memphis Bleak, I'm still kind of loving that because I haven't heard Memphis Bleak's name in so long. I'm glad to know that he has a gig babysitting because he needs something to do.

And Jay is still taking care of him, which is nice. He still – he promised to help him out and he's giving him some babysitting money yeah um we're out of time on the tabloid tip unfortunately so i will just have to tell you to uh everybody should take a look at stephen tyler jennifer garner hallie berry and shaq's toes all their toes are really. Because that's an actual report inside there, right? What's that section called? Nasty Feet of the Stars. Wow. Yep. Written by a really anxious person.

Right. The caption on Steven Tyler's feet is, The Aerosmith and American Idol judge can paint his nails any color he wants, but there's no way to camouflage those terrible toes. So, yeah, in your fucking face, Steven Tyler. Jerk. All right. We're going to take a quick break and be right back.

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to avoid any black holes most of the time and we we're back! Right, so for the last five minutes of the show, Dan, we have a recurring segment called the Underrated Zeitgeist Influencer, and you had sort of an off-the-beaten-path one. Yeah, this is going to sound weird to be an

underrated zeitgeist influencer, but George Washington? Never heard of him. Okay, right. His teeth were made of wool. Yeah. to be an underrated zeitgeist influencer but george washington i've never heard of him okay right his teeth were made of wool yeah um but specifically this guy when george washington died um there was a hunger for stuff about him because everyone knew he was a hero he was like one of the first celebrities in america and there wasn't internet or TV or real news, obviously. And one guy just went around saying, I know George Washington. I'm his friend. I'll tell you, give me some money and I'll tell you stuff about him.

And he built almost all of the myths that we know about Washington. And like later buried in other books are a bunch of Washington's contemporaries that talk about how angry and mean and irritable and shrieky he was. But the stories that made it to the top were the fake ones about him being this like really noble, soft-spoken, gentle, powerful leader. And it's just because this guy was like, what would be a compelling – what do we want to believe about Washington? Okay, I'm going to just tell people that's what it is. And he was like faking diaries and, this is George Washington's fucking diary. Give me $5. There you go.

Now you have it. Want to do a tour of his house? Come on. I'll show you. It's like the cherry tree story was just, like, some shit he, like, came up with. Yeah. He just saw it out the window of the bar. He was trying to fill in.

Yeah, cherry tree. Fill in some fake diaries. Wait, what do you mean by shrieky? He had a really high-pitched voice. Oh, I love it. And like would raise it when he was yelling at people. I'm not crossing the Delaware in that. For me, the real joy in this is like it's influenced us because we think George Washington is this noble figure and commanding our troops in the war for independence.

And like all these people who like like we're brave and we're gonna fight i think about the truth of boston soldiers on the american side who a lot of them just like fucked off and left and washington couldn't get anyone in line and a lot of them would just get bored and the revolutionary war you'll, we had a terrible shortage of guns and ammunition. Oh, yeah, I remember that. Sad we had to melt down all our pewter. A lot of that was these soldiers would get bored and start fires with their guns to cook food on and then just like shoot their guns into the air. They're like, there's no war to fight right now. I'm so bored.

And they're just blasting their guns. And Washington wrote so many letters that were like, I can't get these fucking idiots in line. I can't get them to do anything. I hate Boston. They have a place called Mount Hortum where it's like a common thing for a red district type place at the time. And just the idea of the real Revolutionary War being a bunch of angry, deserting Bostonians firing guns into the air and hanging out at a mountain brothel. And doing like jackass type stunts. Yeah.

I'm going to start this fucking fire with my musket. Start this cigarette with my musket. That's crazy. And so Washington was just like an exasperated parent. He wasn't like this guy who went through the war like died like the story i'd always heard is that like he was basically invincible and like he he would get like shot 30 times during a battle and like the bullets he'd walk out of the battle completely unscathed with like bullet holes in his jacket uh that that's not true i think that is true i put that in my book so let's say

that part is true nice yeah dan is a president expert it's on your business card right yeah um i just love the idea though like of course like in the era where there's no way to fact check that like one fucking guy can just like turn like the the like originary myth of our founding fathers like on a tear. Right. I like him just touring around and doing that kind of thing because he'll be doing it for a while, and then Thomas Jefferson will walk up and be like, that's bullshit. I knew the guy. Oh, I had a good run in Virginia.

Let's see what I can get in Kentucky. Yeah, and I'm sure you get free beers. He's like, hey, man, if you buy me a couple rounds, I'll tell you about the real George Washington. Oh, shit. You want to hear the cherry tree one again? I've never heard that. The cherry what? And then there was a guy who, after this, I think, basically decided, okay, it's really

in America's interest for there to be like a cult around George Washington, right? Yeah. And so then he like sort of raised all these stories to the forefront. Yeah. And then Barnum had like George Washington's wet nurse or something. Really? Yeah. Claimed to have the oldest woman alive. It was like just an old woman. And he was like, yeah, she's George Washington. She breastfed George Washington. That's a thing that used to happen. and she breastfed George Washington.

That's a thing that used to happen, apparently. Now she's just waiting for death in my circus or whatever. Yeah, exactly. The oldest wet nurse. That is a wonderful, underrated Zeitgeist influencer. What's that guy's name? Do you know it? No. Cool.

Wouldn't it be great if I did? No, no, no, the president. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's his name? No, the guy who told the president What's his name? No, the guy who told the stories was Vladimir Putin Alright, well, Daniel It's been a pleasure having you on Thanks Where can people find you?

Twitter at DOB underscore INC And that's sort of the only place I want people to find me Okay, alright And yeah That's going to do it for Monday We'll be back tomorrow And that's sort of the only place I want people to find me. Okay. All right. And, yeah, that's going to do it for Monday. We'll be back tomorrow. Talk to you then. Defne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was assassinated.

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